Knowing your sarcasm, specially about Mercedes cars i would rate this a solid 4/10 for fit and finish, its a shame how much rattle one can get in a 100.000€ car. Looks like the last well build cars from Mercedes are the a-class and the convertibles, tested a 2018 e-class in the last month, and it was mostly rock solid. I also dont like the interior looks of all new Mercedes, applying Screen everywhere to keep the chinese happy😂
Besides the universally despised Tesla tablet failing every Mercedes across the lineup, there's a special place in hell for engineers of flimsy plastic electronic gear shifters. How was this deemed superior to a classic wood and leather gated shifter in decades of Mercedes? Are your cupholders really more sacred than a solid intuitive gear shifter? The contrast between fit and finish scores and materials is shocking. Your own 2008 CLS has a better executed interior in every way than this S580. I need my wood and leather shifter in the console and my small shrouded navigation screen mounted deep in dash, never to be defiled with fingerprints.
It’s ok,Kim Kardashian’s loyalty to them will still make them survive, and the moment she said Maybach is better than Rolls Royce proves that she doesn’t know anything or two about cars
Having extensive experience with the big 3, ( Maybach, Bentley, and RR) Maybach IS overall a better buy than both. RR had the best materials and softest drive. Bentley was the most sportiest with good materials. Maybach sits in the middle of both and does everything as a whole better than both brands. Maybach had more creature comforts then both combined. Where the other 2 shine is simplicity. It's more of a pick your poison type of thing, but once you're at a point where you're looking a RR, Bentley, and Maybach as a potential buy surely you've won at life.
@@xxxmachiavelli7726 had a drive in S580 Maybach with 19" and ABC, comparing that to the Flying Spur and Ghost, easily the Ghost wins this one, the comfort of RR is clearly unbeatable, the Maybach on the other hand with ABC doesn't feel as soft as i thought it would, Flying Spur does feel the sportiest because Bentley is suppose to mix sportiness and luxury together. the only thing that the Maybach wins is the price, that's all and neither of any big bosses i knew drive a Maybach
@@xxxmachiavelli7726 what matters is Maybach bankrupt in 2012 as both Bentley and RR survived, i can also tell, you are a diehard Mercedes fan at this point, not to mention the creaks in the w223 interior which is a huge no
I've owned multiple Mercedes all my life and me personally, they're built solid, there's some few bad apples here and there but at least 90% of Mercedes are built like a rock, and that's for new ones too.
Interesting I thought you were going to rank it low - but can see your point. I have a W221 S600 - which you literally can NOT get it to creak anywhere, the rear A/C vents are surrounded in like a solid wood / aluminium backed casing... I guess the new modern high gloss piano black is fundamentally plastic so it creaks -but my S600 is quiet as... However - the W223 is a cool / modern car!
@@martinsv9183 Have you been in a W221 and W140? While I'd say it would be overall a better quality interior, the W221 is a massive step back up from the W220... The W220 feels like my E Class, maybe a default S500 or something is cheaper but the 600 is rock solid.
@@thatmatty231guy Yes I have. And I've owned a w126 and a c126. The pre-facelift w220 was really bad. The facelift better. The dash and gauge cluster in the w221 is not perfect. Feels "thinner" than in the old ones before the w220. But the w221 is surely better than the new ones... I dont dispute that. Doesnt matter what engine is put into them though. Interior is same structure.
@@martinsv9183 Yeah if one area lacks on the 221 I agree - the instrument cluster etc is a bit 'plain' and thin / vunerable... otherwise its really nice. The W140 I have yet to own but would love one sometime... Never been in a W126 so i'll take your word on that one.
this does NOT sound like a 11/10. almost every panel you touched made a noice or was moving around like crazy. ive driven more than one s-class and every single one had the same issues. its way better than the c-class but still. considering you could spec this car for up to 280k (in europe, prob even more expensive in other parts of the world) this is a no go. although i have to say it feels very nice to drive and to sit in.
