[81] Kwikset UltraMax "Exceeds Maximum Security" (Pick and Gut)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- This is not a horrible lock. To the contrary, its pick resistance is better than most residential locks sold on the US market (which isn't saying much). What I take issue with is the "Exceeds Maximum Security" marketing nonsense. Putting aside the metaphysical question of whether that's even possible, consumers reading this packaging would reasonably believe that this lock provides excellent pick resistance. Not so. While it is better than most (particularly, most other Kwiksets), it is still child's play for an experienced picker to defeat this lock.
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When LPL had more trouble adjusting his camera than he did with picking the lock.
Someone get the Camera Adjusting Lawyer.
Not sure if we need a box opening lawyer also
@@jimmyobvious1651 LOL!!
I just raised you likes to a satanic level. You're welcome.
Maybe the people manufacturing the camera stand should start making locks?
Honestly, the most disheartening part of this is hearing the anger/disappointment in LPL's voice.
He's since lost all hope for any and all locks
The ennui! So sad.
It's a perversion and disrespect to his craft, I get it.
It must be depressing
BECAUSE he can't lock his wife out the ice cream!!!
Lock: "Oh boy, someone finally bought me, I can't wait for my first day of work! I wonder what color my door will be..."
LPL: "This is the lockpicking lawyer, and today we are going to humiliate and gut this lock"
Lol!!! I can't stop laughing.
Lock: Jokes on you, that's my fetish.
how delightfully horrible :)
what have you done! now i'm sorry for this lock. it's not it's fault it is made not as secure as packaging says :(
Rule 34 strikes again
Judge: “You are going to a Maximum Security Prison!”
LPL: ”Heh heh”
Judge: You kept getting out of maximum security, this prison exceeds maximum security. Enjoy your stay
LPL:...
Judge: Where did he go?!
Vampyratus he did it again!
With handcuffed😈
Michael Scofield: Now this is a an avengers level threat
LPL: Now this is what I don't like about calling prison "Maximum Security"
i'm not even in to locks or lock picking but this channel is so fascinating.
Thanks. 👍
I'm not either, but I sure am now.
The Puppeteer 777 LOL! That’s how I felt but it might change:
A couple weeks ago I watched his video about adding security to a common KwikSet lock. In the video he talked about moving into a new place that had these KwikSet locks. Similarly, I just moved a week ago and someone stupidly installed the front door deadbolt with a keyhole on both sides and no way to lock/unlock from the inside. If I am separated from my keys by a wall of fire then I literally have to throw myself through the window to get out.
Obviously, that’s a huge safety concern so I’m going to have to do something about it. What do you know? KwikSet.
Sounds like you're really keyed in.
It's satisfying to watch
Him: picks every lock in existence in less than a minute
Also him: it’s not as easy as I thought to adjust this camera angle.
Perhaps he should fit a lock to his camera mount? Might make it easier
That was funny. It took longer for him to adjust the camera angle than pick the lock.
It took him longer to open the box it came in than to pick the lock inside the box
@@markgerberick2857 clearly it's better to secure your house with a box than with a lock
The packaging was Max security, not the lock. Took longer to get the lock out than to get it picked. And since the packaging says Max security and the lock doesn't, it's not really faulty advertising
Edit: wow, came back to this video two years after commenting this originally and ive gotta say im surprised it got this many likes. But I'm even more surprised to see how many idiots didnt get the joke c:
OMG ROFLOL You're so right!
Stranger... you win.
This guy markets
Great marketing genius.
When it comes to advertising the company is representing the product that inlays within the package if you judge a mouse on it's ability to fly then you question your own intelligence... But who am I too judge you're already winning with people who agree with your pointless comment.
"Okay, so maximum security lasts about 20 seconds."
**exhales vehemently**
You can almost feel the contempt.
maximum security is so laughable!
My gf go two of those locks, and the law suit went something like this:
"Your honor, he came inside me faster than the cops! I had two doors secured with "Kwikset UltraMax", please lock him up he's a danger to society"
Kwikset is definitely in hot waters.
@@svampebob007 "...he came inside me faster than the cops!"
