Noel excuses the horrific abuse he suffered by trying to convince himself it made him the guitarist that he is. That is so sad. Violence sufficient to make a child withdrawn is shameful.
Perhaps it's his way of dealing with the trauma? You can tell he's compartmentalized what he suffered in order to become a fully functioning, well adjusted adult. I hope he's been able to talk about it in order to begin healing himself.
Writing songs can be cathartic. And although most of Noel's songs don't have dark lyrics; it's the positive and hopeful songs that can help you out of that mental & psychological pain.
@@melissaknight7463 My daughter is similar. While not dealing with abuse from her parents, her friends hurt her through her younger years and she reclused to her bedroom and learned guitar. She's now writing music I think is as good as Noel's. Maybe someday she'll be heard on a larger scale. But yea, the guitar became an outlet for her. I'd say the same is true for Noel.
My perspective changed a lot when Noel's daughter, in an interview last year, said Noel and Liam talk all the time. That they're not really as estranged as the public thinks. Which leads me to believe it isn't really a sudden reconciliation and that they've likely talked about playing again as Oasis a lot. Their solo careers haven't been a tragedy, Liam's voice has gotten amazingly better over the last couple years and the Birds have gotten about as high flying as they're going to get so the inevitable conclusion for two old guys is to do what works. So much hate out there for them but their fans will fill the seats, regardless of the price and if they don't kill each other in the interim, they will likely clean up and make a bunch of people happy......haters be damned.
I’ve never heard Anais say they spoke a lot, and I followed all of the interviews regarding their fallout. It was genuine, and it had been in the cards for years in the 00’s. By the time they split they never spent any time together outside of ‘work’, and had barely anything in common. I’m a Man City fan and I know they avoided each other at games after they split and have different friends. Noel even blanked Liam’s son, his nephew, earlier this year, at a club, they don’t really know each other.
Yeah they visit each other all the time. There's that old video Noel talks about sticking a fork on a champagne cork to keep.it frizzy and fresh and Liam popped up and seeing that on the refrig and doing same thing back at his house but on a box of milk (to keep.it fresh)😅😅😅😅😅
Don’t be daft, Liam is funny but a daft twat. U guys need to stop thinking music is about three chords and drinking lyrics. Was ok but very poor musically and bad lyrics unless you’re twelve
I can say for certain anyone that wanted maturity from their rock bands... Oasis wasn't the band for you. It was about youth or the confidence of youth. Maybe that's why the band burnt out quick because their youth passed. And it took time apart for them to mature. I do think this time around, if you judge by their solo careers, this will be a slightly more grown up version of Oasis
I can say for certain anyone that wanted maturity from their rock bands... Oasis wasn't the band for you. It was about youth or the confidence of youth. Maybe that's why the band burnt out quick because their youth passed. And it took time apart for them to mature. I do think this time around, if you judge by their solo careers, this will be a slightly more grown up version of Oasis Burnt out quick? they had 8 no 1 lps in the UK mate and sold over 50 million records
One has 4 children from 4 different women to maintain, and the other waited for the divorce settlement to conclude to avoid sharing anything from these new concerts with his ex-wife. That's the main reason it's happening and why it took long. 😂
The Beatles managed to produce quality music for 7 years and 7 months. Noel has been cranking out quality tunes for 33 years !! As well as being one of the wittiest and most thought provoking people alive !
Yes Paul McCartney hasn't done anything since the beatles broke up. Oh yes im sure also John Lennon would have not if they didn't shot him... same same
Sorry, but comparing them in any way is laughable. Oasis are a tidy band, but nowhere near as consistent as arguably the greatest band the world will ever see.
The 2 should coexist. The trauma won't magically disappear on its own. It can fuel good things but eventually will surface either as an illness or the same fucked up behaviour or both.
I believe forward action, utilising ones inner drive through hard work , embracing the beautiful, spirituality may dissipate trauma as efficiently,( or more so), as therapy
Noel’s ok. Very ok. Great speaker and thinker, actually. Very down to earth. Intelligent in the good way. He should/could write some books. Liam.... Cluster-B, mate. Thus..., a great frontman. No fear. Should’ve grown up by now. Guess he has. So, he might be ok now too.
Liam has always been much nicer and kinder than Noel, so he is more than ok. There are so many stories of people who met and know Liam that go way back that prove that Liam has always been the kind one
@@DeadHeadFred2436 It's a category of personality disorders like narcissism, borderline, histrionic etc...basically the comment is calling him a narcissist and claiming this is why he's a good singer, because he thinks so highly of himself that his extreme confidence makes him a fearless frontman. Not saying I agree, just explaining what he meant
Liam has always been kind and down to earth. There are so many stories from fans and other musicians and people in the industry that prove how kind and nice Liam is. Noel on the other hand is the one who bullies other people, looks down on them and has beef with bandmates and people who helped them before they were famous (e.g. The Real People)
It's a like a pantomime and they are like cartoon characters. But it's Noel the more sensible and restrained of the two. I think the arguments are more caused by Liam than Noel.
A kid with a hammer Liam is lucky to be alive, he nearly drowned Paul Hewitt the lad saved him. Traumatic life as a child yet he still rose to the top.
I'd imagine very few children experienced or witnessed the extreme abuse that happened in the Gallagher household. Their dad beat Noel and stamped on his head until he was barely conscious fgs.
@@sunny70299 Yes it was horrendous, Noel and Paul both developed severe stammers as a result and had to go to speech therapy for years to fix the problem. Tommy Gallagher is a terrible person.
