Hailie Deegan and AM Racing Part Ways: What's Next for Her Career?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
- In this episode of the Dale Jr. Download, Dale Jr. and TJ Majors dive deep into the recent news of Hailie Deegan and AM Racing parting ways. They discuss Josh Berry's upcoming drive at Pocono and Joey Logano's involvement at Chicago. The conversation shifts to Hailie Deegan's career prospects, her talent, and the challenges she faces in finding the right opportunities to progress. TJ shares his experiences working with Hailie, highlighting her potential and the need for more support and experience in different series. Dale Jr. provides a critical look at the financial pressures on young drivers and how it impacts their career decisions. The episode also touches on the effect of the COVID-19 pandemic on Hailie's early NASCAR career and the importance of timing and support in building a successful racing career.
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Dale is down the Earth so honest he sees the good and talent in people this is why people respect him and honor him he says it with kindness
He isn't honest here. He's just being nice.
@@Ka_GgCry harder.
@@garyjackson3531 im not crying.
I just see a guy that owns a Xfinity team simultaneously not hiring her while saying she's very talented. Doesn't quite make much sense.
Sorry if reality hurts your feelings.
@@Ka_Gg Except you're missing the part where Hailie is signed as a Ford development driver, and JR Motorsports fields Chevys, so he couldn't hire her even if he wanted to.
@@DaMan87 So many people out there with zero racing experience think they got this all figured out... You are spot on.
You could hear on the radio during the Chicago race, Joey wasn't just telling the crew chief what was going on with the car, but also telling him how to adjust it, so even if Halie knew how to articulate what was going on, sounds like they were guessing on how to fix it
That's a huge difference right there.
She had a different crew chief earlier in the year and was terrible with him as well
She doesn’t know what the car is doing because she don’t know what she’s doing.
Nice try, but that doesn’t explain her lack of success in ARCA and the Truck Series also. Nor her lack of success earlier in the year in Xfinity with a different crew chief.
That is what I heard also. If that is the case she was on the wrong team. Maybe Brian needs to start a team up.
A few years when she was on the Dale Jr podcast Kelly and Dale told her to not to worry about rushing up the ladder. Kelly knew then and i recall watching that episode and believing she was not as talented as what everyone wanted to believe. Even with that advice from Kelly Earnhardt the Deegan camp did the exact opposite and here we are.
@@JBBooks-qv2kp all the more reason for Kelly and Dale to bring her in play her that video then tell her we want to make you a champion trust us to teach you everything we can.
From what I've seen she doesn't listen to anyone but her fiance. That's part of why she got into this bad situation
Yup exactly. If she focused more on her driving etc instead of social media and actually have someone that says no to her, instead of a yes person. She would be in a lot better position.
@@RussellTurman wrong joey literally had to tell the CC t set up the car mid race thats a problem not a driver issue
@@dirtlord5257 wrong denny literally is on SM all the time that 15 car is pure garbage
Dale hit the nail on the head when it comes to Hallie's career and choices
I agree with both perspectives. I hope Hailie lands on her feet with a team that can be patient with her in this new machine and be able to facilitate her growth. The lady has talent!!!
Seems like yesterday she was winning those arca races. We thought she might be the real deal. It just didn't pan out.
@@rvegasguy_5216They rushed her to Xfinity IMO. She needed a few more years in trucks.
@@rvegasguy_5216she used racing to become an influencer and build her brand.
not at the top level she doesn't have what it takes.
What talent?
It was great listening to TJ coach Hailie as a driver while he was her spotter in Trucks. Losing that definitely hurt her performance in trucks, and this highlights how a skilled driver may not be able to articulate what they need to a team that may not know how to provide it
Yup. My biggest asset when entering a new car/series was my spotter almost more than my crew chief. Sucks she's got no one whose really invested in her for her sake.
I think the comparison would be a young solid QB out of college gets drafted by a team who is not considered a contender and does not have a lot of experience with winning and what it takes to win and they expect him to make them a winner. When he doesn't they trade him claiming he isn't a winner. See it is easier to do that instead on focusing on how can the team get better by that QB gaining experience both on the field and at the same time the coaching improves which will assist in his development. I guess we will see if that team's performance improves much. I am betting they will see some improvement at times but will continue to struggle most weeks.
Wow…guess what??
Dale Jr. & TJ Majors together in studio was great chemistry 🏁🏁
Now the show has back that substance it was missing after MD left!
I’m glad that he pointed out the circumstances to everyone and not saying she’s a bad driver. Everyone wants her to succeed and there are companies that want to fast track her success so they can ride on it. Too hard, too fast. Who has the financial patience to give her the time and experience to be successful?
100%, you could see that. You could tell that the team really didn't have the experience to really help her. Listen to the conversation on the video's, they didn't know much more then she did.
She had a great team in the truck series and she did terrible. It’s her it’s not the teams or the equipment
MAYBE SHE DIDNT HELP THOSE TEAMS
@@Dailysweeper DGR was a second-tier team, owned by a 3rd rate driver.... How exactly is a team known for running mid-pack a "great team"?
