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The professionals I've dated usually are book smart but were clueless to the real world. Or tend to have no personality. BUT it was nice when they had their own money.
Yep, I know a PhD candidate in Chemistry/Chemical Engineering and there is nothing for me to talk with her about besides school/work, chemistry, university and drama with her "friends"/roommates.
sounds like just your average grad student; they know some of their field of work (sometimes a lot), but when it comes to real world issues they're like toddlers. And because they only focussed on their study, they have no other hobbies or anything that excites their life up because all they did was study and party.... These are the most boring and close minded people i've ever encountered.
I’ve dated: a pharmacist, nurses, senior policy analyst, and a world class interior designer. Dunno why I never considered a Starbucks barista, but after watching this, it’s time to start changing dating based on relatively similar incomes to dating based on being a compliment to my life. This video 💯% nails the issues of dating professional women.
Believe me bro , tbh things don't change much for that group also ... Man you will be amazed somehow they like the abusive men ... If you are in a higher tier do be there .. I had done this mistake .... Thought may be this crowd will be balanced ..... That just surprised me like Samuel Jackson
I made this mistake myself. They are hyper independent and constantly competitive with you at your similar income level. It’s complexly annoying trying to over power their masculine constantly so that they ultimately submit and act feminine. It is so mentally draining.
@@cabdolla Proof? This is such a lie. Did you even take time to romance her? Have private couple time? Was that why she couldn’t be bothered. No one is competing with their true partner.
@@lotstosay6359 I’ve been on countless dates with women above 31 and below 31. It’s substantially better with younger women. Hands down. Full stop. I know how to court a woman, and the ones above 31, and specially above 35, are terrible. Around 38 they realize they missed the boat for kids and try to become somewhat nice again but it’s too late at that point. I’m not getting a mid life woman pregnant.
Agree completely, dated a ‘career girl’ working for a high tech company. You nailed it exactly. Eventually I ended the relationship because it just became too much work. Obsessed with work, competitive… always wanting to compare incomes, houses, stock portfolios. No hobbies other than drinking wine with her girlfriends. Endlessly droning on about work drama. Successful but still ‘oppressed by the patriarchy’. Couldn’t understand why her ‘amazing career’ wasn’t more important to me than being feminine, sweet, loving etc. Wouldn’t cook a meal to save her life, no workout routine…’too busy’.
Modern career women are useless their only hobbies are drinking like an AA meeting should be their next stop. If you date them use them and waste what youth they have. Promise marriage then dump them
Bet you she didn't clean the kitchen nor the house more than three times in 8 years, because "she's the breadwinner". And while you're doing it, she's putting down her workmates. She's got it all under her thumb. They'll get it back.
There comes a point in a man’s life when he begins to question if it’s even worth the hassle anymore. Perhaps even to question why he ever thought it was worth it.
Bro, i was married to a very pretty lady, good sex, AAAAAND made $500,000 compared to my $40,000 a year. i divorced her within three years!!!! Let that sink in!!!!
Very True. No hobbies just work and off days is relaxing at home. Constant competition on all aspect. Disrespectful talking down to you and very disagreeable. They have ego that they cannot be wrong. They will hardly ever apologize. Highly demanding, use their work attitude towards you such as talking without filter and to attack and defeat you. They make terrible quarrelsome wife, very unpleasant. I can't imagine what kind of Mother they are and how they will treat and talk to their children. Narcissist is a huge red flag. Mental and emotional drain. This is not someone you want to come home to after a hard day's work.
this is so true and it's really unfortunate. Especially lawyers will always look down upon everyone else because only they can know everything. If they don't it, nobody does.
Rich I experienced all these points in a recent LTR with an attorney. The point of ssri use, lack of hobbies, drinking/substance issues, competing and check lists. Need to pay attention to red flags early on and set boundaries to filter out early. Going through your book now. I appreciate all the great wisdom.
I usually tend to not agree with Rich in everything he says in other videos, however, he is spot on in this video. I have dated career vvomen in the past and I work with them on daily basis in corporate America in high tech field, and as Rich said they tend to be super competitive. They can't switch between competition at work and relaxing and having good time outside of work. They always try to find things to make them feel superior to a man. Also, they tend to be very selfish and narcissistic. My ex who was in the tech field with a doctorate degree used to talk about herself for hours and never asked how my day was or how I am doing. I have a female coworker who is the same, she just talks about herself and complain all the time, never check on other people and never gets a quality work done. I also noticed that career vvomen tend to have subpar hygiene due to their busy schedule. No legs or arms shaving, not washing properly, bad eating habits, etc. They just don't emit any feminine vibe. I am currently dating a vvoman who works normal job and she treats me well and she got time to do things together. What those career vvomen fail to understand is that most men don't care about the letters after their name, that won't give men erection.
@@mikes4286 Bull shite. Bad hygiene due to career? You know how much effort it takes to maintain your hair makeup and outfits to look the part at work? Eating habits? So you mean they grab take out and aren’t at home cooking for you? (like a wife) A job doesn’t change her biology. Don’t forget that. You just chose bad partners. It’s not her career. Go get that nice mail order bride to suck your wallet dry. Have fun.
My experience with Career women is they’re in a hurry to get in a relationship because they need to check that box off of their list. They got irritated when I didn’t rush the relationship and took it slow to see if something would develop. If a relationship wasn’t locked down in a certain amount of time, they bounced. This was my experience dating 3 “career” women.
I'm a 35 years old Greek lawyer in Switzerland and in my experience dating professional women is a nightmare. Recently, I blocked on the phone an African-Brazilian female lawyer from London for not respecting my time. My ex Greek girlfriend was also a lawyer. She stayed with me for 14 years for the sex, but I couldn't marry her, because she had become too disagreeable. The professional women have an attitude... Rich Cooper keep up the good work!
@@urlauburlaub2222 If you are a pick up artist psychologist, you should find another job. If you are a professional psychologist you should throw away your certificates. Your evaluation about me is totally wrong. Personally, I have never asked for something back from a girlfriend and I never expect things from other people. My problem was that I was an extremely nice guy and my previous girlfriends were taking advantage of it. I am a lawyer, I have money, my male organ is 8,5 inches and very thick, I have many certificates in languages, but my dating life was a disaster. In the end, I saw the videos of Rich Cooper and Coach Red Pill(Gonzalo Lira) and after practicing their advice, my life changed forever. My current girlfriend is a Muslim lady from the Middle East(Kurdish, Jewish and Arab) and she is amazing. In the end it is a matter of culture. As a new immigrant in a Western country, like Switzerland, I came across a post feminist nightmare, where the women have become very spoiled and masculine. Moreover, in my region there were only a very few Greek women, mostly married with Greek men. I dated some Swiss women, but they were real sociopaths with serious daddy issues. These girls were extremely spoiled by their Swiss fathers and now they are undateable. The Swiss men are taking wives from Thailand, Africa and Brazil and the blonde Swiss ladies are single.Many of them have even become homosexuals, because they could not find a man. The Middle Eastern girls are still feminine and sweet with a kind heart. The feminist propaganda has not touched them yet.
Nailed it with the no hobbies. I've dated a ton of women like this and it's alarming how often they turn out to bore me. I always ask women what their passion is and if she stares at me blankly that's a red flag. These women also usually complain about how much they work. This is a midlife crisis waiting to happen in my opinion.
I do not recommend dating/marrying "professional" women. Not only will they not have time for you or the family they are extremely competitive. The onlly reason they are even with you is because they can't find a better man because those men rejected them and married hotter younger more submissive women
Nevermind being competitive.....god help you if you lose your job. I watched the marriage (at least 15 years) of an accountant to a lawyer with 2 kids turn into a divorce because it took the male accountant about 1 and a half years to find a job after the 2008 crash. This happened even AFTER he found a new job. A professional woman will NOT stand by you during hard times - no matter how many vows they take or kids you have.
@@michaelsix9684 This has now become Awalt, Whether they work at the pay & shoe counter at a bowling alley or they're college educated accountants who inherit ad metal electroplating business. Our side of society has subsided and pussified ourselves so much that they see no reason to compromise on anything. I know this from experience, both relationship & work wise.
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I've dated professional girls and pretty uneducated girls. By far the professional ones have better topics of conversation far beyond gossip and I personally find it attractive in a woman who is professional in her field. However, they tend to be very very competitive and this translates into a constant war of egos that is very difficult to handle, in addition to constant tests to verify that you are at the same level. On a mental level it's fucking stressful to date someone like that.
I Know what you mean buddy, the conversations are deep and intellectual..mind caressing. However it's all for a while, once that wears off You are left with an argumentative ever debating woman. I have been there bro. But they make the best side chicks.
@@seanlovi8798 It is really difficult to have a relationship with a professional girl, because they tend to have a lot of ego. I was with an incredible girl but every argument she always had to be fucking right.
Yes. Yes. My ex-wife is a professor and from personal experience can attest to all the points he makes, with one amendment and an addition. 1) don’t assume that just because she makes good money that she is good with money (same goes for men). I’ve known quite a few professional woman that were shit with money. 2) I think the most important point to drive home is that the vast majority of hard-charging professional woman are actually extremely unhappy. They are ruled by ego and have no conception of where to derive real happiness. Marriages with them are toxic.
Currently going through a divorce with a woman just like you described and guys he is 100% spot on with his assessment. The biggest issue is the narcissism, it's disgusting behavior. This woman constantly pushed against my boundaries, tried to belittle me and emasculate me and let me tell you I'm no puss boy by any means so that kind of shit was it for me. I'm not competing with my woman, there's no competition. She comes from what would be considered a wealthy family, the father has a couple of light jet aircraft, boats, multiple homes you know the story. Here's the kicker, I am a man of greater means than her or her father and family and this has always bothered her and her family lmao. It was entertaining to watch and listen to at first but I was just exhausted in the end. Her family, friends and what used to be a career came before me and all the while I was the one solely providing for her and I..... So, even though I come from much greater means, her arrogance and better than you and everyone else attitude from her accomplishments was still there, and still belittling to me so I said I'm out. There's no room or time for yourself with women like this, they are constantly demanding you be on their schedule this and that. With my situation, that shit didn't cut it. I'm the captain of this ship, you wanna be in the wheelhouse with me you gotta bring a whole helluva lot more to the table than that BS.
@@startingtech3900 Honestly, I'm a recovering alcoholic, been sober for nearly three years now so when she and I met, it was party party party etc... we share quite a bit in common, like outdoor sporting activities (that I have taken her all over the world to accomplish) she's a great chef, and she's hot. My guard was completely down. It took about a year after quitting the sauce that I started to really see through the BS. I could always see it however having booze in my veins 24/7 made me numb and obviously susceptible to things of this nature. I'm on a good path now, this really has made me a better person.
@@pelagic6 same brother. I am recovered Opiate addict. Guess who got me into the shit? a woman.. I’m 3 years clean too. cheers brother. You are better off now. you are rich and healthy!
