PS2 Controller (SCPH-10010), Unresponsive Buttons, is it fixable?
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- Having a go at fixing my silver PS2 controller, it's completely unresponsive except for the Analogue sticks.
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If you're buying OEM controllers for PS2, only buy A-Type. Made in Korea are the best, China made are decent as well. If there's an H on the back, regardless of the country of origin, just move along. It may work for a little while but it will soon fail. Most of the time the failure point on the H-Type is the PCB. The PCB (printed circuit board) is the flexible plastic circuitry that contacts the buttons. It's not an easy repair because you'll need a brand new PCB (that will probably fail again) and it will require soldering skills to reconnect to the PWB (printed wiring board).
why doesn't this comment have a lot of likes? this deserves to be at the top.
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@@LamarlovesJesus What sins? Did my input on PS2 controllers offend you that greatly?😆
@@ShineStreet Hey, thanks! I hope it helps a few people. I definitely wish I would have known earlier XD
Just bought one, not working. It's an H!
My controller has working start button, analog stick but all the other buttons are dead. First it had just R1 not working, I opened it, cleaned, put back together and it just got worse.
@Dᵣᵤₙₖ ᵣₑₙ same
Can we appreciate that more than 36,000 people spent upwards of 24 minutes each to learn nothing about fixing a PS2 controller :) That's not far off TWO years of wasted time.
That wasn't wasted time. Good tips here for general controller troubleshooting, even though I already tried most of those before watching lol. But this video also verified that it's not worth it to go any deeper than that :)
Thanks for this comment, it saved me 24 minutes. And 2 seconds.
😆 bet he thought, I've taken the time to make this, it's damn well going online.
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This is such a great video! It's been super helpful! I've been learning to use a multimeter and felt a little overwhelmed on getting started. I figured I'd start by testing continuity on my broken controllers. I had two PS2 controllers, bought used, go dead on me. Opened them both. The SCPH-10010 A was just filthy inside. A good clean got it working again. The other, a SCPH-10010 H, is spotless inside. I've got a sneaking suspicion it's the same issue but we'll see. Also hoping to find out what with wrong with my Xbox One controller too. Thanks for taking your time to make and post this!
Think the difference in sizes in the weights helps to shake the controller as its off balance. Nice vid Stacy really been enjoying them 👍
Yea, I guess that makes sense man. It's just one of those things you don't really think about. And cheers man, I'm enjoying making them a lot :D
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this vid was very fun to watch
Love how you let the weights Hang from the Memory Board , Luckily You Got to Probe Tho
Great man! Thanks for making effort to film this. I have similar black one, and only cross bottom control works😅
Main design flaw with practically alll variations of the the DualShock PS2 controllers is the tracer/contact membrane, the green part with all the contacts for the buttons on etc, they are the most common fault in these, most likely that’s what’s up
tl;dr: don't watch the video, buy a flex circuit for your model on ebay/ali if after cleaning the board, contacts and membranes it still doesn't work
I don't think this was a good video since it's straight up clickbait but when you get to it he clearly doesn't have any experience with dualshocks nor does he bother to troubleshoot the board. SCPH-10010 H models were infamous because they failed overtime, even without use unlike A ones which probably would work to this day, but usually it's just a problem of the flex circuit (even if it looks alright) which can be bought for literal cents and at most would require soldering the pins, and some don't even require you to. Like his, if your controller's joysticks work perfectly fine but buttons don't, you need to replace the flex. Buy some on aliexpres for 0.10, do yourself a favor.
Update after I repaired three dualshock 2 controllers recently, all H models, all with no "apparent fault reason", replaced all three flexes and all now work perfectly fine. 2 with SA1Q43 and 1 with SA1Q42 (43 needed trimming arount the triggers, worked perfectly fine though). This video is definitely the worst one you could watch to troubleshoot your controller.
@@ottamonk Any recommendations on good repair video to watch? Seems like mine are not working either
Hello, what is the paper trick you briefly mention in the video? could you please elaborate?
Valiant effort! I pulled out an old PS2 yesterday and found my second near new OE controller has dead directional pad and L1 L2 buttons.
So frustrating too when I opened it and it’s pristine inside and can’t diagnose what to fix.
This sounds wird, but i used a lead pencile, normal grey one, then "coolor" the conntact points. it works, lead is a good connductor so i guess that is what makes the difference.. (Rub it on where the buttons connect with the board..) on the connections points on the green board inside the controller..