@@aaronthomas6155 I’m not talking about dgr
Probably the best explanation I’ve heard so far that she didn’t have the experience in the car to tell her crew what she needed to make the car better 👍
According to reports from Chicago, the AM Racing doesn't have the experience or knowledge necessary to operate a race team. When a driver has to explain to the team how to physically make the adjustments he's asking for, there's a huge problem.
Thanks Jr, people might actually listen to you. AM Racing commited to a new team dynamic, with Deegan as the driver. They produced a car that ran 2 sec slower, a pit crew that pulled off many 18 sec pit stops, and a crew chief that was not ready to be a crew chief. Logano did ok, but practiced and qualified the car not much better than Deegan averaged. His experience brought the car up to 8th. Did you hear about the crew chief he had at Chicago? He was asking the driver how much tire pressure he needed to put in. As far as last year, Moffett had a different crew and crew chief. You simply can't compare the old to the new. AM Racing misrepresented the end goal to Deegan. It's that simple. It was so bad a situation that even Jeff Burton was calling her "afraid" at Iowa while on TV.
Thank you for taking the time to dive into Hailie's current situation. It's looking like she got the raw end of the deal here. Hopefully her National Series career isn't over. I would love to see her back in a better situation. She clearly needs a quality mentor in her corner.
Deegan has the raw talent to be successful, but raw talent can only get you so far. You have to listen to the people who have been there and have the knowledge and experience to refine that raw talent. I personally do not think Jr would have had the success he did if it wasn't for Dale Sr having him drive in the Busch Series for 2 yrs before bringing him up to Cup. Also, I don't see Jr taking a chance with her at this stage of her career. I think he learned a valuable lesson with Danica Patrick when she drove/ wrecked for Jr Motorsports.
raw talent lmfao. Only reason anyone even talks about her is because of who her dad is.
Money can get you there, but it won't keep you there.
Best comment here.
Larson went to Ganassi without a dime. However, he had millions in talent.
@@raylewis1355 and he’s also an extremely rare case. Even Stewart admitted that money is getting seats and not talent. Look at Bubba Pollard.
Well it sure is keeping Corey Lajoie in a cup car 😂
I wish I could drive her car one lap. I know I wouldnt be one that needs training...... you either got it or not!!!
@@DeerPlot😂
didn't she leave toyota? I know Toyota is known for fostering young talents and have a good development program. That's her own doing. no tears from me.
She was offered big money from Ford. Big promises too.
I think Brett said it best on DBC; the other drivers don’t race Joey the way they race Hailie.
because Joey wasn't running in the back with them like Hallie either. If she would run upfront, they wouldn't. And to her defense AM racing has no business in NASCAR at any level.
lol she has been in the back not racing anyone. lol
@andytn6507 FYI the car was junk Joey spent most of the Chicago race 15-25 until the last stage when they got the car better. No one wrecked Joey because they know better if it was hailie she wouldn't of had 2 stages to figure it out someone would have wrecked her.
@@jeremyunderhill3203 That team is junk. Hallie was set up for failure.
@@andytn6507 agree 👍
Thank you for your respectful discussion about Hailey. I have really enjoyed listening to her channel over the last few years. As they taught her, i also learned a lot about racing.Other channels are not so respectful, and they bring in the fact that she is a woman and she doesn't belong in this man's world.
You and Kelly are the best thing I don't think you would regret it because I think Hailie will perform great for you guys I think you guys would think perfectly together I wish it would happen
Dale sign her start her with the cars tour and teach her what you know.
My thoughts as well. It he feels that way, why doesn’t he sign her?
@@GregAllenF1 because she is signed with ford
She’s signed with Ford and JRM is Chevy.
@chloe-stephlis6281 then they are contractually responsible for finding her another ride or let her move on to other options.
You took the words right outta my mouth!
The crew chief at am racing didn’t know how to adjust tire pressure. I think it was a combo of both her inexperience and the teams inability to do their job
LOL! Didn't know how to adjust tire pressures???
My simple ditch ditching ass knows how to adjust tire pressures. Guessing her crew chief does too...
Try again....
@codymoe4986 If you have the chance listen to the radio communication between Logano and her CC, Logano had to explain exactly what he needed and how to adjust it. It's no wonder she didn't improve
That conversation has been taken way out of context (thanks Reddit!). The crew chief and Joey were going back and forth at various potential changes for making the car better, and Joey chimed in giving his opinion.
You really think any Xfinity team would hire a crew chief that doesn't know how to adjust tire pressure? Come on now, you're not that dumb, are you?
@@13Mizzou She was never any good in trucks and was lacking in ARCA. There are others drivers with bad crew chiefs too and yet they outperform their equipment. This is the team that has taken a drastic step back since they ditched Moffitt. Don’t even.
also didn't know which way to turn the jack screws for the effect wanted
Great discussion - well done. In a past time and place, Woods Brothers would be the right path
I am HD fan, and thank you for not tearing her down like all the other channels. Other NASCAR Fans should listen to qualified individuals like both if you.
Double E and man of ice especially
Being honest about a person isn’t tearing them down lol
@@Grundle_ItcH085 Except none of the hacks are being honest. Here was real, honest, constructive criticism from actual racers. That's a huge difference.
