I love how as soon as you really start getting into heavy music, you realize that post-hardcore is a testament to the capacity it has to be extremely pretty sounding.
Duh Duh WEH WEH - Underoath Our Drummer Got A New Snare - Beartooth Sleeping With Ambience - Sleeping With Sirens (or OM&M's first album) Breakdowns Can Still Be Pretty - Silverstein (listen to Shipwreck, Rescue and This Is How The Wind Shifts. They definitely have breakdowns.) Pierce The Sadness - Pierce The Veil The Girlfriend Song - ADTR Our bassist mixed the album - also Beartooth Count-Ur-Parts - Counterparts Dude, just put random leads - Dance Gavin Dance Yeah I know chord theory - literally every post-hardcore band ever
Band name : Sleeping With Sirens Warning: Only listen to their first 2 albums (With Ears to See and Eyes to Hear, Let's Cheer to This, bonus song Dying To Believe)
Band name : Sleeping With Sirens Warning: Only listen to their first 2 albums (With Ears to See and Eyes to Hear, Let's Cheer to This, bonus song Dying To Believe)
Bass is extremely important, there’s a reason modern music particularly pop has almost completely gotten rid of melodic instruments and replaced them with big boi bass
Adriel Lightvale bass is super important even if you can’t properly hear it to safe a life. Listen to The Trooper without bass and try not to cry at how empty everything sounds
I really disliked Sleeping with sirens but when I heard that ambient lead riff I gave them another chance and listened to them again. I still hate them, but your riff is pretty dope :)
Why didnt you like SWS? Not here to argue just curious because it seems a lot of people are like meh when it comes to them from what i saw and i loved their music and while their last few albums i see why theyre not as liked, the new song was praised and i dont get why. They had a metalcore sound but their lyrics seemed to be more emotional so idk.
Not to be that kind of guy but why "hate"? Did you have a bad relationship where your significant other was into SWS and it caused you emotional toll for every time you listen to it? I know someone who has that reason
@@jayvee4321 actually I dont know why I was that cocky 2 years ago, I dont hate them, they're just not my thing (their sound is nice but the attitude/lyrics/band-persona isn't my thing)
@@gengashaunt3322 I dont hate them, I was just cocky 2 years ago, I actually like their sound (instrumental and vocal-style) but their attitude/lyrics/band-persona is too emo and drama for me
One of my favorite stereotypes is what friends and I referred to as Of Mice & Men theory. Open note chug pattern played tightly Same pattern but let notes ring Same pattern on single string Same pattern on first fret In literally any order
Brady Bigbear exactly! A bassist’s job is to help lay down groundwork for a song, while also not getting in the way of the guitarist, or the vocalist. The job is similar for drums.
These riffs and parts are all actually pretty sweet, imo. Although I would have called this video "2010s post hardcore." I grew up with 2000s PH, like Poison The Well and The Bled
Haha nice one I love some of those riffs. And that's why I love the most post-hardcore from all core music genres, so much diversion and styles in this kind of music. I think there is even more in post-hardcore to find.
Is it weird that I love the "Dude just put random leads everywhere" as a whole? If that was a song dispite how distracting it can be for some people, I actually would like it
@@CletoFrost The chug chug and dissonance was basically what every scenecore MxC band strived for lol. The scene Metalcore bands took those elements from the likes of Norma Jean, Everytime I Die, Poison The Well, & Hopesfall.
I seriously love all of this. If you ever want to make a band out of this type of stuff, I can send you my singing. I’m really good at singing and I love Silverstein. Let’s go
David Bowie’s “The Man Who Sold the World” is a non-post-hardcore example of “our bassist mixed the album” (producer Tony Visconti’s Gibson EB-3 is by far the second loudest thing on it next to the vocals).
Sleeping with Ambience and the girlfriend song are my faves from this, i took the idea of "the girlfriend song" and did my own thing with writing metal in the major key
Man, ya phoned in the Counterparts section. They typically neither stay in 4/4 nor repeat one pattern for that long. Ya coulda definitely had some more fun with that one.
@BleeZard Yeah but this "second-wave" metalcore post-hardcore has like 0 similarities between their predecessor, except for like shouty vocals. Also, I'm pretty sure bands such as At The Drive In got a decent amount of attention.
I cringe at the fact ppl are so accustomed to referring to the post-hardcore scene with bands like Counterparts or Beartooth. My perception is molded by Fugazi, Quicksand and At the Drive-In. Does that make me an elitist?
