Our 2023 BRZ manual limited, totally stock, was absolutely brilliant earlier this month when we hit the hills around Bull Shoals, Harrison, Mountain Home, etc. in Arkansas. It's my wife's car and she wants to keep it stock, but I felt it was just great for semi-legal fun on sweepy roads.
It's definitely a fun car and handles well stock, but after I put the new suspension on it, world of a difference! Just depends on what you want to do.
I drive those roads too and they are fun! Stay quiet before they get crowded 🤫 Bikers slow ya down in corners. Maybe see you on my next vacation over there
Sprintex supercharger. That would be a modification us owners would love to have a review of. Especially as it looks like a superior conversion Vs the next best thing- HKS supercharger.
The car is very good & fun outta the box. Tint, subwoofers are always 1st mods. Exhaust, hood struts & brake pads for what needs upgrading. Springs/camber bolts along with pads turn the car into serious sports car. I’d try better shift knob over short shifter that often rattle a bit. Next will be dressing up interior lighting, rims & spoiler. This has been my list & order of mods on my ‘22 BRZ PS remove thick particulate filter from intake & gain 10+ HP!
Be careful with the short throw shifters, many have experienced rattles, including myself. Try a shorter knob first and see if you’re happy with the feel.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed had mine professionally installed by a master tech who used to work for Subaru whose clientele is 75% 86's and BRZ's. Some say it's the bushings. There's plenty of documentation out there if you search for shifter rattles on the 86 forums, or just google it... I'm just sayin, heads up there's a chance. I don't notice it if the radio's on and it's at specific RPM ranges only.
@@saixiong8196 this is wrong. Billetworkz themselves has been sending out larger bushings to address the issue and have admitted the rattles. Do some research.
Amazing video. This car is the funnest car I have, this is my second favorite car I own too the first one being my Ferrari F12 Novitec. Absolutely I love this car.
On my 1st gen I had lowering springs, intake, exhaust, and short shifter.. I 100% agree with and will be doing them on my gr86 as well. I also recommend getting a pedal riser for heel toe (pedal is too low) and also a pedal commander or alternative for better pedal response, and removing the clutch spring. Oh, and an elbow cushion and led light bulbs
Thanks for the video. The suspension does look cool and I’m sure it has its benefits but the thought of lowering my already super low car is wild to me. Cheers
This car actually has a ton of ground clearance. So lowering the car a bit really doesn't affect much. Car rides a lot better and handles better too. So just depends on what you want. We have lowering springs for the 86 on our website. Good option if you want a good blend of handling and style
oil coolers are definitely preferred for the track boiz, or try 5W-30 first I did 5W-30 and tracked it on a 103F day and had no issues. It definitely overheats with 0W-20
My mod is the back seat removal and replace with 2 Kicker L7 The lower part is Amp battery and amps with DSP The stock speakers replaced with Focal set up. That one aftermarket people don’t talk to much about
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Yea my mini I got 1000 Watts JL W7 and Hertz 3 way front& 2 way back My set up is for clean sound no booming rattling noise But what I was saying on that GR86 since the back seat is useless might as well put a nice system in it and the seats can still fold down to carry things too. Most of my cars I had the back seat transform into a stereo set up and still could fold the back seat down
Suspension, light wheels, and better tires are a no brainer. I really recommended the short shifter. It feels really good. I'm also debating the forced induction as it will be a $5k expense. An oil cooler and big brakes can really help if tracking the car at least 10 times a year. This is the kind of car that is easy to spend a lot on upgrades but like you said, you can only take it so far with all upgrades.
@Joshold I recommend the TRD short shifter. I think it makes the most sense since TRD is the official performance Toyota products brand. I'm not sure about how it compares with any other brands available.
Suspension isn't really a "no brainer," it's great out of the box. One could argue camber bolts are a no brainer because adding a couple degrees up front seems to eliminate almost all understeer.
I've wanted to lower mine, but concerns about clearance for speed bumps and general road hazards have kept me from doing that. That doesn't concern you?
I have the same concerns. In Michigan you want more clearance lol. Our roads are the worst in the country. I would sooner do front and rear sway bars. I might try that next. Car handles great stock.