All true. Additionally - Professional women like this typically have a very busy work related social life. Dinners, banquets, charity events, etc. and you will be expected to be their +1 to everything. That's an important thing on their want list. Saying no will be met with disappointment & guilt. Been there done that.
The thing about professional women, is that the don't know that they don't know shit. They actually think they're smarter and better than everyone else when they're usually not. Never be impressed with what they have, only be impressed by how they treat others.
Aimless, clueless, unintelligent arrogance is what you endure. You sit there and explain how the world works and you are accurate but they will combat you until the end with inferior aimless logic. It is maddening to deal with. You can’t deal with it
I’d love to have a woman that didn’t get home from teaching, similar to being a Navy Seal in their minds, and didn’t hit the sweats and binge on wine and Netflix. But hey…she’ll take half of my real estate. So I’ll keep working out and loving on my Pitbulls 😂
Rich, you explained my ex gf perfectly. She was pre med, wanting to become a Dr. We are both extremely competitive, but it was always me who compromised my desires/schedule to make the relationship work. Something I’ll also add: they have a difficult time being 100% transparent. Their narcissistic personality makes them feel so special that they don’t want anyone to ever understand them: because how could anyone ever understand someone so “unique and awesome.” I started to feel emasculated, and that was the end of that relationship. Career women are very masculine, but they don’t understand that guys want someone to compliment themselves, not more masculine energy.
Bro. I just dated this med student and you are spot on. It is impossible to date them because when they start going for the final years before they get that certificate, she is having a relationship with her PhD than her man.
The thing I've noticed about professional women is that a lot of them act like how they think men are. So they over compensate, and have their own version of it, which usually misses the mark and that's where the competition attitude comes in. The other aspect is that, unlike guys, they have to get into 'character' to hold their professional job, which means they can rarely turn that off, which you sort of touched on. So whatever baseline personality they have, morphs into what they need to be at the workplace. Modt guys just turn it on and off. Professional at work, family dad at home.
“The thing I've noticed about professional women is that a lot of them act like how they think men are” Yes. In British culture, when I worked in the financial district in the City of London, heavy drinking to match male drinkers in the office, for example.
This is exactly right. You see this amongst women cops a lot too. It’s so simple what us guys like; fit, beautiful, feminine and cooperative women. It’s really that simple
As someone who spent 20years with a professional turned senior executive, I totally agree. Especially the part about their careers taking precidence over your life ambitions. Be careful what you wish for!. They become total narcissists and entitled to lie to you through omission and about the little things they don't even need to lie about.
I'm currently a Ph.D. candidate, about to get my degree from a university in the US. Just don't date Ph.D. girls. I'm sure there must be good ones out there, but from my experience they are often extremely entitled. It doesn't matter if you study in a university that is "better rated", or if you are pursuing a STEM degree with higher earning potential. Oh no, you also need to look like giga chad and you must be ready to start a LTR right after the first date...
When I was in college, one of my professors with whom I was on friendly terms and had nice conversations outside of class told me that I should give girls who didn't attend college a fair chance as potential dating or marriage partners because they were, she said, better adjusted as women and human beings than collegiate women. That's right, SHE: the professor rendering that unsolicited advice was herself a woman with multiple doctoral degrees. This was a Catholic college, and the class of hers that I took was biblical studies, (in those days a required course,) which is the field that one would expect a woman giving that kind of advice to be in. But before starting her academic career, she had been an archaeologist over in Israel, and before that, she had been a research virologist.
I have an ex that made 6 figures in tech. Mental health problems, addiction issues, abusive and controlling behavior...... a high salary doesn't mean someone has their life in order. I've dealt with the baby rabies 40 year old, it's absurd.
I have the VERY RARE exception to the rule. I'm 49, my GF(40) is a professional, makes boyband money, has her own hobbies (Horse riding), incredibly nerdy and introverted, non-materialistic, and she respects my time. She wouldn't have been great 20 years ago, because she never wanted kids (I already have grown kids) , she's also never been married, but at this point in my life she compliments me really well. She is the lowest maintenance relationship I've ever had. Her sister is at the same level, but has an opposite personality which I find really annoying after about 5 minutes. We've been together for almost 2 years now. I gave up waiting for the other shoe to drop- I've always expected some serious flaw or something even mildly offputting, but it hasn't happened.
I was a 33 yo professional when I met my mate. He was 37 and had moved on from a wife who gave up working as a teacher the minute they married.She got dull after nearly 20 years. The positives have been for him no drama, shared goals and both working toward early retirement which we did at 50 and 55. We have traveled, sailed the Caribbean on our sailboat nearly 10 yrs and now live abroad. I cannot imagine saying to my man he's not man enough for me.We were ablt to build a fantastic happy life together easily...ZERO strife.
@@urlauburlaub2222 True....a large % of our personality is genetically inherited. Our brains develop genetically...about 50% or higher is genetic. A very large twin study in recent years in Australia has proven this. US twin study samples were too small to prove this finding valid earlier, but it has now been proven highly valid (statitical tests of validity on large samples are rarely refuted like IQ being over 50% genetically inherited which has been proven longer than the more recent personality findings). I could write for literally hours about just these two subjects, I am a professor and have taught this to PhD grad students. Sybil Francis PhD clinical psychologist and professor since 1979
@Brian M I worked for Deloitte, but after making the big money (which involved being on both coasts of Africa during 2 different civil wars), I had to quit. I received a golden parachute - mainly for keeping my mouth shut. I became a math teacher at a private high school for Hollywood's elite offspring and wow, did my dating life take off! The fathers and step fathers of the children I taught loved the fact I liked horseback riding, was non-materialistic and didn't want kids. But, when I was a professional woman I could not exhibit that feminine side and I didn't have the time to "date".
@@joanneceo6523 Hi Joanne I understand having to keep your mouth shut...the higher we are in our career the more common THAT is. Isnt it great to not be in postions like that anymore...have a terrific life, you EARNED it...
@@latinaalma1947 Thank you Sybil. I DID EARN IT. But, I could never do it again. I made enough money to retire LITERALLY, on the Carib Coast of Colombia without SS, but by buying an annuity that pays out $30K a year, permitting me to live as a "pensionada" (even though I am too young) in most countries.
The only female professional I'd spend hours with is A PROFESSIONAL HOOKER. I have absolutely NO INTEREST whatsoever in wasting my time with any other professional female!
The worse are psycho analysts and doctors. They cant let go of their jobs and treat you as a patient and not as their partner. They have problems themselves the very conditions that they give advice on
Wish l watched this years ago. Got into a relationship with a pro/boss girl. Found out that her competitive and checklist mentality stressed me out and ended up making me get depressed and stressed. Great video.
One of them almost made me think I need to sell my dog to be more "successful" for them. Things can get with them as insane as with any crazy lady. Of course I didn't do it, just had one bad week where she got into my head...
Hm. Men are constantly talking about how smart so and so is, she has her masters, she makes blah blah $ amount per year... Never has a man told me “She was sweet, kind , helpful, encouraging, lovable , joyful.” Men are seriously focused on women’s degrees and accomplishments. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be mentioning it.
@@gabrielamartiniuc6322 I think you are right on this part as well. A lot of men due to their own selfishness and ego tend to brag more about their partner's degrees and accomplishments and often put such materialistic criteria in place. That leads to women grinding for professional status in order to attract successful men. Establishing relationship on the bedrock of emotional compatibility and maturity seems impossible these days.
As an european, i would say european women work fewer crazy hours compared to amaricans and canadians. Also the amount of student debt is way lower in europe. The rest of the list is still accurate though ....
Exept doctors man. I'm Polish and in my country if a female doctor works at the hospital it might be 400h+ / month especially in the surgical field( surgery, ginecology,laryngology) or anesthesiology. Plus that work puts a huge amount of stress on the person who is doing it. And it doesn't end when the woman comes back home from 24h shift...
@@bother222 I was a medical student for 2 years, I quit when I noticed this guys were literally slaves of the hospital. They work shifts of 36 hours with no sleep. They neglect their family's and kids. Medical professionals usually marry each other. I wouldn't recommend dating a women working in the medical sector, affairs with DR CHAD are common.
@@bother222 In all EU countries brother not just iin Poland. Unless she works at a private hospital which is open from 8 am to max 8 pm. I would never date a Doctor. I want a woman who has time for me
Dude at works wife is a bartender. He says she makes good money. They had a kid a little over almost 2 months ago. She's been back to work for about 2 weeks. Their infant daughter is in daycare. Unreal. They are first time parents and the idea of dropping their kid off in a daycare for 8 hours a day 5 days a week doesn't seem strange to them.
What's the point, you pay for someone else to raise the kid. Where I live in Canada, for a baby it's like $60/day. Her wage can't be THAT worth it to spend $300 a week on daycare.
@@navidtavakoli5887 traditional women are religious. i've never met an atheist woman who was traditional, all if not almost all atheist women are feminists.
sounds like my youngest sister, she married at 50 after dating for decades, she was a nurse anesthesist, she met the guy she married at the airport, very warped personality, my brother told me she got married, she hates the rest of the family,
Hahaha. Omg. I am this woman and I’m listening to this and cracking up bc it’s pretty accurate! Not 100%…but at least 75%. Steer clear of us. We’re nightmares!!
My current girlfriend is much less "low power" in her career, legitimately one of the best cooks in the country and has learned to cook what I like. It is a skill and learning process that has taken awhile because I like to stay fit and eat healthy and count calories and macros. Not only that, she is not argumentative or competitive. She puts in effort and helps me with a lot of other stuff in my life. Absolutely awesome compared to these "boss babes".
If you want an financially independent woman she will not stay home and look after you , she will not be take double shift to sort the house out, she won't look attractive 24/7. She will have her opinions. If you want to have a pretty woman who stays home looks after herself and the kids you need to provide. You can't have a cake and eat it too.
2:00 true, most have little to no social media, they see it as a waste of time. Agree, usually practical except for some jewelry. 4:00 my experience is kind of the opposite, highly inflexible, if you're 5 min late the night is ruined. 6:00 like a red pill, their schedules are priorities, accept it or leave. 7:00 agree, i call it the checkbox life, their life is a series of short term and long term checkboxes. 8:00 agree, the guy is their hobby, that's it. 10:50, 100%, my dds ex fiance would say, when did I say I was nice? 16:00 agree, they want it all but something's got to give 18:00 all of a sudden the checklist demands a child so other women don't have something they don't 21:00 ha, exactly what I said, their money is their money but your money is their money for being a traditional provider
Wow! Had the experience to date a professional woman for 4/5 months, I basically agree with everything you sayd, felt the competition from the First date. Some pro's Yes, but the masculinity and narcissism levels where too High for me to deal with, so i Just left her and go my way
My cousin married a doctor. He took her last name. He started studying to also become a doctor. They became parents after 2 years of dating. Married in 2018. Got another kid in 2019. Ran in too him the other day. He is now divorced. ”-But it was a joint decision and we are still friends” He still dont understand anything. Still a beta. Recommended your channel and book.
