As a Shafi Sufi Wahabi over here whose very well informed about Ba Alawis, dont waste your time on them, they are just dancing goofies, long gone is the time of scholarship, their scholars such as Jeffrey/Jiffri are going as far as coming out and saying they will not teach their kids to memorise the Quran, complete dancing goofie traitors who waste the Ummahs time, may Allah guide them.
In Indonesia at the moment there are many discussions about the validity of the claim of descendance of the habaib. The main contributor of which are the sudden and rapid increase of people who claim to be habaib. How some of them have questionable behaviours are also a factor in raising doubts. Could you do a lecture on the validity of these claims of descendance? Thank you.
Masalahnya di Indonesia, mereka tidak mengkaji sejarah. Ba Alawi, keluarganya besar. Golongan Alawiyin yang menjaga nasab dan menyimpan data nasab. Yang menjadi permasalahan sekarang kerana yang berketurunan Wali Songo mahu menyambung silsilah dengan Ba Alawi. Rabitah Alawiyah pula tidak mahu mengakui golongan-golongan Raden ini sebagai Alawiyyin kerana data yang diterima tidak mencukupi. Akhirnya, mula lah orang-orang yang tidak di akui nasabnya oleh Rabitah Alawiyah mencipta fitnah. "Ya, jika mereka tidak mengakui kami Alawiyin, lebih baik kami musnahkan saja nasab Ba Alawi". Mungkin begitu cara fikir yang menentang Ba Alawi ini. Kami di Malaysia ini, punya ramai Ba Alawi juga dan mereka di akui oleh Rabitah Alawiyah. Sesama Ba Alawi memang akan tahu nasab masing-masing. Yang menjadi masalah yang mahu 'claim'. Tidak dapat 'claim' nasab, maka lebih baik kami musnahkan sahaja nasab Ba Alawi. Begitu buruk dan busuk hati-hati yang mahu 'claim' sampai sanggup mencarik nasab yang diakui oleh pelbagai ulama sejak zaman berzaman.
@@yojan9238If you are unaware of the issue, it's better to first ask the Indonesian people, who are more familiar with its origins. Chronology: A certain Habib told his congregation that Wali Songo had no descendants. In response, the descendants of Wali Songo reacted strongly, stating that the Habib's claim was incorrect and arrogant. They then presented documents and books as evidence proving that they are indeed legitimate descendants of Wali Songo, who are confirmed to be descendants of the Prophet Muhammad. It's important to note that Wali Songo (the Nine Saints) were nine individuals who spread Islam in Java. They are not Ba'alawi; they are true descendants of the Prophet Muhammad. They married local residents, and their descendants became leaders in various regions. They also fought against colonial rule. Their lineage was hidden because they were considered enemies by the colonizers. To this day, their lineage is officially recorded. In fact, a friend of mine is a 17th-generation descendant of one of the Wali Songo in Indonesia, and his lineage is officially documented. Remember, they are not Ba'alawi. The Ba'alawi came to Indonesia in the 1900s, after many Indonesians had already converted to Islam. Note that Islam first came to Indonesia in the Samudra Pasai Kingdom, and then it was spread by Wali Songo between the 1200s and 1400s. Fact: One Ba'alawi family took a DNA test, and the results showed that they are actually of Jewish descent. This was posted on social media and went viral. The ancestor of the Habib, Uthman bin Yahya, once prayed for the Dutch Queen on her birthday. Additionally, Uthman bin Yahya forbade the indigenous people from waging jihad against the colonizers, while the fighters were led by descendants of Wali Songo.
@@budidayaberuk6144 the Ba Alawi of Indonesia are legitimate descendants of the Prophet as attested by many indigenous Nusantaran ulama (KH Maimoen Zubair, KH Anwar Mansur, KH Nawawi Abdul Jalil, for example). The whole debacle surrounding this nasab problem started from envious people who are jealous of Ba Alawi influence among lay Muslims.
