To the Republicans or any American who says this is not our fight, ya need to read the history of the second world war. And I mean the political history. We, America doesn't live in a blissful vacuum where we can ignore the problems of the rest of the world while we suckle on the nectar of prosperity. Grow up.
It wasn't the Republican party that was tired to supporting Ukraine, it was the maga faction and trump that aligned itself to Putin, which is very worrying. Overall the American politicians back Ukraine, even with the desenting maga faction, shown by the ease of which the bill was passed once it was allowed to be voted on. Ukraine's security and sovereignty matters, we should've supported them in 2014 when Putin took Crimea by force. ❤🇺🇦🇬🇧🇺🇸❤
So, you think you should ave gone all-in back in 2014 to support a country that: a) that isn´t part of NATO or b) isn´t part of the EU Why? Like the first reply said, _´you blue anon whackos´_
“A team of researchers at the University of Adelaide have found that as many as 80 percent of tweets about the 2022 Russia-Ukraine invasion in its early weeks were part of a covert propaganda campaign originating from automated fake ‘bot’ accounts. An anti-Russia propaganda campaign originating from a ‘bot army’ of fake automated Twitter accounts flooded the internet at the start of the war. The research shows of the more than 5-million tweets studied, 90.2 percent of all tweets (both bot and non-bot) came from accounts that were pro-Ukraine, with fewer than 7 percent of the accounts being classed as pro-Russian. The university researchers also found these automated tweets had been purposely used to drive up fear amongst people targeted by them, boosting a high level of statistically measurable ‘angst’ in the online discourse. The research team analysed a massively unprecedented 5,203,746 tweets, sent with key hashtags, in the first two weeks of the Russian invasion of Ukraine from 24 February this year. The researchers considered predominately English-language accounts, with a calculated 1.8-million unique Twitter accounts in the dataset posting at least one English-language tweet. The results were published in August in a research paper, titled “#IStandWithPutin versus #IStandWithUkraine: The interaction of bots and humans in discussion of the Russia/Ukraine war“, by the University of Adelaide’s School of Mathematical Science. The size of the sample under study, of over 5-million tweets, dwarfs other recent studies of covert propaganda in social media surrounding the Ukraine war. The little-reported Stanford University/Graphika research on Western disinformation, analysed by Declassified Australia in September, examined just under 300,000 tweets from 146 Twitter accounts. The Meta/Facebook research on Russian disinformation reported widely by mainstream media, including the ABC a fortnight later, looked at 1,600 Facebook accounts. Reports on the new research have appeared in a few independent media sites, and in Russia’s RT, but not much else, so revealing the burial of stories that don’t fit the desired pro-Western narrative. This ground-breaking study, exposing a massive anti-Russia social media disinformation campaign, has been effectively ignored by the mainstream Western establishment media. It’s become almost routine during the Russia-Ukraine war. The Adelaide University researchers unearthed a massive organised pro-Ukraine influence operation underway from the early stages of the conflict. Overall the study found automated ‘bot’ accounts to be the source of between 60 to 80 percent of all tweets in the dataset. The published data shows that in the first week of the Ukraine-Russia war there was a huge mass of pro-Ukrainian hashtag bot activity. Approximately 3.5 million tweets using the hashtag #IStandWithUkraine were sent by bots in that first week. In fact, it was like someone had flicked a switch, when at the start of the war on 24 February, pro-Ukraine bot activity suddenly burst into life. In that first day of the war the #IStandWithUkraine hashtag was used in as many as 38,000 tweets each hour, rising to 50,000 tweets an hour by day three of the war.” - Peter Cronau, Declassified Australia, November 3, 2022
Are these ATACMS not limited to the 102 Miles or 165 Km like the previous shipment? About the TAURUS it is no longer in production it has been produced in limited numbers and Germany has maybe between 150 to 250 of these Taurus missiles. Now the production line of these missile might be re-instated but this is not clear yet. I do wish that the Germain Government would make a decision to get these missiles back into production, if not give a clear answer why not. Is there something wrong with the missile or maybe the production itself.
@@ro0140 There are two variants. Ukraine has thus far received the "short-range" variant (they have a different name but I can't think of it) but it seems like they will now be getting the long-range as well, which has almost 3x the range
The democrats here in the US wanted the aid for Ukraine , but the republicans ( under Trump ) said no . Speaker Mike Johnson (R) gave the nod to give $ 62 billion . Thank God .
..of which Ukraine will receive about $14billion, some in old kit from US armouries and the rest in credit to buy other stuff back from the Arabs they sold it to - but only if they want to.
To a certain extent we in Europe (the continent that incited at least 2 world wars) should be ashamed that we cannot supply Ukraine with the military equipment that they need to win this war and have to look at the USA for help!
I've lived in Darwin since 1991, and watched the effective imprisonment without trial of asylum seekers on Manus Island, the attempts of the Australian government to prevent information about their condition getting out, the spiralling into self-harm of despairing children. The Australian government was quite content to hold these people offshore indefinitely, not for what they had done, but as an ongoing warning to others intending to make the journey. Yes, the policy did stop the boats, but at what human cost? Most societies punish an individual for a crime they've committed; they don't punish a person for a crime someone else might commit in the future! The mal-treatment by guards, sexual or otherwise, lack of medical and psychological support - for the asylum seekers on Manus Island, a nightmare potentially without end. Utterly barbaric. I was ashamed to be Australian. A child of empire and a dual national, I fear I'm about to be ashamed to be British too. I have spent time in West Africa, the Congo, but not Rwanda. Nevertheless, any treaty designed to protect deportees is, I believe, not worth the paper it's written on.
It’s easier to be rich and buy a visa to Australia. The rich immigrants buy up houses, now we are homeless. The government focussed on a few boats . I reckon Australia would be a better country if we said people can only come to Australia if they can come on a small boat. These people will have the grit and determination we need for a future nation. Instead we have greedy foreigners
@@Jorrr-tj6su It is, as our governments (both flavours) reclassified all refugees and asylum seekers coming by water as illegal immigrants and criminals. They have aa choice of a lifetime in a concentration camp or refoulement, unless some kind third country accepts them.
Ukrainian Warriors and President Zelensky, you amaze the World with your Courage, Strength and Determination... All it takes for Evil to win is for Good to do nothing. We can achieve anything when we all work together... God Bless Ukraine from the UK
Truth. Their sacrifice is for their freedom and liberty. To have their own country, as devastated as it will be, for their children to grow and be a part of the free world as they had decided in 30 years ago.
@@govinda102000650k military age men fled Ukraine to escape mobilization and more would like to if they could. Ukraine is in a dire situation of their own making unrelated to outside aid.
@@Rtg5637 I think a great deal more of you guys fled Russia. Nearly 70k just to the U.S. last year. Where are you? The ironic thing is you guys are fleeing to free and democratic countries but you refuse to fight to imprison Ukranians to live as zombies under your Putler.
