They Changed Peach...And People Hate It

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  • @lrich1104
    @lrich1104 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Personally the problem isn't even her making an expression, more expression is good, but that particular render just looks weird. I prefer the cartoony style, and the realism just feels uncanny. I'm exhausted by the increasing realism on stylized characters since it turns a bit uncanny when it's not handled well, and she could make the same expression while still having her usually blocky nose and less realistic shading. It all comes down to personal preference and this changes nothing on her in game model so it doesn't matter all that much, but I just hate how the discussion has turned so hostile.

  • @montymole297
    @montymole297 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +154

    In my opinion, the movie redesigns of the characters aren't bad, they should just stay in their place. For example, the Mario redesign would ruin the whole personality Mario gives off in the games. He's meant to be a jolly, happy, cartoony plumber that runs and jumps into blocks. The movie version is meant to fit the talking, movie role of Mario more. Neither of them should swap places. Same goes for Luigi, the Toads, Bowser, and, in my opinion, Peach. Her role all along was just meant to be a small character that supports the story. I feel like more expression would've been jarring to see in opening cutscenes. I totally agree that she just looks "flat" the way she was before the movie redesign, and I see why Nintendo put a redesign similar to (but not completely the same as) the movie version in the game where she is the main character. I don't consider it "fixed" though, and hope that this redesign doesn't appear in the next 3D Mario, or any future games not starring Peach.

    • @LowIQAnimations
      @LowIQAnimations 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is something I agree with

    • @maroonsunshinelaura
      @maroonsunshinelaura 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree with this, besides Peach's character
      It just seems like a more fleshed out Peach!

    • @_frankiefreak_
      @_frankiefreak_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      THANK YOU SO MUCH! Princess Peach is my favorite character for exactly her characterization in the games (shes not bland at all, she’s a celebration of super girly cutesie things) and I understand the change in the movie but I dont want her to become the next Daisy!

    • @RannVR
      @RannVR 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I understand this sentiment, but I don't think "small character that supports the story" applies when it's her own game...

    • @johnpett1955
      @johnpett1955 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@_frankiefreak_ to me, I still see the redesign as being the same Peach we know and love, just with more flushed out facial expressions. I can see your perspective though.

  • @TayoEXE
    @TayoEXE 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

    I disagree on Peach "not having emotion" before. Not everyone needs to be "super expressive" to be a good character. I argue that sometimes just giving more "expression" doesn't always make them "more human." Your comparison with Rosalina makes even less sense considering Rosalina almost always has a warm smile on her face. Even Peach could be seen crying or showing sadness. Peach's personality is literally like her name. She's a sweet princess, and even if you don't understand why people are upset doesn't mean their point is less valid. It just means you don't understand. Peach doesn't need to be a tomboyish, energetic go-getter like Daisy to prove she has her own sensibilities and drive to help others. She's the type to compliment you sincerely, empathize, and avoid conflict. I was fine with her being fed up with Mario and Bowser fighting over her in Odyssey. She didn't lose her personality to be a little more indepedent. What people don't like was the way she started to feel more like a western, modern ideal of an independent female ruler caricature instead of a cheery, dainty but capable ruler. She's had a lot better characterization in the rpg games and still maintained this charming personality when she joined in the battle such as in Super Mario RPG.
    That beinf said, I personally found her okay in the movie as they still made her likeable, made sense why she was good at the obstacle course, and she fully admitted needing help from Mario when necessary, a stark contrast from the "independent woman who don't need no man" stereotype that people think she became.
    In othet words, no she has always had a personality, even if it isn't familiar to you, but I agree that the distaste for her movie character is also unwarranted but steps on the line a bit that made her less recognizable

    • @theehoneymon
      @theehoneymon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      THIS!!!

    • @mjmk6647
      @mjmk6647 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Oh my god, yeah! I didn't even think about the RPGs! I just thought, that she already got more expression in Odessey, without changing her entire character. I'm afraid she'll soon feel like Daisy, but more sassy and annoying, and that it makes the character less likable. Or It's just me and I don't like such charactertypes in movies and games.

    • @TheCreativen.1
      @TheCreativen.1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You might have see me around hating, but I do quite respect this comment.
      The only thing is that Movie Peach for me it was too much different from the actual one, but whatever, we need more people like you.

    • @MinMin4theWinWin
      @MinMin4theWinWin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      EXACTLY!!!