Bruh you guys mistake the creak sounding for the rattling of parts... He scores upon rattling of cars, so if sounds were your priority go for a low end car made fully of plastic where wood plastic and metal doesn't rub each other... Or the interior is of full leather on a plastic piece ... Am i able to explain it correctly?
@@ImanSengupta2102 i get what youre saying but it doesnt justify the creaks. From my experience the door and the centre console are just bad in every new mercedes. When you press the buttons to adjust the seat or unlock the car its creaks 50% of the times you press it. When you drive fast around corners the entire center consoler creaks cuz you get pushed against it. A-class, c-class, e-class or s-class. All have the same design and all have the same creaks when you touch it.
Rock Solid??? Why did I hear tons of squeaks during your test? I think your partialness to the car is deafening you 😂 Back in 1987 my parents bought a new 300SDL and when they sold it 8 years later, still not a single rattle. This video makes my 2024 Jetta sound whisper quiet even though it’s definitely not. And my Jetta SE was only $23,500 brand new
The s580 will definitely be my next car. I initially preferred the more interesting design language (and buttons) of the W222 but I just drove one of these in July and was immediately smitten. I will say I'll probably wait until the midlife facelift to see if they get rid of the piano black trim which is the bane of my existence. I still think I'd be okay with the W222, but the better build quality and tech is the deciding factor. I'll wait for a low-mileage one with the exclusive leather package for better interior materials + the high end Burmester.
I think it’s better to stick to your w222, my w221 and w222 is built way better than the w223, safe to say the G70 7 series is the benchmark of the segment now for a reason
@@seansiew5629 In my experience the 222 has nicer materials and design but has more squeaks and rattles. Its probably just like playing the lottery and depends on the car. The 7 series is definitely more solid but it’s not the benchmark for anything. I haven’t driven one but most reviews seem to prefer the s class. Also, the prior version of that car also had better materials and build quality - it just wasn’t as “interesting” as the new 7 series. I think the COVID supply chain issues affected the interior quality of all MB and BMW.
@@tool8337 the reviews that claim the S class is better than the 7 series is just Throttle house and Sam CarLegion, which those reviews are 100% paid by Mercedes Benz, and the S class sales have been falling badly ever since 2022=12% down,2023=24% and this year alone 37% down, the 7 series however climbed 6% in 2023 and 12% this year compared to s class, sales number determine which one is doing successful, the worse news is s class wouldn’t get a new generation due to blunder sales of the w223, and the 7 series is redeeming for a new gen in 2030
@@seansiew5629 In my experience, most reviews that don’t strictly prefer the S class split the middle and conclude that you should get the S class if you prioritize one thing and the 7 Series if you prioritize other things. I believe Matt Watson preferred the S class (off memory) and Thomas from Autogefuhl stated he personally prefers the 7 series because you can get vegan leather interior options but get whichever you like more because they trade blows. Overall, the reviews also take into account that the 7 Series offers similar benefits for less money, not just which is better. Secondly, I know the S class has seen a decline while the 7 series has seen an unusual increase in sales. The S class still outsold the 7 series in 2023 (10k v. 11k sales). But 2024 is looking like the 7 series will sell more. However, I would argue the electric 7 series puffs BMW’s numbers considering the EQS is so awful. People who want electric tend to switch brands and get the 7 series instead of the EQS or the S class. I personally like the current 7 series but would not say it’s the new “benchmark” considering in a 1v1 the cars are so closely matched yet the S class still has the heritage and prestige. Finally, I don’t believe you are correct that Mercedes is ending the S class model. There are no credible rumors that it is the case and it wouldn’t make sense. It sounds like I’m defending the S class - while I loved driving it and plan on buying it in the next couple of years, its mostly because my brother works for MErcedes giving me access to cheaper servicing and parts. It makes sense for me to stay within the brand but I do prefer many current BMWs to Mercedes (e.g., C class). EDIT: you’re ridiculous to suggest Throttle House gets paid to say good things about Mercedes.
