Absolutely loved the previous version, this latest model is a brilliant all rounder but does lack some ultimate excitement. Not a fan of these VZ3 spec wheels either.... 😬 Thanks for watching as always 👊
I bought a Seat Leon Cupra R ST ABT with the pan roof a few months ago after watching your review and couldn't be happier. This new one could do with some work on the styling front with some better wheels and some side skirts like on the R ST.
Great information Joe! I agree. I would have a Golf R Variant as to me, it looks better and it can be equipped with a Drift Mode! But the Cupra Leon ST does have better value for money as if you want the same equipment in the Golf R Variant as in that Leon ST, your looking at £3000+ more. Have a good week
Hi Joe ! Must admit that the previous Seat Leon ST Cupra was much better looking AND it has those knobs and buttons which these new VAG products are missing mostly - these bloody touch button screens etc, as they disract the concentration from driving. Had Leon st 1.4 140bhp, the Leon Cupra 265 manual - it was almost perfect. As living in Finland I am now driving a BMW M135 2013 which is almost perfect for me. Must admit its tuned to 420-430 bhp....
A good review thanks,.. I agree with your comments early on.. the general looks should show that it is the 'Performance version of the range' ,. I have had a 2017 'Leon Cupra' and now the 'Cupra Formentor'.. 310 but both cars looked very similar to other models in the range, the car you review here sure is a rocket,. but being an 'estate' is why I went for the Formentor.
As a Golf 8 owner who's learned to live with the lack of physical controls, I find the Leon user interface a step too far as it doesn't have the short cut pad for climate, driving modes, assist systems and parking sensors which makes life a lot easier. But I am sure in time I can adapt to it. Leon is cheaper than Golf on the face of it but suspect it depreciates faster and therefore the montlies are about the same. New Golf 8 Estate is a bit sleeker than previous gen and this model is a backwards step aesthetically so think Golf edges it on looks now - that ABT tuned Estate beats them all though.
Do those plastic inserts on the wheels come off so you can change the style yourself? I know it sounds crazy but I'm sure I saw the new Skoda Kodiak Vrs review and it mentioned the big plates on its alloys could be removed.. maybe a new trend within VAG. 🤔
Great review Joe. Think the Leon Cupra 300 is the current sweet spot and would choose over a GTI Club sport. However, as this model doesn't have the latest Golf R engine and rear diff as far as I know, I'd be looking at the Golf, assuming it has the same setup as the hatchback....
@@peterbennpan7288 Yes, but it doesn't seem to be the latest development, including the torque vectoring rear diff of the latest Golf R. It would appear to be using the same set-up from the previous Golf R with a central Haldex clutch. Only the Mk8 R and forthcoming RS3 appear to be using this more sophisticated system...
At least in EU, there are 5 wheels options 2 of which have these pieces of plastic. There are no versions like VZ2, VZ3 etc., so you can fully customize your car. Needless to say, haven't seen anybody picking this specific wheel design.
Obviously i love a cupra video. Firstly I don’t really like it. The previous cupra estate mk3 just looked better. Secondly the new golf R estate will have that all new important haldex system with torque vectoring and drift mode. So the golf will handle better with that system and be better in the bends. I’m a little let down by the new cupra Leon as i thought when cupra went out on there own we would get more in looks. We had 3 cupra s but the golf my sway my decision this time. The formentor is a better looking car.
I agree. However, now the most powerful 308 SW is the 225hp PHEV. I wanna buy the Peugeot 308 SW but with the diesel and the 8-speed. A car I’d use on a challenge where I drive from London to Paris and back on one tank of fuel (in a few years time).
@@DaveDVideoMaker im a german car fanboy but the new 308 looks amazing, much better than the Golf, apart from the performance versions i really think its a no brainer and a great choice
Christ that roof just superb, reminds me of Tour de France where they stand out cars roof from the rear seats with flags. Shame wheels and price and looks generally.
Equivalent to a Golf R Mk7 maybe not a Mk8. Mk8 will have the tricky rear end which we all know does wonders in its handeling and cornering. Not to mention +20nm more according to VW.
Those alloys put me off ordering a VZ3. Apparently you can remove the plastic bits but they still look poor. The alloys on my MK3.5 Cupra 290 are a lot nicer.
It's kind of weird that it's not possible to fully customize the configuration in UK. I have ordered this red color with sunroof, standard rims, beats audio, 220V outlet and cloth electric seats (due to global warming and the fact that they don't have cooling option for front seats).
Hatch is much better looking , fwd version is more fun to drive and surprisingly faster on the track, can’t compare this to a bmw m5 cs as you would loose the price of the cupra in bmw crazy depreciation.
