Fixing Your Unprofitable Woodworking Business
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your mom was here
@@SpencleyDesignCo awe awesome. Child and understood. Sub you from early on brother with the molds on the patio. You’re losing it. No clue if you can see thanks sent or patreon but I do think this platform is great for creators to showcase their abilities (which you have) and engage with people. It’s okay to take a sponsor etc but your titles went away from woodworking. Fact.
I along with many others have called out the clickbait and it went worse. You did a video about how your views were cut etc and titled this killed 50% of my business. Probably one of the most viewed videos, it was honest on why and you had valid points in there, 100%. However that was your subs, me included, rushing to see what happened which I’m sure the algorithm picked up and you got new people watching. If you’re really that think headed the TL;DR for you is sell products, showcase the amazing work you can do, and stop with titles that are not reflective of your abilities - they take away from your craftsmanship abilities, which you have.
I wish you nothing but the best. Sounds like my mom was there and I’m sure she already told you this already. Mom and I will continue to check in and look for the talent we know you have and the world needs to see.
You make more money working on a McDonald's
I used to own a cafe on a small industrial estate in the UK. Most of my customers were regulars. A new lady came in one day and we got talking. She and her husband had rented a small unit on the estate. They had recently moved from South Africa. Her husband was a joiner and had started a small business producing high-quality furniture. I asked how it was going. She told me that they hadn't sold anything yet as her husband was making some items to display his skills. Every time I asked how business was going, I got the same reply. The husband was making stuff but not selling it. His wife seemed a pleasant enough lady, but she didn't come across as a businesswoman.
After a few months, the lady stopped coming in, and the business closed down. I doubt if they got one sale. I guess the guy made good furniture. I don't know since I never saw any of it. But even if he made the best furniture in the world, it didn't do him any good, because he had no idea how to sell it. If you're no good at selling and you haven't got anyone to sell for you, don't start a business. You're going to fail. Learn to sell before you start. You'll save yourself a lot of money, heartache, and regret.
Never say "fun hobby", because that means "free" to anyone listening to you.
Facts
Yeah. And don't say you make art, either, for the same reason. You are a professional furniture craftsman/woman/person, producing exquisite, one-of-a-kind, furniture pieces for the discerning buyer. (Or something like that.)
yup facts, next thing you know you will be trimming out their house
Yep, and everyone and their brother shows you how to do it yourself on TH-cam!@@tomhargreaves8820
I used to make a piece, drive to all the furniture stores in town until I found someone who would talk to me, and in the conversation I would show them my piece, ask "if my piece is not of interest, and I could make any piece of furniture, which one would you like"? At this point they would tell me what that was, would tell me what wholesale price they would pay, what wood, what finish, size etc. With all that information, I would go back to my shop and make this piece with my touches, make excellent photos and price it at where I would make a good profit. Information is power.
Love the honesty and the straight forward attitude. Great job.
I actually just started a run of cutting boards for the holidays and they're selling much faster than I can make them. I guess if it funds my home furniture builds, more power to those cutting boards... some sacrifices must be made lol
Happy to see your growth and these are good tips! Definitely taking more photos than needed at different angles and outdoors when possible has been helpful for me. 👍
40+ years in business, 5 star rated, #1 rated yacht carpenter in NY and have never advertised untill last year. Spent $1200 on Google ads and got 0 jobs. I've made $2600 this year! That was my weekly income. Things are going to get worse. Prepare, learn other skills, pay down dept, stay away from unnecessary expenses. Good luck everybody. Google - who is the best yacht carpenter in New York? Scroll down past the ads.. You will see I'm not bull-shitting you.
That power supply you got how long you think it would take for it to go down with the fridgerator and a TV and a light going
I can't belive people don't know this!
And then there are the old retired guys that have been three times around the block and know lots of businesses such as their doctors' office and notice that they need a special corner table in their waiting room, and a simple question to the doctor like "If you had a corner table in your waiting room, what kind of wood tone would you think would please you most?" and then make it for him and tell him it's his and if he would like to donate to your wood finishing fund go ahead, but it's a gift because you like doing this kind of work. It's likely he will want other stuff in his office. Doctors know other doctors and stuff like that - and they have money! A retired old guy's thoughts.