@@tool8337majority of their reviews are clearly talking how good Mercedes is, I mean you look at how good they praised the 4 cylinder hybrid C63 for your reference, and Maybach would never trump out Bentley and Rolls Royce for that matter
I My Honda Jazz has 150k on it and doesn't have these issues. How pathetic that it is vastly inferior to an economy car. Also my Jazz has matte sheen plastic... not awful piano black
Are this crack sounds mean cheap quality? Who touches his car like this during normal day?😅 The other cars like genesis are doing the same noises also the m2. Can someone explain why the parts are making this noises
Knowing your sarcasm, specially about Mercedes cars i would rate this a solid 4/10 for fit and finish, its a shame how much rattle one can get in a 100.000€ car. Looks like the last well build cars from Mercedes are the a-class and the convertibles, tested a 2018 e-class in the last month, and it was mostly rock solid. I also dont like the interior looks of all new Mercedes, applying Screen everywhere to keep the chinese happy😂
This is not a 100,000€ car. This is more than that. A whole lot more than that. It starts at 130,000€ without options
@@konyina117k msrp in usa
@@konyina
You’re right, maybe i was thinking at prices about 2021..
Mercedes price increased a lot since then.
My 20yo Nissan Maxima does not creak like this, despite having almost 240tmls on the clock.
Besides the universally despised Tesla tablet failing every Mercedes across the lineup, there's a special place in hell for engineers of flimsy plastic electronic gear shifters. How was this deemed superior to a classic wood and leather gated shifter in decades of Mercedes? Are your cupholders really more sacred than a solid intuitive gear shifter? The contrast between fit and finish scores and materials is shocking. Your own 2008 CLS has a better executed interior in every way than this S580. I need my wood and leather shifter in the console and my small shrouded navigation screen mounted deep in dash, never to be defiled with fingerprints.
Would be perfect for potato chips advertisement...very crunchy!
LOL
I have a 13 year old car which isn't even a luxury, and it doesn't do this terribly.
If you think paying 100k for this pos is bad remember maybach has the exact same creeks and its priced at 200k lol
It’s ok,Kim Kardashian’s loyalty to them will still make them survive, and the moment she said Maybach is better than Rolls Royce proves that she doesn’t know anything or two about cars
Having extensive experience with the big 3, ( Maybach, Bentley, and RR) Maybach IS overall a better buy than both. RR had the best materials and softest drive. Bentley was the most sportiest with good materials. Maybach sits in the middle of both and does everything as a whole better than both brands. Maybach had more creature comforts then both combined. Where the other 2 shine is simplicity. It's more of a pick your poison type of thing, but once you're at a point where you're looking a RR, Bentley, and Maybach as a potential buy surely you've won at life.
@@xxxmachiavelli7726 had a drive in S580 Maybach with 19" and ABC, comparing that to the Flying Spur and Ghost, easily the Ghost wins this one, the comfort of RR is clearly unbeatable, the Maybach on the other hand with ABC doesn't feel as soft as i thought it would, Flying Spur does feel the sportiest because Bentley is suppose to mix sportiness and luxury together. the only thing that the Maybach wins is the price, that's all and neither of any big bosses i knew drive a Maybach
@@xxxmachiavelli7726 what matters is Maybach bankrupt in 2012 as both Bentley and RR survived, i can also tell, you are a diehard Mercedes fan at this point, not to mention the creaks in the w223 interior which is a huge no
cheap shiny black plastic in an S class lol. so what are you paying that super premium price for???
Kids want the problem, the 7 series G70 is way better in terms of interior quality than this
@@seansiew5629 Chinese car companies like BYD make better cars now than all german scrap.
I've owned multiple Mercedes all my life and me personally, they're built solid, there's some few bad apples here and there but at least 90% of Mercedes are built like a rock, and that's for new ones too.
such a pile of rubbish🤣🤣 not a millimeter that doesn't crunch that's just unbelievable
breaks my heart
Interesting I thought you were going to rank it low - but can see your point. I have a W221 S600 - which you literally can NOT get it to creak anywhere, the rear A/C vents are surrounded in like a solid wood / aluminium backed casing... I guess the new modern high gloss piano black is fundamentally plastic so it creaks -but my S600 is quiet as... However - the W223 is a cool / modern car!