I remember in the early 1990s as a enlisted Army soldier how so many military guys, veterans all said how DC, NOVA area was full of single women. 💲💲💲 degrees good looks etc. Men could date a lot but finding a + type female was tough.
The money thing... that goes with the money they make being for them but the money you make being for "us". Big takeaway IMO. professional women's first love is money. It's #1. Even over kids if they get them. It's money. It's not the job. It's"her money" and getting it.
Rich, you nailed it. My ex-fiancee (doctor), insisted on getting back to work by the time our son turned 3 months old. And insisted on sending him to daycare when she had the ability to take care of him.
Could you guarantee she would keep her residency that she spent 12 years studying towards in 3 months?. But did it occur to you for the sake of your child, that YOU could have opted to take some time to care for your son? Or was her life over once she had your child?....
@@sullya6967 Well, in my case I was a doctor in the Air Force and I HAD to go back to work when my son was 2 months old. You have to consider these things.
@@sullya6967 And some women (various different jobs in the military, not just doctors ) HAD to return to work after 6 weeks, which is the convalescent time allotted to new mothers in the military. With force, I was able to use some leave time after the convalescent time, hence the 2.5 months off. And I used to create time to pump milk at work, so my baby would have adequate mother's milk at daycare. And then I would do the cooking and cleaning up when I got home. But first I would stop at a base gym that allowed babies and work out... Because I had 6 months to reach weight and fitness standards. I was back to pre-baby weight in 5 months and maxed out my PT test (100 pts) at the 6 month mark, earning the "Iron Medic" award. And sometimes I would have to bring the baby with me to work at nights and on weekends because my husband was always working. 😕🤣
18:40 that's imo more likely a 'nurture' issue. Children should be spending almost all their time attached to the mother in their early years, but many professional women (even those not considered professionals as per the videos definition) are with the baby for maybe only months before going back to work. And during that time many don't even breastfeed and force the child to cry itself to sleep in a crib... It's traumatic for the child
Agreed. But the number of women who are actually willing to set aside their careers to do that are almost non existent. They want to put off having kids til the last minute in trade for making money and traveling…. And I’ve had multiple scowl at the suggestion of otherwise. There will be a lot of women in 20 years bitter and resentful because they chose option career over option family.
You are spot on... I’m 46. I dated an attractive 35 year old finance VP that has 2 masters degrees. Very fun in the beginning... after 3 months I saw everything that Rich describes on this video.... Disagreeable, competing with me, narcissistic, takes sleeping medication, and anti depressants, her hair was falling out due to stress. You described my ex to a tee. Now I’m dating a sweet submissive 25 year old and I couldn’t be happier! Great content Rich!
@@krysiunia if all GFs are competitive, narcissists,... then I too, would prefer a pet. I want a woman who will make my life easier, not more difficult.
@@krysiunia leave it to the femtard to come up with such an asinine comment. It's real simple, men are looking for a helpmate, NOT a competitor. We get our fill of that during the workday. Why the fuck would we want more of that at home? Let alone risk our fortune and future earnings to obtain more of it. Men are looking for what they're missing. Beauty, support, nurture, affection and kindness. If the woman doesn't have that to offer, he doesn't need it. We have our own money and careers and our fill of competition.
@@cryptojihadi265 So you want a woman who makes you feel comfortable and satisfied with whatever you are and not challenge you to become a better person??...I will always date a woman who is ruthless and challenges me to become the better version of me everyday...My Dad always said me - " Marriage is a adventure enjoyed by only two adventurous people "...
I once met a smoking hot lawyer at a party in a group setting. She was 41. I was a 40 y.o. single Dad teaching karate and kickboxing full time. Sitting at a table with 8 people she said, " So Doug, are you interested in having more children?" We hadn't even had a private conversation at that point. When she was called out by the other woman at the table, she said she wanted to find out right away.
that's funny. In Australia, women love the tradesmen, they even prefer them over office guys. I know some guys who are marketing or finance professionals and do well in their careers and they struggle, whereas plumbers and brick layers are getting the girls.. Can you please address this?
SO ON POINT! I just broke up with this chick who was an alcoholic/coke head, sleeping issues, competitive af (we worked at the same sales job and she was the only rep above me and it was constant unhealthy competition between us), kept mentioning her friends whose husbands would pay rent/buy them cars, treated her dog as a baby. Learned my lesson, good thing it only lasted 3 months. Thanks for the vid
You are SOOOO right...in an attempt by dear friends to set up a double date, I was so unfortunate as to meet the most self-important, non-justifiable list having, wannabe bossy--professional help needing freak ever (a corporate attorney). Everything turned out verbatim, oddly just as you mentioned on this video + others, except with one big difference...after she'd mention some list items on what she expected, I was thinking (what do I have to lose here) ok, well now here is my list starting with what you will be wearing when I come home every day and this is what you will be doing every morning when I wake up, etc. etc. ---her jaw dropped and I remember saying, hey---if we're being honest here, shouldn't every list be checked (double entendre) ??? Life is too short not to keep it light when things get too heavy... : ) Thanks for all you do...
Haha definitely got the "you're not masculine enough" one lol because I don't go to the bar to drink alcohol and go to sport watching games smh lol. Also was told I was "uncreative" based off of a google article search she found. Basically wasn't a good match because (1) I didn't feel visible by her and (2) we had different senses of life (she lived to work and I work to live)
As a son to a proffesional mom, im telling you that even her job over kids is a not so difficult desicion. My mom greatly loves me and i love her dearly. But i have seen her probably only on weekends really. dont remember 1 time she came home before 4 pm. occasionaly she came home at 6 and most days, 90% of the times it was between 8-9. straight to bed btw. I had to learn to cook for myself cause she came home too tired to cook. Not everything was bad. infact these are the bad stuff. but i do pledge you to take that into considaration. especialy If you are looking to set up a family with healthy kids, and a good relationship with them overall. Money only solves money problem. Money cant solve childhood problems, and we all know how fucked up one can get by living an unhealthy childhood. kids need parents. period LOVE YOU MOM btw
Avoid if you can. At least don’t date those in high level stressful corporate positions. Nurses, school teachers, non profit workers and others are ok. Just my opinion. Otherwise it’s like dating another dude that just has a different anatomy, everything revolves around her job. Doesn’t sound appealing to me. Also there’s the Hypergamy aspect too. If she’s making more or even the same 💵 as you she could end up monkey branching to someone that makes more eventually. That kinda competition isn’t attractive.
Great video! I've dated a narcissistic lawyer, an alcoholic bank director, and a tax collector with a screwed-up family. With a professional woman, you will meet other professional women- her friends and co-workers. Some of them are very attractive, you have to pretend not to see them. I go with my gut feeling- a beautiful woman who makes you feel cold is in "business" mode, it doesn't matter what she looks like.
For many, you’re an extension of them, like everything else in their life. It’s a lot like dating a narcissist, because it is. I own my coastal home and car outright, have decent investments, a couple degrees and live an active lifestyle. Been single for near 5 years now. A while back I was on a 2nd date at a great seaside cafe with a seriously attractive professional woman, early 30’s. At one point, as I was talking, she interrupted and paid out at me (derogatory) on account of having the knife in my hand while talking. I said calmly, “Not cool. You never treat me that way.” She smiled with “Better get used to it.” I smiled, called the waiter, said we were done, and paid for the meal. I looked at her and said “Thank you. We will not be seeing each other again.” I left with her still at the table with a look of shock on her face. Life is good 😎🤙
She couldn't stand that you corrected her... Yet she was the one who belittled you first. She is total poison. I have one of them at my workplace and the narcissistic toxicity is the worst I have experienced
Regarding self care. How do you imagine a healthy, fertile woman that sits crunched in a cubicle for 60-100 hours a week pulling all-nighters, binge boozing on the weekends...
Yeah I've never been able to stomach most of them for very long. Though I did date a psychologist once that stayed for a few years, then went crazy taking too many prescription meds to battle all her hypochondria... was good while it lasted...lol They also seem to be more often than not, educated beyond their intellect and ready to argue about stupid shit that they should know..
I dated a woman in her master's for psych and had her Dr squared away. I can unequivocally say that she pushed me, shit-tested me, and ultimately betatized me to no end. She spun plates as we dated and shortly after I demanded monogamy, she dumped me. I wish I never wasted my time but thank God I didn't have a family with her: I want my kids to have the solid, healthy family that I didn't. She had narcissistic tendencies and was diagnosed with anorexia which she frequently battled.
I am the generation that lived too early to figure all this out and was naive, but remember I got a cold shower already just after being married, me and my now ex-wife was discussing something about our economy, and I summed my own and her salary together, and she got extremely angry, because it was her money, not something I could calculate in any way, but my money/salary was for the family, after 25 years of marriage I left with almost nothing, so young men, never marry, it is a disaster for your happiness, society are just exploiting your sense of plight
Career women really dont care what beta chumps think. I am so glad I can make my oen living. You men want everything from a woman but what hell do you bring to the table.
Married to my wife for 22 years now. She’s a DR.and makes over $200,000 can. While I make $60,000 a year. We NEVER had a money fight . We are as happy as two people can be. I know my story is not that common. Keep telling young men the truth👍🏻
My suggestion: Date a woman without children which has a good job, high social skills, isn’t attached to ideology, sees life as experience, is aware of financial independence for both. Never met a single woman of this kind which didn’t also had high social status. For me it worked. And I considered me as a beta male. Turned into a sigma male after my experience with woman of this kind. But I needed lots of advice from others. And I was open for advice. The only thing I noticed. These woman are usually easier to spot in the 30s and 40s.
@Markus You scored 100% on all points made. Yes, these women are easier to spot in the 30's, but by 40's they are pulling 60 hour weeks, so you won't spot them.
At age 28, I met divorced 44yr old pro gal. She made offer: she needed to squeeze out buzzer-beater baby. Asked me if I would like to be "supplier." She said that my involvement in child's life was up to me. I politely declined her offer. 2nd SCENARIO: At age 32, was dating a pro gal in her mid20s. Seems like she was ALWAYS ON THE GO. She never really, truly relaxed. If it wasn't work, it was something else that she had to be DOING. I ended it after 6 months.
With bonus, I had seven zeros 'on my tax form'. When someone I dated said, "Your medicine cabinet looks like Keith Richard's", I knew my career was taking a toll. Nothing for depression, but a senior at my firm turned me on to norotropics (for higher mental performance) and that led to the Soma, the Xanax, the dexedrine, in addition to the wine and expensive cocktails. I'm surprised I'm alive to write this post, but you are 100% correct on your content.
It would be interesting to see differences between different types of professions, careers, and income. I do know that divorce rates are MUCH lower for highly educated couples, but there is a difference between education like being a teacher, and being educated in business or law. Most of my male clients are in lower SES/education classes, and they have tons of problems with both dating and marriage (to non-professional women). It could also be regional, so professional women might be different in Boston vs. a more rural area.
