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- Unconscious bias is a prevalent factor driving culture, causing us all to make assumptions based on our own upbringings and influences. Such implicit prejudice affects everything, and it's time for us to be more thoughtful, smarter, better. In this funny, honest talk, Yassmin Abdel-Magied uses a surprising way to challenge us all to look beyond our initial perceptions.
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10:52 ''I was born muslim''
NO CHILD IS BORN BELIEVING ANYTHING. I think she meant 'I was RAISED muslim'
***** According to Islam EVERYBODY are born muslim. This is why anybody converting to islam are called "reverts" not converts. So -she is both born and raised muslim, I'm afraid.
Knut Lyd Im sure SOME people do believe that. I do not.
^ please tell me your joking
***** You are right, but go easy on this trivial technical mistake alright?
Everyone is born a believer
Tell her to give this speech in Saudi Arabia. She will then know exactly what her headscarf means to me.
Stop fucking bringing up Saudi Arabia or Iran into this. We Muslims fucking despise them both with at least 90%
Jonathan Green hi i'm a muslim gay guy from Saudi Arabia. my muslim married aunt is an engineer and works in an oil company without a head scarf.... i don't know what year you and your media lives in.
3jw can she walk on the streets without it?
Alpha SSNP and yet you worship from the same book. This is no different than a moderate Christian berating the Westboro Baptist church.
i'm free to do what i like. so is you.
This is one of my favourite TED Talks. Not only is she amazing, but she brings people to realize their unconscious bias (considering it's unknown for most) and encourages people to challenge whatever prejudices they may have. Great, inspirational and moving. Thank you.
Could also do the opposite by affirming orhers' confirmation biases.
Does she even know what she is speaking about?
(stares in Lebanese diaspora who is salty about Muslims fighting with Christians in my homeland)
Usually when I see a woman with a headscarf, I think, "Oooh that's a pretty scarf, I wonder where she got it." Personally, I'm a fan of scarves. I don't feel the need to be humble. I just wrap my head on occasion for comfort reasons. And I gotta say, sometimes I get some really odd (and prolonged) looks. I say people should dress however they want to dress. You want to cover more? Do it! You want to bare more? Do it! No one owns your body. Personally, in western society, I've favored baggy clothing because I hated being ogled. Yes, I realize now that it's not *my* fault that I get ogled, but that doesn't change the fact that dressing in form-fitting clothing draws a lot of attention which makes me uncomfortable. As I get older, I become more and more rebellious. If I want to bare skin, I do so. If I want to cover myself, I do so. It's my right. No one owns me. So I support anyone else who wants to be more "modest" or more free. I encourage everyone to feel comfortable in their own skin.
You've accepted that women wearing a veil are more modest than women that don't. In that way wearing a veil becomes a sign of moral superiority. It's a natural tendency for people to form groups and they always defend that as a positive way to associate with one another but the downside of forming a group is the exclusion of the people who aren't allowed in and the way they are looked upon. That is usually the start for bigotry and violence between groups. The only solution to that is that we don't ascribe a higher moral value for members of our group but accept the humanity and equal worth of everybody or possibly even understand that the evolutionary advantage of forming a group in a modern world becomes more and more meaningless.
Yassmin Abdel-Magied has never read the quran and al hadith... I did... in Arabic..
She is sugar quoting barbaric islam and fabricating stuff as she goes along...
Sharia means Law, no need to add law, is quran clarified by Al Hadith (mainly Sahih Al Bukhari). Read Sahih Al Bukhari 9.84.57 about her false claim that there is no compulsion in islam: “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him". Also, read the prayers in quran 9:5 and 5:33. That's real islam.
@@bushkhalifa6341 Respect yourself... and people will respect you... There is no hate nor ignorance... Saying Islam is a fabricate cult of hate against infidels and women, terror and Halalized crimes by a false prophet who prayed on little girls and married Aisha at 6 is NOT hate on Islam... It's describing Islam.
Can you read Arabic?
Read Sahih Al Bukhari 9.84.57 about her false claim that there is no compulsion in islam: “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him".
@@bushkhalifa6341 very low IQ comments.... Muhammad the false prophet who preyed on women and children, even legalized child marriage to molest Aisha when she as a child, has deceived you for 1,400 years...
You have never read the quran and al hadith, let alone al sirah al nabawiyyah or al sahabah... I did... in Arabic..
Muhammad's punishment for apostasy is very clear in the quran and al hadith.. yet you parrot "There is no compulsion in faith"
Sharia means Law, no need to add law, is quran clarified by Al Hadith (mainly Sahih Al Bukhari).
Read Sahih Al Bukhari 9.84.57 about her false claim that there is no compulsion in islam: “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him". Also, read the prayers in quran 9:5 and 5:33. That's real islam.
I personally love to wear headscarf and find it very stylish, during my high school years I met a friend that was muslim and must say she was very beautiful and very smart but had to work a lil bit more than others to be heard or even noticed especially in a room full of men. The points you mentioned are completely right everyone has the right to dress in a manner that makes them happy not others, as a women I can be covered or not covered people will still discriminate or look down on me so I feel life way too short to try make others happy. Be you and make your happy & never chance your values beliefs for others.
My first thought: "A woman who has sacrificed her reason and independence in order to adhere to an archaic, barbaric, patriarchal religion."
This is not a bias but the result of a logical and empirical analysis of Islam in theory and practice in history and today. It has always fitted every Muslim woman wearing a headscarf I've ever met, even the most progressive ones. It applies to this TEDx speaker as well.
Funaru I think the key word to include in these discussions is "compartmentalization". I find it really unsettling that she can make a sound argument detailing the ways in which our biases affect our perceptions, yet she still only allows herself to see the parts of Islam she wants to (because thats the only way any moral person could ever be ok with it).
fxxxprofanity Agreed. It requires a great deal of cognitive dissonance to adhere to a religious tradition that makes women second class citizens and have jobs like a boxer or an engineer at the same time.
Funaru Thank GAWD for that cognitive dissonance. Islam (like any of the religions that have gotten so big) cannot be actually destroyed in any sort term, but it can be subverted with insidious liberal beliefs :P. They're being dumb, yes, but it can be an overall help for societal reform. Plenty of Christians in the west will simply never leave 'Christianity' in their lifetime, its just how our brains and cultures work, BUT they CAN foster a cognitive dissonance in their mind that allows change to happen regardless. Personally, I think the 1900s was the century for that to happen/start in Christianity (helped by foundations of the last couple of centuries of reform before it; and now Christians are dropping off into non-religion or atheism/agnostic atheism), and the 2000s may be the century for it to happen/start in Islam (helped by precedent with Christianity and the far-too-fast spread of technology, information, communication). Maybe I'm idealistic with that, but whatever, I have hope and it has some grounding.
Funaru I'm sorry, correct me if I'm wrong, as a result of your extensive research of the Sciences of Hadith and Quran, Islamic Jurisprudence, History of Islam as a whole(the past 1400 years) and the Arabic lexicon, you managed to summarise it, logically of course, into one sentence. I do fail to understand, however, how I have forsaken, by your standards typically, my ability to be independent and devoid of reason by just covering my hair (?).
1) Reading and interpreting mythical texts isn't a science.
2) One needn't know Arabic to understand Islamic theology and history.
3) Only women who veil themselves
because they imagine a God demands it are irrational, not all women who cover their hair.
Why is it important for us to embrace diversity in the first place? Why should this be an explicit goal of a workplace or otherwise? Should jobs not go to the most qualified?
DuncanL7979 I agree. If you're qualified then you're qualified. Funny because people can be given scholarships or job positions simply because they are of a certain race or gender despite that there could be someone who has prior experience and worked hard to apply for that same position and not get it. That's not injustice in of itself?