@@tommycocacocke Thanks for the suggestion. Gave it a try today with high hopes. Coloured plenty of lead on the contacts for the L1, L2, and D Pad contacts, but alas, it didn't revive them. It's so strange that the hardly used controller has the problem. I found my other well worn in controller and all buttons work on it. Both have been kept in boxes in a cupboard away from heat and humidity. Will give up on this for now.
@@ChompyCycling then Amazon and buy new boards.. :/
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@@LamarlovesJesus how do you know that Jesus Christ died for your sins? How do you know that Jesus is the son of god or is God? So God wanted to wait a few thousand years and then sent his son to spread the new rules from god? Please don't tell me you think because the Bible says so, the Bible is the claim not the evidence.
I found ps2 in some boxes and the console itself was working really well but the controller did not work, only start button worked, any help?
Is the screw that holds down the circuit board in the inside the same type of screw that holds the shell of the controller together on the outside? I really can't get the inside one to budge and I'm worried about threading it
they arent the same the one that holds the circuit is smaller. its impossible to find any information about the size of the screws all i know is i need a phillips #00 to get them out easier. i was able to open most of the screws with a small flat head screw driver but probably damaged the screws in the process
I am currently baffled by this also, there are many types of ps2 pad where the membrane connector is different, some is just pressed on with a little sponge on the back of the pad, another then can be disconnected, and this one then which is permanently connected. I have found that this permanently connected one ALWAYS gives me an issue.
others have been resolved simply by replacing the membrane. IMO i think it is a membrane failure as other pads with this "all buttons on" symptom is resolved by replacing the membrane.
The fact sony have decided to make it so that these cannot be removed on these types of pad make me feel like they are just relying on the pad to fail over time so they would sell more pads and cannot be repaired easily with replacement membranes (cheap parts), only thing that makes sense to me.
Whenever a ps2 gets sold in to me with a bunch of pads, 9x out of 10 most of the pads arent working.
and you know what? sony have done gone down the membrane route again with ps5 controllers, had to fix one the other day with "all buttons not working" issue, sony have used the membrane pressed onto the board method, so if someone drops the pad that connection to the membrane loosens, making all of the buttons not work. It is just a matter of time before they fix this membrane in place permanently to the board so that it deteriorates over time just like these pads have
I have the same problem but all buttons work apart from square witch the system thinks the button is preesed but luckly it was sorted by cleening the pins from the plug
But the others don't d pad and L1 L2 and R2 don't responed at all
FOR ANYONE WHO IS TRYING TO FIX THIS PAD: If it has got H on it then that green foil needs to be replaced with its socket, and if its "A" then propably cleaning will do. If not then also new foil will make the job done :)
Can you replace the sticks of an A with the sticks of an H and viceversa? I have an A that's all beat to shit but it works, the H is PRISTINE, but three of the buttons do not, already cleaned it and don't know what else to do except just use the board of an A with everything else from the H.
What should I clean it with? Will ethyl alcohol work?
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@@LamarlovesJesus But can he repair PS2 broken controllers?
@@LamarlovesJesus
Damn this is sick on so many levels XD
I had my controller for 20 years and today I was at the last boss of a PS2 game... and the controller shocked me and quit working. Not cool.
Doesn't seem fixable from shocks? Unless you replace parts, and I have no idea where to even start on that.
Measure the resistance across the pads on the membrane they should be around 12k ohm but they are probably sitting around 20k ohm.
I have a ps2 controller that every button works except for the dpad up and left, the response does not apply to the console what so ever, is there a possible fix for this?
My controller works fine it's just that some games I can't use the joystick is the problem on my controller or the game?
If you have this issue try slightly loosening the connection between the controller and the PlayStation make sure it's in there but gently wiggle it and it might work, for some reason it worked for me when encountering this issue!
My start button will not work
You have to replace the 19-pin ribbon cable / contact foil as this is defective.
These foils are not repairable, they can only be replaced, after which the controller works again.
Yea, it's unfortunate. I think I'll just keep my eye out for another controller and swap the shells. Keep the rest of the parts for spares down the road.