Professional women in Boston are a disaster. I have dated a ton of them. They are all the same. Earn a good amount of income and are horrible at managing it. Have a bunch of debt, been ran through and have awful attitudes. Many are fat too
Great video and points. Lots of thoughts behind every action. I simplify a lot of these steps by looking at their values steps. Things such as is she willing to follow me, does she want a family structure and is willing to support it, Am I important in her time management, does she make decisions with or without me? Not too complicated but packed with implications. One thing we men have to wrap our heads around is that we all die alone. No matter wealth, position, or social status. We all die alone.
Once, she told me she could meet me only once a month. . . . and she used to live 3 -TINY- blocks away from me. . . . I went with it. . . It was a horrible experience, diminishing and frustrating. . If she tells you she is an accomplished professional and that a relationship is secondary to her, RUN, and DO NOT LOOK BACK!
It's not even a matter of should it's a matter of why would you bother when there's better choices? Get yourself a minimum wage chick. They're younger, prettier, more pleasant and agreeable and overall give you the proper dynamic for the relationship.
After a long term relationship with a published, nationally famous female who turned out to be a lifelong serial adulterer. Reflecting BACK on the relationship, our first date was working my schedule around her vehicle maintenance appointment. That set the theme for a decade of abuse
My last 3 relationships involved professional/career driven women and they all failed for the same reasons. This is really eye opening and I’m definitely considering changing my dating standards.
A lot of times they sleep with their bosses and colleagues. I was working for a German automotive company before I changed career to be an Airline Pilot. With the female pilots and female Cabin crew, lets not even talk about infidelities. If you're dating one, sorry and good luck.
I have been married to a professional for 3 years. My wife really has a problem turning off her go! go! go! switch from day 1. I pointed this out to her last week because I got fed up and she was like - holy shit! I am sorry - and she cried and told she will try to change. But yeah, Rich is on point with this one.
Another thing that Rich didn't delve into as deeply is the lopsided hypergamy. Personal anecdote: I'm in extremely good shape, have a lot of hobbies and do fun things, and make around 100K per year. Most women would consider me a catch, however whenever I've dated women who are successful business owners or professionals who are making 200K or more income and have their own house with luxurious furniture, etc, etc, ...they simply don't have the attraction because they're so much more successful and they can't look up to you.
I dated a dual very nerdy Chemical Engineer PhD - she had absolutely no personality and had no hobbies at all. But she had the tightest 🐈 I’d ever put my hands on, the money was nice too.
Hmm.... I honestly think that you'll attract what you are... If you act like an entitled prick towards a woman, they'll act the same way What do you mean by an 'agreeable woman', like are you not going to have disagreements? That's a terrible advice in my opinion. You want a partner that can help you grow and inspire you as well. You have to have mutual respect especially if you want to keep a satisfactory long term relationship. If you have a healthy way to communicate what you expect of each other then you could have a great relationship Thank you for the feedback though. I consider myself a go getter and your typical professional woman (just coffee and some wine for drugs lol). So I want to make sure that my partner will not feel like he's making a terrible decision of being with me lol
@Marie Nakajima . I agree. U are what u attract (for the most part). The Law of Attraction is no joke. I also agree that a man should want a partner who inspires him and can facilitate his growth & vice versa. Agreeable woman doesn't necessarily mean the woman just bows down to her man & acquiesce to everything he says - soley cuz he is the man. A evolved & secured man would discuss important issues with his woman (his partner in crime) and they both come to a mutual decision that is the best for their household. On the contrary, there are many woman who are disagreeable or argumentative for the sake of argument. It's like a sport to them or a shit test. It's all ego and they need to feel they hav superior ideas than her mate. That really SUX! So Marie, since we both believe in the Law of Attraction, what types of men are u attracting in your world, lately ? :)
@@TraderDT o yea totally! I agree that there are women who do victimize men to be able to work the system. I've met some... disgusting and toxic. Yet they're the same people that would call out toxic masculinity. Grinds my gears. Haha I don't really know how to answer that. Recently I talk alot about politics and investments with a lot of the men I meet. I find that there's very few women who are interested in these kinds of topics. Anyway, I feel absolutely blessed to be now surrounded by people who have a similar mindset as I do.
@@marienakajima566 Sorry for the delay. Fair question. Likes u, I believes in the 'law of attraction'. As i have evolved over the years, my environment and the peeps around me, including lady friends have changed too. Most women whom I date that are pulled into my orbit are spiritual (not religious), very health & fitness conscious, very feminine, good with finances, good head on her shoulders, emotionally centered & balanced. Low drama. Adventurous, good energy & just plain fun as they strive to be the best versions of themselves. Life is short on this earth school. Why waste time on peeps whom u are not in harmony with (male or female), who brings drama, conflict & negative energy. Whose got time for that nonsense? Ain't worth it..........u agree Marie ? Or are u one of these women who need drama to get the endorphins pumping so u can feel alive...lol. Just kidding, :)
Every single point you made here is spot on about professional women and the challenges and benefits and disadvantages of dating them. Excellent, as a man in my 40s, 43, every single point was spot on.
I confirm what you say it's 100% true. I can say by experience that In London UK: the dating scene is populated by a lot of overworked professional women who are in a rush to tick the marriage and kids box out of the list. As an Italian I was surprised that some of them were not even able to prepare a basic meal and eat takeaway every day. It really takes time and effort to find the right partner.
This is mostly in line with my experience. One thing though, the ridiculous long hours thing is an American thing. American corporate culture is to keep staff at work as long as possible, and turn it into a lifestyle not a job. It's very toxic. I avoid overtime like the plague because I think over about 30 hours on the tools, I'm done, try as I might, my productivity is gone, and I'm mentally and physically burnt out. I am constantly encouraged to do overtime and I would enjoy the money, but I don't feel like it's a great deal for me or my employer. Short days are more productive, you tend to set goals and work harder to meet them. These long hours in many workplaces are a relic of the industrial revolution. The workplace has a lot to answer for in terms of modern social issues, and American workplace culture seems to be some of the most toxic in the developed world. You have to go to Asia to really see worse tbh.
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Rich does your book go over finances for men too? I am interested in purchasing it
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Thank you for Saving my Life Richard ! When you got Manila lets play some golf and Cruise on my islands
Rich if you can read this , Thank You! Your stuff has really helped me.
@@FreshTake01 why do you say that I am interested in the book genuinely. Are you Saying that Bc I defended F and F from being defamed without evidence??
Watching Rich in my early 20’s is like a lifehack
Oh boy it is
Watching Rich in my late 30's with physical health problems makes me realize my life is over
@@vincentfalcone9218 I don’t think he would agree bro
@@vincentfalcone9218 still early for you bro. Get it resolved
Dude, he is going to save you decades of heart ache and other problems. His chapter of red flag women to avoid alone is priceless..
The professionals I've dated usually are book smart but were clueless to the real world. Or tend to have no personality. BUT it was nice when they had their own money.
Yep, I know a PhD candidate in Chemistry/Chemical Engineering and there is nothing for me to talk with her about besides school/work, chemistry, university and drama with her "friends"/roommates.
sounds like just your average grad student;
they know some of their field of work (sometimes a lot), but when it comes to real world issues they're like toddlers. And because they only focussed on their study, they have no other hobbies or anything that excites their life up because all they did was study and party....
These are the most boring and close minded people i've ever encountered.
@@ishitrealbad3039 sounds like most Americans
This
@@markfrancis2370 sounds like the average western person AKA Baizuo
I’ve dated: a pharmacist, nurses, senior policy analyst, and a world class interior designer. Dunno why I never considered a Starbucks barista, but after watching this, it’s time to start changing dating based on relatively similar incomes to dating based on being a compliment to my life.
This video 💯% nails the issues of dating professional women.
Believe me bro , tbh things don't change much for that group also ... Man you will be amazed somehow they like the abusive men ... If you are in a higher tier do be there .. I had done this mistake .... Thought may be this crowd will be balanced ..... That just surprised me like Samuel Jackson
In court, they can all screw you. Period.
I made this mistake myself. They are hyper independent and constantly competitive with you at your similar income level. It’s complexly annoying trying to over power their masculine constantly so that they ultimately submit and act feminine. It is so mentally draining.
@@cabdolla Proof? This is such a lie. Did you even take time to romance her? Have private couple time? Was that why she couldn’t be bothered. No one is competing with their true partner.
@@lotstosay6359 I’ve been on countless dates with women above 31 and below 31. It’s substantially better with younger women. Hands down. Full stop. I know how to court a woman, and the ones above 31, and specially above 35, are terrible. Around 38 they realize they missed the boat for kids and try to become somewhat nice again but it’s too late at that point. I’m not getting a mid life woman pregnant.
Agree completely, dated a ‘career girl’ working for a high tech company. You nailed it exactly. Eventually I ended the relationship because it just became too much work. Obsessed with work, competitive… always wanting to compare incomes, houses, stock portfolios. No hobbies other than drinking wine with her girlfriends. Endlessly droning on about work drama. Successful but still ‘oppressed by the patriarchy’. Couldn’t understand why her ‘amazing career’ wasn’t more important to me than being feminine, sweet, loving etc.
Wouldn’t cook a meal to save her life, no workout routine…’too busy’.
I want to throw up. Comparing stock portfolios? And income and houses? She is a materialistic freak. Has the whole world gone mad???
Nailed it sounds very familiar to what I experienced. I couldn’t stand dating a woman like this.
Sounds, very, VERY familiar in what you wrote.
Christ, JUST STAY AWAY from those ones..!
Modern career women are useless their only hobbies are drinking like an AA meeting should be their next stop. If you date them use them and waste what youth they have. Promise marriage then dump them
Bet you she didn't clean the kitchen nor the house more than three times in 8 years, because "she's the breadwinner". And while you're doing it, she's putting down her workmates. She's got it all under her thumb. They'll get it back.
After dating a surgeon, I can say this guy absolutely nails it.
agreed- one of his best videos.
Yes. Avoid getting "scheduled"
How’d it work out?
Imagine how she could surgically dismantle you in divorce proceedings.
@@danielcuevas5899 must've been a disaster
There comes a point in a man’s life when he begins to question if it’s even worth the hassle anymore. Perhaps even to question why he ever thought it was worth it.
Super right
@@edm-london1660 LOL wtf is this nonsense
The answer lays in your hand ✋
Bro, i was married to a very pretty lady, good sex, AAAAAND made $500,000 compared to my $40,000 a year. i divorced her within three years!!!! Let that sink in!!!!
I'm at that point right now!
Very True. No hobbies just work and off days is relaxing at home. Constant competition on all aspect. Disrespectful talking down to you and very disagreeable. They have ego that they cannot be wrong. They will hardly ever apologize. Highly demanding, use their work attitude towards you such as talking without filter and to attack and defeat you. They make terrible quarrelsome wife, very unpleasant. I can't imagine what kind of Mother they are and how they will treat and talk to their children. Narcissist is a huge red flag. Mental and emotional drain. This is not someone you want to come home to after a hard day's work.
A woman needs to respect a man more than she loves him. Once the respect is gone so is the relationship
this is so true and it's really unfortunate. Especially lawyers will always look down upon everyone else because only they can know everything. If they don't it, nobody does.
