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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2024
- Our first time watching Thor: The Dark World!!! Welcome to our MARVEL Reaction series! Meg has seen next to nothing of the Marvel movies, and Caleb has seen a bit more, and read more of the comics! Most of this series will be first time reactions, but we will let you know at the beginning of each video specifically.
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FULL DISCLOSURE: I HAVE NO ILL WILL TOWARDS ANTHONY HOPSKINS, I HAVE NEVER AND WOULD NEVER SEND AN ACTOR HATE MAIL, I JUST GET VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT CALLING OUT NARCISSISTIC FAMILY SYSTEMS WHEN I SEE THEM!!!! Also, of course Loki ain't perfect. But again, all my homies hate Odin. Love you bye
Sir Anthony understands.
@@mikelarsen5836 She said in this exact post you replied to she doesn't have anything against the actor, just the character. You're accusing them of low intellect? Your lack of self awareness is hilarious, well done.
I'm late, but I'm with you. Here's the worst part, Odin is actually LESS abusive and hypocritical than he was in the comics; you don't wanna know how horrible he really was.
@@mikelarsen5836 no I think you're the one on that scale if you didn't understand what she said
While Odin definitely is not in the running for father of the year - lets take stock of what Loki did to land him in the dungeon:
- Brought frost giants into Asgard
- Have them attempt to kill Odin while he was sleeping
- Tried to kill Thor
- Tried to destroy Jotunheim (an entire world!) with the Byfrost
- Invaded Earth (another entire world!), killing thousands at the very least.
- Killed Phil Coulson
In my opinion, at a certain point "My daddy wasn't nice to me/I found out I was adopted" stops working as an excuse for being objectively terrible.
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Exactly. We're supposed to somewhat sympathize with Loki in the first Thor. But Avengers and the first act of this movie are not meant for the audience to sympathize with Loki at all. The second and last act of this movie is intended to start the redemption arc, but we should be long past making excuses for what Loki has done.
Ok. I thought I was alone in thinking that while watching her reaction.
It felt like she was absolutely excusing what damning things he did and lives he took because his mean daddy didn't let him die as a baby.
As for the first movie, Odin was not favoring Thor at all. He ripped him a new one when he did stupid mistakes.
Thor still didn't try to murder him or his family members, so.....
He learned to humble himself and grow up. Loki just doubled down on his deviance and made thousands suffer because he felt slighted.
Honestly, his intro made him seem more of a spoiled entitled man child who didn't get what he narcissistically felt he deserved. A man that hungry for power and for dictatorship shouldn't be in charge anyway.
I don’t think they’re saying he shouldn’t be in jail, just that they don’t like Odin?
I'm glad you liked this one. I enjoyed it a lot. There is character growth with Loki and the relationship between him and Thor. Plus there are ties back to this movie in future MCU movies
I mean, not only did Loki go to Earth and kill over 80 people there, he did send an alien army to NY and almost destroyed it. It's not like Odin can ignore that and give him a slap on the wrist. It's like if someone from this country attacks another country. We would all get blamed as a whole for the amount of damage and lives lost and there would be war even if it was just one person. Regardless of how he feels about Odin he was wrong. Odin not giving him his throne isn't a good enough reason to try and conquer Earth. The throne wasn't his birthright. It was just what he wanted for all the wrong reasons. By all rights, it was Thor's but he didn't want it.
He's adopted🙂
It is so awesome to hear reactors praise this movie and the Thor films in general for what they are, fun, campy, and overdramatized and as Loki would say, “Glorious”
Dark World is my favorite of the Thor films and in my top 5 non-Avengers/ “solo” MCU movies.
Can’t wait for you to get to the last 2 Avengers movies and the show.
Sif is Thor's wife in the actual nordic mythology
One of the bizzare bits of continuity in the MCU is that every movie in the second phase has a character lose an arm. Thor in this movie, Killian in Iron Man 3
Them hating on odin had me angy💀 I actually agree with his harsh response to loki’s actions on earth. He was reasonably soft in response to his actions in Thor, and loki is definitely in need of a reality check. Odin does that by reminding him of his true birth right, showing him how his arrogance and entitlement is corrupting him.