@@garyjackson3531 lol, you think these guys are gonna be brutally honest? Bottom line, she’s not good enough! Why is that so hard to grasp!? She’s a young attractive female so she’ll get another shot lol
@Grundle_ItcH085 Dude, if she gets another shot. Sheesh. It's just gonna be a repeat, cause we all know she ain't going to a top tier team in Xfinity. She had her shot with a top tier team in trucks.... and we all swa what happened there.
Absolutely on point.. Hailey is bad fast.. BUT.. She needs a team that can not only set up her ride but a crew that can guide her when it comes to how to drive the setup.. Much love and Thanks so much for Sharing
Looks to me that AM does not have the patience or ability to grow a rookie driver into a race winner.
I predicted that when she signed with them last year, they were a mid field team that once in a blue moon runs in the top ten but they are in that bunch that likes to run 11-20 consistently and when Deegan didn't have issues, thats what she ran. Unless they hire a Cup driver, thats all that team can ever expect to do in Xfinity.
Yeah, winning and being successful is needed these days to stay running.
@@conrailman And that was the case with DGR in the truck series as well. They typically ran mid-pack or worse, but seemed to expect Deegan to jump in the truck and immediately start running up front.
Im a big fan of hers, and wish her well. I also think she needs to get away from Ford
I really appreciate yall talking about this a lot of great points made during this and i agree she's amazing for the sport would definitely hate to see her go somewhere else
How is she amazing for the sport?
I have no issue what gender, color you are. If you can run up front then good for you. If you can’t , move on. She is in that move on stage. How are you amazing running in the back, or crashing.. Hundreds have come before her and hundreds will come behind her. Face the facts, she’s not that good.
@@Ever443 amazing in the sense that she can bring new eyes to the product
@@Ever443 she has good marketability
hundred have come for her? I can honestly say over history I probably could less than a dozen NASCAR stars that were female that in itself is a seat accomplished by very few women and of all the millions of young men only a few hundred have ever ventured into a NASCAR top series so I guess I don’t get your point
@@Ever443She is great for the sport because she has relevance beyond the old school die hard nascar fans. Most drivers, even the successful ones, are not well known and that’s why nascar is more niche now than ever. NASCAR should encourage drivers to do more than hold a coke, thank the sponsors, thank the sponsors, mention xfinity internet… repeat every week
TJ brings so much to a podcast. 👏👏👏
Oh man, JR and TJ. I'm in, this would be almost as good as Mike being there.
It'll never be as good as Mike being there.
@@BkBk-gy6vr I agree, it hasn't been the same since.
I hope she gets a good opportunity very soon.
If they have the funding,the need to get a coach/setup or evaluation driver to work with her to help her learn what to feel .
Agree, but she is her biggest obstacle. If she wants to be competitive in racing, she needs to put down the camera and get her but in the shop with the team every day. Until she does that and puts in the effort and time, she will be a driver of the past quick.
@@andytn6507💯🎯, I think she already is a driver of the past.
@andytn6507 The camera is part of the job. If you aren't working for your sponsors and promoting your brand, then you won't have a ride, no matter how good you are.
She needs a team that isn't junk, and actually cares about driver development. Looks like AM saw that sweet Ford money and grabbed some, without caring about putting in the work. They knew they were getting a rookie. They didn't hold up their end of the bargain.
@@andytn6507 Her Husband runs her TH-cam channel , he part of her issues
@@garyjackson3531
AM is a SHR Xfinity partner. Which is, as Junior and TJ discussed, exactly like the one off car she drove with a make shift crew in Vegas last season to a 13th place finish that gave her the idea that she wanted to move up, and so the logical move was to have an entire year of SHR aligned cars to race with a team that works with SHR and with Ford for her success, but then there's the driving part!
I think this has been the most accurate, fair , and true comment about this situation. Alot of the comments in other forums have been really brutal and just pure hating on her and This is what is really going on . Dale Jr is my favorite driver and his opinion , and tj major are spot on.experienced driver experienced spotter. Hailie is a major talent . She needs to see this and follow these 2 guys advice.
@babayaga8045 Haliee is not a "major talent", in NASCAR racing.
So you are giving crap to the people who are critical of her. Will you do the same thing to the people who acted like she was phenomenal before she even gotten into NASCAR?
The people that were most critical of her over the last several years have been far more right than all these people that are scared to be honest about the situation
Major talent. Lmao.
I like how you guys keep talking about that but you don't talk about the results she has had an Xfinity or the truck series. At this level she is not a major talent at all.
Jesse Love is a major talent. Austin Hill is a major talent. Hocevar is/was a major talent. Etc
@@Ka_Gg Yeah, it's crazy how far delusional some (a lot!) of the Haliee Deegan apologists are in making excuses for her lack of any decent overall results.
@@Ka_Gg Well she was winning championships in Lucas oil offroad trucks so she might have just a little talent lol
So what about the other younger (than Deegen) drivers who have found success in Trucks and Xfinity ? Whats the argument for their success ?
Exactly
I agree. She was in the truck series for a while and wasn’t successful. Why would a team hire a driver, and not guide their driver to be successful.
They're race car drivers, that's the difference.
@@timchilders3535 😃
They're not driving Ford inexperience teams😮
Great answer!
