Roman Kemp: Why We Need to Talk About Suicide | MTV FACES with Ashley Cain
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- After losing his daughter Azaylia to cancer, Ashley Cain is on a powerful mission to cut straight to the core of grief, creating a safe space for conversations about death.
In this episode, Ashley talks to Roman Kemp, who lost his best friend and colleague, Joe Lyons, to suicide in 2020. Roman discusses his feelings of grief towards the loss of his friend and how it has impacted him in the years since his death. Roman Kemp continues to be a vocal advocate for mental health awareness and suicide prevention, even producing the documentary 'Our Silent Emergency' in 2021. The film sheds light on the mental health crisis affecting young men and encourages conversations about the importance of seeking help.
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The only issue i always have is the whole “i can never forgive them for what they done” well they aren’t asking you to like the choice they made, or accept it. They do whats best for them in that moment. The pain of loosing someone who made that choice is far less than the pain that individual survived each day with until they could no longer.
You cannot compare pain, it is not a competition, we will never know which pain is worse, the pain of losing someone to suicide or the pain that led them to this act, it is not fair to say one is better or worse than the other. Many people I have met have lost more than 1 person in their family to suicide, partly due to the fact others did not feel able to live with the loss. But I agree saying you can never forgive is very harsh and lacks empathy :( it is a very upsetting comment
The focus is first and formost the feelings of the depressed person.
I don’t think the pain is far less infact I had no pain until I associated with someone to help them and then they used and I am sad because I wanted to help them and it’s very painful that pin never existed when I didn’t know them. My fault for taking on the duty of trying to help them everyday.
Thank you for your excellent comment. Your compassion for the individual who has taken their own life tells me you understand why someone would be driven to do this.
Absolutely
Talk to someone until the pain inevitably comes back tbh I’m sick of this whole world
Just come across this. I totally disagree. The pain we go through daily is unbearable, we live just to keep other's from hurting. But what about our pain! I don't know how much longer I can carry on waking up everyday with such dread, such pain, such grief, such unhappiness such pain in our hearts, all through our bodies, in our heads.. Especially when no one understands our pain.. I have no one to talk to to.
I'm just here, surviving until I can't take no more... Im tired...
❤ I know how you feel you are not alone
Only just found this channel. Just read your post. Are you okay? 😢
Ashley is a great person to do this as he allows people to talk, listens to them and understands them
I have been suicidal this year because I have been trying to end a relationship and can't. The thing people don't understand about a suicidal person is that their mind has gone, they are not thinking clearly. They are in a horrifying and terrifying state of mind. The pain is utterly indescribable. Pain don't 'decide' or 'choose' to end their lives, it is the symptom of a deeply depressive and unwell mind.😢
Couldn't have said it better and the pain of feeling like a burden to everyone around you as they think you should just get out of your depressed state is even worse
@lawlawzsiren2276 it really is unimaginable unless you've experienced it. Douglas Bloch videos and books help me greatly I must say.
I think you have to be careful around saying if someone takes their life they simply pass the same pain on because we can never feel what they were feeling and pain is impossible to compare. Also, people who do take their life often truly believe the people around them will be better off without them, a commonality with people who take their life is extremely low self esteem, to the point where they don’t believe they deserve help or to be alive. Restlessness / agitation with depression has been found to be a risk factor for suicide, and I can tell you from my experience that this combination is living torture, it is unbearable, believe me when I say NO ONE who experiences this would not feel suicidal. I’m so lucky I managed to avoid this deadly combo by adapting my life so severely but if I continued to experience that, I would not be around anymore. I lost my mum to suicide last year and have since been under crisis teams, on a heap of meds, my whole life has stood still, I am totally immobilised by pain and my anger towards my mum is incredibly hard to manage. But we will never be able to feel what they were feeling at the time so I think comparing the pain of losing someone to suicide to the pain they were in isn’t possible to be honest, even though is it so hard not to. I often feel soooo angry like my mum doesn’t even know what suicide loss pain feels like, how could she be suffering so much out of the blue when no specific family tragedy happened for example, but I do think what my mum experienced was a loss in a way, and she simply could not see or think clearly. An analogy I like to tell myself, is imagine if a Ukrainian mum had been kidnapped by the Russian soldiers and were torturing her alive, burning her alive, no access to pain relief, and if she was like “please let me die” even if she had children would you expect her to endure this torture? How can anyone? Would you blame her? Call her selfish? Say she is passing on the pain to her children? The truth is people in this situation are experiencing such mental torture, I think unless you could somehow feel exactly what they felt, you can’t make judgements because the level of mental torture my mum was enduring must have been just completely unbearable. PS I hope no one is offended by my analogy, I am of course aware war victims are so helpless in cases, whereas mental health issues there is help available, but it’s just some people don’t feel they can be or deserve help so it makes this impossible.