    • @TheCreativen.1
      @TheCreativen.1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But what we can do... people say "she's cooler...when it doesn't even match her personality! Ok maybe sometimes she acted badass but the 20% doesn't make it whole!
      I would think Daisy would be cooler too if she was invincible and super ninja against Bowser, but even as a Daisy fan I know she has a limit and I respect it. I just pretend that even captured she has the same tempered personality who yells at Bowser to free her, aggressively.
      But Peach fans pretend a little too much, with Movie Peach, instead of tell Nintendo to make her sweeter and calmer ( like she is).
      Peach fans who say "She was always like this" say it because they are insecure and totally aware Daisy was always pretty tough, tomboyish and athletic, so they want also their girl to be a badass amazon princess and since Nintendo want to put down Daisy they use it in advantage, making Daisy fan doubt she was even a Tomboy at all.
      Just because Nintendo is lazy not to give her more tomboyish outfits doesn't mean she isn't!
      And last thing: comics. Don't. Count so stop mention super Mario adventures y'all!

  • @PeachyCatty
    @PeachyCatty 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +167

    I love that they're making her more expressive, I just don't think they had to change her face to do it. Look at Kung-Fu Peach for example, they made her more expressive while keeping her general features the same. The center art on the other hand, now looks a bit out of place compared to the other renders that still use her main model.

    • @LoganverseS1
      @LoganverseS1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      How tho

    • @Bubba-64
      @Bubba-64 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah

    • @PeachyCatty
      @PeachyCatty 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      also that comment about Peach's 'blocky' nose is so strange since Rosalina and Pauline also have it..

    • @SwiftieLuma
      @SwiftieLuma 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Perfectly said, nothing less and nothing more. The expressions she makes in the back are different but her face is still the one we know, the one in the middle however tweaked all her features, even her nose, and ends up looking like the movie version which im not really fond of design wise (not a fan of that art style FOR THE GAMES), so by comparison its jarring and unnecesary.

    • @Irrelevant210
      @Irrelevant210 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The way people can get so worked up over a face is crazy. You're at least being reasonable, but I still don't think it's that big of a deal, and if anything, I honestly like the new face more as it makes her seem more mature.

  • @levimorton483
    @levimorton483 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    The redesign is respectable, but to others, the OG design is the true OG.

  • @AlastorAlice
    @AlastorAlice 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    She literally looks fine in the redesign and people are actually mad-
    As a member of a Hazbin Hotel fandom who has seen those redesigns, you guys are complaining about nothing.

  • @2CoolBros.
    @2CoolBros. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    Mixed feelings, personally. The new kung-fu expression is excellent and better represents what Peach is actually doing. But the new main expression does not quite suit Peach's default, peachy nature. But I like that they improved the facial features and whatnot.

    • @NJHProductions512
      @NJHProductions512 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Same.

    • @johnpett1955
      @johnpett1955 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I kinda like it. It's different, but overall it's a good change. It feels more expressive.

    • @reecey1504
      @reecey1504 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In the bin with this “default Peachy nature”. She’s been an expressionless nothing for 20-30 years, good to see her being expressed as a strong, determined character that she should be.

    • @NJHProductions512
      @NJHProductions512 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She has had expression. You just dislike the expression that has been on display. @@reecey1504

    • @hoshi411
      @hoshi411 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kung fu? Kung fu Karen more like it.

  • @gtcproductions4097
    @gtcproductions4097 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    For me, it’s the fear of her becoming more like her movie self that has me concerned with this design change.

    • @PixelShiftss
      @PixelShiftss 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Well the movie version of peach is wayyy Better then game peach so I hope she does be more like movie

    • @gadget5231
      @gadget5231 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@PixelShiftssI feel like her entire personality in the movie is just a toned down Daisy ngl

    • @INFERNO95
      @INFERNO95 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@PixelShiftss Movie peach was the only bad thing about peach.

    • @TheCreativen.1
      @TheCreativen.1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Finally some common sense people

    • @mariajimenafigueroa233
      @mariajimenafigueroa233 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@INFERNO95 Movie Peach wasen't that bad

  • @E_Fig05
    @E_Fig05 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I just don't like Movie Peach's design. I also think that the designs need to stay separate. You don't see Mario Wonder changing all the characters to the movie designs. Why is Showtime different?

    • @jada8047
      @jada8047 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not that big of a deal..
      Very nitpicky are we..

    • @E_Fig05
      @E_Fig05 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@jada8047 Not really. I'm not complaining about the design anywhere except on this video. I don't care that much. All I said is that in my personal opinion, the movie design of peach shouldn't be in games. Eitherr way I don't care, I probably wouldn't even have bought the game.

  • @LycanMOON
    @LycanMOON 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I don't understand what people mean when they say "their changing peach's character"
    She's always been this headstrong,intelligent,but a bit aloof woman.some of the earliest media such as the tv shows characterize her like this.also I like the new design.her face has more natural proportions instead of being weirdly long

  • @MarioTrioNumber1
    @MarioTrioNumber1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I am not really a fan of the facial expression change, mainly because of the tone of the game. Princess Peach: Showtime! looks more upbeat. I would think that the expression would fit for a more "moodier" kind of Mario game.