Exactly my friend. I subscribe every single word you post "they will hardly ever apologize" 10/10.
Correct,
After a hard days work you will come home to do battle in an arena🥊🥊🥊
My God this was my entire 13 year relationship that I just left. Working 12 hour overnight to come home to arguments man
Rich I experienced all these points in a recent LTR with an attorney. The point of ssri use, lack of hobbies, drinking/substance issues, competing and check lists. Need to pay attention to red flags early on and set boundaries to filter out early. Going through your book now. I appreciate all the great wisdom.
I usually tend to not agree with Rich in everything he says in other videos, however, he is spot on in this video. I have dated career vvomen in the past and I work with them on daily basis in corporate America in high tech field, and as Rich said they tend to be super competitive. They can't switch between competition at work and relaxing and having good time outside of work. They always try to find things to make them feel superior to a man. Also, they tend to be very selfish and narcissistic. My ex who was in the tech field with a doctorate degree used to talk about herself for hours and never asked how my day was or how I am doing. I have a female coworker who is the same, she just talks about herself and complain all the time, never check on other people and never gets a quality work done.
I also noticed that career vvomen tend to have subpar hygiene due to their busy schedule. No legs or arms shaving, not washing properly, bad eating habits, etc. They just don't emit any feminine vibe.
I am currently dating a vvoman who works normal job and she treats me well and she got time to do things together. What those career vvomen fail to understand is that most men don't care about the letters after their name, that won't give men erection.
@@mikes4286 Great points! They are basically men in women's body. Not worth if she is in her masculine state all the time.
@@peixegatol There was a time when I was a man in a woman's body- and then I was born.
SSRIs/alcohol: holy $♤!t, successful women are such a mental mess
@@mikes4286 Bull shite. Bad hygiene due to career? You know how much effort it takes to maintain your hair makeup and outfits to look the part at work? Eating habits? So you mean they grab take out and aren’t at home cooking for you? (like a wife) A job doesn’t change her biology. Don’t forget that. You just chose bad partners. It’s not her career. Go get that nice mail order bride to suck your wallet dry. Have fun.
My experience with Career women is they’re in a hurry to get in a relationship because they need to check that box off of their list. They got irritated when I didn’t rush the relationship and took it slow to see if something would develop. If a relationship wasn’t locked down in a certain amount of time, they bounced. This was my experience dating 3 “career” women.
I'm an older dude 49. Been through all the mistakes. Your content is still relevant to me and appreciated.
I'm a 35 years old Greek lawyer in Switzerland and in my experience dating professional women is a nightmare. Recently, I blocked on the phone an African-Brazilian female lawyer from London for not respecting my time. My ex Greek girlfriend was also a lawyer. She stayed with me for 14 years for the sex, but I couldn't marry her, because she had become too disagreeable. The professional women have an attitude...
Rich Cooper keep up the good work!
@@urlauburlaub2222 If you are a pick up artist psychologist, you should find another job. If you are a professional psychologist you should throw away your certificates. Your evaluation about me is totally wrong. Personally, I have never asked for something back from a girlfriend and I never expect things from other people. My problem was that I was an extremely nice guy and my previous girlfriends were taking advantage of it. I am a lawyer, I have money, my male organ is 8,5 inches and very thick, I have many certificates in languages, but my dating life was a disaster. In the end, I saw the videos of Rich Cooper and Coach Red Pill(Gonzalo Lira) and after practicing their advice, my life changed forever. My current girlfriend is a Muslim lady from the Middle East(Kurdish, Jewish and Arab) and she is amazing. In the end it is a matter of culture. As a new immigrant in a Western country, like Switzerland, I came across a post feminist nightmare, where the women have become very spoiled and masculine. Moreover, in my region there were only a very few Greek women, mostly married with Greek men. I dated some Swiss women, but they were real sociopaths with serious daddy issues. These girls were extremely spoiled by their Swiss fathers and now they are undateable. The Swiss men are taking wives from Thailand, Africa and Brazil and the blonde Swiss ladies are single.Many of them have even become homosexuals, because they could not find a man. The Middle Eastern girls are still feminine and sweet with a kind heart. The feminist propaganda has not touched them yet.
14 years ? Hope you re dating other chicks in the same time
If a woman’s professional, she has attitude. If a man’s professional, he’s applauded for being assertive.
How many plates did you break?
@@CEWIII9873
Probably a Great Bloody Many..!
Nailed it with the no hobbies. I've dated a ton of women like this and it's alarming how often they turn out to bore me. I always ask women what their passion is and if she stares at me blankly that's a red flag. These women also usually complain about how much they work. This is a midlife crisis waiting to happen in my opinion.
With a professional woman, you are always going to be second fiddle to her laptop. She'll never put it down, even on vacation.
and you'll still be paying the bills.
Lower than that, 1-work 2 her kids 3 her cats/dogs 4-her family, you'll be 5th or lower
Yeah a mate of mine's professional misses is always on her lab top ,that be true
It's fine . Cause I never put my laptop down too
Man, I hate that sht
I do not recommend dating/marrying "professional" women. Not only will they not have time for you or the family they are extremely competitive. The onlly reason they are even with you is because they can't find a better man because those men rejected them and married hotter younger more submissive women
Nevermind being competitive.....god help you if you lose your job.
I watched the marriage (at least 15 years) of an accountant to a lawyer with 2 kids turn into a divorce because it took the male accountant about 1 and a half years to find a job after the 2008 crash. This happened even AFTER he found a new job.
A professional woman will NOT stand by you during hard times - no matter how many vows they take or kids you have.
most of them are unrealistic when it comes to dating, they demand a lot and won't compromise
@@michaelsix9684
This has now become Awalt, Whether they work at the pay & shoe counter at a bowling alley or they're college educated accountants who inherit ad metal electroplating business. Our side of society has subsided and pussified ourselves so much that they see no reason to compromise on anything. I know this from experience, both relationship & work wise.
@@robertsuttner8999 you're right, I was a librarian for 25 yrs., never work in a woman's field, they will hold you back!
What I've noticed once is that this kind of women get married with postmen, cops etc...
Dating Professional Women - 14 Points Men MUST Understand
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Love all 14 bro 👊
Okay so for number 4 could it work if she doesn’t have daddy issues ??😂
Sooooo, what are you saying?
Haha yep. They already got their reward in life, let them enjoy it all, ALONE.
I like that list, especially points 6 & 9
I've dated professional girls and pretty uneducated girls. By far the professional ones have better topics of conversation far beyond gossip and I personally find it attractive in a woman who is professional in her field. However, they tend to be very very competitive and this translates into a constant war of egos that is very difficult to handle, in addition to constant tests to verify that you are at the same level.
On a mental level it's fucking stressful to date someone like that.
I Know what you mean buddy, the conversations are deep and intellectual..mind caressing. However it's all for a while, once that wears off You are left with an argumentative ever debating woman. I have been there bro.
But they make the best side chicks.
@@seanlovi8798 It is really difficult to have a relationship with a professional girl, because they tend to have a lot of ego. I was with an incredible girl but every argument she always had to be fucking right.
Yes. Yes. My ex-wife is a professor and from personal experience can attest to all the points he makes, with one amendment and an addition. 1) don’t assume that just because she makes good money that she is good with money (same goes for men). I’ve known quite a few professional woman that were shit with money. 2) I think the most important point to drive home is that the vast majority of hard-charging professional woman are actually extremely unhappy. They are ruled by ego and have no conception of where to derive real happiness. Marriages with them are toxic.
Currently going through a divorce with a woman just like you described and guys he is 100% spot on with his assessment. The biggest issue is the narcissism, it's disgusting behavior. This woman constantly pushed against my boundaries, tried to belittle me and emasculate me and let me tell you I'm no puss boy by any means so that kind of shit was it for me. I'm not competing with my woman, there's no competition. She comes from what would be considered a wealthy family, the father has a couple of light jet aircraft, boats, multiple homes you know the story. Here's the kicker, I am a man of greater means than her or her father and family and this has always bothered her and her family lmao. It was entertaining to watch and listen to at first but I was just exhausted in the end. Her family, friends and what used to be a career came before me and all the while I was the one solely providing for her and I..... So, even though I come from much greater means, her arrogance and better than you and everyone else attitude from her accomplishments was still there, and still belittling to me so I said I'm out. There's no room or time for yourself with women like this, they are constantly demanding you be on their schedule this and that. With my situation, that shit didn't cut it. I'm the captain of this ship, you wanna be in the wheelhouse with me you gotta bring a whole helluva lot more to the table than that BS.
Wow why did you marry her bro?
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@@startingtech3900 Honestly, I'm a recovering alcoholic, been sober for nearly three years now so when she and I met, it was party party party etc... we share quite a bit in common, like outdoor sporting activities (that I have taken her all over the world to accomplish) she's a great chef, and she's hot. My guard was completely down. It took about a year after quitting the sauce that I started to really see through the BS. I could always see it however having booze in my veins 24/7 made me numb and obviously susceptible to things of this nature. I'm on a good path now, this really has made me a better person.
@@pelagic6 same brother. I am recovered Opiate addict. Guess who got me into the shit? a woman.. I’m 3 years clean too. cheers brother. You are better off now. you are rich and healthy!
@@startingtech3900 Thanks for sharing this, addiction takes great strength to fight and overcome as you know so respect for that 👊🏻 We live and learn.
All true. Additionally - Professional women like this typically have a very busy work related social life. Dinners, banquets, charity events, etc. and you will be expected to be their +1 to everything. That's an important thing on their want list. Saying no will be met with disappointment & guilt. Been there done that.
"You can't handle me!"
Well, who wants to have to "handle" a woman?
Exactly. Or a "man".
The thing about professional women, is that the don't know that they don't know shit. They actually think they're smarter and better than everyone else when they're usually not. Never be impressed with what they have, only be impressed by how they treat others.
Aimless, clueless, unintelligent arrogance is what you endure. You sit there and explain how the world works and you are accurate but they will combat you until the end with inferior aimless logic. It is maddening to deal with. You can’t deal with it
I’d love to have a woman that didn’t get home from teaching, similar to being a Navy Seal in their minds, and didn’t hit the sweats and binge on wine and Netflix. But hey…she’ll take half of my real estate. So I’ll keep working out and loving on my Pitbulls 😂
@hodl XRP I did..tard 😂
@hodl XRP I’ve got big dogs, guns and real estate to compensate 😂. But if I’m honest….you are correct bra
@hodl XRP please learn from my self inflicted mistake. If I can save one of you sunsabitches, the juice is worth the squeeze
@hodl XRP that’s what I’ve heard
@hodl XRP when you have so much money…so many days to catch double digit bass…adderall and a 6 pack for days…you tolerate a lil blue pill 💊
Rich, you explained my ex gf perfectly. She was pre med, wanting to become a Dr. We are both extremely competitive, but it was always me who compromised my desires/schedule to make the relationship work. Something I’ll also add: they have a difficult time being 100% transparent. Their narcissistic personality makes them feel so special that they don’t want anyone to ever understand them: because how could anyone ever understand someone so “unique and awesome.” I started to feel emasculated, and that was the end of that relationship. Career women are very masculine, but they don’t understand that guys want someone to compliment themselves, not more masculine energy.