Cheers
That’s a good idea, if you can afford to donate, make sure it’s in a market that can commission more from you.
I noticed the block "O" on your shirt, and I wanted to let you know that you have a viewer that framed the large block "O" on the ceiling of the ballroom in the student union center. Also, I have walked back and forth through the tunnel at the shoe many times while working on the stadium.
Touché on the Jackery product placement!! 😁
There are some TH-camrs who have incredible amounts of extremely expensive tools, machinery and wood that can’t compete with a Boy Scout looking to complete a project to earn a badge. Everyone has different skills and talents but those who have few seem to be best at pitching tools.
I have sold several items. I had 2 yard sales and i moved serval things i made. Exposure is key. Going to my first craft fair in 2 weeks
Not to be a contrarian - I sort by Average Customer Review first. Sometimes it doesn't work, but quality is important in woodworking. Ask my missing finger.....
what kind of wood is on your walls? love it
I noticed the Carvex jigsaw. Did you do a video about it and I missed it?
Great tip for selling your work. People will definitely pay more for items that are unique or special.
How do you ship furniture and stay profitable, or is it local pick up only?
Cheese!! Love your channel thank you for putting wonderful content out for us to consume
Did you ditch the rigid table saw for a Harvey?
Seems so. If I'm not mistaken, it's the 2 hp (maybe 3hp?) with the router table extension and TiN coating. Great saw I'd say! For all completely honest disclosure I own the same one...
@@wildpat03 would have to be the 2hp model since Eric has pointed out he can't change the electrical breaker in his garage apartment and the 3hp model is a 240v tool. I've been torn between the 4hp Harvey and the 5hp 40th anniversary edition Grizzly. The $500 freight charge on the Harvey is hard to eat when I can drive 2 hours and pick up the Grizzly in person.
@@Sauron227 You're right, it must be the 2hp then. As for the choice between the Harvey 4hp and the GrizzLy you mentioned, that's a very, very hard decision to make... Freight included and without taxes, there is quite a bit of difference in cost. Good luck!
@@wildpat03 yeah I have the 2HP and had to upgrade my outlet and breaker to 15a. I believe he said he has 15a.
It’s a no decision when a company gives it to you. Just makes it more expensive for the rest of us non You tubers that are in the market for a tool. That is why I no longer subscribe or push like on videos anymore unless I really like their content.
You forgot one. Maybe you're not selling anything because your work is crap. Where I live there are a lot of carpenters and because of this prices are very low. And because prices are low their work is crap. My neighbor saw some of the work I did at my house and asked me to refurb a dresser she had. I declined because I told her she could buy new for less than what I would charge. She accepted my price because of the poor quality of the work around here. She was thrilled with the work and had me build new cabinets for an addition to her house that was under construction. Now I have contracts for outfitting her two restaurants and other customers calling. I don't negotiate on price because I don't need to do this to make a living. Makes it a lot easier to do good work.
So many FANTASTIC talking points Eric!! BESTEST one is the lead way into your sponsorship!! I mean it. So well transitioned Bud. Hoping all is well, Dirty Jersey out!!
Is your Table saw made of Brass.
I would never sell to anyone close to me, especially family because they will expect discount if not free furniture and leave you massively out of pocket
For the Jackery sg 2000 plus can you still run your equipment like the (table saw) without the extra battery pack?
Anybody that buys a jackafry or bleu eddy to power things when what you need is a decent battery and the right inverter which actually costs less money
Can we talk about that table saw and why it's gold?
It’s a Harvey Alpha series that has a special coating (can’t think of it off the top of my head) it is suppose to help prevent rust. Saw a YTuber that had it flaking off on his, but other then that have no heard any other bad reviews.
Nice tips!!
Good Stuff!