I hope that was a typo... o.0
@@Ichorslick99 haha yeah it was a typo, it was supposed to be "My gf *got two of those locks".
whelp, guess my d**k is maximum security then :D
svampebob007 No lol, the section “Your honour, he came inside me faster than the cops!” Is the one in question here, not the one word in the opening. It is uh, how should I say, suggestive O_o
Never seen LPL get so aggressive when dismantling a lock. That's passion for what you do
Nice:
- 19 seconds to open the box
- 26 seconds to pick the lock
lol. A little more tape and the box would be more secure.
A little tape over the keyhole would make the lock more secure.
And that was with him doing the commentary - if he actually tried to be fast, i bet he could do the lock faster than the box.
@@lockpickinglawyer A little more tape and the box itself also "Exceeds Maximum Security."
Um, no, it was 26 seconds for both.
The packaging was more secure than the lock.
Is the package not what “exceeds maximum security” was referencing?
& LPL still didn't even need his Scissors...
The packaging is about the only place where any of the locks have a chance against LPL :)))
Except that you can't open the lock with fire.
@@dazzlemasseur depends ;3
Love your video’s. As a police officer for the past 35 years I have come to the conclusion that a pick proof lock doesn’t stop a home burglar since they kick the door in 60% of the time anyway. Getting in through windows accounts for the rest.
Hence why steel plated doors are common on the outside of large buildings.
This is honestly the most disappointed/angry I've heard of LPL's voice...
He take these locks serious. He is the lock picking lawyer. He represents the locks
Like a pissed off mr Roger's
And like sad or depressed or something
@@johnace1707 This masterful pun went completely unnoticed for 5 months until now. Well done, stranger!
This is 5 years old u dickhead
1:08 I love how their image of lockpicking is someone gripping a pick as if it were a dagger, and aggressively thrusting it into the keyway.
Really provides some dramatic imagery to their term "picking attacks"
They could have been referencing a wave rake... but where's the turning tool?
Zeeth Kyrah that’s what I wanna know too. Maybe that’s why they couldn’t pick it themselves lmfao
S H A N K E D
T H E B O O T
Lock Company: "Exceeds Maximum Security"
LPL: "And I took that personally"
AKA "Challenge Accepted"
“Judging from this box this lock should be used on the doors of Fort Knox”
All the guards at Fort Knox slowly look at each other
BIRDY BOY 🤤
Fort Knox doesn't have a lock, just a bunch of really really bored soldiers with live ammo and orders to shoot anything that moves.
Now that's *real* ultra max security right there
@@Dashai2 iirc they actually have most of the soldiers at a training simulation type area in the woods just near the vault and if anything happens at the vault they're all rotated to the vault instsntly but I heard it in a documentary like 7 years ago could be wrong 😅
@@pandaeateh890 Fort Knox doesn't hold gold any more.
My pet peeve is with 'exceeds maximum'. You can not exceed maximum, that is literally what maximum means.
True o.o
I would give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that by "maximum security" they actually are referring to ANSI Grade I and are just assuming consumers would have no idea what ANSI Grade I means (which most people wouldn't). In that case it is certainly possible to exceed the minimum standard required to meet ANSI Grade I. I think they are referring to "maximum security" as a category, not literally referring to the maximum possible security.
They meant Magnus Maximus, who has been dead for more than 1600 years.
You're 150% right!
I think it’s meant to be hyperbolic for the purposes of getting people to watch
"So, maximum security lasts about twenty seconds, *snort" Dude, I laughed for several minutes at that one.
yes a laugh that exceeds maximum security several times
This is an old video. He sounds different. Like it was 3am, he could not sleep, so he went to make a video. He speaks slower and quieter. And he is disappointed with that lock. And rightfully so.
Makes me sad a little
I noticed that too. Maybe reading 'exceeds maximum security' 7 times took its toll on LPL mood.
He's changed/matured as a person & a content creator over the past 5 years... As everyone does.
Sounds sick to me
He's said in the past he'll have a glass of Scotch before his videos. This sounds like more 2 or 3 than 1. 😆 Makes it even more impressive.