I think Hailie needs a good patient teacher to help her along. She has talent but she needs time to learn to talk to the crew on what her car needs.
That's the problem she don't know what the car needs or what she needs she don't know how to tell them what she needs
@jerryscray1789 yes but with time she could learn
@@jerryscray1789 pretty much, thats one of the downsides of going from stadium trucks to asphalt. her way of driving/setup she wants might not make sense to the teams as well and you can hear it sometimes where she'll explain something she doesn't like. but i definitely think doing the micro stuff she's doing now with Chase is definitely helping her understand setups. i just think everyone believed the kool-aid that AM racing was spewing to try to get her there for the extra sponsor money but it never ended up being what they promised. along with too many bone headed mistakes by the team multiple weeks in a row. that being said i still think she's better off in xfinity than in the truck series.
@sirmonkey1985 but if she don't understand the car then she can't tell them what she needs. As far as the micro sprints is she helping to set up the car so she understands what does what or is she just leaving it up to chase
What she needs is a driving coach that's made the transition from dirt to pavement and had some degree of success.
Driving the micro-sprint is fine. It helps with vehicle control and running in a tight pack. It does nothing to help her with learning how to setup a racecar, or how to adjust a racecar. It also does nothing to help her understand what the car is doing, or what she's feeling. Micro-sprints work completely different from an Xfinity car, or a CTS Truck or an ARCA car. They're not much more than larger go-karts with more power.
But what was she supposed to do? They signed her to a three-year contract They didn’t even honor the three-year contract because after 12 or 13 races, they decided that she was no good when they according to report pursued her. You had to know after the three or four races that she couldn’t give them the proper feedback that they needed to help her so somebody should’ve been able to come in and help her.
They did her dirty for sure
Didn’t Joey have to explain how to get the car PSI correct or something like it at the Chicago race ? And it seems both FORD and Toyota rush divers than Chevy does.
@@kharnthebetrayer1575 if she was not ready, that means a.m. racing did not do their research enough when they hired her either way they should’ve let her finish out the year so she could’ve gotten there at least some of that experience instead of just 12 to 13 races
@@kevinpratt8476 I agree.
I equate Chevrolet to the New York Yankees. They’re both powerhouse organizations that don’t need to “develop” drivers. They seem to pluck other teams development drivers simply because they’re so good. Name 3 drivers that Chevy has developed that are now cup superstars.
2 things, because her last name is Deagan, she is used for the publicity and lots of people think she is given everything because of her name and if they knew the family they would see that she has earned most of what she has gotten. Reguardless of her racing career, its in her genes to be a successful buiseness owner. She will be successful somewere.
If she is so “incredibly” talented then there would be a ride for her. Incredibly talented is a Larson. She should have stayed back in the one of the other series and become a top talent.
Deegan is talented, but needs to be with a good team that knows how to develop talent. AM Racing isn't a good team.
That’s why she did good in srx . As much as srx was a race all the drivers talked . And David streeme seem to work with the drivers on adjusting those cars .
One of the things you hear on the radio traffic for her is keep in the back and go for it last stage, if you're racing, you're running 110% the whole time to get that experience imo, everyone else is.
That's what sucks about stage racing
Just run 1 race not stages. Don't make no sense
❤, the show.
I am so glad you two, specifically you two, gave your take on the situation and Halie's capability. It is something I believed was true but really have no way of verifying it. Thank you! 👍
Your such a simp lol
She failed in everything she raced, what else do you need to see.
Somebody with actual knowledge and experience in racing and her abilities, which is what this video provides. Thanks for your input.
Keep going Hailie we're behind you 👍🇺🇸
Bravo!! Well deserved understanding and encouragement from a racing legend!! Showing NASCAR ❤
Hey Jr… you have a garage full of cars! Slide her right in one😂 I hear she has her own sponsor!
If her dedication was with racing like she does on TH-cam maybe she would still have a ride.
Her TH-cam channel is run by Chase & others around her. Her TH-cam exposure is appealing for sponsors. Sponsors are necessary to land deals in competitive teams. Her TH-cam sells merchandise, which can be reinvested into her racing. As Dale and the team are saying, experience is the only missing piece now.
Nope. You have to have a large social media presence and a multi million dollar personal sponsor to get a seat in NASCAR. No youtube, no ride.
@@ryanharris7295 These hillbillies don't understand marketing and are just grasping at straws, looking for excuses to attack the kid.
It's really childish.
@@garyjackson3531 Childish is not looking at the facts...she is below average
Thanks for this video. TJ echoed the points that I've posted to all the Hailie haters that she needed coaching from a much more skilled driver or crew chief on what she needs to be looking for in the car, in herself to get better qualifying and race results. I think she should go to a racing school or find some series that she can grow outside NASCAR's anal practice and testing Rules
Deegan advanced from full time ARCA to full time Xfinity in less time than a lot of people advance from one ARCA to trucks.
Although there are a million ways to skin a cat, I'd personally like to see her move back to ARCA and work on her race craft. She was a contender in that series, and having the ability to run up towards the front would allow her time to gain experience in other aspects to help her overall improve her race craft, as opposed to the Truck and Xfinity series where she was often being enveloped in the pack, and spent a lot of time just trying to see the checkered flag.