If you are interested in Umar bin hafeez then you should know Sheikh Aboobaker ahmed(Grand mufti of india).Please do make a video about Usthad and know his contribution to uplifting the Muslim community in India
Please brothers be careful what you say about what you don't know. My son spent 3+ years in Tarim. Shukr to Allah for allowing my son to have studied and spent time with Habib Umar and all the teachers. Let's respect each other, saying he is a Fraud is not nice. Take it back brother. Ask Allah for forgiveness
I’m actually thinking to go to Tarim as well to learn, what’s the best way to learn more about it? I wanted to know how much I should save up before going etc Thinking about doing the dowra in the summer to start with
Radiya allahu on mawalana Umar bin Hafiz. Can you do a story about the wali scholar sheikh Ali Jumaa, head of the shazili tariqa and former mufti general of Egypt?. I can connect you with one of his closest scholars student.
I really like Sh Shadee Almasry and been watching this channel for a few weeks. I dont know anything about the habibs but what is your thoughts on the videos of saying Habib Omar said he got a dua & ijaaza straight from the prophet pbuh?
@@MTarek88885 well i understand if you through high and low together, and i think it called trust not overzealous for the sahabah, they did question Rasulullah peace be upon him some times not blindly follow, even if some of them did overzealous i think Rasulullah already remind them he just messenger, did those pious dude tell they follower they just a da'i not a rasul or not a nabi?
Every 40 houses is supposed to have mosque and every 40 mosques is supposed to have a jami mosque. The people who cannot reach the jami mosque may form their own jummah. That's what we learned years ago in class. Please confirm with the faqi you take classes with.
These extreme Sufis just love to focus on the outward trying to look pious with their garments - where in reality they pay no attention to Tawhid, attribute all sorts of powers to their saints and sages and busy calling upon other than Allah for help (of course with the caveat of bi'idhnillah - with the permission of Allah)
And unfortunately some of of his male followers in the US exploit women, especially convert women. They seem to be interested in the heart but really go around breaking hearts. There's just story after story about these dudes, in California especially, who take advantage of women for their sexual needs, but aren't sincere.
How can someone, who believes in radical omnipotence, meaning Allaah is the sole actor in the world, as per the Ash'ari Creed, believe or give power to any human being? Even fire doesn't burn without Allaah causing this quality in it, then how can these people not believe in what is the epitome of tawheed? You are gravely mistaken, this is slander and I worry for your Aakhirah. The people of rational tawheed are the folk of Kalam, and the people of experiential tawheed are these people. Fear Allaah and seek Knowledge.
@@ishtiaq968 happening a lot here in Cape Town. They prefer the Sufi stories of “my sheikh” did this and that and focus less on authentic stories from the hadith and the Quran. Like an exclusive “club” whereas if you not a part of it, you seem like an inferior Muslim imo
AsSalaamu, Alykum WarahmatulLaahi Wabarakaatuh! I am confused with this stuff in the below short video (if it is true as being presented) th-cam.com/video/LJSVoyDn_8c/w-d-xo.html I have read 2 books of Imam AlHaddad(RH) but they were on manners and were beautiful, I would never expect the deviation from the real. In the video, they say "Our Beloved Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) gave them some new dua" that was not previously in the Shareeyah. It didn't get down the throat. "I am just a seeker of truth & like the 4 Madhabs but try to stay away from modern day Salafism and extremism" "But this type of Sufism also doesn't seem to be right"? Share your opinions and suggestions please, so that we are saved InshaAllah on the Day of Judgement. Jazaak Allahu Kher
The Fall of the Ba'alawi Clan in 2024: Their reputation has crumbled due to their arrogance. They claimed that anyone who opposes a Habib is equivalent to the Antichrist (Dajjal). They asserted that a Habib who commits adultery will still enter paradise. They stated that even a foolish Habib is better than ten native scholars. 😂😂😂 They are making money by selling religion
Thanks brother. I actually love the books of Imam Al-Haddad(RH) on Manners. But I found the practices of today's Ba, Alawi's deviating from the path (I watched few videos where it seems they are doing Shirk of sort and mentioning new Litanies based on dreams), I was shocked. Indeed the guidance is with ALLAH(SWT). And just for my guidance which I have been seeking for long, What is your opinion on Imam Al-Haddad brother? Jazaak Allahu kher
@@imran_rafiq_rather "I never think ill of others, whether they are committing shirk or not, because we can't see the intentions in someone's heart. I'm also not a follower of the Salafi Ibn Saud school of thought. As for the Ba'lawi, in my opinion, it's clear that they are not entirely good to follow, but with the note that not all Ba'lawi are bad. However, that's the situation now."
