I bought an Edgebander, How does it work?! Felder G320
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- So I always keep a eye on auction sites for machinery that would sit nicely in my workshop, I saw this compact edge bander pop up... at a price I couldn't resist so I got it back to the workshop and learnt all about edgebanders. Having never even used one, it's safe to say I have learnt a lot. I hope you have learnt something too. There is some cool inside the machine footage later in the video too and a sneak peek at another machine I have recently acquired!!
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As an edgebander mechanic, I really appreciate your thorough explanation of everything. You explained everything perfectly. Great education for those who don't have the experience. Nice littler machine you have there. Thanks for sharing!
Felder are so helpful with everything.
I brought a new panel saw and the installation engineer was so switched on he helped me with other gear in the workshop once he finished getting the saw calibrated.
Pleased to hear Roger! I want a panel saw but dont have room! Pulls sad face
Thanks for taking the time to explain the function of the components
No worries Alan
Cool video. Spared me a lot of time. Just got a second hand FELDER G360 made in 2016, barely been used and it's so clean. I can't wait to finish the whole setup and start the shop. Thanks for the tutorial! I appreciate it!
No worries and enjoy your new machine
Nice addition to the shop, Ollie ... I'm sure it'll get a bit of use. :)
Cheers Dave, not sure itll be staying long, i havent really got room for it, especially with the wide belt in there now
After working with a edgebander for about 6 months now I can tell it's amazing what they are able to do material from .5 mil to 3mm with bevels including veneer. But damn are they kinda picky and very loud you'll want earplugs for when you're changing rolls on that sucker. Then again the one I work with is about 20 feet long. But yeah easily one of the coolest machines in the shop.
Yes very picky, but they can earn some money! Probably why they get upgraded a lot!
wow. thanks for the slo mo at the end.
No worries troy. Thanks
Better move that wide belt sander away from the wall Oliver 😂👍🏻
AWESOME piece of kit! I’ve got the SCM sandya 300.
Hehe, its the only place i could squeeze it in. Ill have to lose some weight to be able to use it and squueze in behind it!
Ouhh Nice, the 300 looks to be a lot posher than this one!!! haha this is my entry into wide belts, never even used one before!
@@BradshawJoinery same mate! I had no clue! Sat in workshop for a year! Until I got round to power and air for it, now it’s indispensable!
My thicknesser is shit, always nicks in blades 5 mins after changing! Sander cleans everything up!
Just bought the festool belt sander you told me about, still figuring it out 👍🏻
nice one ollie,hope to see this bad boy in action on one of your builds .prediction from the bald one lol wont be long till you want the bigger machine cheers bud stay safe
Haha, cheers matey, we always want bigger eh!!
interesting video as always mate. on the air compressor note might be worth sorting out the air leak and if its a long air line run reduce it as much as you can because you will get a pressure drop over a long run
Cheers ross, Its a small leak inside the machine actually, yeah, there is about 3psi drop, we have a decent 1" galvanised airline around all the workshops so not a massive drop. needs a teeny bit more top end pressure
Really enjoyed the video Oliver. Always amazes me how all the processes are synchronised and it looks like a great machine for my size of workshop. Glad you had good service from Felder as they are coming to me to deliver and commission a new RL200 dust extraction system, FB510 Bandsaw and a F700z Spindle moulder in the next 2-3 weeks. Never enough room in the workshop eh?. All the best Adrian :-)
Thanks Adrian, I was surprised how small it was, i guess the trouble with these is you need access to the back of them as well as room to pass the panels through. Wow, thats a nice delivery to recieve! Hope you get on well with them!!
@@BradshawJoinery Hi Oliver, I was thinking about the need to access the back as well as the front but still a very nice compact machine.. Cheers for the good wishes re: my delivery and will keep you posted. Hope you have plenty of work on and keep posting the vidoe's. I enjoy them as they are in depth with plenty of details.. Cheers Adrian
I got an F700z with power feeder earlier this year. I think you'll really like it :)
@@Psychlist1972 Hi Pete, Thanks for the message. I've now got the keys to my new workshop and should have the lectrics done in the next couple of weeks so I can then get the machines delivered. Exciting times and I currently have an old 1980's Felder spindle moulder which is on it's last legs.. All the best Adrian.
Interesting to see your explanation of how an edgebander works - always thought they looked ridiculously complicated for what appears to be relatively simple process, but you've justified their complexity in this video. Nice one. However, I really would never wish to own one - that would mean I'm using lots of panel materials, which I bloody hate. (I'd probably have more fun playing with the workings of it)
Cheers Otis, Ive had alot of fun tinkering with is and ive now sold it on, I dont have the space to keep it and like you im mainly solid timber!!!
Reckon i'll go and buy an iron..