Mate, I was on eggshells the whole relationship, and to this day, I'm still rehearsing the best way to tell her which bin to put the recycling.
Bro. I just dated this med student and you are spot on. It is impossible to date them because when they start going for the final years before they get that certificate, she is having a relationship with her PhD than her man.
Been there and I agree. Your needs will never be met or they will for a week then I switches back until your next fight.
The thing I've noticed about professional women is that a lot of them act like how they think men are. So they over compensate, and have their own version of it, which usually misses the mark and that's where the competition attitude comes in.
The other aspect is that, unlike guys, they have to get into 'character' to hold their professional job, which means they can rarely turn that off, which you sort of touched on. So whatever baseline personality they have, morphs into what they need to be at the workplace. Modt guys just turn it on and off. Professional at work, family dad at home.
Yep & they will go around saying they are to intimidating for most guys as their egos are outta wack.
“The thing I've noticed about professional women is that a lot of them act like how they think men are”
Yes. In British culture, when I worked in the financial district in the City of London, heavy drinking to match male drinkers in the office, for example.
This is exactly right. You see this amongst women cops a lot too. It’s so simple what us guys like; fit, beautiful, feminine and cooperative women. It’s really that simple
@@jaredmello And a doormat....basically
Dude, you nailed it!
As someone who spent 20years with a professional turned senior executive, I totally agree. Especially the part about their careers taking precidence over your life ambitions. Be careful what you wish for!. They become total narcissists and entitled to lie to you through omission and about the little things they don't even need to lie about.
Went on a date with a lawyer last week. One of the 1st questions she asks me is “where do you see yourself professionally within the next 10years” lol
Job interview - just another shit test. 😂
Women make rules for betas that they break for alphas..she wouldn't have asked Chad/Tyrone that...
@@ojosazules8828 haha. Keep dreaming
LMAO - this a job application or something?
One more thing to know about dating professional women is “Blue balls,” you gonna have a lot of that.
I'm currently a Ph.D. candidate, about to get my degree from a university in the US. Just don't date Ph.D. girls. I'm sure there must be good ones out there, but from my experience they are often extremely entitled. It doesn't matter if you study in a university that is "better rated", or if you are pursuing a STEM degree with higher earning potential. Oh no, you also need to look like giga chad and you must be ready to start a LTR right after the first date...
When I was in college, one of my professors with whom I was on friendly terms and had nice conversations outside of class told me that I should give girls who didn't attend college a fair chance as potential dating or marriage partners because they were, she said, better adjusted as women and human beings than collegiate women. That's right, SHE: the professor rendering that unsolicited advice was herself a woman with multiple doctoral degrees. This was a Catholic college, and the class of hers that I took was biblical studies, (in those days a required course,) which is the field that one would expect a woman giving that kind of advice to be in. But before starting her academic career, she had been an archaeologist over in Israel, and before that, she had been a research virologist.
I’m married to a woman with a P.h.D. That hasn’t been my experience.
Not like P.H.Ds haven’t made men entitled.
I don’t want a women to compete with me. And my time is valuable, I’ve walked away from several professional women because of that nonsense!
I have an ex that made 6 figures in tech. Mental health problems, addiction issues, abusive and controlling behavior...... a high salary doesn't mean someone has their life in order. I've dealt with the baby rabies 40 year old, it's absurd.
Probably ndp or bpd. That’s how they are successful as well with that disorder - less agreeable!
I'll bet incredible in the bedroom
@@diviningrod2671 yup !
@@jwlove66 knew it, it's amazing what we men will do for housing and laundry services
I have the VERY RARE exception to the rule. I'm 49, my GF(40) is a professional, makes boyband money, has her own hobbies (Horse riding), incredibly nerdy and introverted, non-materialistic, and she respects my time. She wouldn't have been great 20 years ago, because she never wanted kids (I already have grown kids) , she's also never been married, but at this point in my life she compliments me really well. She is the lowest maintenance relationship I've ever had. Her sister is at the same level, but has an opposite personality which I find really annoying after about 5 minutes. We've been together for almost 2 years now. I gave up waiting for the other shoe to drop- I've always expected some serious flaw or something even mildly offputting, but it hasn't happened.
I was a 33 yo professional when I met my mate. He was 37 and had moved on from a wife who gave up working as a teacher the minute they married.She got dull after nearly 20 years. The positives have been for him no drama, shared goals and both working toward early retirement which we did at 50 and 55. We have traveled, sailed the Caribbean on our sailboat nearly 10 yrs and now live abroad. I cannot imagine saying to my man he's not man enough for me.We were ablt to build a fantastic happy life together easily...ZERO strife.
@@urlauburlaub2222 True....a large % of our personality is genetically inherited. Our brains develop genetically...about 50% or higher is genetic. A very large twin study in recent years in Australia has proven this. US twin study samples were too small to prove this finding valid earlier, but it has now been proven highly valid (statitical tests of validity on large samples are rarely refuted like IQ being over 50% genetically inherited which has been proven longer than the more recent personality findings). I could write for literally hours about just these two subjects, I am a professor and have taught this to PhD grad students. Sybil Francis PhD clinical psychologist and professor since 1979
@Brian M I worked for Deloitte, but after making the big money (which involved being on both coasts of Africa during 2 different civil wars), I had to quit. I received a golden parachute - mainly for keeping my mouth shut. I became a math teacher at a private high school for Hollywood's elite offspring and wow, did my dating life take off! The fathers and step fathers of the children I taught loved the fact I liked horseback riding, was non-materialistic and didn't want kids. But, when I was a professional woman I could not exhibit that feminine side and I didn't have the time to "date".
@@joanneceo6523 Hi Joanne I understand having to keep your mouth shut...the higher we are in our career the more common THAT is. Isnt it great to not be in postions like that anymore...have a terrific life, you EARNED it...
@@latinaalma1947 Thank you Sybil. I DID EARN IT. But, I could never do it again. I made enough money to retire LITERALLY, on the Carib Coast of Colombia without SS, but by buying an annuity that pays out $30K a year, permitting me to live as a "pensionada" (even though I am too young) in most countries.
The only female professional I'd spend hours with is A PROFESSIONAL HOOKER. I have absolutely NO INTEREST whatsoever in wasting my time with any other professional female!
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Bro this made my week. Omg. 😄 🤣 😂 😆 😄 🤣 😂 😆 😄
U have a point bro.. makes sense 😂😂
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My mentor always told me find somebody that will complete you and not compete with you.
Without someone you are not incomplete.
They can add value and compliment, never complete as you exist as a whole with or without them.
@@0ccam5Raz0r Thank you for the words, brother.
Assuming you are incomplete without someone makes your mentor a moron.
Women are in the passenger seat, they are not the car.
@@Shyhalu Please chill out. I can feel your energy from two planets away.
Quiet Cat, simple but to true. Should be number one on the Rich list. Mini me
The worse are psycho analysts and doctors. They cant let go of their jobs and treat you as a patient and not as their partner. They have problems themselves the very conditions that they give advice on
They are human too
Doctors have an excuse, but the narcissist sniff their own ass types don't.
Wish l watched this years ago. Got into a relationship with a pro/boss girl. Found out that her competitive and checklist mentality stressed me out and ended up making me get depressed and stressed. Great video.
One of them almost made me think I need to sell my dog to be more "successful" for them.
Things can get with them as insane as with any crazy lady.
Of course I didn't do it, just had one bad week where she got into my head...
Hm. Men are constantly talking about how smart so and so is, she has her masters, she makes blah blah $ amount per year... Never has a man told me “She was sweet, kind , helpful, encouraging, lovable , joyful.” Men are seriously focused on women’s degrees and accomplishments. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be mentioning it.
@@gabrielamartiniuc6322 I think you are right on this part as well. A lot of men due to their own selfishness and ego tend to brag more about their partner's degrees and accomplishments and often put such materialistic criteria in place. That leads to women grinding for professional status in order to attract successful men. Establishing relationship on the bedrock of emotional compatibility and maturity seems impossible these days.
@@gabrielamartiniuc6322to be honest every choice of a partner comes with its own consequences you gotta deal with
That's like Dating half women while full women is not enough for a Man 🤔
As an european, i would say european women work fewer crazy hours compared to amaricans and canadians. Also the amount of student debt is way lower in europe.
The rest of the list is still accurate though ....
Exept doctors man. I'm Polish and in my country if a female doctor works at the hospital it might be 400h+ / month especially in the surgical field( surgery, ginecology,laryngology) or anesthesiology. Plus that work puts a huge amount of stress on the person who is doing it. And it doesn't end when the woman comes back home from 24h shift...
@@bother222 I was a medical student for 2 years, I quit when I noticed this guys were literally slaves of the hospital. They work shifts of 36 hours with no sleep. They neglect their family's and kids. Medical professionals usually marry each other. I wouldn't recommend dating a women working in the medical sector, affairs with DR CHAD are common.
@@bother222 In all EU countries brother not just iin Poland. Unless she works at a private hospital which is open from 8 am to max 8 pm. I would never date a Doctor. I want a woman who has time for me
Dude at works wife is a bartender. He says she makes good money. They had a kid a little over almost 2 months ago. She's been back to work for about 2 weeks. Their infant daughter is in daycare. Unreal. They are first time parents and the idea of dropping their kid off in a daycare for 8 hours a day 5 days a week doesn't seem strange to them.
What's the point, you pay for someone else to raise the kid. Where I live in Canada, for a baby it's like $60/day. Her wage can't be THAT worth it to spend $300 a week on daycare.
@@Zanatos9 Knowing those 2 it's easier for them to have strangers watch the kid. They aren't about to allow some baby interrupt their lives.
@@Zanatos9 the Feds are trying to pass $10 per day daycare. Taxes will have to rise to make this affordable.
Disgusting!!!
I met lots of career women in my 20s, pharmacists, nurses etc. I'm 65, lots of them are still single decades later
Best type of women for marriage are beautiful, obedient and submissive housewives.
@@pauloTARSO-sb3gl Where is your country?
in other words; Traditional.
@@ishitrealbad3039 and religious.
@@navidtavakoli5887 traditional women are religious.
i've never met an atheist woman who was traditional, all if not almost all atheist women are feminists.
@@ishitrealbad3039 I agree with you. These feminists are followers of Satan.
Not really worth it - they are dull, full of demands and arrogant while not being available or a home maker
sounds like my youngest sister, she married at 50 after dating for decades, she was a nurse anesthesist, she met the guy she married at the airport, very warped personality, my brother told me she got married, she hates the rest of the family,
@@michaelsix9684 She met him at the airport... hotel bar?
@@JohnLannholm Don't know, she began a casual conversation, they had chemistry, and it took off. Married now over 10 yrs.