There's something very enjoyable about a title like "SUPER ULTRA SECURE MAXIMUM SECURITY PRISON LOCK NON-PICKABLE MADE OF DIAMONDS AND KRYPTONITE" (Picked and gutted)
God I can't stop laughing
Sounds like Apples new naming line.
sounds like something you could find on Wish 💀
Needs adamantium, neutronium, or at least tritanium.
I love how absolutely savage and unyielding LPL is sometimes. You can hear how disappointed he is in this lock
Exceedes maximum security indicates it has rolled over back to zero
Unsigned lock.
Perhaps this is a pre-2000 lock that suffers from the Y2K bug?
Lol. So good.
Security overflow error.
PickOverflow
That reaction is pretty much "I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed."
As someone who has only discovered your awesome channel recently, I think it’s interesting to hear how much your verbal demeanor (for lack of a better term) has changed. You certainly sound happier and probably more at peace than you do in this video. I hope that’s true and your enjoyment of life and general contentment have improved. Regardless, you’ve helped me enjoy life more and I can’t thank you enough.
While you might be spot on, I'm pretty sure it more of it has to do with being a developing channel. You don't really have confidence when your channel is small, and your presentation (demeanor, way of speaking, tone etc) aren't set in stone yet.
I loved this. Listening to the young, angry LPL when I'm so used to the calm, professional LPL.
I'm imagining LPL having a son/daughter that threw a tantrum and locked the door. And LPL is just outside the room be like "Got a nice click on number one, click on number two... And that's it, we're in the room."
But if I read him right, LPL would be the kind of dad to say out loud, "I'm going to pick this lock now. If you have anything to say, now is the time..." Growing up, he'd be a man I'd respect.
XD
They'd have a bolt lock if it was a bedroom though
@@johnmartinez7440 , depending on the design, I'd say that bolt locks are pretty easy to deal with as well.
If you lived with LPL and didn't install a deadbolt, that's on you.
Watching the old vids always make me think I'm watching at 75% speed 😂. it's great to see how you've grown here and it's all documented for us step by step
I agree! Not only have his lock picking skills improved but also his “showmanship” or presentation skills; it’s a lot smoother and nice to follow along in the newer videos.
I recognize that lock as the one on my front door! Two minutes into the video and and I'm already feeling at ease knowing how secure it is and that he agrees. It's always a confidence boost to see someone else appreciate a product you've already selected on its merits. I'm probably not even going to watch the rest because I don't want to feel bad for this guy when he's thwarted from getting in.
Boy things got rough at 3:36.
I know, right? Hearing his frustration when trying to get the lock open; it's really sad to see. You've got a great lock, mate, and I hope you sleep well at night knowing you've got a lock that *exceeds maximum security*!
What's the law on this? If you sell a "beef steak" that's actually made of donkey, you're breaking the law. What makes it possible to get away with this?
I can’t stop laughing at donkey steak long enough to answer...
Good term for this kind of thing actually.
"This is a real donkey steak of a lock"
Depends on how they worded it. If the full text says something along the lines of “compared to Kwik Set Maximum Security locks”, that’s like saying “50% more! (than our smaller package)” which is completely legal. Caveat emptor, always read the fine print.
Robert Miles
It's like labeling food "Organic". Since there is no legal definition of the term, you can slap it on whatever you want.
Mmmmm.... Donkey steak. Wrapped in turkey bacon.
Took me about 3 minutes to pick one of these, my first lock with spool pins.
I hope one day I can do it in 20 seconds like LPL.
Bwaahahah.. so 1 spool = High Security, 2 spools = Maximum Security and 3 spools = Exceeds Maximum Security... now, what do you call a lock with a keyway so paricentric that you can't jam an SS Dev hook in there, has counter milled plug holes and 6 barrel spools?
Also, "20 seconds isn't bad compared to normal kwiksets" has got to be the worst burn I've heard in a long time - Love it! :D
Any company savvy enough to make a lock like that would call it pick resistant... because they would also be savvy enough to know that eventually, the pickers always prevail!