Nikki Caswell not to mention the non whites are taking over white nations and we cant invade an take over their useless shitholes
DuncanL7979
a. To properly ensure even opportunity regardless of your race. If the occupation is dominated by specific race, that leads to assumptions that they're the only ones that can handle it, while not that many occupations have anything to do with race.
b. Diversity is a one factor of creativity. When we learn to look beyound the safe and narrow perspective of our familiar tribe, we learn to think outside of the box and experiment wider. Remember, as they are diverse to you, you are diverse for them.
Nobody is arguing that underqualified diverse raced person should take the spot of the non-diverse one. That would be racism. The problem is that we undervalue the diverse race, because of this bias(if it works, don't fix it).
DuncanL7979 The goal was never to achieve diversity in workplace.
However, the lack of diversity suggest that unconscious biasness plays a role in determining the work force and those in the work force aren't necessary the most qualified.
There is a subtle difference in those two.
The orchestra experiment is a perfect example.
The Quran says:
Quran (33:59) - "Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them..."
Quran (24:31) - "And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts and do not display their ornaments except what appears thereof, and let them wear their head-coverings over their bosoms, and not display their ornaments except to their husbands or their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or those whom their right hands possess, or the male servants not having need (of women), or the children who have not attained knowledge of what is hidden of women; and let them not strike their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may be known." The woman is not only supposed to cover herself, except with relatives, but to look down, so as to avoid making eye-contact with men.
Quran (33:55) - "It shall be no crime in them as to their fathers, or their sons, or their brothers, or their brothers’ sons, or their sisters’ sons, or their woman, or the slaves which their right hands possess, if they speak to them unveiled" A woman may present herself without a veil only to family and slaves.
do ou read Quran ?
Men too are also asked to cover and look down. Where you at?
It's not only for women,men also have to keep their gaze down in front of a women,and protecting our parts is not something bad,that's why there is less number of rape case among our society
matthieuriolo im from Kuwait.an islamic country mostly.rape allegations are atleast 2-3 reports a year.
matthieuriolo how much in America?
someone explain this to me, if hijab (headscarf) is to hide your beauty for your husband which to me is a noble act then why would you then go to wear make up which is to promote your beauty.. its like me going to the gym to lose weight but every single time after going to the gym and finishing my workout i then proceed to go to mcdonalds and eat a fat meal with a milkshake on the side.. just dont make sense.
Maybe it's because that's not why they wear it. Plenty of muslim women who are not married wear it, and marriage and kids is not compulsory in the religion
***** My answer to you as a Muslim: it doesn't make any sense. You're absolutely right and your gym analogy is brilliant. However, I think it's still better than nothing at all.
God says in the Noble Quran :
"Tell the believing men to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts. That is purer for them. Indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what they do.
And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests and not expose their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, their brothers' sons, their sisters' sons, their women, that which their right hands possess, or those male attendants having no physical desire, or children who are not yet aware of the private aspects of women. And let them not stamp their feet to make known what they conceal of their adornment. And turn to Allah in repentance, all of you, O believers, that you might succeed."
Surat "An-nur" ("The Light" Chapter) 24:30-31.
sasssine
yup just dont make sense
Like all girls even those who cover up have insecurities so by wearing makeup they can feel more confident in their own ski and i personally belive that makeup applied in more of a natural way is ok whilst wearing hijab
DrMilgram Older women are allowed to stop wearing the veil. It's in the Coran. And some of them do stop wearing it or wear it in a more relaxed way.
EDIT: If Muslim women in the US stopped getting sexually harassed by non-Muslims in the US because they set themselves entirely as from another group then it has already worked out wonderfully for them. Also they are not responsible for how others interpret their dress or if they get deranged by it for their personal reasons.
I don't judge people by things they cant change, like the color of their skin. I judge them for believing in bronze-age religions. You aren't born a Muslim or a Christian, we're all born humans. Religion is a choice. Choose wisely :)
scubadrew9292 I can't wait for the big arguments, debates, conflicts about things if/once its 'proven' that we aren't even born, and that consciousness is an utter illusion. Humanists vs Transhumanists fight fight fight! But for now, annoying and old and boring religion fights, yawnnn.
scubadrew9292 We're not born a certain religion but manipulated from birth so it's not as simple as a choice, it's the effect of lifelong manipulation.
Nothing against God but the religions that we see around us are just to flawed. In your case women are blamed for sin. But you shouldn't have to worry. In tradition, villages used to put all their blame on a goat and then throw him off a cliff and the villages thought they were clean. A scapegoat.
Later religion put the blame for your sins and everybody else on an innocent human and then kill him and think that now they are free of their own sins. It is washed away by the blood of the suffering victim. A human scapegoat.
So even if you are a woman you shouldn't have to worry. Or do you find these ideas to unjust and repulsive to accept? Innocent victims blood makes you clean and righteous in the eyes of the Lord. If the Lord is not corrupt or easily fooled well then of course these people are in deep deep trouble.
Muslim Well no one can really leave. Islam is crazy like that. Crazyyyyy.
I chose to be muslim. my family is all Catholic
We all need to accept that outfit doesn't define who you are, we are limitless and really need to change our perspectives.
Thats so true, I believe the saying when they say dont change a book by its cover there is so much more to learn if we just take the time to read a few chapters in the book.
Ignore the ignorant. They have nothing to offer. Your message was well received. Thank you.
Adriana Contreras So no arguments then.. Just: " you're stupid". How eloquent.
Adriana Contreras You do realize that your are just proving your own ignorance by dismissing the many very legitimate arguments against this. Its ok though you can go on being ignorant and not look at it through the eyes of others.
Benjamin Wood What fucking arguments, their are none, you literally just created your own double standard by refusing to look through the eyes of her argument. Go home kid, you're drunk
Oh please +jesuspaid4you2 i'm assuming you read this in the QURAAN... Or perhaps you just "saw" this happening by your house? #trololol
Benjamin Wood So as long as I see things from your perspective I am not ignorant. However, if I have my own opinion I am being ignorant. Interesting Benjamin. Sounds like you are precisely the kind of person she is referring to. MInd your business. My comment was to her and not to you. I don't know you from Sam. Nor do I care for your opinion be it different or equal to mine. You are entitled to your own thoughts and views.
I had a lot of misconception when i started watching this ted clip. I have never been more happy to be proven wrong, inspirational really!
@Simon Jordan What makes you think Muhammad is a pedophile???????
Can you give me specifics reason to all your claims?
If not then that makes you slanderer and deceiver yourself.
@Ajax Soundgod wow.. you literally copy and pasted this comment on another replies lol. And what a pathetic hateful social circle you must be living in
@Ajax Soundgod eh. Not copy pasting comments anymore?
@Ajax Soundgod why do a typical hate preacher like you always put words into other people's mouths. Saying we say things we never stated. Not surprising. Self centered person
@Ajax Soundgod ignorant people never be clever once in their life and you're that person.Huh?In Quran?Give me the evidence .Are you a clown?this is so funny
It doesn't surprise me that she boxed or was a race engineer.
It would surprise me if she had a bunch of gay friends though.
SpaceManDawn why?... that's so random
SpaceManDawn No we don't. Just like how not all Christians hate gays.
Maria A
My cousin was murdered by Muslims for being openly gay.
They threw rocks at him until he died. He was only 17.
SpaceManDawn Sorry to hear about your cousin. However, nothing in islam justifies that kind of behaviour, that's called extremism. I dare you to prove me wrong. Yes, islam doesn't advocate homosexuality, but islam also doesn't advocate murder. If someone "chooses to be" homosexual, then it's nothing but a sin... and you should never be killed for a sin. So what "they" did doesn't have anything to do with islam. Also, this is coming from a gay muslim.