@@michaelsix9684 she won't be having kids at that age. Lol
Hahaha. Omg. I am this woman and I’m listening to this and cracking up bc it’s pretty accurate! Not 100%…but at least 75%. Steer clear of us. We’re nightmares!!
Weird
My current girlfriend is much less "low power" in her career, legitimately one of the best cooks in the country and has learned to cook what I like. It is a skill and learning process that has taken awhile because I like to stay fit and eat healthy and count calories and macros. Not only that, she is not argumentative or competitive. She puts in effort and helps me with a lot of other stuff in my life. Absolutely awesome compared to these "boss babes".
If you want an financially independent woman she will not stay home and look after you , she will not be take double shift to sort the house out, she won't look attractive 24/7.
She will have her opinions.
If you want to have a pretty woman who stays home looks after herself and the kids you need to provide.
You can't have a cake and eat it too.
2:00 true, most have little to no social media, they see it as a waste of time.
Agree, usually practical except for some jewelry.
4:00 my experience is kind of the opposite, highly inflexible, if you're 5 min late the night is ruined.
6:00 like a red pill, their schedules are priorities, accept it or leave.
7:00 agree, i call it the checkbox life, their life is a series of short term and long term checkboxes.
8:00 agree, the guy is their hobby, that's it.
10:50, 100%, my dds ex fiance would say, when did I say I was nice?
16:00 agree, they want it all but something's got to give
18:00 all of a sudden the checklist demands a child so other women don't have something they don't
21:00 ha, exactly what I said, their money is their money but your money is their money for being a traditional provider
Wow! Had the experience to date a professional woman for 4/5 months, I basically agree with everything you sayd, felt the competition from the First date.
Some pro's Yes, but the masculinity and narcissism levels where too High for me to deal with, so i Just left her and go my way
My cousin married a doctor. He took her last name. He started studying to also become a doctor.
They became parents after 2 years of dating. Married in 2018. Got another kid in 2019. Ran in too him the other day. He is now divorced. ”-But it was a joint decision and we are still friends”
He still dont understand anything. Still a beta. Recommended your channel and book.
Holy shit, your cousin is a pathetic omega male 😂
@@alexarzamendi9475 I know. Such a wuss.
@Joakim B - He took her last name! Ugh!
Oh dear...
Took her last name? 🙄🙄🙄🙄🤦♂️🤦♂️😂😂😂
I used to live in Washington DC after college --- bursting at the seams with professional women! Heads up
I remember in the early 1990s as a enlisted Army soldier how so many military guys, veterans all said how DC, NOVA area was full of single women. 💲💲💲 degrees good looks etc. Men could date a lot but finding a + type female was tough.
The money thing... that goes with the money they make being for them but the money you make being for "us". Big takeaway IMO. professional women's first love is money. It's #1. Even over kids if they get them. It's money. It's not the job. It's"her money" and getting it.
Rich, you nailed it. My ex-fiancee (doctor), insisted on getting back to work by the time our son turned 3 months old. And insisted on sending him to daycare when she had the ability to take care of him.
12 years of school ain't for nothing
Could you guarantee she would keep her residency that she spent 12 years studying towards in 3 months?. But did it occur to you for the sake of your child, that YOU could have opted to take some time to care for your son? Or was her life over once she had your child?....
@@sullya6967 Well, in my case I was a doctor in the Air Force and I HAD to go back to work when my son was 2 months old. You have to consider these things.
@@LisaCulton Hi Lisa, I'm glad you mentioned it. Just gives me more perspective on the whole thing for career women
@@sullya6967 And some women (various different jobs in the military, not just doctors ) HAD to return to work after 6 weeks, which is the convalescent time allotted to new mothers in the military. With force, I was able to use some leave time after the convalescent time, hence the 2.5 months off. And I used to create time to pump milk at work, so my baby would have adequate mother's milk at daycare. And then I would do the cooking and cleaning up when I got home. But first I would stop at a base gym that allowed babies and work out... Because I had 6 months to reach weight and fitness standards. I was back to pre-baby weight in 5 months and maxed out my PT test (100 pts) at the 6 month mark, earning the "Iron Medic" award. And sometimes I would have to bring the baby with me to work at nights and on weekends because my husband was always working. 😕🤣
18:40 that's imo more likely a 'nurture' issue. Children should be spending almost all their time attached to the mother in their early years, but many professional women (even those not considered professionals as per the videos definition) are with the baby for maybe only months before going back to work. And during that time many don't even breastfeed and force the child to cry itself to sleep in a crib... It's traumatic for the child
Agreed. But the number of women who are actually willing to set aside their careers to do that are almost non existent. They want to put off having kids til the last minute in trade for making money and traveling…. And I’ve had multiple scowl at the suggestion of otherwise. There will be a lot of women in 20 years bitter and resentful because they chose option career over option family.
That s why I did my best to my ex be with my kids into 3y old
Thank you for saying this, I appreciate this comment
You are spot on... I’m 46. I dated an attractive 35 year old finance VP that has 2 masters degrees. Very fun in the beginning... after 3 months I saw everything that Rich describes on this video.... Disagreeable, competing with me, narcissistic, takes sleeping medication, and anti depressants, her hair was falling out due to stress. You described my ex to a tee. Now I’m dating a sweet submissive 25 year old and I couldn’t be happier! Great content Rich!
If what you want is a submissive rather than a kindred spirit I suppose that's fine.
It sounds like you want a pet, not a gf.
@@krysiunia if all GFs are competitive, narcissists,... then I too, would prefer a pet. I want a woman who will make my life easier, not more difficult.
@@krysiunia leave it to the femtard to come up with such an asinine comment.
It's real simple, men are looking for a helpmate, NOT a competitor. We get our fill of that during the workday. Why the fuck would we want more of that at home? Let alone risk our fortune and future earnings to obtain more of it.
Men are looking for what they're missing. Beauty, support, nurture, affection and kindness.
If the woman doesn't have that to offer, he doesn't need it. We have our own money and careers and our fill of competition.
@@cryptojihadi265 So you want a woman who makes you feel comfortable and satisfied with whatever you are and not challenge you to become a better person??...I will always date a woman who is ruthless and challenges me to become the better version of me everyday...My Dad always said me - " Marriage is a adventure enjoyed by only two adventurous people "...
It's basically dating a person who spent her life becoming everything SHE wants instead of anything YOU want or need.
Good luck with that.
I once met a smoking hot lawyer at a party in a group setting. She was 41. I was a 40 y.o. single Dad teaching karate and kickboxing full time. Sitting at a table with 8 people she said, " So Doug, are you interested in having more children?" We hadn't even had a private conversation at that point. When she was called out by the other woman at the table, she said she wanted to find out right away.
Damn bro... So how did it go.. got together with her?
@@seanlovi8798 they banged and lived happily ever after with 30 more children
I woulda said, depends on how easy my new girl throws me the pussy...and watch their reactions
Borderline psychotic question
that's funny. In Australia, women love the tradesmen, they even prefer them over office guys. I know some guys who are marketing or finance professionals and do well in their careers and they struggle, whereas plumbers and brick layers are getting the girls.. Can you please address this?
SO ON POINT! I just broke up with this chick who was an alcoholic/coke head, sleeping issues, competitive af (we worked at the same sales job and she was the only rep above me and it was constant unhealthy competition between us), kept mentioning her friends whose husbands would pay rent/buy them cars, treated her dog as a baby. Learned my lesson, good thing it only lasted 3 months. Thanks for the vid
You are SOOOO right...in an attempt by dear friends to set up a double date, I was so unfortunate as to meet the most self-important, non-justifiable list having, wannabe bossy--professional help needing freak ever (a corporate attorney). Everything turned out verbatim, oddly just as you mentioned on this video + others, except with one big difference...after she'd mention some list items on what she expected, I was thinking (what do I have to lose here) ok, well now here is my list starting with what you will be wearing when I come home every day and this is what you will be doing every morning when I wake up, etc. etc. ---her jaw dropped and I remember saying, hey---if we're being honest here, shouldn't every list be checked (double entendre) ??? Life is too short not to keep it light when things get too heavy... : ) Thanks for all you do...
Haha definitely got the "you're not masculine enough" one lol because I don't go to the bar to drink alcohol and go to sport watching games smh lol. Also was told I was "uncreative" based off of a google article search she found. Basically wasn't a good match because (1) I didn't feel visible by her and (2) we had different senses of life (she lived to work and I work to live)
Dated a PA, insufferable is the definition and this video well describes my experience! Thanks, Rich.
PA’s are strange characters in general.
Give me a NP any day if you want a genuine person.
As a son to a proffesional mom, im telling you that even her job over kids is a not so difficult desicion. My mom greatly loves me and i love her dearly. But i have seen her probably only on weekends really. dont remember 1 time she came home before 4 pm. occasionaly she came home at 6 and most days, 90% of the times it was between 8-9.
straight to bed btw. I had to learn to cook for myself cause she came home too tired to cook. Not everything was bad. infact these are the bad stuff. but i do pledge you to take that into considaration. especialy If you are looking to set up a family with healthy kids, and a good relationship with them overall. Money only solves money problem. Money cant solve childhood problems, and we all know how fucked up one can get by living an unhealthy childhood. kids need parents. period
LOVE YOU MOM btw
Avoid if you can. At least don’t date those in high level stressful corporate positions. Nurses, school teachers, non profit workers and others are ok. Just my opinion. Otherwise it’s like dating another dude that just has a different anatomy, everything revolves around her job. Doesn’t sound appealing to me. Also there’s the Hypergamy aspect too. If she’s making more or even the same 💵 as you she could end up monkey branching to someone that makes more eventually. That kinda competition isn’t attractive.
18:20 Exactly right Rich. I'm an educator in Florida and the number of special needs kids increases every year.
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"The list will be 237 points that the dude must have." Lol...gold, Rich...gold! 🤣
Great video! I've dated a narcissistic lawyer, an alcoholic bank director, and a tax collector with a screwed-up family. With a professional woman, you will meet other professional women- her friends and co-workers. Some of them are very attractive, you have to pretend not to see them. I go with my gut feeling- a beautiful woman who makes you feel cold is in "business" mode, it doesn't matter what she looks like.
For many, you’re an extension of them, like everything else in their life. It’s a lot like dating a narcissist, because it is.
I own my coastal home and car outright, have decent investments, a couple degrees and live an active lifestyle. Been single for near 5 years now. A while back I was on a 2nd date at a great seaside cafe with a seriously attractive professional woman, early 30’s. At one point, as I was talking, she interrupted and paid out at me (derogatory) on account of having the knife in my hand while talking. I said calmly, “Not cool. You never treat me that way.” She smiled with “Better get used to it.” I smiled, called the waiter, said we were done, and paid for the meal. I looked at her and said “Thank you. We will not be seeing each other again.” I left with her still at the table with a look of shock on her face. Life is good 😎🤙
That is EXACTLY how you deal with garbage!!