Im wondering where people think that electric from their outlets come from. Its more than likely not from clean energy so those batteries are not clean energy.
#1 Have a primary job that pays the bills and gives you enough extra money to buy woodworking tools.
#2 Enjoy woodworking as a hobby and sell stuff when you can.
I tried selling some stuff but then...
I realized I was making crap.
Clickbait.
Rebuttal to you top 5
1. You say people don’t know you’re a woodworker - I don’t know you’re one with your titles.
2. Missed what it was
3. Your photos are crummy - have you reviewed your thumbnails and how they compare to your title and content?
4 and 5 never called out specifically but I assume is unique variety and pricing.
The hidden number 6 is if you stuff doesn’t sell make videos that look like build content by the thumbnail, have an even more clickbait title, say you’ll list 5 items, start to and then don’t….BUT be sure try and slip in your website, affiliate links, and paid promotional items under the disguise of woodworking and turn more of a profit by folks clicking the links!! Got it!
Are you ever going to replace the E in design on your sign? Details out of place like that really bug me. It's like the business that used to be across the street from me. Every day I'd see their sign with awful kerning and the font they chose that had all the letters in slightly different styles. The only thing they could have done worse would have been to use Comic Sans.
It's a dream that penniless young boys have, and then they grow up! (maybe!)
Its hard to make a living you SKILL PERIOD there no short cut or gimmick .That means knowing your market the real money is in built ins .Slick video well done but your shop is to small to make it in any commercial or residential the problem its so expensive to have large shop and that why true custom and cabinet makers are dying .
First!!! Well done as always!
You need to grow the right kind of customer. Family and friends and even some friends of friends do not make for well paying customers mostly. Don't start there. You will create a problem for your business.
I post all the time on FB, but sadly no major response.
These click bait titles are killing me smalls. I make a living as a woodworker soooooo...
Thats awesome, good luck to you. I’m sure its a mad hustle.
@@jbfam7208 mad hard work brother. Hopefully it pans out.
Is it normal for Eric to go a month without any videos?
Product placement much? 😂
First of all build things people NEED not things that people may or may not like. Demand is the success of life. No millionaire ever started with something people didn’t NEED.
Debeers. No one NEEDS a diamond.
MUSK, no one needs an electric fire bomb.
Because ya think we NEED FalseBook and Tweeder???
@@wildpat03Facebook started out as a recognition of a need, or at least a niche to be filled. I remember when you had to list what college you were attending to actually have a profile. The need, I guess, would be an easy way to network and stay in easy contact with your classmates. It initially started as a "rate my looks" site for Harvard students.
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I really appreciate this video. I’m interested in starting a wood working business but know very little on creating projects, how did you learn all the joinery and details as such?
There is that thing, ya know, called books... And practice, practice, practice.
Basically start building stuff making mistakes and reading, learning; then you will get to the point of building stuff without making mistakes.
Making the stuff is part innate ability, part acquiring skills, part vision; selling it is another discipline entirely and probably 75% in importance while maybe 15% of the time, and maybe 50% of the work.
Worst clickbait titles and most aggravating product placements among TH-cam makers
What do you do when your family and friends don’t care?
Want to go broke? Build one item at a time. Build quickly in large lots, and keep expenses low. Automate.
Want to ruin a fun hobby? Go full-time as a business with schedules and demands.
ALOT of the problem is all the woodworking groups I see, everyone gets on the train of what's popular and then market is over saturated, it is lack of imagination, and beginners flooding the market, and most I see is trying to get at least 100 dollars a hour...I'm just like come on man...first off 100 bucks an hour is rare in any field lol...just use common sense people....
Comment algorithm compliance
Inception!!!
Woodworker 😢 correction personal marketing, alot of people don't realize how many garage wood workers there are. You need to aggressivly Market or look into a different income stream. Cough mechanic, welder etc
Nevermind. LOL
Please stop the switching angles of camera 😂
Care bare stare.
Those office cut scenes ruin your videos
Wow, I don't know why I watch this joker
"Promo sm" 😘