  • @hyperdense8589
    @hyperdense8589 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    It’s not that it’s a bad redesign, it just looks a little off
    It’s mostly just the one in the middle, that lighting is a little wack
    The kung fu one looks a little goofy but I kind of like it
    And the other two are the exact same
    I think the redesign is a perfectly fine choice, the box art just needs a touch-up or two and it’d be great

  • @Mobtrapper-hq8is
    @Mobtrapper-hq8is 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Interested to see how Twitter is reacting to this, both this video and other people’s announcements.

  • @DaGhostToastRoast
    @DaGhostToastRoast 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Only thing I agree with is that her face needed some work sure.
    Peoples issue with movie peach was that she was a bland girlboss. Her lack of bubbliness was part of it but literally most her her personality was replaced with “I’m a strong independent leader” (which is an annoying trend right now with female characters) plus Anya Taylor Joy’s voice for peach felt really weird.
    Also I don’t think he is being fair to game peach. Like if you only played the mainline games you would think peach was bland. But a lot of the rpg games and spinoff games displayed a lot of her personality. I feel he cherry picked just the ones that didn’t. Seriously people who don’t think she has more personality should read her wiki you would be surprised.

  • @brendanintheuniverse1910
    @brendanintheuniverse1910 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Because of what you said, it does make the redesign look better. The thing is, in the Karate expression, she looks a bit discombobulated. She's like, "Huh? Who are you?"

  • @chloeg6399
    @chloeg6399 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I just feel if they wanted the masuline vibe thing go for Daisy.

    • @Irrelevant210
      @Irrelevant210 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      When you can’t accept the fact that a fictional character was changed slightly to look less like a helpless little girl and more like a normal woman. “Erm stop making her ‘masculine’”

    • @pavret4663
      @pavret4663 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Irrelevant210how do you think people would react if mario was changed to look more like a normal man ?

    • @lowbattery135
      @lowbattery135 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Irrelevant210 to me its not even that she looks "masculine" because she doesn't. its just that movie peach was generic and they went for that look

    • @twinyang1770
      @twinyang1770 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      What exactly is masculine about a woman who wears a frilly pink dress and essentially plays dress up for her entire game? Peach is still feminine, yall only thing she's "masc" because didn't get kidnapped for once. Peach is the same.

    • @SwiftieLuma
      @SwiftieLuma 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I dont think its a masculinity issue here, the main issue is that the face is overall weird because it resembles the movie version which has a different artstyle to the games. You can see the other Peaches in the back looking normal like Peach does in the games meanwhile the one in the middle suddenly changes her nose, lips and eyes and looks out of place as result.
      The true problem is mixing up the movie's artstyle with the games, specially when it only applies to the center Peach as the others look normal therefore its jarring and its undestandable that it gets backlash.

  • @_J189
    @_J189 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I think the reason that people don’t like it is because of something that Nintendo has said. It’s what the characters are supposed to be. The whole cast of Mario characters is supposed to be like a cartoon, where every episode it’s like the previous episodes never happens, and characters can be whatever they need to be in that situation. That’s why Mario can play tennis and drive go karts, he can stomp on Goombas or teach typing. He can do whatever he needs to. But there are two things that always stay the same; personalities and relationships. Mario is always ready to take on an adventure, Luigi is always scared. Bowser is always the big bad, and peach is the damsel in distress. Obviously this isn’t always true, but that is their normal personality. That’s why it’s weird when bowser works with Mario in Origami King, and when peach is playable in Wonder. Throwing in stuff like that isn’t the problem, but changing her personality seemingly forever is. So even though she was a bland, blocky-faced damsel in distress, that’s what she is supposed to be. And now, it might be going away. But hey, that’s just a theory. A Nintendo theory. Thanks for reading.

    • @briannawilson8845
      @briannawilson8845 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I strongly agree. If they were to make them more like their movie versions, it would be an abrupt change. The series was always meant to be like Popeye or classic Mickey Mouse shorts where the characters' roles and story change. Nintendo themselves even said they think of the characters as actors who's roles change every game *(I truly believe myself that the Mario characters are all really just actors and the adventures they go on are really all just movies or stage plays, but then again that's my headcanon).* This is why the Mario series can be as random as they want and no one questions anything; that's just the way things are in the wacky Mushroom Kingdom.
      I have to slightly disagree with you about Luigi always being scared and Peach always being a damsel in distress. Even though the majority of the time this is a major part of their personalities, Peach was playable in other games besides Wonder and Luigi is also actually quite brave despite being easily scared.

