Thank you, husband bought one for me! 8 months pregnant and very uncomfy, but I've been watching all your videos and they're so nice and relaxing. Love your content, keep up the great work!
I see the nodularisation made peeling easier. Good. Ideas: 1. Polish one side of the titanium with a fine polishing compound to reduce micro-scratches for easier peeling. 2. Coat the opposite face with a non-conductive acid-resistive coating to keep electro-forming confined to one side of the cathode. Again, to facilitate easier peeling. Always a pleasure to watch!
On a whim, I googled "titanium bowl". Found one for less than $20. You could build a gold cell almost identical to your silver cell in construction. ...if you're interested in such things.
I have a gold cell design that works well. Though both produce high purity product, they are a little different configuration. The gold cell that I use is the best and most efficient setup.
Sir people need to take into account the labor and materials that you have to use for the final product this has been a very enjoyable and informative video thank you for sharing this with us six stars brother
You are welcome. I’ll keep it short…it’s all so goooood and It’s great to be watching from central Alberta again. Looking forward to the upcoming project(s)!!!👍👍🤟Thank you Sir!
sreetips how I love your videos, a true alchemist. So, some advice, when plating on your cathode next time wrap/coat the back and along the edges with some heavy vinyl tape this will provide a barrier to prevent unwanted plating. This is a common practice used by chrome platers when chroming industrial items. Hope this helps in the future.
I wonder if the vinyl tape's adhesive will withstand the acidity of the chloroauric solution? I tried some adhesive-backed PTFE tape for this and it seemed to remain fixed, so vinyl probably will too.
I extracted the gold from an EcoGoldex trial with electrolysis, onto a zinc cathode. Then simply dissolved the cathode in dilute sulphuric acid. The electrolysis kept the zinc from reacting.
I live close to a smelter that does electroplate refinement. They use a giant pizza paddle looking device to scrape off both sides of the electrode. Takes seconds and is done by hand. Cool video. ;)
Awesome video again. Don’t know why people criticize the prices… If it’s too expensive don’t buy it. It’s a game of supply and demand. The more he doesn’t sell the more he keeps. If you want cheap gold, go buy scrap gold in the pawn shop. For all the years I have been watching FREE entertaining videos from Sreetips I can see that’s a passion of him. The only question I have today. Is this the method that the Canadian Mint use to have 9999 pure gold? ✌🏻👍🏻🇨🇦
Beautiful results. I wonder if a gold cell using gold shot (in exactly the same setup as your silver cells) would work (using those stainless steel bowls)? 👍🏻
@@sreetips true, nickel is still too low on the reactivity series, but higher than chromium and since it makes at least 10% of 18/10 or 8% of 18/8 stainless (most common stainless used for roll formed bowls) the alloy would pit, leach into the dilute, and make the remaining metal brittle since the matrix would be disturbed. Additionally the chromium which is the larger by mass then the nickel but even lower on the reactivity series will have leeched faster than the nickel. The iron will no longer be protected and will leach as well. Not to mention the manganese or molybdenum which are, respectively, 1% and 2-3%. The molyD might not react at all but some test have shown substantial micro pitting with the pure test sample. Titanium will not react at all and does not form a molecular bond, good luck finding a bowl made of just this element, and not a plated stainless base below the microthin layer of titanium. Since it is brittle by nature only alloys are used for any metal forming processes.
I wondered this as well; @sreetips answered the same earlier regarding the stainless being attacked by chloroauric. However, a titanium (or gold-plated) bowl might work. Also, dissolved impurities might settle into the gold crystals (though wouldn't this issue be the same with the silver cell? Idk).
@@JP-kb5ng plated is too thin. Thick plated might work but there is always the danger of scratching over the lifetime usefulness of the enhanced bowl. What do the pros use? Good question, checking now... seems too much proprietary technology is involved to easily check with my resources. Sorry. Ok, let's examine the qualities of thickplate titanium, it is a pure metal not an alloy so no points of attack there for clorides, check. Mechanical scraping with non-scratching silicone coated tool would be a must. Detaching the electrowined gold for a hobbyist might be solved with a clever grid of gaffer tape over the surface to decrease the mechanical adhesion area which would be helpful in the scraping. It might last for more sessions than the initial setup and any adhesives leaching into the electrolyte might not cause problems, don't know, never done myself. Anyone else have a thought to toss in here? While rereading this post of mine I see I did not address the gold plated bowl as an answer. A different problem there since the gold will molecularly attach which might require removal of the plating to allow the harvest and a replating of the bowl. Sounds doable in large part, Lord knows I have seen industrial processes which are similar -plate the container, process the gold, deplate and repeat. Edited many times as things happened.
I’ve seen videos. I’ll post a link in the description. Here’s what I could gather: the Dore bars (large impure gold bars with silver and base metals) are refined using an unknown process (probably the miller process - the molten dore has chlorine gas bubbles through it) to get the gold to about 980 to 990 parts per thousand. This gold is cast into specially shaped anode mold that includes two little hooks one on each side of the slab. Slab is roughly 12 inches by 18 inches (30cm x 45cm) and about 1/2 inch thick (1.2cm). These slabs of impure 980 to 990 parts per thousand gold are then hung in a tank of gold chloride solution - gallons of it. In between each gold anode slab is a cathode (possibly titanium). So it has alternating anodes/cathodes hung in a giant tank of gold chloride. The hooks on the gold anodes are up out of the electrolyte and in contact with the (+) of the power source. The titanium cathodes are identical shape as the anodes and are in contact with the (-) side of the power source. The electric current is passed through the cell and the impure anodes corrode (dissolve) and the pure gold gets deposited on the titanium cathodes.
