I know this is an older video but I would say high 600 fps is pretty dam good for this gun without getting into higher quality pellets. It's a great back yard shooter. Good video.
I'd of tried it with 15 - 20 pumps. 23 - 25 pumps it will start not fireing because the hammer isn't heavy enough to pop the valve. Swinging the gun downward when pulling the trigger will add to the hammer force and discharge it. I used 15 all the time. BUT! It was with one from the 80s that was still all metal construction. Great vid. Testing was a big part in airgunning for me. A meter would of been the bomb. I used a 10 pound block of modeling clay. Penetration varied widely with temp. 60s an inch. 80s 2 inches. Normally the clay was swollen with pellets from blasting bottle caps. Cleaning it out was a minor pain by slicing it like thin bread and squeeze out the lumps. I tested a hundred different pellets with different guns to find their favorite. The Beeman gold hollowpoints (Silver Bear) was one of the most accurate. Surpassed only by Daisys Olympic match grade Avanti. They came packaged seperately like a box of chocolates. 10 shots in one hole was not uncommon.
Thank you! Good stuff! Btw, I have the same chrono. There is a way to switch to fps, at least on mine that was purchased recently. Check your manual, and I believe it's just a matter of holding down one of the control buttons for a couple of seconds. Best wishes!
880 seems to perform well with Gamo Lethal / 5.5gr., and the less expensive Crosman Destroyer and Hollow Point. The worst pellet I’ve found for 880 is H&N Crow Magnum / 8gr., maybe because they are sold unpolished. Good information - thanks! ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐
Very well produced video. Airguns are definitely my thing and I'm always glad to discover another YT channel that spotlights them. The 880 is a bb/pellet gun and the 800fps is for bbs, I'm pretty sure, so you might try them. I also found recently that Pyramyd Air is listing the velocity as 750 for bbs and 715 for pellets. I have seen the 800fps figure that you're using on a number of online suppliers sites, but the are probably just stating what's on the box. Pyramyd is pretty big on customer satisfaction and I think they temper the maker's claims sometimes after doing their own testing. I do lots of testing on lots of guns just for my own enjoyment ( don't really want to do the whole YT publishing gig, so I'm very grateful for you guys that do ) but I don't think I have ever seen those ultralight pellets, so this is good info. Not a big fan of any Gamo pellets that I can think of, but I try to have some of everything I hear about, just for my testing and because you never know when you might find a sleeper that excels in one of your guns. Also never seen that chrony. What's it called?
I don’t think there’s a brand name, it’s just a generic chrony off Wish. As for the ultralight pellets, I think Gamo discontinued them and I can sort of see why; almost any break barrel 177 would make those go supersonic which is not a desirable trait to most airgunners
Alloy pellets go above 800 fps. Lead typically does 710 average. Not sure why his is performing so badly. I assume his China measuring device is trash. Daisy is VERY consistent at sea level at pushing mid 7 grain pellets at 710 to 716 fps.
I just bought one of these for less than $70 I suppose that's a good price. I bought it strictly for shooting BBs in my backyard and now I know three pumps will be good enough for plinking what I'm shooting at and every now and then a fourth pump if I put something out further. Thanks for the video :-)
just watched and noted numbers between 760 and 880. 2 pumps an 880 is worth 3 pumps on the 760, both pumped equal after that, the 880 is consistently about 100 fps faster. with either, there isn't much sense going past 8-9 pumps. 9 pumps from a 760 is slightly slower than 6 pumps from an 880 8 pumps on 760 about equal to 5 on the 880, 7 vs 4 are close like that too. the 880 is just a much better choice for that same kind of money spent. expect 600-650 fps with 7-8-9 pumps with 7.5 grain pellets.
Very interesting, but not a surprise. I've owned a few 880's (and an 881) since the early '70's and still own my first 880 that I got for Christmas in '72. Back in those days, they advertised the FPS using BB's and claimed 650fps, and all 880's had a smooth bore barrel, with the 881 coming out a year later in '73 I think, with a rifled barrel (I had an 881 in the early '80's). At that point, they were saying 710fps with BB's and 685fps with pellets.