@@stacyleith8629 Yeah, you're better off just replacing the film.. finding another PS2 controller that doesnt have a bad thumbstick will cost you way more in the end.
do you happen to know if the PS2 cable can be replaced with a standard ethernet CAT5 etc. cable ?
i actually went through the same troubleshooting process yesterday night and nothing, my controller acts absolutelly the same, analog work, all other dead...
kudos @Stacy Leith for the vid... it comes at least as confirmation that i did not miss something
@@oglinda8070 if the analog works but the face buttons and shoulders are dead then it's likely the plastic contact sheet that has something wrong with it.
Ulfrinn understood.... too bad
I tried opening up my PS2 controller to clean it and when I started to put it together the joysticks won't be in the middle they will tilt to the right
What instrument do you use to test if the controller works?
regular old "Multimeter" something to measure electric continuidty (if both points where you poke your probes in have an electrical connection), voltage ..., go from "i will buy a new one if i forgot it at home" to "oh holy shit, i'd have to sell my soul to buy that one"
My controller vibrates non stop when I try to use it. Is there any reason of this happening? Is it fixable?
if you can't fix it, at least you can desolder the motor that is stuck and play without vibration. Better than bin it I think
I have 3 controller with the same problem only the joysticks and the square button work. In aliexpress I found membranes for ps2 But I'm not sure if it works. Maybe it's time to try ps3 controls
all is cool what you are showing, one question, how come controller is working on some game and on the other once its dead... had a chance to plug in my old slim PS2 and came accross the problem that I can play some game and controller does work, when the other titles controller doesnt... what an annoying experience!
Some game uses analog signals and another digital. You can change mode by pressing analog button. Maybe that can be the answer
My L2 and R2 buttons have both stopped working I’ve taken the controller apart and it was mint inside I’ve cleaned it all and still nothing it’s so odd just gonna buy a new one
if i buy a new controller can use or like this too?
You can actually (probably temporarily) repair the contact foil by using any old graphite pencil. See this guy's video.
th-cam.com/video/An2KHgrm6cQ/w-d-xo.html
Doing what he does in his video will fix the controller if all buttons do not work, like yours in the video.
You have to make sure you scribble on a thick enough layer of graphite to the contact(s).
If you have a controller that only has one to some button(s) that are dead/unresponsive or very insensitive but other buttons work perfectly fine, you need to scribble graphite onto of the two vertical ridges that sit at the left and right edges of the contacts for the buttons. This will at least temporarily restore the button(s), but the graphite will probably wear off eventually after the silicone pad smushes against the contact when the button is pressed too many times. Which you will then have to re-apply the graphite.
The reason it works is because the graphite adds electrical resistance to the circuit.
If you have the older revision of PS2 controller with the contact foil being actually soldered onto the PCB, this is definitely better than trying to re-solder a new one on.
If you have the newer revision of PS2 controller with the contact foil that isn't soldered on (thus being easily removable) getting a new contact foil isn't so bad.
But, keep in mind that the contact area between the PCB and the contact foil can sometimes not be able to pressed down hard enough anymore because of a piece of foam that degrades over time. You can use a multitude of things like a thin layer of tape or something to restore enough pressure to be applied when the controller is re-assembled and the screws are torqued down.
Damn the analog sticks are what I need to know how to fix lol
My controller half of the part buttom working and the others are not
I have multipul ps2 duelshock controllers and ps3. As well as Wiimote and Switch JoyCons which are all broken/unresponsive/drift, I really dont want to part with them as I hope some of the are fixable at least. I just don't have a clue what I'm doing when it comes to repairs!
how to repair the trigger? help me
All my ps2 controllers stop working around the same time is a little suspicious
@@TrueBlueSVT I tested all my controllers on 3 different ps2s non of them work :(
H versions????
I think its the button pads they wear out when they are old not the rubber but the plastic contacts
So wait how comes certain ones are different on the inside? I have a 10010 version also and it has this little ribbon thing
nevermind mine was the same as in the video, thank God lol
I’m glad I have my PS one control the mother board is wood so those never give up on you
I have 2 or 3 mint looking PS2 controllers that I got at thrift stores in a year or two span, five or so years ago. None of them fully worked and each had different sets of buttons working. Kept them all this time in case I found a fix but it seems like the fix is super difficult based on the comments. Guess I'll just keep the shells in case I find a working one that is fairly dirty.
