My Tips To Making THOUSANDS As A Woodworker!
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- After years of requests, here are 10 Tips to Make More Money Woodworking!
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Great video! Rising tides lift all ships for sure!! There is PLENTY of money out there for disciplined and hard-working Makers to build a business they can love!
The working in volume tip was something I had to learn the hard way. I did so many low cost farmhouse desk in the beginning, I got super burned out and almost quit. After I finally got fed up and tried to start doing things I actually liked and started to love it again. That’s the only way I’ll do it for now on. Plus if your passionate about the project you’re working on, it’ll show and the customer won’t regret paying you for it.
Couldn't agree more Brandon!
I keep finding it interesting that so many content creators are now pushing classes on how to make money woodworking. The reality is that it's probably one of the hardest businesses to make a living in, and I will tell you why. First of all it takes a lot of skill, experience, and tooling. Once, you get to that point now you are competing against someone in their garage that thinks they're a skilled craftsperson, when in reality they just work for cheap and do a terrible job that cheapens what skilled people do. Many people over the years have told me that I am lucky that I am a professional woodworker, and in some regards I am, But at the same Time I am aware that you will never get rich being a woodworker, people do not value your time and skill like they should.
Adam, I completely agree here. But I do think you have to take the proper steps to help yourself, help yourself. I went from a garage and worked my way to where I am today, and in those 9 years I wanted to be able yo help others who also want to take that journey. It’s not easy, and requires a lot of skill as you said. I appreciate your input and your wisdom my friend!
I think when people say this, they aren’t focusing enough on the business aspects of it. I used to say it, until I focused and marketed towards the people I wanted to work with. There are tons of people who are looking for quality and willing to pay. Also consider not limiting yourself to local markets. Being able to ship will open up the doors to more quality clients also.
@@John_Malecki yes you do have to take the steps, and its good that you are willing to teach people, personally I haven't been, willing, since the pandemic there are a whole bunch of people that have been working out of their garage and thinking they're going to strike it rich gluing wood together and making cutting boards and other things that take no skill. You have the personality too succeed, I could teach you some better stack laminating techniques so your stuff stops breaking off when you carve it.
@@naptownplaya32 I have plenty of quality clients, and make a fair living at what I do, I have sold in galleries and directly to home owners. You're right that they are tons of people that want quality but most don't understand the difference and will go with the guy down the street working for free that doesn't know what he's doing. I am just saying that there are so many that offer courses in how to make money doing this, when in reality the first thing you need to do is learn the skills of the craft and how to do it right. Then worry about the business end of it.
I see your point here, but and i dive into this in the course, but the intent is to help those who want to sell and grow a business period. I at no point say its easy, or going to make you rich. Quality craftsman ship is something i consider to be obvious, if you want a successful business. I only sell goods I think are built to the highest standard I am capable of. You mentioned others who offer courses about making money woodworking, I have seen 0 of these and would love to check them out if you could point me in the right direction . Also, really love your contribution to the comments here @Adam super grateful!
I’ve never written this under any of your videos before but You are literally the first person who inspired me to start the woodworking journey. I watched one of your videos 18months on my 32nd birthday. Went out that day and bought myself a 7 1/4” circular saw. The rest is history as they say!
Man i absolutely love hearing this! Congrats on taking the leap and i hope you're loving the journey!
Thanks John! I’ve been in construction for a long time, doing what I love on weekends. This might be the push I need!
I've never wanted to work for anyone in my entire life, but I'd get freaking squirrelly to work for John
Sounds like great tips for someone wanting a business, personally I watched the whole video just to look at my favorite tool wall on the web. 😀 Love love love it .
Thanks John , your comments are true for any craft business
One of the best, down to earth videos on the business of woodworking! Thanks John!
Man thanks so much for posting this. I cannot tell you how much of it spoke straight to me and it couldn’t be at a more perfect time in my woodworking journey. Thanks for the inspiration and all this wisdom❤️🙏🙏🙏
Great video! Really enjoyed watching it. Keep up the awesome work!
Great video. Just the push and realignment I needed at the right time. Love all the cony, please keep it up.
10/10 tips! #3 is such a professional tip
Super solid video man! Arguably the most value content hits at 16:18. Life is hard, get to work. Be the hero or your story, not the victim.