Learning to swim is a lot easier when you're not drowning.
Also, Budweiser Select 55 is my new beer of choice. lol. Thats all.
She and other rookies who came in around 2020, never got the same opportunities as every driver before them with practices, qualifying and all that hands on experience either, which was detrimental to their careers. It would be nice to see her get another chance, but I feel like after seeing Joey put up an 8th, this may have been her last real chance to shine.
Come on now , we are talking a veteran vs. A rookie . No comparison. She deserves another shot with a experienced team
@@user-nu7tt3hj8fexactly!
@@user-nu7tt3hj8fshe don’t deserve anything. She don’t put the time in through the off season and days up to the races, she is more worried about her TH-cam and her dirt racing, she showed no sign of potential at all this year.
@Dailysweeper and do you have proof she don't put the time in ? Her TH-cam and Dirt racing is a huge part of getting her sponsors names to the public which is why she gets those sponsors . I'll bet AM racing will be struggling to get any sponsorship money now . All of the money she brought in is leaving now I'm sure . I hope a decent team picks her up and puts the right resources behind her and let's her develop. No one in America deserves the blessings we get from God everyday but they still come . Whatever door opens for Hailee will be opened by God and the ones that close will be closed by God !!
@Dailysweeper I guess you can get in a xfinity car and in 12 races be running in the top 10 or 15 ? If it was that easy we all would be in NASCRAP
She should go late model racing and learn about setup so she doesn't need to rely on someone else. She did pretty well in ARCA but wasn't there very long before she got up to trucks and Xfinity.
I was at Portland sitting in turn one chicain, she was like 10 miles an hour slower than everybody else going though there almost stopping. why she was a lap down just over half way.
It takes awhile to get adjusted with a cup car, some have it and some don't. She needs time and Jr could give that to her if hired.
Offroad where she isn't used as a marketing puppet
Ha....!!!
nope
Marketing is her thing, shes not a puppet, shes the boss when it comes to social media.
I'm sure Hailey would benift greatly with some JRM suport, and it would open up a new fan base for JRM. Sounds like a win win situation to me. Maybe put her in the Car's tour for a few races? But first, and formost Hailey needs to be in a Chevrolet!
Except she's signed with Ford as a development driver.
@@the_keen_edge * Hailie
Does Hailey's team have a test driver like factory test riders in supercross to help set up the car guys who have experience get the car competitive but don't race?
Ama racing didn't and they don't even know how to set up the car or fix it. Joey had to tell them how to fix it
I'm so glad that he has the perspective to see that this isn't just a Halie situation. There is no doubt that she has talent, much like almost every driver that's ever set foot in the top 3 series.
Another driver who had a forgettable Xfinity drive, awkwardly so for JR, was Ben Rhodes. Two time truck champion, always competitive in that series. Had a single top 10 and 4 finishes in the 30s in his limited JR motorsports starts. Compare that to any of the cup guys that got into that 88 car and his young stats wilt.
I absolutely love the Deegan family, wish her the best.
Me too, I think Haiden could be one of the best SX/MX racers ever. Hailie’s statement was definitely bold..At the same time, they mentioned she doesn’t have the experience to tell you what is going on with the car but she said she is the only one who knows exactly what she needs. So I can see it rubbing ppl the wrong way but I’m with Jr. here, it was too much too soon. She would win at most local tracks it’s just a giant leap to NASCAR.
Same here and it sucks Hailie's career panned out this way
They’re Trump lovers and Hailee made some anti 🏳️🌈 remarks that got her in trouble
@chloe-stephlis6281 plus she can't drive...
@@chloe-stephlis6281 president Trump
I'm rooting for her. A rookie team paired with a rookie driver...what did they expect? Smoke needs to put her in a car with a good team.
@sb859 Huh? Tell you what, let Tony know, and maybe he'll get right on that, especially since he just closed SHR down, and sold out, and got out, completely out, of NASCAR, in order to pursue NHRA Drag racing, and starting a family. Tony isn't putting anyone in a NASCAR stock car, he's just finishing up doing exactly the opposite.
Sure. She can race a top fuel funny car for him next year.
@@dskeptic Top Fuel ain't that simple. Tony ran A/Fuel last year, and finished 2nd in the World Championship to Julie Nataas. This year he's driving Leah's car, she finished 2nd in the World to Doug Kalitta last year. So far Tony hasn't done anything in TF.
Now Julie upgraded her license to Top Fuel after the race in Virginia. After the mandatory 400 ft check out pass, she ran numbers good enough to have sat near the top of the field at the actual race.
Drag racing is a very technical sport that requires intense concentration. Tony is one of the very few roundy-round racers to have any luck at it. Kalitta is the other!
Since when is AM Racing a rookie team? You simps are insane.
The JGR Xfinity program has given opportunities to several drivers in one off deals to drive their cars and most have done well even though they hadn’t done much with other lower funded teams, I’m sure she could probably get the funding to try that route like others have, that might show where she stands talent wise as those cars have shown to be front runners with just about anyone who drives them.
