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Is the Rode Lavalier II microphone any good for motovlogging? Comparison with Tram TR50.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2024
- I have been looking for a cheaper alternative to my Tram TR50 mics for a while and got quite a surprise when I tested this Rode Lavalier II microphone. If you enjoy this comparison video please consider subscribing.
Many Thanks,
Dave.
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Camera kit used in my vlogs:
Insta 360 One RS, Insta 360 Go II, Sony A7Siii, 2XGoPro Hero10's with media mods, Insta 360 One X2, Insta Go 2, Rode Wireless Go radio mic system, in camera mic is the Rode Lavalier II microphone. I also use the Tram TR50 mic. Intercom is Sena which integrates into my helmet. Drone is the DJI Mavic2 pro. I use Polar Pro ND filters on the GoPro cameras and the drone.
Helmet: Shoei GT Airll, Scorpion ADX 1.
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Thank you so much for this review. Also, i am going to buy a whole motorcycle set! Keep going with the perfect reviews & video's. Love them. Greetings from The Netherlands.
Thank you! Very helpful review!Just bought it for 99,00€. Now going for insta360 x3 and get back to game.
Great video thank you!
Rode is a cleaner and i definitely prefer it. And a vast improvement over my older Rode lap mike. Wouldn't want the gain to be any higher though. Another 125 Euro you have cost me Dave! :)
🤣🤣 💷 💷
Ok you’re reading my mind. I wanted the RS660 and I also have the Rode in my Amazon shopping cart. Lol! I actually really love the Rode quality. Definitely worth the investment! Thanks for making this video!
Yes, I’m looking forward to testing that mic on board the RS660.
This would be great for my insta360 one rs camera. it has a level option by just tapping the sound level on screen. perfect for cutting off the edge.
wow the rode is great. thank you!
RODE Lavalier definitly gets my vote! Its the clear winner, hands down!
Agreed.👍🏍
😂! Great dad joke. Made me chuckle. Thanks for this review.🤙🏼
Hello Dave, Thanks for the video. I think Rode sounds better but the tram seems to have more potential if the audio is edited/enhanced. I wanted to buy the tram but you have saved me a lot of money. Thanks
Exactly my thoughts too Felix. Thanks for the feedback.👍🎥
Great timing on that one Dave. I’m following your recommendations very closely as I am about to embark on a two-week plus Motorcycle ride from Las Vegas to California. I’ll be starting in Connecticut, flying to Vegas to pick up a used motorcycle, 2015 FGR 1300, and then off to ride those beautiful canyons in Southern California. So now I know exactly what microphone I’m going to buy, and I truly wonder which camera you would take with you? Keep in mind of radio reviews, would you take the Insta 364 in GoPro10 on my trip? I’m also bringing my old GoPro session 5. Many thanks for the great inspirational content!
I’m so jealous! That sounds like an incredible trip. The more I’ve used the Rode mic since making the review, the more I’m impressed with it. One thing to bare in mind is that it comes with a gold screw collar which is to screw into Senheiser Radio mics. Make sure you unscrew this collar and get rid of it as this will give you a more secure fit into the back of a GoPro. I got caught out with this a couple of times where it hadn’t just made the connection. My cameras of choice for your trip would be exactly what you have chosen. The GoPro 10 and Insta 360 one X2. But I would be bringing two GoPro 10’s because of their unreliability. Have a great trip!
Agree. I like them sound out of the Rode as well. Maybe the Tram can be massaged to sound as good/better (think of a Raw file from a nice dslr compared to a nice jpeg from a decent point and shoot), but for plug and play, the Rode wins. Saw an interesting vid from Manning about audio adjustments he does on all his videos, compression, noise reduction, and output adjust, which was really informative. But, that’s still a wee bit more production time, so for a quick vlog I like the Rode.
Totally agree Steve. I’ll watch his video too.
I have the tram and Sony ECM 77 handling around that I no longer use. I was going to try those out for vlogging later in the year but now I have heard this Rode I can’t see the point.
For me the Tram was at the time really good for under clothing if I was doing interviews as it handles tussling a lot better and also a nicer flatter mic so didn’t stand out much at all.
Like you been a cameraman over 30 years, so have lots of gear hanging around. These newer mins are a lot brighter I think.
Keep up the good work 👍
I knew as soon as you said you had both those mics you must be in the business😉🎥. Just be careful of the Rode over modding a little depending on placement.
@@WheelieGoodTV thanks for that, is there any way to add padding to the input at all? It’s odd, we use higher end get only to find that the domestic “prosumer” market is a better fit for the job.
It’s like I’m learning all over again!
Going through and robbing your work for gear ideas. Hope you don’t mind :)
Me thinks you should have been the onscreen talent years ago? You are a natural. I suspect like me you had thoughts at points thinking just do this and say that to certain talent. I know I have had those thoughts in the past. Also bad thoughts on take 18!!
