I think it’s funny how people have such a hard time fighting the habit of pulsing the throttle trigger like they are revving a gas engine. These saws are amazing. I have both
@@PT-mj3bk thinking about it... You may be 💯 percent correct, but I'm in the "click the tongs together and then twist the tips side-to-side to (clean) the tips" club. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 If I just click them, it seems like I click them multiple times... 😉🤷♂️
I bought the M12 hatchet for pruning, for which it's excellent. The M18 hatchet was just too expensive, but was surprisingly similar in size and weight. That top handle though, looks a great bit of kit!!
I have the M12 hatchet and love it too but I swapped the 6” bar/chain for the M18 hatchet’s 8” bar/chain and it works great for me no issues. I think the M18 hatchet would do best with a 10” bar/chain! The 14” bar/chain was a little much….but it sure did look cool though lol!!
@@skyemac8 that was the first mod I saw someone do and did that first using my Ryobi 10” pole saw bar/chain. It was ok but the M12 hatchet does better with a full house chain, that and I needed my bar/chain back on my pole saw…lol! I decided to use the M18 8” setup and have liked it ever since! The M12 hatchet with 10” bar/chain is still pretty narly looking!
I'm not surprised the Hatchet did OK with the humungous bar. I've cut several dozen 13" logs with my Hackzall 2719-21 (brushless motor with 7/8" stroke) using a Diablo 12" 3 TPI carbide pruning blade - and a few that were even larger. Not something I'd recommend to amateurs! Great care is required to keep the cut clear of chips and it's only possible with a fresh blade. Also need to stop as soon as the housing gets warm and resume after things cool down. I learned the hard way this tool does not have a 100% duty cycle!
I have a hackzall and I decided to get a hatchet because the vibration on that was awful. My wrist was not happy. It’s good for other tasks. The blade bound a lot cutting branches unless dry and firm
M12 Hatchet with the longer m18 hatchet bar is a little trick and it works awesome if you want to cut slightly bigger stuff than the m12 bar allows you to.
Nice video as always 👍 I have both and the top handle is a beast. The hatchet struggles with back cuts using the top of the bar because of slow chain speed but the torque is very impressive! The hatchet is perfect for topping hedges because its so light and easy to climb with.
Nice video. just a quick question have you used the 12 ah hd battery and basically cut until the battery is dead? if so roughly how long did it last and how many cuts, I do a lot of dead fall clearing on trails in the mountains and im thinking of getting one. . also the throttle pulsing hahahaha just thought I would mention that.
Any chance of repeating the test with equal batteries? While I assume the top handle is going to be a lot quicker I can’t help but think the chain speed might have been better on the hatchet with the 8ah battery that the top handle was using.
@@MachineryNation Both are m18 in this video. Also curious to see how the hatchet would do (maybe better?) with the same 8.0 battery used with the top handle for the down up down through oak test.
The helmets are fantastic, help though if you remember to get the ear muffs too! My top handled arrived this week. I will need to get a video organised
great video mate, I just came home with the rear handled 14 inch, I went in thinking id get the top handle, felt them both and liked the rear more, but then i see you handling it like its nimble and solid, I dunno, hope i like the rear handle. I was eyeballing the hatchets too and they look great both m12 and 18 but i chose what I chose lol again you video was awesome to see what I was looking at, wish I saw it yesterday haha got a sub from me keep up the great work
What no 8in bar on the top handle test? Lol. Nice video, thanks for making it. Bought a 8in hatchet for my side by side for when i run across a down tree over the trail.
Build quality on that hatchet is better. Top handle has a lot of cheap/bad design inners. The top handle has more power but drains your battery faster while doing the same cuts. It’s worth it if you plan on cutting much bigger wood than 7dbh. If not then the hatchet is far more efficient and lighter.
The hatchet is rough slow jumps and rips limbs especially smaller limbs. Can’t change out sprocket to use smaller pitch chains like Oregon nano or stihl 1/4” picco. Much better off with top handle from any brand. Echo 2511tn is going to be much better. Lightest top handle comes with Oregon nano chain already and probably weighs the same if not lighter than hatchet. Definitely faster and smoother. Especially if you modify with stihl 1/4”
Does anyone know if you can pit a 1/4p 12” bar and chain on the hatchet? I love my Makita XCU06Z because it accepts the 12” bar and chain that fits in the Stihl 150.
We don't view this as a choice between the M18 standard chainsaw or the M18 baby chainsaw. We have a Stihl gas chainsaw that we use to cut down trees. Before they can be cut into logs the limbs have to be cut off. The Stihl is quite heavy and large making it challenging and dangerous to limb the downed tree. So we bought the M18 baby chainsaw for just the purpose of limbing. It is small and nimble but still powerful enough to cut off thick branches. It takes the most stressful part of the job and makes it safe, easy, and quiet. The M18 standard chainsaw isn't as good at limbing due to its size, it is designed for thicker wood. Now my wife does the limbing rather than me doing all the cutting.
