A great presentation. My mother was born in Archie Street, which was where Coronation St. was first made. My dad worked at the docks all his life from 14 years. He was head timekeeper also known as the tally man. Thanks again.
Excellent presentation, I live in Eccles, Salford, always been interested this history, used to see some big ships up and down the canal. It’s good to see you good knowledge of this area. Very good indeed
Thanks for that David, even I learnt a few things from your doc. One slight criticism is that I don't think that the opening of the Euroterminal in 1993 was the main reason why the lines were closed as most of the rail traffic had disappeared years before then. In the early 90s some of the track was upgraded in places and some new traffic flows were actually created such as steel to Castle Steel (on John Gilbert Way). The section of track that ran along Europa Way and across the Village Circle roundabout was actually built in the early 90s to avoid trains having to traverse a sharp curve where the lines along John Gilbert Way and Wharfside Way met. I think the remaining customers such as Cerestar (Now Cargills) just slowly moved away from using rail and the Trafford Park Estates Railway closed in 2000. Incidentally the line to the Containerbase along Barton Dock Road was actually owned by the Manchester Ship Canal Company and was run independently to the rest of the Trafford Park Estates Railway. If you want to find out more about the last few years of the rail network on Trafford Park there was an excellent article in Rail Express magazine issue 155.
Hello, it seems that due to Google+ being shut down, the page I linked to in order to credit you for your pictures no longer exists. Are these pictures still online somewhere for me to link to?
Good video. Sounds like a similar story to other docklands like in London, which were victims of newer, large container ships that didn't fit at the old docks.
Great work David, I think we need to crowd fund you a wireless lapel microphone they are cheap, wireless, and can be fluffy to avoid wind noise, currently available an a well known website relating to a south American river for under £23:00 keep up the good work mate. May piece be upon you,
Nice video David. Just one correction, - the Docks and Ship Canal had their 'golden age' in the 1950s, 60s and early 70s. This is when the Canal was busiest and had the greatest annual cargo tonnages, (not around the First World War as you suggest).
I worked in this area for a short time and would walk at lunchtime all around the local area so this is an area I got to know well along the tow paths, under railway arches and through the parks it is a nice area though could change a little at night and squealing tyres could often be heard.
As Londoner i suggest a visit to London Docklands and Canary Wharf Via DLR and take a trip on the Emirates Cable Car to see the totally vast ares of Docklands that has been redeveloped and some still waiting fir the Developer much the same story as Salford just bigger scale...
The entire thing except Pomona is in Salford, not Manchester. You could say it’s in Greater Manchester, but before 1974 it was in Lancashire. Even if it is in GM now, it shouldn’t be described as Manchester
Ironic that the ship canal was developed to screw Liverpool out of revenue in port taxes but now most of the industrial use is carried out at the Liverpool end. And I’m a Mancunian too
I thought companies like Cerestar still used a rail connection to Trafford Park.? At least it did only a few years ago.!🤔!. Do they STILL use a part of it today, or, do they just use the newer freight (container) terminal.?🤔?. Can ANYONE PLEASE HELP.?🤔🤔🤔?. Rich 🥰
@@DavidFrankal Yes, but Trafford Rd in Ordsall is part of Salford. Manchester is a separate city. I grew up around that area in the 60's & 70's and remember the docks very well.
I used to walk around there at lunch and I always enjoyed it with a mix of tow paths, bridges, parks, giant railway arches though in the winter after dark you could hear your fair share of squealing tyres but still preferable to parts of North Manchester.
Excellent video I'm so old a remember these docks, on new year's eve, all the ships sounded their hooters to let in the new year
I remember that too.
A great presentation. My mother was born in Archie Street, which was where Coronation St. was first made. My dad worked at the docks all his life from 14 years. He was head timekeeper also known as the tally man. Thanks again.
I was born in Trafford Park, there were 12 streets, 2 schools, 2 churches, a park and swimming baths.
Excellent video David. I am in Australia and love learning about these canals and dockyards.
Glad you enjoyed! I may or may not have some more canal-related content in the pipeline...
Excellent and well presented, thank you.
My mum was born 200 metres from the Port of Salford. Thanks for posting.
Lost to time... 😢 So sad seeing Manchester now.
Excellent presentation, I live in Eccles, Salford, always been interested this history, used to see some big ships up and down the canal. It’s good to see you good knowledge of this area. Very good indeed
Great video
Thanks for sharing David loved your video,,,best wishes from downunder..
Great work. Well done David
Thank you!
A super video, from a clever, knowledgeble young man..please just slow it down a touch, we want to hear and digest what you're saying...Thank you.
Very informative. I’m fascinated by the remarkable city of Manchester.