I recently got my 86 about 2 months ago and I can’t wait to be able to start customizing it. Currently a bit tight on money but when I get the chance i wanna put a wide body kit and a spoiler on it forsure. Then I’ll probably end up adding the exhaust and idk from there but we’ll see. I gotta say that I do love this car so freaking much. I wanted it for so long and worked my butt off to be able to get it
i would do the basics for it since a wide body kit with no basics might look and sound a little funny haha my recommendation is exhaust suspension wheels and tires and any other goodies like taillights, spoiler etc then i would do the body kit haha
Great video, but I wish you had the camera mounted more to the left and aimed towards the steering wheel and dash, or even a pov angle so we can see what you're seeing.
got a gr about 3 months ago, and the first mods i thought about were springs, and some carbon on the body kit, i've been loving mine since i got it. also the fake engine sound is a litte gimmicky but if you're not a car guy then i can definitly see it benefiting the owner by "hearing" the engine right in your face... i unplugged mine asap.
Sorry, at 6:45 you switched to the camera angle I was looking for lol. I paused the video before that point to write my first comment. The 6:45 angle is the angle you should always use or a POV IMO. It's much better. 👍
As someone who started driving (and racing) at a time when cars actually DID need a lot of modifications in order to handle halfway decently, it always cracks me up when someone insist that a modern sports car like the GR86 “needs” modification. The fact of the matter is it doesn’t need jack shit unless you plan on making it into a dedicated track car. As it is, it’s the percent balance between track ready and practical street car. Speaking of the track, I would never take this guy’s car out on a track because it looks as if the tires would hit the fenders under hard cornering and that is a very bad thing indeed, especially in a car you are going to be racing. Actually now that I think about it there is one modification that this car does need before taking it on the track. Modifications need to be made that will keep the oil pick up from running dry during hard right hand cornering as this could ruin your engine. You also want to install an oil pressure gauge so that you can verify that this is not happening.
How do you feel the stock 86 performs? What are your thoughts after driving one with the stock suspension vs a suspension like what I installed? If you don't want to mod your car that's fine...I've felt a night and day difference with just the suspension on this car. It's already a great handling car, but the suspension makes it so much better! The tires will not hit the fenders, I know that from experience... How does a right hand turn differ from a left hand turn? I've been on the track several times and not once had an issue with right turns..
From a practicality viewpoint, don’t muck around with lowering and ride height on a street driven vehicle … you scrape on everything and then work out your diff bearing, bushes, ball joints etc etc all get hammered … then you start scalloping tyres … then if you bingle it and don’t have the modifications approved by your insurer …. sorry you’re not covered. Also remember it’ll corner faster which means when you hit something you’ll hit harder and do more damage. Short throw gear levers are also fun until you start wailing on the changes then wonder why the synchros get rooted and the box sounds like a rock crusher. I’d get rid of the silver wheels, ugly!
@@J_S209 I’ve never experienced any of those issues you have mentioned. Is this from your personal experience?? I don’t scrape on anything and have zero issues. Had short throws in the past and zero issues..
Short shifter length doesn't equal short throw (in fact you can have really long short throw shifters). Grabbing your shifter at the base isn't changing the throw length, just giving you less leverage.
Yeah most short shifters are actually longer underneath the pivot point. That's what makes the throw even shorter. However a physically short top part will still effectively shorten the throw. But generally you want a bit shorter then stock on the top, and a bit longer under the pivot to get a good shifter
At the moment I have a 2015 2.5s Altima... Im looking for a good sport car, reliable, affordable, and can drift. Ive been looking into the gr86 I like everything Ive been reading the only thing I dont like is its still a 4 cylinder....Im kind of wanting something with more power....What do you think?
These are some fun. Since they don't weigh much they do feel peppy. A 4 Cylinder Supra could be an option. Much quicker since it's turbocharged and handles really good too
Doesn't lowering the car cause problems over speedbumps and going up inclines? I'm all for suspension improvements as well as lighter wheels and wider tires, but lowering the car seems like it would be impractical.