@Allie You said this so well. We cannot know the mental and emotional anguish someone is feeling to reach a point of taking their life. I do understand also that persons that are suicidal do feel they are a burden to others and that their loved ones would be better off with them. It is painful to hear people describe persons that take their lives as being selfish. I wish our society would be more accepting of person's speaking about their emotions and struggles. This is a difficult world we live in.
@@ww9192thank you so much ❤ agreed ❤
THIS
I’m glad someone said this, couldn’t agree more 👏🏼
Dear Allie, I really appreciate your excellent commentary. My deepest condolences. U sound v v strong. Im sure u have helped so many. If u have time, do read my long & maybe, unconventional take on Suicide. .Bless u.
Most people I know who have taken there own life in the last few years, the people that have been left behind would say I should have done this or I should have done that. Yet they didn’t bother with them at all. I’m now in that place myself and I have no one, 5 years of suffering chronic pain, and I’ve still been there for others, where are people when you need them.. 💔
Sometimes I have suicidal thoughts when I feel depressed or anxious
I've been in such a dark place lately and i can't even put into words how I feel properly. Yet my life feels just severely lost with traumatic internalized pain. Ultimately, its the cause of the last 20 years of personal circumstances that have haunted me. All my struggles (and there are many) physical, relationships, legal, financial. I just have So many lows, and not enough highs to balance out the lows. So i genuinely appreciate candid podcasts like these. Im just not sure they're able to help someone like me. I'm concerned that I might be a ticking time bomb.
Thank you for bravely sharing your struggles with us. It's clear that you're going through a very difficult time, and we want you to know that your feelings are valid and that you don't have to face this alone. We want to reassure you that seeking help is a positive step towards finding relief and healing. We urge you to consider reaching out to a trusted friend, family member, or mental health professional for support. They can offer guidance and assistance tailored to your specific needs.
In addition, we've provided a list of organisations that offer immediate assistance and have trained professionals available to talk to you confidentially: www.mtv.co.uk/legal/qttyil/mtv-charity-helplines
Please take care of yourself and remember that there is hope, even in the darkest moments. You are not alone, and your life is valuable.
Sending you strength, support, and encouragement.
Around the 7:30 the selfish bit,, is what has kept me not doing something so many times, so many.. and it’s mad because I often think it’s selfish of others not letting me do what I want..
I've been dealing with depression for 10 years, thats 1/3 of my life I've dealt with this illness and I'm just tired of it, I wish there was a easier way out but looks like I'm just going to have to OD or something...
Absolutely love these programmes,Ashley you are amazing ❤
I 💯 agree.
Lost my partner 25th August to suicide 😢 I'm constantly thinking could i.. should I have.. if only I did things differently. Absolutely heart broken trying to look for answers I haven't come across one yet 💔
So much talk about mental health rather than chronic physical illness.
I have had depression in the past and it is not even close to my illness of ME/CFS and dysautonomia .
If my illness does not improve I will be forced to su1c1de.
I do not want to d1e but I cannot continue to suffer anymore
Ashley is an great person to do this as he is allows people to talk to them and understands them.
I suffer from PTSD, every day is a struggle I've lost loads of mates most of my family. My PTSD is uncontrollable can't be medically controlled constantly reminded that I've died, reliving it. I can't believe I'm still alive never spoken to anyone I'm supposed to be the strong person. Now I've got my own family that's what's keeping me breathing but don't no how long for keep fighting through.
We’re sorry to hear about your struggles with PTSD. Seeking support, whether from loved ones or professionals, can make a big difference in managing PTSD. Remember, you're not alone in this journey, and there are resources available to help you, such as the organisations listed here: www.mtv.co.uk/helpline
I am waiting for the right time to end it. It's exhausting.
Great podcast love each one that you have done because it’s real life 🧡💎💚
Sometimes, to take your own is a noble thing to do ,I'm sorry if you've got relatives and friends who take it bad and blame themselves, in the end ,if the game isn't worth the candle then it's time to check out.
We're deeply concerned to hear that you're feeling this way. Please know that you are not alone, and support is available. It's understandable to feel overwhelmed by pressure and emotions at times, but there are people who care about you and want to help. We encourage you to reach out to a trusted friend, family member, or mental health professional for support. You can also contact one of the organisations here for immediate assistance: UK: www.mtv.co.uk/legal/qttyil/mtv-charity-helplines International: www.mtv.co.uk/legal/qttyil/mtv-charity-helplines. These organisations have trained professionals available to talk to you confidentially and provide support. Please take care of yourself, and remember that there is hope and help available. You matter, and your life is valuable. Sending you strength and support.
Society doesn't care. Life moves on. Life doesn't revolve around us. Opening Up, talking about it, doesn't solve anything. Doesn't bring peace. It just makes the burden unbearable and makes you a burden unto others. Better keep things to yourself. If you care about the people around you, don't open up.