It's still a shitty thing to say. "You'd be nothing without me" is a desperate manipulation tactic by a narcissist. Odin is responsible for the way he lied and treated Loki as a second to Thor, artificially making them rivals, not caring about parenting Loki. Meg and Caleb were right to hate on Odin in this movie because he was written as a jerk instead of a wise king. I wish they kept his character more in line with the first movie, where he made mistakes in the past but gained wisdom by the time his kids grew up. He's somewhat redeemed in Ragnarok, but still, this movie did him dirty.
7:31 Mark! Rene Russo, in an interview for a talk show, said that she learned that was "old" when she was cast as Thor's mother rather than lover as she expected. She had to adjust to that! 😮
"She wouldn't want us to fight." and "She wouldn't be surprised" are literally the most sibling lines from Thor and Loki.
The reason why odin was so desperate to keep Jane in Asgard was to protect the infinity stone that was in her with him being 18.000 years old he knows there are others who will try and use it. And when the collector said "1 down 5 to go" he's talking about the infinity stones
Loki invaded Earth, and killed hundreds, if not thousands, of people in New York. He also killed his birth father and destroyed a significant portion of Jotunheim. Loki killed Phil Coulson.
Why do you think he shouldn’t be imprisoned?
Bc he make me laff
@@MegMage W take
At the very end of Thor 1 it is pretty evident (to me at least) that Sif has feelings (when she is talking to Frigga). I don't really think it is evident earlier in part one. I don't think Sif is aware of the Jane/Thor thing until the battle VS the Destroyer. She probably didn't know she had feelings until he showed someone else interest [weirdly, it kinda happens often].
Fun fact, that wasn't Jane at the end. They Natalie Portman was done shooting and that was Chris Hemsworth's wife in a wig
1:58 Mark! Christopher Eccleston! As an alien Dark Elf here, he's invading London, England, while as a Time Lord of Gallifrey, he defended it from aliens!
I think it would be funny if his two alien characters met! 🤔 😅
-28:30 Mark! Hi there! 👋 Hmm. This movie makes me feel like I was once in contact with movie makers back in the day. I would exchange e-mails with people that I e-met in certain forums, and then our topics would be made to happen soon after! Before the 1990s, it was regular mail. Like my notion that "Thor" is a good source for Shakespearean drama and that people who are well-versed with his works should make the movies! I even mentioned Kenneth by name!
So, of course, I was annoyed by those who didn't appreciate the Shakespeare approach! 🙄🤨
7:59 Mark! Okay, I'm back! Whew!
7:57 Mark! Uh oh! My sleep disorder is kicking in now! I'll resume whenever I can. 😴
I found your channel a few months ago and somehow forgot to click “subscribe”
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So happy I found you again, always a pleasure to come across a fellow Loki stan 💚🐍🗡💚
If you haven’t, you should look up all the deleted Loki scenes from all the movies, there is some awesome performances by Hiddleston that got scraped.
🤞he never wants to hang up his horns!
p.s. I hit subscribe this time 😜
Odin seems like an asshole but its not his fault...he did what he needed to do...generally at his level of power and position in the friggin Universe, every person would seem the same as Odin (also, he is very old...more than 5000 years and some speculate nearly 18000 years old...Thor himself is 1500 years old)!!!...if Odin was lenient...Thor would have been a complete disaster and forget the 9 realms, the entire galaxy would have been a disaster and chaos😅...It also wouldn't have mattered if Odin was good and honest with Loki since the beginning...Loki is the God Of Mischief and he would have turned out exactly the way he is now!!!
The next two movies are absolute treat!!!...and also, you guys are gonna love Thor Ragnarok🔥🔥🔥can't wait for you guys to react to that movie!!!...and Thor The Dark World connects directly to the beginning of Thor Ragnarok (set almost 3 to 4 years later of these events)!!!
Loki is a murderer, plain and simple. “My daddy was mean to me and I’m adopted” doesn’t excuse the mass murdering he took part in.
I mean Loki killed like a thousand people
Haven't clicked on a video faster! 😂❤️
fun fact , the scene where thor kisses jane at 1 of the end credit scene was actually chris hemsworth's real wife , she did jane's part beause portman wasn't available to do it
This is the most underrated MCU movie, in my opinion.
Really? Loki literally killed phil coulson and who knows how many others. Odin saved him. Loki deserves to rot in prison. =P
Another day another MCU reaction while eating breakfast
Dark World is definitely one of the most underrated MCU movies. Thors and Lokis dynamic is fantastic.