@@mollyfilms 🤣🤣 I’m familiar with all those thoughts about presenters!🤯 Do you have your channel up and running? If so, let me know the name. Glad to be of help and no such thing as keeping knowledge to myself anymore, I’m very happy to share. 🤗
Rode II, excelent audio.
Hi Dave the rode microphone sounds more natural but like you said any louder it could get distorted.
Now the tram microphone sounds very clear to me but sounds a bit artificial as in muffled to much artificial sound a bit more mid and high range lifting up a bit
NO Offence here just my thoughts than again I’m 61 this year half deaf and most of the time all I hear is high pitched whistling in my ears with my tinnitus 👍👍🙏 ride safe and stay safe
Yes I’ll be keeping an eye on the levels alright. 👍🏍
Great video! I was curious where you have the microphone mounted in the helmet? Eg. Directly in front of your mouth. In a cheek pad. Etc.
Hi Andrew, yes I mount it right in front of my mouth wrapped in foam.
Nice comparison on the 2 mike's Dave ,the rode sounded better imo 👍🏻
Agreed Dale.👍🎥
The Rode sounds great with your voice but also captures some balance of the bike noise. Its more real world. If the prices were the other way around id still say the Rode. A very easy answer from my perspective
Good feedback. Thanks Scotty.
The Rode 11 sounds better, and at the price difference-a no brainer. My 1250 RS also has a pornographic note when on the throttle. Those Appros sure sound nice. TMF mentioned you one day. Now I'm subscribed to another (my age group) rider. As an American, I'm really enjoying seeing your countryside. Just another simple minded human. 👍👍🏍🏍🏍🙋♂️
Thanks for that feedback John. Much appreciated. 👍🎥
I use the Rode in all my helmets, seems to suit the GoPro 9 and 10 perfectly.
Yes, totally agree. 👍🏍
Guess this will pair good insta 360x2?
Much clearer on the Rode, the tram sounds muffled. Never noticed until you did the back to back
Neither did I Dylan. I always knew that the Tram needed a little bit of tweaking but for straight out the camera the Rode is excellent.
Wow the sibilance is great on the lav II! Did you use the deadcat on it? Would still love to see you test the movo acm400, it is super cheap! If i had the money i would get the rode lav II but for now the acm400 with double foam cover gives me really good results. If you would like to have a listen i have it on my ch. Cheers!
I watched your videos and you sound excellent. What wind foam are you using?
With the Tram I cover it with a small piece of sponge 🧽 but I just use the supplied furry windshield with the Rode.👍🎥
@@felixreed5381 not sure if this is @ me but if it is, i just use the one that came with the mic and doubled up with a cheap foam.
really nice video. Be interested to know if you also tested the Rode Lavalier Go?
Hi Steven, unfortunately I never used the original Lavalier Go so I’m afraid I can’t compare. Thanks for the feedback though. 👍🏍
The Rode Lavalier and the Rode Lavalier Go are two completely different microphones. The former is a more expensive mic the uses Rode’s proprietary MiCon adapters, whereas the latter is a budget mic that’s supposed to sound like the built-in mics on the Rode Wireless Go (hence the “Go” suffix).
Can you share where you're mounting your mic? When I try the Rode mic with my GoPro the audio is both too hot and REALLY windy. I don't hear much wind at all in your audio, amazing.
Yes I mount it just sticking out of the side cheek pad so it’s not directly in front of my mouth. I also put the fluffy wind gag on and then place a small cut of bath sponge over the top and tape that all in place. Hope that helps.
@@WheelieGoodTV That helps quite a bit, thank you.
Hello Dave, Here Rode is the definite winner. But I have couple of questions.
Did you connect Rode Lavalier to the rode wireless go system in this video?
Can we connect Rode Lavalier to insta 360x3 directly?
Hi, actually both mics were plugged directly into the camera via the media mod in this vid. No Rode system involved. 👌
Rode Lavalier II does sound cleaner to me and being cheaper has to be a win, win
Completely agree!👍🎥
Where do you position this lav. I have it but I got slight capsule overload. Idk bkw to re tiny that with the gopro ;(
Right in front of my mouth but surround it in sponge.
The Rode microphone is providing a lot cleaner sound, doesn't sound as muffled and just all-round nicer.