She couldn't stand that you corrected her... Yet she was the one who belittled you first. She is total poison. I have one of them at my workplace and the narcissistic toxicity is the worst I have experienced
Regarding self care. How do you imagine a healthy, fertile woman that sits crunched in a cubicle for 60-100 hours a week pulling all-nighters, binge boozing on the weekends...
Yeah I've never been able to stomach most of them for very long. Though I did date a psychologist once that stayed for a few years, then went crazy taking too many prescription meds to battle all her hypochondria... was good while it lasted...lol
They also seem to be more often than not, educated beyond their intellect and ready to argue about stupid shit that they should know..
Red flag chapter is very true, highly recommend the book!
Glad you enjoyed it.
I dated a woman in her master's for psych and had her Dr squared away. I can unequivocally say that she pushed me, shit-tested me, and ultimately betatized me to no end. She spun plates as we dated and shortly after I demanded monogamy, she dumped me.
I wish I never wasted my time but thank God I didn't have a family with her: I want my kids to have the solid, healthy family that I didn't. She had narcissistic tendencies and was diagnosed with anorexia which she frequently battled.
I am the generation that lived too early to figure all this out and was naive, but remember I got a cold shower already just after being married, me and my now ex-wife was discussing something about our economy, and I summed my own and her salary together, and she got extremely angry, because it was her money, not something I could calculate in any way, but my money/salary was for the family, after 25 years of marriage I left with almost nothing, so young men, never marry, it is a disaster for your happiness, society are just exploiting your sense of plight
Should we be alone forever?
Living alone is tolerable... but getting married to the wrong woman is a living hell.
Career women really dont care what beta chumps think. I am so glad I can make my oen living. You men want everything from a woman but what hell do you bring to the table.
TLDR: don't date professional women.
You're welcome
Beyond sex I’d personally avoid them.
Married to my wife for 22 years now. She’s a DR.and makes over $200,000 can. While I make $60,000 a year. We NEVER had a money fight . We are as happy as two people can be. I know my story is not that common. Keep telling young men the truth👍🏻
Love your content Rich. I'm 41 going on 42. Spinning plates staying single is the way to go
Till what age? Lol
My suggestion:
Date a woman without children which has a good job, high social skills, isn’t attached to ideology, sees life as experience, is aware of financial independence for both.
Never met a single woman of this kind which didn’t also had high social status.
For me it worked. And I considered me as a beta male.
Turned into a sigma male after my experience with woman of this kind.
But I needed lots of advice from others. And I was open for advice.
The only thing I noticed. These woman are usually easier to spot in the 30s and 40s.
@Markus You scored 100% on all points made. Yes, these women are easier to spot in the 30's, but by 40's they are pulling 60 hour weeks, so you won't spot them.
Excellent video Rich.
They always have to be right. Those dominating, confident traits won't be sexy when they're fat and 50.
At age 28, I met divorced 44yr old pro gal. She made offer: she needed to squeeze out buzzer-beater baby. Asked me if I would like to be "supplier." She said that my involvement in child's life was up to me. I politely declined her offer.
2nd SCENARIO: At age 32, was dating a pro gal in her mid20s. Seems like she was ALWAYS ON THE GO. She never really, truly relaxed. If it wasn't work, it was something else that she had to be DOING. I ended it after 6 months.
You didn’t wanna fuck a Ferrari?
With bonus, I had seven zeros 'on my tax form'. When someone I dated said, "Your medicine cabinet looks like Keith Richard's", I knew my career was taking a toll. Nothing for depression, but a senior at my firm turned me on to norotropics (for higher mental performance) and that led to the Soma, the Xanax, the dexedrine, in addition to the wine and expensive cocktails. I'm surprised I'm alive to write this post, but you are 100% correct on your content.
Wise man once said:
The more educated a women the more feminist like she will act
It would be interesting to see differences between different types of professions, careers, and income. I do know that divorce rates are MUCH lower for highly educated couples, but there is a difference between education like being a teacher, and being educated in business or law. Most of my male clients are in lower SES/education classes, and they have tons of problems with both dating and marriage (to non-professional women). It could also be regional, so professional women might be different in Boston vs. a more rural area.
Professional women in Boston are a disaster. I have dated a ton of them. They are all the same. Earn a good amount of income and are horrible at managing it. Have a bunch of debt, been ran through and have awful attitudes. Many are fat too
Great video and points. Lots of thoughts behind every action.
I simplify a lot of these steps by looking at their values steps. Things such as is she willing to follow me, does she want a family structure and is willing to support it, Am I important in her time management, does she make decisions with or without me?
Not too complicated but packed with implications. One thing we men have to wrap our heads around is that we all die alone. No matter wealth, position, or social status. We all die alone.
Once, she told me she could meet me only once a month. . . . and she used to live 3 -TINY- blocks away from me. . . . I went with it. . . It was a horrible experience, diminishing and frustrating. . If she tells you she is an accomplished professional and that a relationship is secondary to her, RUN, and DO NOT LOOK BACK!
It's not even a matter of should it's a matter of why would you bother when there's better choices? Get yourself a minimum wage chick. They're younger, prettier, more pleasant and agreeable and overall give you the proper dynamic for the relationship.
Minimum wage chick will take all your money in divorce. Lol. That's a big risk you're taking.
After a long term relationship with a published, nationally famous female who turned out to be a lifelong serial adulterer. Reflecting BACK on the relationship, our first date was working my schedule around her vehicle maintenance appointment. That set the theme for a decade of abuse
Just bailed on a girl who was doing the same stuff after one date, basically i had to conform to her schedule. Bad sign, pass.
My last 3 relationships involved professional/career driven women and they all failed for the same reasons. This is really eye opening and I’m definitely considering changing my dating standards.
A lot of times they sleep with their bosses and colleagues. I was working for a German automotive company before I changed career to be an Airline Pilot. With the female pilots and female Cabin crew, lets not even talk about infidelities. If you're dating one, sorry and good luck.
I have been married to a professional for 3 years. My wife really has a problem turning off her go! go! go! switch from day 1. I pointed this out to her last week because I got fed up and she was like - holy shit! I am sorry - and she cried and told she will try to change. But yeah, Rich is on point with this one.
Did she changed?
@@robrob9050 I do see an improvement. But, it's in her nature. So, I do need to remind her sometimes to switch off.
Another thing that Rich didn't delve into as deeply is the lopsided hypergamy. Personal anecdote: I'm in extremely good shape, have a lot of hobbies and do fun things, and make around 100K per year. Most women would consider me a catch, however whenever I've dated women who are successful business owners or professionals who are making 200K or more income and have their own house with luxurious furniture, etc, etc, ...they simply don't have the attraction because they're so much more successful and they can't look up to you.
Then she is garbage. A caring woman with high income can set aside her ego and appreciate your physique. But they are very rare
So do you date professional women??
Me: nah, I just pay them for their services
Great video, lots of excellent advice. Never dated a professional woman, but the vetting process is crucial. Wish I saw this back around 2002.
I dated a dual very nerdy Chemical Engineer PhD - she had absolutely no personality and had no hobbies at all. But she had the tightest 🐈 I’d ever put my hands on, the money was nice too.
Hahahahaha
There's only one thing you need to know about dating professional women: DO NOT DO IT.
Hmm....
I honestly think that you'll attract what you are...
If you act like an entitled prick towards a woman, they'll act the same way
What do you mean by an 'agreeable woman', like are you not going to have disagreements? That's a terrible advice in my opinion. You want a partner that can help you grow and inspire you as well. You have to have mutual respect especially if you want to keep a satisfactory long term relationship.
If you have a healthy way to communicate what you expect of each other then you could have a great relationship
Thank you for the feedback though. I consider myself a go getter and your typical professional woman (just coffee and some wine for drugs lol). So I want to make sure that my partner will not feel like he's making a terrible decision of being with me lol
@Marie Nakajima . I agree. U are what u attract (for the most part). The Law of Attraction is no joke. I also agree that a man should want a partner who inspires him and can facilitate his growth & vice versa. Agreeable woman doesn't necessarily mean the woman just bows down to her man & acquiesce to everything he says - soley cuz he is the man. A evolved & secured man would discuss important issues with his woman (his partner in crime) and they both come to a mutual decision that is the best for their household. On the contrary, there are many woman who are disagreeable or argumentative for the sake of argument. It's like a sport to them or a shit test. It's all ego and they need to feel they hav superior ideas than her mate. That really SUX!
So Marie, since we both believe in the Law of Attraction, what types of men are u attracting in your world, lately ? :)
@@TraderDT o yea totally! I agree that there are women who do victimize men to be able to work the system. I've met some... disgusting and toxic. Yet they're the same people that would call out toxic masculinity. Grinds my gears.
Haha I don't really know how to answer that. Recently I talk alot about politics and investments with a lot of the men I meet. I find that there's very few women who are interested in these kinds of topics. Anyway, I feel absolutely blessed to be now surrounded by people who have a similar mindset as I do.
@@TraderDT I should ask you the same, what kinds of women have you been attracting ?
@@marienakajima566 Sorry for the delay. Fair question. Likes u, I believes in the 'law of attraction'. As i have evolved over the years, my environment and the peeps around me, including lady friends have changed too. Most women whom I date that are pulled into my orbit are spiritual (not religious), very health & fitness conscious, very feminine, good with finances, good head on her shoulders, emotionally centered & balanced. Low drama. Adventurous, good energy & just plain fun as they strive to be the best versions of themselves.
Life is short on this earth school. Why waste time on peeps whom u are not in harmony with (male or female), who brings drama, conflict & negative energy. Whose got time for that nonsense?
Ain't worth it..........u agree Marie ? Or are u one of these women who need drama to get the endorphins pumping so u can feel alive...lol. Just kidding, :)
Every single point you made here is spot on about professional women and the challenges and benefits and disadvantages of dating them. Excellent, as a man in my 40s, 43, every single point was spot on.
So basically dating a guy.
I confirm what you say it's 100% true. I can say by experience that In London UK: the dating scene is populated by a lot of overworked professional women who are in a rush to tick the marriage and kids box out of the list. As an Italian I was surprised that some of them were not even able to prepare a basic meal and eat takeaway every day. It really takes time and effort to find the right partner.
This is mostly in line with my experience. One thing though, the ridiculous long hours thing is an American thing. American corporate culture is to keep staff at work as long as possible, and turn it into a lifestyle not a job. It's very toxic. I avoid overtime like the plague because I think over about 30 hours on the tools, I'm done, try as I might, my productivity is gone, and I'm mentally and physically burnt out. I am constantly encouraged to do overtime and I would enjoy the money, but I don't feel like it's a great deal for me or my employer. Short days are more productive, you tend to set goals and work harder to meet them. These long hours in many workplaces are a relic of the industrial revolution. The workplace has a lot to answer for in terms of modern social issues, and American workplace culture seems to be some of the most toxic in the developed world. You have to go to Asia to really see worse tbh.
Yes!
Dated one proff. chick...to bossy and completely dull outside of her work.
She probably didn't like your spelling. lol
@@email5023 ha-ha-ha...good one.
true statement