A lot of metalcore bands get labeled post hardcore for some reason I have yet to figure out. Metalcore is such a vague sub genre that it really should have its own clearly defined sub genre/micro genre labels.... and I think that’s why people come up with incorrect labels to define specific styles within it regularly.
Yeah, like the first example reminded me stuff like early Norma Jean, Underoath, or some Poison The Well songs, but then the list went on and it just sounded like modern radio metalcore with a few exceptions
*Rawr xD*
Nik Nocturnal RAWR
RAWR XD
Do Slamming Brutal Death Metal/Slam Stereotypes next!
Cesar Beltran 050505 Yes. Look up the band Alone With R. Kelly lol
Great video as always🔥 it was funny bra
I love how as soon as you really start getting into heavy music, you realize that post-hardcore is a testament to the capacity it has to be extremely pretty sounding.
I like this
Well said
"sleeping with ambience" "pierce the sadness"
thank you, nik.
he also did "Pierce The Charts" in another vid
tsk nice
“Our bassist mixed the album” sounds like early beartooth 😂
This whole thing sounded like Beartooth.
@@drumchild90 not really
More like Bearbass, am i rite?
@@NikNocturnal ... get out.
@eagleeye128 love the Marshall profile pic
SING IT WITH ME BOIS! I HATE THIS TOOOOWWWWN...
IT'S SO WASHED UUUUP...
AND ALL MY FRIENDS DONT GIVE A FUUUUUCK
AND ALL MY FRIENDS DONT GIVE A
*FUUUUUUUUUU-*
THEY TELL ME THAT ITS JUST BAD LUCK, WHEN WILL I FIND WHERE I FIT IN? (2,3,4!!!)
@@xazien x plays octave chords x
I really vibe with sleeping with ambience
Real shit, that needs to be a full song
I love using ambient leads, super fun
@@NikNocturnal Reminded me of TDWP with roots above and braches below album. Great sound!
Agreed
Tyler Seiferlein Right
Duh Duh WEH WEH - Underoath
Our Drummer Got A New Snare - Beartooth
Sleeping With Ambience - Sleeping With Sirens (or OM&M's first album)
Breakdowns Can Still Be Pretty - Silverstein (listen to Shipwreck, Rescue and This Is How The Wind Shifts. They definitely have breakdowns.)
Pierce The Sadness - Pierce The Veil
The Girlfriend Song - ADTR
Our bassist mixed the album - also Beartooth
Count-Ur-Parts - Counterparts
Dude, just put random leads - Dance Gavin Dance
Yeah I know chord theory - literally every post-hardcore band ever
The random leads is Dance Gavin Dance
Duh Duh WEH WEH is also Norma Jean
With the Weh Weh's I felt more Attack Attack! then anything else tbh.
First one is underoath
Duh Duh WEH WEH - Attack Attack! - Party Foul
Bro “sleeping with ambience” is such a masterpiece, make it a full song please omfg 😅
The songs by sleeping with sirens
@@TrveVargVikernes do you know the name?
@@lorenzopagano4884 oh shit nvm
@@lorenzopagano4884 sorry i honestly thought it was a song by them
Band name : Sleeping With Sirens
Warning: Only listen to their first 2 albums (With Ears to See and Eyes to Hear, Let's Cheer to This, bonus song Dying To Believe)
13 years later and I'm still a sucker for the "sleeping with ambience" sound. Really a lot of these riffs
Band name : Sleeping With Sirens
Warning: Only listen to their first 2 albums (With Ears to See and Eyes to Hear, Let's Cheer to This, bonus song Dying To Believe)
Stereotypes aside, I love this genre so much I'd listen to this video as if it was just a regular song.
"Our bassist mixed the album" has to be my favorite. I do like to hear the bass, even if some would argue that it's pointless.