Also, Odin is shitty, sure, but Loki spending his time in prison is definitely reasonable considering what he has done in the first Thor and the Avengers.
And yes, Jane Foster will die almost immediately in the eyes of an Asgardian. So Odin not wanting Thor to be in a relationship with her is nothing against humans, its just him being pragmatic.
People seem to forget that if Thor were to be with Jane, like in a serious way... She would be queen of Asgard... A mortal with an incredibly short life span... It would not only cause grief to Thor but it would also be incredibly unfit for Asgard as a realm... Like you said, Odin is being pragmatic about the situation, for the point of view of Thor's emotional state in just a few years and also from the point of view of a ruler that has a duty to his citizens.
I love odin so much he is just too wise too understand and I don’t hate what he as done with loki he deserved all and loki is one of my favorite character
you should check out loki in the agent of asgard comic by al ewing!! not very many issues but ive heard great great things about it ❤️❤️
Hey it's okay if Meg accidentally mistook Thanos' name for Thanatos. She played the God of War: Ghost of Sparta game and Thanos is the Greek word for death. Hence the name for the Marvel character.
I would genuinely be interested to see you do a rankings video with all of the MCU movies once you are completely caught up and have seen them all. Would be cool to see where many of these phase 1 and 2 movies end up on your list after seeing what the rest of the MCU has to offer :)
originally this one was disliked because people thought it focused too much on character development that they didn't see as important, but with the later stories thor and loki became involved in, it started being seen in a better light. also yeah all my homies hate odin
That is not at all the reason I disliked this when it came out. I liked Loki as a villain and wanted to see him grow and have a redemption. I liked the Loki stuff in this the most. My problem with this movie was the villain of the dark elves. I couldn't connect with them at all and felt they were just a sort of generic boogeyman that needed to be fought, which really sucks 'cause 1. I really like Christopher Eccleston as an actor and 2. the dark elves sound really interesting and could've had really interesting lore. I also thought it was slightly too jokey considering the seriousness that we were supposed to have for the dark elves situation. This was the only movie I didn't rewatch after it came out...until after Endgame. I found more of an appreciation for it after that, even though I still don't love it, I don't mind watching it when before I was very against the thought of even watching it again. I was almost annoyed with it before.
Also, like many others have said, Odin ain't a great dad, but Loki can't blame every terrible thing he's done on his feeling that Odin wasn't fair to him when Loki's perspective is not necessarily the truth. It's how he feels, but there's no real indication that Odin was more an asshole to him than Thor really. I feel there's WAY too much outsized hate for Odin in this reaction and complete overlooking of the horrible things Loki did by choice. I mean, he made plans. Quite a few, to do terrible things. I like his sense of humor, but that definitely doesn't excuse the stuff he did and say his actions shouldn't have consequences.
While I don’t hate Odin as much as you guys and probably several do, I can understand the hatred for him. The way he dealt the punishment out to both of his sons and how he treated them, I wouldn’t say I was a big fan of. Especially with how he treated Loki. Not only locking him up but also in a way humiliating him by having him treated like just another prisoner instead of the son he helped raise. Although, I can’t say I was completely with Loki at first considering he killed many and was part of the destruction of New York. And also cause he’s a trickster god so I was always skeptical about his intentions. But I did feel awful for him after Frigga died and you can see how much it truly affected him. One thing that I got a real kick out of from this movie was the effects for the Aether and how demonic it made Jane Foster’s eyes look when they were in Svartalfheim and just the visuals for the Aether itself were so trippy and sick. I loved it. Also the other scene in Svartalfheim when Thor and Loki tricked Malekith I thought was awesome when I first watched this since I legitimately didn’t see it coming. Now while I do like Thor Ragnarok more than this, I don’t think this movie was as bad as some made it out to be. Plus both yours and Caleb’s reactions made this such a delight and fun to watch compared to when I first watched this alone. Thanks for such another fun reaction guys! You both are in for another fun time with the Winter Soldier. It not only has some of my favorite fight scenes of all the movies but it’s also the first time you get to see one of my favorite characters in the MCU. I won’t say who but I will say she’s quite magical
He is a great villain. And then sometimes anti-hero! I love morally grey characters like that. Thank you so much for your insights and watching with us :)))))))
@@MegMage Same here. I love morally grey characters a lot too especially when you understand the reasons for their ambitions and goals and they aren't exactly all black and white. I know this is DC related but as you continue to watch Batman the Animated series, you're gonna come across a lot of villains like that and they are some of the best episodes in the series. Loki I've always thought he was such a fascinating character. I love that you can never really be sure of what his true intentions are. People have said he's like the Joker with how unpredictable he is. Loki was definitely the standout for me in this movie but once you guys get to Thor Ragnarok, I feel like you're gonna love Thor and Loki even more because I absolutely did after watching that movie! Also no problem on the insights. Like I said, you guys made this so much more enjoyable watching this together than when I watched this for the first time alone
Tell us how you really feel about Odin
The next film is good but the film after is the most important for the saga overall.