Best tips I’ve heard anyone publicly say in the past 15years of being in business. Kudos! 🍻
As someone quitting my 9-5 in 2 weeks to run my woodworking business full time...the timing of this video was perfect, thanks John!
Hell ya Markis, congrats
Living the dream I can't wait till my wife is done with school to open a hotrod shop with a few of my boys from high-school we always talked about it but 17 years later it's so close I can taste it.
Whats your insta or socials link?
I’ve watched a few videos like this but this was definitely one of the best. Thanks for sharing.
Super helpful video! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks John, great video. Wish I would have had access to this information about 15 years ago when I was a bit younger.
Thank you John all good info!!
John, great info brother. I appreciate the tips. Been in the contracting business for 11 years now locally to you, and have not used these strategies. Which has shown that I work in and not on my business. I am now starting another business doing leathercraft and will definitely take these items to heart and implement them. I also have never used any kind of social media to my benefit thus far. I don't know if I'm too afraid or what, but it's there for the taking. Thanks again buddy.
Looking forward to seeing you crush it Joe!
Awesome vid!!…was really informative…love the passion and love it more you are passing it on.God bless!!
I do enjoy all your videos, fun, and informative. But this one knocked it out of the park. I learnt quite a bit. Thank you. Best wishes!
Love your work John.
me and my brother are teens and we have been selling cutting boards for a couple months now and now we are trying to get into river tables and right now we are doing a maple river table. thanks for the great tips
This looks like a cry for help to a “wrestling “ coach
I've been watching you're videos for months now and learn a lot out of your videos. It's grown my passion towards woodworking. It's a bit difficult for me to actually start projects as I don't have any tools or materials or the money or space to start. It's been in my head for a long time to eventually start a local business. I've been looking for somewhere similar to your workshop in the UK but it's difficult to find somewhere close for someone who doesn't drive.
Trying to get my foot in the door and hitting countless obstacles on the way but I will keep pushing with the motivation of your videos
Dominik, i would try to see if there are any local clubs in your area you can maybe take some classes and start to learn some skills before diving into buying tools if thats an obstacle. You can uber , taxi, or get a ride from a friend. Keep pushing towards your dreams and they'll get closer!
Good advice for any business tbh, thanks John
You're welcome Terry!
Older video but I have to comment. I just started watching your videos and love them. I've been in the military for 17 years, just built 2 boats from scratch last 2 years, play with dead wood for outdoor furniture, and have to say that you have inspired me to try and take this up a notch. Do you mind if I use some of your ideas in building certain things and try to sell a couple? I want to build them just to do it, but will have no use for them myself.
I'm trying brother, just getting started, I normally build projects that I think are badass, but have had a few people reach out for custom pieces. The hardest part for me is the advertising and reaching more eyes in my area. Figuring out social media and doing craft shows/markets is something I'm also going to try. I have a full time job in masonry, but I sincerely love working with wood, metal, antlers, everything that isn't bricks, blocks and stones creating cool stuff that can furnish and decorate the house that I already know how to build😆
Keep the passion going, i would suggest perhaps building things a little less specific to your eye, maybe a bit more towards the general public to start picking up clients. Also, share on social, its Free and easy. Showcase those bad ass projects and stay inspired!
I’ve been a furniture maker in England for 16 years, self employed for 6, and am now taking the plunge into starting my own business. I’m constantly watching videos looking to evolve and better myself, your videos have been a great help, and this video in party has been invaluable in helping me move foreword and progress. Thank you john
I know this is months late, but I’m about to be on my second year starting woodworking, pretty much year 1 has been spent building and learning the nuances of the craft and making some small sales as well as well as investing in tools. Would you say focusing on local community market and sales is easier or better than doing more online via social media? I just prefer local but I don’t know if the money can be had.
@@thegrayjedi5202 I’d say social media and word of mouth are the mains ways to advertise these days, there’s plenty of ways to advertise locally, like specific Facebook groups and neighbourhood websites. Unfortunately with woodworking, the better money is in the fitted stuff, and you gotta travel to where the work is needed. Good luck with everything
This isn’t the video I wanted, but the video I needed! Thanks for your Tips!