He was being sarcastic about the 11/10 rating
And even the w221 is bad compared to a w140 or w126. Or w116 for that matter.
@@martinsv9183 Have you been in a W221 and W140? While I'd say it would be overall a better quality interior, the W221 is a massive step back up from the W220... The W220 feels like my E Class, maybe a default S500 or something is cheaper but the 600 is rock solid.
@@thatmatty231guy Yes I have. And I've owned a w126 and a c126. The pre-facelift w220 was really bad. The facelift better. The dash and gauge cluster in the w221 is not perfect. Feels "thinner" than in the old ones before the w220. But the w221 is surely better than the new ones... I dont dispute that.
Doesnt matter what engine is put into them though. Interior is same structure.
@@martinsv9183 Yeah if one area lacks on the 221 I agree - the instrument cluster etc is a bit 'plain' and thin / vunerable... otherwise its really nice. The W140 I have yet to own but would love one sometime... Never been in a W126 so i'll take your word on that one.
Good days are gone. Seeing S-Class full of squeaky plastics is very sad. Old ones until at least W221 had fine materials.
Agree
My 13 year old BMW 135 doesn’t even make those plastic cracking noise
Very creaky lol
this does NOT sound like a 11/10. almost every panel you touched made a noice or was moving around like crazy. ive driven more than one s-class and every single one had the same issues. its way better than the c-class but still. considering you could spec this car for up to 280k (in europe, prob even more expensive in other parts of the world) this is a no go. although i have to say it feels very nice to drive and to sit in.
Bruh you guys mistake the creak sounding for the rattling of parts... He scores upon rattling of cars, so if sounds were your priority go for a low end car made fully of plastic where wood plastic and metal doesn't rub each other... Or the interior is of full leather on a plastic piece ... Am i able to explain it correctly?
@@ImanSengupta2102 i get what youre saying but it doesnt justify the creaks. From my experience the door and the centre console are just bad in every new mercedes. When you press the buttons to adjust the seat or unlock the car its creaks 50% of the times you press it. When you drive fast around corners the entire center consoler creaks cuz you get pushed against it. A-class, c-class, e-class or s-class. All have the same design and all have the same creaks when you touch it.
@@TimelessKosmos yeah that part is true like you dont get to see it in bmw
He’s joking abt the 11/10 yall
@@Alexandreb311 yeah that's a possibility
I don't get the glowing review of solidity when you can hear so much squeaking when prodding the trim early on in the video?!
It was a joke
Rock Solid??? Why did I hear tons of squeaks during your test? I think your partialness to the car is deafening you 😂 Back in 1987 my parents bought a new 300SDL and when they sold it 8 years later, still not a single rattle. This video makes my 2024 Jetta sound whisper quiet even though it’s definitely not. And my Jetta SE was only $23,500 brand new
Dont know if you did not get his sarcasm or i dont get yours.
@@HoubiDV OMG Thank God!!! 😂 I was tired when I watched it. My bad.
Low volume..
Please, I hope no one will eat french fries in their S-class! 🤦🏻♂️
The s580 will definitely be my next car. I initially preferred the more interesting design language (and buttons) of the W222 but I just drove one of these in July and was immediately smitten. I will say I'll probably wait until the midlife facelift to see if they get rid of the piano black trim which is the bane of my existence. I still think I'd be okay with the W222, but the better build quality and tech is the deciding factor. I'll wait for a low-mileage one with the exclusive leather package for better interior materials + the high end Burmester.
I think it’s better to stick to your w222, my w221 and w222 is built way better than the w223, safe to say the G70 7 series is the benchmark of the segment now for a reason
@@seansiew5629 In my experience the 222 has nicer materials and design but has more squeaks and rattles. Its probably just like playing the lottery and depends on the car. The 7 series is definitely more solid but it’s not the benchmark for anything. I haven’t driven one but most reviews seem to prefer the s class. Also, the prior version of that car also had better materials and build quality - it just wasn’t as “interesting” as the new 7 series. I think the COVID supply chain issues affected the interior quality of all MB and BMW.