The manufacturers employ all sorts of manipulations to get the projectile velocities they advertise. In this case, I believe the main manipulation is measuring the velocity of metal BBs instead of pellets. Since this particular gun has shallower rifling than a dedicated pellet gun, it lends itself more to high speeds with BB's. Other manipulations include cleaning and oiling of the barrel itself (which you should be doing yourself anyway) and possibly oiling of the ammunition itself. I myself have performed these manipulations, and have gotten metal BB's to fly at speeds in the 740 to 760 FPS range. I've only gotten one to go past 800 by pumping more than 10 times, which is not recommended because it can potentially damage the underlever and/or spring.
You should test Crosman models like this, they are notorious for overstating by 20-30%, the Legacy 1000 barely can get above 750 with the lightest alloy pellets.
That's the marketing department haha they always ease those numbers to a favorable point. I would question, your chrony could it be a little off? You may want to use a better machine just to know.
With standard 7.4 grain lead pellets the 880 should produce 685-690 FPS when the gun is fairly new. I’ve tested mine many times over the years. Replacing the piston o-ring once a year helps to maintain that velocity
Owned one of these as a kid. Shot many small critters with it including birds, crawdads, frogs, and even a rabbit. I used various numbers of pumps, but noticed 4 seemed like a minimum to get the job done. Thanks for the info.
In england we,r limited to 12ft lb for rifles and 6ft lb for pistols so we don’t need chrono,s, we just fire a pellet from a slingshot and gauge it, or for a pistol we just throw the pellet! 🤣🤣🤣 this government needs removed!
They use chrono all the time and you know that some people own Firearn Licenses and than can own air rifles that have full power also real rifles but still not stronger air pistols than 6foot pound for that you need a special certificate that no normal person can get, with this kind of certification you can almost own everything.
@@WaschyNumber1 yeah it would be a nightmare trying to get a certificate here at the minute, think the government are getting worried about a revolution coz lots of gun owners seem to be getting hassle off the police. Trying to remove people’s guns
@@paulmc6940 the is also a lead ban going on, that's totally ridiculous, they try with everything they can to destroy the shooting community and many thousands of jobs also, that are behind the industry.
@@WaschyNumber1 yeah for sure, lots have had there licence sent out with guns missing from it which could get you in big trouble if you didn’t notice it, then saying just write it on yourself. It stinks coz an illegal firearm here is 5yr in prison.
What happens if you pump it 15-20 times along with is it bad for the gun? I pumped mine once at 15, although I ain't sure if the velocity and energy of the projectile would increase or decrease.
@@jamespeterson6198 I've been doing it more often now. I had an Another Poweline 880 beforehand which I scrapped for parts. So If anything goes wrong I'm ready.
Yeah, it's pretty simplistic and does what you'd expect a chrony to do and nothing more, nothing less. Since the instructions were in Chinese I wasn't able to read them, but it's essentially plug, charge, and play.
@@casualairgunner7417 hey try putting some 3in1 oil in and on the piston pump then try it again. I also had this gun in early 2000 I took mine apart and put glue around the part that holds air so it didn't leak I could pump it 15 to 20 times it sounded like a 22 going off. I think just putting out in it will help get fps up
You put in about 15 pumps with a .177 cal bb it can make that promised 300 yards (a whole lot less accurate of a shot but its def one of my favorites lol
someone in the GTA forums was recommending a $30 chinese chrony off eBay. I'm thinking about getting one because I want to test my 880 with and without the 880LDCs that I sell. Also did some trigger mods and curious to see if they accidentally impacted power since the daisy 880 trigger spring is also the hammer spring. Has yours been consistent? Would be cool to compare it head to head with a mainstream chrony.
So far the chrony has been pretty consistent, yeah. The main drawback I can see to this chrony is the small size of the “shootable” zone. It makes it only possible to get muzzle velocities because anything further than point blank would likely result in the destruction of the chrony which has happened before.
Translating it into feet per second must be difficult because it changes everyday I think the conversion rates change everyday I know currency does I don't know if metric is the same
UK and some other country's stick too to the fps and stones for weight and other bullshit measurements, they grow never up, they want be in the stone age stuck, why ever 🤔 it makes no sense.