The lock referenced above is the Roko 1200 series aka Ruko D12.. they rate it at 7-10 minutes resistance which, all things equal, is being more than fair to the consumer I think.
Drill around the lock at 3 and 9 o'clock and they'll all fall off exactly the same in less than one minute. Real criminals don't pick locks to gain entry.
@オオカミの王 That's where the mounting screws are.
Hey hey hey... it was a full 30 seconds. lol
Wow, the difference in how he sounded in 2015 vs 2019 is crazy!
He sounded so young and nervous being on camera back then. Now it's "THIS is the Lock Picking Lawyer and what I have for you today is... (Literally any lock in the world). Okay. We're going to use [top of/bottom of] the keyway tension and use a standard [XY] thousandths pick....... and we got it open.
Yeah he sounds quite jaded now dosent he, hes gotten to the point where theirs no more challenge, figure he got to that point right around when his Ramset videos started
He's losing hope
@@AgentOffice
He still hasn't defeated the bowley.
Yooo I didn’t realize it was an old video until i saw your comment. I thought he is sad because of the pandemic or something.
40 years ago, when I was an apartment rental agent, we used to tell new renters that the K on a Kwikset key stood for "Keep my stuff Mr. Burglar, 'cause I didn't really want it anyway."
Imagine being able to pick a bolt lock in under 30 seconds.. Shit takes me longer just to find the right key to unlock it
Jeje
The marketing is not completely wrong. The lock is un-pickable as long as it is kept in the packaging.
Is that a challenge to LPL?
Gotta read that fine print.
LOL!!!
woowooNeedsFaith and who is to blame for defending such a claim, legally?
Plastic clamshell packaging is more of a challenge to open than this lock 😂
They meant the packaging is 7 times more secure.
As in the packaging can be opened without scissors. Less risk of cutting yourself when removing the packaging.
"I don't know what to say.." - I do, as a fellow lawyer, a class action for false advertising!
You wouldn't get anywhere. It is pick resistant. Not impenetrable
@@TheFreshSpam well, its evidently not
@@novastar6112 if the lock doesn't open when tapped with the picks its pick resistant. It resisted it. Its didnt just open. It was resistant to picks not impenetrable. Resistant means it puts up a fuss or slows you down but doesnt stop. Look up what resist means
@@TheFreshSpam didn't say "resistant". It says "anti-pick". They might have dodged the "pick-proof" claim, but anti-pick is sure as hell close, if not the same.
@@avinotion I would probably argue that "anti-pick" technically doesn't mean anything. It's like saying "anti-walk", it doesn't really make sense. "Anti" as a prefix normally refers to the opposite of a noun or verb, take "antimatter" for instance, it is literally the exact opposite of matter. Things that slow, resist or prevent something usually aren't referred to in that way. Take a fire blanket, for instance, those would be described as "flame-resistant" or "fire-retardant" but not "anti-fire".
Been watching/lirking for awhile. You actually lead me to get into picking as a hobby, not crime,guys. Anyway, my neighbors 3 year old locked her mom out of the house and she was freaking out. Came to use my phone, she was taking out trash and no phone, shoes, and wearing a bathrobe. She knocked on my door and as we talked we made our way to the bedroom where she......just kidding... I was able to pick her lock in like maybe a minute. She was so happy and relieved that, well, our one year anniversary is Oct 31st. Lol
Two years later I read this... that's awesome brother. Hope it's all going great.
Who else is watching this in 2021? Love his newer videos, but it's also nice to hear the younger LPL for a change.
His voice is so different
I love how cold LPL is with these OH-MY-GOD-ULTRA-MAXIMUM-FORT-KNOX-IS-JEALOUS locks. It makes for some great ASMR too.
Of course it's got a huge shear line; how else is the kid at the local hardware store supposed to make a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a key and expect it to actually work.
and so many don't ever work. The security is so obviously non existent yet key machines still can't duplicate it 50% of the time.
That will happen if they don’t clean and calibrate it or change blades after a number of keys.
That’s a really good point.