What I like about this is the gold sparkling in the sun like a beautiful dream..this reminds me of my sun and sand beach side childhood house.. priceless memories
If you apply Insulation around the edges of the cathode collector plate, the gold plating out won't "wrap around" and lock onto the plate so hard. Makes it easier to peel off.
I absolutely love this series of videos! Seeing gold crystals is fascinating to me - I know you can form crystals from many different substances, but I also know some crystals are a lot more difficult to form than others! Before watching this channel, I honestly didn't know that silver and gold crystals could be formed through electrolysis. The results also are very inspiring for possible jewelry - I was thinking maybe these crystals could be captured in glass, but I looked it up and the melting point of glass is more than 700F higher than either of these metals, so maybe a high quality resin of some sort would work - anything that would make it possible to enjoy these beautiful crystals!
@@sreetips That is really cool! I don't know if it's worth the trouble, but I think a sealed glass "ampule" with water and a gold or silver crystal in it would look really cool. I don't know if it's possible to get the air out though...
I bet those gold crystals on that cathode give the silver crystals a run for their money under a little magnification. Careful with the pieces you want to sell. I would want as many undisturbed crystals as possible. I would be like you and not really want to sell it but it is nice to offer some to your viewers because a lot of us would be interested in things you offer. It is an overall win all around in my opinion. This was a good series, Sr. I can barely wait to see your next, larger gold cell when you bring that gold back for another experiment. (/me uses a "Force suggestion" on you.) Edit: As a couple mentioned. That tooth would look amazing on a chain. Might be a little thin, though. It would look almost too good. lol
You might also try placing the encrusted cathode in the freezer overnight inside a sealed bag/container; this might embrittle the gold crystals and make for easier removal (or they might pop off on their own).
Electrowinning results in purer gold and produces essentially zero waste chemicals (discounting those from initial production of the chloroauric electrolyte). The only chemical he consumed during the electrowinning was a bit of hydrochloric acid he added to keep the solution properly hydrated.
Awesome! So it seems the anode loss was equal to the cathode gain within a gram or two, indicating there was little to no change in the quantity/mass of gold ions in solution. I'm very curious as to why your gold plating out onto the cathode looks so entirely different from my tests; I'm guessing my electrolyte was significantly under-saturated and/or my voltage was too high. Since you provided the recommended concentration and voltage, I'll have to re-test using the appropriate parameters.
That's really cool, have you considered using a graphite rod as the cathode? If you deposited gold on graphite then you could simply melt it off without potentially contaminating it will titanium and whatever metal you scraped it loose with.
Hello Mrs and Mr Sreetips. Hope both of you doing fine and enjoy life🌸🌸Here in Norway the first sommer month has been lovely. Another great clip from my 2 describer cannal. God bless you Sir🔥🙏
I wouldn't expect there to become more Gold than you originally had before starting this. You are just refining the gold to four 9's fine, is that right?
I mean are you growing gold ? Can you please explain, I also watched the silver cell videos is it the same thing except of course the electrolyte and the other stuff… thanks in advance
@@TouTou-fz1bf I can't speak for him but the gold chloride solution also contains gold. The ions of gold plate onto the titanium and more gold coming into the solution from the electrode to replace the gold which has plated. This is a fast process and is the way all gold is finalized/refined into sponge. Most metals are refined in this fashion to some extent. Any super saturated solution will plate even without added electricity, this method just takes it one step further down the road you see. Supersaturated Solutions can occur at various temperatures including those in a molten metal Crucible.
No. Three nines is industry standard for pure gold. So the fourth nine is totally unnecessary unless needed for some specific purpose such as a test standard. The only reason I did it is for the show. To demonstrate that I can, and produce a new and interesting video for my channel.
Man I really wish I had the extra funds right now for the Sharks tooth. That thing would make an awesome pendant. It's worth that much just to show off lol
I hope you have the inquartation + electrolytic batch assayed; I'm really curious how the purity compares to the inquartation + aqua regia + electrolytic gold.
There’s soft solder in the karat scrap which means lead. The only way to get it out is refine with Aqua Regia so I can add some sulfuric to get the lead out. Then I’ll melt into an anode bar and run it through the cell.
If you consider the melting-points of gold and titanium, could you not just melt it off? Or is the concern for impurities the reason for your mechanical separation? With careful heating and an appropriate mould or crucible, you could melt it right into a goldbar, no? Also - thank you for these videos. They are curiously fascinating!
@@sreetips I can tell you from experience: you are 1000% correct in your concern, except it doesn't only *weld* to the titanium, it produces a kind of nightmarish crumbly Ti-Au ore/mineral. Though Ti has a much higher melting point, it becomes extremely reactive at around 1000F and binds with gold in a very very bad way through a seeming capillary-type interaction. Ask me how I know ;(. You might be able to pop all of the gold off by briefly reversing the polarity of your cell. But frankly your scraping method seemed perfectly effective to me.