That was a Great movie 🙂🔥
@@The_Phantasm I don't know but I'll probably go with the one when thor cut his hair and he was fighting the hulk
@@The_Phantasm among the weaker movies maybe but not the weakest
@@devondavis4295 let's not spoil for Meg
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The Thor movies get progressively better. Third movie is even better. (maybe a lot better).
I am waiting for your reaction on Captain America: The Winter Soldier, best MCU solo movie
Loki would stab a child and these fangirls would defend him
The Aether is an Infinity Stone. What are the Infinity Stones? You’ll see. 😏
Out of all Odin's failings to Loki as a father; not telling Loki about Frigga dying or letting him attend his mother's funeral until after its all done is pretty unforgivable.
I agree. And I didn’t even realize until after the movie 😭
Technically, Loki was the cause of Frigga's death, so I wouldn't call it "unforgivable." Not sure, but Odin may have told him about her death, not personally, but sent someone to tell him, so I can't say for sure he was even that callous although I have seen parents neglect their kids for a time after their spouses have died because of grief. It's not right, but it does happen and it's not intentional.
to hate ODIN
This is the way
The Child Loki into Agent of Asgard saga in the comics is the best depiction of Loki as a character in my opinion. You should definitely check it out! Sadly the MCUs portrayal of Loki only goes downwards after Dark World.
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It bothers me how mean y'all are to Odin, The All - Father. 🤔
Hey, Meg and Caleb! This is my favorite Thor movie despite it not being well-regarded. It is also the final film to embrace the character's medieval fantasy roots. Even though Hemsworth's Thor is mined for some sensational comedy in future entries, I always preferred the pseudo-Shakespearean version from the first two films as that was more faithful to his comic book depiction. "The Dark World" feels both Tolkienian and space operatic with the vaulted palaces, stentorian declarations and eldritch sorcery of the former as well as the cloaked vessels, energy weapons and unstable wormholes of the latter. The plot flips the fish-out-of-water scenario of the first film by having Natalie Portman's Jane Foster travel to Asgard but then quickly escalates into having to avert a universal holocaust and to contend with a grievous personal loss. Thor is opposed by two classic villains from the comics: Kurse and the Dark Elf King Malekith.
It is profoundly appropriate for Alan Taylor to have helmed this installment as he is a veteran director of "Game of Thrones", a show known for castle sieges, royal intrigue and savage warfare! The ancient war with Svartalfheim led by Bor, Thor's grandfather, in the prologue is gloriously brutal while the invasion of and escape from Asgard are thrilling sequences! The chaotic world-hopping at the end is delightfully imaginative especially as Mjolnir tries to keep track of its master. I especially like how Asgardian tech like the design of their skiffs provided the template for the Norse longboat when humans came into contact with these aliens. The most remarkable technology belongs to the Dark Elves, though, who have harnessed the power of miniature black holes to function as singularity drives that propel their Harrow ships and as IMPLOSION grenades that devastatingly compact everything in their blast radius to a microscopic point!