Pick her up Jr you have a way to make her a great driver you done proved that you can do it lol I just started following her darn it
Get her on the show
Already been on the show. Search for it on TH-cam, you will find it
I bet Jr would not hire her......
Because JRM drives Chevys. She is under contract with Ford. 😂
If the check is big enough. Its a business as much as its a sport.
@@danw2112 - she was under contract with AM Racing too.
Aside from the Ford/Chevy thing, I'd bet you'd be wrong. Just my opinion.
They can’t hire her. Shes under contract with Ford.
Hey Dale, where'd you find this guy?
Good job Junior. Haley has a lot of talent.
She needs to look at SVG and follow his methodology to NASCAR. SVG raced in a number of different categories to learn different skills and to be exposed to different race teams. It meant that SVG is not a one trick pony who specialises in just V8 Supercars. He has experience in open wheelers in NZ, V8 Supercars in Australia, he raced GT3 Sportcars at Monza, Silverstone, Paul Ricard, Spa 24 hours and Nurburgring, IMSA Sportscars at Daytona 24 hours and Sebring 12 hours and even around of the WRC.
SVG earned his money in V8 Supercars but made sure his racecraft was honed across multiple series and that he was exposed to different teams, different conditions and different types of setup. In 2016 he travelled overseas for the Daytona 24 hour, the Spa 24 hour, sportscar races at Monza, Silverstone, Spa and Nurburging. Each of these events happened during a season he was fighting for the V8 Supercar championship and each involved 24 hour flights and short turnarounds. He was prepared to risk his main source of income in V8 Supercars to gain experience and skills across multiple categories.
Hailie needs to get her backside into any racing category anywhere in the world to improve her racecraft, her only criteria should be making sure she is with a team that has a competitive car and that has experience. Her time in the NASCAR pyramid has not developed her racecraft enough and she needs to grab every opportunity. 24 hour races at Nurburgring, Spa and Daytona would inject massive experience and racecraft and give her the chance to work with experienced drivers as team mates and with experienced teams and their sheer length would quickly give her more experience. Every V8 Supercar team needs a co-driver for Bathurst again she needs to get herself into a seat in an event that just by its very length will give her experience and in a two car team will expose her to three team mates with experience that she can learn from.
Right now her commercial brand relies on image rather than experience and image is unfortunately transitory.
@NascarFan2345 The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome. She needs to develop her racecraft
Remember that SVG was in his mid 20's in 2016 when he went and raced overseas to improve his racecraft, he had less seat time than Hailie has and had landed a seat in the top V8 Supercar team. Instead of spending his time focusing on Instagram pictures and image he focused on his racecraft and went overseas.
She needs to stop worrying about her brand and start worrying about her racecraft. If she cannot get seat time in a competitive team within NASCAR pyramid she start looking overseas. A stint with a European GT3 team racing the N24 and Spa 24 will massively improve her racecraft. She fundamentally does not know how to set up a race car.
@@MrCarrera28She already knows how to race dirt. Tony Stewart wouldn't shut up about how good she is.
She ran the Michelin Pilot Challenge last year at the 24 Hours of Daytona and came in 3rd.
Last year she drove an Xfinity car for a good team and finished well. Those two events are why so many felt Xfinity fit her style of driving better than the demolition derby that is the Truck Series.
No doubt Deegan needs more experience, but she chose the wrong opportunity with AM Racing. A total clusterfuck!
Hopefully she can find a real opportunity with a serious team that understands driver development.
But that's where your Ideology is wrong.... Just because you're an experienced race car driver doesn't mean you're going to get a ride at a prestigious race team across the pond and even at that some great drivers don't make it to other series. WEC, IMSA, GT3, etc you have to either know someone or be invited to race you cant just say hey here is some cash I want to drive a race car you have to be at top of your game 24/7 to be invited to those level of racing. Nascar is moving up the Ranks if a team sees your improvement in truck and feel you're ready for Xfinity then so be it. As for social media she has sponsors that require her to post for branding reasons so she's working while on social media
Good point. Image gives her opportunities. She needs to work on racecraft. Take 5 years. Limit the influencer life. It is hard bc she is attractive and good looking women live life on easy mode. But that doesn't guarantee results in a competitive sport.
A lot is perception. I do believe she has talent. But! She comes across as being more interested in her social media than racing. In 2022 at the spring Daytona race, there was a little girl sitting in front of me all decked out in Hailie garb. During introductions, all the drivers were waving at the fans from the back of the pickups. Hailie had her face buried in her phone. The messages can wait 10 minutes. The little girl was calling her name and was crushed when Deegan did not respond. "Mom, she didn't even look up". Very sad.
That’s the problem….too worried about social media presence and not enough about the process of the team and racing! Big mistake and now it’s over…!
Social media is the job. Hailee should have paid attention to the fan though. I wouldn't judge her on that one deal though. But she should pan more attention. Fans ARE the sport.