Ukrajina je agresor zapomínas jak vraždili ukrajinští fašisté ruské menšiny parali břicha těhotných žen a plody napichovali na bodaky jak trofej palili lidi za živá a ty říkáš ubožáci přečti si dějiny a ne propagandu😂
Recently I have been watching and reading more US political comment than is healthy, listening to our politicians discussing our issues makes me really proud to be a Brit. Courtesy , decorum, agreement on common ground whilst putting alternative points are what serious politics should be about. An excellent discussion between respectful adults where the result was qualified agreement. Host was perfect too...
Good point! Im not british, but being accustomed to watching the current sideshow that is american politics, this was a real pleasure. Kuodos to you and your fellow brits. Scandinavia supports you and Ukraine. Europeans must all wake up and stand together once more.
What do you mean by bored? A problem doesn’t get solved just because you are bored it gets solved by you hanging in and keep on fighting and contribute with whatever you can whenever you can… I think it’s more the journalist who wants to have a story or the Russian propaganda who gets through to some people. I’m from Denmark and we follow it closely. We have our daily live here in Denmark, but we don’t get bored hearing about how we can help Ukraine.
I would have 1 million Ukrainians, before 1☪️ ,at least the first generation Ukrainians will mix with our people, they won't, if you're British you must see that
Tony Abbott tried the same thing in Australia, it didn't work PNG decided they wouldn't keep them unless they kept getting paid, with the threat to help them travel back to Australia. Those that were stockpiled on Nauru eventually had to be released into Australia when the high court outlawed indefinite detention for people that had committed no crime. The UK House of Lords will strike down exporting of immigrants and indefinite detention.
This moment reminds me of when I was a kid and a bully five years older than me was messing with me. Then I went home and got my big brother. The guy was quiet as a mouse. Ohhh, who's the big bully now?
“A team of researchers at the University of Adelaide have found that as many as 80 percent of tweets about the 2022 Russia-Ukraine invasion in its early weeks were part of a covert propaganda campaign originating from automated fake ‘bot’ accounts. An anti-Russia propaganda campaign originating from a ‘bot army’ of fake automated Twitter accounts flooded the internet at the start of the war. The research shows of the more than 5-million tweets studied, 90.2 percent of all tweets (both bot and non-bot) came from accounts that were pro-Ukraine, with fewer than 7 percent of the accounts being classed as pro-Russian. The university researchers also found these automated tweets had been purposely used to drive up fear amongst people targeted by them, boosting a high level of statistically measurable ‘angst’ in the online discourse. The research team analysed a massively unprecedented 5,203,746 tweets, sent with key hashtags, in the first two weeks of the Russian invasion of Ukraine from 24 February this year. The researchers considered predominately English-language accounts, with a calculated 1.8-million unique Twitter accounts in the dataset posting at least one English-language tweet. The results were published in August in a research paper, titled “#IStandWithPutin versus #IStandWithUkraine: The interaction of bots and humans in discussion of the Russia/Ukraine war“, by the University of Adelaide’s School of Mathematical Science. The size of the sample under study, of over 5-million tweets, dwarfs other recent studies of covert propaganda in social media surrounding the Ukraine war. The little-reported Stanford University/Graphika research on Western disinformation, analysed by Declassified Australia in September, examined just under 300,000 tweets from 146 Twitter accounts. The Meta/Facebook research on Russian disinformation reported widely by mainstream media, including the ABC a fortnight later, looked at 1,600 Facebook accounts. Reports on the new research have appeared in a few independent media sites, and in Russia’s RT, but not much else, so revealing the burial of stories that don’t fit the desired pro-Western narrative. This ground-breaking study, exposing a massive anti-Russia social media disinformation campaign, has been effectively ignored by the mainstream Western establishment media. It’s become almost routine during the Russia-Ukraine war.” - Declassified Australia, November 3, 2022
@@alien4422 🥱 that was all tired out last year kiddo, read the room. “A team of researchers at the University of Adelaide have found that as many as 80 percent of tweets about the 2022 Russia-Ukraine invasion in its early weeks were part of a covert propaganda campaign originating from automated fake ‘bot’ accounts. An anti-Russia propaganda campaign originating from a ‘bot army’ of fake automated Twitter accounts flooded the internet at the start of the war. The research shows of the more than 5-million tweets studied, 90.2 percent of all tweets (both bot and non-bot) came from accounts that were pro-Ukraine, with fewer than 7 percent of the accounts being classed as pro-Russian. The university researchers also found these automated tweets had been purposely used to drive up fear amongst people targeted by them, boosting a high level of statistically measurable ‘angst’ in the online discourse. The research team analysed a massively unprecedented 5,203,746 tweets, sent with key hashtags, in the first two weeks of the Russian invasion of Ukraine from 24 February this year. The researchers considered predominately English-language accounts, with a calculated 1.8-million unique Twitter accounts in the dataset posting at least one English-language tweet. The results were published in August in a research paper, titled “#IStandWithPutin versus #IStandWithUkraine: The interaction of bots and humans in discussion of the Russia/Ukraine war“, by the University of Adelaide’s School of Mathematical Science. The size of the sample under study, of over 5-million tweets, dwarfs other recent studies of covert propaganda in social media surrounding the Ukraine war. The little-reported Stanford University/Graphika research on Western disinformation, analysed by Declassified Australia in September, examined just under 300,000 tweets from 146 Twitter accounts. The Meta/Facebook research on Russian disinformation reported widely by mainstream media, including the ABC a fortnight later, looked at 1,600 Facebook accounts. Reports on the new research have appeared in a few independent media sites, and in Russia’s RT, but not much else, so revealing the burial of stories that don’t fit the desired pro-Western narrative. This ground-breaking study, exposing a massive anti-Russia social media disinformation campaign, has been effectively ignored by the mainstream Western establishment media. It’s become almost routine during the Russia-Ukraine war.” - Declassified Australia, November 3, 2022
Thanks Lorenzo. I will study your response. I am no military expert but I try to learn as such as I can. There is alot of information out there. Hard to keep up. Especially now. Everything seems to be speeding up.
The latest intelligence is that the usable Russian equipment stocks are lower than thought and eighteen months may be the upper end of the breaking point. They are already losing tanks faster than they can replace them.
I'm in NY. As big as the US is, we certainly feel the issues with illegal migrants. The US south is very irritated to say the least. We are working on solutions, but it's not great. At least we sent a pretty big deal to Ukraine. It does signal continued support. It is difficult during national election years. Russia ramped up their war efforts, they have kids in arms factories. Ukraine is going to need some real support. Still, you can't downplay how much newer ATACMS and Patriots are going to hurt. That's just the tip of the spear anyway, but the Russians have no choice but to get cozy and deal with it. I like to believe the west was just waiting for Russia to hit max, so a real victory scenario could get worked out.
The 60 billion US bill includes 20 billion of repayment for stuff Ukraine got last year. Also 15 billion for US intelligence suport from last year. In fact Ukraine can buy $15 billion of old US equipment at inflated prices.
America does care Not less. It is not true. You cannot give so much without caring. I think a request for manpower may be possible from the whole world.
All the aid to Ukraine is right and important. But the aid still seems to be aimed at keeping Ukraine from loosing the war and not straight up winning it.