Whoever said like that to our fellow Muslims, what they said will return back to them. So who is the idolatrous people now who can't see the TRUTH because their hearts already tarnished by his own foul mouths. Pity you guys Wahhabi. Just Imagine Waking in the grave and not being Muslim because always do the Wird of accusing other Muslims as Kaafirun. Accusing fellow Muslims as kaafir is a grave sin. Don't follow Saudi Wahhabi Teachers, they are the bida'ah of this age.
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Keep doing these for different scholars shaykh, especially the great Ulama of Sham
Please do a full length lecture on the Habaib and the ba alawi descendants and tariqah
Who are babalawi?
@@tazboy1934 Ba'Alawi
As a Shafi Sufi Wahabi over here whose very well informed about Ba Alawis, dont waste your time on them, they are just dancing goofies, long gone is the time of scholarship, their scholars such as Jeffrey/Jiffri are going as far as coming out and saying they will not teach their kids to memorise the Quran, complete dancing goofie traitors who waste the Ummahs time, may Allah guide them.
@@tazboy1934
Descendants of علوي المهاجر the Descendant of the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم who live in Hadhramout.
@@JamaluddinAlMuqdishaawi prove your claim where did Habīb Āli say what you claim! Furthermore memorising isn’t the entire Qurān isn’t Fardh
جزاكم الله خيرا على هذا الفيديو الجميل عن احد الائمة الكبار في هذا الزمان سيدي العلامة الحبيب عمر بن حفيظ حفظه الله ❤❤❤
In Indonesia at the moment there are many discussions about the validity of the claim of descendance of the habaib. The main contributor of which are the sudden and rapid increase of people who claim to be habaib. How some of them have questionable behaviours are also a factor in raising doubts. Could you do a lecture on the validity of these claims of descendance? Thank you.
Stay away from these deceptive people and call upon Allah alone for help
Masalahnya di Indonesia, mereka tidak mengkaji sejarah. Ba Alawi, keluarganya besar. Golongan Alawiyin yang menjaga nasab dan menyimpan data nasab. Yang menjadi permasalahan sekarang kerana yang berketurunan Wali Songo mahu menyambung silsilah dengan Ba Alawi. Rabitah Alawiyah pula tidak mahu mengakui golongan-golongan Raden ini sebagai Alawiyyin kerana data yang diterima tidak mencukupi. Akhirnya, mula lah orang-orang yang tidak di akui nasabnya oleh Rabitah Alawiyah mencipta fitnah. "Ya, jika mereka tidak mengakui kami Alawiyin, lebih baik kami musnahkan saja nasab Ba Alawi". Mungkin begitu cara fikir yang menentang Ba Alawi ini. Kami di Malaysia ini, punya ramai Ba Alawi juga dan mereka di akui oleh Rabitah Alawiyah. Sesama Ba Alawi memang akan tahu nasab masing-masing. Yang menjadi masalah yang mahu 'claim'. Tidak dapat 'claim' nasab, maka lebih baik kami musnahkan sahaja nasab Ba Alawi. Begitu buruk dan busuk hati-hati yang mahu 'claim' sampai sanggup mencarik nasab yang diakui oleh pelbagai ulama sejak zaman berzaman.
@@ishtiaq968people Always Call for Allah oh Wahhabiyyun... The muqallid of Muhammad Abdul Wahhab.
@@yojan9238If you are unaware of the issue, it's better to first ask the Indonesian people, who are more familiar with its origins.
Chronology: A certain Habib told his congregation that Wali Songo had no descendants. In response, the descendants of Wali Songo reacted strongly, stating that the Habib's claim was incorrect and arrogant. They then presented documents and books as evidence proving that they are indeed legitimate descendants of Wali Songo, who are confirmed to be descendants of the Prophet Muhammad.