Depends on how low you go. You don't have to slam a car to the ground. I hardly have any scraping issues around where I live. So just lower your car to a level that optimized handling without sacrificing clearance. Generally a 1in drop on a car is ideal
There's really no manufacture that sells a car lowered. A select few high performance cars would be. But would be regulations mainly and modifications aren't something that everyone does, so a stock vehicle is of course more reasonable for the majority of owners. It handles good for stock, but after lowering the car, night and day difference! Handling was vastly improved! So much better!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed back to the future too they convert the cars with hover conversion so the cars float. Sonnyball don’t tell me you don’t have never seen that movie back to the future too
@@BrosFOURRSpeed this is what Doc Brown talked about that the car under the window hover conversion for back to the future number two. That’s what I’m telling you to do with this vehicle.
@BrosFOURRSpeed Yes, for sure not useless at all, however most of them are highly debatable (i just add some drama here;). First things first, and first one is what i never recommend to anyone to start with. I'd say that clever suspension setup is the most overlooked thing. The most of people thinks that just grabbin some coilovers will make their car a super race car. But reality here is far away from it, there is no super universal suspension, there is a lot of compromises you'll get trying to achieve the goals, e.g. having stiff suspension would work efficient on flat tracks, but you'll completely loose any grip on tracks where surface just a bit rought. Stock suspension is accuralety calculated, setup to fit the most common use cases, it has enough velocity for daily use and even for track (we're talking about sport car, not a SUV or E-class;). When we change them to some other, we have to be sure what exact usage we're looking for, just because we'll lose a daily usage comfort trying to put a stiff one, and we'll get a poor drivability and no grip on just slightlty rough roads (this is most common case i've seen). Moreover, lowering the car... oh yes - cornering gets much more fun, but the other side of the story - bumps, which was not a problem before - will end up by loosing the grip, just because there is no enough suspension traveling to "eat" that bump. And only one peice of story is bumps on a straight, but when it's on the corners - it may leads to losing control over car as it gets no grip, an as the finish - worst lap time, compromises at daily driving, loss of comfort, etcetc. So I have to say, that such kind of tuning is a last tuning you have to do, only when you pushed the limits of the stock and clearly understand what exactly you're looking for. Yes, for special cases, with having a clear goal - it's justifibly, but not as a first resort. First things to improve could be - good tyres (most grippy ones), good brakes (disks+pads - oem shape, but graded for your goal). That's it! Just start with this, and only after understanding and pushing yourself driving on this setup up to the cap limit - go further.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed body kits - it's ok. however ir depends on exact kit we'll get. have to think over slight changes of aerodynamics and air flows, which is again for stock version are tested and verified for sure. with our modifications we may 1. change the balance of car on moderate speeds 2. change the flows, which may cause poor vents of brakes, radiatator etc. 3. slow down the car giving excess downforce 4. lowering the clearance 5. etcetc. But. If we know what we want and why - why not?) usually this mods not so noticable, but improves the look, which is important for 99% of "users")))
@@BrosFOURRSpeed exhaust. okay. sound - ok. but again, being a sequential - changing the exhaust should be followed with ecu tuning, as we change back pressure and flow dynamics works other way. usually we're not gaining any power, we're loss until ecu is not tuned accordingly. not super critical, and i'd say it's close to body-kits on a "weight" of this mod ;)
No one is “stuck” with manuals. What’s being faster have to do with anything? I prefer a manual, way more fun and engaging. If you like an auto, great, people are allowed to like manuals too..
@@BrosFOURRSpeed that’s my inevitable path. My 2017 GT86 needs more power and a LS with nice choppy cams seems like a fun idea. I’d like to be able to beat my mom’s Corvette and my GF’s 135i one day.
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Our 2023 BRZ manual limited, totally stock, was absolutely brilliant earlier this month when we hit the hills around Bull Shoals, Harrison, Mountain Home, etc. in Arkansas. It's my wife's car and she wants to keep it stock, but I felt it was just great for semi-legal fun on sweepy roads.
It's definitely a fun car and handles well stock, but after I put the new suspension on it, world of a difference! Just depends on what you want to do.
I drive those roads too and they are fun! Stay quiet before they get crowded 🤫 Bikers slow ya down in corners.
Maybe see you on my next vacation over there
Hwy 23,7 and 9 should be a blast in this car.
Just got a 2023 Toyota gr86 3 weeks ago and can’t wait to mod it! Especially the exhaust! Been loving it so far tho!❤️
Good choice!!! We have several parts on our website and can help you with those parts!