I'd rather Noel and Liam weren't beaten as children and be without Oasis personally. But I bet we'd have heard from them somehow even if they had a great dad.
I agree. I feel that somehow these two were meant to be famous and/or were born to entertain people. So even with a stable, loving father, they would've been stand outs even if only within their community.
They say Liam was the one who escaped the beatings completely and Noel was the one who took the brunt out of the 3 brothers. From the picture of their dad, I'm going to take a guess, that it was because Noel was the spit of his father looks wise and the father was a self loathing alcoholic. Liam stans are constantly trying to point to him as the kind one but I don't see that. Noel is perhaps more calculated but that's because he's the more intelligent of the two and he knows it. I really think the dynamic is that Liam reminds Noel of his abusive Dad when he starts going off the rails(selfish, reckless behaviour etc), especially when he become abusive and disrespectful towards him. It's hard to know for sure though I guess, so maybe it's better not to pick sides and take them as they are outside of each other.
Noel never owns up to how vicious and nasty he was towards Liam He never had a good thing to say about him and constantly knocked him down to seemingly prevent him growing into a proper front-man, which he obviously could be, and Noel obviously couldn't . He constantly clipped his wings and kind of forced him to remain a petulant kid to retain self-respect to Noel's put downs. Noel has a nasty and cruel streak to him and he never admits it.
Liam's child like behavior I'm sure wore him down. Noel wrote the music and played the instruments. Liam would get drunk and show up to sing...great voice. But major dbag.
Why didnt Paul and Noel share a bedroom as they were closer in age? Their mother fell pregnant with Noel when Paul was still a baby. Noel is five years older tham Liam so sharing a bedroom would have been difficult.
@starchillius I think this is so wrong with the oldest two having less than two years between them. Noel would have also known Paul for the first four years of his life, and then Liam was born. Also, Noel was about to start school and would have had that in common with Paul. He wouldn't want to share a bedroom with a baby and later toddler. I assumed Noel and Liam sharing a room growing up was because they had no other siblings and lived in a two bedroom house or their other sibling was a sister. I know one family who put the eldest child (male) in one room while their daughter had to share a room with 3 brothers.
@@lemsip207 cool, I don’t think they really thought about shit like that considering the dad was an abusive working class drunk. You’re trying to apply modern logic to a family from 50 years ago
you're missing Noel's manipulation of the press. there's a lot of evidence suggesting he planned Dig Out Your Soul as their last album and to leave the band mid tour -- blaming it on Liam and the others not siding with him. Bell said the final argument had nothing to do with what Noel claimed it was about. seems clear he was trying to control the narrative and build a runway for his solo career. he has a history of this sort of thing. did something similar with previous band members.
Liam's said in interviews that Noel was constantly on the phone with the press talking about all the fights and problems leading up to the Paris gig, which made him very angry. So this is very possible.
@@godsetgodset Noel kept a public journal on the band's official website during the tour -- same place he'd eventually announce his departure. Leading up to it he mentions his frustration with the others in a vague way. Seemed very forced.
A few more important thing about their dynamic: Because Liam didn't play any instruments, singing was HIS thing. When Noel started doing more of the singing, Liam was left with nothing. Especially on stage this became a big problem, when he was left with his tambourine like a nobody. This made Liam resentful of Noel. There's also the jealousy part. Noel was always jealous of Liam because he was cooler, more handsome, great voice and all that. So by putting him down, he made himself feel better (ie fork in the soup thing), which he did constantly and more frequently throughout their Oasis years. Also, Noel gets more money from the songs because he wrote them, which made Liam jealous. Liam called one of their albums Noel's album in an interview, and Noel responded with "our album". Liam was clearly not happy with Noel being the boss and making all the decisions and making much more money.
Liam plays guitar he’s good, the drums and the tambourine, writes songs but singer is where he excels. He even took “a violin and guitar” to school Paul said that in his book. They both wind each other up. I agree Noel is jealous Paul said Liam had as “many as five girls escorting him to school” sibling rivalry. Let’s hope with maturity they’ve learned to get on with each other otherwise the tour will be difficult
No one wrote songs like Noel with it all being uplifting and no one released as many great songs in that short period of time as Noel, maybe only the Beatles and the rolling stones but even they didn't write songs like Noel that uplifted you! Noel is a genius
Either that, or it's from head trauma he's received which makes him eternally 20-years-old. I do know he becomes a completely different dude when he gets drunk. It reminds Noel of their abusive dad so he belts him one. Rinse and repeat
@@ReeseChown interesting… it’s just his social awkwardness as well. I can tell he is masking as I’m on the Autistic spectrum myself. Maybe that’s why I related to him so much back in the day. I was a angry young man, and realizing not being understood was mainly down to being Autistic. I think Noel would be more understanding you would hope if he was Autistic. My relationship with my older brother was pretty similar, as I worked with him, and would react off impulse, have no filter, and he was more calculated and bottled his emotions up.
@@ReeseChownNoel must feel resentful towards Liam as he got physically abused by their father even more than Paul did and Liam was left out of the abuse.
In Paris? They broke up on their way to the V-Festival in England, I forget where exactly but I was there. They were due to headline and it'd have been the first time I'd have seen them, despite being born in 85 and growing up a fan in the 90s. Rumours started to spread that they'd pulled out after some dispute, and it was eventually confirmed that they'd split up. I watched Keane instead, who were surprisingly good live. Liam showed up on one of the other co-headliners (MGMT I think) sets, which one of my friends had gone with instead. Maybe it was framed as them having a dispute on the way to England but splitting up before Paris, but no way - they were set to play on that V-Festival show, and they were finished after. Bloody Paris!