@@progamerbigdaddy4478I followed the manual step by step on the fifth shot I loaded in another one and did as the manual asked.thing didn’t fire on four pumps
I really appreciate this data. I want to use my 880 to teach deer to stay out of my garden, but I don't want to break the skin. I have sighted in at 30 yards using three pumps. Does anyone out there have advice for me?
I use 8 pumps for shooting rats at night with my 880. It shoots reliably best with RWS Basic wad cutter pellets. I have also taken wild Rodgers to 15 yards with the same pellet and 8 pumps. The pellet is still climbing at that distance, so U hold about an inch low. Head shots, and the 880 with these pellets dies the job.
if you're a good shot, clean head shot at 5-6 pumps will drop them 15-20 yards. practice at targets a bunch at 17 yards, stick with the same pellets, try 5-6-7-8 pumps.. whatever the pellet likes being shot from an 880 to consistently hit within a dime. great shot placement is much more important than power, but I'm really liking 7.6 grain Winchester domed hollow points at 7-8 pumps group pretty tight at 20 yards.
Never go over 20meters with lower power air rifles better less distance, there was somewhere a video about how much power is needed for pest that they don't suffer. Everything else is Animal torture and if you get caught doing this you will end in prison, with good reason.
I know this is an older video but I would say high 600 fps is pretty dam good for this gun without getting into higher quality pellets. It's a great back yard shooter. Good video.
Dang, I was hoping you'd test to see if more than 10 pumps actually does increase the velocity.
This is a well made video, angles are good and commentary is good. I wonder why it doesn't have more views
I'd of tried it with 15 - 20 pumps. 23 - 25 pumps it will start not fireing because the hammer isn't heavy enough to pop the valve. Swinging the gun downward when pulling the trigger will add to the hammer force and discharge it. I used 15 all the time. BUT! It was with one from the 80s that was still all metal construction. Great vid. Testing was a big part in airgunning for me. A meter would of been the bomb. I used a 10 pound block of modeling clay. Penetration varied widely with temp. 60s an inch. 80s 2 inches. Normally the clay was swollen with pellets from blasting bottle caps. Cleaning it out was a minor pain by slicing it like thin bread and squeeze out the lumps. I tested a hundred different pellets with different guns to find their favorite. The Beeman gold hollowpoints (Silver Bear) was one of the most accurate. Surpassed only by Daisys Olympic match grade Avanti. They came packaged seperately like a box of chocolates. 10 shots in one hole was not uncommon.
Thank you! Good stuff! Btw, I have the same chrono. There is a way to switch to fps, at least on mine that was purchased recently. Check your manual, and I believe it's just a matter of holding down one of the control buttons for a couple of seconds. Best wishes!
This gun, the 1377 and a Gamo 220 were my youth. Gamo was the big gun for destroying stuff but the Daisy and Crosman were super fun
880 seems to perform well with Gamo Lethal / 5.5gr., and the less expensive Crosman Destroyer and Hollow Point.
The worst pellet I’ve found for 880 is H&N Crow Magnum / 8gr., maybe because they are sold unpolished.
Good information - thanks! ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐
When you turn on the crono,wait until the fps setting shows,hold down the button and it will set itself in fps
I needed a reference point for buying a new bb pistol and my 880 was it. Thanks so much for the numbers!
I may be incorrect but i think i saw somewhere that the daisy powerline 880 shoots .177 bbs at 800 fps and pellets at 750
Yes
These aren't bbs are pellets. They're a combination of both.
@@mr.butt-head.5108 your sentence makes no sence 😭
@@mr.butt-head.5108 your sentence makes no sence 😭
@@jaeanthonywharton8226 their pellets with BBs inside them
Very well produced video. Airguns are definitely my thing and I'm always glad to discover another YT channel that spotlights them. The 880 is a bb/pellet gun and the 800fps is for bbs, I'm pretty sure, so you might try them. I also found recently that Pyramyd Air is listing the velocity as 750 for bbs and 715 for pellets. I have seen the 800fps figure that you're using on a number of online suppliers sites, but the are probably just stating what's on the box. Pyramyd is pretty big on customer satisfaction and I think they temper the maker's claims sometimes after doing their own testing. I do lots of testing on lots of guns just for my own enjoyment ( don't really want to do the whole YT publishing gig, so I'm very grateful for you guys that do ) but I don't think I have ever seen those ultralight pellets, so this is good info. Not a big fan of any Gamo pellets that I can think of, but I try to have some of everything I hear about, just for my testing and because you never know when you might find a sleeper that excels in one of your guns. Also never seen that chrony. What's it called?