I'm only 9:31 in but I noticed in his test the D-Pad didn't work and the analog stick did and also the LED was on. Likely the "mode" LED indicating it's in analog mode. So that's why the D-Pad didn't work. I'm assuming someone else pointed that out. That doesn't explain why the buttons don't work however.
...nevermind
My analog stick don't work on some games not all of them tho should I just buy another controller that is different from what I have?
well i got a strange problem with mine (tried to get my old slim back online), the controller seems to be working half, triangle, circle, up and left seem to be broken, opened it up, checked everything, cleaned the important parts, nothingchanged. the membrane did look fine, and i didn't find any breaks (ok i got to go in again and check below the shoulder buttons
@Felipe Oliveira im currently not even knowing if my ps2 is fine, i'd really need someone to take a look at it from the inside, i mean i took appart some laptops already but i'd be too affraid of my old friend there
I have an unresponsive silver controller. I want to work on it but the screws are rusted
my ps1 >>>> one of my 2 analog stick not working ... how can i fix it ?
Please Help me I just got a PS2 game that I really wanted for so long and then my controller stopped working for some reason please help me!!!
Desolder the analog stick inside, they are about a couple of bucks to replace.
mine is just the X 😢the wird thing is that whn is connected, in the first second it works but then it stops ...
i beat a whole kh2 boss with my x button and my joy stick without lock on or camera moving
Which boss!? That's impressive 😂
I found roxas to be as challenging as xemnas.
Nice video. I have bought about 40 broken controllers recently and most of them are SCPH-10010 H controllers that probably have the exact same problem. Sticks working, several buttons/D-Pad dead. I have checked the comments and got some of these foils from Aliexpress. The number on it is SA1Q43-A. Are these the right ones? And how do I get the old foild off and put the new foil in? I guess I imagined it all to be a bit easier, but I can't just pull out the foil out of the connector on the board which did work with other ones (the A ones). At least it doesn't seem to work that way... can anybody help me? What else do I need to do? Any help would be much appreciated.
@SNeasy , these type of DS2s unfortunatelly don't have a zif/ribbon connector, for easy taking apart ... U need to desolder the old membrane from the board & install the new one, together with re-soldering the connector. I recently bought my 2nd PS2 Fat and the DS2 that came along has the same issues - analogues & D-Pad work, buttons do not. I couldn't find any visual prob, even after thorough inspection & cleaning of the internals, but i couldn't test the membrane with my multimeter either. The numbers - if help - are: KSA1Q40A (Board), SA1Q33A (Membrane). Good luck in your repairs & hope U will be able to fix some of those 40 DS2s ... Cheers
Mine has a missing pin, I’m gunna need to buy another one
you need to change PCB Ribbon Circuit Board SA1Q43A, that almost always works
Is the PS2 controller supposed to have a missing pin in the plug
Yes one should be missing
drive.google.com/file/d/1UMOdtNplcOe57YDJ7duaBM26Z15v9PN5
@@elytra1630 because I have a psone controller with the same pin missing
@@flintytheraccbold both missing one
original gray control 8 pin, black 9 pin, why don't i know so
What if the black and red wires break off?
just resolder them to the terminals
Same problem here... any idea ? Should I throw them ?
Change membrane, you can buy it on aliexpress. If you have the same controller SA2Q43-A membrane. But you also have to buy socket for the membrane.
@@kubabuksa How do you change it tho. I have this exact same controller in the video. My D-pad doesn't work. I see them super cheap online. But I can't even pull thid current one off. Is it soldered to the board? How is it attacked? Can't find anything online
@@Jagg753 try pulling harder... see if it's a zif connector
Open up a brand new PlayStation 2 while back I had saved for 5 years and unfortunately the console and the controller both don't work
For some reason, the buttons on PS2 controllers just stop working. Cleaning the contacts doesn't help, there's no problem with the cord or the flex circuit, they just die.
Here, we have "bulk trash pickup" twice a year where people throw out tons of stuff. Over the years, I've brought home a pile of PS2 controllers and 3-4 of them have had at least soem non-working buttons. I once found two steering wheels and both of them had buttons that didn't work.
When the buttons stop working, try cleaning the contacts. If that doesn't work, it's officially a parts donor. Use it to fix other controllers with other, minor problems.
is this an SCPH-10010 A, or SCPH-10010 H?
H
Yup it's an "H". The "A" doesn't have the ribbon connector, just pads that it rests on.