@@Rtg5637 With no air cover, no navy, they gave up all their nukes so as not to be invaded. Sorry, the West is impotent and unreliable. The US won't even let them attack oil refineries in Russia. Anyway, you are an orc.
@@Deathadder90 Exposing truth helps Ukraine correct its mistakes. Hiding it like you prefer prolongs the war and prevents victory. Such childish approach like yours helps Russians if you realize it or not.
Wow Britain is rich. I know my country could not afford the amount of money that Britain has given to UKRAINE. I thought that Britain was having some type of debt crisis?
Seventh richest country in the world. So rich that the government have wasted or stolen hundreds of billions of pounds over the last 14 years and the majority of the population are getting by okay.
🤣🤣🤣The only thing Ukraine has won since this wat begun is Eurovision. Wake up, Ukraine has lost, stop the bloodshed and agree to a land settlement......al;ternatively watch another half a million , million lives lost and the country runed to rubble
The line is not going to move much even with all this aid. But it might make Russia want to talk. The mass of iron needed is still not being sent. 100's of advanced fighters needed without missile shortages in a month.
Tactically, Russia has to go hard now with everything they have in their power to win the war, especially that Ukraine has little weapon material now to resist. it is always a puzzle and now they have the advantage
The question to be asked is what is the alternative? Let Russia take Ukraine by force and then deal with the threat at the EU borders? Then accept more millions of Ukrainian refugees into Europe?
I don't think that Russia has anywhere near the capability required to atack NATO. They don't have the logistical capability. Remember this is not the Soviet Union anymore. Reports on Russia going after the Baltic states is somewhat overblown in my option. Most likely an attempt to get more money. It seems to have worked in a limited fashion.
I don't believe Russia even wants Ukraine - just the highly Russianised bits to the East which happen to be sitting on trillions of dollars of mineral wealth.
@@TheTruth-vi1nf Putin has been planning this for decades He tested the waters by invading crimea europe did nothing but buy more gas From corrupt european politicians
The whole war will come down to who can out produce who, how many soldiers each side has and tactics. All this calculus would be thrown up in the air if NATO or China becomes directly involved. I think everyone will agree that we have really entered a critical part if the war. This will probably be decided in the next three months.
Uncontrolled mass migration is politically destabilizing. Less so than hyperinflation or food shortages because the induced stress is more rooted in tribalism than in objective threats to survival, but the shared sense of being overwhelmed by events outside of our control makes any such situation untenable. Setting up emergency Humanity and Decency Education Centres across the land is unlikely to prove effective, so those in charge have to keep trying things until something actually works. The problem can't be spun away.
There is a maxim that says "grass doesn't grow on a busy street" It falls short here for the follicly and intellectually challenged true blue. An anagram of his name is not " I'm a huge walli " for nothing.
The Rwanda thing is horrible, I refer you to Gary Lineker. Now is the time for activists to gather and the world to discuss sanctions on our nasty little regime.
No, incorrect. Sending ballistic missiles to Eastern Ukraine is sending ballistic missiles to Eastern Ukraine. Meanwhile, nuts are still nuts. The world is so much simpler than our opinions.
Yes, he is remarkably soporific. I immediately drift off whenever I hear his voice. He really needs to leave politics to become a very successful babysitter.
That money ain’t going to do nothing , Ukraine hasn’t got the man power. You thought sanctions would harm Russia and they survive better than most countries without sanctions on them
good lord 😂 the foreign ‘commentators’ really can’t read the room. maybe their team leaders should spend more time addressing the basic cultural differences before dispatching operatives into the field
This whole 'deterrent' argument utterly infuriates me - it's beyond idiotic! Just how many refugees, fleeing from war torn countries and oppressive autocracies with only what they can carry in their hands, do we think are keeping up to date with bloody British politics!?! Do we REALLY think that people trying to escape over the Afghan or Syrian borders, possibly dodging bullets and bombs and desperately trying to shield their kids from it all, are stopping for a quick check of the latest law passed by the UK and then going 'oooo gosh, they might put me on a plane to Rwanda - I'd better turn around'. What utter nonsense! Let's do a quick test, eh; we live in a free society with a free press, so no political oppression or repression ... how many of you reading this know, without Googling it, what was the last law passed in Iran? Or an easier one; China? (Everyone's always talking about China these days right) ... ? Now try and imagine this situation, only no internet, oppressive government and possible warzone, you've been sleeping rough (maybe a tent if you're lucky), travelling for thousands of miles, you're most likely in the hands of people smugglers, and they've most likely taken away a lot of your possessions (how else you paying them), you're in the back of lorry ... you up to spec on UK Parliamentary affairs, yeah? Defo know about that all important Rwanda bill that passed a couple of nights ago - I mean it's super important to you, right? Get real. See this for what it is; Sunak has become a lil finger-puppet for the far right, doesn't have even a single molecule of a spine to stand up to the Gammons and is more scared of Reform taking votes away from him and his ghouls on the Tory benches than he is willing to do a proper job of leading this country. He's pouring MILLIONS of pounds into a scheme that is PURELY to try and give him a better chance at the ballot box with a tiny minority of nasty, small minded, bigoted voters. It's sickening and completely depressing.
William Hague seems to blow the trumpet of leaning on America's finances and military, not enough talk about this being UK and Europe's problem. Why are the talking points of "are people leaning away from supporting Ukraine?". The conversation, the soundbites, the rhetoric should only be Ukraine MUST WIN, Russia MUST LOSE. Not, oh well we'll seen what happens in 5-10 years. That's not the attitude of backers that want to WIN just stop from losing. This tactic won't work because Russia has too many people they are willing to sacrifice. Why can't people get that through their thick skulls?
Why shouldn’t the west give more advanced weapons to Ukraine, Russia has for over a year been receiving weapons and ammunition from North Korea, drones and misiles from Iran, they have been escalating the war so why does German for instance keep using that cop out term.