I don’t think there’s a brand name, it’s just a generic chrony off Wish. As for the ultralight pellets, I think Gamo discontinued them and I can sort of see why; almost any break barrel 177 would make those go supersonic which is not a desirable trait to most airgunners
@@casualairgunner7417 you
Alloy pellets go above 800 fps. Lead typically does 710 average. Not sure why his is performing so badly. I assume his China measuring device is trash. Daisy is VERY consistent at sea level at pushing mid 7 grain pellets at 710 to 716 fps.
I just bought one of these for less than $70 I suppose that's a good price. I bought it strictly for shooting BBs in my backyard and now I know three pumps will be good enough for plinking what I'm shooting at and every now and then a fourth pump if I put something out further. Thanks for the video :-)
just watched and noted numbers between 760 and 880.
2 pumps an 880 is worth 3 pumps on the 760,
both pumped equal after that, the 880 is consistently about 100 fps faster.
with either, there isn't much sense going past 8-9 pumps.
9 pumps from a 760 is slightly slower than 6 pumps from an 880
8 pumps on 760 about equal to 5 on the 880, 7 vs 4 are close like that too.
the 880 is just a much better choice for that same kind of money spent.
expect 600-650 fps with 7-8-9 pumps with 7.5 grain pellets.
Very interesting, but not a surprise. I've owned a few 880's (and an 881) since the early '70's and still own my first 880 that I got for Christmas in '72. Back in those days, they advertised the FPS using BB's and claimed 650fps, and all 880's had a smooth bore barrel, with the 881 coming out a year later in '73 I think, with a rifled barrel (I had an 881 in the early '80's). At that point, they were saying 710fps with BB's and 685fps with pellets.
Cool thank you so much for your time and effort making this video, I was looking for this exact information 🎉
Ten pumps what ever I was going to shoot is long gone.
The manufacturers employ all sorts of manipulations to get the projectile velocities they advertise. In this case, I believe the main manipulation is measuring the velocity of metal BBs instead of pellets. Since this particular gun has shallower rifling than a dedicated pellet gun, it lends itself more to high speeds with BB's. Other manipulations include cleaning and oiling of the barrel itself (which you should be doing yourself anyway) and possibly oiling of the ammunition itself. I myself have performed these manipulations, and have gotten metal BB's to fly at speeds in the 740 to 760 FPS range. I've only gotten one to go past 800 by pumping more than 10 times, which is not recommended because it can potentially damage the underlever and/or spring.
You should test Crosman models like this, they are notorious for overstating by 20-30%, the Legacy 1000 barely can get above 750 with the lightest alloy pellets.
the daisy manual states 715 fps for pellets
That's the marketing department haha they always ease those numbers to a favorable point. I would question, your chrony could it be a little off? You may want to use a better machine just to know.
They round up.
With standard 7.4 grain lead pellets the 880 should produce 685-690 FPS when the gun is fairly new. I’ve tested mine many times over the years. Replacing the piston o-ring once a year helps to maintain that velocity
Owned one of these as a kid. Shot many small critters with it including birds, crawdads, frogs, and even a rabbit. I used various numbers of pumps, but noticed 4 seemed like a minimum to get the job done. Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the video.
Comparisons with the 901 would also be interesting.
I'm really enjoying your videos
You should do BBs, I'm curious how fast those are from the 880
In england we,r limited to 12ft lb for rifles and 6ft lb for pistols so we don’t need chrono,s, we just fire a pellet from a slingshot and gauge it, or for a pistol we just throw the pellet! 🤣🤣🤣 this government needs removed!