I have a 2024 Toyota GR86 im bout to order in 9 days as soon as its avaliable. Can't wait. Going from truck to a car and hopefully I enjoy it
Sprintex supercharger. That would be a modification us owners would love to have a review of. Especially as it looks like a superior conversion Vs the next best thing- HKS supercharger.
Yeah that'd be some fun! I'll have to look into that!
I definitely will be adding a high quality ceramic window tint. To keep the interior temperature down a bit; and protect the Alcantara from UV rays.
It's the first "mod" I would do to any car for sure!
The car is very good & fun outta the box. Tint, subwoofers are always 1st mods. Exhaust, hood struts & brake pads for what needs upgrading. Springs/camber bolts along with pads turn the car into serious sports car. I’d try better shift knob over short shifter that often rattle a bit.
Next will be dressing up interior lighting, rims & spoiler. This has been my list & order of mods on my ‘22 BRZ
PS remove thick particulate filter from intake & gain 10+ HP!
Glad you’ve enjoyed those for your car!
Be careful with the short throw shifters, many have experienced rattles, including myself. Try a shorter knob first and see if you’re happy with the feel.
That’s interesting to hear, wonder why it would rattle unless it wasn’t installed right.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed had mine professionally installed by a master tech who used to work for Subaru whose clientele is 75% 86's and BRZ's. Some say it's the bushings. There's plenty of documentation out there if you search for shifter rattles on the 86 forums, or just google it... I'm just sayin, heads up there's a chance. I don't notice it if the radio's on and it's at specific RPM ranges only.
I've also read forum posts about rattles from short throw shifters on this car, so I haven't made the move
rattles usually from incorrect installation
@@saixiong8196 this is wrong. Billetworkz themselves has been sending out larger bushings to address the issue and have admitted the rattles. Do some research.
Amazing video. This car is the funnest car I have, this is my second favorite car I own too the first one being my Ferrari F12 Novitec. Absolutely I love this car.
Mine came with the short throw shifter from factory and man it's great!
Factory? I don’t think any do. You buy it new or used?
@@BrosFOURRSpeedMy 2018 BRZ came with a short throw shifter as an option. Maybe the new ones have that option too.
@@saulespino2510 I’ve never heard of that. But it could be an option, just never seen that available.
On my 1st gen I had lowering springs, intake, exhaust, and short shifter.. I 100% agree with and will be doing them on my gr86 as well. I also recommend getting a pedal riser for heel toe (pedal is too low) and also a pedal commander or alternative for better pedal response, and removing the clutch spring. Oh, and an elbow cushion and led light bulbs
I never had any issues heal toe with the placement of the pedals!
But did have the pedal commander and it made a big difference!
The Leaves falling is STRAIGHT out of Gran Turismo 🥰
haha nice! Found a cool spot to film!
Thanks for the video. The suspension does look cool and I’m sure it has its benefits but the thought of lowering my already super low car is wild to me. Cheers
This car actually has a ton of ground clearance. So lowering the car a bit really doesn't affect much. Car rides a lot better and handles better too. So just depends on what you want. We have lowering springs for the 86 on our website. Good option if you want a good blend of handling and style
Yes, short throw shifter, short throw clutch if possible. Some folks do oil coolers on these.
That would be cool!
oil coolers are definitely preferred for the track boiz, or try 5W-30 first
I did 5W-30 and tracked it on a 103F day and had no issues.
It definitely overheats with 0W-20
@@zerotoux Yeah not a bad option either for heavy track use!
My mod is the back seat removal and replace with 2 Kicker L7
The lower part is Amp battery and amps with DSP
The stock speakers replaced with Focal set up.
That one aftermarket people don’t talk to much about
Glad you enjoy that, I'm fine with the stock setup for that..
@@BrosFOURRSpeed
Yea my mini I got 1000 Watts JL W7 and Hertz 3 way front& 2 way back
My set up is for clean sound no booming rattling noise
But what I was saying on that GR86 since the back seat is useless might as well put a nice system in it and the seats can still fold down to carry things too.