@@keeperofthecheese that’s right ! anyone not toeing the party line is obviously writing from the Kremlin basement ! don’t let them get to you kiddo, keep on believing cheesy !!! 😂 so, who is it that’s ‘trying hard’ again ? do tell ..... “A team of researchers at the University of Adelaide have found that as many as 80 percent of tweets about the 2022 Russia-Ukraine invasion in its early weeks were part of a covert propaganda campaign originating from automated fake ‘bot’ accounts. An anti-Russia propaganda campaign originating from a ‘bot army’ of fake automated Twitter accounts flooded the internet at the start of the war. The research shows of the more than 5-million tweets studied, 90.2 percent of all tweets (both bot and non-bot) came from accounts that were pro-Ukraine, with fewer than 7 percent of the accounts being classed as pro-Russian. The university researchers also found these automated tweets had been purposely used to drive up fear amongst people targeted by them, boosting a high level of statistically measurable ‘angst’ in the online discourse. The research team analysed a massively unprecedented 5,203,746 tweets, sent with key hashtags, in the first two weeks of the Russian invasion of Ukraine from 24 February this year. The researchers considered predominately English-language accounts, with a calculated 1.8-million unique Twitter accounts in the dataset posting at least one English-language tweet. The results were published in August in a research paper, titled “#IStandWithPutin versus #IStandWithUkraine: The interaction of bots and humans in discussion of the Russia/Ukraine war“, by the University of Adelaide’s School of Mathematical Science. The size of the sample under study, of over 5-million tweets, dwarfs other recent studies of covert propaganda in social media surrounding the Ukraine war. The little-reported Stanford University/Graphika research on Western disinformation, analysed by Declassified Australia in September, examined just under 300,000 tweets from 146 Twitter accounts. The Meta/Facebook research on Russian disinformation reported widely by mainstream media, including the ABC a fortnight later, looked at 1,600 Facebook accounts. Reports on the new research have appeared in a few independent media sites, and in Russia’s RT, but not much else, so revealing the burial of stories that don’t fit the desired pro-Western narrative. This ground-breaking study, exposing a massive anti-Russia social media disinformation campaign, has been effectively ignored by the mainstream Western establishment media. It’s become almost routine during the Russia-Ukraine war.” - Declassified Australia, November 3, 2022
Overall, immigrants are an asset to the society, but they need to be integrated. Either everyone needs to have N children, or we need immigrants. Most of them work hard if given the chance, and are happy to fit in. Those that can't live well in society need to be dealt with - just like people born here that don't manage to be reasonable. The statistics I've seen during the Brexit discussion suggest that it's a net positive economically. Surely that can be simplistic, and needs discussing. But doing the Japan thing and running out of young people isn't a great idea either IMO
To the Republicans or any American who says this is not our fight, ya need to read the history of the second world war. And I mean the political history. We, America doesn't live in a blissful vacuum where we can ignore the problems of the rest of the world while we suckle on the nectar of prosperity. Grow up.
Agree. This shows they do not respect to freedom, democracy and sovereignity.
Exspecially since our CIA put Zelinzki in office. Where do you think a mid field stand up comic got the money to run a presidential campaign
The average citizen is not 'bored' with helping Ukraine - in fact - the opposite! is true Only reporters are.
No, citizens are treating it like a sport, which is sick.
It wasn't the Republican party that was tired to supporting Ukraine, it was the maga faction and trump that aligned itself to Putin, which is very worrying. Overall the American politicians back Ukraine, even with the desenting maga faction, shown by the ease of which the bill was passed once it was allowed to be voted on. Ukraine's security and sovereignty matters, we should've supported them in 2014 when Putin took Crimea by force. ❤🇺🇦🇬🇧🇺🇸❤
You do know the Steele Dossier was all made up don't you??
Even the libtard media in the states has to admit it was a fraud
Just stop. You Blue Anon wacko's have wilder conspiracy theories than Alex Jones, lol
So, you think you should ave gone all-in back in 2014 to support a country that:
a) that isn´t part of NATO or
b) isn´t part of the EU
Why?
Like the first reply said, _´you blue anon whackos´_
@@mfallen2023 What are you on about?
To je idiotů dreem
Denmark will follow as soon as GB has evened the road to Ruanda.
The frontline is 1200km 2km deep makes 2400 km2 massive need for ammo for AFU
Win-Win Cooperation is the ONLY WAY to ensure mutual survival.
No one attacks across the whole length of the line; the Russians certainly don't. They attack in places where they think they can break
“A team of researchers at the University of Adelaide have found that as many as 80 percent of tweets about the 2022 Russia-Ukraine invasion in its early weeks were part of a covert propaganda campaign originating from automated fake ‘bot’ accounts.
An anti-Russia propaganda campaign originating from a ‘bot army’ of fake automated Twitter accounts flooded the internet at the start of the war. The research shows of the more than 5-million tweets studied, 90.2 percent of all tweets (both bot and non-bot) came from accounts that were pro-Ukraine, with fewer than 7 percent of the accounts being classed as pro-Russian.
The university researchers also found these automated tweets had been purposely used to drive up fear amongst people targeted by them, boosting a high level of statistically measurable ‘angst’ in the online discourse.
The research team analysed a massively unprecedented 5,203,746 tweets, sent with key hashtags, in the first two weeks of the Russian invasion of Ukraine from 24 February this year. The researchers considered predominately English-language accounts, with a calculated 1.8-million unique Twitter accounts in the dataset posting at least one English-language tweet.
The results were published in August in a research paper, titled “#IStandWithPutin versus #IStandWithUkraine: The interaction of bots and humans in discussion of the Russia/Ukraine war“, by the University of Adelaide’s School of Mathematical Science.
The size of the sample under study, of over 5-million tweets, dwarfs other recent studies of covert propaganda in social media surrounding the Ukraine war.
The little-reported Stanford University/Graphika research on Western disinformation, analysed by Declassified Australia in September, examined just under 300,000 tweets from 146 Twitter accounts. The Meta/Facebook research on Russian disinformation reported widely by mainstream media, including the ABC a fortnight later, looked at 1,600 Facebook accounts.
Reports on the new research have appeared in a few independent media sites, and in Russia’s RT, but not much else, so revealing the burial of stories that don’t fit the desired pro-Western narrative.
This ground-breaking study, exposing a massive anti-Russia social media disinformation campaign, has been effectively ignored by the mainstream Western establishment media. It’s become almost routine during the Russia-Ukraine war.
The Adelaide University researchers unearthed a massive organised pro-Ukraine influence operation underway from the early stages of the conflict. Overall the study found automated ‘bot’ accounts to be the source of between 60 to 80 percent of all tweets in the dataset.
The published data shows that in the first week of the Ukraine-Russia war there was a huge mass of pro-Ukrainian hashtag bot activity. Approximately 3.5 million tweets using the hashtag #IStandWithUkraine were sent by bots in that first week.
In fact, it was like someone had flicked a switch, when at the start of the war on 24 February, pro-Ukraine bot activity suddenly burst into life. In that first day of the war the #IStandWithUkraine hashtag was used in as many as 38,000 tweets each hour, rising to 50,000 tweets an hour by day three of the war.” - Peter Cronau, Declassified Australia, November 3, 2022
If US sending Attacms 300 km shouldn't Germany actually send the Taurus now.
Shhhh.
Are these ATACMS not limited to the 102 Miles or 165 Km like the previous shipment?
About the TAURUS it is no longer in production it has been produced in limited numbers and Germany has maybe between 150 to 250 of these Taurus missiles.
Now the production line of these missile might be re-instated but this is not clear yet.
I do wish that the Germain Government would make a decision to get these missiles back into production, if not give a clear answer why not.
Is there something wrong with the missile or maybe the production itself.
The German government is a thick as mince.
Cowardice is their real issue. They need to give Ukraine what it needs. They have the equipment.
@@ro0140 There are two variants. Ukraine has thus far received the "short-range" variant (they have a different name but I can't think of it) but it seems like they will now be getting the long-range as well, which has almost 3x the range
The idea that Rwanda will be a deterrent could have only been thought up by rich politicians who’ve never lived in the real world.
rwanda will be a good place for them why should we keep taking these illegals
we will see lets start this week
Have you been to Rwanda?
If they escape they are not in the UK…
Many migrants escape & we can’t find them as UK does not have ID cards.