I wonder how the anode got that glitter look? Was it crystallization inside the original ingot? Or was it induced by the electrolysis - maybe by some back-deposition of the gold ions? That might not happen if you used direct current but I would not be surprised if there are some eletrochemical equilibria at play.
Are you stalking me? This the third time you popped up another video right after I woke up and got online! I'm playin but it's neat being here so soon.
the shark tooth - the hook is also gold - so when you stopped the electrolysis and removed it from solution - was the fact it was shrinking onto the stem edge the trigger there ? otherwise, why not let it go down to nothing, matching the fluid level - eg not a tooth but a straight across edge parallel with the solution level and why didn't you just cut those poured sections off and put them in your next refining effort ? It's so coll this stuff.... great video - the sunlight on the gold was a nice touch - looks a lot more sparkly to me that interior lighting...
I could have waited, and as you can see in the video, it was dissolving fast towards the end. But it was getting late and I wanted to get the video posted.
extremely pretty result, would gold disappear if you used it as the cathode, I was just thinking about the sharks tooth and considering a gold scupture made by coating say a gold star or a DNA spiral, something like that.
Ya the sharks tooth someone could Bend the piece of metal you’re fingers hold onto and form a hoop for a necklace or maybe to hang as a Christmas tree ornament. Looks cool.
It should go ok. But the electrolyte will get saturated with copper. If it gets about 60g per liter concentration then the copper could begin to co-deposit. You could run it as a parting cell. Then harvest the silver crystal and run it back through with fresh electrolyte. Sound costly? Getting pure metal is never easy or cheap.
@@sreetips I think [guessing] running through electrolyte 2x is less costly than silver nitrate cement melt to shot and remediation of the primary copper nitrate to iron and salt water. I've also got a fellow wants me to refine ag he's getting from a mine in Philippines that is 98% with a .045% gold and I'm leaning towards using direct electrolysis and then slime refine to isolate gold. This is where the difference will really count or be obvious. Detailed measurements and notes required. Preaciate ya !! "Each one teach one " and the world becomes a better place
@@sreetips Speaking of copper. I know you've said many times that copper isn't worth saving, so you always get rid of your copper waste and get new copper pieces to use for refining. I thought of you the other day when I saw a video where the guy was talking about saving copper pennies because their melt value has reached 3c each. I wonder if you think with what's going on with metals, if copper will soon reach a threshold value where you would consider refining and keeping some of it, or if it's just so much lower value than silver and gold that it will probably never be worth your time comparatively.
But if the electrolysis is a refining process, why you still have to enquart the metal then clean it with nitric acid? Can't you just melt the carat scrap and then electrolyze it? Would this work?
No. The base metals and silver in the karat gold would foul the electrolyte. The anode must be fairly high purity to begin with in order for electrolytic refining to be successful.
When you made your gold rod didn't you introduce iron into it by using a steel hammer and a rusty vice? You also mentioned "brazing" the rod to the gold bar. I'm assuming you used gold and not brass for this? This was definitely an interesting video compilation. Watching your silver cell videos made me wonder if something like that could be use for gold.
Gold has not spiked. Gold doesn’t change. What’s changed it the value of the paper dollars that gold is priced in. They’ve gone down dramatically and still have further to go. Much further. This loss of value in paper will be reflected in the price of gold (and other commodities). Gold only appears to be rising. It’s really dollars falling. Dollars can’t be used to accurately determine the value of anything, because they just keep dropping. The only way to accurately place a value is to price it in gold. For example, it takes 16.5 ounces of gold to buy the Dow. Regardless of their pricing in paper dollars (that are declining fast).
3 inch razor scraper. They are way sharper than the razor scrapers with the little inserts so watch out and never keep a blade in it without switching the blunt end out if you are not using it. WARNING those 3 in blades are as sharp as archery broad head inserts. I use it for scraping the red paint off of I beams for lead testing.
Sreetips, @ 0:46 🤩Scraping that sugar daddy, gummy yummy gold off that titanium plate is THE most satisfying thing I've seen on this channel yet! GJ!! 💯 OMG had to add this, Sreetips make a sculpture of your grill with the gold!