SpaceManDawn I'd actually be shocked if someone who spoke so passionately against discrimination had a problem with people's sexual orientation.
Yassmin, in 90's my country Indonesia it is common to have diversity around us, we have moslem, hindus, christian friends. we can live without noticing our different believes, we just work, play, and live side by side. it was really beautiful. Until today... there are so many radical believes (including radical Islam) which threaten our every day life spread fears whenever I go to mall worrying will there be attack, or worrying will my friend gonna convert into radicals and begin to hate all us, radicalism is the problem to be fix not the other around.
once my teacher says any religion can lead to excess of fanatism then it can lead to radicalism and it will end our diversity.
And... I wish there is a cure to radicalism without guns.
@@cineverse442 our country is far better.
@@ayezaamin1510 which one?
muslim, hindus, christians but all of them are indonesians..
Would TED be able to arrange the same lecture in Saudi but by a white or Asian woman in western business suit with long hair out, telling the Muslim men that women not in hijab don't sleep around? The lecturer blames the countries where she has the freedom to choose her outfit, but not explain to me that why I cannot wear my causal outfit in many Muslim countries? Many Muslim lecturers on TED focus how they got mistreated by the western countries offering them freedom, and they still choose to go with their tradition, whilst keeping silence of the western world being mistreated by these Muslim countries. I am more than happy to accept other cultures, but first I need to have the same freedom of my outfit when traveling to these Muslim countries, and, as a single woman. We need a fair game!
Well for one, you can't wear your outfit in a Muslim country because what I imagine what you mean by "your outfit", it probably might have a bit too much skin showing which is the equivalent to a woman wearing a bikini in a toy store.
A good point: I'm so tired of Muslim women picking on the "flaws" of Western society, when the majority of Muslim countries are literally dripping with injustices to women- although they have some legitimate points, they would be of much greater service to the world by helping to bring their own Islamic societies "up to speed" with the modern world; THEN we can work on the other issues....
"Too much skin" as being decided by....whom?
You are aware there are TED lectures in Turkey, Uzbekistan, Malaysia? These are all Muslim countries. Why when people talk about something everyone jumps onto Saudi Arabia band wagon. You are aware that in America there are states where polygamy is allowed. Does it mean that just because American nutheads love to have 5 wifes at a time, it should be legal in Europe too? Or walking around in USA with a gun is completely normal, will you be able to do that in U.K.? No! Just no! Every country is different.
You can dress however you want in most muslim countries. Most. Some people use religion as an excuse to tell people what to do, which is wrong.
My Czech grandmother used to wear a headscarf when she went out. She was Catholic.
Cheers!!!
There is a difference and surely you can tell what it is.
Me too, my grandma was Catholic. But the historical and religious reasons for why catholic nuns cover themselves and why muslims wear the hijab are vastly different. The social meaning differs.
Joyful Moon i agree whats the difference
Well to be exact Mary,Mom of jesus also wore scarf
But she was free to take up the violin and join an orchestra and shed the scarf at concerts - if she had talent in that direction and wanted to pursue it.
As I understand it, the headscarf is an symbolic way of accusing all men of being rapists. Correct me if I am wrong, but I gather that Islam requires "modesty" in female dress to prevent them inflaming male lust.The wearing of concealing garments is a protection against this danger. In brief, what it means to me is that I am being accused of potential sexual violence.
not all men..but there are some.. you wouldn't deny..islam requires men to lower their gaze and do not look with lustful intentions and also wear modestly.. it is for preventive reasons not for accusing all men or women.
just because you dont approve of someones religon does not give you the right to bash them , im not religious at all but i respect other peoples religion and if i dont approve i just keep it to myself
I do NOT respect religion. I have zero tolerance towards it.
+Anna Danielson We all have the right to criticize any ideology no matter what. No idea is above criticism, and religion is in great need of it, especially islam.
+Elias Hedberg spreading hate won't make the world a better place either
Hate is subjective. Exposing Islam as the idiotic and backwards belief that it is could be considered hateful, I in fact think it is. But it's the good kind of hate; we should all hate bullshit. Don't confuse this with hating all muslims though. You can hate the belief while respecting the believer.
Anna- just because you think you do doesn't give you the "right" to determine what others' "rights" are.....
The amount of ignorance is astonishing. Absolutely astonishing.
MrBeasterAndFeaster The overview at the bottom says it all; unconscious Bias..
People need to learn when to leave others alone. Most of these "critics" are just unabashedly shaming people for having the right to believe what they want to believe.
Its like systemic oppression at its finest!
I feel like I'm entirely juxtaposed to the ignorance in this comment section, which sucks, it makes me sad that people can be so dismissive of things they dont understand.
Not that i'm saying I have a deeper understanding of the subject matter either I'm an atheist, but I would never go around to my Christian/Muslim/Buddhist/Jewish friends and give them flak because they want to have faith in something they think makes them a better person. That would be fucked. If anything I admire their faith because in its way its pure regardless of their shortcomings. And neither do they give me flak for not believing in any religion. because they are decent and respectful human beings.
I learned at a young age to respect peoples decisions not vilify them for it and I'm downright appalled at peoples ignorance in this matter.
GlazedGamer Yeah you're right , Thats why people who bash and disrespect the religions I can't call them atheists or agnostic, they are anti - religious into where they constantly oppose the religions and and disrespect those who believe in it. It's ok to question the people about their religion but when you intend to gain or give knowledge
GlazedGamer When Muhammad ordered his followers to "kill unbelievers" and the pretext for attacking others was their belief, was that "unconscious bias"?or was that "conscious bias"?
CHAS1422 when did the prophet order to kill the unbelievers ?
Justkidding BIGFAN One among many verses:
Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
"lack of oppurtunity due to unconcious bias"
the lack of oppurtunity is due to alot of factors besides unconcious bias which are much more significant in determining outcomes. class is the greatest indicator of oppurtunity by far, children from the upper classes will do better than those from the working class regardless of race, gender or religion.
sure
(Background: I was raised a Muslim in a Muslim-majority. At the age of 12, I started wearing the headscarf after hearing many sheikhs and even a teacher talking about how women who don't wear it will be tortured by Allah. I choose to study engineering, even though some people told me a woman who chooses that job is not decent. In 2013, I rejected Islam, mostly in secret. Out of the 2 people who knew about it, my mother, told me that I deserve to be killed if I speak up. I continued wearing the headscarf cause I wanted to avoid trouble. I left for Europe in 2016. My bag had only one jacket, but had, nonetheless, 12 headscarfs, put there by my mother. No need to say, I don't wear it now, without my parents knowing)
Now, I don't see the point of grouping all what you say are biases in the same category. Women from Muslim majority countries are way more likely to be oppressed and less likely to be educated than women in the west. To me, a woman who defends hijab or Islam is the same as a woman who says "My husband beats me, but it's not bad. I am not oppressed and you shouldn't be against it" (btw, beating wives is a part of Islam). She not only allows him to do so, but also encourages others to keep silent about other women getting beaten.
I will not, however, try to stop you from wearing it, or prefer someone else to you for a job that you are both equally qualified at.
You would be way less likely to have the privileges you have now if you have stayed in Sudan, despite that the so-called "bias" against Muslim women wouldn't be there. I just hate how Muslims talk about "biases" and minority rights when they are minorities, and don't say a word about how Muslim majority countries treat women, homosexuals and atheists. It's hypocritical, to say the least.
beating women is not part of islam. Your irogance can be seen from a mile away.
After 7 years do you still think in the same stupid way?
NEWS FLASH! Everyone has bias, everyone has prejudice. Asking people not to have bias is like asking them not to breathe.
So rather than demanding the impossible why not just adopt the culture of your nation, if not then do not complain if everyone looks and points.