It's important to note that Wali Songo (the Nine Saints) were nine individuals who spread Islam in Java. They are not Ba'alawi; they are true descendants of the Prophet Muhammad. They married local residents, and their descendants became leaders in various regions. They also fought against colonial rule. Their lineage was hidden because they were considered enemies by the colonizers. To this day, their lineage is officially recorded. In fact, a friend of mine is a 17th-generation descendant of one of the Wali Songo in Indonesia, and his lineage is officially documented. Remember, they are not Ba'alawi.
The Ba'alawi came to Indonesia in the 1900s, after many Indonesians had already converted to Islam. Note that Islam first came to Indonesia in the Samudra Pasai Kingdom, and then it was spread by Wali Songo between the 1200s and 1400s.
Fact: One Ba'alawi family took a DNA test, and the results showed that they are actually of Jewish descent. This was posted on social media and went viral.
The ancestor of the Habib, Uthman bin Yahya, once prayed for the Dutch Queen on her birthday. Additionally, Uthman bin Yahya forbade the indigenous people from waging jihad against the colonizers, while the fighters were led by descendants of Wali Songo.
@@budidayaberuk6144 the Ba Alawi of Indonesia are legitimate descendants of the Prophet as attested by many indigenous Nusantaran ulama (KH Maimoen Zubair, KH Anwar Mansur, KH Nawawi Abdul Jalil, for example).
The whole debacle surrounding this nasab problem started from envious people who are jealous of Ba Alawi influence among lay Muslims.
Maa shaa Allah🌹🌹🌹
Habib Umar is carrying the flag of Islam for the Ummah
May Allah Azza Wajal allow me to meet Habib Umar at least once in my life aameen!
If you are interested in Umar bin hafeez then you should know Sheikh Aboobaker ahmed(Grand mufti of india).Please do make a video about Usthad and know his contribution to uplifting the Muslim community in India
Ooh! I know the answer. He's the mujjedid. May Allah preserve him.
Yes, definitely could be! Aameen.. among with all of us
Aamin!!! Bil Barakah Habib ﷺ 🌹
Ameen
اللهم صل على سيدنا محمد
Please brothers be careful what you say about what you don't know. My son spent 3+ years in Tarim. Shukr to Allah for allowing my son to have studied and spent time with Habib Umar and all the teachers. Let's respect each other, saying he is a Fraud is not nice. Take it back brother. Ask Allah for forgiveness
I’m actually thinking to go to Tarim as well to learn, what’s the best way to learn more about it? I wanted to know how much I should save up before going etc
Thinking about doing the dowra in the summer to start with
Radiya allahu on mawalana Umar bin Hafiz. Can you do a story about the wali scholar sheikh Ali Jumaa, head of the shazili tariqa and former mufti general of Egypt?. I can connect you with one of his closest scholars student.
Unfortunately he deviated a lot in the last months…
Sh. Ali Jumua that is .
I really like Sh Shadee Almasry and been watching this channel for a few weeks. I dont know anything about the habibs but what is your thoughts on the videos of saying Habib Omar said he got a dua & ijaaza straight from the prophet pbuh?
its bullshit come on .. just follow the Sunnah not some self grazing imam
Asalamualaikum warakhmatullahi wabarakatuhu, what book is this on your desk Akhi? I love to read.
Make a video about
Mufti e Azam Hind
Shaikh aboobacker Ahmed
Oh yeah great scholar that’d be a good video
Also shaykh Tahir ul qadri and shaykh taqi usmani
@@tazboy1934 that’s a bit controversial as one is a well known barelvi and the other is a well known Deobandi
@@NazaqatSadaqat Who's Deobandi there?
@@Selfimprovementjourney-s
Taqi usmani is Deobandi
And Dr tahir ul Qadri is Barelvi
Salam Shaykh, what book are you reading from?
Looks like it may be Peter Sanders book. He took pictures of many scholars.
❤
how to not overzealous to pious people?
@@ibrahimsaputra9150 say that to the sahaabah
@@MTarek88885 well i understand if you through high and low together, and i think it called trust not overzealous for the sahabah, they did question Rasulullah peace be upon him some times not blindly follow, even if some of them did overzealous i think Rasulullah already remind them he just messenger, did those pious dude tell they follower they just a da'i not a rasul or not a nabi?