Sree, I have an idea I want to run by you and see what you think. First I need to thank you. You have single handily educated me and in doing so Open the door for me to have another career opportunity. I am now refining medals on a regular basis and I owe it all to you thank you. Now I believe I'm not sure that it would be possible to refine gold filled electrolytically. The gold filled seems to be the only thing I can consistently make a profit on because everyone once such high prices for karat gold. But as you know refining gold filled can be very messy and I'm almost positive no matter how many times I washed her clean I am I'm sure I'm losing a little bit of gold throughout the process. Do you think it's possible to refine gold fill electrolytically by just removing the brass base metal leaving the gold. Or vice versa can we just electrolytically refine the gold from the base metal so we don't have to have a big old beaker full of zinc and copper wash using nitric acid as the refining process. I was going to try to attempt some different experiments this week using just a pure zinc bar or just a pure copper bar as the anode and see what happens. Do you have any suggestions or ideas you can bounce back any? Do you have an email I can directly contact you at so I can ask or talk to you without going through the comment section? Are you interested in the future collaborating and working on projects together I know we don't know each other yet but and to me it's kind of like asking Michael Jordan to play basketball game but if you would be interested I would absolutely love that. I was going to start filming some videos myself but I don't want to step on your toes or anyone else's toes it's already in this particular market. I think I was going to try to find a niche bite talking finance specifically precious metals during the process of refining for some uniqueness. I don't know just ideas currently I'm buying upwards a $10,000 a week off eBay refining it processing it and then sending it over to JC after refined. eBay can be difficult to find material consistently for a decent price. I am now to the point where I have enough money to recirculate material consistently. Any suggestions on better places to find material and make money off of it? You can answer some you can answer none regardless I'm just grateful that you're doing what you're doing can't tell you how captivated and fascinated I am with this subject of refining. At first I was having a difficult time with the waste byproducts. I've gotten to the point where I can actually make fertilizer out of the waist nitrate. Make an ammonium nitrate salt that ultimately ends up in my garden in the backyard. I recapture the fumes boiled off during refining that runs through a water sodium bicarbonate solution to degass the nitrogen dioxide. That's still in the infancy stage but I'm dialing it in. Thank you for your time and all that you do Ryan
Thank you, husband bought one for me! 8 months pregnant and very uncomfy, but I've been watching all your videos and they're so nice and relaxing. Love your content, keep up the great work!
Excellent, congratulations and thank you.
The sharks tooth is a badass little accidental sculpture. It would make a cool pendant.
It would
It looks like a golden mushroom.
I agree! I’d bet that most layman would think it’s actually a golden shark tooth, as opposed to the scraps of a master alchemist 🤔
@@TerribleShmeltingAccident they may believe it to be a purpose made sculpture. I wouldn't tell them any different.
No doubt. Happy accident
I see the nodularisation made peeling easier. Good.
Ideas:
1. Polish one side of the titanium with a fine polishing compound to reduce micro-scratches for easier peeling.
2. Coat the opposite face with a non-conductive acid-resistive coating to keep electro-forming confined to one side of the cathode. Again, to facilitate easier peeling.
Always a pleasure to watch!
or just polish both sides
On a whim, I googled "titanium bowl". Found one for less than $20.
You could build a gold cell almost identical to your silver cell in construction.
...if you're interested in such things.
I have a gold cell design that works well. Though both produce high purity product, they are a little different configuration. The gold cell that I use is the best and most efficient setup.
@@sreetips Groovy. See you next video, Chief.
Sir people need to take into account the labor and materials that you have to use for the final product this has been a very enjoyable and informative video thank you for sharing this with us six stars brother
That was incredible!
That gold crystal formation must look so cool under magnification!
You are welcome. I’ll keep it short…it’s all so goooood and It’s great to be watching from central Alberta again. Looking forward to the upcoming project(s)!!!👍👍🤟Thank you Sir!
Time to see how this bar looks. Thanks SREETIPS. Love watching Chief at work not letting it whip him. 👍❤️🤙
sreetips how I love your videos, a true alchemist. So, some advice, when plating on your cathode next time wrap/coat the back and along the edges with some heavy vinyl tape this will provide a barrier to prevent unwanted plating. This is a common practice used by chrome platers when chroming industrial items. Hope this helps in the future.
Great suggestion
I wonder if the vinyl tape's adhesive will withstand the acidity of the chloroauric solution? I tried some adhesive-backed PTFE tape for this and it seemed to remain fixed, so vinyl probably will too.
Thanks for your videos Sreetips, they're a breath of fresh air in these dire times.
Thank you
I extracted the gold from an EcoGoldex trial with electrolysis, onto a zinc cathode. Then simply dissolved the cathode in dilute sulphuric acid. The electrolysis kept the zinc from reacting.
Very cool. That sharks tooth looks awesome. It would make a rather tasteless yet cool pendant. Looking forward to the experiment.
Haha one person's "tasteless" is another's "amazing"!
I live close to a smelter that does electroplate refinement. They use a giant pizza paddle looking device to scrape off both sides of the electrode. Takes seconds and is done by hand. Cool video. ;)
Awesome video again. Don’t know why people criticize the prices… If it’s too expensive don’t buy it. It’s a game of supply and demand. The more he doesn’t sell the more he keeps. If you want cheap gold, go buy scrap gold in the pawn shop. For all the years I have been watching FREE entertaining videos from Sreetips I can see that’s a passion of him. The only question I have today. Is this the method that the Canadian Mint use to have 9999 pure gold? ✌🏻👍🏻🇨🇦
Yes, exactly!
Yes it is. I could make five nines gold by running it back through the cell a second time.
Incredible work, and such a fascinating product you've created. Thank you, sir!
Beautiful results. I wonder if a gold cell using gold shot (in exactly the same setup as your silver cells) would work (using those stainless steel bowls)? 👍🏻
I don’t think so. The gold chloride electrolyte would probably react with the stainless.