Good video! I was thinking about their upbringing because of 2 recent guardian articles, one said they're the "most damaging uk band" and another was a rebuttal that there's classicism to that statement considering how the gallagher brothers represented the northern working class. It's interesting to examine how oasis seems to be connected in the UK to "football crowds" and laddism with subsequent lgbt-phobia and patriotism and how that's been used to further the bitterness against their reunion. I can agree that they've had their bad moments and indeed the view of noel as the more mature one is something considering how he's very much an old man yelling at cloud when looking at some statements he makes. I have to respect that they refuse to be media trained pr brained celebs like most of their peers. For better or for worse, there's little pretending with them. Also considering how the middle and working class have been largely priced out of the arts, they are very much at the very end of the issues with the entertainment industry. I will always find it damn refreshing to have them with their accents on shows wearing regular clothes and having many people see themselves in their authenticity.
Real working class people don’t behave like these frauds from leafy Burnage. We’re actually insulted to think that’s how other people see us, and no-one has an accent like that in real life.
Unfortunately the things that eventually tore them apart were also the things that rocketed them to success in the first place. I hope more than anything they can start being brothers again
My favourite bit of Oasis breaking up just before a gig was Kele Okereke of Bloc Party, who'd already had beef with Oasis, saying that now that meant that Bloc Party were headlining the gig. Bloc Party were great but Oasis are basically what the The Beatles would be if they were actually good.
Note check; not all of the songs Bonehead and Liam wrote were bad. Check out 'Life In Vain' and 'Colour My Life'. A bit Smiths-ey, but not shabby at all.
They would have got much better at writing I like “take me” and “ colour my life” it was to easy to leave the writing to Noel who was a natural but Liam has some great songs.
11:02 because Noel's divorce. Just my opinion, but Noel went from being in his house with his family to sitting alone in a hotel room. And that's the moment that you start to miss your old familial connections. You're sad, so you think of happier times. You make a phone call... And it's amazing how quickly you remember the great moments you shared.
You talk about manchester as if its some horrible backwater nowhere town. They didn't want to get out of Manchester as buy they did want to get some money and live in a nicer area (which they did when they moved to didsbury). I grew up in a posh part of Manchester and saw Liam Gallagher multiple times around at bars, this was between around 2000-2014.
I know people don’t like them because of their attitudes, or have some sort of just general dislike to them and maybe even just their music as reasons, but BELIEVE ME also ALOT of people love them! Including myself. Fuck those that can’t just accept it. They defined a generation in the 90s and their songs are like anthems to people here in the UK. Even now 30 years later they still are relevant to people’s music purchases through streams and vinyls and have continued to bring in a younger audience to this day whom relate to Noel’s songs and lyrics and Liam as a frontman. They have B-sides bands can only dream as having A-sides like songs and have proven that with this reunion tour they are capable of selling out stadiums and people still have a massive interest in the band. Liam has recovered his voice to a good level again through his solo work and Noel still sounds great and is producing great songs through his High Flying Birds band. They are the reason for bands like The Artic Monkeys, Kasabian and The Courtneers being formed today as a continuation of Uk indie music bands. Whether you like them or not they are icons. The band still to the day in the UK are beloved and there is huge anticipation for them both being on stage as brothers again. Defining yet another milestone in 2025 Oasis quite simply are still THAT BAND ❤️🎸
A childhood friend of mine was beat repeatedly by his father for swearing uncontrollably at inappropriate times. When he grew up, he was diagnosed with turrets syndrome. Time's were just different back in the 70's
Liam was never part of the Rain, when he joined it became Oasis. And Noel actually liked their tunes and even suggested to record them but Liam didn't want to 'cause he trusted Noel's songs more. And he didn't bring the drunk guys of the pub INTO the studio or interferred the recording, the studio was already locked out. He brought them to the house where they were staying.
I heard the demo of live forever and Columbia and just blown away I heard the producer sang on Columbia. And Is the monnow valley is a alternate version?
Noel had the tougher upbringing of the two but doesn't behave as badly as Liam. So there must be something about Liam's personality that makes him like that.
Liam seems much more Impulsive than Noel so I would definitely bet on him having ADHD even if it's just light. My friend has very strong ADHD to the point where he needs medication to function. I wouldn't put Liam in that category. Just light ADHD that makes him a bit of a loose cannon and makes him always speak his mind. Also makes him struggle to care about conversations that don't interest him.
Great video! I wish you had, however, touched on what Noel did exactly, because, if it is just about releasing his versions of tracks, it seems like it may have had more to do with 1) not wanting to deal with Liam and 2) preferring not to encourage someone who has clearly interfered with his own band’s success on more than one ocassion (which I am writing as someone who likes them both).
It wasn’t ‘worse’ than any of us thought. It is a story about two narcissists that weep about their past, and have no social skills. Lots of us had abusive backgrounds. The final proof of the fact they are narcissists - Liam at least - is that none of us know much about the rest of the band. Their songs were okay, quite catchy even, so how do we not know the rest of the band?
Haha but they are world famous millionaires in a great band and you are a jealous nothing. I would rather be a narcissist that an envious jealous bitter critic nobody.