Its not, listen to New Abortion and youll hear the diff between guitar and bass tone
Adriel Lightvale Bro bass is one of the most important instrument in any genre of music
Bass is extremely important, there’s a reason modern music particularly pop has almost completely gotten rid of melodic instruments and replaced them with big boi bass
Adriel Lightvale bass is super important even if you can’t properly hear it to safe a life. Listen to The Trooper without bass and try not to cry at how empty everything sounds
But bass is like super necessary, if you want to have any sort of balance between frequencies
yeah, I need to "sleeping with ambience" full song. super chill
Farewell to the shady glade by of mice and men
@@Wussel_Restbrook thank you man.
above my head, by polaris, pretty good too tho
I really disliked Sleeping with sirens but when I heard that ambient lead riff I gave them another chance and listened to them again. I still hate them, but your riff is pretty dope :)
Osatia is IMO better than SWS thier ep “sky people” is like prog djent with post hardcore
Why didnt you like SWS? Not here to argue just curious because it seems a lot of people are like meh when it comes to them from what i saw and i loved their music and while their last few albums i see why theyre not as liked, the new song was praised and i dont get why. They had a metalcore sound but their lyrics seemed to be more emotional so idk.
Not to be that kind of guy but why "hate"? Did you have a bad relationship where your significant other was into SWS and it caused you emotional toll for every time you listen to it? I know someone who has that reason
@@jayvee4321 actually I dont know why I was that cocky 2 years ago, I dont hate them, they're just not my thing (their sound is nice but the attitude/lyrics/band-persona isn't my thing)
@@gengashaunt3322 I dont hate them, I was just cocky 2 years ago, I actually like their sound (instrumental and vocal-style) but their attitude/lyrics/band-persona is too emo and drama for me
These titles are absolute gold lmaoo “our bassist mixed our album” was a favourite of mine 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
Glad you enjoyed!
One of my favorite stereotypes is what friends and I referred to as Of Mice & Men theory.
Open note chug pattern played tightly
Same pattern but let notes ring
Same pattern on single string
Same pattern on first fret
In literally any order
Okay but “our bassist mixed the album” is awesome. Bass is a crucial part, despite what everyone says! Look at And Justice for All!
Brady Bigbear exactly! A bassist’s job is to help lay down groundwork for a song, while also not getting in the way of the guitarist, or the vocalist. The job is similar for drums.
nothing slaps more than fugazi in terms of bass i.e progenitors of the genre
SAINTZ - Dystopia
The bass just pops out and is so in sync
still doesn’t sound good when its louder than everything in the mix
I think y'all missed the joke there lol.
I love dark chord progressions! Finally found a genre that uses them a lot
This is like a reminder why I love post-hardcore
"Don't just put random leads everywhere"
those were genuinely distracting. Probably what you were actually going for with that.
Unless youre Dance Gavin Dance
;)
@@NikNocturnal good stuff :D it actually had me like "what the fuck" xD
@@AJ_Drums that's mathcore though^^
@@AJ_Drums exactly what I thought as soon as I heard it lol
As much as I've grown tired of hearing breakdowns like the one at 1:06, that guitar tone is fucking juicy.
please direct me towards all these breakdowns that tire you
These riffs and parts are all actually pretty sweet, imo. Although I would have called this video "2010s post hardcore." I grew up with 2000s PH, like Poison The Well and The Bled
Looking for 90s post hardcore like june of 44 or unwound
"Just put random leads everywhere." Oh, look at Will Swan.
@Zander Boettcher Never said anything about him being not good. I love Will Swan's playing.
@Zander Boettcher Right. Sorry about that. I was being too presumptuous. Rock on, Zander.
@@PlasticCyborg haha you're all good, it's hard to tell over the internet sometimes I dont blame you, rock on 🤘
I thought it was Ling Tosite Sigure lol
So does this mean we're getting a F.C.P.R.E.M.I.X. cover here soon, Nicholas?
:O
I really like “breakdowns can still be pretty”
the fact that andrew looks so much like jeremy mckinnon makes the intro 100 times better.
That intro is my new Alarm clock and ringtone.
I am sorry to hear that 🤣
Andrew Baena lmao
"Our bassist mixed the album"
As a bassist, I have been guilty of this kind of mixing.
Haha nice one I love some of those riffs. And that's why I love the most post-hardcore from all core music genres, so much diversion and styles in this kind of music. I think there is even more in post-hardcore to find.
Is it weird that I love the "Dude just put random leads everywhere" as a whole? If that was a song dispite how distracting it can be for some people, I actually would like it
That intro was LEGENDARY
Why does all of this sound identical to Of Mice And Men's first album, and Blessthefall's first 3 albums
;)
2 big genre drivers
"Because it's badass" is what you mean right?
The sleeping with ambiece with the matching breakdown afterwards. I dig it
I don’t remember any Drive Like Jehu sounding like this...