@@whowhy9023 Escape its not a prison but you are right they will not be coming back here this has to be done
why cant they go there , no dole, no housing, no NHS they never had it in their own countries and never helped to pay in in the UK
The democrats here in the US wanted the aid for Ukraine , but the republicans ( under Trump ) said no . Speaker Mike Johnson (R) gave the nod to give $ 62 billion . Thank God .
Both the Left and the Right are so amazingly unintelligent in their own ways
..of which Ukraine will receive about $14billion, some in old kit from US armouries and the rest in credit to buy other stuff back from the Arabs they sold it to - but only if they want to.
under duress.
Most of that money will end up in defence companies in the USA. Dont kid yourself its all going to Ukraine
In a way he has redeemed himself but understand he will be back to his religeous radical ways soon.
To a certain extent we in Europe (the continent that incited at least 2 world wars) should be ashamed that we cannot supply Ukraine with the military equipment that they need to win this war and have to look at the USA for help!
Trump told you that, but orange boy is so nasty, you ignored him due to TDS across Europe
I've lived in Darwin since 1991, and watched the effective imprisonment without trial of asylum seekers on Manus Island, the attempts of the Australian government to prevent information about their condition getting out, the spiralling into self-harm of despairing children. The Australian government was quite content to hold these people offshore indefinitely, not for what they had done, but as an ongoing warning to others intending to make the journey. Yes, the policy did stop the boats, but at what human cost? Most societies punish an individual for a crime they've committed; they don't punish a person for a crime someone else might commit in the future! The mal-treatment by guards, sexual or otherwise, lack of medical and psychological support - for the asylum seekers on Manus Island, a nightmare potentially without end. Utterly barbaric. I was ashamed to be Australian. A child of empire and a dual national, I fear I'm about to be ashamed to be British too. I have spent time in West Africa, the Congo, but not Rwanda. Nevertheless, any treaty designed to protect deportees is, I believe, not worth the paper it's written on.
Well maybe they should stay in their own country...
It’s easier to be rich and buy a visa to Australia. The rich immigrants buy up houses, now we are homeless. The government focussed on a few boats . I reckon Australia would be a better country if we said people can only come to Australia if they can come on a small boat. These people will have the grit and determination we need for a future nation. Instead we have greedy foreigners
I thought attempting to enter Australia by unregistered boat was a crime
@@mfallen2023 so are the whites and their descendants.
@@Jorrr-tj6su It is, as our governments (both flavours) reclassified all refugees and asylum seekers coming by water as illegal immigrants and criminals. They have aa choice of a lifetime in a concentration camp or refoulement, unless some kind third country accepts them.
Ukrainian Warriors and President Zelensky, you amaze the World with your Courage, Strength and Determination... All it takes for Evil to win is for Good to do nothing. We can achieve anything when we all work together... God Bless Ukraine from the UK
get some fresh air randy
Truth. Their sacrifice is for their freedom and liberty. To have their own country, as devastated as it will be, for their children to grow and be a part of the free world as they had decided in 30 years ago.
@@govinda102000650k military age men fled Ukraine to escape mobilization and more would like to if they could.
Ukraine is in a dire situation of their own making unrelated to outside aid.
@@Rtg5637 I think a great deal more of you guys fled Russia. Nearly 70k just to the U.S. last year. Where are you? The ironic thing is you guys are fleeing to free and democratic countries but you refuse to fight to imprison Ukranians to live as zombies under your Putler.
Ukrajina je agresor zapomínas jak vraždili ukrajinští fašisté ruské menšiny parali břicha těhotných žen a plody napichovali na bodaky jak trofej palili lidi za živá a ty říkáš ubožáci přečti si dějiny a ne propagandu😂
I found it very sad and frustrating to hear the latest aid referred to as a "test".
Support for Ukraine in America has continuously increased over time.
Recently I have been watching and reading more US political comment than is healthy, listening to our politicians discussing our issues makes me really proud to be a Brit. Courtesy , decorum, agreement on common ground whilst putting alternative points are what serious politics should be about. An excellent discussion between respectful adults where the result was qualified agreement. Host was perfect too...
Good point! Im not british, but being accustomed to watching the current sideshow that is american politics, this was a real pleasure. Kuodos to you and your fellow brits. Scandinavia supports you and Ukraine. Europeans must all wake up and stand together once more.
I like William Hague, he has a hilarious sense of humor
you’re clearly not British 😂
He is a Tory. They don't make jokes. Tories are the joke.
@@lw1zfog clearly 😅
The Unites States of America IS A country.
No Brexit English please!!
So this is the famous William Hague we want to send putin to
See what you did there.
It is a mistake to extrapolate what a small faction of vocal Republicans think to the rest of the party, let alone the rest of the electorate.
You mean nearly half ?
@@miguelgameiro8063garbage humans
@@miguelgameiro8063 less than that in the Senate
I extrapolate the 'small faction' all the time because they, save for this one matter, run the party, by and large.
Not so long as that small minority under Trump control the party and the votes in the parliament.
What do you mean by bored?
A problem doesn’t get solved just because you are bored it gets solved by you hanging in and keep on fighting and contribute with whatever you can whenever you can… I think it’s more the journalist who wants to have a story or the Russian propaganda who gets through to some people.
I’m from Denmark and we follow it closely. We have our daily live here in Denmark, but we don’t get bored hearing about how we can help Ukraine.
Why did it take them so freakin’ long?!
RuspubliKKKans held it up. 🤢🤮
Trump, that's why.
@@STHFGDBY and Moscow Marge 🤢🤮
@@STHFGDBY The Ukrainian aid package exposed 112 ruspubliKKKan GQP members.
The point is the nhs is overwhelmed, housing is overwhelmed they don’t want to integrate we need to look after our own.
That sentence makes no senseth-cam.com/users/sgaming/emoji/7ff574f2/emoji_u1f914.png
I would have 1 million Ukrainians, before 1☪️ ,at least the first generation Ukrainians will mix with our people, they won't, if you're British you must see that
ignorance personified
@@keithharmanwhy don't you house a few immigrants buddy?
@@Gingerbozz420 why don't you put you point of view, before chiming in on someone elses? I assume you must be housing some?
The House voted 70% for Ukraine; the Senate voted 80% for Ukraine. Many thousands of us contacted them repeatedly for 6 months.
Tony Abbott tried the same thing in Australia, it didn't work PNG decided they wouldn't keep them unless they kept getting paid, with the threat to help them travel back to Australia.
Those that were stockpiled on Nauru eventually had to be released into Australia when the high court outlawed indefinite detention for people that had committed no crime.
The UK House of Lords will strike down exporting of immigrants and indefinite detention.
This moment reminds me of when I was a kid and a bully five years older than me was messing with me. Then I went home and got my big brother. The guy was quiet as a mouse. Ohhh, who's the big bully now?
Desperate Kremlinbots in this comment section.
Kievbots are much more numerous
“A team of researchers at the University of Adelaide have found that as many as 80 percent of tweets about the 2022 Russia-Ukraine invasion in its early weeks were part of a covert propaganda campaign originating from automated fake ‘bot’ accounts.