@@sreetips true, nickel is still too low on the reactivity series, but higher than chromium and since it makes at least 10% of 18/10 or 8% of 18/8 stainless (most common stainless used for roll formed bowls) the alloy would pit, leach into the dilute, and make the remaining metal brittle since the matrix would be disturbed. Additionally the chromium which is the larger by mass then the nickel but even lower on the reactivity series will have leeched faster than the nickel. The iron will no longer be protected and will leach as well. Not to mention the manganese or molybdenum which are, respectively, 1% and 2-3%. The molyD might not react at all but some test have shown substantial micro pitting with the pure test sample. Titanium will not react at all and does not form a molecular bond, good luck finding a bowl made of just this element, and not a plated stainless base below the microthin layer of titanium. Since it is brittle by nature only alloys are used for any metal forming processes.
I wondered this as well; @sreetips answered the same earlier regarding the stainless being attacked by chloroauric. However, a titanium (or gold-plated) bowl might work. Also, dissolved impurities might settle into the gold crystals (though wouldn't this issue be the same with the silver cell? Idk).
@@JP-kb5ng plated is too thin. Thick plated might work but there is always the danger of scratching over the lifetime usefulness of the enhanced bowl. What do the pros use? Good question, checking now... seems too much proprietary technology is involved to easily check with my resources. Sorry.
Ok, let's examine the qualities of thickplate titanium, it is a pure metal not an alloy so no points of attack there for clorides, check. Mechanical scraping with non-scratching silicone coated tool would be a must. Detaching the electrowined gold for a hobbyist might be solved with a clever grid of gaffer tape over the surface to decrease the mechanical adhesion area which would be helpful in the scraping. It might last for more sessions than the initial setup and any adhesives leaching into the electrolyte might not cause problems, don't know, never done myself. Anyone else have a thought to toss in here?
While rereading this post of mine I see I did not address the gold plated bowl as an answer. A different problem there since the gold will molecularly attach which might require removal of the plating to allow the harvest and a replating of the bowl. Sounds doable in large part, Lord knows I have seen industrial processes which are similar -plate the container, process the gold, deplate and repeat.
Edited many times as things happened.
I’ve seen videos. I’ll post a link in the description. Here’s what I could gather: the Dore bars (large impure gold bars with silver and base metals) are refined using an unknown process (probably the miller process - the molten dore has chlorine gas bubbles through it) to get the gold to about 980 to 990 parts per thousand. This gold is cast into specially shaped anode mold that includes two little hooks one on each side of the slab. Slab is roughly 12 inches by 18 inches (30cm x 45cm) and about 1/2 inch thick (1.2cm). These slabs of impure 980 to 990 parts per thousand gold are then hung in a tank of gold chloride solution - gallons of it. In between each gold anode slab is a cathode (possibly titanium). So it has alternating anodes/cathodes hung in a giant tank of gold chloride. The hooks on the gold anodes are up out of the electrolyte and in contact with the (+) of the power source. The titanium cathodes are identical shape as the anodes and are in contact with the (-) side of the power source. The electric current is passed through the cell and the impure anodes corrode (dissolve) and the pure gold gets deposited on the titanium cathodes.
What I like about this is the gold sparkling in the sun like a beautiful dream..this reminds me of my sun and sand beach side childhood house.. priceless memories
Thank you for sharing your wonderful experience.
These videos make my day usually.
Awesome video nice gold thanks for sharing sreetips
Nice to see the sharks tooth in the Sun light Appsolutly Stuning!!!; )
Great colours outside! 😊
That's awesome sreetips, congrats on that nice looking gold
Interesting result! A mirror polish on your titanium might make it easier to get off? It would make really cool jewelry if it wasn't so fragile.
If you apply Insulation around the edges of the cathode collector plate, the gold plating out won't "wrap around" and lock onto the plate so hard. Makes it easier to peel off.
that's a nice gold large shark tooth, who knew chemistry makes art?
Gooooood evening from central Florida! Hope everyone has a great night!
Goooood evening!
I absolutely love this series of videos! Seeing gold crystals is fascinating to me - I know you can form crystals from many different substances, but I also know some crystals are a lot more difficult to form than others! Before watching this channel, I honestly didn't know that silver and gold crystals could be formed through electrolysis. The results also are very inspiring for possible jewelry - I was thinking maybe these crystals could be captured in glass, but I looked it up and the melting point of glass is more than 700F higher than either of these metals, so maybe a high quality resin of some sort would work - anything that would make it possible to enjoy these beautiful crystals!
I’ve got some pure silver crystals in distilled water that are breath taking.
@@sreetips That is really cool! I don't know if it's worth the trouble, but I think a sealed glass "ampule" with water and a gold or silver crystal in it would look really cool. I don't know if it's possible to get the air out though...
Very nice very nice, excellent work as always Sreetips
I bet those gold crystals on that cathode give the silver crystals a run for their money under a little magnification. Careful with the pieces you want to sell. I would want as many undisturbed crystals as possible.
I would be like you and not really want to sell it but it is nice to offer some to your viewers because a lot of us would be interested in things you offer. It is an overall win all around in my opinion.
This was a good series, Sr. I can barely wait to see your next, larger gold cell when you bring that gold back for another experiment. (/me uses a "Force suggestion" on you.)