Definitely. Dinosaur Jr neither ! What's this ?
those sounded more like metalcore and stuff like that
however, the chug chug dissonance really sounded like fall of troy to me
@@CletoFrost oh yeah lol fair point (but fall of troy use standard or drop D and recently Eb standard lmao)
@@CletoFrost The chug chug and dissonance was basically what every scenecore MxC band strived for lol.
The scene Metalcore bands took those elements from the likes of Norma Jean, Everytime I Die, Poison The Well, & Hopesfall.
I like to re-listen to this video occasionally to get taken to another universe for 10 seconds. One where Pierce the Veil released more *good* music.
Watching this video, I discovered I listen to way more posthardcore than I realized
When you listen to "bassist mixed..." and "Count-Ur-Parts" as a unified progression, it sounds like something Hot Water Music would've written.
I love this video, we need the full part of "PIERCE THE SADNESS" please
right, tide me over to ptv5
Hey man, we have the same last name, that's ma boi right there
Thanks! Just listen to any Pierce The Veil album
@@elisecode2212 PTV5 still not here
I could imagine Shane Told singing to everything
gilbert dude lmao I was think of Silverstein the whole time
@@joshuagavaghan224 Same
gilbert RIGHT? Minus the new album :(
Yes honestly
Shibby120 their like 40 lol they’re allowed to change a little, watched them in concert 2 weeks ago, still the same energy
the "bassist mixed the album" is the best sounding part of the video.
“Dude, just put random leads everywhere”
Nik, do some protest the hero!!!
2:25 honestly was the best one imo
Wow our profiles match each other so well I thought I commented this for a second haha 🖤
The random leads one ended up sounding like this band called Napoleon more than DGD. They're actually pretty sick.
Sleeping with ambiance is actually so good though I want it on repeat
That Counterparts thing at 1:56 sounds super cool, love those 7 chords and stuff. Which song of theirs sounds a lot like this?
"Dude, just put random leads everywhere."
I've seen this ruin so many bands 😂
Ugh... you hit me so hard in the feels, man! I love post Hardcore
Same my friend
You guys put this out just as i started listening to La Dispute again...
The “That guy who put random leads everywhere” killed me because it’s so true 😂😂😂
The pain about these lovely snippets, is that I want to listen to songs that sound just like it. 😂
Ʌris HΞxx you can! Some of them are inspired by certain bands
I seriously love all of this. If you ever want to make a band out of this type of stuff, I can send you my singing. I’m really good at singing and I love Silverstein. Let’s go
0:51 Sleeping With Sirens - In Case of Emergency, Dial 411 (1,25) ;)
Too bad they didn't play that kind of style anymore as their former guitarist has left the band
You have summed up the reasons why I love post hardcore in a single video.
1:38 i died at the girlfriend song
So did I when Andrew showed me that one
"Breakdowns can still be pretty"
holy shit make a full song w it, sounds so good
This sounds more like metalcore than the post hardcore that I'm familiar with.
Same. Post-hardcore im familiar with is like Fugazi, Unwound, Slint
@BleeZard not really, it's more metalcore with post-hardcore vibes.
@BleeZard nah. You're just not familiar with bands before 2002
This is like Sleeping With Sirens and Pierce The Veil stuff, which is post hardcore
@@severancedenied Exactly, or even Into Another and Quicksand
My favorites
1) Breakdowns Can Still Be Pretty
2) Duh Duh Weh Weh
3) Sleeping With Ambience
4) Peirce The Sadness
Thought I was gonna hear something that sounded like At the Drive-In or Alexisonfire, actually heard a bunch of metalcore
I am quite amazed by this pop thing you call post-hardcore
Yeah, I think "Sleeping with Ambience," "The Girlfriend Song," and "COUNT-UR-PARTS," were my favorite
What song is the Count ur Parts portion? Ive become obessed with that melody now.
The ambient lead stuff is the only reason I listened to early SWS, tbh.
"0:34" - Metallica, 2002.
reminds me of Wake the dead by comeback kid
@@wavyjones96 or every hardcore punk song since the 80s. 😂
Track name ???
@@dodoplay9703 st anger
0:51 Little did Nik realize he wrote the bones to what would become Pain Remains
stereotypes or not but these sound hella sick!! ambience and breakdown ones are the real shit!
As a person who is obsessed with sleeping with sirens i NEED a full version of that "Sleeping With ambiance" part!!!