    • @_J189
      @_J189 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@briannawilson8845 I was just using Luigi and Peach as emailed to prove a point. And as I also said, it’s most of the time. Not all the time

    • @briannawilson8845
      @briannawilson8845 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@_J189 I apologize, you're right.

    • @_J189
      @_J189 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I just realized that I said emailed in my last reply. I have no idea why I didn’t fix it or what it was supposed to say, so it’s there forever now.

  • @PixelShiftss
    @PixelShiftss 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Bruh everyone hates peach for being a bland character, she shows some personality and they hate it. Can never please Nintendo fans lmao

  • @olouwi
    @olouwi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    im more divided by the weird look of the face and not the expression itself, her nose looks so weird to me..
    the shadow under the eyes makes it really uncanny too

  • @georgeshaw4017
    @georgeshaw4017 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    1:20 Paper Peachie in Super Paper Mario is running for her life right now.

  • @Solesteam
    @Solesteam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    3:43 From what I see, I love how she's portrayed in the games, she still looks like the happy go lucky princess of the games but at the same time, I like the previous box art, with that lifeless grin she always has, it's horribly iconic at this point, probably her resting facial expression.

  • @user-hp5jn8ij9x
    @user-hp5jn8ij9x 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I personally like both kind of peaches, the bubbly always need to be rescued personality and the new serious human being know what's going on personality. What if...they would combine the two and we'll have a peach we all can enjoy!

  • @alexmabey7791
    @alexmabey7791 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ok, you've convinced me that this is a good change.

  • @GodfatherXXI
    @GodfatherXXI 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Princess Toadstool was always badass from Mario 2 and all the cartoons and media.

  • @Nickiminajsfifthson
    @Nickiminajsfifthson 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The old one is better but the new one is ok too. I think one of the things peach fans admire about her is the way she has looked for so long so it was quite shocking. I mean peach can still show expression and visually look like the peach from the games

  • @DerNeik
    @DerNeik 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    On the karate picture, the new design is a big plus bc of the emotion she's able to express with it (but of course we only see her face from a lateral angle, could still be weird with a front view), on the other one however... Ugh. The movie characters all looked a bit off and so does this new Peach model in that picture.

  • @bk7064
    @bk7064 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    After seeing her movie design this was exactly what I was a little concerned about. Her nose looks more profound and she looks like a despicable ME character. It flat out just doesn't look as good. That being said so far I only hold this opinion for the cover art of the game.

  • @kinglear6150
    @kinglear6150 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It feels like when they publish a book with production photos from a movie adaptation.

  • @ReNooN23
    @ReNooN23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Peach's new desing is good but the only thing that rubs me the wrong way is the lipstick because the big lips are a core part of her desing imo.

  • @0din176
    @0din176 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    The redesign looks great, makes her look like movie Peach

    • @barelyhere7200
      @barelyhere7200 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I think that’s most people’s problem with it

    • @Xile179
      @Xile179 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Exactly i hate the way movie peach looks

    • @Batminem0
      @Batminem0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Xile179 but why tho

    • @lowbattery135
      @lowbattery135 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Movie peach looks generic asl

    • @bk7064
      @bk7064 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Batminem0Looks worse. The nose is more profound and she looks like a despicable ME character.

  • @mariajimenafigueroa233
    @mariajimenafigueroa233 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Honestly, I'm fine with this box art change. HOWEVER, I don't think people shoulden't be hating on the game just because of the box art.

  • @MybusinessMindyoursfoo
    @MybusinessMindyoursfoo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    honestly i feel like they tried to bite off of daisy to make her have more personality. daisys my favourite and seeing that peach finally isnt being a damsel every five seconds is pretty cool.

  • @the1-upclub98
    @the1-upclub98 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They shifted her eyebrows. That's literally it. People will get triggered by everything.

  • @afro-prince9518
    @afro-prince9518 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:11 Jokes on them, they established that personality in the 1980s with the super mario bros super show.

  • @coolcatentertainment
    @coolcatentertainment 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I think this change makes Peach have more expression

    • @Guy-cb1oh
      @Guy-cb1oh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She actually has LESS expression.

  • @TheKartinguy
    @TheKartinguy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    In my opinion, I agree with you. Peach needed that facial expression. Now we have a more human like Peach that I personally really think we needed.

  • @SwiftieLuma
    @SwiftieLuma 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The one in the middle was clearly changed to resemble movie Peach possibly to use it as a marketing ploiy, meanwhile Karate Peach uses her actual face with a different expression, theres the difference. I also heavily disagree with her nose being ''better'' when its rounder because Peach's features are meant to be more sophisticated but slightly sharp, meanwhile rounder features are used for more upbeat and energetic characters and thats why Daisy has a rounder nose which is one of the features that puts her apart from Peach in facial design.