That really sucks. I feel sad for that little kid. ☹
Bro, you're gonna make me cry. 😢
Listen to all of you judging someone based on watching TV. Dale and Tony could have taken her under their wings and helped her, but they either didnt have the time or the desire to do so. Its great looking in from the outside, but not a single one of you "commenters" is a race car driver, so you know almost 0 of what skill is required or anything about the cars themselves. Hailee did much better when she was told to run hard in the pack, unfortunately that meant being caught up in most wrecks. So they shifted her focus to run in back, avoid the wrecks and do what we can. We wont even get into the amount of grief the immature drivers caused her on purpose, because they didnt like being passed by a girl. Thor motorsports specifically told her to run hard, but also told her to hold back in the first 3/4 of the race. Thats never been a race winning formula. AM Racing had a cup champion run their car and only start 15th! And only finish 8th against lower class drivers. And on a road course at that, which is far and away the worst track to prove you are good at running in a circle. AM didnt know how to set up the car, Joey proved that while talking to the crew chief mid race. So you can put a cup winner in a low end ride and he will perform well, but you cant say that makes the 15 car a good car. You also cant put an inexperienced driver in a car, and expect great results in their first season, when they dont know how to tell you to adjust or setup the car. So Hailee made a bad decision going with AM Racing, period. She needs to take a step back, get with a champion that will mold and develop her into the race driver she has the potential to become. She has potential, which is something you cant say for everyone that gets in a racecar.
I think the right scenario is you and Kelly Bell really seriously
Sorry Dale not Bell
Dale Jr. Would you sign her act as her coach. She is talented but as you said she doesn’t know what she wants..
She drove for an awesome truck team and did horrible.
In her 3 years in trucks didn't her teammates have a whole 3 wins? That doesn't exactly sound like great equipment
She had good enough finishes to get a ride in the Michelin Pilot Challenge at the 24 Hours at Daytona, where she finished 3rd against experienced endurance racers.
She also finished well in her one Xfinity start last year in a good car with a good team.
She had good enough finishes to get a ride in the Michelin Pilot Challenge at the 24 Hours at Daytona, where she finished 3rd against experienced endurance racers.
She also finished well in her one Xfinity start last year in a good car with a good team.
JR Motorsports should hire her.
come on dale man i was out there in traffic side drafting drafting up hill taking care of my stuff dang man
I feel Jr. and TJ have a very fair assessment of Haillie. And in my opinion she has a good head on her shoulders, works hard, and like they say she's good for NASCAR. I agree that in right situation she can have an accomplished NASCAR career. She will get another shot
I believe she has the talent and potential and I also believe she brings her financial support and sponsorship to a team. And she is good for the sport itself. Hopefully she finds a team where the balance is good for her and them and can learn and progress and become better
That's what I love about Ryan Vargas. He went DOWN for a year and is driving in EuroNASCAR to get that road course experience. He knows where he is lacking and is going to where he can hone his skills and come back faster and more competative. One day, he will be a star, who knows, maybe even in a cup car.
Didn’t know there was a Euro nascar😮
@@phillippitts6294 check it out. They show races live on TH-cam.
Wonder if she would do a Preece deal or a Ryan Truex deal where she can put together a part time schedule in a decent car and then use a couple good runs to propel herself into a better ride for the next year.
It’s certainly possible.
She should move to NHRA Already about a dozen female drivers, with a few being class champions. She won't stand out as much.... Unless that's what she wants to do. She did seem to pay a lot of attention to her TH-cam channel.
Everyone who is successful in the NHRA has a large social media presence. Same for successful NASCAR drivers. That's the job. They all drive for free.
Drag racing is tough. It requires serious skill and superior concentration.
Few roundy-rounders can succeed.
Tony Stewart did OK in A/Fuel dragster, driving a 5000 horsepower nitro car. He came in second to Julie Nataas in the World Championship last year.
This year, driving his wife Leah's 12,000 horsepower Top Fuel car, he hasn't done anything. Leah finished #2 in the World Championship last year in that same car, with the same crew chief, and team.
Julie Nataas upgraded her license to Top Fuel in Virginia a couple of weeks ago on Monday after Sunday's National Event. After the required 400 ft check out run, Julie ran two full passes quick enough to have qualified in the top half of the field for the actual race.
Deegan needs to be with a good team that is experienced and committed. AM Racing is neither.
She had David Ragan as her driver coach, has been in CHAMPIONSHIP equipment at Thorsport and couldn't get it done. IMO AM racing saw her focus probably wasn't 1000% on driving instead of worrying about her own brand and channel they told her to kick rocks.
100% Agree, but she is her biggest obstacle. If she wants to be competitive in racing, she needs to put down the camera and get her butt in the shop with the team every day. Until she does that and puts in the effort and time, she will be a driver of the past quick. Her 3 years in the trucks she got worse and worse every year, she is too content running mid pack.
Yeah I mostly agree. She spends way too much time and effort fooling around on social media and essentially trying to get simp fans
. Spend more time in the race shop, help work on the car and ask questions. Whose fault is it she doesn’t know how to set up a race car? Did she ever ask? Did she ever learn it? Drivers these days think they should just be able to hop in a race car and have it run perfect without any knowledge or input. Kinda like days of Thunder when the crew chief basically tells Cole if you can’t tell me what the car is doing I can’t fix the damn car 🥴
@@tritontransport true
💯🎯 Guys. Spot on.