I'm Muslim but finding out anyone I just met was a boxer or managed a oil rig would surprise me. those are pretty unique situations
That's kinda the whole point of the talk...
fr like a muslim women i would never expect to me a boxer because hitting in the face is haram. am i racist secist homophobic or am i using logic
only in our European Society could you do that
Odis Mesa naaah you can do it in Kuwait too..
I'm from kuwait 😂 and it's like any other regular country idk about other countries.
Rawan Almufti yeah😂
Rawan Almufti but he/she is saying that the girl in this video can ONLY talk like this in a European society
People in the west are just stupid... They believe they are the bedst and have the perfect system XD
From the amount of hate on the comments here, we clearly need another talk about conscious bias!
I know, right? I can't believe all the hate here
It makes me want to vomit
No shortage of virtue signalling either it seems.
In this woman's case, it's entirely deserved, and self-inflicted. Her conduct, and disrespect towards the nation, and the people, who gave her refuge, is a disgrace.
Indeed, both Yassmin, and those who seek to enable her, despite her racist disrespect towards the people, and the nation that gave her refuge --- a claim that's now been proven to be a blatant like --- are perfect candidates for retrospective abortion.
ohhhhhhhhhhhh its a fuckin tedx, it makes sense now. but how'd they get it on this channel?
Andrew Haddad for "cultural enrichment" reasons, any Muslim would get flayed alive by a real TED audience
*****
Please explain. Does "real TED audience" not support free speech?
Yes I know it's a bit contradictory to say "free speech" that fundamentalist muslims are opposing themselves too, but this speech isn't about endorsing islam, not to mention fundamentalist islam.
RealationGames
When I say "flayed alive" I imagine a TED audience would atleast give them the time of day and respectfully listen to their argument. However I greatly doubt many would agree and I'm sure many would take on certain points and argue them back. There's no positive to being a Muslim that I can think would make a smart academic audience would appreciate and support.
What even are her arguments?
That she was able to become an engineer and do boxing in a non-Muslim country.
That there used to be sexism in a non-Muslim country.
That it is good to be diverse, and that we should try to resist sexism.
Listen to what she says, she grew up and lives in Australia. She has no idea what growing up in a Muslim country is like. Nothing she says in this lecture has anything to do with Islam, but she seems to think that because she identifies as a Muslim, this is somehow in defence of Islam. She was raised in freedom and equality, and now thinks that it is fair to spit on it.
She has not attempted to answer the question she presents. 0 marks.
Man thank you.
dont think it has anything to do with being a Muslim or woman specifically and just more about general biases that humans have.
@@Jay-kx4jf You know, this is narcissism at it's purest. She is basically saying that all the middle Eastern countries, all the Muslim majority countries that claim to follow Islam are wrong. And if she was their leader and if she lead them that would be the true and pure Islam. All were wrong. She is the only bright person to rightly interpret the thousands year old books.
@@pranshuanand2974 you think like mußlim
I live in a Muslim country and what she says is right
It was a shock to my speech. We all subconsciously have one or more biases. It is inevitable, but we can learn to overcome it and help and open our hearts to other different people. This seems to be the best way to live in a peaceful society
Imagine a man driving to a strip club. There's a stripper waiting for the shift to start. Right before it's time the stripper says: "I can't go out there!" Why, ask the others? "My brother's there.". Now how many of you awful biased people thought the stripper was a girl? It wasn't, it was a dude! Sorry, but the surgeon point is stupid.
The fact that we automatically think A surgeon is male comes from the fact that the vast majority of surgeons ARE IN FACT male. "The number of women entering general surgery has climbed steadily; they now account for more than 35 percent of trainees in the United States. But very few women have moved into leadership roles. About 5 percent of practicing neurosurgeons and orthopedic surgeons are female."
If you don't want us to be biased, lead women to work harder and ecourage them to move to leadership roles. But don't tell me it is my fault that the majority of women are not interested in a specific field and when they are, 30% of them don't do well enough to be good at it!
Seminko Yes, most surgeons are male, but it is surprising that even knowing that his dad was dead and his other parent would be a woman that people were still confused by the surgeon saying that the patient was her son. That caught me out too and I'm a woman.
Couldn't agree more with you.
Seminko Bias is not the only problem but denying it exist is ridiculous. There's bias with race, gender and class. Your point just makes another example of bias. We tend to think in generals instead of particulars, and for that is that particular cases suffer the rule of the majority.
Is a self perpetuating problem, there isn't more female surgeons because a bias exist and a bias exist because there isn't more female surgeons.
AguzSuiCaedere "Is a self perpetuating problem, there isn't more female surgeons because a bias exist and a bias exist because there isn't more female surgeons." Have you read what I posted? There aren't more female surgeons because women do NOT want to take the responsibility!
If you don't want their to be bias, stop enforcing a patriarchal society that says men are more capable and that men walk harder. An example in this video clearly showed that men are favoured. It is not a lack of encouragement and work ethic that stops women becoming surgeons or top paying jobs, it is the oppressive society that shows women as inferior.
allahu ahkbar
Michael Matta Admiral Ackbar!
IT'S A SCARF!
orestisDisturbed It's a scarf -like the bones-and-scull emblem on SS officers hats are just pins.
Michael Matta ماكدونادز
Knut Lyd but... Admiral Ackbar said it! It must be a scarf! (I hope you realize it's a Star Wars reference to the "IT'S A TRAP" quote...)
I support her right to wear a scarf BUT why would she want to be ASSOCIATED with saudi arabian sharia law? If I was a muslim woman, I would choose not to wear a scarf, to show my OPPOSITION to sharia law.
I belive that Islam is not fundamentally bad. Or any worse than any other religion. It is the people who follow these religions who are at fault for using faith to support their tyrannical world views.
***** Yeah, kind of how the worl- people, I guess I should say, are.
***** both decisions are personal choices practiced by muslim women around the world..for instance in an arabic muslim majority country like TUNISIA..the liberal government forbade HIJAB for a very long time...a large number of women protested as they wanted to wear it in compliance to interpretations of certain verses in the quran THAT CLEARLY encourages modest clothing for both men and women...it has nothing to do with Saudi arabia or sharia law...its encouraged in the quran...I believe that forcing women to wear/not wear a head scarf is kind of like forcing a nun to wear/not wear a cross...TO A LOT OF MUSLIM WOMEN HIJAB IS A SIGN OF THEIR FAITH AND COMPLIANCE TO GOD..IT ISNT ASSOCIATED WITH ANYTHING ELSE....
***** If you were a Muslim who opposed Sharia, you'd be a hypocrite. Why bother. Sharia is Islam.
***** Islam is fundamentally bad. All religions are such. Islam is worse on a practical level.
There is a quote along the lines of, the greatness of an individual is given by the size of the problems (s)he stumbles on. And this woman is able to drag a long philosophy about a fucking head scarf.
I must be lost or something. Please some one explain to me why exactly this video has so many dislikes.
I don't really have an opinion on the matter. However I believe all the dislikes are because her ideas are somewhat contradictory. She speaks of all her independent ventures and achievements as a woman and how she is equal to men in every aspect, and yet decides to wear a head scarf and conform to a religion that is extremely oppressive towards women.
That is why there are so many dislikes.
GlazedGamer You are correct she did make many valid points idiot.
I wasn't even arguing against her you damn fool. I was simply explaining why so many people are disliking this video. Do you have a different idea as to why they are disliking the video? if not please keep your idiotic comments to yourself.
The dislikes are partially from the very biases she talks about in this presentation
James Robinson GlazedGamer Take this for example. If a gay man who also identified as a christian were to give a talk on gay rights and talk about how gay men are equal to straight men in every way. Yet according to the Christian faith homosexuality is a sin. Even if he had extremely good points and they were very valid. Just like the Muslim lady in this video people would still not respect him because his faith contradicts his ideas. People wouldn't disrespect him because he is gay, or because he is christian, but because he is a gay christian.