  • @Solesteam
    @Solesteam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    4:30 THAT'S WHAT I FOUND OFF! I never even knew she had eyebrows, and now that you pointed it out, that's definitely the problem I had with it, and now it's been gracefully resolved knowing she always had eyebrows...

  • @retix1892
    @retix1892 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I like og peach better
    Idc about if she looks blan

    • @LoganverseS1
      @LoganverseS1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      *bland*, but understandable

    • @retix1892
      @retix1892 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@LoganverseS1 ✅

  • @Raul_27
    @Raul_27 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    They “AnyaTaylorJoyed” Peach.

  • @0SkySniper
    @0SkySniper 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The changes are honestly great!

  • @dommario6428
    @dommario6428 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    This is a smart move, we are all used to the same: “oh wow, ya!” Peach look. Now that it is changing more like the movie, it is showing the new dependent, and powerful Mushroom Kingdom Princess. It look cool!😎

    • @Guy-cb1oh
      @Guy-cb1oh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But the new peach isn't peach she's daisy or samus wearing peach's dress. The other characters get to be faithful to themselves i don't get why peach can't.

    • @dommario6428
      @dommario6428 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Guy-cb1oh I agree with you, but maybe Nintendo wants some character growth for Peach. And who is to say that a new face changes her personality. Ya know?

  • @michaelbradshaw6567
    @michaelbradshaw6567 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I think that the more I look at her new face, the more that I'm ok with it. In my mind, tweaking her design a bit for a spin off game doesn't necessarily mean they'll do it for the main line games.
    It does make me wonder if they're going to tweak her face in the game as well though. It would be pretty weird to change it on the box art but not the actual gameplay. But that's just me.

  • @bluetoadgoomba
    @bluetoadgoomba 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The design is really good, i love it but the reason why im sort of sad is because that the old one is very iconic. However, this wont effect my enjoyment of the game, or will i care. Its just a slight change to a characters

  • @artsyomni
    @artsyomni 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I feel like this characterization of the opposing viewpoint is really surface-level. I like the changes, but I understand why people might not like it. It’s a break from a particular artistic tradition of how Peach has been drawn for decades, and people grow attached to tradition.

  • @Irrelevant210
    @Irrelevant210 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    I feel like if you say anything about this, you’re just exposing yourself for being a basement dweller. The fact people think that making Peach look less like a always-happy little girl princess and look more like a normal woman is a bad thing, is insane. I understand people are exhausted of “girl boss” or independent woman characters now due to so many of these characters being super boring in movies and things, but freaking out over just a change in Peach’s face is dumb, and calling it a “masculine” look is even worse.

    • @therealjaystone2344
      @therealjaystone2344 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      “Is Nintendo woke now?!”

    • @NL-X
      @NL-X 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      literally she has face expressions in Smash Bros lmao

    • @johnmarkson1998
      @johnmarkson1998 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      i think a good compromise is the old face style with the new explessions. the old eyebrows nose lips eyes but just a new expression. that fixes everyones complaints.

    • @Key-Knight87
      @Key-Knight87 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My point exactly

    • @JustASorcerer
      @JustASorcerer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah!! Peach should be allowed to have more varying emotions, and she can still be feminine while doing so. Those things aren't mutually exclusive.

  • @CMG_Dylan1
    @CMG_Dylan1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can’t believe that peach got plastic surgery!

  • @gambinova1072
    @gambinova1072 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    completely agree with you. they added some spices to the bland chicken. her being an independent woman in the movie was hilarious

  • @_NormalEditor
    @_NormalEditor 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    peach looks less than a weak damsel in distress and more like she can handle herself

    • @Guy-cb1oh
      @Guy-cb1oh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But that's not peach.

    • @_NormalEditor
      @_NormalEditor 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Guy-cb1oh tf do u mean that’s not peach?

  • @kinglear6150
    @kinglear6150 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    She had Daisy's personality in the movie.

    • @AmyTheBrawler
      @AmyTheBrawler 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Was she a hyperactive loudmouth?

    • @kinglear6150
      @kinglear6150 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AmyTheBrawler if we have to be reductionists, yes.

    • @jakeystarsuper
      @jakeystarsuper 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kinglear6150no she didnt. Peach was more serious. Thats all
      Shes nothing like daisy
      Once again anyone who had this claim has never had a logical argument or example of why that may be.