Hey I no sure if cupra use here haldex gen plus you need check formentor vz use haldex plus front 33% -rear 67 makes best perfect AWD like do alpina same way that why is better vs start bmw and never spin wheel system but all matter antispin system by haldex sec distribution center front rear for smooth if you don't know learn why cupra formentor vz beat Audi golf any SUV of category u see cupra formentor never spin wheel never think about why vs any road and best VZ 4 hit 0-100 4.5 sec vs snow 4.7 we saw test that's numbers hard do any SUV trust me. Cupra vs golf or vs VW man you need see Brand cupra racing company is much better vs Audi or VW stability flat ok don't try compare Ball vs balls is not same.
Those wheels are...horrendous!!! They are exactly the opposite of what they should be. To me they look like the ones on electric cars used to lessen drag. And how on earth do us nutters who like to keep their cars super clean, actually manage to clean the wheels themselves and the brake calipers etc??? Madness
@@24k__J because the cars not worth much at the end of the finance, it makes the monthly payments of the cheaper seat near enough the same as the golf.
This is a bit misleading. You talk about this being the best package under 40k, but don't mention that means you cannot add any single option in the configurator that won't push it over 40k. This includes paint, you must have it in the free white colour and no options to keep it under 40k. I dont fanct white on a car again to be honest!
Maybe you don't know the alloy wheels of aerodynamic cars ... you talk about cheap rims, this is the explanation of how aerodynamic alloy rims are built today, it amazes me how a tester does not know this information: To fit the light alloy base wheel, the inserts are molded and integrated into the outside of the wheel between the spokes of the rim.
Looks a little too much, MK7 Golf GTi/GTD was no looker either but sharper. Wheels kill this Cupra. It is estates like these that are helping kill wagons. And buy bloody SUV's. I'll just wait a year for Emira Lotus and carry on using a hack vehicle in car trade. Car is a car. I'm huge fan MK8 golf in that yellow juice green chromey bits mid trim level, just lovely
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Absolutely loved the previous version, this latest model is a brilliant all rounder but does lack some ultimate excitement. Not a fan of these VZ3 spec wheels either.... 😬
Thanks for watching as always 👊
Joe I saw you yesterday during the warmup of the FE race. Awkward but funny moment😂
I bought a Seat Leon Cupra R ST ABT with the pan roof a few months ago after watching your review and couldn't be happier. This new one could do with some work on the styling front with some better wheels and some side skirts like on the R ST.
Couldn’t agree more Joe, that’s why I just got a 1Y old 5F Cupra over this
Those plastic fins might help cool the brakes...?
Whoever signed off that wheel design needs to have a word with themselves ☹️
It looks like aftermarket trash that a 17 year old would spec. Otherwise its nice
Wondering if they are designed for brake cooling?
What a great sleeper car👏
Great information Joe! I agree. I would have a Golf R Variant as to me, it looks better and it can be equipped with a Drift Mode! But the Cupra Leon ST does have better value for money as if you want the same equipment in the Golf R Variant as in that Leon ST, your looking at £3000+ more. Have a good week
I'm with you on this car the previous incarnation looks so much better. Those plastic alloys are a non starter for me also.
I wasn't aware the wheels had plastic inserts in. You're the first to highlight this
This car in the matt blue or the dark grey with alternate wheels would be preferable to the Golf R.
No way.
Goddamm! A full size spare wheel. Bravo.
Bravo.
Hi Joe ! Must admit that the previous Seat Leon ST Cupra was much better looking AND it has those knobs and buttons which these new VAG products are missing mostly - these bloody touch button screens etc, as they disract the concentration from driving. Had Leon st 1.4 140bhp, the Leon Cupra 265 manual - it was almost perfect. As living in Finland I am now driving a BMW M135 2013 which is almost perfect for me. Must admit its tuned to 420-430 bhp....
Seat/Cupra effectively is only allowed AWD on the estate model and not the hatchback probably not to tread on the VW Golf R s toes...
Really grown to like your channel and style Joe. You are what Top Gear should be like. 👍🏼😎 Keep going please.
Top Gear was like this back when it started before the three clowns ruined it ;)
Wouldn’t it be lovely if VAG Group allowed Seat to shoehorn the 2.5 tfsi into that
Leon Cupra estate bonnet.. One can dream eh haha
A good review thanks,.. I agree with your comments early on.. the general looks should show that it is the 'Performance version of the range' ,. I have had a 2017 'Leon Cupra' and now the 'Cupra Formentor'.. 310 but both cars looked very similar to other models in the range, the car you review here sure is a rocket,. but being an 'estate' is why I went for the Formentor.
As a Golf 8 owner who's learned to live with the lack of physical controls, I find the Leon user interface a step too far as it doesn't have the short cut pad for climate, driving modes, assist systems and parking sensors which makes life a lot easier. But I am sure in time I can adapt to it. Leon is cheaper than Golf on the face of it but suspect it depreciates faster and therefore the montlies are about the same. New Golf 8 Estate is a bit sleeker than previous gen and this model is a backwards step aesthetically so think Golf edges it on looks now - that ABT tuned Estate beats them all though.