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Anyone whoever raced a two stroke motor crosser knows to pulse the throttle whilst the bike is in the air for the same reason ( no revs no oil ) same goes for the electric chainsaw. Dur
How many have you used? Probably none... I love my Stihl. I also love my Milwaukee Hatchet for limbing, and for cutting firewood when camping. I can cut enough campfire wood for a long weekend with the Hatchet on one 6Ah battery. No noise to bother other campers either!
I think it’s funny how people have such a hard time fighting the habit of pulsing the throttle trigger like they are revving a gas engine. These saws are amazing. I have both
And this "Bloke" always, ALWAYS Revs the chainsaw T-W-I-C-E!!!
WHY?????
@@324bearsame reason you clap your tongs twice before grilling. It’s a ritual
@@PT-mj3bk thinking about it... You may be 💯 percent correct, but I'm in the "click the tongs together and then twist the tips side-to-side to (clean) the tips" club. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 If I just click them, it seems like I click them multiple times... 😉🤷♂️
If you dont it will 100% die
@@FarginIceholeful it will absolutely shut off if you don’t rev the engine.
I bought the M12 hatchet for pruning, for which it's excellent. The M18 hatchet was just too expensive, but was surprisingly similar in size and weight. That top handle though, looks a great bit of kit!!
Even the M12 is a weapon! Love them both.
I have the M12 hatchet and love it too but I swapped the 6” bar/chain for the M18 hatchet’s 8” bar/chain and it works great for me no issues. I think the M18 hatchet would do best with a 10” bar/chain! The 14” bar/chain was a little much….but it sure did look cool though lol!!
@@txvet7738the M12 with a 10” chain from the pole saw! That also!
@@skyemac8 that was the first mod I saw someone do and did that first using my Ryobi 10” pole saw bar/chain. It was ok but the M12 hatchet does better with a full house chain, that and I needed my bar/chain back on my pole saw…lol! I decided to use the M18 8” setup and have liked it ever since! The M12 hatchet with 10” bar/chain is still pretty narly looking!
I'm SOOOO MAD I bought the M12 BEFORE the M18 came out. Now a couple years later, the M18 hatchet is the same price I paid for the M12 😠
I'm not surprised the Hatchet did OK with the humungous bar. I've cut several dozen 13" logs with my Hackzall 2719-21 (brushless motor with 7/8" stroke) using a Diablo 12" 3 TPI carbide pruning blade - and a few that were even larger. Not something I'd recommend to amateurs! Great care is required to keep the cut clear of chips and it's only possible with a fresh blade. Also need to stop as soon as the housing gets warm and resume after things cool down. I learned the hard way this tool does not have a 100% duty cycle!
I have a hackzall and I decided to get a hatchet because the vibration on that was awful. My wrist was not happy. It’s good for other tasks. The blade bound a lot cutting branches unless dry and firm
I have the hatchet M18, nothing short of amazing, nuff said.
M12 Hatchet with the longer m18 hatchet bar is a little trick and it works awesome if you want to cut slightly bigger stuff than the m12 bar allows you to.
Nice video as always 👍 I have both and the top handle is a beast. The hatchet struggles with back cuts using the top of the bar because of slow chain speed but the torque is very impressive! The hatchet is perfect for topping hedges because its so light and easy to climb with.
Nice video. just a quick question have you used the 12 ah hd battery and basically cut until the battery is dead? if so roughly how long did it last and how many cuts, I do a lot of dead fall clearing on trails in the mountains and im thinking of getting one. . also the throttle pulsing hahahaha just thought I would mention that.
Hatchet with a 10" bar from the pole saw is the sweet spot
I wish you switched it for the bigger batter also... Thanks for the good video!
Any chance of repeating the test with equal batteries?
While I assume the top handle is going to be a lot quicker I can’t help but think the chain speed might have been better on the hatchet with the 8ah battery that the top handle was using.
They are not on the same battery system. One is M12 and the other M18. You can’t get a Milwaukee M12 8ah battery.
Ah my bad, I was thrown off by the video title!
Wait, the hatchet is M18 too…
@@MachineryNation Both are m18 in this video. Also curious to see how the hatchet would do (maybe better?) with the same 8.0 battery used with the top handle for the down up down through oak test.
I'm totally trying this at home
Great demonstration. Thanks
Thank you 🥳
great video. would you say the hatchet saw is a good choice for splitting smaller logs?