    • @jakeystarsuper
      @jakeystarsuper 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AmyTheBrawlerno

    • @kinglear6150
      @kinglear6150 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jakeystarsuper I don't think we need to be logical, Jakey. It's all about taste and expectations. If you liked Peach in the movie that's fine, I'm glad. I liked her well enough, but to me she seemed a bit off-brand. I'm sure you can acknowledge my right to feeling that way about her character. I'll take she's not precisely like Daisy, it was an hyperbole on my part, and just to state my point that she didn't feel like Peach to me (emphasis in "to me"). Again, we're discussing an adaptation of a character, and Illumination might have their reasons for the change, but it's not hard science or data or something logical we need to discuss about it. You can share, if you want, the things that you liked about Peach, and I can discuss the things I didn't, and I'm sure we can find common ground (as, like I said, I liked her well enough)... or not and that's fine too, right?
      If this can make the conversation flow better I can take back my Daisy comparison. You might be right that she's not really like her. She's not like Peach to me either, though. Again, there's something off about her, but if you loved her that's cool too.

  • @aleee2323
    @aleee2323 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Absolutely hate this. That horrible americanized movie design has started to corrupt the cute, pretty, iconic original Japanese art.

  • @Blue_skittle6
    @Blue_skittle6 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    She looks like movie peach

  • @EFGamingcube
    @EFGamingcube 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    At first i was like, "it the same picture" but when i looked closer i was like "wait a second" but i don't mind this change since i don't even notice anything

  • @kasumikat
    @kasumikat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im so glad you mentioned the super princess peach game, it was one of my favorite ds games when i was younger

  • @PurplePuppyV
    @PurplePuppyV 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm with you 100% on this one dude! This was a great video!💜

  • @brandonwilliams6119
    @brandonwilliams6119 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    When people thought the Mario Movie’s success wouldn’t affect the game, we were totally blindsided by this change. For me personally it’s not a big deal, but there was nothing wrong with the original boxart and in case anyone didn’t know it’s for regional releases of the game, it’s kinda like American/Japanese Kirby but not really since Japan will also get the updated Boxart.

  • @NJHProductions512
    @NJHProductions512 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I think the model is fine, I just dont like who they are changing her character. It would possible to give her more emotion and expression without changing her character, but it seems like they aren't doing that. But hey, it could be worse. A lot worse.
    Regarding the poster, I think karate peach's expression is fine. It fits with the karate vibe.

  • @greenrobot5
    @greenrobot5 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They fixed her face, but now that you mention her movie version yeah it wasn't the real Peach we grew up with

  • @Not.obsessed116
    @Not.obsessed116 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much complainanting on Princess Daisy Nin10doland, cause she’s my favorite Mario character, and I agree about her personality🤩

  • @eclipses3131
    @eclipses3131 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    HATE IT. it’s giving me cancer just looking at it. I wonder if these people know SPP existed without changing her face.
    Ik people will say she looks the same. You know how some people are really good at pointing when celebrities get cosmetic changes or Botox? Same situation here. Some people aren’t able to tell and think she looks the same but others are very good at spotting new things

  • @YuseiTheSynchroHero
    @YuseiTheSynchroHero 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It's not even like the slight change on PPS boxart Peach's face will reflect the artstyle of the game itself. What we saw of how Peach looked in the Direct is most likely what we're getting and I don't see any issues there. Lol.
    Also, if Mario, Luigi, etc are allowed to be more expressive now more than ever, why is Peach the exception all of a sudden? XD

    • @mariajimenafigueroa233
      @mariajimenafigueroa233 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Because that makes her """woke""" apparently 🤦

  • @Solesteam
    @Solesteam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    5:53 I definitely don't mind the change all too much... But I do find they need to make a bit of a balance between the calm of Roselina, and the Lively behavior of Daisy, as Peach has always kinda been presented as the middle ground, even if at times she does exhibit even less character than the stoic space princess...

  • @Solesteam
    @Solesteam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2:27 No, no... You're not alone in that... That's nearly everyone's feelings.

  • @maevblog9955
    @maevblog9955 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I don't have problems with princess peach's design in the movie. But its too much when it comes up with in games

    • @corrin-1976
      @corrin-1976 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Face expression change is too much? That’s not even her design

    • @LoganverseS1
      @LoganverseS1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A facial expression is not a fucking design Wdym bro😑

    • @maevblog9955
      @maevblog9955 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@corrin-1976 oh. Ok

  • @Batminem0
    @Batminem0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Liking the video before even watching it for some reason>>>>

  • @BeeLy1011
    @BeeLy1011 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People are seriously getting so pressed over a slight mouth difference

  • @stary-_-
    @stary-_- 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm just glad I wasn't the only one who completely hated it. I mean it won't change much, but still.