Don't get me wrong I fully respect this woman and support her right to choose whatever kind of lifestyle she wants, but she shouldn't be surprised when she doesn't get the same kind of respect as other womens rights activists.
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exactly
I usually think "wow she's beautiful" cause seriously they always beautiful and i actually love this girl her speeches are Everything
You really hit the nail on the head, perceptions and prejudices truly blind the majority of us,including myself.
My grandmother was one of the first to get to play with the orchestra in Carnegie Hall!
Alicia Tucker There really was no problem in the old days if women wanted to play a musical instrument, or be in an orchestra or ensemble. There might have been some barriers professionally. But as a hobby, the ladies could play and love their music very openly. An accomplished lady in a Jane Austen novel was, I think, almost expected to have some proficiency on piano. Back in the 1800s.
Are there any hijab-wearing ladies in orchestras anywhere today? In the West? Are there any who feel free to take up music, the learning of a musical instrument? Has the lady speaker here ever tried her hand at the violin, piano, or guitar? Did she use the example of the orchestra and gender bias as a way to put into our head the idea that, just in case we that it's no complete surprise to us to know of hijabi-clad car mechanics, engineers and kickboxers, there are really complete surprises galore - that there are hijabi-wearing, violin-playing young ladies dotted here and there, dreaming of the day when you won't recoil from the sight of them in plain view. If only one can remove his unconscious bias!!
she deserved a better audience
The neckbeards have come out in full force if the amount of dislikes is any indication.
***** Yeah, the neckbeards have better weed.
Wormwood Unbound Not particularly, Anti-Islamic sentiment doesn't necessarily come from fedora wearing atheist neckbeards. In fact often these neckbeards refuse to fight the hard fight against Islam and would much rather bash the easy target that is Christianity, just like most "liberals"
Right. Now let's talk about womens right in Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia, the stonings, beheadings and gay people hanging on kranes because the sentence for being gay in this great islamic country is death. This girl should have a talk with Ayaan Hirsi Ali or any other brave person who left Islam and now has to fear for their life. Because leaving the religion is also leading to a deathsentence. And no judge is needed, every muslim is asked to fight people who are against Islam. It's in the Quran. Their prophet did it. Barbarism. And that's what i see when i see a hijab or a burka. I have friends all over the planet in all colors and languages and i see Islam as a threat to freedom and to be what i want. An Atheist.
u don't like beheading when u guys have the lethal injection and electric chair?! ur so confused
before u talk ... u sould read about what really islam means
Why gays? Islam believes it's forbidden to be muslim and to be gay, but if your not muslim, then you should be the person you want to be. And if any muslim comes up to you and says you are wrong, you just tell them that they are more in the wrong with ignoring one of the main rules of islam, and that is to mind your own busines. I love islam, because islam acknowledges the fact that there will be non muslims, and they made rules for muslims on how to live with them, and I love how islams mains rule is Let Them Be. Be friends with them, give them advise if you want to, invite them for dinner, because at the end when we die, we do die alone, and you will be taken accounted for what yóu did, not what your friend did, so spread kindness. It saddens me so much that the world and a part of the muslim community doesn't see that true islam.
The quran teaches: "When in war, do not kill those who run away, do not kill women an childeren, do not kill those who surrender, do not kill when when you have won, do not kill the wounded, do not kill the innocents."
"For if you have killed one human life, it will be like you killed all mankind. And if you saved ones live, it will be like you saved all humans live."
A proud muslim
So Mohammad was wrong killing the jewish tribe? Killing the woman who wrote a funny poem about your imaginary god? Makes no sense.
I really don’t like Yassmin’s assumption that seeing the hijab as oppressive means you have an unconscious bias or that you’re just ignorant.
I’ve been reading *Headscarves* *and* *Hymens:* *Why* *the* *Middle* *East* *Needs* *a* *Sexual* *Revolution* by muslim author Mona Eltahawy. The hijab perpetuates the idea that women only deserve respect if they dress in a way muslim men find modest. For so many this scarf is a physical manifestation of the victim blaming mentality that is so prevelant in many muslim countries. Men attack women, then say they shouldn’t have had their hair out. That’s why I don’t like the hijab, Yassmin.
agree your opinion
Hello there! What’s important to realize is that the hijab isn’t mandated for Muslim women for men and by men. It is a loving instruction for God, by God. :) This author may have an opinion, but it is not the word of God. Again, this is her opinion, so it doesn’t really have authority or truth in that absolute sense. I personally have not read her book, but based on what you think of it, a SOCIETY is oppressing women, not the hijab/mandate from God itself. Victim-blaming is absolutely unacceptable in Islam, both men and women do their part, and if men attack women or vice versa, of course they aren’t let off the hook because the women was showing her hair! That would be unjust, and even if a women is just completely naked, men must lower their gaze. That’s what I had to realize and I hope you realize it too! This is a really really brief response, but please consider looking into Islam from reliable sources, such as Yaqeen Insitute, and then form your opinion! God bless you and guide you to the beautiful path. ❤️ Goodbye! (Islam is a beautiful religion, and even though it gets bad press, give it a chance and look into the Quran and Sunnah! You’d be surprised)
Someone who looks like her walks past me on the street. What do I think about her? Personally. Little to nothing. Why should I? Is it normal to put a lot of thought into passing strangers on the street? But for argument sake, lets try to address her concern, that if someone were to see her they might type-cast her as a Muslim woman, when in fact she is "so much more" than that. So this person who's thought was basically "I see a Muslim woman", has now done something wrong because they didn't consider her full-potential. This seems to be the foundation of her talk and also of her general accusations of bias and prejudices that so many of us supposedly have. I am not seeing it.
I can tell you for sure, unconscious bias is what it's not. I am consciously, intentionally biased in my thoughts about your religious garment, and this thought process is correct, it has worked and not failed so far in my assumptions.
"Unconscious bias is a prevalent factor driving culture,"
Spin that argument around on your own culture, Yassmin .
This is so beautiful, honestly I'm not gonna lie this made me tear up a lot because I can relate to Yassmin Abdel-Magied in some particular ways❤❤such a beautiful speech and I love how she delivered it
It's amazing seeing Yassmin give such an inspiring speech on this platform. She might not remember though, but we've once had the chance to be in class together at IUA's ma'ad lugha in 2012. Even though we didn't have the chance to get to know each other better, for the little time I spent with you, I knew you are such an amazing, inspiring young lady of high intellect. I'm so proud of you yaa ukhtiy fiy deen.
This 7 years ago me commenting on this feels silly enough for me.
I was born into a Muslim family I know all about Islam and other versions of it around the world. I am an atheist now. If headscarf was a choice then people wouldn't be wearing it all the time what's this a uniform no it's your identity also your insecurity just because you were raised like that and you found comfort in that I don't say it's bad but it's nothing you can be proud about. Your point on prejudice is right I agree with that. You also have to keep in mind that when people see someone different they will stare that's not the right thing to do but it's only natural. Also once people were terrified of Muslims because of what the terrorists did. So you know how they can be biased. My last point Islam is religion which treats women like eye 🍬. That's what real Islam is. By time it evolved to outlive the criticism. People evolved but not Quran it's still with all that bullshit 😆
so why are u not muslim quran is word of god no other religion claims this except us, athiest is the worst religion to commit to how can u beleive there is no god u clearly grow up around bad people not reading and understanding the quran daily/ everyone week. may allah guide u my brother
I really don’t care what she does for a living or hobbies. I am Middle Eastern and from the Christian branch of my family. I have every right to be annoyed by Islam.