The over-riding reason that Oasis is re-forming is $$$. All the rest is secondary. They can both see many millions to be made in a short period of time provided they can get through a limited amount of time in each others company.
I think this tour is for $$$. I hope it goes off smoothly, but time will tell. I can understand a lot of the themes in Noel's lyrics in context with his childhood. Also understand his detatchment from Liam in the later years of Oasis. Maybe that was his way of coling/dealing with it. Then by 2009 the roof caved in.
Maybe it's just that Liam rebelled against Noel's authority in the band with his behavior. Maybe Liam just wanted to be respected by Noel. But who knows what's really going on in their heads
Gutted i couldn't get tickets they were to expensive i did see liam in July but seeing oasis back is going to be biblical ill sit outside croke park in Dublin and just listen 👂 to them 😢😢😢
you mentioned liam felt he was johns reincarnation even though he was born 8 years before johns death. its funny i felt the same and im born on johns birthday 1994.
Falling down will be heard by more people good video as well a great exit song Tone the booze drugs down or voice frapped Liam's vocal at Wembley did he warm up needs a vocal coach
Noel's songs always had a positive outlook. "We will find a brighter day". That's why they mean so much to people.
Hi songs have been stolen from all the catchiest tunes from the 60s and 70s. That's why they mean so much to people. Get it right.
@@justainttelling7445 Some songs yes, there are plenty of completely original songs that were written by Noel that are legendary.
@@justainttelling7445 as are most songs
@@justainttelling7445 Good artists borrow, great artists steal
Sure. But there is also `some might say sunshine follows thunder, go and tell it to the man who cannot shine'
“He’s like a man with a fork in a world of soup.”
That’s fucking brilliant 😂😂
Stolen line
That’s just how family happens sometimes, no words said and you just get back to it.
Being given £50 million helps too.
Noel excuses the horrific abuse he suffered by trying to convince himself it made him the guitarist that he is. That is so sad. Violence sufficient to make a child withdrawn is shameful.
Perhaps it's his way of dealing with the trauma? You can tell he's compartmentalized what he suffered in order to become a fully functioning, well adjusted adult. I hope he's been able to talk about it in order to begin healing himself.
He’s just speaking facts.
Writing songs can be cathartic. And although most of Noel's songs don't have dark lyrics; it's the positive and hopeful songs that can help you out of that mental & psychological pain.
@@melissaknight7463 My daughter is similar. While not dealing with abuse from her parents, her friends hurt her through her younger years and she reclused to her bedroom and learned guitar. She's now writing music I think is as good as Noel's. Maybe someday she'll be heard on a larger scale. But yea, the guitar became an outlet for her. I'd say the same is true for Noel.
I don't know if he's excusing it, maybe he's just trying to draw some strength from it.
My perspective changed a lot when Noel's daughter, in an interview last year, said Noel and Liam talk all the time. That they're not really as estranged as the public thinks.
Which leads me to believe it isn't really a sudden reconciliation and that they've likely talked about playing again as Oasis a lot.
Their solo careers haven't been a tragedy, Liam's voice has gotten amazingly better over the last couple years and the Birds have gotten about as high flying as they're going to get so the inevitable conclusion for two old guys is to do what works.
So much hate out there for them but their fans will fill the seats, regardless of the price and if they don't kill each other in the interim, they will likely clean up and make a bunch of people happy......haters be damned.
Do you have a link to the interview? Can't seem to find it anywhere.
I’ve never heard Anais say they spoke a lot, and I followed all of the interviews regarding their fallout.
It was genuine, and it had been in the cards for years in the 00’s.
By the time they split they never spent any time together outside of ‘work’, and had barely anything in common.
I’m a Man City fan and I know they avoided each other at games after they split and have different friends.
Noel even blanked Liam’s son, his nephew, earlier this year, at a club, they don’t really know each other.
@@frasermalcolm2645
Who’s Amy McDonald??
Brilliantly put. The haters do it for weird reasons, why they don't just let go and get involved is beyond me, Oasis are fucking epic
Yeah they visit each other all the time. There's that old video Noel talks about sticking a fork on a champagne cork to keep.it frizzy and fresh and Liam popped up and seeing that on the refrig and doing same thing back at his house but on a box of milk (to keep.it fresh)😅😅😅😅😅
Even judging by that blurry photo, you can tell Noel looks a lot like his father
Spitting image
There will never be another band like them. A working class band that makes timeless songs for everyone in the world
Don’t be daft, Liam is funny but a daft twat. U guys need to stop thinking music is about three chords and drinking lyrics. Was ok but very poor musically and bad lyrics unless you’re twelve
The one and only. I can’t wait to see them live in Dublin. I am coming all the way from Canada.
I'd argue The Stone Roses are like Oasis' musical brother, but both bands are distinctly different and amazing.
I can't wait to see them in Manchester all the way from - Manchester 😊
Oh jesus
I can say for certain anyone that wanted maturity from their rock bands... Oasis wasn't the band for you. It was about youth or the confidence of youth. Maybe that's why the band burnt out quick because their youth passed. And it took time apart for them to mature. I do think this time around, if you judge by their solo careers, this will be a slightly more grown up version of Oasis
I can say for certain anyone that wanted maturity from their rock bands... Oasis wasn't the band for you. It was about youth or the confidence of youth. Maybe that's why the band burnt out quick because their youth passed. And it took time apart for them to mature. I do think this time around, if you judge by their solo careers, this will be a slightly more grown up version of Oasis
Burnt out quick? they had 8 no 1 lps in the UK mate and sold over 50 million records
@@iggypopisgod9 Their first two albums are the only good ones. And Masterplan of course.