  • @Oceane1803
    @Oceane1803 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yeah I admit that the new one seems better. When I compare to the original, I feel like the original's face is too oval and weird with the big open mouth, I dunno it just feels weird.
    But I really do think Nintendo's making a mistake by wanting to make Peach fight. You say that she always get kidnapped and is always helpless.
    Well that's not always true. In the first two Paper Mario games, Peach gets kidnapped, but she's not helpless. In fact, she has a big role in Mario's progress as, despite not being able to fully escape, she can escape her room to spy on Bowser or whoever is kidnapping her and send info to Mario.
    I think this is the route they should take with Peach. Still get kidnapped and not be able to fight back, but having her own set of skills to help the cast. Like her stealth, kindness and her great intelligence (that last one fits her because she's a ruler who has to take the important decisions), like in the first two Paper Mario games.
    To me, this is the best Peach depiction because the games that make her fight don't make much sense. If she can fight just as well as Mario, then why doesn't she just free herself ?
    And this depiction of her that can't fight could also fit when she's not kidnapped. During a crisis, she could stay cold-headed and make the right decisions. Come up with the plan to fix everything that Mario and the rest of the cast would then put into motion.
    I would really like to see more of this Peach, a Peach who brings her own unique set of skills to the table, not just "she can fight like the rest of the cast", and truly flesh out her character using elements that make sense.
    But it's Nintendo we're talking about, it's never gonna happen in the games they make themselves, and I doubt Princess Peach Showtime will truly do something interesting with her personality.

  • @kaylaskreations4973
    @kaylaskreations4973 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What did they do to my girl!

  • @Bokokirby
    @Bokokirby 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Stopping kids from saying “first”

    • @Kitten_Me1023
      @Kitten_Me1023 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      but you aren't first anyways so no, you're not.

    • @MyNameIsZoniconix
      @MyNameIsZoniconix 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's inevitable bro 😔

  • @BUGFlower413
    @BUGFlower413 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think the idea of changing her design and making her more expressive is more than ok, her character would benefit a lot from that, but _this_ model just isn't it. It looks really off place, without mentioning the lighting and shading on her face looks so wrong now.

  • @tbjoshua8941
    @tbjoshua8941 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +230

    Oh come on you people need to calm down peach looks so cool you guys are over reacting

    • @smashbayopro
      @smashbayopro 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      IKR, I personally like the original look better, but I’m not going to hate on Nintendo’s hard work on giving her a new design.

    • @soramembrino82
      @soramembrino82 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I agree.

    • @LoganverseS1
      @LoganverseS1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Agreed

    • @tbjoshua8941
      @tbjoshua8941 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@smashbayopro same

    • @mariajimenafigueroa233
      @mariajimenafigueroa233 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@@tbjoshua8941 People will overreacted to anything

  • @KatelynJewel
    @KatelynJewel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I 100% agree with you. When I saw the updated cover in comparison, I immediately thought it looked better with Peach being more expressive. I understand some may prefer the original because she looks cuter with the cheery look, but I feel the expressions just bring out more personality in her hyping the game up as a big adventure. It reminds me of how the Japanese covers for Kirby games show the titular character being cute while in the American versions give him angry expressions to add some edge to him.

  • @mattdickson627
    @mattdickson627 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    The Mario movie inspired them for sure. A movie is a movie Nintendo, changing iconic character sprites is a sin
    Ok her redesign is pretty good

  • @Insert_Name_Here908
    @Insert_Name_Here908 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imagine being so privileged, that something like this bothers you 😂

  • @Nintenbro_gaming
    @Nintenbro_gaming 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t like how her expression makes her look more like an “attitude girl with the crossed arms” instead of her sweet personality which I personally favor. I don’t like that she’s a damsel in most games but her personality doesn’t have to change

  • @rondorock2563
    @rondorock2563 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't understand why does Peach have to changed so drastically to be "more human"now i feel like they gave her imposter syndrome, nobody asked for Peach to be a whole different character...
    There was literally nothing wrong with the way she was I just wanted her to have more agency like not getting kidnapped by Bowser anymore because it's gross. I wish they would have just let Peach be her self.

  • @zkoopa4445
    @zkoopa4445 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Movie Peach looks more like a soccer mom

  • @ravenebony2267
    @ravenebony2267 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The peach art seems fine to me. I like the expressiveness.

  • @user-dd7lt6rf8n
    @user-dd7lt6rf8n 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    peach did need this and I feel the design will help in the future games

  • @captainphoton1693
    @captainphoton1693 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I mean. When peach in the movie is not figjting or trying to prove something. She is bubbly. It's still part of her personality.