An anti-Russia propaganda campaign originating from a ‘bot army’ of fake automated Twitter accounts flooded the internet at the start of the war. The research shows of the more than 5-million tweets studied, 90.2 percent of all tweets (both bot and non-bot) came from accounts that were pro-Ukraine, with fewer than 7 percent of the accounts being classed as pro-Russian.
The university researchers also found these automated tweets had been purposely used to drive up fear amongst people targeted by them, boosting a high level of statistically measurable ‘angst’ in the online discourse.
The research team analysed a massively unprecedented 5,203,746 tweets, sent with key hashtags, in the first two weeks of the Russian invasion of Ukraine from 24 February this year. The researchers considered predominately English-language accounts, with a calculated 1.8-million unique Twitter accounts in the dataset posting at least one English-language tweet.
The results were published in August in a research paper, titled “#IStandWithPutin versus #IStandWithUkraine: The interaction of bots and humans in discussion of the Russia/Ukraine war“, by the University of Adelaide’s School of Mathematical Science.
The size of the sample under study, of over 5-million tweets, dwarfs other recent studies of covert propaganda in social media surrounding the Ukraine war.
The little-reported Stanford University/Graphika research on Western disinformation, analysed by Declassified Australia in September, examined just under 300,000 tweets from 146 Twitter accounts. The Meta/Facebook research on Russian disinformation reported widely by mainstream media, including the ABC a fortnight later, looked at 1,600 Facebook accounts.
Reports on the new research have appeared in a few independent media sites, and in Russia’s RT, but not much else, so revealing the burial of stories that don’t fit the desired pro-Western narrative.
This ground-breaking study, exposing a massive anti-Russia social media disinformation campaign, has been effectively ignored by the mainstream Western establishment media. It’s become almost routine during the Russia-Ukraine war.” - Declassified Australia, November 3, 2022
@@Rtg5637 Not because of a lack of trying from ru-bots.
@@Deathadder90 prove it
@@Rtg5637 You've already proven it. Your conduct is pretty glaring on this channel.
American has a bunch of New ppl to go, all the ones who crossed our border illegally???
❤Ukrainian ❤
PNAC PROXY WAR PUPPETS
@@lw1zfog Ivan?
@@alien4422 🥱 that was all tired out last year kiddo, read the room.
“A team of researchers at the University of Adelaide have found that as many as 80 percent of tweets about the 2022 Russia-Ukraine invasion in its early weeks were part of a covert propaganda campaign originating from automated fake ‘bot’ accounts.
An anti-Russia propaganda campaign originating from a ‘bot army’ of fake automated Twitter accounts flooded the internet at the start of the war. The research shows of the more than 5-million tweets studied, 90.2 percent of all tweets (both bot and non-bot) came from accounts that were pro-Ukraine, with fewer than 7 percent of the accounts being classed as pro-Russian.
The university researchers also found these automated tweets had been purposely used to drive up fear amongst people targeted by them, boosting a high level of statistically measurable ‘angst’ in the online discourse.
The research team analysed a massively unprecedented 5,203,746 tweets, sent with key hashtags, in the first two weeks of the Russian invasion of Ukraine from 24 February this year. The researchers considered predominately English-language accounts, with a calculated 1.8-million unique Twitter accounts in the dataset posting at least one English-language tweet.
The results were published in August in a research paper, titled “#IStandWithPutin versus #IStandWithUkraine: The interaction of bots and humans in discussion of the Russia/Ukraine war“, by the University of Adelaide’s School of Mathematical Science.
The size of the sample under study, of over 5-million tweets, dwarfs other recent studies of covert propaganda in social media surrounding the Ukraine war.
The little-reported Stanford University/Graphika research on Western disinformation, analysed by Declassified Australia in September, examined just under 300,000 tweets from 146 Twitter accounts. The Meta/Facebook research on Russian disinformation reported widely by mainstream media, including the ABC a fortnight later, looked at 1,600 Facebook accounts.
Reports on the new research have appeared in a few independent media sites, and in Russia’s RT, but not much else, so revealing the burial of stories that don’t fit the desired pro-Western narrative.
This ground-breaking study, exposing a massive anti-Russia social media disinformation campaign, has been effectively ignored by the mainstream Western establishment media. It’s become almost routine during the Russia-Ukraine war.” - Declassified Australia, November 3, 2022
@@alien4422
‘aNYoNE wHo faiLS tO ToE tHE paRtY LiNE mUsT bE a rUsSiAn bOt !’
😂🤣😂🤦🏽♂️🥴🤡
@@alien4422 Alien?
Slava Ukraini! 💙
Heroyam slava! 💛
Bandera tropes for notsee dopes.
The voice and intonation of this man pickle me walnuts... 🙄
Thanks Lorenzo. I will study your response. I am no military expert but I try to learn as such as I can. There is alot of information out there. Hard to keep up. Especially now. Everything seems to be speeding up.
"Labor say that..." "Labor have argued...."
What ARE England?
ARE England a country?
The latest intelligence is that the usable Russian equipment stocks are lower than thought and eighteen months may be the upper end of the breaking point. They are already losing tanks faster than they can replace them.
This was two months ago and there hasnt been any real changes since
I'm in NY. As big as the US is, we certainly feel the issues with illegal migrants. The US south is very irritated to say the least. We are working on solutions, but it's not great. At least we sent a pretty big deal to Ukraine. It does signal continued support. It is difficult during national election years. Russia ramped up their war efforts, they have kids in arms factories. Ukraine is going to need some real support. Still, you can't downplay how much newer ATACMS and Patriots are going to hurt. That's just the tip of the spear anyway, but the Russians have no choice but to get cozy and deal with it. I like to believe the west was just waiting for Russia to hit max, so a real victory scenario could get worked out.
you should worry about the usa your kids will be speaking and looking spanish soon america is no longer a white majority country
‘you would like to believe’ pretty much sums all of that up 😂
@@frankrenda2519 OK Ivan. 2 kopecks donated to your bank account.
Totally agree with you, Lincolnshire UK, Mark
Maybe invest in Mexico so people aren't desperate to escape it.
None of this counts. NATO weapon systems have consistently proven to be overpriced, overhyped and high maintenance.
Thank you 💛
What happens if they have originally come from Rawanda?
How do the people of Rwanda feel about this?
The 60 billion US bill includes 20 billion of repayment for stuff Ukraine got last year.
Also 15 billion for US intelligence suport from last year.
In fact Ukraine can buy $15 billion of old US equipment at inflated prices.
America does care Not less. It is not true. You cannot give so much without caring. I think a request for manpower may be possible from the whole world.
All the aid to Ukraine is right and important. But the aid still seems to be aimed at keeping Ukraine from loosing the war and not straight up winning it.
Sadly, you are correct.
It's Ukraine own military impotence. They are an unreliable partner not making full effort to win.
@@Rtg5637Assuming you are not a paid troll. Do you get up and think, today I'mma spread some propaganda to try and weaken the Ukrainian cause..
@@Rtg5637 With no air cover, no navy, they gave up all their nukes so as not to be invaded. Sorry, the West is impotent and unreliable. The US won't even let them attack oil refineries in Russia. Anyway, you are an orc.