Great video John been missing your squirlyneas videos. Can't wait for more. Thanks for the tips and tricks and advice in process setting up so gonna take allot these and put them to use thanks. 🏴👍 Wish I could afford this course but unfortunately 😥 me starting this is through me losing my job and money is really tight right now so I'll just keep taking as much info off your videos so keep posting them. Thanks for being awesome though by the way. 🤑
Your videos have already turned my garage hobby into a business, you guys are killin' it! I just signed up, so let's go!!
Hell yes Arnie! Love hearing that
Great video. Those are great points for life in general and anyone in any job as an employee or the business owner. As a hobbyists wood worker the point about networking is a great idea, just so I will know who in my area can help me with some of my bigger projects.
A good think is having the same supliers, its a really good network to have
John great stuff thank you for all the wisdom I will be doing craft to corse
That's a very helpful and very informative useful video today john and the boys. That's very nice thank you. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friends. Fab On. Weld On. Keep making. Stay squirrely. God bless.
Thanks brother! Love the positive encouragement
@@John_Malecki your very welcome. I am a beginner Blacksmith /Maker in Michigan.
Love the video, and the advice. We are trying to move from the social media "show how to do it" to the build and sell to do what you did, make some cash! LOL And that is an exciting journey, to say the least. So love all the advice I can get. I found that networking with people also out of your niche and talking to other makers also helps a lot. Kind of another aspect of your networking. We are looking at doing trade shows, and I have started learning what works and what doesn't at different shows from the vendors. I will tell you what has changed my concepts on what to build, when to build, and what makes these people successful. Would love to see you make more videos like this one. It great video, and a great channel!
I’m really surprised this doesn’t have more views; good advice from a great craftsman. Thank you sir- bout to go punch today in the face! I come from an electrical background and have been recently finding my niche in LED signs and custom lighting to scratch my woodworking/creative itch while also hustling my electrical services to keep growing towards my business goals! Thanks for inspiring me to be profitable and authentic.
Thank you for this video. I've found myself pivoting recently because I'm not 100% happy/engaged with where I've been at with woodworking.
Great video and love all of your content. I am brand new into this, still in the phase of building my shop. Does your course go over scaling? If not what do you suggest when it comes to starting to scale ones business?
Another good group to network with that you wouldn't normally think of - Real estate agents. They show houses to potential buyers day in and day out, and a lot of those buyers are looking to either buy or build unique pieces for their new homes.
This is a great tip!
Really good tips… thanks so much…,really needed this…
I'm finding it hard to just get started... Even just getting it to the hobby stage. I love joinery and the industrial style. I work as a CAD Technician so I've designed a few different styles of tables, desk, TV stands etc... Just general furniture but with a full time job and no clear path, I'm stuck
Fantastic video though, really informative
Great stuff and spot on regarding business strategy. I have my own consulting practice for small- medium sized businesses and the topics you covered here a great starters for a fledgling business. I too, have a woodworking business which started as a hobby, but have turned into a good practice. I diversified a bit differently lol. Great stuff!
Love it gary! Thats awesome
Teaching is one of the greatest self achievement. As a owner operator, I do try to help newer businesses in the pool industry. Not all listen or take my advice but the ones that do makes me feel whole. Also as they grow they seem to share there secrets with me
I was actually looking for ways to add value to my customers on my new brand focused on workstations and then I found a local company offering woodworking and metalworking courses and ended up here. It's rare you can find someone provide so much value and insight based on true mastery of their craft rather than just trying to get out content and get more views
Great video
great tips
I blame John for the reason I have $10s of thousands of dollars of tools I purchased over the last 2 years for me to build free cool stuff for friends and family. 😂 jokes aside, he is correct. And his advice applies to everything and everywhere. The one thing he touched on but didn’t speak enough about, is building everyone around you. I’ve built up handfuls of individuals to either be their own business owner, or give them a chance at a career. And my effort of taking food off of my table, so they had food on there’s, has built me greater than imaginable in my successes. I have subcontractors that give me friend prices, and employees that beat me to work everyday, and seem to want to stay later than me by the end of the day as well. It’s a genuinely great feeling.
You know I love this, your so honest and give out genuinely great advice. In 2018 I pushed the reset button on my life and decided to move 5 hours away down country.. just quit and packed up shop overnight totally unsure as to what my next chapter in life was but I had an honest womens love and a few hundred In my back pocket... on the journey down south me and the Mrs was talking about what the hell I'm going to do for a job!? I didn't have a clue.. 28 years old worked in factory's all my life.. then she cracked a joke "you should become a woodworker then you can make us furniture" fast forward to 2022.. I'm now working for a yatch company making furniture.
