Cinnamon: Myth-Busting Ideas about Orchids & Cinnamon
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- The most common myth in the use of cinnamon for orchids: “Place cinnamon on your orchid roots. That helps them heal.” Right?
NO-ABSOLUTELY WRONG.
There is a lot of wrong advice about cinnamon on the internet that just makes me want to shiver-especially when it comes to applying cinnamon on orchids.
It seems like if you tell a lie once, it’s still a lie, but if you publish it on the internet, it miraculously becomes true. Cinnamon has become another one of these tales (just like watering with ice cubes) that has caused misinformation and has had a hand in the death of many orchids.
Cinnamon is not all bad for orchids. In fact, it has many positive properties.
How does cinnamon help my orchid? Cinnamon for orchids should be used only as a way to dry up open wounds in leaves, preventing bacteria and infections to enter the newly exposed area. Never use cinnamon on orchid roots, since the interaction with the velamen will cause their death due to severe dehydration. Always use cinnamon in a controlled manner and in small doses.
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I hope you start posting on TH-cam again. You and Rick L. are the most scientific and believable orchid growers.
Gosh, you are so smart! Love your videos!
You’re bad a** and so are your videos, keep up the great work and thank you for sharing all your knowledge 😂❤️🌱🥰
LOL... I'm not sure how to answer that compliment but thank you. ☺
When the proportions are right I would say: "She has a nice a**!
Hi thanks for this video.Its very informative for me and my orchids.
So interesting! Wondering if I could use this on a majesty palm when pruning
Hi Levzahav, I honestly don't know. I think it would work since the plant structure is almost the same, but I cannot tell you for sure.
Hi Amanda, I like your videos, very informative… the correct way to use cinnamon and alternatives; just watched another TH-camr suggest putting a spoonful in the pot on the trunk… then she put a good amount using a cotton ball on the healthy leaves…😮 So water can wash the cinnamon down the orchid into the pot and eventually get on the roots!!!🤦🏾♀️ killing your orchid!!! Thanks for the proper tutorial on how to use cinnamon on orchids.
Hi Cassandr, I'm glad the video helped. I've seen lots of people use cinnamon, and unfortuneately, they don't see the harm because it isn't present right away. Thank you so much for your comment. I appreciate it.
As always, I much appreciate and like your scientific details of explanation. We do need "facts" regarding cinnamon powder application rather than general information as "opinions"
Hi Quoc Viet Ha, Thanks for watching. I appreciate it.
Very informative!!! Question: What are your thoughts about using rosemary water on orchids?
Wow.. was just watching another of your videos after reading a response from you and.. bingo! I had just sprinked cinnamon in a cluster of wild orchids that I repotted only yesterday. I saw what looked like fungus (a white, woolly cluster) and looked it up and cinnamon was strongly recommended. I immediately took the plant to the rain-water tank and rinsed it off and used a tiny straw to scrape off the excess. One tiny leaf looks burnt but the roots look ok. I guess now I wait with bated breath..
Hi Petri, I'm so glad that video came I handy! :)
Thank you so much... really.
Hi Amanda, I bought a Phaleanopsis about three weeks ago (I have 11 now and 3 Dendrobiums about them another time in another vid.) and when I got it out of the cellophane it had several long aerial roots growing over the rim of the pot. One had a crushed end for about 4 centimeters. Usually I don't cut aerial roots but this one I cut off 5 centimeters and dipped the end a couple of times in a teaspoon with cinnamon for about 30 sec each time just to be sure the cinnamon stayed on. I just did see this vid about cinnamon and checked that aerial root. It looks and feels the same as the others.
Put it on the test for absorbing water from a tiny plastic cup (those you get in the hospital for taken your pills) and it soaked up the water immediately and turned dark green on the cutting point as well. Looked like it soaked up the water even faster than the other aerial roots that are not damaged.
I think you're only talking about the terrestrial roots concerning the cinnamon?
Hi Liam, Great question! Structurally they are the same, but being an aerial root, they are "tougher" because of lower humidity. The roots inside the potting medium will be more adapted to soaking up water quickly, and whatever is in that water. If cinnamon is poured over the potting medium or mixed in with the water, the roots inside the pot will absorb them faster/easier than the ones that are aerial.