One has 4 children from 4 different women to maintain, and the other waited for the divorce settlement to conclude to avoid sharing anything from these new concerts with his ex-wife. That's the main reason it's happening and why it took long. 😂
I don’t know why wealthy and famous men get married! Or at least makes their bride to be sign a prenup. Famous men are susceptible for gold diggers.
Hey, the expenses of men. At least we got the lot back mate
It's a Cash Grab. Thing is they're a boring live band.
@@daniellefrancis1476 what? it's not like they're being forced to marry someone
@AreJayCee
Boring live. Boring in the studio.
The Beatles managed to produce quality music for 7 years and 7 months. Noel has been cranking out quality tunes for 33 years !! As well as being one of the wittiest and most thought provoking people alive !
You sarcastic bastard.
Yes Paul McCartney hasn't done anything since the beatles broke up. Oh yes im sure also John Lennon would have not if they didn't shot him... same same
Sorry, but comparing them in any way is laughable. Oasis are a tidy band, but nowhere near as consistent as arguably the greatest band the world will ever see.
Noel is a genius and yeah Lennon done nothing after the Beatles but McCartney done loads and along with Dylan the best ever songwriter
Oasis is the only brit band that can win a war and the rest are softies. That's why they are the greatest band in the world 😂😂😂
Noel has looked the same since birth. Lmao
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Supersonic Documentary tells everything about their lives and it's recommended
Some people don't do therapy for childhood abuse, they convert the inner rage to a drive to succed
then they turn that inner rage to their kids.. and the cycle continues
No, no, no. It's called SUBLIMATION. Look it up.
The 2 should coexist. The trauma won't magically disappear on its own. It can fuel good things but eventually will surface either as an illness or the same fucked up behaviour or both.
I believe forward action, utilising ones inner drive through hard work , embracing the beautiful, spirituality may dissipate trauma as efficiently,( or more so), as therapy
Noel’s ok. Very ok.
Great speaker and thinker, actually. Very down to earth. Intelligent in the good way.
He should/could write some books.
Liam.... Cluster-B, mate. Thus..., a great frontman. No fear.
Should’ve grown up by now. Guess he has.
So, he might be ok now too.
Wtf is a cluster-B
Liam has always been much nicer and kinder than Noel, so he is more than ok. There are so many stories of people who met and know Liam that go way back that prove that Liam has always been the kind one
Your comment was......just ok
@@DeadHeadFred2436 It's a category of personality disorders like narcissism, borderline, histrionic etc...basically the comment is calling him a narcissist and claiming this is why he's a good singer, because he thinks so highly of himself that his extreme confidence makes him a fearless frontman. Not saying I agree, just explaining what he meant
@@fray3dendsofsanity ah fairs makes sense, thanks for the info 👍
Liam has always been kind and down to earth. There are so many stories from fans and other musicians and people in the industry that prove how kind and nice Liam is. Noel on the other hand is the one who bullies other people, looks down on them and has beef with bandmates and people who helped them before they were famous (e.g. The Real People)
I hope they don't hurt each other on the reunion, but I'm sure that I'm not the only one who finds their antics completely hilarious.
It's a like a pantomime and they are like cartoon characters. But it's Noel the more sensible and restrained of the two. I think the arguments are more caused by Liam than Noel.
I think age has calmed then down quite a bit tbh. It should be fine
@@oxsila Even still, I'd be very surprised if they fulfill half of their tour dates.
hopefully they can be calm about ir
They will avoid each other like the plague apart from sound checks and the actual gigs.
Brilliant video David. Quality content as always.
you forgot about Liam literally getting his interest in music from being hit in the head, now that was ACTUALLY beating the talent into him
A kid with a hammer Liam is lucky to be alive, he nearly drowned Paul
Hewitt the lad saved him. Traumatic life as a child yet he still rose to the top.
i'd think others kids have had it worse but them talking about it may help those others find their voice
I'd imagine very few children experienced or witnessed the extreme abuse that happened in the Gallagher household. Their dad beat Noel and stamped on his head until he was barely conscious fgs.
@@sunny70299 Yes it was horrendous, Noel and Paul both developed severe stammers as a result and had to go to speech therapy for years to fix the problem. Tommy Gallagher is a terrible person.
It breaks my soul knowing what they went through
I'd rather Noel and Liam weren't beaten as children and be without Oasis personally. But I bet we'd have heard from them somehow even if they had a great dad.
I agree. I feel that somehow these two were meant to be famous and/or were born to entertain people. So even with a stable, loving father, they would've been stand outs even if only within their community.
They say Liam was the one who escaped the beatings completely and Noel was the one who took the brunt out of the 3 brothers. From the picture of their dad, I'm going to take a guess, that it was because Noel was the spit of his father looks wise and the father was a self loathing alcoholic. Liam stans are constantly trying to point to him as the kind one but I don't see that. Noel is perhaps more calculated but that's because he's the more intelligent of the two and he knows it. I really think the dynamic is that Liam reminds Noel of his abusive Dad when he starts going off the rails(selfish, reckless behaviour etc), especially when he become abusive and disrespectful towards him. It's hard to know for sure though I guess, so maybe it's better not to pick sides and take them as they are outside of each other.