Those wheels are sick, they look rally inspired
I actually like the design of the wheels, not so much the cheap materials.
Definitely swap out the wheels for some aftermarket ones.
Hi Joe, just seen you out videoing was starting to rain so didn’t stop or want to bother you. But the can’t wait for the next video
Regards Steve
Haha amazing! Thanks for the consideration buddy, was having a mare 😂👊♥️
I enjoyed watching the Video Review ☺️. One of my favourite Hot Estate Cars
hi joe, you should do a video on the new arteon r !!!!!
Cupra keep nailing it for me.
Golf for the win
Have you driven it? It’s awesome
Do those plastic inserts on the wheels come off so you can change the style yourself? I know it sounds crazy but I'm sure I saw the new Skoda Kodiak Vrs review and it mentioned the big plates on its alloys could be removed.. maybe a new trend within VAG. 🤔
As always Joe a very informative video but prefer the ABT previous version which I know you liked on those Welsh roads .
Great review Joe. Think the Leon Cupra 300 is the current sweet spot and would choose over a GTI Club sport. However, as this model doesn't have the latest Golf R engine and rear diff as far as I know, I'd be looking at the Golf, assuming it has the same setup as the hatchback....
It doesn't have the EA888 engine???
@@peterbennpan7288 Yes, but it doesn't seem to be the latest development, including the torque vectoring rear diff of the latest Golf R. It would appear to be using the same set-up from the previous Golf R with a central Haldex clutch. Only the Mk8 R and forthcoming RS3 appear to be using this more sophisticated system...
Thx Joe! i need to admit You are becoming better and better.
I like the wheels , didn't realise the turbine bits were plastic though 😬
At least in EU, there are 5 wheels options 2 of which have these pieces of plastic. There are no versions like VZ2, VZ3 etc., so you can fully customize your car. Needless to say, haven't seen anybody picking this specific wheel design.
Obviously i love a cupra video. Firstly I don’t really like it. The previous cupra estate mk3 just looked better. Secondly the new golf R estate will have that all new important haldex system with torque vectoring and drift mode. So the golf will handle better with that system and be better in the bends. I’m a little let down by the new cupra Leon as i thought when cupra went out on there own we would get more in looks. We had 3 cupra s but the golf my sway my decision this time.
The formentor is a better looking car.
The new 308 SW should really get a 300HP powerplant, between the Golf and the Leon i'd go 308 all day :D
There is a review on autotopNL mate. It's lovely but only when electric kicks in for full power. 😞
@@chriscringle9263 thats the 508, not the 308 😅
I agree. However, now the most powerful 308 SW is the 225hp PHEV.
I wanna buy the Peugeot 308 SW but with the diesel and the 8-speed. A car I’d use on a challenge where I drive from London to Paris and back on one tank of fuel (in a few years time).
@@DaveDVideoMaker im a german car fanboy but the new 308 looks amazing, much better than the Golf, apart from the performance versions i really think its a no brainer and a great choice
@@nastyG184 ah my bad mate... 🤣🤣🤣🤣 We start again hahaha
Joe, you can get the VZ2 trim and add the panoramic roof as an extra - you then get the 5 spoke alloy wheels without the silly plastic bits!!
Yes that's what I say in the video
Be very interesting to see the actual power figures wonder if it is anywhere near the new golf r?
They're exactly the same...
@@mikegreig7825 ah wicked mate the new golf r been Dyno at around 340 ish. So this must be the same. Be nice to see them race each other
Christ that roof just superb, reminds me of Tour de France where they stand out cars roof from the rear seats with flags. Shame wheels and price and looks generally.
I believe these Cupra cars do not come with the new clever rear differential that is on the VW R models
Nice work Joe!
Which is the more fun to drive family car would you say? used 2018 BMW 530i xdrive or 2022 Cupra Leon Estate 310hp if both cost the same to buy?
Ignoring the visuals would you say this moves the Cupra ST on much compared to the old model, e.g. performance and handling?
today i swapped from the Leon ST hybrid to this one in the video 😁😁 DefInitely NOT this spec though...
Well, now we know where BMW got the headlights for the upcoming G8x 2-series
Great video as always Joe
This is very cool.
Nice honest review. Most of the time less is more with wheel design. IMHO
Totally agree mate 👌
Equivalent to a Golf R Mk7 maybe not a Mk8. Mk8 will have the tricky rear end which we all know does wonders in its handeling and cornering. Not to mention +20nm more according to VW.
Drove one today not a patch on golf r
If you don't need the space then would the hatch be better option? Once moving I bet just as quick and more fun to drive?