@@Orchideria Ok, makes sense! Keep you updated about that aerial root.
Thank you so much for this video. Sometime ago, I had to cut a leaf on one of my dendrobiums, and I just left it - open cut wound and all. Actually, nothing "happened" to the leaf or the plant - it stayed healthy! Currently, one of the canes is sending out a spike. (YAY!!). BUT ... I will be more vigilant next time.
Got some more "rescued" epidendrums today - a couple of the leaves need to be cut, as they are kind of damaged (really ratty looking). Will be pulling out the cinnamon powder tomorrow while attempting "surgery" on some of the leaves.
In my neck of the woods, we only have one type of cinnamon - the type grown in the Caribbean, not sure if its cassia or ceylon, or another variety, but it is quite strong. It is used for both culinary and medicinal values.
Oh wow! You're going to have tons of Epidendrums. That's great news. I'm so glad the videos are useful. :)
@@Orchideria 5 mounted, 2 in soil, 1 in pebbles, bark and charcoal. The 5 mounted are in sphagnum moss (2 on tree barks, 2 on the backs of baskets, 1 on custom made "thingy" from driftwood). Will keep you updated.
Lyn, Those are going to be beautiful! I love the description, "custom made thingy". 😍 I found out I like my mounts better than the potted ones, but they have to be watered so much more. By the time your neighbor gets done "cleaning" her tree, you're going to be an Epidendrum expert!
There is a lot of videos on the use of cinnamon water for orchids with fungal diseases, since most of the cinnamon's anti fungal properties come from its disecating functions,
Does its water do anything good for the orchid? If it doesn't do anything does it harm the orchid? (Cuz cinnamon smelling medium will not be that bad if not harmful to the roots)
Thank you Amanda, I learn so much from you, love you video's. I am very keen on using cinnamon but also realise now that I do not always use it correctly.
Hi Terry, Thank you for the positive feedback! I appreciate it!
Very interesting. Thank you!
Hi Luis, Thank you.
What about coumarins are bad for plants?
Hi Amand, very intersting. Thank you so much for the information. You gave us a very useful info about the cinnamon. But what should we do if cinnamon is absotbef by roots? Do we have to sit back and watch the plant dying?
Hi Abdulhalim, If it was recent, as in a few hours, you can rinse the roots off with running water. But if it has been a day or two, then I'd just leave it alone. Cinnamon won't kill the entire root system, so that's the good part.
@@Orchideria thank you so much.
Instead of cinnamon, I use fungicide powder. What do you think about that?
Even better! A lot of viewers don't have acess to fungicide powder or its extremely expensive int heir part of rhe world, so they have to use whatever they have on hand. That's why I like to add multiple options.
@@Orchideria it's very affordable here 🤭. But got to be careful not to inhale it irritates the respiratory system. Put on a mask and gloves
So what should I do if some cinnamon falls on the roots of my orchid? Does washing it with water helps to remove it?
Thank you!!!!
Hi Estevan, Yes, you can wash the roots with running water. The quicker you rinse them, the less damage is done.
I won't buy books about orchid plant. Please help me.
I am so happy I found you, just subscribed. I made the mistake and applied cinnamon on the mushy roots that I cut… My poor orchid’s leaves are limp and soft, what can I do ?
Welcome Vicky, and thanks for subscribing. If you applied the cinnamon just yesterday or even today, you can run water over the roots to rinse if off. If it has been a few days, then there really isn't a remedy. The good news is that there probably won't be much more damage than has already been done, as in it won't get worse. The leaves will plump back up but this takes time (as in months). Patience is the biggest part in orchid care.
@@Orchideria Thanks for replying, can I water her more often ? Had a problem with rotted roots…I live in Houston Texas, and it’s humid though. Where are you located ?
Hi Vicky. I'm in Kansas. 😊 If you water more often the roots will rot, just like you said. An alternative would be to place the orchid in a place where it gets more humidity around the leaves. That way, the leaves will not lose that much water when the pores open to breathe.
@@Orchideria Thanks, that makes sense. I am a new orchid mom, still learning. Is it ok, to water 💦 once a week ?(I use distilled water).