Noel never owns up to how vicious and nasty he was towards Liam
He never had a good thing to say about him and constantly knocked him down to seemingly prevent him growing into a proper front-man, which he obviously could be, and Noel obviously couldn't . He constantly clipped his wings and kind of forced him to remain a petulant kid to retain self-respect to Noel's put downs. Noel has a nasty and cruel streak to him and he never admits it.
Agree the age gap five years older Noel appears to dominate Liam.
Liam's child like behavior I'm sure wore him down. Noel wrote the music and played the instruments. Liam would get drunk and show up to sing...great voice. But major dbag.
He kind of does here, at 30 seconds in...
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Why didnt Paul and Noel share a bedroom as they were closer in age? Their mother fell pregnant with Noel when Paul was still a baby. Noel is five years older tham Liam so sharing a bedroom would have been difficult.
probably because they had seperate rooms for 6 years until Liam was born and then they just lumped the two youngest together
@starchillius I think this is so wrong with the oldest two having less than two years between them. Noel would have also known Paul for the first four years of his life, and then Liam was born. Also, Noel was about to start school and would have had that in common with Paul. He wouldn't want to share a bedroom with a baby and later toddler. I assumed Noel and Liam sharing a room growing up was because they had no other siblings and lived in a two bedroom house or their other sibling was a sister.
I know one family who put the eldest child (male) in one room while their daughter had to share a room with 3 brothers.
@@lemsip207 cool, I don’t think they really thought about shit like that considering the dad was an abusive working class drunk. You’re trying to apply modern logic to a family from 50 years ago
@starchillius They probably have a tradition where the eldest gets their own room and stick to it unthinking. Instead of breaking with tradition.
@@lemsip207 exactly, Paul had his own room 'cause he was the eldest. I remember heard it in an interview or a documentary
you're missing Noel's manipulation of the press. there's a lot of evidence suggesting he planned Dig Out Your Soul as their last album and to leave the band mid tour -- blaming it on Liam and the others not siding with him. Bell said the final argument had nothing to do with what Noel claimed it was about. seems clear he was trying to control the narrative and build a runway for his solo career. he has a history of this sort of thing. did something similar with previous band members.
Liam's said in interviews that Noel was constantly on the phone with the press talking about all the fights and problems leading up to the Paris gig, which made him very angry. So this is very possible.
@@godsetgodset Noel kept a public journal on the band's official website during the tour -- same place he'd eventually announce his departure. Leading up to it he mentions his frustration with the others in a vague way. Seemed very forced.
Brilliant video as ever. This channel needs more subs!
A few more important thing about their dynamic:
Because Liam didn't play any instruments, singing was HIS thing. When Noel started doing more of the singing, Liam was left with nothing. Especially on stage this became a big problem, when he was left with his tambourine like a nobody. This made Liam resentful of Noel.
There's also the jealousy part. Noel was always jealous of Liam because he was cooler, more handsome, great voice and all that. So by putting him down, he made himself feel better (ie fork in the soup thing), which he did constantly and more frequently throughout their Oasis years.
Also, Noel gets more money from the songs because he wrote them, which made Liam jealous. Liam called one of their albums Noel's album in an interview, and Noel responded with "our album". Liam was clearly not happy with Noel being the boss and making all the decisions and making much more money.
Liam plays guitar he’s good, the drums and the tambourine, writes songs but singer is where he excels. He even took “a violin and guitar” to school Paul said that in his book. They both wind each other up. I agree Noel is jealous Paul said Liam had as “many as five girls escorting him to school” sibling rivalry.
Let’s hope with maturity they’ve learned to get on with each other otherwise the tour will be difficult
No one wrote songs like Noel with it all being uplifting and no one released as many great songs in that short period of time as Noel, maybe only the Beatles and the rolling stones but even they didn't write songs like Noel that uplifted you! Noel is a genius
3:49 You missed out a key element about Noel he was Insprial Carpets Drum Technician !
I believe Liam’s on the Autistic Spectrum. And uses his Rock and roll attitude to Mask it.
Either that, or it's from head trauma he's received which makes him eternally 20-years-old. I do know he becomes a completely different dude when he gets drunk. It reminds Noel of their abusive dad so he belts him one. Rinse and repeat
@@ReeseChown interesting… it’s just his social awkwardness as well. I can tell he is masking as I’m on the Autistic spectrum myself. Maybe that’s why I related to him so much back in the day. I was a angry young man, and realizing not being understood was mainly down to being Autistic. I think Noel would be more understanding you would hope if he was Autistic. My relationship with my older brother was pretty similar, as I worked with him, and would react off impulse, have no filter, and he was more calculated and bottled his emotions up.
Shutup haha
@@Lonewolf__666 hahahaha come on now, the bloke knows hes the only last living rock star and he matures with age
@@ReeseChownNoel must feel resentful towards Liam as he got physically abused by their father even more than Paul did and Liam was left out of the abuse.
In Paris? They broke up on their way to the V-Festival in England, I forget where exactly but I was there. They were due to headline and it'd have been the first time I'd have seen them, despite being born in 85 and growing up a fan in the 90s. Rumours started to spread that they'd pulled out after some dispute, and it was eventually confirmed that they'd split up. I watched Keane instead, who were surprisingly good live. Liam showed up on one of the other co-headliners (MGMT I think) sets, which one of my friends had gone with instead.
Maybe it was framed as them having a dispute on the way to England but splitting up before Paris, but no way - they were set to play on that V-Festival show, and they were finished after. Bloody Paris!