Most of my cars I had the back seat transform into a stereo set up and still could fold the back seat down
Suspension, light wheels, and better tires are a no brainer. I really recommended the short shifter. It feels really good. I'm also debating the forced induction as it will be a $5k expense. An oil cooler and big brakes can really help if tracking the car at least 10 times a year. This is the kind of car that is easy to spend a lot on upgrades but like you said, you can only take it so far with all upgrades.
It's certainly a fun car and easy to mod!
What short shifter do you recommend?
@Joshold
I recommend the TRD short shifter. I think it makes the most sense since TRD is the official performance Toyota products brand. I'm not sure about how it compares with any other brands available.
Suspension isn't really a "no brainer," it's great out of the box. One could argue camber bolts are a no brainer because adding a couple degrees up front seems to eliminate almost all understeer.
@@duffman2686 suspension was a night and day difference! Stock is good, but it drives so much better in the turns with the upgrade I did.
Just got mine today and I want to put a better exhaust maybe a fat one from magnaflow or straight pipe it like I did to my RX8
I've wanted to lower mine, but concerns about clearance for speed bumps and general road hazards have kept me from doing that. That doesn't concern you?
It doesn’t! I’m watchful in certain areas and am mindful of it, but even with the front lip, it doesn’t bother me.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed interesting, good to know. Thanks.
I have the same concerns. In Michigan you want more clearance lol. Our roads are the worst in the country. I would sooner do front and rear sway bars. I might try that next. Car handles great stock.
@@adamscenna it handles great, but handles so much better now! Just depends on what you want!
I recently got my 86 about 2 months ago and I can’t wait to be able to start customizing it. Currently a bit tight on money but when I get the chance i wanna put a wide body kit and a spoiler on it forsure. Then I’ll probably end up adding the exhaust and idk from there but we’ll see. I gotta say that I do love this car so freaking much. I wanted it for so long and worked my butt off to be able to get it
It's such a fun car to drive!! Congrats on hard work paying off!! You'll enjoy it for sure! Let us know how we can help you get the parts you want!!
i would do the basics for it since a wide body kit with no basics might look and sound a little funny haha my recommendation is exhaust suspension wheels and tires and any other goodies like taillights, spoiler etc then i would do the body kit haha
This and the BRZ are great looking cars. I think I'm in the minority but I like the looks of the BRZ better.
Yeah both are pretty sweet!
Great video, but I wish you had the camera mounted more to the left and aimed towards the steering wheel and dash, or even a pov angle so we can see what you're seeing.
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got a gr about 3 months ago, and the first mods i thought about were springs, and some carbon on the body kit, i've been loving mine since i got it. also the fake engine sound is a litte gimmicky but if you're not a car guy then i can definitly see it benefiting the owner by "hearing" the engine right in your face... i unplugged mine asap.
Yeah this is a fun car overall! Check out our website for more parts! www.brosfourrspeed.com
Helpful!! Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Very nice video bro!
Appreciate it!
i like that! Good mods!
Sorry, at 6:45 you switched to the camera angle I was looking for lol. I paused the video before that point to write my first comment. The 6:45 angle is the angle you should always use or a POV IMO. It's much better. 👍
Yeah we'll do videos with multiple angles for the most part lol
I wonder how many people bang up their cars due to little to no clearance, it looks cool but I'm not sure if I could ever do it
I’ve never had any issues with the low cars I’ve had, this is low but doesn’t even scrap speed bumps or anything. Just have to be aware.
It’s not a problem if you’re aware of curbs when parking. I have steep driveway & I clear
As someone who started driving (and racing) at a time when cars actually DID need a lot of modifications in order to handle halfway decently, it always cracks me up when someone insist that a modern sports car like the GR86 “needs” modification. The fact of the matter is it doesn’t need jack shit unless you plan on making it into a dedicated track car. As it is, it’s the percent balance between track ready and practical street car. Speaking of the track, I would never take this guy’s car out on a track because it looks as if the tires would hit the fenders under hard cornering and that is a very bad thing indeed, especially in a car you are going to be racing. Actually now that I think about it there is one modification that this car does need before taking it on the track. Modifications need to be made that will keep the oil pick up from running dry during hard right hand cornering as this could ruin your engine. You also want to install an oil pressure gauge so that you can verify that this is not happening.