They use chrono all the time and you know that some people own Firearn Licenses and than can own air rifles that have full power also real rifles but still not stronger air pistols than 6foot pound for that you need a special certificate that no normal person can get, with this kind of certification you can almost own everything.
@@WaschyNumber1 yeah it would be a nightmare trying to get a certificate here at the minute, think the government are getting worried about a revolution coz lots of gun owners seem to be getting hassle off the police. Trying to remove people’s guns
@@paulmc6940 the is also a lead ban going on, that's totally ridiculous, they try with everything they can to destroy the shooting community and many thousands of jobs also, that are behind the industry.
@@WaschyNumber1 yeah for sure, lots have had there licence sent out with guns missing from it which could get you in big trouble if you didn’t notice it, then saying just write it on yourself. It stinks coz an illegal firearm here is 5yr in prison.
They rate them with alloy pellets not lead.that way they can claim higher fps
BB's go through steel cans easily at 50ft. Will open up some weaker can material.
If you read the instructions you'd know the advertised velocity is for BBs not pellets.
I can shoot six 7.9Gr pellets at once with 20 pumps. and it can easily shoot 3 at the same time with 10-15 pumps with penetration into a note book.
At 5 pumps you are illegal in Canada 😢
Try oiling the barrel tube lol
The original advertisement for an 880 Daisy was 13 pumps...
About 8 pumps Put big dents in the bottom of cans but doesn't go through on the 1st tr
Using 7.8 gr. pellets
What happens if you pump it 15-20 times along with is it bad for the gun? I pumped mine once at 15, although I ain't sure if the velocity and energy of the projectile would increase or decrease.
I did too . I felt a power increase 💯
@@jamespeterson6198 I've been doing it more often now. I had an Another Poweline 880 beforehand which I scrapped for parts. So If anything goes wrong I'm ready.
@@buckarooski8998 easier to just go ahead and diesel it at 8-9 pumps.
put a fair dab of Vaseline in the skirt, pop!
Nothing it letting the more pumped air out over a valve system im guessing. Something like that was in my manual.
More than 10 pumps does nothing.
Did you make the gel? Also do you have a link to that chronograph? Thanks for the video, very cool.
sometimes ill go to 14 pumps.
finally someone made this video 😩
Could you tell me the barrel length? Like the distance the bb travels down the barrel?
Super référence tres utile merci
Any chance you could do something similar for the Daisy Model 35 with Daisy BBs?
starts at 1:50
thanks
Thanks for your video, the chrony is very interesting. Other than the m/s readout, is it easy to use?
Yeah, it's pretty simplistic and does what you'd expect a chrony to do and nothing more, nothing less. Since the instructions were in Chinese I wasn't able to read them, but it's essentially plug, charge, and play.
@@casualairgunner7417 Thanks, that is pretty awesome!
@@casualairgunner7417 hey try putting some 3in1 oil in and on the piston pump then try it again. I also had this gun in early 2000 I took mine apart and put glue around the part that holds air so it didn't leak I could pump it 15 to 20 times it sounded like a 22 going off. I think just putting out in it will help get fps up
I've only measured the speed of pellets from my Daisy 880 once but at 6 pumps and using a 7 grain pellet I got 601fps
You put in about 15 pumps with a .177 cal bb it can make that promised 300 yards (a whole lot less accurate of a shot but its def one of my favorites lol
300 yards 😂
@@WaschyNumber1 yessir at a high angel and a tracer round multiple trailing cameras you can get exact distances.
Angle*
Great video man thanks!
Great video my man
Great Video..were did you get the Chrony..thanks
someone in the GTA forums was recommending a $30 chinese chrony off eBay. I'm thinking about getting one because I want to test my 880 with and without the 880LDCs that I sell. Also did some trigger mods and curious to see if they accidentally impacted power since the daisy 880 trigger spring is also the hammer spring.
Has yours been consistent? Would be cool to compare it head to head with a mainstream chrony.
So far the chrony has been pretty consistent, yeah. The main drawback I can see to this chrony is the small size of the “shootable” zone. It makes it only possible to get muzzle velocities because anything further than point blank would likely result in the destruction of the chrony which has happened before.