The cast is top-notch yet again. A magnificently chiseled Chris Hemsworth returns as Thor Odinson aka Thor to portray a conflicted prince torn between two worlds. Tom Hiddleston brings incredible nuance and duplicity to Loki Laufeyson aka Loki, now a captive after his "Avengers" exploits. Anthony Hopkins, gruff and regal as ever, returns as Odin. Rene Russo's Frigga is given more of a showcase and her compelling death pays dividends down the line. The Warriors Three are also on hand with Ray Stevenson as Volstagg, Tadanobu Asano as Hogun and Zachary Levi replacing Josh Dallas as Fandral. The gorgeous Jaimie Alexander returns as Lady Sif to provide some romantic tension before leaving the role behind. Although she reprised the part for two episodes of "Agents of SHIELD", an episode of "Loki" and may yet return, her starring role in TV's "Blindspot" prevented her character from completing a satisfying arc and she remains one of the MCU's criminally underused opportunities like Tim Blake Nelson's Samuel Sterns from "The Incredible Hulk". Idris Elba lends his gravitas and sonorous voice to Heimdall again. Natalie Portman meets the parents as Dr. Jane Foster with Stellan Skarsgard as an addled Dr. Eric Selvig and Kat Dennings as snarky Darcy Lewis returning as well. Darcy has her own intern this time in the form of Jonathan Howard's Ian Boothby and Chris O'Dowd's sad sack Richard has the impossible task of being Jane's rebound guy! Although underwritten, Christopher Eccleston is appropriately cold and ruthless as Malekith. In the comics, he is gleefully vicious but lacks that dark joy on screen. Although it's colored purple-and-black in the comics, the villain's dichromatic face is represented after the right side of his white visage gets scorched black by lightning. Adewale is impressive as the hulking, indomitable Kurse. Tony Curran, in heavy wig and armor, portrays Grandpappy Bor in flashback, Clive Russell of "Game of Thrones" plays Einherjar Commander Tyr and the great Alice Krige has a bit part as Eir, an Asgardian physician. Taneleer Tivan, the Collector, played by Benicio del Toro, is introduced as is his servant Carina played by Ophelia Lovibond. Royce Pierreson of "The Witcher" appears briefly as a Greenwich student. Lastly, there's a fun cameo by Chris Evans as Captain America.
TRIVIA:
1. The Svartalfheim sequences were shot in Iceland to provide a black basaltic soil landscape for the Dark Elves' homeworld.
2. Jaimie Alexander slipped on some steps on set dislocating a shoulder, tearing a muscle, slipping a disc and chipping eleven vertebrae!
3. Natalie Portman was unavailable for the end-credit scene so the woman who races to greet Thor is Hemsworth's actual wife, Elsa Pataky!
EASTER EGGS:
1. Selvig's diagram for his sanitarium lecture features the numerical designation for the Marvel Comics universe, 616, as well as several dimensional junctures such as The Nexus, The Crossroads and The Fault!
2. The rock alien Thor fights on Vanaheim is the first appearance of the Kronan species in the saga which also debuted in Thor's first issue, "Journey into Mystery" # 83!
3. Although in a fluidic state, the Aether is identified as an Infinity Stone making it the third one encountered in the saga!
CAMEO:
1. Stan Lee appears as a patient in the sanitarium who asks Selvig to return his shoe after the addled astrophysicist used it as a visual aid for his lecture!
END-CREDIT SCENES:
1. Volstagg and Sif deliver the Aether to The Collector for safekeeping in his Collection since the Tesseract is already housed in Odin's vault and two Infinity Stones so near one another is a dangerous prospect. The Collector accepts and, after the Asgardians depart, reveals that there are six in total which he has designs of acquiring!
2. Jane, in the company of Selvig, Darcy and Ian, is shaken out of her funk when Thor returns and she races to her apartment balcony to greet him with a kiss!
3. Meanwhile, the Frost Beast from Jotunheim, stranded in London after the Convergence, is seen chasing a flock of birds at the site of the anomaly!
The next chronological stop in the MCU are episodes 8-16 of Season 1 of "Agents of SHIELD".
Widely considered the worst movie of the MCU, though that says more about the quality of the rest of them than how bad this is, the MCU really takes off from here, and only gets better, but this movie does set up some things for the future.
Gosh, I love this woman for hating on Odin. As somebody who was hostage to an abusive dad for 19 years and still deals with irreparable trauma induced from back then, it brings me relief in watching someone criticize such behaviour, no matter how nominal or meagre. Thank you.
Sending lots of love your way💚
you will probably do the same with bilions of years of age
You can't blame Odin for the way he's written.
ok so I only saw this movie once and I do not remember Odin being such a dick. I must have really erased this movie from my mind. however, in most mythologies, the gods are assholes sooooo.... accurate?
the two of you are basically Darcy and the intern XD
also i think this is concidered the weakest mcu film
Lmao we'll take it