How do you feel the stock 86 performs? What are your thoughts after driving one with the stock suspension vs a suspension like what I installed? If you don't want to mod your car that's fine...I've felt a night and day difference with just the suspension on this car. It's already a great handling car, but the suspension makes it so much better!
The tires will not hit the fenders, I know that from experience...
How does a right hand turn differ from a left hand turn? I've been on the track several times and not once had an issue with right turns..
From a practicality viewpoint, don’t muck around with lowering and ride height on a street driven vehicle … you scrape on everything and then work out your diff bearing, bushes, ball joints etc etc all get hammered … then you start scalloping tyres … then if you bingle it and don’t have the modifications approved by your insurer …. sorry you’re not covered. Also remember it’ll corner faster which means when you hit something you’ll hit harder and do more damage.
Short throw gear levers are also fun until you start wailing on the changes then wonder why the synchros get rooted and the box sounds like a rock crusher.
I’d get rid of the silver wheels, ugly!
@@J_S209 I’ve never experienced any of those issues you have mentioned. Is this from your personal experience??
I don’t scrape on anything and have zero issues. Had short throws in the past and zero issues..
exactly!
1000 miles in a couple months? Bruh you live close to EVERYTHING
It’s not my only car so I don’t drive it a lot.
Short shifter length doesn't equal short throw (in fact you can have really long short throw shifters). Grabbing your shifter at the base isn't changing the throw length, just giving you less leverage.
Yeah most short shifters are actually longer underneath the pivot point. That's what makes the throw even shorter. However a physically short top part will still effectively shorten the throw. But generally you want a bit shorter then stock on the top, and a bit longer under the pivot to get a good shifter
At the moment I have a 2015 2.5s Altima... Im looking for a good sport car, reliable, affordable, and can drift. Ive been looking into the gr86 I like everything Ive been reading the only thing I dont like is its still a 4 cylinder....Im kind of wanting something with more power....What do you think?
These are some fun. Since they don't weigh much they do feel peppy. A 4 Cylinder Supra could be an option. Much quicker since it's turbocharged and handles really good too
Doesn't lowering the car cause problems over speedbumps and going up inclines? I'm all for suspension improvements as well as lighter wheels and wider tires, but lowering the car seems like it would be impractical.
Depends on how low you go. You don't have to slam a car to the ground. I hardly have any scraping issues around where I live. So just lower your car to a level that optimized handling without sacrificing clearance. Generally a 1in drop on a car is ideal
What exhaust are you running? Didn't see or hear the brand/model
AWE. Recently posted all the videos with it.
brosfourrspeed.com/parts-%26-merchandise/ols/categories/toyota--subaru-frs86brz
@@BrosFOURRSpeed awesome, thanks!
@@BrosFOURRSpeedwich one the track or touring?
@@114.66 I installed both! So I have sound videos on both! I left the track one on for now
AWE touring is amazing & plenty loud. With seats down a bit excessive. If of concern try Borla.
Bros FOURR Speed- I have a question, why do you think the engineers at Toyota/ Subaru didn’t have the car lower straight from the factory?
There's really no manufacture that sells a car lowered. A select few high performance cars would be. But would be regulations mainly and modifications aren't something that everyone does, so a stock vehicle is of course more reasonable for the majority of owners. It handles good for stock, but after lowering the car, night and day difference! Handling was vastly improved! So much better!
I like that you did a hover conversion, and you don’t need wheels.
What’s a hover conversion?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed back to the future too they convert the cars with hover conversion so the cars float. Sonnyball don’t tell me you don’t have never seen that movie back to the future too
@@ericB3444 I’ve seen that movie, but you said I did a hover conversion which I didn’t.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed this is what Doc Brown talked about that the car under the window hover conversion for back to the future number two. That’s what I’m telling you to do with this vehicle.
Harrop supercharger and carbon fibre hood vents
I have varis hood with harrop supercharger pre-ordered. Can't wait. 514whp on the test car.
What would you consider a long-term car for yourself?
I’ve had a few for 8 years, but just depends on what I’m doing with the car.
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Thanks for checking out the video!