Before they went on stage in Paris v was next gig pulled
what he said about his old man "beating the talent into him" is just such an absolutely f***ing horrible thing to say
Maybe he was spitefully taking a jab at his dad
Trauma response, a way to comment on it publicly without feeling vulnerable.
Good video! I was thinking about their upbringing because of 2 recent guardian articles, one said they're the "most damaging uk band" and another was a rebuttal that there's classicism to that statement considering how the gallagher brothers represented the northern working class. It's interesting to examine how oasis seems to be connected in the UK to "football crowds" and laddism with subsequent lgbt-phobia and patriotism and how that's been used to further the bitterness against their reunion. I can agree that they've had their bad moments and indeed the view of noel as the more mature one is something considering how he's very much an old man yelling at cloud when looking at some statements he makes. I have to respect that they refuse to be media trained pr brained celebs like most of their peers. For better or for worse, there's little pretending with them. Also considering how the middle and working class have been largely priced out of the arts, they are very much at the very end of the issues with the entertainment industry. I will always find it damn refreshing to have them with their accents on shows wearing regular clothes and having many people see themselves in their authenticity.
Real working class people don’t behave like these frauds from leafy Burnage.
We’re actually insulted to think that’s how other people see us, and no-one has an accent like that in real life.
They trigger commies. To independent for their ritualistic hive mind trap.
Unfortunately the things that eventually tore them apart were also the things that rocketed them to success in the first place. I hope more than anything they can start being brothers again
My favourite bit of Oasis breaking up just before a gig was Kele Okereke of Bloc Party, who'd already had beef with Oasis, saying that now that meant that Bloc Party were headlining the gig. Bloc Party were great but Oasis are basically what the The Beatles would be if they were actually good.
Their Dad looks exactly like Noel.
Exactly. Like. Him.
Jeez! Their dad looks like Noel! 😮
Note check; not all of the songs Bonehead and Liam wrote were bad. Check out 'Life In Vain' and 'Colour My Life'. A bit Smiths-ey, but not shabby at all.
They would have got much better at writing I like “take me” and “ colour my life” it was to easy to leave the writing to Noel who was a natural but Liam has some great songs.
"he's a fork in a world of soup" is one of the funniest quotes ever 😭😭😭😭😭
I really liked this video
Then you should watch the documentary 'Supersonic'...
@@TheMountainHare have done it at least 3 times
11:02 because Noel's divorce.
Just my opinion, but Noel went from being in his house with his family to sitting alone in a hotel room. And that's the moment that you start to miss your old familial connections. You're sad, so you think of happier times. You make a phone call... And it's amazing how quickly you remember the great moments you shared.
You talk about manchester as if its some horrible backwater nowhere town. They didn't want to get out of Manchester as buy they did want to get some money and live in a nicer area (which they did when they moved to didsbury). I grew up in a posh part of Manchester and saw Liam Gallagher multiple times around at bars, this was between around 2000-2014.
I know people don’t like them because of their attitudes, or have some sort of just general dislike to them and maybe even just their music as reasons, but BELIEVE ME also ALOT of people love them! Including myself. Fuck those that can’t just accept it.
They defined a generation in the 90s and their songs are like anthems to people here in the UK. Even now 30 years later they still are relevant to people’s music purchases through streams and vinyls and have continued to bring in a younger audience to this day whom relate to Noel’s songs and lyrics and Liam as a frontman. They have B-sides bands can only dream as having A-sides like songs and have proven that with this reunion tour they are capable of selling out stadiums and people still have a massive interest in the band. Liam has recovered his voice to a good level again through his solo work and Noel still sounds great and is producing great songs through his High Flying Birds band.
They are the reason for bands like The Artic Monkeys, Kasabian and The Courtneers being formed today as a continuation of Uk indie music bands. Whether you like them or not they are icons.
The band still to the day in the UK are beloved and there is huge anticipation for them both being on stage as brothers again. Defining yet another milestone in 2025 Oasis quite simply are still THAT BAND ❤️🎸
I’m so excited they’ve reunited. I’m going to see them for the first time ever in Toronto next year and I absolutely can’t wait!!!
Yeah but 'Morning Glory' wouldn't have been the same without Liam and the band !
Liam was never in Rain. When he joined the remaining members of Rain he insisted on changing the name. Thus, Oasis was born.....
Fun fact: Noel and I share a birthday! I was also a really shy kid as well, which I didn't know that about him until watching your video! 😊
Happy birthday, whenever that is
@@jevinday Haha, thanks! It's already passed, May 29th is our shared birthday.
@@futuristic.handgunSAME!!!
@@ErdemBulbul-g2o Hell yeah, that's awesome!! I don't ever really come across a lot of people with the same birthday as me, so very cool! 😊
@futuristic.handgun yeah man 🔥
A childhood friend of mine was beat repeatedly by his father for swearing uncontrollably at inappropriate times. When he grew up, he was diagnosed with turrets syndrome. Time's were just different back in the 70's
He beat the talent into me ,there is so much wisdom in this statement
COS WE NEED EACH OTHER
WE BELIEVE IN ONE ANOTHER
OASIS LIVE FOREVER
THE MAIN MEN ARE BACK
FUCKIN CMON
What the first song Noel sang in front Liam and their group the rain
Liam was never part of the Rain, when he joined it became Oasis. And Noel actually liked their tunes and even suggested to record them but Liam didn't want to 'cause he trusted Noel's songs more. And he didn't bring the drunk guys of the pub INTO the studio or interferred the recording, the studio was already locked out. He brought them to the house where they were staying.