Edit: As a couple mentioned. That tooth would look amazing on a chain. Might be a little thin, though. It would look almost too good. lol
Great preview of the next experiment with the Electrolytic cell at the end !
You might also try placing the encrusted cathode in the freezer overnight inside a sealed bag/container; this might embrittle the gold crystals and make for easier removal (or they might pop off on their own).
Which method is more effective in terms of gold purity, and which method is more cost efficient, chemical or electrolytic?
I’d say Aqua Regia and SMB can do it to three nines quicker and less fuss
Electrowinning results in purer gold and produces essentially zero waste chemicals (discounting those from initial production of the chloroauric electrolyte). The only chemical he consumed during the electrowinning was a bit of hydrochloric acid he added to keep the solution properly hydrated.
Great series! Been awhile since you’ve done any ewaste refining, hope to see some in the near future!
How "dirty" can the anode-bar be for this to work?
The book says 98% or 980 parts per thousand. Any dirtier and the electrolyte could become fouled.
@@sreetips You can go a little lower if there are sufficient PGMs in it.
Awesome!
So it seems the anode loss was equal to the cathode gain within a gram or two, indicating there was little to no change in the quantity/mass of gold ions in solution.
I'm very curious as to why your gold plating out onto the cathode looks so entirely different from my tests; I'm guessing my electrolyte was significantly under-saturated and/or my voltage was too high. Since you provided the recommended concentration and voltage, I'll have to re-test using the appropriate parameters.
That's really cool, have you considered using a graphite rod as the cathode? If you deposited gold on graphite then you could simply melt it off without potentially contaminating it will titanium and whatever metal you scraped it loose with.
Hello Mrs and Mr Sreetips.
Hope both of you doing fine and enjoy life🌸🌸Here in Norway the first sommer month has been lovely. Another great clip from my 2 describer cannal. God bless you Sir🔥🙏
I wouldn't expect there to become more Gold than you originally had before starting this. You are just refining the gold to four 9's fine, is that right?
Correct.
The shark tooth is really cool looking. I can imagine a shark expert wearing it around their neck 😂
Where does the extra Gold come from?!
I mean are you growing gold ? Can you please explain, I also watched the silver cell videos is it the same thing except of course the electrolyte and the other stuff… thanks in advance
@@TouTou-fz1bf I can't speak for him but the gold chloride solution also contains gold. The ions of gold plate onto the titanium and more gold coming into the solution from the electrode to replace the gold which has plated. This is a fast process and is the way all gold is finalized/refined into sponge. Most metals are refined in this fashion to some extent.
Any super saturated solution will plate even without added electricity, this method just takes it one step further down the road you see. Supersaturated Solutions can occur at various temperatures including those in a molten metal Crucible.
No new gold is being created out of thin air.
The gold from the anode dissolves and travels through the electrolyte and deposits (grows) on the titanium cathode.
I would like to see the inquart through the cell experiment! Thank you sreetips
Looking forward to the experiment with using the cell instead of aqua regia. That'll give the answer to my question from the last video.
If it was already pure gold dose the ion process make it even more valuable?
No. Three nines is industry standard for pure gold. So the fourth nine is totally unnecessary unless needed for some specific purpose such as a test standard. The only reason I did it is for the show. To demonstrate that I can, and produce a new and interesting video for my channel.
I watch because it's interesting, I wouldn't buy from you but I'm not gonna shame anyone who does.
Man I really wish I had the extra funds right now for the Sharks tooth. That thing would make an awesome pendant. It's worth that much just to show off lol
Love the videos! Keep on keeping on
Looking forward to the next experiment!
I hope you have the inquartation + electrolytic batch assayed; I'm really curious how the purity compares to the inquartation + aqua regia + electrolytic gold.
There’s soft solder in the karat scrap which means lead. The only way to get it out is refine with Aqua Regia so I can add some sulfuric to get the lead out. Then I’ll melt into an anode bar and run it through the cell.
That’s what I’m thinking and if I back it up ,it 9:53 just a jump to the left and then re-start with micro gold. Thanks again….
If you consider the melting-points of gold and titanium, could you not just melt it off? Or is the concern for impurities the reason for your mechanical separation?
With careful heating and an appropriate mould or crucible, you could melt it right into a goldbar, no?
Also - thank you for these videos. They are curiously fascinating!
I’d be concerned about the gold welding to the titanium.
@@sreetips I can tell you from experience: you are 1000% correct in your concern, except it doesn't only *weld* to the titanium, it produces a kind of nightmarish crumbly Ti-Au ore/mineral.
Though Ti has a much higher melting point, it becomes extremely reactive at around 1000F and binds with gold in a very very bad way through a seeming capillary-type interaction.
Ask me how I know ;(.
You might be able to pop all of the gold off by briefly reversing the polarity of your cell. But frankly your scraping method seemed perfectly effective to me.
There’s no substitute for experience.
I wonder how the anode got that glitter look? Was it crystallization inside the original ingot? Or was it induced by the electrolysis - maybe by some back-deposition of the gold ions? That might not happen if you used direct current but I would not be surprised if there are some eletrochemical equilibria at play.