This or the Octavia vrs estate? Which one would you guys pick? 🤔🤔
Great video as always big man, wheels are definitely not my cup of tea too! 🙃
Thoughts on Škoda Octavia vRS? Subjectively looks better than VW or Seat, and inside has nicer materials. Probably cheaper too
Still prefer the Seat Leon Cupra R ST tuned by ABT that you reviewed a few years back👍
Those alloys put me off ordering a VZ3. Apparently you can remove the plastic bits but they still look poor. The alloys on my MK3.5 Cupra 290 are a lot nicer.
I would go for the Formentor VZ2 almost the same price.
It's kind of weird that it's not possible to fully customize the configuration in UK. I have ordered this red color with sunroof, standard rims, beats audio, 220V outlet and cloth electric seats (due to global warming and the fact that they don't have cooling option for front seats).
Do you prefer this car over Octavia VRS?
them wheels are shocking considering the cost of the car think i'll stick with my 2018 golf gti performance 3dr manual thanks
Next!
The Cupra/Golf R are pushing £40k you can get an M340I for that
That's what I was thinking, you can get an M340i ex demonstrator 4 to 6 months old for 42K ish.....
So is this coming to Australia or not?
Would look better with side skirts like what you could get with the 280 and older 290
Not available for some colors including this red one.
Waiting for your review on the new Formentor VZ5
Are you going to review the i30 N DCT ?
Hatch is much better looking , fwd version is more fun to drive and surprisingly faster on the track, can’t compare this to a bmw m5 cs as you would loose the price of the cupra in bmw crazy depreciation.
Very nice 👍🏻
Looks like someone is making you do the review at gumpoint
Explain?
Well at least the EU Exhaust/Emissions regs have got rid of the god awful VW farting sounds!
scrub that ;
Hey I no sure if cupra use here haldex gen plus you need check formentor vz use haldex plus front 33% -rear 67 makes best perfect AWD like do alpina same way that why is better vs start bmw and never spin wheel system but all matter antispin system by haldex sec distribution center front rear for smooth if you don't know learn why cupra formentor vz beat Audi golf any SUV of category u see cupra formentor never spin wheel never think about why vs any road and best VZ 4 hit 0-100 4.5 sec vs snow 4.7 we saw test that's numbers hard do any SUV trust me. Cupra vs golf or vs VW man you need see Brand cupra racing company is much better vs Audi or VW stability flat ok don't try compare Ball vs balls is not same.
Kind of getting bored of this 2.0L engine now that's in every VW Group car now.
The last model leon was much nicer.
It’s sad that the Cupra Leon doesn’t have 4wd
Those wheels are...horrendous!!! They are exactly the opposite of what they should be. To me they look like the ones on electric cars used to lessen drag. And how on earth do us nutters who like to keep their cars super clean, actually manage to clean the wheels themselves and the brake calipers etc??? Madness
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Be worth less when time comes to sell it too !than the golf
@@24k__J because the cars not worth much at the end of the finance, it makes the monthly payments of the cheaper seat near enough the same as the golf.
@@24k__J 😂😂😂😂😂😂put a smile on my face ,you may be correct there 😂good point
Can still get the previous model, virtually brand new, without the terrible vw group infotainment upgrade, that would be my choice...
I just did exactly that
This is a bit misleading. You talk about this being the best package under 40k, but don't mention that means you cannot add any single option in the configurator that won't push it over 40k. This includes paint, you must have it in the free white colour and no options to keep it under 40k. I dont fanct white on a car again to be honest!
Maybe you don't know the alloy wheels of aerodynamic cars ...
you talk about cheap rims, this is the explanation of how aerodynamic alloy rims are built today, it amazes me how a tester does not know this information:
To fit the light alloy base wheel, the inserts are molded and integrated into the outside of the wheel between the spokes of the rim.
It amazes me that you watch other peoples videos, you sound like Einstein.
Cupras go faster than 155mph on the speedo anyway
ac controls in the infotainment. NO.
Naff wheels.
There are 2 other multispoke wheels available that look much better.
1st
You’re fourth.
Looks terrible
I think seat have taken a backwards step with this generation sadly ! Looks awful in comparison
Looks a little too much, MK7 Golf GTi/GTD was no looker either but sharper. Wheels kill this Cupra. It is estates like these that are helping kill wagons. And buy bloody SUV's. I'll just wait a year for Emira Lotus and carry on using a hack vehicle in car trade. Car is a car. I'm huge fan MK8 golf in that yellow juice green chromey bits mid trim level, just lovely
Have to agree, the Wheels are cheap and nasty looking.......
Those wheels 🤢🤢🤮🤮
Just looks rather, plain.
I'll be sticking with my ST 300 Carbon Edition I think.