I had no clue that staying up all night watching carpentry videos would lead to a career with great pay, but I always believed even through the hard times.
Love this Andrew! Thank you for sharing and keep crushing it my friend! This is awesome! Chase those dreams
Great movie! Greetings from Poland 🇵🇱 ❤
I wish the company that i used to work for would have actuly watched/ listended to this video(shared it to em). I did all the epoxy, metal work, millyard maintenance, and bout 75% of the design work at their company. I ended up quiting due to very low and inconsistent pay. A year after i left they shut down the furniture side of the business. Every point you brought up was stuff i tried to bring their attention to.
Damn. That was useful. Thank you.
Been watching you for awhile and your passion for what you do can be seen through your craft and videos. Love your point about diversity in your income. So many different avenues you can take. The point goes hand in hand with the quality over quantity and relationships with builders. One avenue my small company bids on is finish carpentry. Built-ins, crown, casing, or base are all great streams of income. Every approach to a business needs proper deployment. Proper feedback loops provide learning and innovative thinking to drive results.
Great advice
Would love to see a video on growing your social as a maker
Thanks for sharing! This could fall under tips #2 or #4
Plan for success!!
Think about the next steps you need to take before your clients are hungry for more. Strategize how you can scale your business in manageable sections, father experience says scaling all parts of the business at once is next to impossible. Write the things that are easy and hard to scale and be prepared to scale the right areas of the business first.
This is some good stuff Cory, you cant scale everything at once, even if you feel like you can. You have to take it in steps and work in segments!
Love THIS video
John, thank you for these tips. I own a woodworking business in Seattle, WA. Could you possibly do an intermediate video on how to grow and diversify your business? Not just info for beginners? Appreciate it 🙏
We dive into that in the course, a lot of stuff starts to get specific and we dive into both diversity and general business tactics
Also, if we get in with the early bird, does the discount apply for the lifetime of the monthly subscription or is it just applied to the first month?
New sub! Spitting straight facts! Yuns…Pitt or penn state fan?
Thanks for putting the logo for "Craft to Career" on the video, because I definitely thought you said "Crap to Career" LMAO
Thank you 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
That Black Rifle Coffee Company table looks cool, is that spent brass in the epoxy?
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Tip #3 goes a long way in customer relations. Back home in Louisiana we call it Lagniappe.
I love that Nemo!
Thanks, i'm trying to focus on doors and panels. I'm in the process of getting an approved hurricane rated core for entry doors from the county. People will spend a lot on an entry door but it has to up to the new hurricane codes in Florida. They won't even give people the option to put shutters on it. They're kinda of jerks.
Yea man that sounds like a tough niche market, but keep trying to understand the marketplace the best you can and you'll start to see the dial move in the right direction.
Ah man, this video comes at such a pivotal time for me.. And I'm happy to see I'm already on the right track.
I'm in the process of selling the business I've been running for 6 years, and leaping headlong into ramping up the side hustle which is a wood shop/maker based business - and a VERY niche one at that: cat furniture (scratching posts, cat trees, wall-mounted perches, third party sh!tty cat tree repairs/upgrades, etc). Without even really trying, I attract new clients via word of mouth and a social media presence (virtual catalog). Adding value is definitely a MAJOR part of my process.
My local competition is mostly casual semi-retired people, and they tend not to do custom work nor do they have the attention to detail that I seem to possess. AND I decided to start a TH-cam channel inspired by the likes of John Malecki, Nick Zametti, Shop Nation, and Lincoln Street Woodworks channels out there. Love the content you all put out, and I've REALLY enjoyed plugging away at video editing (something I had experience with many years ago).
Hell ya Rob, you arent kidding. That is super Niche, but i love it!
@@John_Malecki I forgot to mention the cat rooms. I've had one or two requests to do up a whole spare bedroom as a cat room. But the secret weapon will be the live edge coffee tables and end tables, where the base will be a cat feature (hideout). I'm not seeing anyone doing this, at least nowhere near where I live. And based on past sales of cat trees, my "territory" is hundreds of miles around me. When I properly market this business, I'm going to be damn busy. Shit's gonna get squirrely!