@@Deathadder90 Exposing truth helps Ukraine correct its mistakes. Hiding it like you prefer prolongs the war and prevents victory. Such childish approach like yours helps Russians if you realize it or not.
The Rwanda plan should be renamed the King Canute plan.
I really need a three hour recording of William Hague to help me sleep at night.
Wow Britain is rich. I know my country could not afford the amount of money that Britain has given to UKRAINE. I thought that Britain was having some type of debt crisis?
uk govt has a magic money tree that comes & goes as per their requirements, & the general populace doesn’t figure in that equation
Seventh richest country in the world. So rich that the government have wasted or stolen hundreds of billions of pounds over the last 14 years and the majority of the population are getting by okay.
One thing is material money and support, another is military personal, people or soldiers. The "stock" of men is not endeless.
Wunderwaffe number 11???
Let's hope the delay in getting aid to the Ukraine hasn't come to late ?😮
let’s hope you wake up to reality some time soon
🤣🤣🤣The only thing Ukraine has won since this wat begun is Eurovision. Wake up, Ukraine has lost, stop the bloodshed and agree to a land settlement......al;ternatively watch another half a million , million lives lost and the country runed to rubble
What is it with you Guys and your blind faith in silverbullet tech? 😂
It ain’t gonna make a whole lot of difference
the aftermath of this war will be so embarassing for Russians that Russian abroad will claim to be Ukrainians hahahah
Not many Ukranians left, so doubtful
The line is not going to move much even with all this aid. But it might make Russia want to talk. The mass of iron needed is still not being sent. 100's of advanced fighters needed without missile shortages in a month.
StormShadows and ATACMS...
a few months of Republican/conservative stupidity will not negate the trajectory of Truman Doctrine.
Tactically, Russia has to go hard now with everything they have in their power to win the war, especially that Ukraine has little weapon material now to resist. it is always a puzzle and now they have the advantage
The question to be asked is what is the alternative? Let Russia take Ukraine by force and then deal with the threat at the EU borders? Then accept more millions of Ukrainian refugees into Europe?
I don't think that Russia has anywhere near the capability required to atack NATO. They don't have the logistical capability. Remember this is not the Soviet Union anymore. Reports on Russia going after the Baltic states is somewhat overblown in my option. Most likely an attempt to get more money. It seems to have worked in a limited fashion.
I don't believe Russia even wants Ukraine - just the highly Russianised bits to the East which happen to be sitting on trillions of dollars of mineral wealth.
the question to be asked is why you have allowed your brain to be infantilised by risible NAFO propagandists ?
They do it now already. Where i´m from russia hacked a child tv program to show some russian propaganda@@lorenzo6868
@@TheTruth-vi1nf
Putin has been planning this for decades
He tested the waters by invading crimea
europe did nothing but buy more gas
From corrupt european politicians
Ahaaa William is back from the shadows I haven’t seen him since……🤪
Really doubt it.
This video was supposed to be about Ukraine not Immigration.
The whole war will come down to who can out produce who, how many soldiers each side has and tactics. All this calculus would be thrown up in the air if NATO or China becomes directly involved. I think everyone will agree that we have really entered a critical part if the war. This will probably be decided in the next three months.
Uncontrolled mass migration is politically destabilizing. Less so than hyperinflation or food shortages because the induced stress is more rooted in tribalism than in objective threats to survival, but the shared sense of being overwhelmed by events outside of our control makes any such situation untenable. Setting up emergency Humanity and Decency Education Centres across the land is unlikely to prove effective, so those in charge have to keep trying things until something actually works. The problem can't be spun away.
Where are the F-16s?
Expected in June. Infrastructure is being prepared.
The f16s in scrap yard
Why are there so many Ukranians in London working on building sites?
@@chrimbus71Because the English are Lazy AHs.
@@michaelmullins3396 - What?
I'd like to hear less from American an British commentators far away from the war and more from Ukrainians.
There are lots of Ukrainians with their own TH-cam channels 🙄
Why don’t you visit the Ukraine news feeds?
There is a maxim that says "grass doesn't grow on a busy street" It falls short here for the follicly and intellectually challenged true blue. An anagram of his name is not " I'm a huge walli " for nothing.
UK borrowed £120 billion last year and they still find money for Ukraine.
Yes . Stop crying 😊
Some countries like the UK have the money, while other countries like Russia do not.
@@boink800Yet Ukraine with the entire dozens of Allies cannot defeat Russia. The Ukrainian military incompetence is pathetic.
@@Rtg5637 Russia was going to win in just three days in 2022 ... what happened? Did they get the "three days" wrong? Ha, ha, ha, ha
@@Rtg5637 Which navy has lost to a country with no navy? Please tell us where Admiral Sokolov is? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
It's easier to just send them back,and make benefits un available save our resources.
Paid so much. To be so mis guided.
Made in England , when sud we last hear this.
The Rwanda thing is horrible, I refer you to Gary Lineker. Now is the time for activists to gather and the world to discuss sanctions on our nasty little regime.
Try to take over the world, Pinky!
It’s never a question as to try and stop a war , but it’s only to increase the everything that will make war continue.
What do you suggest
@@vincenthigginbotham8729 cauterise the M.I.C.
@@vincenthigginbotham8729 he suggests to give it all to putin obviously.
"missile will make war difficult for Russia". Yeah just like the sanctions did. Plonker.
Shouldn't he be looking for bugs bunny 😂😂
That had always been the US goal. Missiles on Russia’s border
Nonsense.
It's always been Putin's aim to threaten, invade & occupy to fulfil his imperialist fantasy.
If Russia would have minded their own business, they wouldn't have missiles on their borders. Putin's puppets in the the US have lost. Poor Vlad.
With Russia expanding to the west, that will be not much of a problem!
F@@ You Tube & it's pro Russian censorship AI.
You are clearly very naive. The US's goal was to get missiles on Russia's border, and that's why Russia invaded Ukraine? Actually, naive is too kind.
More game changers for Ukraine, how many is this now.
SLAVA UKRAINE 🇺🇦
The Slava chorus hailing Ukraine military incompetence
Not Russia but for Ukrainians
Sending Ballistic Missiles to Eastern Ukraine is nuts
No, incorrect. Sending ballistic missiles to Eastern Ukraine is sending ballistic missiles to Eastern Ukraine. Meanwhile, nuts are still nuts. The world is so much simpler than our opinions.
More devastating than a nuke.?
Seeing as this is a conventional war and tactical weapons, yes.
@@B.D.E. won't be for long as soon as nato steps too close to Russia its goodbye world.
aaawwww They're sending boats. How cute.
These "desperate" people come from France. LOL
I never manage to watch all of William I usually fall asleep
Yes, he is remarkably soporific. I immediately drift off whenever I hear his voice. He really needs to leave politics to become a very successful babysitter.
That money ain’t going to do nothing , Ukraine hasn’t got the man power. You thought sanctions would harm Russia and they survive better than most countries without sanctions on them
They never bothered to evaluate their yesterday narratives because they are like machines rolling out scripts but no brains to think.