I heard the demo of live forever and Columbia and just blown away I heard the producer sang on Columbia. And Is the monnow valley is a alternate version?
Over familiarity breeds contempt
My babies are back ❤
Best band there ever was is and ever will be.
Ha! Jesus
Apart from Pink Floyd
@@purplesunflower8242 let the lady have her opinions, buddy. it's not always a dick measuring contest,
Apart from almost any other band.
Very sorry to hear about your lack of experience, @@luckybag6814
Liam is without a doubt mental. Gotta have worn down Noels patience over the decades.
Noel always came across aa the more restrained and less arrogant and brattish of the two.
You two have no idea what you’re talking about
@easterlinear No, you have no idea. Liam got knocked on his head in his teens, which changed
@lemsip207 Less brattish but definitely not less arrogant. Noel has always been so dismissive of Liam and the rest of the band
Great video. BTW, Noel is 5 years older than Liam.
The documentary is correct. Noel was born in 1967 and Liam in 1973 making the age gap of six years.
@@bipbippadotta3680Liam was born in 72
Oh. Wikipedia and IMDB both say 1972.
"So why are they now getting back together?" Money
Laughed out loud at "High Flying Turds." 😂😂😂
noel just keeps blooming with his writing
There was never a band like them up and until Mark Coyle left, says in the doco it basically sent him deaf.
Excellent vmate very cool and clear ! Thanks
Do you make documentaries as well ?
You didn't know how traumatic I thought it was, so how can you say it is my traumatic than I thought?
Great tunes they made together..
This was top notch. Superb quality David, thank you!
Well done video
Hands up if you think Liam is ADHD? Makes you wonder…..
Doesn't make you wonder at all... He's textbook ADHD
Noel had the tougher upbringing of the two but doesn't behave as badly as Liam. So there must be something about Liam's personality that makes him like that.
Liam seems much more Impulsive than Noel so I would definitely bet on him having ADHD even if it's just light. My friend has very strong ADHD to the point where he needs medication to function. I wouldn't put Liam in that category. Just light ADHD that makes him a bit of a loose cannon and makes him always speak his mind. Also makes him struggle to care about conversations that don't interest him.
@@oxsila He also had a head injury in his teens that altered his personality.
@@oxsilaI’ve worked for him; he most definitely does 😂
Great video! I wish you had, however, touched on what Noel did exactly, because, if it is just about releasing his versions of tracks, it seems like it may have had more to do with 1) not wanting to deal with Liam and 2) preferring not to encourage someone who has clearly interfered with his own band’s success on more than one ocassion (which I am writing as someone who likes them both).
That is so sad that he said his father’s beatings made him withdraw and so learned guitar…😢
This is an awesome video
It wasn’t ‘worse’ than any of us thought. It is a story about two narcissists that weep about their past, and have no social skills. Lots of us had abusive backgrounds. The final proof of the fact they are narcissists - Liam at least - is that none of us know much about the rest of the band. Their songs were okay, quite catchy even, so how do we not know the rest of the band?
Haha but they are world famous millionaires in a great band and you are a jealous nothing. I would rather be a narcissist that an envious jealous bitter critic nobody.
Did you play in oasis?
Noel is so sharp
I had problems with stutter just like Noel had.
The over-riding reason that Oasis is re-forming is $$$. All the rest is secondary. They can both see many millions to be made in a short period of time provided they can get through a limited amount of time in each others company.
I think this tour is for $$$. I hope it goes off smoothly, but time will tell.
I can understand a lot of the themes in Noel's lyrics in context with his childhood. Also understand his detatchment from Liam in the later years of Oasis. Maybe that was his way of coling/dealing with it. Then by 2009 the roof caved in.
Good job mate
I hope - for both Brothers’ sake, they hire a couple of guys that make sure the time Noel & Liam spend together off the stage is really limited.
Maybe it's just that Liam rebelled against Noel's authority in the band with his behavior. Maybe Liam just wanted to be respected by Noel. But who knows what's really going on in their heads
Proper lads and thank fuck for oasis nice 1 lads and good to see ya back on the road ❤
Gutted i couldn't get tickets they were to expensive i did see liam in July but seeing oasis back is going to be biblical ill sit outside croke park in Dublin and just listen 👂 to them 😢😢😢
We plan to stand in Heaton Park Manchester to listen we couldn’t get tickets🎵🎵
They are both great at what they do.
Liam has his faults but High Flying Turds had me on the floor, that man is just pure hilarity
absolute legends, in different ways.
But its also true, John Lennon ..is the main man.
Imagine Noels talent if he grew up with a good father… ❤ He would be too damn mighty
good video
You are brothers . Just love each other ok
you mentioned liam felt he was johns reincarnation even though he was born 8 years before johns death. its funny i felt the same and im born on johns birthday 1994.
Awful fathers, horrible people, forgettable as a band, thieves as musicians. Really happy they're getting back together.
Resilient ❤☘️
Falling down will be heard by more people good video as well a great exit song
Tone the booze drugs down or voice frapped Liam's vocal at Wembley did he warm up needs a vocal coach
Noel is a Genius.
One of the best.
Aargh Noel has morphed into my dad
It was traumatic watching them live thats for sure
Great video! Thanks!
Liam never matured beyond a 12 year old mindset.
😂😂
Amazing story.
They are brothers forever
Noel's still stuttering here and there...
I've noticed that as well. Not that often, but he struggles to find the exact words or repeats a word or two to clear his mind.
why is it ok if siblings bully each other