Hey LPL, have you considered doing a series on "hardening" or modifying these cheaper locks to show people how improve them with a little work? I'm sure many would be interested.
He has videos on exactly how to do this.
Did they not enclose a badge to stick on the door which says:
"Exceeds maximum security" - so the burglar knows that and reconsiders?
What a mistake.
Know those idiots they’ll put a label on the box saying “featured on LPL video”
Better off putting a sticker saying "Beware of the dog"
@@ShotgunNinja01 Meanwhile the dog: *Is a Chihuahua*
Probably a better deterrent than the lock itself honestly
Reminds me of the "Automatic Security" stickers and fake bells that people without security systems put on to deter unwanted entry. IMHO the stickers etc. work, and are a LOT cheaper.
The one thing I’d really love on LPL’s channel, is a playlist for the best of the best. Like the top 2 or 3 from each category.
Watching this now after watching newer LPL's videos is a huge improvement. Great job LPL! I always enjoy your videos.
LPL is a legend and more than probaby the best of all lock-pickers in the world ! I do have locks on my doors but stopped using them since I must be close to the world champion in losing keys. So, my house protection is 4 (four) trained Rottweilers. Not cheap on dog food, but it seems to work very well.
If it lasts 20 secs it is good
Honestly when a lock has to plaster how "secure" it is all over the packaging its probably quite bad
But.... But the package was so shinny. It has to be food if they make that effort
That’s marketing for you
As a tech-nerd, l think good products don't need marketing. Just print the spec sheet on the box and people will know it's good!
Like food that presents itself as "Gourmet"
@@trashgarbage7234 oops, that was a weird autocorrect typo
The sarcasm is just completely filling his voice in that first segment
This man is angery at the lock
And i dont blame him
You just picked it WRONG. Look at 1:08. Dude on the image is picking it without tension! 6 pins is way more than enough to withstand that kind of lockpick attacks :D
Yeah, I call cheats. Cheats and Hacks!
Cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater!
;P
The guy in the picture has flawless form.
A lock the LPL can't pick within 20 minutes - that's max security.
@ I just use the resto loop to enchant up a ring that gives me +10,000 in lock picking... even the toughest locks open with 0 effort
@@robertthomas5906 I doubt it exists.
You were suppose to install the lock with the packaging on for maximum security. LOL
supposed*
@@jtm232556Actually it's "supposed" not with an *
@@jtm232556 Grammar Nazi!
“Sounds like a Chuck Norris movie” lol it does say security like 7+ times but lasted 20seconds! Great content as always man!
I remember when there was a spree of burglaries going on in my area one of the local news stations has a security expert on to do a presentation about protecting your house. It boiled down to, "You can have the most expensive lock in existence on your door, but if the plate on your doorway is not properly installed with the correct kind of screws (as in not the screws provided with your doorknob/lock) and screwed in to the correct depth then a child could kick your door open.
On another note, Quickset now has a dozen job openings for “Defeating LPL Mechanical Engineer” positions.
Perhaps they could just pay the guy of the channel "Stuff Made Here" for his lock design. True it may be a bit more costly, but if it is a lock that held up really well to LPL's attacks and would most likely be a huge step up to any other household lock.
I wish they gave that much of a shit
@@sgvincent100 if I recall (its been like 6 months) LPL did not pick SMH's version 2 lock with back cover. Additionally, my point was not that SMH's lock was not unpickable. Rather from a security standpoint it was significantly better and would most likely deter all but the more experienced lock picker. Sometimes something does not have to be perfect in order to simply be a better enough solution to be worth while.
The lock that "exceeds maximum security" is a LPL classic. When TH-cam proposes a rerun, I can't help but watch.
The box is more secure than the lock itself 😂
Well, it DID take longer to open than the lock!
LOL
Hehe, thanks for the comment thread, everyone.
They bevel the pins to make up for the lousy machining. They need the beveled edges to allow the lock to function. The downside is that the picking is so much easier. A lock with a lot of slop in conjunction with pins that have beveled edges equates to easy pickings. Thanks for the video.
But, but... it's ULTRA security!