Mr Hague for PM
for Gabon maybe.. gotta learn froggie..
good lord 😂 the foreign ‘commentators’ really can’t read the room. maybe their team leaders should spend more time addressing the basic cultural differences before dispatching operatives into the field
Very funny.
❤. LOVLY. WE KNOW THAT GENTALMAN. GENTALMAN ARE ATHORETY. In Kyiv we respect great Athorety❤lovly
What happens to these people that will be dropped in Rwanda?
They go on the housing list and draw social security.
Who cares? are there lions there?
Russian economy is projected to grow 4.5 percent this years . 😂😂😂
The political system in UK is rotten 😂😂😂😂😂
Delusional 😅😅😅😅😅
Do people realize what all this is about . Doubt that too
Do you?
@@russellspeed1693 yes,
@@barbarawilson9565 opinions on this question vary greatly
@@barbarawilson9565 seems doubtful
Anyone ever consider if Russia stops with the special military operation and goes all out against the Ukraine?
Is this yet another funny botski threat? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
Where is the rest of that super-hero Russian army? Are they all hiding in Siberia? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
Does that mean sending that last tank they were keeping back for parades?
@@boink800their advancing every day.
@@andrewcarson5850 They had one old tank at last year's parade. It was so funny. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
This whole 'deterrent' argument utterly infuriates me - it's beyond idiotic! Just how many refugees, fleeing from war torn countries and oppressive autocracies with only what they can carry in their hands, do we think are keeping up to date with bloody British politics!?! Do we REALLY think that people trying to escape over the Afghan or Syrian borders, possibly dodging bullets and bombs and desperately trying to shield their kids from it all, are stopping for a quick check of the latest law passed by the UK and then going 'oooo gosh, they might put me on a plane to Rwanda - I'd better turn around'. What utter nonsense!
Let's do a quick test, eh; we live in a free society with a free press, so no political oppression or repression ... how many of you reading this know, without Googling it, what was the last law passed in Iran? Or an easier one; China? (Everyone's always talking about China these days right) ... ? Now try and imagine this situation, only no internet, oppressive government and possible warzone, you've been sleeping rough (maybe a tent if you're lucky), travelling for thousands of miles, you're most likely in the hands of people smugglers, and they've most likely taken away a lot of your possessions (how else you paying them), you're in the back of lorry ... you up to spec on UK Parliamentary affairs, yeah? Defo know about that all important Rwanda bill that passed a couple of nights ago - I mean it's super important to you, right? Get real.
See this for what it is; Sunak has become a lil finger-puppet for the far right, doesn't have even a single molecule of a spine to stand up to the Gammons and is more scared of Reform taking votes away from him and his ghouls on the Tory benches than he is willing to do a proper job of leading this country. He's pouring MILLIONS of pounds into a scheme that is PURELY to try and give him a better chance at the ballot box with a tiny minority of nasty, small minded, bigoted voters. It's sickening and completely depressing.
William Hague seems to blow the trumpet of leaning on America's finances and military, not enough talk about this being UK and Europe's problem. Why are the talking points of "are people leaning away from supporting Ukraine?". The conversation, the soundbites, the rhetoric should only be Ukraine MUST WIN, Russia MUST LOSE. Not, oh well we'll seen what happens in 5-10 years. That's not the attitude of backers that want to WIN just stop from losing. This tactic won't work because Russia has too many people they are willing to sacrifice. Why can't people get that through their thick skulls?
If Rwanda is a deterrent you have to ask why, if it isn't then those same migrants will be exploited again from Rwanda with a slightly longer journey.
And wait a minute....you just called it 'our war.' I thought nato wasnt a part of this conflict. What happened to that?
🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺💪
Ask yourself, why want everyone to westeurope? And why not to Russia, Iran, China??
Why shouldn’t the west give more advanced weapons to Ukraine, Russia has for over a year been receiving weapons and ammunition from North Korea, drones and misiles from Iran, they have been escalating the war so why does German for instance keep using that cop out term.
Game changer 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Oh look a bot, how you doing little fella?
yeah, yeah, but even though it’s far less ca$h, this one will be a ‘game changer’ to the nth degree !
BELIEVE !!!
@@lw1zfoganother bot! Check it out guys. They are trying really hard.
@@lw1zfog and another one with no account history! They are trying hard!
@@keeperofthecheese that’s right ! anyone not toeing the party line is obviously writing from the Kremlin basement ! don’t let them get to you kiddo, keep on believing cheesy !!! 😂
so, who is it that’s ‘trying hard’ again ? do tell .....
“A team of researchers at the University of Adelaide have found that as many as 80 percent of tweets about the 2022 Russia-Ukraine invasion in its early weeks were part of a covert propaganda campaign originating from automated fake ‘bot’ accounts.
An anti-Russia propaganda campaign originating from a ‘bot army’ of fake automated Twitter accounts flooded the internet at the start of the war. The research shows of the more than 5-million tweets studied, 90.2 percent of all tweets (both bot and non-bot) came from accounts that were pro-Ukraine, with fewer than 7 percent of the accounts being classed as pro-Russian.
The university researchers also found these automated tweets had been purposely used to drive up fear amongst people targeted by them, boosting a high level of statistically measurable ‘angst’ in the online discourse.
The research team analysed a massively unprecedented 5,203,746 tweets, sent with key hashtags, in the first two weeks of the Russian invasion of Ukraine from 24 February this year. The researchers considered predominately English-language accounts, with a calculated 1.8-million unique Twitter accounts in the dataset posting at least one English-language tweet.
The results were published in August in a research paper, titled “#IStandWithPutin versus #IStandWithUkraine: The interaction of bots and humans in discussion of the Russia/Ukraine war“, by the University of Adelaide’s School of Mathematical Science.
The size of the sample under study, of over 5-million tweets, dwarfs other recent studies of covert propaganda in social media surrounding the Ukraine war.
The little-reported Stanford University/Graphika research on Western disinformation, analysed by Declassified Australia in September, examined just under 300,000 tweets from 146 Twitter accounts. The Meta/Facebook research on Russian disinformation reported widely by mainstream media, including the ABC a fortnight later, looked at 1,600 Facebook accounts.
Reports on the new research have appeared in a few independent media sites, and in Russia’s RT, but not much else, so revealing the burial of stories that don’t fit the desired pro-Western narrative.
This ground-breaking study, exposing a massive anti-Russia social media disinformation campaign, has been effectively ignored by the mainstream Western establishment media. It’s become almost routine during the Russia-Ukraine war.” - Declassified Australia, November 3, 2022
So in the UK, part of the Torry party is playing the american MAGA border issue game as well.
by not wanting illegal immigrants, how MAGA. People like you have no respect for society
British comedy at its best...glory to Russia!
Times radio now making the game of russia ?
Overall, immigrants are an asset to the society, but they need to be integrated. Either everyone needs to have N children, or we need immigrants. Most of them work hard if given the chance, and are happy to fit in. Those that can't live well in society need to be dealt with - just like people born here that don't manage to be reasonable. The statistics I've seen during the Brexit discussion suggest that it's a net positive economically. Surely that can be simplistic, and needs discussing. But doing the Japan thing and running out of young people isn't a great idea either IMO