Thanks for that David, even I learnt a few things from your doc. One slight criticism is that I don't think that the opening of the Euroterminal in 1993 was the main reason why the lines were closed as most of the rail traffic had disappeared years before then. In the early 90s some of the track was upgraded in places and some new traffic flows were actually created such as steel to Castle Steel (on John Gilbert Way). The section of track that ran along Europa Way and across the Village Circle roundabout was actually built in the early 90s to avoid trains having to traverse a sharp curve where the lines along John Gilbert Way and Wharfside Way met. I think the remaining customers such as Cerestar (Now Cargills) just slowly moved away from using rail and the Trafford Park Estates Railway closed in 2000. Incidentally the line to the Containerbase along Barton Dock Road was actually owned by the Manchester Ship Canal Company and was run independently to the rest of the Trafford Park Estates Railway. If you want to find out more about the last few years of the rail network on Trafford Park there was an excellent article in Rail Express magazine issue 155.
Hello, it seems that due to Google+ being shut down, the page I linked to in order to credit you for your pictures no longer exists. Are these pictures still online somewhere for me to link to?
Good video. Sounds like a similar story to other docklands like in London, which were victims of newer, large container ships that didn't fit at the old docks.
I guess it's pretty randomly asking but do anyone know of a good website to stream newly released tv shows online ?
@Leland Kane Meh lately I have been using Flixportal. just search on google after it :P -kellan
@Kellan Anakin Thank you, I went there and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :) I appreciate it!
@Leland Kane No problem :)
Good work, love to see more of Manchester’s incredible history from you (but get a baffle got outside recording).
Great work David, I think we need to crowd fund you a wireless lapel microphone they are cheap, wireless, and can be fluffy to avoid wind noise, currently available an a well known website relating to a south American river for under £23:00 keep up the good work mate. May piece be upon you,
I have actually bought a microphone since I filmed this, so future videos should have better audio. Thanks anyway!
Very interesting. Well presented. I appreciated the subtitles. Is this part of your A-level course?
I learnt about this as part of my course, but the video itself was just for fun
Nice video David. Just one correction, - the Docks and Ship Canal had their 'golden age' in the 1950s, 60s and early 70s. This is when the Canal was busiest and had the greatest annual cargo tonnages, (not around the First World War as you suggest).
Wow. Salford Council did all that ? You might look into Peel Holdings who bought the assets of the old Manchester Ship Canal Company.
Well presented David, i used to sail with manchester liners but live in australia, so its nice to see whats happened since I left.
Would add that Salford docks were also bombed during the war. However decent video.
Would love to see those railways being put back to use. It would definitely reduce the road traffic.
I worked in this area for a short time and would walk at lunchtime all around the local area so this is an area I got to know well along the tow paths, under railway arches and through the parks it is a nice area though could change a little at night and squealing tyres could often be heard.
Great.
But the Manchester Docks are not in Manchester.
They are in Salford!
As Londoner i suggest a visit to London Docklands and Canary Wharf Via DLR and take a trip on the Emirates Cable Car to see the totally vast ares of Docklands that has been redeveloped and some still waiting fir the Developer much the same story as Salford just bigger scale...
Been there, done that!
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"Only inland seaport"... what about Goole?
or the London docks for that matter
I find it weird that I’m watching a video of a place where I literally have to go to attend uni lol
The entire thing except Pomona is in Salford, not Manchester. You could say it’s in Greater Manchester, but before 1974 it was in Lancashire. Even if it is in GM now, it shouldn’t be described as Manchester
Yes, they're in Salford, but they were known as the Manchester Docks as far as I'm aware
I worked in the area and used to walk at lunchtime and there is a block called Pomona Wharf I used to walk past on occasions.
Good video. It is Salford docks however. I was born in Ordsall in the fifties. The docks were a hive of activity.
Ironic that the ship canal was developed to screw Liverpool out of revenue in port taxes but now most of the industrial use is carried out at the Liverpool end. And I’m a Mancunian too
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I wonder why they called it Manchester Docks when the docks were in Salford.
nice dock-umentary
Eyy
I thought companies like Cerestar still used a rail connection to Trafford Park.?
At least it did only a few years ago.!🤔!.
Do they STILL use a part of it today, or, do they just use the newer freight (container) terminal.?🤔?.
Can ANYONE PLEASE HELP.?🤔🤔🤔?.
Rich 🥰
Trafford Centre is the 3rd Largest after Westfield and MetroCentre
You're right... It definitely was at one point. I ought to have checked that!
NYO Accept it was the largest when it opened
Salford, not Manchester.
They were called the Manchester Docks 🤷♂️
@@DavidFrankal Yes, but Trafford Rd in Ordsall is part of Salford. Manchester is a separate city. I grew up around that area in the 60's & 70's and remember the docks very well.
Pomona due for regeneration it appears
SALFORD DOCKS. NOT M
ANCHEC
You really should have bought yourself a clip on Mon by now.!🤣!. And would negate the writing of subtitles.
I live here and it's awful !!
It always was unfortunately.
I used to walk around there at lunch and I always enjoyed it with a mix of tow paths, bridges, parks, giant railway arches though in the winter after dark you could hear your fair share of squealing tyres but still preferable to parts of North Manchester.
is it a boy or a girl 😅😄
Salford, not Manchester.