Everything about this video seems like I'm watching a completely different person pick a lock. Voice, cadence, temperament, delivery, setup, camera angles. If its the same person, wow, you've grown as a presenter over the years. Impressive.
Still picks the locks in seconds.
Well done on shaming this company.
Thanks... it is deserved. Not that this lock is awful (it's bad, but not that bad), but the marketing is just silly!
LockPickingLawyer no, its bad. did they even try tp provide bump protectio other than the spools that were probably compensated for by the beveled key pins?
LockPickingLawyer It exceeded maximum security and buffer overflowed into low security
They don't care. They already got his money.
When a company makes such a ridiculous claim they are asking for it.
I got a Kwikset ad on this video, glorious.
Thanks buddy. You sounded a little under the weather in this one, but still put out a video for us. I appreciate your dedication.
I love how he struggles more with he camera then the lock.
Here is the breakdown of how it can advertise 7 times greater than maximum security:
x1: MAXIMUM SECURITY - open field with your valuables in.
x2: Open field with your valuables in, guarded by a cow.
x3: Open field with your valuables, just a gate (you can walk around the gate, there is no fence) and guarded by a cow.
x4: Open field with your valuables, just a gate, guarded by a cow and a sign saying "No Tress-passing".
x5: All of the above but with a shed missing its door; placed on top of your valuables.
x6: There is no spoon.
x7: This lock.
Shut up! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Man 5 years really makes a difference! I genuinely thought this was a different person entirely from the LPL videos that usually show up in my reccomended
I wonder if the companies that advertise “high security locks” actually have a locksmith or security professionals on their payroll testing their products. What a joke. I can’t even describe the look on my client’s face when I pick a “high security lock” which they paid top dollars for. In one word, SCAM.
More than likely there was some guy in marketing who noticed a "maximum security" lock had 5 pins and figured since ours has 6... Lets say it is beyond max! Just without realizing that more pins doesn't necessarily mean better.
I am sure true quality lock companies do. But in reality there probably is no unpickable lock.
@@kokomo9764 Well you could probably make an "unpickable lock" which doesn't preclude it from having other points of failure. And it might even be possible to make a lock that literally cannot be opened without Key or combination but it would probably be to complicated and expensive to mass produce.
@crookshanks259 You are probably right. It would also be too expensive for the average person to buy. I don't own anything very valuable, so I'll just stick with Masterlock. At least I will know that if I lose the key, I can still get in.
@@kokomo9764 - No, there's that ONE that LPL couldn't do. I forget the maker (Bowley), but it was an incredible design. It had to have a steel key because it had this cutout ward running down the length of it. You had to stick it in, turn it 180º, push it in another 1/16 inch, and THEN turn it to engage the tumblers, which were protected completely within another cylinder within the lock cylinder. And there was a rotating sleeve that protected that cylinder, so you couldn't get a tension tool in there and effectively put any rotation tension on the cylinder OR use any sort of standard type picks to manipulate the tumblers.
LPL did think he ~might~ be able to fashion some sort of special tools just to pick that one lock after gutting it to examine the design, be he actually sounded sort of doubtful, and he's never made a follow up of that sort, only a f/u to look at the beefy as hell padlock the same company made with the same type of lock cylinder, which actually had some security improvements over the last design. The only weaknesses were in the lock body and shackle design themselves IIRC.
That is the ONLY time I've ever seen LPL defeated by a lock, and he actually sounded impressed, frustrated, and confused all at the same time xD.
4 years later and I still wanna see you test the ULTRA-STRIKE.
Interesting to watch this now and see how LPL's video making style has changed.
Dude, I know. I started this expecting to hear his normal intro 😂
I love how the image of picking on the box has absolutely no tension at all.
"Resists picking if you don't use a tension wrench!"
@@MxDiagnosis I'd say that it could be a comb pick but I doubt the designers even know what that is.
i'm sure the corporate rationale would go something like 'no reasonable person would take our claim seriously, after all it's based on a clear oxymoron, "excedes maximum" indeed! obvious puffery!' lol
Either that or the marketing department is as ignorant in physical security matters as most other people.
i'm sure you're right about the marketing dept. but someone with oversight must know better, que no?