The helmets are fantastic, help though if you remember to get the ear muffs too! My top handled arrived this week. I will need to get a video organised
You will love it mate! Fantastic saw 👌🏽
Lol. I put a 20in bar in my 16 and a 16 on the 14. Works great
Great video, equipment performance & entertainment well balanced. 🎉 😄👍🏽
Thank you 👍🏼
Thanks, good information!!
great video mate, I just came home with the rear handled 14 inch, I went in thinking id get the top handle, felt them both and liked the rear more, but then i see you handling it like its nimble and solid, I dunno, hope i like the rear handle. I was eyeballing the hatchets too and they look great both m12 and 18 but i chose what I chose lol again you video was awesome to see what I was looking at, wish I saw it yesterday haha got a sub from me keep up the great work
That’s awesome thanks Travis 👍🏼
Any overheat issues with the top handle?
What no 8in bar on the top handle test? Lol. Nice video, thanks for making it. Bought a 8in hatchet for my side by side for when i run across a down tree over the trail.
Build quality on that hatchet is better. Top handle has a lot of cheap/bad design inners. The top handle has more power but drains your battery faster while doing the same cuts. It’s worth it if you plan on cutting much bigger wood than 7dbh. If not then the hatchet is far more efficient and lighter.
great thanks. Did you try short bar on top handle that would be fun😂😂
No I didn’t have the right sprocket to change it over unfortunately.
Never been a fan of the pruning saws, the top handles seem to work just fine for everything.
How did y’all swap bars and chains? Isn’t one .325 and the other 3/8 chain. Did y’all swap the sprockets
Yeah I swapped the sprockets, I used one that is featured in our next video 👍🏼
The hatchet is rough slow jumps and rips limbs especially smaller limbs. Can’t change out sprocket to use smaller pitch chains like Oregon nano or stihl 1/4” picco. Much better off with top handle from any brand. Echo 2511tn is going to be much better. Lightest top handle comes with Oregon nano chain already and probably weighs the same if not lighter than hatchet. Definitely faster and smoother. Especially if you modify with stihl 1/4”
Echo 2500tn for battery option is what I meant. 2511t is gas.
Does anyone know if you can pit a 1/4p 12” bar and chain on the hatchet? I love my Makita XCU06Z because it accepts the 12” bar and chain that fits in the Stihl 150.
Brother don't stress on slip up on the " blade"/ bar... keep up the videos...
The biggest difference is that the hatchet can be used single handed. Unless you are futting down big trees, get the hatchet. Amazing tool
We don't view this as a choice between the M18 standard chainsaw or the M18 baby chainsaw. We have a Stihl gas chainsaw that we use to cut down trees. Before they can be cut into logs the limbs have to be cut off. The Stihl is quite heavy and large making it challenging and dangerous to limb the downed tree. So we bought the M18 baby chainsaw for just the purpose of limbing. It is small and nimble but still powerful enough to cut off thick branches. It takes the most stressful part of the job and makes it safe, easy, and quiet. The M18 standard chainsaw isn't as good at limbing due to its size, it is designed for thicker wood. Now my wife does the limbing rather than me doing all the cutting.
excellent video
Speed was consistently about 50%
Not bad for a smaller tool with a smaller motor meant for light work.
Nice one James was that please don't try this at home Have a good weekend thanks again
Very impressive test james👌👍 , hope you give yourself a good smacking for saying blade tut tut 🤣🤣
Thanks Nev. I know right 🤦🏻♂️
That hatchet woukd b great for storm clean up. Cutting with one hand, pulling with the other, limbs. Tired of my top handle gas saw for this purpose.
helmet visors keep fraying on stihl and kox
Looks like the hatchet isn’t a Fuel version? The top handle is a Fuel version. Fuel versions give more power
The hatchet is the fuel version it says it on the side in small letters below the Milwaukee name.
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The chain speed on the hatchet is just too slow to cut with the top of the bar, it tries to kick itself off.
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Anyone whoever raced a two stroke motor crosser knows to pulse the throttle whilst the bike is in the air for the same reason ( no revs no oil ) same goes for the electric chainsaw. Dur
Don't try this at home what do you realy think people are now going to do
Now we have to go try it now😂
Of course its a Milwaukee !
Of course is Chinese garbage
you turned the hatchet into the machete :)
theres not any kickback
You rev the motor as if it were gas powered...old habits?
Yeah old habits die hard 😂
meh, just get an M18 angle grinder and a kit to mount a bar+chain of your preference, it'll outshine both of these set-ups and for less $$
im not impressed with cordless chainsaws
How many have you used? Probably none... I love my Stihl. I also love my Milwaukee Hatchet for limbing, and for cutting firewood when camping. I can cut enough campfire wood for a long weekend with the Hatchet on one 6Ah battery. No noise to bother other campers either!
@@username-mc7jw Stihl at work
@@username-mc7jwdo you find the hatchet being adequate for cutting firewood?