Does the Inquisition amuses you? May be the Crusaders? Or the modern Western Imperialism? Or WWI, WWII? Not to mention Hiroshima and Nagazaki?
عشتم بيننا في حريةٍ وأمانٍ وازدهارٍ اقتصادي أكثر من ١٤ قرناً، وما إن تسنح لكم الفرصة أو تنقلعون عند أسيادكم الغربيين حتى تبدو حقيقتكم القذرة المقيتة: أنتم الحاقدون الغدارون الكامنون بيننا كحيات التبن!
Why?
"what does my scarf mean to you?"
it means you have a scarf.... no that cant be right...
Hope more and more people will take it like a normal scarf.
What an amazing speaker and person. The amount of down votes says something very sad about our society.
Primalxbeast And with "our society" you mean the muslim world.
Primalxbeast She is a brainwashed moron. The amount of down votes is encouraging. Because it shows that people are not buying her BS.
Primalxbeast no, it means people are not stupid enough to listen to a brainwashed backward culture that has turned the middle east to a hellhole by just these type of BS beliefs that god will burn you if a man sees your hair
Jamal Piruzdelan Someone attempted to brainwash me once. I turned off the TV and I was ok, though.
Hassiri the khajiit A nice warm cave is a better option :) I don't mean a real cave of course, I mean the one that you can make in your head while you pray to Allah.But seriously, break free my friend don't let others to tell you what is right or wrong, use your good old human instincts that follows natural law of life and well being. There is no god that we know of, the whole universe is a grain of sand in an infinite desert.
through watching this video, i realized the exist of unconscious bias and acknowledge it. I will try my best to overcome it.
well said.. we can't be more proud
Islam is NOT about "we're better than you".
Islam is about "let me show you something BETTER FOR you." -Nouman Ali Khan-
Look, I respect other religions, please respect mine.
Thank you.
So if a Muslim leaves Islam to become a Hindu, what does Islam teach will happen to him when he dies?
Option two: The surgeon is a man. Heteronormativity is a bias, too.
AtheistPriestess Brilliant comment.
AtheistPriestess That's a lot of the problems with unconscious bias... we can be wrong even if we guess right for the wrong reasons... "oh, it's a man, and they're gay parents" ... well, you just found a way to circumvent sexist-bias for anti-hetero-bias... :(
These ideas of inherent bias are nothing new to scientists... you spend all your time convincing yourself that something is right, just to have it proved wrong, that you start doubting everything you believe...
In compsci it's even weirder, because it doesn't matter what you think the code says, it matters what the computer thinks your code says... nearly every single computer crash ever has been due to the programmer telling the computer to crash in this special case... it doesn't WANT to crash, but what choice does it have? It was programmed to regardless...
Bias is horrible, and there's very little we can do against it... Google's engineering pool is pretty close to the ambient pool of people available for the positions. (i.e. yes, they only have 7% women, but the graduation rate for women is 7% of compsci) ... they've done that by putting in numerous barriers against bias. Like, make up your standards before you interview (if you construct them post-hoc, you end up favoring your biases), ask the exact same questions of every candidate (it's very easy to ask harder questions of people you're already biased towards) and hiring from a committee that discusses the individual's merits, rather than just leaving it to a singular hiring manager.
AtheistPriestess SMACK!
That’s because the majority of people are straight
@@MattatYah1 They can, however, get married, have a surrogate, and one adopts the child as his own.
I read a lot of comments about don't judge, people do with biases or prejudices. And that is true. We do. And everyone here is saying I shouldn't judge a woman wearing a hijab and be biased against her, then you are taking that same advice if someone walks by with ripped pants or a shirt, right? Or if they wear a cross necklace. Its amazing how quickly we tell others not to judge certain groups, then turn right around and judge someone else we don't like.
I love the idea of mentoring someone different. Establishing rapport with another similar to oneself is an intuitive process toward which gravitation is expected, similar to striving for excellent academic or work performance in an field of study or area of content in which one has confidence on account of praise for natural ability or intelligence. Such emphasis placed upon supposed innate, a priori facility in certain areas, or in the case of the subject content discussed in this video: an emphasis upon what is most culturally comfortable and familial, douses curiosity thereby detracting from dialectic rumination.
Striving to assimilate a new skill is tantamount to establishing rapport with another of differing disposition and perspective . Doing so requires struggle, with which one is least interested, especially when led to believe optimal performance is a barometer for intelligence, and therefore under the impression that performance mastery may only be demonstrated via replication of comfortable, perfunctory procedures, intrinsic to self. Objectively, ease of interaction is certainly optimal when resting on laurels, however, advantage gained from enduring struggle and perhaps a modicum of suffering engenders far greater cognitive advantage by reinforcing synthesis of diverse concepts and subsequent development of empathy.
Business and social sciences 101: “Dress to impress”. If you dress like a bum, you`ll be treated like a bum. If you hide your face, nobody will be able to connect with you, and nobody will ever find out if you`re an engineer or a boxer. A minority group female dressed professionally will have a positive bias over a white male in ripped jeans.
What you wear is not a circumstance like gender, race or sexual orientation. Rather it is a choice.
I you feel misunderstood by the whole world, perhaps it`s not the whole world’s fault.
What you wear is part of your non-verbal communication. It can be neutral or it can be loud. If you feel obliged to dress a certain way due to your beliefs, it`s not unreasonable for the public to associate that behavior with fanaticism. Image is an stepping stone to success and happiness.
I thought everyone already knew that…
I loved your speech ..thank you so much ...you made us proud ...I look up to being like you
I agree with your idea.
You've just displayed your unconscious bias beautifully.
oppresion & ignorance, that's what your headscarf means to me.
I would be surprised if anyone told me they designed and drove their own race car, thats frickin cool why wouldn't you be surprised?
Diversity is magic, and opening doors to others is very important, I really found Yassmins speech interesting thanks for sharing your past experiences.
I believe that this speaker has done amazing things with her life. She has made them happen. This is what power inside us can do when the powers outside us want to suppress and oppress women.
Ms Magied falls in to a familiar trap. She assumes the public have an unconscious bias regarding her appearance. This is just classic projection. What she's actually doing is talking about her own biases and assumptions of people she doesn't know. It's likely no one thinks anything about her scarf because it's just a scarf. A sombrero, however, may provoke a more dramatic reaction. Ms Magied also suggests that her engineering and boxing activities would surprise people. Well it would. If I was reunited with a friend from school and he told me he was a race car engineer and a boxer, I'd be just as surprised. You don't meet boxers every fucking day do you? Unless you're married to Frank Bruno. If you're going to do a TED Talk in future, Ms Magied, please make sure you have a fucking point.
Nathaniel Spatchcock Its TEDx. Anything gets in.
I'm sorry but do you wear a scarf? Is this comment based upon personal experience?
Southern Gal A scarf? When it's chilly, yes. The comment is based on what the lady said in the video. Why do you ask?
I totally understand... I'm tired of people hailing me down and asking for emergency assistance! Just because I dress like a police officer, does NOT mean that I am a police officer!
This is a beautiful message, and whoever took it wrong or didn't want to understand it, its their problem, no matter what they comment or what they say, don't take it personally. It's their choice to act that way, it's their vision of the world. You don't have to explain yourself.
Imagine a woman giving a speech on right to wear what she wants in Saudi.
Vineeth Jose Saudi has nothing to do with Islam
li yiung if you wann now true Islam go to read and refer the Muslims Holly book English version so you will found the answer.
@@suzanmuhammed9643 Soon they'll be saying Islam has nothing to do with Islam.
Whenever i see such comments about saudi i know that most ppl think that islam is saudi arabia.. brother i m not saudi and i tell you if there is a non islamic regime on the planet it would saudi arabia.. so plz dont judge islam by looking at saudi arabia.... islam is the Quran.