Ahh, the Coca-cola Vitamin Water defense! Sure it screams healthy all over the bottle, but any fool can see the metric ton of sugar on the nutritional facts and realize it's satire!
How do you exceed "maximum"?
There's a sucker born every minute.
I think the claim they make is for the buyers out there at the big box stores.
Wow. I have been watching these vids for a year or so. I think this is as deep in the vault as I have ever been. Love your stuff, LPL.
To be honest it does exceed Kwikset's previous maximum security
Should rename it to quick pick.
Most of them are.
I thought thats what their name implyed it was easy to kwikset the pins
wow neverrmind trying several different stores to find EXCEEDS MAX ... and haveing to settle for what you dont want for a lock .all i know is thank you lock picking Lawyer and much respect J .[I Watch your and Bossnians and Deviant whenever i have the opprotunity] much respect toyou all and thank you for all of your post J.
I think you don't understand modern marketing: The "EXCEEDS MAXIMUM SECURITY" stamp was on the packaging, not on the lock, so it's the packaging that exceeds maximum security.
that ending sounds so sad compared to what he says today
I was a locksmith and safe technician for 20 years in a family business. I think what is driving the quality of the locks down to a certain degree is every big box and local hardware store churning out out of spec keys on poorly adjusted and maintained machines. I used one of those do-it-yourself machines in Lowes to cut some new keys when I moved into a new house, just to see how bad they were. They were 10 to 15 thousandths out front to back and key to key... and they still worked. I was shocked. I just couldn't believe it. Then I thought about it. The lock manufacturers don't really care about the consumers any more. They don't care about the quality of the product they are producing and they don't care about the security of the product and thus, ultimately, the end user.
The lock manufacturers are allowing tolerances to slip so their retailers can rekey and service the products they sell so the retailers are incentivized to sell even more of that brand. We first saw this is the early 90's when Kwikset started offering pinning kits directly to retailers. Then it was training, packaged as part of their 'marketing'. Glad I got out when I did.
Watching this in 2020 makes me realize how much LPL has progressed over the years.
I love how the packaging shows someone holding a pick with their fist, and just jamming it in there.
When he's picking the locks he reminds me of a very gentle dentist !
"Exceeds maximum security" = "better than our other locks".
To be fair to Kwikset, I've only twice had people get past them in my businesses, and both times that was by kicking in the door, not opening the lock. Would have been cheaper if they had picked the lock. I wouldn't have had to replace the door and frame as well as the lock.
You can reinforce the door frame. That costs more than a lock, but it's a lot cheaper and easier than dealing with a break in. And, you'll get the satisfaction of going to your business some day, seeing some footprints on the door, and knowing that some idiot hurt his foot while failing to break in.
@@chrisedwards3866 This deadbolt actually comes with a strike cup and extra long screw that goes into the stud unlike what most deadbolts come with -- this product is actually providing the frame reinforcement you're suggesting.
@@carlpine6596 The biggest problems with the product go far beyond the lack of any serious pick resistance. But if anyone cared, this would not be the number one volume selling lock brand in the world. The MAX security model must include their reinforced strike plate. I like these, because when I remove the lock and put a GOOD one in, I do not need to prep for our strike, just swap it. The strike plate DOES make it better than any lock that only comes with a door frame-hole decorative plate.
Cheapest way I found to make a door harder to kick in is...... 1st: get 4 1/2 inch case hardened deck screws.....2nd a really strong cordless drill....and replace all the short, 'wimp' screws in your hinges & striker plates with these deck screws. Worked on the side door to my garage, it was a mess but stopped them from getting in
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Or just use hinge bolts?
The packaging on the USB Flash Drives I buy takes longer to get into than this lock did lol. (Plastic double clamshell.)
I feel ya, those are tough to get into!
5 year later and your presentation skills have grown to 'beyond OK'.
You are now, 'Ultra OK/200% of exceeding maximum OK-ness' x7. Well done!
(Your voice was funnier back then when you sounded exasperated, and were trying not to swear at the packaging/manufacturer.)