2:27 Dance Gavin Dance
;)
@@NikNocturnal your catharsis is beautiful
David Bowie’s “The Man Who Sold the World” is a non-post-hardcore example of “our bassist mixed the album” (producer Tony Visconti’s Gibson EB-3 is by far the second loudest thing on it next to the vocals).
Can you just make full songs for the "count ur parts riff" and "sleeping with ambience"....please
Baena for life. Dope stuff my dudes! 🤘🏻😎👌🏻
This is supposed to be the meme but it's so goddamn inspiring
Dude, I love post hardcore. Especially the old grimy stuff you find when you go down the Spotify rabbit hole
Im not gonna lie, the "duh duh weeh weeh" piece....I was into it lol.
loving the "our drummer got a new snare" and "breakdowns can still be pretty"
Who else grew up listening to post-hardcore (and still listens to it lol)?
These were so funny (my favorites were pierce the sadness, sleeping with ambience, and the girlfriend song)
You just told PTV's and SWS's whole Discography in one video.
Well everything except Gossip.
@@heyimjoshnicetomeetya honestly, I hate gossip
@@riotrat6628 You and me both, buddy.
1:11 that's definetly Stick Stickly
I can't stand pierce the sadness but I absolutely love breakdowns can still be pretty, random leads, and count-ur-parts.
That's more Metalcore to me than Post-Hardcore
Sleeping with Ambience and the girlfriend song are my faves from this, i took the idea of "the girlfriend song" and did my own thing with writing metal in the major key
I’m the "Dude, just put random leads everywhere" xd
I love the sleeping with ambience sound on all instruments together, thats my style of music
Post-Highschool me is triggered by all of this. Love it.
That pierce the veil though, I know 2 songs and I can tell it’s exactly that
Count ur parts 😂
After watching this video, I definitely know why I love Post-Hardcore.
1:20 "Pierce the sadness" HAHAHAHAHA....I'm so lonely 😢
The riff was pretty good though
1:47 i liked that bass tone
Well i like metalcore
Yeaaaah, almost all of these are still my style of rock and/or metal
I liked sleeping with ambience 🤷🏻♂️
What pedal did you use for it?
the real question is, what are the tabs
Our drummer got a new snare is the last Senses Fail album.
I was going more for The Ghost Inside haha
@@BaenaCarcosa Dude sick!!
I always liked those "Our Drummer Got A New Snare" riffs
All day erryday
Nik Nocturnal what the track name ?!?
Man, ya phoned in the Counterparts section. They typically neither stay in 4/4 nor repeat one pattern for that long. Ya coulda definitely had some more fun with that one.
My favorite metal sterotype: guys who make videos about metal stereotypes using Theory 1 terminology
the funny thing is that these all still ABSOLUTLELY BOP!
Oh I thought we'd be talking about Fugazi and Refused. Guess not.
BleeZard Way better though
@@severancedenied lol
yeah this is more metalcore affected shit. ptv is dope tho
@BleeZard Yeah but this "second-wave" metalcore post-hardcore has like 0 similarities between their predecessor, except for like shouty vocals. Also, I'm pretty sure bands such as At The Drive In got a decent amount of attention.
@@TurtleGamers1 At the Drive In was one of the first bands of the second wave, so I guess they were kinda "1.5 wave"
Quicksand, Helmet are the only post hardcore band I'd ever listen to.
This video got me right in the 2008 😭😭👌🏼
1:31 songs like that "top 7 things you never whatever the fuck is" song.
I like Pretty breakdowns
I don't know, kinda gives the song emotion, you know?
^^^
The "Duh Duh WEH WEH" is basically all of Someday Came Suddenly.
I cringe at the fact ppl are so accustomed to referring to the post-hardcore scene with bands like Counterparts or Beartooth. My perception is molded by Fugazi, Quicksand and At the Drive-In. Does that make me an elitist?
I agree. This was mostly metalcore to me. Sounded nothing like post hardcore
Yeah this is mostly metalcore. But I mean there's a lot of intersect between the two so I get it lol
A lot of metalcore bands get labeled post hardcore for some reason I have yet to figure out.
Metalcore is such a vague sub genre that it really should have its own clearly defined sub genre/micro genre labels.... and I think that’s why people come up with incorrect labels to define specific styles within it regularly.
Yeah, like the first example reminded me stuff like early Norma Jean, Underoath, or some Poison The Well songs, but then the list went on and it just sounded like modern radio metalcore with a few exceptions
No it just means you aren't 16 years old.