Did you say what size spacer? I might have missed it
20mm up front and 25mm in rear! th-cam.com/video/uwrSLLhYYt0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2O8eyD5KJSwnbiy8
@@BrosFOURRSpeed just watched your video of the spacer. Looks good!!!!
@@Indifference2000 thanks!
What size spacers
I did 20 and 25. Good setup
What size spacer was it
I went 20mm in front and 25mm in rear. th-cam.com/video/uwrSLLhYYt0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=af9wRJO7yr0gcfp7
Can you install a rear fog light on your GR86?
it already has one..
Kinda silly to talk about your wheel spacers and not mention what size spacers you have. What spacers does this 86 have?
That’s a whole video.. th-cam.com/video/uwrSLLhYYt0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TCcKhDQpv27gTGgI
20mm in the front and 25mm for rear.
i'm sorry, but... It's 7 useless modifications every owner never should start with. and the first one is the most ruinable one.
Interesting, why do you think that? I wouldn’t say they are useless at all.. what mods are on your 86?
@BrosFOURRSpeed Yes, for sure not useless at all, however most of them are highly debatable (i just add some drama here;). First things first, and first one is what i never recommend to anyone to start with. I'd say that clever suspension setup is the most overlooked thing. The most of people thinks that just grabbin some coilovers will make their car a super race car. But reality here is far away from it, there is no super universal suspension, there is a lot of compromises you'll get trying to achieve the goals, e.g. having stiff suspension would work efficient on flat tracks, but you'll completely loose any grip on tracks where surface just a bit rought. Stock suspension is accuralety calculated, setup to fit the most common use cases, it has enough velocity for daily use and even for track (we're talking about sport car, not a SUV or E-class;). When we change them to some other, we have to be sure what exact usage we're looking for, just because we'll lose a daily usage comfort trying to put a stiff one, and we'll get a poor drivability and no grip on just slightlty rough roads (this is most common case i've seen). Moreover, lowering the car... oh yes - cornering gets much more fun, but the other side of the story - bumps, which was not a problem before - will end up by loosing the grip, just because there is no enough suspension traveling to "eat" that bump. And only one peice of story is bumps on a straight, but when it's on the corners - it may leads to losing control over car as it gets no grip, an as the finish - worst lap time, compromises at daily driving, loss of comfort, etcetc. So I have to say, that such kind of tuning is a last tuning you have to do, only when you pushed the limits of the stock and clearly understand what exactly you're looking for. Yes, for special cases, with having a clear goal - it's justifibly, but not as a first resort.
First things to improve could be - good tyres (most grippy ones), good brakes (disks+pads - oem shape, but graded for your goal). That's it! Just start with this, and only after understanding and pushing yourself driving on this setup up to the cap limit - go further.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed hood struts I'll support;) just a bit of weight, but so much pros
@@BrosFOURRSpeed body kits - it's ok. however ir depends on exact kit we'll get. have to think over slight changes of aerodynamics and air flows, which is again for stock version are tested and verified for sure. with our modifications we may 1. change the balance of car on moderate speeds 2. change the flows, which may cause poor vents of brakes, radiatator etc. 3. slow down the car giving excess downforce 4. lowering the clearance 5. etcetc. But. If we know what we want and why - why not?) usually this mods not so noticable, but improves the look, which is important for 99% of "users")))
@@BrosFOURRSpeed exhaust. okay. sound - ok. but again, being a sequential - changing the exhaust should be followed with ecu tuning, as we change back pressure and flow dynamics works other way. usually we're not gaining any power, we're loss until ecu is not tuned accordingly. not super critical, and i'd say it's close to body-kits on a "weight" of this mod ;)
Top 10 list of things that are not in the description as stated: 1. The exhaust...
The exhaust is mentioned in the description, it’s right with the intake…
But not sure what that has to do with anything..
Why are we still stuck in manuals when the autos are faster?
No one is “stuck” with manuals. What’s being faster have to do with anything?
I prefer a manual, way more fun and engaging. If you like an auto, great, people are allowed to like manuals too..
The auto is almost a second slower to 60mph
LS swap…
haha that'd be cool!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed that’s my inevitable path. My 2017 GT86 needs more power and a LS with nice choppy cams seems like a fun idea. I’d like to be able to beat my mom’s Corvette and my GF’s 135i one day.