He used DC, a requirement for anything electrolytic.
You should get a press and some forms to make bars or coins. Pretty soon you would have to buy an old bank to store your gold
when i'm in a bad mood i just make a cup of tea and click on a sreetips video to watch him do cool stuff with gold for a while :)
Are you stalking me?
This the third time you popped up another video right after I woke up and got online!
I'm playin but it's neat being here so soon.
the shark tooth - the hook is also gold - so when you stopped the electrolysis and removed it from solution - was the fact it was shrinking onto the stem edge the trigger there ? otherwise, why not let it go down to nothing, matching the fluid level - eg not a tooth but a straight across edge parallel with the solution level and why didn't you just cut those poured sections off and put them in your next refining effort ? It's so coll this stuff.... great video - the sunlight on the gold was a nice touch - looks a lot more sparkly to me that interior lighting...
I could have waited, and as you can see in the video, it was dissolving fast towards the end. But it was getting late and I wanted to get the video posted.
@@sreetips Ah - simple enough explanation. :) Thanks Chief.
Lovely gold sir 👍💯💥
It would be neat to see you make electrolyte with the .9999 crystal and refine some more gold. With that in a cell.
extremely pretty result, would gold disappear if you used it as the cathode, I was just thinking about the sharks tooth and considering a gold scupture made by coating say a gold star or a DNA spiral, something like that.
I used a pure gold cathode, rolled very thin, the first time I did this
@@sreetips ah cool, I see a possible future (expensive) project ...thankyou
That video is already posted.
meh no squawking indeed, if anything all the processing work and commentary on camera has added value.
paper dollars are good for burning. But barely...
At least you can use them to start a fire and keep warm.
Ya the sharks tooth someone could Bend the piece of metal you’re fingers hold onto and form a hoop for a necklace or maybe to hang as a Christmas tree ornament. Looks cool.
I ended up making a shark tooth necklace out of it - video posted.
Great work I love it ❤
Mr. Sreetips. What grade of sulfuric acid do you use to prec the lead out during aqua regia? Thanks
93%
The gold looks good enough to eat!
Holy golden magelodon tooth batman!
My next run w silver cell I will experiment with using sterling directly in the anode side instead of copper cement shot
It should go ok. But the electrolyte will get saturated with copper. If it gets about 60g per liter concentration then the copper could begin to co-deposit. You could run it as a parting cell. Then harvest the silver crystal and run it back through with fresh electrolyte. Sound costly? Getting pure metal is never easy or cheap.
@@sreetips I think [guessing] running through electrolyte 2x is less costly than silver nitrate cement melt to shot and remediation of the primary copper nitrate to iron and salt water.
I've also got a fellow wants me to refine ag he's getting from a mine in Philippines that is 98% with a .045% gold and I'm leaning towards using direct electrolysis and then slime refine to isolate gold. This is where the difference will really count or be obvious. Detailed measurements and notes required.
Preaciate ya !!
"Each one teach one " and the world becomes a better place
98% is about what I run and I can get two runs out of the electrolyte. But I add some more silver the second run. Good luck with that.
@@sreetips Speaking of copper. I know you've said many times that copper isn't worth saving, so you always get rid of your copper waste and get new copper pieces to use for refining. I thought of you the other day when I saw a video where the guy was talking about saving copper pennies because their melt value has reached 3c each. I wonder if you think with what's going on with metals, if copper will soon reach a threshold value where you would consider refining and keeping some of it, or if it's just so much lower value than silver and gold that it will probably never be worth your time comparatively.
Can I use stainless steel for the cathode I'm collecting gold out of arsenic
I don’t know. I’ve never tried that.
.9999 fine, whew! Thatcs quite some work mr tips 🤩
Do you think an ultrasonic cleaner could get the gold off the cathode easier?
Probably not
But if the electrolysis is a refining process, why you still have to enquart the metal then clean it with nitric acid? Can't you just melt the carat scrap and then electrolyze it? Would this work?
No. The base metals and silver in the karat gold would foul the electrolyte. The anode must be fairly high purity to begin with in order for electrolytic refining to be successful.
You should turn the sharks tooth into a necklace !
@@riverfrance5676 its value might be priceless to someone wishing to study but the cost is only $140 per gram,
You know he is going to. I would _never_ sell that thing.
@@ut000bs it has been sold...
@@CothranMike Ugh! I didn't even look to see if he actually did put it up. I reckon he made the proper business decision but that tooth…
Have to say that looks fantastic great job 👏👏👏👏👍🇺🇸be safe everyone
Is grafite an option for the. Cathode
I’ve not tried it, I don’t know.
Tis an expensive experiment. I've got to see the shining you where talking about. Thanks again for your hard work it is appreciated
You sold it ..!! good for you...LIKE P.T. BARNUM said..."theirs a sucker Born every minute.." LOL
When you made your gold rod didn't you introduce iron into it by using a steel hammer and a rusty vice? You also mentioned "brazing" the rod to the gold bar. I'm assuming you used gold and not brass for this? This was definitely an interesting video compilation. Watching your silver cell videos made me wonder if something like that could be use for gold.
Yes, there’s probably particles of iron oxide in the stem.