@@liyiung3723 islam is not hamass and not isis and not me or 1.8 billion muslim on the planet... islam is the Quran. Because if islan said dont drink alcohool and some muslim did that represent him and not the Quran... so plz ppl grow up and be fair. If you take somone who never drove a car in his life and put him in the best car in the world and end up crushing it would you blame the car or the driver????? Ppl like you dont look for the muslims who live islam you look at ppl who have nothing to do with it. Grow up and learn more about somthing befor you open your mouth.
It's weird but I've had a deep association since I was very very small with hijabis being very approachable and helpful people, anything but oppressed. The first doctor I remember treating me was a hijabi, so that's probably why. I don't know why wearing a headscarf automatically makes you submissive and dependent in Western society, and I don't really wanna know.
Grace Sophia It shouldn't automatically mean that, so I do stand against banning of it. However, the association people make with submission and dependency is not an unfounded one. It sucks being a moderate on this issue.
***** O___o where did you learn such nonsense?EDIT: Nvm you're trolling.
G Tugcu How did you figure out that he was trolling?
And more importantly, how does one determine the difference between ignorance and trolling? *help me*
What about all those dislikes? Are those trolls? ignorant people? or other?
Steven S bruh you got me confused, are we talking about trolls here?
Grace Sophia it’s because in some cultures (countries) women are forced to wear it - in those countries the women really don’t have that many rights. It’s what happens when you mix culture into religion. But because of the media showing those countries it’s like hijab has become synonymous for oppression and submission.
"And what the world expects, and the way I'm treated, depends on the arrangement of this piece of cloth."
Yup, it does. And that's because you are basically yelling to everyone around you: "I'm religious. I believe in superstition."
I'm against all religions. This has nothing to do with you being a muslim, a woman, or whatever. It has something to do with you being religious, and presenting it, proudly. Just a disclaimer: I have nothing against you as person, but your believes are illogical.
I'm not going to pretend that I know if you were forced to wear your headscarf, or if you chose it yourself. For me, it's completely irrelevant.
The fact that you advocate religion, for me, is as irrational as you can be. We KNOW better today, thanks to science, and science only. Religion has done nothing, but prevent knowledge throughout history. It's standing in the way of progression in the world, and it's a barrier between different parts of the world.
There's no good reason to believe in it, and the fact that you do, and that you also advocate it, just goes to show how much research you have done yourself.
What all this basically boils down to, is that extradinary claims require extradinary evidence, and since religion as given not even ordinary evidence, you are advocating nonsense.
see that's the thing. WOOHOO be proud be an atheist but like Bro? why u gotta hate on others. like yes I getchu ok science is the way to go religions are irrelevant. doesn't mean u disrespect them. just like I'm respecting u fr ur beliefs, at least try to do the same 😬
Adeenah Tabani exactly online athiests are like vegans they have to let you know they are atheists and btw to whoever wrote the comment faith is to blindly believe in something you are convinced in so look at it scientifically defeats the purpose
As a Sudanese Im proud of you
women that don that garb to me look like slaves to some kind of patriarchal order. I'm not surprised of her accomplishments but I find it puzzling that any woman would voluntarily want to wear that. a religion with a dress code and all the rules puzzles me, why would a woman choose or stay in that is beyond me. I was forced wear a uniform and to go to catholic school I hated it and saw it for the repressive mythology that it is. art is my religion so I am no stranger to different kinds of people and I respect other people's process but I don't relate to any traditional religious person I don't care what the outfit is.her message is important and I think putting light on unconscious bias is a great thing to bring to light so thank you.
people should watch the whole video before commenting after the fist minute.
Karen Diaz why, even taking the time to listen to what if you listen to enough of this kind of propaganda you will know is going to be just another swipe at how the West is horrible and the religion or peace adherents are such poor victims and have to the right to kill if they are disagreed with.
I know already I can never accept Islam, just as I could never accept certain branches of Christianity or Judaism ... if they had over a billion people held captive to their militant way of thinking.
justgivemethetruth She works on an oil rig, and designed race cars for one
justgivemethetruth ....and you prove her point XD
justgivemethetruth I know and as an atheist I already have a biased against religion. However, it doesn't mean that I can't look past that and see the person, and where they are coming from. She not being preachy about her religion; she is saying she is more than her religion, which I do appreciate.
Just because I am an atheist I can't look into other religions just for knowledge sakes. There is really no excuse not too. I also understand that if you're part of some other religion (at times) they condone looking into other religion and if you're found out; you will be shunned or ostracize from family and friends. But, as an atheist I have no excuse not too because their is nothing stopping me to appreciate someone else's point of view.
Bigdawgphilleep I bet you she doesn't let her religious views dictate her perception of people. Otherwise that would contradict her point in this video.
Regardless the question of the hijab itself, this is a very inspiring speech brilliantly delivered with a real solution. Thank you ! We are all subconsciously biased in one way or another. It's inevitable but we can learn to go past it and help and open up to other people that are different. It does seem like the best way to live in a peaceful society.
This womam is amazing and should be an idol to many.
SURELY YOU JEST🤪🖕
I love your power, strength, quirks, diversity, and extremely necessary message. Many blessings to you!!! Amazing presentation!!
Haha😂 she the most hated person by true Aussies
Incredible, emotive & thought provoking. Love this!
Kelli Vance The video was not about religion...Think you have clearly missed the point.
this is not my post - but it still relevant, copypasta from Shabadadoo
Shariya, is taken directly out of the Quran and Hadith. It is the commands given by Muhammad on how to exist in a society by murdering them! You mean this is Feminism??? Quran (4:34) - "Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, Quran (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them"
Quran (33:33) - "And abide quietly in your homes..." - Kinda hard to let women drive if they're aren't even allowed to leave their homes now, can they! KSA is the only country ACTUALLY following the rules! Quran (4:11) - (Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females" (see also verse 4:176). In Islam, sexism is mathematically established.
Quran (2:282) - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women."Quran (5:6) - "And if ye are unclean, purify yourselves. And if ye are sick or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it. - Meaning women are dirtier than actual dirt! 10th Lie - It's Cultural?? ROFL You do realize that women in the UAE, OMAN< Kuwait, Pakistan, India, Iran, Afghanistan, are all wearing a cloak in 40 degree temperatures right?? Because they're governed by their men who are governed by this Fluid Shariya you talk of. Muslim women do take their husbands name, not the last name, but the first name! You know why? Because a woman can be traded between a father and a son, and therefore a woman need to be clearly identified as to whose property she is. Quran 33:37 ..............So, when Zayd had come to the end of his union with her (and she had completed her period of waiting after the divorce), We united you with her in marriage, so that there should be no blame (or legal impediment) for the believers in respect of (their marrying) the wives of those whom they called their sons (though they really were not), when the latter have come to the end of their union with them. And God's command must be fulfilled.She's stupid.
Quran (33:59) - "Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them..." Men determine how women dress.I don't know who educated her, she thinks by throwing in the Middle eastern accent that she will be taken seriously?
SAMMY Just amazing she deserves a minutes silence for this
Very emotive. And a woman is a fan of it. What a surprise.
it means that she supports political islam, an ideology represented by boko haram, isil, and al quaeda. also she is a women deciding to be supressed by a religion that supresses women. it is not unconscious bias. we know the headscarf stands for islam, and islam wants world domination.
Islam isnt reprisentented by boko haram. There are many branches of islam some brilliant some disgusting you cant just say that the most extrime version of ANY group reprisents their majority . Germans arent reprisented by Hitler , russians arent reprisented by Stalin the jews arent reprisented by Israel who bombs civilians . Islam has over a billion followers you cant just say a couple thousand people define who they are . I bet you only know a couple people who are muslim if any. I live in Turkey where almost everyone is muslim and even though I am not religious myself and I can tell you that there are many religious people who are the sweetest people you'll meet who do not have an intend of 'taking over the world'. They just want to live their lives in peace and want everyone else to do so.