I agree
She did so well at the Roar Before the 24 a couple of years back. I hope she considers looking into IMSA
Ive actually been a fan of hers for years because i remember her dad and the metal militia. Ive probably seen her 3 times race in person. Sorry she DOES NOT HAVE IT. I understand shes a young girl who is cute and posts on Instagram a lot because i follow her and its just sad seeing comments. Shes good looking and got decent as a driver. Actually her brother is a true superstar yet nobody talks about him. Everyone needs to stop pushing her as a professional cup driver because shes a good looking girl.
Well there you go jr, hire her for one of your cars if a spot becomes available next season or part time her. If you believe what you are saying, then give her a chance for her to show everyone what she has in a jrm car and maybe a decent team would pick her up and silence the doubters. That’s something I can get behind.👍
She raved for ThorSport in trucks and was awful. Get a grip. 😂😂😂
@@BANGITSME87 read what I said again, I’m no fan of hers you idiot. But I do however like when people get more chances when there’s doubt in play. If she was to do good in a jrm car then they be more questions than answers but if she was to suck then that clears everything up.
I hope harrison burton can get in the 15 full time
He sick too
Why would anyone want to drive the 15?
I keep thinking that if Xfinity and NASCAR as a whole doesn't work out, she should pursue the IMSA route fully (with Ford support), Look at The Iron Dames team, They are a team of all women. They run great and are contenders for the win 60%-70% of the time. If she can do well in the Michelin Pilot Challenge, VP Sportscar Challenge, or even Mustang Challenge, I could see her eventually getting a call from the Ford GT3 factory team or any Ford customer teams.
You’re the one that hires drivers to develop them Dale so you should hire her!!
She’s with Ford. His team is Chevy
AM Racing can’t afford to replace torn up race cars. She doesn’t know how to set up a car.
You do know she pays to race and pays for all damages to the vehicle she’s driving that’s why she is always getting sponsors help so it hurts her more from her pocket then the car owner at the level she’s at
How about we give more practice time, just a thought
That would help a lot of drivers
With the same practice time:
Xfinity
Chandler Smith - 22 yo, 2 wins , 6 top 5s
Jesse Love - 19 yo, 1 win, 3 top 5s
Sammy Smith - 20 , 2 top 5s
Sam Mayer - 21 , 1 win, 5 top 5s
Parker Retzlaff - 21, 2 top 5s
Leland Honeyman - 19 , 1 top
Dale Would you consider Hallie for an Xfinity Car if you have a spot open?
He can't. She's a Ford development driver.
I’m a fan of her finding success. I do think she would be more comfortable with off-road . But that’s just my thought. The angle of the dangle is why motorcross background rarely translates as a successful pavement (unless it’s short stint tracks ). She is definitely talented and wish her the best
Hailie needs to be in a late model
If she really wants to learn, and develop some skills, a season or two, probably two, in the CARS Tour, with a good team would help a lot.
Let her race in the ASA series. Let's see her run the Redbud 400, Winchester 400 and All American 400. She needs short track experience.
@@kevinkotansky4184 I agree, it would help her a lot. That's something she kinda missed/skipped, and it's showing up now.
If she didn’t do well in trucks why would she do well in xfinity?
Jimmy Johnson sucked in the bush series!
@@retired-pipefitter women are not as good as men at driving race cars FUCKING DEAL WITH IT.
Are we pretending the truck series is an actually decent feeder series??
Because the one time she was in one of these cars before this season she ran near the top 10 most of the day
She is about to be the best " Monster Truck" driver ever. Mark my words.
Did she run last or average last? There are several drivers in Xfinity and Cup that have never won, never expected to win, but continue to race with no one questioning their talent, or if they should be driving.
You notice jr is not inviting Hallie over to their organization. Kelly his sister has been promoting we need girls in the sport bla bla. She sucks they know it you hear it in the conversation ah well ok well maybe bla bla
Because she's a Ford driver she has at least 1 more year as a Ford development driver
@@AlexEvans-dm3yl No, it's because she sucks.
Hailie Deegan only chance is to cut ties with Ford, her career has gone no where since being a Ford Development Driver.
4 years in Ford. 4 years of Disappointment. If a Tricon Garage seat opens up, that is her chance.
Ford will void her contract, and Toyota doesn't want her...
Alot of people are saying her biggest mistake she ever made was switching from Toyota to Ford but she wanted that Truck and that Mustang lol
Toyota had to have given her the boot
@@raylewis1355 Toyota was smart...
@@davidvanbrunt4233 for real
I think Hailie should give NASCAR the middle finger, and go make millions on TH-cam having fun.
I think she would be a great add to you team dale jr
Put her in one of your cars for a race or two. Help her out
That’s what I’m sayin’ though she seems way too connected to Ford.
Have Kelly start an off shoot! Make her great and get her there! Come on man…woman!
Like F1… need to better prepare women for competition. These little 4 banger series cars they’re out in are weak sauce!
@@Greg-ij6em he should put her in the 88 car part time
He only looks for talent, she has marketability
He can’t Ford won’t allow it
What is the Deegan simp army going to say this time?
She could bring a lot of sponsors to you Junior you need to think about hiring her for the late models
Hailie was doing well with ARCA. She was rushed to trucks far too soon. I wish she would go back and win more races and a championship in ARCA.