So the end product I'm guessing is ~99.9ish, correct?
What was the purity of the anode prior to this process?
Anode was probably close to three nines, may 995 parts per thousand - about the same as treasury bar.
since titanium has such a high melting point would it be easier to just melt the gold off?
No, the gold might weld to it
How many amps are you running through it
1.5 constant voltage. The amps varied from 5 to 11 amps.
could you melt the gold directly off the titanium ??
No
Good work team
First 👍's up sreetips thank you for sharing 🤗
Aww i thought you were going to melt it down a make a pure gold bar
I might still make a bar out of some of it.
Love your content. Speculation said gold wouldn't hit $5k till 2030. I'm curious where it'll be by the end of thos year after this last spike.
It’s not speculation. It’s a mathematical certainty. But much sooner.
Gold has not spiked. Gold doesn’t change. What’s changed it the value of the paper dollars that gold is priced in. They’ve gone down dramatically and still have further to go. Much further. This loss of value in paper will be reflected in the price of gold (and other commodities). Gold only appears to be rising. It’s really dollars falling. Dollars can’t be used to accurately determine the value of anything, because they just keep dropping. The only way to accurately place a value is to price it in gold. For example, it takes 16.5 ounces of gold to buy the Dow. Regardless of their pricing in paper dollars (that are declining fast).
My God, its full of stars.
Like he said, you dont want to pay, then dont buy. I have paid $10 per .10 of a gram. Definitely not a deal but i wanted it
"Chonks" - sreetips 3:30
3 inch razor scraper. They are way sharper than the razor scrapers with the little inserts so watch out and never keep a blade in it without switching the blunt end out if you are not using it. WARNING those 3 in blades are as sharp as archery broad head inserts. I use it for scraping the red paint off of I beams for lead testing.
Senior! Going to do anything special for the 300k subs?
I don’t know, maybe.
Hold on?? The gold isn't worth amican dollars?did I hear that right?
No, it’s much too valuable to trade gold for paper dollars.
But now its contaminated by the titanium. Wasnt it more pure before with just chemicals
Titanium is negligible - parts per million only. Not enough to report in an assay.
Use a silver ladle. It would make geodes of precious metals.
Cool stuff.
I would have bought that shark tooth just the way it is and make it a pendant.
Good experiment
As always, amazing
Sreetips, @ 0:46 🤩Scraping that sugar daddy, gummy yummy gold off that titanium plate is THE most satisfying thing I've seen on this channel yet! GJ!! 💯 OMG had to add this, Sreetips make a sculpture of your grill with the gold!
How much would you charge me for 7 to 8 grams of pure gold?? I'm trying to make a 24k gold chain for myself
Sorry, all I have for sale is on my eBay site.
Sree, I have an idea I want to run by you and see what you think. First I need to thank you. You have single handily educated me and in doing so Open the door for me to have another career opportunity. I am now refining medals on a regular basis and I owe it all to you thank you. Now I believe I'm not sure that it would be possible to refine gold filled electrolytically. The gold filled seems to be the only thing I can consistently make a profit on because everyone once such high prices for karat gold. But as you know refining gold filled can be very messy and I'm almost positive no matter how many times I washed her clean I am I'm sure I'm losing a little bit of gold throughout the process. Do you think it's possible to refine gold fill electrolytically by just removing the brass base metal leaving the gold. Or vice versa can we just electrolytically refine the gold from the base metal so we don't have to have a big old beaker full of zinc and copper wash using nitric acid as the refining process. I was going to try to attempt some different experiments this week using just a pure zinc bar or just a pure copper bar as the anode and see what happens. Do you have any suggestions or ideas you can bounce back any? Do you have an email I can directly contact you at so I can ask or talk to you without going through the comment section? Are you interested in the future collaborating and working on projects together I know we don't know each other yet but and to me it's kind of like asking Michael Jordan to play basketball game but if you would be interested I would absolutely love that. I was going to start filming some videos myself but I don't want to step on your toes or anyone else's toes it's already in this particular market. I think I was going to try to find a niche bite talking finance specifically precious metals during the process of refining for some uniqueness. I don't know just ideas currently I'm buying upwards a $10,000 a week off eBay refining it processing it and then sending it over to JC after refined. eBay can be difficult to find material consistently for a decent price. I am now to the point where I have enough money to recirculate material consistently. Any suggestions on better places to find material and make money off of it? You can answer some you can answer none regardless I'm just grateful that you're doing what you're doing can't tell you how captivated and fascinated I am with this subject of refining. At first I was having a difficult time with the waste byproducts. I've gotten to the point where I can actually make fertilizer out of the waist nitrate. Make an ammonium nitrate salt that ultimately ends up in my garden in the backyard. I recapture the fumes boiled off during refining that runs through a water sodium bicarbonate solution to degass the nitrogen dioxide. That's still in the infancy stage but I'm dialing it in. Thank you for your time and all that you do
Ryan
In order for electrolytic refining to be successful the anode material must be fairly high purity to begin with.
Coat the edges with some plastic, it will strip off better next time.
Squawk! Just kidding. 😂
Was kostet das Gramm in $ ?
My ask price is one hundred forty U.S. dollars (because dollars are declining).
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