@@tool8337 the reviews that claim the S class is better than the 7 series is just Throttle house and Sam CarLegion, which those reviews are 100% paid by Mercedes Benz, and the S class sales have been falling badly ever since 2022=12% down,2023=24% and this year alone 37% down, the 7 series however climbed 6% in 2023 and 12% this year compared to s class, sales number determine which one is doing successful, the worse news is s class wouldn’t get a new generation due to blunder sales of the w223, and the 7 series is redeeming for a new gen in 2030
@@seansiew5629 In my experience, most reviews that don’t strictly prefer the S class split the middle and conclude that you should get the S class if you prioritize one thing and the 7 Series if you prioritize other things. I believe Matt Watson preferred the S class (off memory) and Thomas from Autogefuhl stated he personally prefers the 7 series because you can get vegan leather interior options but get whichever you like more because they trade blows. Overall, the reviews also take into account that the 7 Series offers similar benefits for less money, not just which is better. Secondly, I know the S class has seen a decline while the 7 series has seen an unusual increase in sales. The S class still outsold the 7 series in 2023 (10k v. 11k sales). But 2024 is looking like the 7 series will sell more. However, I would argue the electric 7 series puffs BMW’s numbers considering the EQS is so awful. People who want electric tend to switch brands and get the 7 series instead of the EQS or the S class. I personally like the current 7 series but would not say it’s the new “benchmark” considering in a 1v1 the cars are so closely matched yet the S class still has the heritage and prestige. Finally, I don’t believe you are correct that Mercedes is ending the S class model. There are no credible rumors that it is the case and it wouldn’t make sense. It sounds like I’m defending the S class - while I loved driving it and plan on buying it in the next couple of years, its mostly because my brother works for MErcedes giving me access to cheaper servicing and parts. It makes sense for me to stay within the brand but I do prefer many current BMWs to Mercedes (e.g., C class). EDIT: you’re ridiculous to suggest Throttle House gets paid to say good things about Mercedes.
@@tool8337majority of their reviews are clearly talking how good Mercedes is, I mean you look at how good they praised the 4 cylinder hybrid C63 for your reference, and Maybach would never trump out Bentley and Rolls Royce for that matter
They must stop using black piano plastic. Its garbage and it scratches so easily, I would rather have cheap normal black plastic than piano black
Great video! Waiting for new BMW 7 g70 to compare
G70 7 series is way better as I sat in both as a w221 and w222 owner
I’ve been waiting soo long for you to do a quality test for this generation of S class. I knew that generation of S class had terrible build quality
Lots of creaks at the beginning
I don’t know why you sugarcoating it though I heard a lot of creaks
Would love it you did a Lexus any Lexus.
Does the air conditioning smell like feet and cheese yet or too new?
Now compare that to a W140, man what a POS.
W223 is the modern w220
What’s your actual rating?
5/10
4/10
Try the new GLC!!
Mercedes the best or nothing 😂
I My Honda Jazz has 150k on it and doesn't have these issues. How pathetic that it is vastly inferior to an economy car. Also my Jazz has matte sheen plastic... not awful piano black
Are this crack sounds mean cheap quality? Who touches his car like this during normal day?😅
The other cars like genesis are doing the same noises also the m2. Can someone explain why the parts are making this noises
Poor assembly, if you can evidence the same with the R class, the Mercedes that started the horrible quality antics
interior style is so fucking mid , cla45 is way better
Please do the Porsche Taycan
Lol, BMW 7 much better 😄
Exactly, the kids be like oh “the s class is better” shows that they don’t know what they are talking about
Where is the proof that the 7 series interior is better quality it seems to use similar materials
@@dynamicremakes5592 on this channel
@@dynamicremakes5592 the video is just up, go search it buddy