@@casualairgunner7417 i see yeah makes sense
@@casualairgunner7417 Couldn't you shield the chrony?
I believe Daisy advertises 800 fps for BB's only......Pellets are less
I usually pump mine 25-30 times, and it gets nearly 1000 fps with 10.5 grain pellets
Have you done any pump mods?
Surely 😂
The daisy power line air rifle hunter or shooting is the best air rifle what you can have good shooter good hunter & partner
The best is a Weihrauch hw97k no need for many pumps only 1 and enough power for small pests ect.
vďaka za test , bolo to užitočne pre mňa , dokonca aj metre za sekundu , lebo v EU sú metre za sekundu :-) 👍👍👍
The advertised FPS for the Daisy 880 is 750 for BBs, NOT pellets. You actually pegged their advertised rate for pellets, which is 715 FPS.
The box says 800 fps.
@@jakeblack7784 Yeah that's marketing. A rounded up number. Download the manual and read the actual figures.
I think they mean 800 fps with bb,s. Pellets are heavier
It seems in my mind that pellets would still get an advantage even while heavier because they fill the barrel to the rifling. Less air waste
Translating it into feet per second must be difficult because it changes everyday I think the conversion rates change everyday I know currency does I don't know if metric is the same
🤦🏻♂️
what
Mine shoots h&n Fttg 5.xxgrins at 798fps at 800' above sea level
Correction....the whole world uses m/s, but america for some reason stickes to fps.
UK and some other country's stick too to the fps and stones for weight and other bullshit measurements, they grow never up, they want be in the stone age stuck, why ever 🤔 it makes no sense.
My daisy 880 broke in 5 shots, such a waste I really started to like it.
Bro were you manhandling it or something? They don't break that easy I've had mine for a year and shoot it everyday and it's still kicking it
@@progamerbigdaddy4478I followed the manual step by step on the fifth shot I loaded in another one and did as the manual asked.thing didn’t fire on four pumps
@@jadynescobar9118 dam you must have got a faulty one or there was a hole in the air pump
@@progamerbigdaddy4478 I don’t know worked fine at first. They are mass produced prob just got a bad one?
@@jadynescobar9118 yeah man that really sucks I'd be so pissed
I really appreciate this data. I want to use my 880 to teach deer to stay out of my garden, but I don't want to break the skin. I have sighted in at 30 yards using three pumps. Does anyone out there have advice for me?
Try two pumps. Shoot aluminum cans and see the power. Don`t shoot their eyes.
Any of yall ever pump it up to like 100?
Conversions for metric mks. to English In/lbs/feet.
Use bbs
You’ll shoot your eye out.
😂
I have pumped these up 50-75 times lol
😂😂😂😂
I remember my little cousin once pumped it 50 times and left it in the sun later it was basically a mini bomb
How many times do h need to pump it to kill a squirrel
I'm working on another video where I test its performance per pump against ballistics gel, hopefully that'll tell us more about that!
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I use 8 pumps for shooting rats at night with my 880. It shoots reliably best with RWS Basic wad cutter pellets. I have also taken wild Rodgers to 15 yards with the same pellet and 8 pumps. The pellet is still climbing at that distance, so U hold about an inch low. Head shots, and the 880 with these pellets dies the job.
if you're a good shot, clean head shot at 5-6 pumps will drop them 15-20 yards. practice at targets a bunch at 17 yards, stick with the same pellets, try 5-6-7-8 pumps.. whatever the pellet likes being shot from an 880 to consistently hit within a dime. great shot placement is much more important than power, but I'm really liking 7.6 grain Winchester domed hollow points at 7-8 pumps group pretty tight at 20 yards.
Never go over 20meters with lower power air rifles better less distance, there was somewhere a video about how much power is needed for pest that they don't suffer.
Everything else is Animal torture and if you get caught doing this you will end in prison, with good reason.
I love multi pumps
@@russellpickett6417 🤣🤣🤣
You are using red fire pellets good& flat head good job fine
Can’t beat it for $30 lmao
🇵🇹 Sorry but I’ve bought one. They’re Chinese but for the price...
Bb get 800 fps
ayy 90th liker
Your just to close get back 5 ft