Can you have an episode where you recommend locks and safes for us?
Kinda just depends on what you have to lock up. You could put the best lock ever made on a storage unit. I don't have to touch the lock, I can just remove the whole latch using a drill with a stepped bit and tin snips. Every lock is designed to be bypassed. Locks keep honest people honest. The harder you have to work to steal something the more time you have to contemplate your decisions in life. lol.
LPL said over and over, it doesn't matter what locks you put on, don't spend too much money on them, usually a $20 kwikset is alright, because at the end of the day, your house has windows, and a robber doesn't care if he breaks your lock, door, window or wastes time to pick it. They will do it when noone's home and most likely not by picking. Drilling through if anything.
Yeah... a metal welded room...o wait ... even that is penetrable
Komen Cents Your a Douche bag.
We are still waiting...
He sounds so nice and natural. Not the terrifying sing-song lockpicker of 2020.
This is the original Lock Picking Lawyer.
"People trust what they read on packages, and frankly, they shouldn't" That pretty much sums it up.
"Hey! You're not supposed to actually try picking it! Take this down!"
Nebula: We found all SIX infinity stones in a home on Earth.
Thanos: Excellent, we embark immediately for Earth.
Nebula: They have a Kwikset lock.
Thanos: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
There is so much emotion in your voice in these early videos.
Your pin tray holds 8 pins. Wouldn't that mean a "maximum security" lock would be at least an 8- pin lock?
Yeah but this *exceeds* maximum security.
By having less pins, no gated keyway, no abnormal tumblers, spool drivers...
Well, there are 11 pin bibles
its better than most quiksets? do others open with a sharp glare?
Better than most, and yes, most open with extremely little effort.
LockPickingLawyer What quickest has the best security without the hype marketing? I've watched so many of your videos. You never mention something worth buying.
Danny G quick set isn't worth buying. , on Locklab (Bosnian bill's site) there's a list of several decent locks, both padlocks and door locks. I wouldn't be surprised if LPL has a list somewhere too since its a fairly common question, but I just remember where to find Bill's
metamorphicorder yes... My first Kwikset I ever picked took me 26 seconds... With ONE HAND (tensioning and picking),
Danny G none. Buy from a local locksmith and go commercial if you can afford it. EVVA makes some quality hardware, so does Assa Abboy... There are many others, though most will need to be ordered and you won't get them for $20.
Funfact: It took you longer to open the packaging and getting the lock ouf of the box, then it took to pick it. Does that mean that the packaging is more secure then the lock itself?
Next time I buy a lock I’m using the packaging to lock my door. And just throw away the lock.
LPL at the local store looking through the locks section: ultra high anti picking protection? *hehehe* o boi u messed up....
Meanwhile the nearest shop assistant: why do I hear epic final boss music?
We never get to see his eyes, but I bet they really lit up when he saw the bitting on those keys!
Well it looks like the marketing department, has taken the politicians argument. If you repeat it enough times it’s got to be true, or atleast the general public will think so! I’m glad you and Bill are out there spreading the word, and cautioning people not to believe everything they read and proving why!
That actually WAS the title of a Chuck Norris movie.
Because only Chuck himself can defeat this lock.
Oh shit, wait. Disregard last.
LOL! I laughed through the whole video... Thanks for the great comedy! Made my day...hehe...
:-)
I appreciate u showing this product for what it is.
It sounds like it will bite your pick off when inserted, and it is no better than many others.
A lock and deceptive marketing so attrocious, LPL even sounds physically sickened by it.
Imagine what a Medeco box would say to top what this kwikset says.
'Exceeds Ultra-Maxi-Supreme Security'
+Git Pick'd Then, there's Abloy Protech. How do you get better than "Exceeds Ultra-Maxi-Supreme Security"? "Like a Brick Wall" ... Actually, that's not a bad slogan.
LPL always wishes us a nice day so I’d like to wish LPL a nice day!
HaH! it took you longer to take it out of the package then it did to pick it!
+Jess Hull LOL. That's about right.
+Jess Hull than*