Here is the fix for this issue and the cause of it!: th-cam.com/video/wPe0hmeSV6k/w-d-xo.html
My select button on my ps1 controller isn’t working.
My controller doesn't turn on... the light doesn't turn on and the buttons do nothing
Same problem here.
I replaced the right analogue stick on my ps2 controller but the r3 button still does not work.
@Noob Tuber I replaced the whole thing, Did the whole soldering thing so shouldn't that have fixed the issue?
@Noob Tuber Ah! Well that is a problem beyond my current skill level if it can even be fixed. Ill just keep it as a part donor and for a shell swap assuming that the models are not as drastically different from their latter/earlier counterparts like the ps3 and ps4 controller models are.
I learned nothing from this. May have lost a brain cell.
6:26 what are you using to clean
isopropyl alcohol, 70% is good
get it from the drugstore
@@ComputerTechnic217 Get 90% - 98% if you can
@@Solar_Sounds He's right I should've said 70% works because I used 70% but no higher purity the better
isoproplyl alcohol 70%
A have three of the H series controller and it is all the same, not responsive button
Here is the fix! th-cam.com/video/wPe0hmeSV6k/w-d-xo.html
Tengo el mismo joystick
Yeah, there's no way I'm taking apart my controller-
Lmao exactly my words
Just do it it super easy and if it not working properly then you got nothing to lose
my controller already on has red light but its not working why
have you open it and cleaned the button contacts?
i have exact the same controller in silver color and the same problem , if anyone have a solution to fix that , i appreciate it. by the way thanks for making such good video.👏👏👏
Oh my PS2 controller The eight pin is gone is that normal or not
Because the eight pin is not conected to the chip, the eight pin is connected with number ten
Seems PS2 controllers just stop working after awhile if you play them or not..
its the connection point where the buttons connect 2 the board, this is a well known problem................
Should be around 11k resistance across any of the dpad or abxy buttons if you put your probes on each side of the pad. When they get around 17-18k it's time to replace the film.
Each pad button is a graphite resistor that gets bridged when the buttons flatten out on it. The start/select/analog buttons are the ones that are actually wide open, so since those don't work at all, you know it's not the resistors wearing out.
My guess is, you have a fractured trace in the film or in the ribbon where it's crimped into the connector on the board.
Replacement films are about $1 each. Haven't shopped the connectors yet, as I've only repaired the "A" models, which don't use the connector, not this "H" model (see the letter on the back placard by itself on the right)
Can you link the Aliexpress page for it , friend?
really kinda annoyed with things breaking and vanishing but thats how it goes I guess. cant keep stuff around and working forever
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ez assegai man i deeply feel you on that my dude its so annoying
yes agreed.
I had my ps2 stored in its box on my closet for a long time, when I took it out to play the controller wasn't working, just the analog light turns on but none of the buttons work. I haven't used the controller so it's not wear, and it it's not dirty cause it's been in the box. I'm pissed off tbh
@@Poppyfromtabg no
I think PS2 controllers gotta be the worst controller ever made in terms of longevity. The design with that green contact membrane is obviously terrible. Buttons just go dead for no reason even when they’re clean and nothing was done to cause damage.
Only my square and x work
can somebody please help me i have a ps2 dualshock 2 controller all buttons work but the r1 button seems to be a bit pushed in.when i play a game and press the r1 button i have to press a bit hard on it to make it work. If someone knows a solution to this problem please let me know i would deeply appreciate it thank you.
@@TrueBlueSVT hey i fixed it i opened it up took off the shoulder buttons then put them back now the r1 button works smooth.turns out the r1 button was simply out of its place
Yeah those little plungers can make the whole shoulder/trigger assembly super fiddly if they get out of whack in there. I had a trigger that seemed to be fully intact but it kept getting stuck in the case, swapped it with another spare, works great now. Who knows?
conclusion: not fixable.
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This video is a total waste of time. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that board. In fact there is almost never anything wrong with the board on DualShock 2 controllers. It's always the thin conductive circuit board that's absolute trash and needs to be replaced. Buy a new one or transfer it from a working controller and you're done.
Try to put the motherboard in the oven, I fixed my ps3 by doing that
People that put PS3s in ovens might as well join the PS3s in the oven
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so basically you have no idea how to fix controllers...... gotcha