Hi Vicky, I water once a week, but now that it's winter, I'm stretching these days out a little longer. It's still wet inside the pot if I water with just 7 day intervals. You have to test and see what your climate is like.
I appreciate you educating me on cinnamon not being good for roots but I’m left without an alternative to prevent bacteria entry. Should I cut the bad root and leave it exposed to self heal? How long is that safe? Thank you for your help.
Hi Frank, Thank you for commenting. Only cut the root where you leave a tiny part of the dead part, never cutting into live tissue. It's also best to wait a day before watering so there is time to heal if that live root was cut. If you want to use a product, I suggest Physan 20.
@@Orchideria But then there’s bacteria in a little of that part of the root; as for the reason to cut in the first place, to rid of bacteria. Won’t that end up traveling up towards the stem for not cutting into a little of the live part? Sorry if I’m not making sense. 😊
No need to apologize because I get your point. :) I had asked the same thing once. The small dead part that was left on the root won't hurt your orchid root because you'll be repotting in 2-3 years. What hurts is if you leave the long, bacteria-infected root, all covered in decaying material inside the pot for that period of time. In nature, the old roots will naturally die and fall off, but before they fall, they are in contact with the other roots. The difference is that they'll eventually fall off. So when you cut the majority of the dead root and leave just a tad bit of brown so that no live root was cut, it won't hurt the new roots.
@@Orchideria Ahh. That makes sense. Have I told you how appreciative I am that you are in my journey to orchid success? Blessings. 🙏🪴👍
Thank you!! 🙏
(First Time Orchid grower -Question): I had a vertical split near the base of a growing flower spike. I rubbed some cinnamon on it. The spike is still growing and is budding. But now, I'm wondering if this will cause a drying effect on this spike and the flowers. Is this an area/situation where cinnamon is ok? I applied it about a month ago, would it be better if I wiped off the cinnamon?
Hi Rosebud, If it has been a month, then the cinnamon has dried off by now. The effects aren't ongoing, as in more than a day or two, so your flower spike will be ok. Sometimes it's hard to judge whether cinnamon on a flower spike is beneficial in this case. I've only seen it used after you cut the spike off entirely and not to heal a split in a growing spike, but it won't hurt it too much if the split was small.
@@Orchideria - thanks for your reply. This Orchid should be blooming the first bud any day now. It started out as a gift last season, and now I can see how people get hooked on wanting to learn more about Orchids :)
Hi I have a question I saw a video on ed's orchids labeled rid of bugs he used bleach he dunked the plant in bleach and water for a few minutes to get rid of mealybugs have you ever heard of this? I have a 1 orchid that I hope I got rid of bugs I used alcohol but I wanted a second opinion if I see anymore - Kathleen
Hi Kathleen, I haven't heard of that specific method of dealing with mealybugs, but I've seen a few of Ed's Videos and I trust his methods. If it works for him, I'd give it a try. That's not how I treat mealybugs though. A few months back, I wrote an article about mealybugs and how I treat them which you can read here: orchideria.com/mealybugs-on-orchids/ Those are a few methods and ideas, but what works is consistency. Whatever method you use, it's not a one time application, and that is where most people give up.
Why is cinnamon prompted for crown root, did I just kill my orchid? Ugh!! 😩
Hi Mzn, I think a lot of information is just repeated without much thought. That's how it gets repeated so many times, even being false information. I can't tell you how many "articles" I've read saying to use cinnamon on roots, and I was horrified. Let's hope the crown of your orchid will be strong enough to fight back. *fingers crossed
mzn y what kind of an orchid are we talkin about? If a phalaenopsis I think I would do the same as I suggested for rot in my other comment. And that is if there's enough stem behind the crown rot cut the top off down into healthy stem apply the cinnamon on the healthy wound. Take care of what is left of the plant and hope and pray for a kakie. The thinking is that's not there cannot progress. Even if the cinnamon does manage to stop the rot and I guess it might but it might keep going until the whole plant is destroyed but what is already destroyed is destroyed so if the crown is destroyed you're still hoping for a kakie. Whatever you decide I hope the plant survives.