Alrighty John, I've been watching you for a while and I just now notices....For the love of god, where to I get those Plane Tote Hangers?!!!!?!?!?!
Does anyone else miss the one sheet one board challenge? Or the shop cooking?
is it practical to try to set up a new business at this time?
Excellent work, just found your channel, where are y’all located?
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, very informative. The one thing I think you forgot to mention is putting away a percentage of profits into a retirement acct. For me, I have a good pension and 401k, but most entrepreneurs do not.
Yea, saving money early is great advice. I would say its hard early, I always look to re-invest when it comes to business's
What are your thoughts on going small to start building funds to expand your tools/shop while keeping large projects in mind and trying to sprinkle those in to build expertise while making money cranking out small easy to make/ship items? Is there any history you’ve seen of people having trouble shifting away from small items?
Billy, If you're building funds i dont hate the idea of building whatever you can to make some money, Just make sure you're doing it correctly and the business is actually making money. If you're not selling custom commissions, then i would focus on small goods to build funds and solicit the custom work. That way you're not holding large amounts of overhead and sinking money into potential over actual revenue generating products. You can always move away from small goods, but have a strategy to make sure those are profitable and dont lose your passion for your work because everything feels like groundhogs day
Love it, thank you, you’re one of the first woodworkers I started following years ago and have learned/gained so much from your videos!
Furniture for me and my household. Cutting boards and blanket ladders for the people outside my door.
Why? I build wine cabinets and giant cabinets that will last 100 years, that are bulletproof, and cost over $1000 in material alone (white oak). And, people are not trying to buy that. They say Ashley Furniture charges $1500 for an entire set, why would I buy your stuff. And, well, within 10 years, they'll start finding out.
John, how do you know when it’s time to go full time? I work a full time 9-5 in banking and lead worship at a church one Sunday. Woodworking started as a hobby but quickly turned into job #3. Now I am turning away business and have a wait list that is a few months deep. Thanks.
Walking away from a full time gig is something that will never be easy, the comfort and consistency is hard to replicate. I would say, think of it this way. If you had all the time you spend on these "other jobs" back, how much money would you be able to produce in your woodworking business. From that, would you be able to make enough to sustain your current lifestyle ? If you could put a fraction of that time to growing the business, where do you think it would take you ?
How do you get your first few leads?
Love your content! I’m interested in the DIY level course. Been trying to figure out “what I’m doing wrong.” Your course might help. It looks like the course is an hour and a half with 36 videos. So each video is only an average of 2.5 minutes?
3-5 minutes, some videos are longer some are shorter and some are just for set up.
Tip 11: Get Squirrelly
John, I have heard before that a lot of people find woodworking as a great hobby. As soon as those people turn it into a business, they lose the love they had for the trade. Any tips on how to not go down that path?
Hey! Why is Jocko's guitar still in your shop?
I like the "quality over quantity" tip and that is where I want to be. That said, I am just getting started and plan on using the "quantity" of smaller items as a way of building my knowledge & skills so that when someone does hire me to build a large custom item I will be worthy of the task. I also have the advantage of a full-time job with a good salary so I have the luxury of working my way up to bigger and better things without worrying much about making larger margins right away with my woodworking side-hustle. Thank you for this video - They are all excellent tips!
Long term I plan on building a solid side-hustle that will add income & enjoyment to my retirement eight or ten years from now. I figure if I start building toward that now I'll be in good shape when the time comes. :-)
Love this my friend, i think trying to learn on your clients dime is a huge addition to a business in this regard too!
If you sign up for the Pro level, and cancel later, do you still have lifetime access to the materials or would you have to purchase the DIY package to gain access to the course?
As long as you are a member for 2 months prior to leaving then yes!
When i heard you say “Yuns” i knew, This guy is a fellow Pennsylvanian. lol
Find a product which can be made quickly, low cost, and find a retail reseller to sell and distribute your products.
So with the craft to career, the diy level vs the pro level, you don’t get the new content that is added to the course or the bi - weekly group coaching?
DIY is lifetime access to just the course as it is today. The bonus section is for subscription members and your discount will apply for as long as you’re part of the community!
@@John_Malecki if you sign up for the Pro level, and cancel later, do you still have lifetime access to the materials or would you have to purchase the DIY package to gain access to the course?