Ayça Kutlu So -how many of your friends are openly gay.?
Ayça Kutlu YESS!!
Knut Lyd I live in a country 1 hour away from Saudi and I have 3 Arab friends who are openly gay, and 1 who is openly a lesbian.
kurtilein3 someone didn't watch the video
I had a classmate in High School, Muslim girl that we talk and joked around in class. They were no attraction for neither of us, especially her, it was strictly classmate where two like to joke around and laugh. She was a brilliant student, who had no concern of what other students think of her apparel. Now can this happen in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, or even Afghanistan? NOOOO!!! Yassmin should be grateful of the opportunities she has in Australia. Why force Australia into enforcing a religious law, Sharia Law when everything is fine. Sharia Law will prevent Muslim women to be in Yassmin's shoes. Be grateful to be on a land of opportunities.
A headscarf to me signifies oppression. Women were forced to cover their faces, the only person who could see her face was her husband. This was so that other men wouldn't be tempted by her looks. Women are then lied to & told that it signifies honor. It signifies sexism. A woman not being allowed to show her face, plain & simple. If a woman betrayed that rule, her life was threatened. You can call it religious all you want but it is still sexism. Beauty is power, a woman's right, & because men were threatened by that they forced all the women to hide their faces. When you threaten someone's life if they don't wear it, it stops being a fashion statement. It's also written in the Bible that women should wear hijabs or headscarfs when praying because they weren't created in god's image, men were, so women's heads need to be covered. As if that makes any sense.
What it represents is this: that men cannot fundamentally control their sexual urges when they see exposed hair. That is the reasoning within the scriptures. If the reasoning were different or even if there was no reason, I think it would not represent patriarchy. I’d like to discuss and explore this opinion however with anyone who would like to offer alternative views. Dialogue is key to true understanding. ✌️
The number of people commenting without watching the video is both appalling and proves her point perfectly. I'm really disappointed in the TED audience.
Sister Yassmin, you're an amazing woman!! Great talk!!
YOU GO GIRL!
This was so inspirational. You go girl!
sure i think so
of course,her speech is really good
Cringe
Wait wait wait, diversity is one thing, but it's VERY important that we are put into our positions based on our abilities and merit of our character rather than our identities
This still did not address the question of weather the hijab is worn as a sign of subjugation, or freely. We are taught that you are as ladies second rate, subjugated, and either do as you are told without freedom or are shot if you refuse male authority or the wearing of the head scarf. After listening to you I still do not know why it is worn. This is important to know. Are we told correctly by the US or not. This should have been addressed.
You are on the Internet. There are innumerable resources on here that answer your exact question. If you truly care to find the answer, go search for it. You can also approach a woman wearing hijab and ask her.
I loved this talk! She's so funny and honest.
if muslims and ME love living in certain way, why hate? oh god Earth is for every one.
TheAmbitious10 There is nothing wrong with that ... everyone has a right to choose what they believe in.. it is more the preaching to other people to 'revert' to Islam that people hate on more... and the superiority complex that ALL (not just Islam) religions have... causes more hate then anything ... this includes people within the same religion i.e. different casts, practices, etc.... and people from different religions i.e. beliefs, values, etc..
ppl used to live in harmony with different beliefs , until the greed of certain ideologies some constitutions preached let us judge each other based on race religion etc. leading us to hate and kill each other.
TheAmbitious10 not muslims
buddy77587 see your discrimination act is not you fault and the muslims fault too we learn through out the time to hate and not expect good from the other.
TheAmbitious10 People never lived in harmony. Ever.
Why don't the guys wear them then ? And what if I walked up to you wearing one all 6 foot 4 of me. Would you not feel uneasy, intimidated?
Can someone please explain the dislike ratio because I think she was being pretty fair & neutral in this.
People, be kind. If you have nothing nice to say, restraint from the comment. You all said TED has running out of topic, but then again all the negative comments below prove why this kind of topic need to be addressed.
The infamous vulnerable talk also come from TEDx but it made to the TED channel, because how beautiful the talk is.
Try to listen, really listen, the messages are so beautiful. Hope you at least can learn from this.
I don't think it's unconscious bias? I think it's because people do have some knowledge of Islam, and while anything could be true, I think it's reasonable that because you choose to wear the scarf, the assumption is that you have traditional views which entail being a wife and mother.
Yassmin. The scarf means precisely that to people, which they associate it with. In Europe they oftentimes associate it with people who have come in in large numbers, who abuse the financial system, are unwilling to assimilate into the countries they have freely walked into, who isolate themselves, beat their children in closed settings and let their youth run wild and make society unsafe. Then we see scarfs in the connection with news, which is always about failed states or areas where women are ill treated and democracy is only a dream. Moslems themselves, both in the islamic countries and in Europe explain their asocial behaviour by pointing to their religion. So if you want people to associate something positive with the scarf you yourselves must do everything you can to teach muslims everywhere to act in a respectful manner, promoting equal rights, freedom of speech and religion etc. I used to not have any bad associations when seeing a scarf. Now over the last 30 years that has completely changed, as it has in generel society. Don't blame anyone else for this, than those who give your religion a bad name. And stop bullshitting by calling valid criticism of islam for "racism" etc. It only futhers the alienation.
Why all the dislikes!? I thought it was a very enlightening talk, not-to-mention enjoyable too.
Harry Bickerstaffe It just shows you that not all who watched it, thought as you did.
Harry Bickerstaffe Ignorant people I guess
Maria A disagreement =/= ignorance
Maria A Difference of opinion does not equal ignorance. Your thinking itself is actually pretty ignorant.
Benjamin Wood I agree, not everyone should think one way... I was flabbergasted by how many people have a problem with either the (mostly) factual things stated or the way in which it was presented!
Since you ask, your headscarf means far more to you than to others, despite YOUR bias to the contrary. If anything, you flouting your hijab is tantamount to the person who wears his or her religion on his or her sleeve. You wear it on your head. So wear it, already, and Get Over Yourself.
Keep in mind that Yassmin on the Australian ABC QandA show on Mon, 13 Feb 17 , in response to the question 'What about equal rights for women?' said 'Islam to me is, is the most feminist religion. Right. We got equal rights well before Europeans.' Her demeanour was self-rightous and condescending.
Ah... As usual, the illness spreads. Everyone talks about how "Muslims are such terrible people! Just look at woman's right in Saudi Arabia!" Or "This girl is speaking unfairly. She talks about her clothing that she wears in here but what about the clothes I want to wear in Muslim Countries? What is her problem?" Or how about "I dare her to say that in Saudi because then she'll have a completely different reaction." If you hate Muslims so much, then why would you dedicate your time for them? All you people do is talk about how it's so bad and how this lady is an idiot when she actually has the courage to stand up in front of the crowd and share her opinions. I dare one of you to go up there and talk about how Muslims are terrorists or how we are so ignorant or what ever. You can spread you're rumors but you can't change any of us because we have pride. We have faith in our religion and we are all proud to be a part of Islam. We are proud and nothing you can say can change that.
Her important message is overshadowed by her annoyance delivery, contradicting examples and privileged position.
I am a fan of this women by just seeing 1 minute of this video
@Sam Yates you KILLED IT !
imagine the same speech but its a Mexican guy in a GIANT SOMBRERO!.. and he's all like.. "when i walk around the park and the sidewalk, people only see the ENORMOUS MEXICAN STYLE SOMBRERO on my head!" 🔥💣💥
"...what they don't see is who i am inside..."
Not people in the comments judging her while watching her video about people judging her. 🤨