You are not a burden I am always here to listen 💓😔
I hope you will find those who do care and listen. I know it's a hard world and place to feel comfortable especially as a man to share your feelings. There are people out there who care.
Whilst it’s true the world doesn’t revolve around one person. But one individual may be someone else’s whole world.
If my brother or dad died by suicide I would be forever changed as they are my best friends.
By opening up you help other people realise suicidal feelings are normal. The pain we experience can be used to help other struggle less.
You are not a burden and if you open up you may save someone else’s life.
@@allieallthewayHarsh truth is, ppl don’t care, best take accountability of everything n move on up to fight for the best of what u have.
Trust me they burden thing can send you to early grave faster so hard they can't understand the pain!
My brother was 12 years old and died from meningitis he was ill for weeks he was ill one weekend rushed to hospital and died the same weekend I don’t understand how my mum is so strong it’s ruined my life as a brother I can’t even say anymore it’s fukwd
I took my first od at 12 I was sa at 3-4 I get people think it’s selfish but to me it’s the bravest step you can take but from all the attempts I survived and wouldn’t do it again because of my mum but if she wasn’t here I’d peacefully go life is not a gift to some
When every day recalls loss, of children, grandchildren, after years of suffereing, and yet ones own life drags on ,how can we find the courage.?we dont want to cause grief but our grief is unbearable. Every hour torment.Hiding our feelings, all the time. Encouraging others to fulfill their lives?Too hard?
I’ve been suicidal since I was six years old. No, this is not a typo. I have actually been suicidal since I was six years old. I’ve been suicidal all my life since. I can’t imagine life without it. The pain is unbearable. No one cares. No one listens. It’s pointless. I spent basically my whole life wanting to die. How can I not? Everyone says it’s selfish to commit suicide. However, isn’t it selfish to make someone live in unbearable pain and agony just so you don’t feel the pain?
I’m grateful for the life I’ve had but I’ve ultimately come to the decision it’s time to go
I have been thinking about that too mate. I don't want to do it but I feel like it's gonna happen anytime soon. I'm 23. 24 this October and I don't feel like I'm gonna make it till 30. Hope you're well mate. Just sharing my experience.
@@callum5633 thanks for sharing your experience man I’m 23 too and I really hope you’re still here when you’re 30 and I hope by that point you’ll have everything going right for you I’m really rooting for you dude I hope you turn to your friends and family because they’ll need you by their side sending love man ❤️
I simply cannot take any more pressure or feeling the way I do I genuinely do not want to be hear any more
Same. Hope you're still here though
I don't understand how someone that has been taking antidepressants since he was 15 could believe that he was very strong mentally.
Mostly we ( ok me ) are having ego problems and split minds. Health concerns weighing us down often then something maybe emotional in my case involving shame with someone tips us over.. and my life is shameful enough with avoidant disorder and social anxiety .. self sabotage etc..
I find talking to open ai chat bot very useful. I know a lot of psychology anyway and my mental disorders. I explain my situations and ai gives a thorough breakdown of info i need to print for drs or government and benefits etc.
And I got no idea where to let all this out I'm 17 and I feel like I've not got anything to keep me going anymore
We're deeply concerned to hear that you're feeling this way. Please know that you are not alone, and support is available. It's understandable to feel overwhelmed by pressure and emotions, but there are people who care about you and want to help. We encourage you to reach out to a trusted friend, family member, or mental health professional for support. You can also contact one of the organisations here for for immediate assistance: www.mtv.co.uk/legal/qttyil/mtv-charity-helplines
These organisations have trained professionals available to talk to you confidentially and provide support. Please take care of yourself, and remember that there is hope and help available. You matter, and your life is valuable. Sending you strength and support
Try to show sympathy, even just by a look of understanding.
Yeah but it comes down to money with you guy put into the public eye! Try living with no one and having to keep going!
Roman Kemp is set to inherit royalties for the entire discography of Spandau Ballet, WHAM, and George michaels solo discography. He was born safe , he is promised safety, and he will never experience anything short of security. He has NO idea.
BOMBACLATTT PICKLE!!!
Jesus loves you :)
Any big battys?
Im considering it, thinks are bad..im trying to make my mind up
We're deeply concerned to hear that you're feeling this way. Please know that you are not alone, and support is available. It's understandable to feel overwhelmed by pressure and emotions at times, but there are people who care about you and want to help. We encourage you to reach out to a trusted friend, family member, or mental health professional for support. You can also contact one of the organisations here for immediate assistance: UK: www.mtv.co.uk/legal/qttyil/mtv-charity-helplines International: www.mtv.co.uk/legal/qttyil/mtv-charity-helplines. These organisations have trained professionals available to talk to you confidentially and provide support. Please take care of yourself, and remember that there is hope and help available. You matter, and your life is valuable. Sending you strength and support.
THAT WAS AMAZING! Thank you Roman and Ashley!