  • @_frankiefreak_
    @_frankiefreak_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a woman & fan of you, I’m incredibly disappointed in this change & also in this video. Peach was literally one of the most expressive characters of the mario crew before & just because you guys can’t identify with her hyper feminine and super girly characteristics and demeanor doesn’t make her have ‘less personality’. Daisy is the ‘’cool’’ and ‘’tough’’ one of the Mario girls and GUESS WHAT! Peach & Daisy are equally as powerful and unique for their exact characterizations! This was clearly changed to appeal to a specifically male audience who would originally says those exact scrutinizing things about Princess Peach like that she’s bland just because they don’t get her. Guess what? A Mario, a Waluigi and heck even a Donkey Kong is somewhat bland to me & many Peach fans as well, because we don’t see ourselves in those characters as much!

  • @octobombyt
    @octobombyt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how much expression Nintendoland finally had it was amazing

  • @elvinrivera5638
    @elvinrivera5638 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I think the problem with Peach in the Movie was that she felt More Daisy than Peach, not that she was masculine

    • @donaldduck73
      @donaldduck73 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Even dasiy isn't girl boss victory win
      We lobe dasiy because she's just living her life

    • @jakeystarsuper
      @jakeystarsuper 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How is peach like daisy? Again i seen no logical argument to people who said this.
      Movie peach is just more serious
      Daisy is not that serious and shes not a warrior like movie peach is

  • @spartanq7781
    @spartanq7781 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It really was a pointless change. The movie should have conformed to the characters from the game if anything not the other way around.

  • @20ThomasQ
    @20ThomasQ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She transformed from the helpless character you have to save in the games to a disney princess that is the main character.

  • @JerrytheVideoGamer257
    @JerrytheVideoGamer257 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I personally love Peach's slightly redesigned face because it gives her more character. And Nintendo also gave her teeth because in the previous Mario games she never had visible teeth so I'm glad Nintendo fixed that problem!

  • @BuizelCream
    @BuizelCream 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's funny cause it's just the boxart, which is heavily influenced by marketing purposes. It's trying to sell to the Mario Movie audiences. But the game will still remain the same with the classic Peach model, which makes everything fine in the long run to be honest, making this issue just a very current thing.
    However, I think some people would see this as misguiding the consumer in some way later on.

  • @GnomAnimations
    @GnomAnimations 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ironic.
    Fans: OMG PEACHS MOVIE DESIGN IS SO GREAT
    nintendo: *changes the game design to look a bit more like the movie*
    Fans: EW CHANGE IT BACK

  • @M567dk
    @M567dk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People associate the independence to Princess Daisy at times given how the fan’s view of her. They see Princess peach as the peaceful one. Honestly, the games and movies should be different from each other.

  • @ElvenRaptor
    @ElvenRaptor 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No, they changed it, and most people don't care.

  • @Tiredjungle13
    @Tiredjungle13 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think more personality is never a bad idea, i think Peach as a character has a lot of potential, i played bowsers inside Story and peach could just defeat him with one punch in that game, peach was always strong, she was caring and all sure, but i think it is a good idea to give her more to do then getting kidnaped. Like her backstory. Who are her parents. Why is a human ruling over the toads ? In the paper Mario games she had a lot of personality. People did like that. So if the game is good i will not complain. Personality can be a good thing. Why not. Unless it is very bad. But i think Nintendo knows what they are doing.

  • @joopvanhedel1372
    @joopvanhedel1372 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Paper princess peach has a lot of personality in fact it's almost a combination of normal peach and movie peach

  • @aaronprewitt344
    @aaronprewitt344 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m pretty confident in saying now that the next 10 years of Mario as a franchise will mirror the movie designs.

  • @fridaynightfunkinfan5627
    @fridaynightfunkinfan5627 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I might preorder Showtime when the day is closer to its release.

  • @ProfessorZoom600
    @ProfessorZoom600 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is why I don't like watching people's opinionated videos......

  • @NinToby
    @NinToby 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People are so afraid of change it’s crazy. I bet if this was how peach always looked and people got a glimpse of OG peach they would hate it

  • @swordheartstudios
    @swordheartstudios 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly I love Peach's new facial design for Princess Peach Showtime! as it shows how much Nintendo is not afraid to take that big step into trying something new.

  • @Solesteam
    @Solesteam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:40 We're just not exactly used to Peach having a soul and all that... I mean, she's always been the soulless husk damsel in distress template, Daisy is the tough independent hero princess... Peach has always been the opposite to Mario in that way like Luigi is to Daisy...
    I feel like they could have given Peach more expression without making her look like a the slightly less cool Daisy...
    But then again, I've never seen the movie and I don't think I'm gonna get to play the game, so I'm probably wrong about it all and it may very well be that they kept how peach seems like she would act while making her a competent heroic character...

  • @matias9978
    @matias9978 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When the line is drawn at a facial expression, you must ask yourself if it worth being angry at