Good Advise. I'm a master auto tech, I used to take on side work and it burnt me out and people constantly would ask me to do one thing and when they dropped the car off there would be a list of can you also check this and that out. And after working all day and then working on these piles of junk i lost interest in the autmotive industry i just do it to pay the bills, i'm slowly getting into woodworking as a hobby and maybe one day ill expand and sell things that i make. for now it will be a hobby that ill enjoy.
Yea Dave, I when you lost the passion and enthusiasm for what you're doing it makes it hard to to want to grind it out every day! keep crushing it and best of luck with your woodworking hobby!
Pepperdine MBA here. I am no longer in the workforce( long story) Excellent information. My doing business as was a failure. Part of my problem was my clientele was guitar players. Highly skilled, but poor as a church mouse. I couldn't even get cost of materials. They are as bad as helicopter pilots in that regard. Spend everything they ever make because they don't know how not to. I am very happy that you are a success and are willing to share your experience with others. Rock on John, and I am officially jealous of your shop. I was working out of my garage.
I worked out of garages for years, I have been there brother! Maybe widen your skills to adapt to a market with more expendable income. Custom guitars can be a good gig, but is hard to break into unless you can get your guitars into the hands of someone famous. If you have the time and ability, build someone who has a good social following a sick guitar, and gift it to them!
@@John_Malecki Hi John, My current situation is that I will be 70 years old in July, and I am currently in a motel in Sylmar CA. in Veterans Administration transitional housing. I thank God for that, because without the VA I would be in the back seat of my car on a side street somewhere in Los Angeles. I am waiting for a move in date for new construction built by the VA not to far from where I am right now. The woodworking I will be doing would be to accessorise the studio apartment I will be moving into, hopefully the last week of June. That date has been pushed back a couple of times, you know how the govt. works. Like my sister says, who would have thought that my 4 years in the Air Force in the 1970's would pay dividends at this late date. Anyway, good video, lots of excelent information, and best of luck in your business.
Patrick, thank you for sharing and good luck in your transition. Thank you also for taking the time to check us out and support us!
I have been watching your videos and find them so informative, I am curious as to how well ypu find the information translate to other countries? (From the UK)
I think business is business, no matter where you are. I would think growing a social following and focusing on building quality goods would be great in any country. I dont know the in's and outs of working in the UK, but general business practices should adapt to both
@@John_Malecki That makes logical sense. I plan to start this craft when I move into my own place. Channels like yourself, Matt Estelea, Mr. Build it, 3x3, etc are so entertaining and informative. And inspiring.
What's up john
What up Charles!
I'm courious if you have polish roots? :)
I want to start making money woodworking, I’m working out of my lawn but I also live in a small town where there’s not many wealthy people here and I have to travel far to get quality wood, I have been advised many times to make “smalls” and sell them on Facebook but I’m not interested in doing that, shipping costs are expensive for something big but how do I find customers for the premium products when they are likely to be far away in the first place
Great video! I can’t help but ask… are you wearing two wrist watches?
Thank you I was questioning my dream.
Curious haven’t seen Sam on camera lately he still work with you? Nice video
How do you feel about financing tools? I'm looking at a drum sander. And I cant decide if I should try to save up for it or finance it. Im a one man full-time wood shop. Sobit takes me just a little longer to put the client work, then say a 2 or 3 man shop. But I can afford to finance a tool. Whats your thoughts on this? 🤔
I am a big fan of financing tools. With workshop assets you can get savy with the accounting benefits too. Make sure you can afford the payments, and also that interes is 0 or very low
@@John_Malecki do you mean savy with the tax write offs?
I have been designing/3d modeling for 13 years that wants to own and run a woodworking business. What do you think might be the easiest thing/ hardest thing for me to start?
Getting your products out there first and foremost, and finding clients. Its the hardest part for any business to start i would say. Fortunately theres platforms that allow you to use them for free (like social) to grow awareness !
@@John_Malecki right on, I have Facebook, and Insta. Plus I have the wife sharing my stuff, she has a larger following then me. Thanks again!!!
I've been trying to find the video where you do an add for an invoice app that you like and for the life of me I can not find it.
Invoice 2 go. its on a deck project video
@@John_Malecki thank you
really dumb question but what the hell is that coaching clip from.