How can you have just one jummah only when people live far away from each other (shafi) school
Every 40 houses is supposed to have mosque and every 40 mosques is supposed to have a jami mosque. The people who cannot reach the jami mosque may form their own jummah. That's what we learned years ago in class. Please confirm with the faqi you take classes with.
The rulings of Shafie, need to do discussion outside of the TH-cam comment section.
These extreme Sufis just love to focus on the outward trying to look pious with their garments - where in reality they pay no attention to Tawhid, attribute all sorts of powers to their saints and sages and busy calling upon other than Allah for help (of course with the caveat of bi'idhnillah - with the permission of Allah)
And unfortunately some of of his male followers in the US exploit women, especially convert women. They seem to be interested in the heart but really go around breaking hearts. There's just story after story about these dudes, in California especially, who take advantage of women for their sexual needs, but aren't sincere.
Such an extreme assumption
@@prana888 it is a bit maybe - but you should ask them these questions and see what they say - you'll be shocked
How can someone, who believes in radical omnipotence, meaning Allaah is the sole actor in the world, as per the Ash'ari Creed, believe or give power to any human being?
Even fire doesn't burn without Allaah causing this quality in it, then how can these people not believe in what is the epitome of tawheed?
You are gravely mistaken, this is slander and I worry for your Aakhirah. The people of rational tawheed are the folk of Kalam, and the people of experiential tawheed are these people.
Fear Allaah and seek Knowledge.
@@ishtiaq968 happening a lot here in Cape Town. They prefer the Sufi stories of “my sheikh” did this and that and focus less on authentic stories from the hadith and the Quran. Like an exclusive “club” whereas if you not a part of it, you seem like an inferior Muslim imo
AsSalaamu, Alykum WarahmatulLaahi Wabarakaatuh!
I am confused with this stuff in the below short video (if it is true as being presented)
th-cam.com/video/LJSVoyDn_8c/w-d-xo.html
I have read 2 books of Imam AlHaddad(RH) but they were on manners and were beautiful, I would never expect the deviation from the real.
In the video, they say "Our Beloved Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) gave them some new dua" that was not previously in the Shareeyah.
It didn't get down the throat.
"I am just a seeker of truth & like the 4 Madhabs but try to stay away from modern day Salafism and extremism"
"But this type of Sufism also doesn't seem to be right"?
Share your opinions and suggestions please, so that we are saved InshaAllah on the Day of Judgement.
Jazaak Allahu Kher
كل بدعة ضلالة وكل ضلالة في النار
The Fall of the Ba'alawi Clan in 2024: Their reputation has crumbled due to their arrogance.
They claimed that anyone who opposes a Habib is equivalent to the Antichrist (Dajjal).
They asserted that a Habib who commits adultery will still enter paradise.
They stated that even a foolish Habib is better than ten native scholars.
😂😂😂 They are making money by selling religion
Thanks brother.
I actually love the books of Imam Al-Haddad(RH) on Manners.
But I found the practices of today's Ba, Alawi's deviating from the path (I watched few videos where it seems they are doing Shirk of sort and mentioning new Litanies based on dreams), I was shocked.
Indeed the guidance is with ALLAH(SWT).
And just for my guidance which I have been seeking for long, What is your opinion on Imam Al-Haddad brother?
Jazaak Allahu kher
@@imran_rafiq_rather "I never think ill of others, whether they are committing shirk or not, because we can't see the intentions in someone's heart. I'm also not a follower of the Salafi Ibn Saud school of thought. As for the Ba'lawi, in my opinion, it's clear that they are not entirely good to follow, but with the note that not all Ba'lawi are bad. However, that's the situation now."
You can't claim all are like that. Most are very respectful and decent people.
IDOLATRY
Whoever said like that to our fellow Muslims, what they said will return back to them. So who is the idolatrous people now who can't see the TRUTH because their hearts already tarnished by his own foul mouths. Pity you guys Wahhabi. Just Imagine Waking in the grave and not being Muslim because always do the Wird of accusing other Muslims as Kaafirun. Accusing fellow Muslims as kaafir is a grave sin. Don't follow Saudi Wahhabi Teachers, they are the bida'ah of this age.
@@yojan9238 right back at u...shd hv taken ur own advice...