Totally agree Stuart.👍🏍
Check and mate! Rode for the win 🎙🥇
Totally. 👍
Hi Dave, The Tram sounds muted..Prefer the Rode. 👍
Hi Trev. I think everyone prefers the Rode. I could have saved myself a fortune! 😖
OK so this is just my opinion. I think the TR50 is superior but too sanitized. Whereas the Rode has a little more road/engine noise! I can still hear your voice and I prefer this sound mix. I have struggled with this and have asked you for advice in the past. So more in depth would be appreciated camera setup and mic position inside your helmet. Ta!! Murt 🏍 💨
I’ll try and get round to that Murt.👍🎥
@@WheelieGoodTV whenever you get time Dave. I'm 99% there but I'm a bit hit and miss sometimes. I'll be back in Eire Friday 11th! I'll give you a wave! 👍🏍💨💨
def rode mate
Hi Dave, I came across your video as I was looking for a solution to the really bad sound I am getting from my Rode Wireless Go 2 which I have set up for motovlogging. I bought an inexpensive lavalier mic connected to my Rode Wireless Go 2 transmitter which I attached inside my helmet almost right where my mouth is. When I am stationary this is fine but once i start riding all I can hear is the wind noise and the sound of the engine, both sounds completely overpower my voice. The sound quality you get from your helmet mounted lavalier mic is super and all the background noise from wind and engine don’t overpower your voice which is crisp and clear. My question to you is what Gain level did you set your Rode receiver to to achieve this and is the Rode Lavalier II the only reason for such crisp sound or is much done during the editing process? I am getting desperate here and even tried putting the transmitter with dead cat inside my helmet but still got the same outcome. Any suggestions would be great and thanks for the great videos you put out! I have learnt a lot! Cheers !
Hi Justin, I used the lowest gain settings on everything. Even now I use a totally different system (DJI Osmo Action 3 camera + DJI wireless mic) everything is set to the lowest it can go. I remember sometimes even using the system you mention, I would still get some distortion as that mic runs a bit ‘hot’. What your using should still provide good results though. 🤔🙏
@@WheelieGoodTV Wow Dave thanks for the quick response! This is very helpful and I was so tempted to go for the DJI set but I guess we live and learn ! I’ll give it a go as you suggested and see how I go. Just wanted to get this sorted before my Thai overland trip next week! Many thanks for the super videos and I have learnt so much! Thanks to you Dave! Safe riding and greetings from Penang Malaysia!
The Rode sounds better to my ears. If I'm honest I don’t think my budget can stretch to one mind. I've been using a £5.95 Hamo Laptop microphone, that in all honesty doesn't sound quite as nice but perfectly clear and and doesn't clip in higher wind noise.
I’ve heard your audio and it works great.👍
My vote is for the rode 👍
Mine too buddy.👍🎥
I am confused now. In another VID you said you should use a unidirectional mic and now you bought a omnidirectional one... can you elaborate on that ?
I remember that vid too. Unfortunately I can’t eloborate as this just sounds great which I was surprised about especially since it’s an omni. I have however tested it in my other helmet and on the RS660 which is much louder and it didn’t perform so good which brings me back to the statement I made last year about using an uni especially on louder bikes. Price is always an indicator of quality in my eyes and the Tram TR50 albeit needing a little tweaking in post is definitely a much more solid mic for handling all noise. For the majority of motovlogging though, the Rode will be just fine. Hope this makes a little more sense.
@@WheelieGoodTV It does. Thanks for clarifying 'so quickly'. Price is indeed a indidator, but there's also the marketing balloon you have to puncture.
The rode sounds so much better to me Dave, but I don't have your proffesional ears!!🤣
Straight out of the cam it’s definitely better but I would worry about distortion on a louder bike. I shall be doing a lot more testing over the coming weeks.
I also have the Rode Lavaier II but my Microphone is always peaking and sounds horrible :(
Anything I can do? (it literally sounds the same as a 14€ Mic on Amazon)
Depends what camera you’re using. It works fine on the Insta and DJI cameras but over mods on a GoPro.
@@WheelieGoodTV Yes, I have the GoPro Hero 11 Mini with a Micadapter on it.. I have to test if it works properly on a usual GoPro Hero 11 or not..
Rode Lavalier II much clearer and better for me with more ‘Treble’ as such, Tram seems to be too much bass in comparison
Agreed Ian.👍🏍
While I suspect the Tram mic output can be edited to give you a more finished product, the Rode mic output was better from the standpoint of understanding your commentary. The Rode also allowed one to hear the motorbike engine better. Lastly, the price is hard to beat. Regarding the clipping, I assume further experimentation with your microphone placement, wind protection, and editing will improve that situation. I agree with and support your decision.
Thanks for the feedback Bill. Completely my thoughts too.
There's only one winner here, clearly and it's not the TRAM50.
Prefer the rode levallier
More of a real world sound 👍👍
Likewise Darren!👍🏍
The rode Mic does sound better. 👍🏼
Totally agree.
The Rode is so much better.
Totally agree!
RL II so much better as you'll know by now!
Absolutely.👍🏍
Rode definitely better
Defo.👍