Nice find Ollie - I’m always nervous buying machines second hand you seem to have done well- any tips how to avoid the duds ! I’ve been looking at wide belt sanders in particular so looking forward to that one when you get a chance 👍
Erm, i guess to an extent, its a price game, find a very smart looking model with history and a reputable home its going to be more money, if its cheap enough and you have the abilities to tinker with a machine to get it right then that is an option too. The wide belt needed a fair bit of work to get running right tbh, wasnt straight forward.
I tend to try and buy stuff at the right money when they come up, rather than set my heart on getting a machine and paying whatever the price is at the time.
Secondhand wide sanders can be a big risk. If the mat or main roller are damaged , you are in big trouble.
On the edge bander we have pressure rollers are slightly canted so that it is nor necessary to apply side ways pressure when feeding the work piece through.
How fine is the finish on the top and bottom edges. Can you feel any slight protrusion as you run a finger across it. Do you feel it might be improved with a light sanding ?
Hey paul, i think that is the case, i dont think it needs the extra pressure, i was having issues feeding the solid timber edging, but found out it was the infeed of the edging rather than the glueing side that was at fault. You can set it to what you want tbh, its very fine adjustment, if you were sanding anyway i would probably leave ever so slightly proud, and the sander would bring flush rather than trim it slightly below.
Nice video. Have you tried it edgebanding the short ends (such as for a drawer face)?
yes and no, there is a limit to what it will feed and actually attach to a panel in terms of edging length, i found to do a short panel i had to trim the edging to the minuimum length it would feed at and turn the end trimming and guillotine off. its either that or do drawer ends before ripping down i guess. im not too experienced with it
And you call that compact, its bigger than my jointer. What would you call the Festool edge bander ?
haha yeah its teeny compared to some of the edgebanders ive seen tbh. The festool, is a portable machine
Hi Oli, When you say auction sites, do you just mean Ebay? Iv got a few bargains off gumtree recently.
No I mean, insolvency/clearance style auctions 👍
Price please
Where u buying your edge band i just bought machine but hard to find pvc edge band araoun help pls
Hi, how was your experience with the machine? Is it a solid machine? Does it give good quality? I am about to buy a G330, I want to know if felder edgebanders are reliable vs CEHISA. Thanks
Hi, I didn't have it very long tbh, I don't do this type of work. It was ok, id look for one with a rotary end mill and not a guillotine I think though.
@@BradshawJoinery Gracias!
The band tape adds to panel size?
It doesnt rout out material for tape tickness?
NO, for that you will need an edgebander with premilling attachment
@@BradshawJoinery its difficult like this because you need do deduce tape tickness when doing plans.
Yes, but if cutting to exact size and no pre milling you'll need specialist saw to get 2x clean edges
Здравствуйте, у меня есть такой же станок, но он плохо отрезает торцы кромки, ножи острые, это точно. Думаю, как с этим справиться. Подскажите, пожалуйста, может нашли инструкции по наладке.
Это я про ножи на гильотине.
Да, станок уже был в работе, но не у меня...( Но в работе был года три, наверное эксплуатировали его не думая, что делали...
Hi does it leave them long or rough cut? You can alter the cut by adjustinf the pressure valves on the airline. (Very small amout at a time) Nees 80PSI air pressure to work properly
@@BradshawJoinery Спасибо за ответ! Давление 7,5 атмосфер, как рекомендовал настройщик и представитель компании. Главное, что мы отрегулировали это силу нажатия роликов. Как я увидел, на 6:44, как Вы с таким усилием ролик оттягиваете, я попробовал на нашем станке - мне пришлось гораздо сильнее нажать!)) Ослабили натяг и всё стало гораздо лучше! Там ещё ножи немного тупые, думаем, что можно их перевернуть.
Но, Спасибо большое за ваше видео, оно действительно помогло!!!
Да и спасибо технологиям, которые переводят текст и речь!
Ну и с Наступающим Новым Годом Вас!!!
Let me know when you want to sell it
I did put it on market place and a guy is very interested already!
Why are you hand holding such a small pieces. Are the conveyors not good enough for it.
Just to keep a bit of resistance on the piece helps with the end milling guillotine.
I live in Israel from the UK, I worked in a furniture factory for a few years they call that machine here a ( cunt ) machine LOL thats the word in hebrew edge .
Hahaaaa thanks for that pat. That one will stick in the memory 🤣🤣🤣
How do u reset machine
Not completely sure tbh! I assume remove power for a certain time.
Hello, I am edgebander glue manufacturer, can I cooperate with you?
Hi, Unfortunately i dont have one anymore
Another tool for commercial cabinet builders, not old school construction. Stay away from this kind of stuff.
I sold it pretty much straight away, It was only an investment tbh, cam up cheap and thought I could get it working and make some money 👍
@@BradshawJoinery Great. Glad you made some money on it.
Time is money brethren. You can use the old-fashioned steps on private projects....