I think she rushed herself up, she has the sponsor money but she’s not in really bad equipment but she is not delivering, I think if she goes back to Arca and redevelop herself she could have another chance but that is unlikely. Hailie didn’t do to well in Thorsport equipment either so yeah, I definitely think her career right now is not really good at all.
The dbc guys had the nerve to say its because of the car while completely ignoring the fact she had a top 5 truck last year with all her teammates getting into the playoffs while one also winning the championship
@@thetechfromheaven Nah just go full in like GT racing or Even dirt. Shes solid on dirt. Could learn and build from there. Theres nothing wrong with just being a full time Dirt Driver. Not everyone has to make it in NASCAR.
The amount of excuses for Deegan is abysmal. They've blamed everything else except for talent. I truly just keep an eye out for her in races to see how bad she'll run.
Yeah I've seen so many people defend her, like one of my friends is one of those and I asked him one thing "Your just a simp aren't you" and he went quiet like...
Imo she never should’ve been given an Xfinity opportunity after barely finishing top 20 in points in a Thorsport truck last year. Newsflash: the Xfinity series is way harder than the truck series
She’s way better than the gray brothers in the trucks especially tanner gray he’s shouldn’t even be in the trucks, also Jake Garcia isn’t any better either!
Yes, there are many dirt racers. Even that local guy that's just kind of good at your track would probably do relatively well in NASCAR. But I don't think a lot of dirt guys care about NASCAR that much or asphalt type racing aside from the money and everything else that goes with it just dealing with the clowns running NASCAR would be a pain.
@@SamMayer-ig6tw especially since the tires are so hard now! Little falloff means those dirt drivers can do their thing-find grip anywhere by any means without worrying about chewing up tires as much.
I have epilepsy, so I haven't had a drivers license since 2011 and I'd be willing to bet that I could have a close season avg finish to hers. Not a knock on female drivers at all, there's male drivers just as bad. But it does get to a point where it's pretty clear that she's mainly out there for the PR.
Just from her body laungage you can tell she feels defeated by how bad shes been running with the weight on the world on her shoulders. I honestly feel bad but reguardless its time to move on at season end. She needs a full reset.
Honestly, she’s doing the same thing. Danica Patrick did 15 years ago. She just doesn’t deliver. I can see her working on broadcasting though like trackside like Fox or NBC for NASCAR.
@Jeff.3 you are talking about tony stewart being a great driver in another comment? Why are you allowed to judge talent and not us? Simps just wanna make it up as they go along lol
@@C.JFomme I said that tony stewart called deegan a hell of a driver. I'd rather take the word of tony stewart over people on TH-cam and Twitter any day
I’m so sick of people saying that she’s been moved up too quickly, the truth is a five year gap from Arca to Xfinity is more than enough time to develop as a driver. The brutal reality is she just does not have the talent to compete in NASCAR national level. There are drivers that are currently younger who have moved up through the ranks quicker and have produced better results than her.
Nepo Baby Driver. You're spot on with your assessment. Should've allowed her to marinate in the lower leagues longer but her name and fledgling ability made her a commodity.
You speaking the truth. The people getting the most offended and crying are the same people that wouldn't know the truth if it punched them in the face🤷🏻♂️ racing is about winning
Sadly, I agree. Pains me to say tho, cuz I wanna see her succeed & see female drivers succeed, in general. She was rushed up too quickly & probably should've stayed in the Toyota pipeline. And tbh, I kinda forgot she's in Xfinity this year.
The biggest issue is the demand for a woman driver is so high on Nascar's agenda that any time a female shows some talent she gets rushed up the ladder way too quickly. After Natalie Decker got her top 5 at Daytona they promoted her way too quickly. ARCA and sporadic Truck races would have been better than trying to get into Xfinity. I think Deegs is in the same boat, one K&N win and they send her full time trucks instead of staying in ARCA a few more years. I like the path Toni is using now, and hopefully she will avoid the same mess the other two girls got caught up in. I'm a huge HD fan, but I would like to see her go back to ARCA and build that confidence back up rather than languish in the upper 30s every week. Wins, wherever you can get them, fix everything.
I don't understand why more drivers including Deegan do not explore sports car racing. Look at the success Samantha Tan has experienced with BMW for example.
I stopped following her a couple years ago when I noticed a trend of her blaming everyone and everything else besides her true commitment to the craft. She is suited for more of a local track youtube career and do just fine. She does have a talent in making youtube content and should pursue that avenue.
I feel like she'll still make it to Cup simply off her marketability, because money talks at the end of the day. But if she does, she'll take away a Cup ride from someone more deserving and stink up the joint worse than Danica ever did.
Shes an embarrassment to our once great sport. STOP with this social media nonsense! I'm not against female drivers! I think Johanna Long was awesome! That's about it. She did her job, didn't share her entire life with the world, wasn't pretentious, and drove less than likely equipment to almost winning! She had an awesome team! And she communicated with them! Made that car better, week in and week out. Instead of trying to be a "social media SENSATION" Johanna Long was the real deal!
@@lionelnextelstudios0.282 considering Johnson was still contending for top 10s here and there when he was driving for Chevy. Him switching to Toyota is apart of it yeah.
I feel like overhyping people is a dangerous game. But sponsors pay the bills. We know she has talent, maybe she just needs to be more focused and patient. I can’t imagine she feels great every time she puts another bad finish in the books…maybe it’s just too much pressure? I hope the best for her. It would be a shame if things don’t improve at some point.
Finally you are the voice of reason. I’ve felt like she was better at making excuses than she was at driving. I’ve always said to those who didn’t agree that TIME WILL TELL”. I think time has spoken.
I don't wanna hear that "she was rushed" shit. SVG who came from right handed steering cars, and had never driven on an oval in his entire life until NASCAR, is 14th in points, while she is 28th. He is also a *35 year old rookie* who, once again, had never raced on an oval until NASCAR, and every start for him is on a track he has never raced on...meanwhile most of those tracks Deegan has raced on for at least 3 years. She's a wash.
What do you think of hailie deegans career, ok here is an answer from someone who worked with her at thorsport take it or leave it i dont care 1 before you call us a mediocre team just remember no one else had a problem running that truck up front and winning in it 2. The same crew she started off the season with ended up winning the championship with bed rhodes 3. Same 8 guys build the trucks for all 5 teams, so dont give me the crap about equipment 4. When shes only at the shop 4 times in a season and thats basically to do a tic tok video explains alot, especially since ford spent all that money to get her from toyota and buy a simulator that she never sat in 5. Try doing your job at track when you have to move around the entourage in the way
I was a Hailie Deegan fan maybe because of the media/ social hype but since watching her more closely I've had to think about my support. One or two good races, here & there doesn't mean a driver has talent. The biggest part of showing talent is demonstrating consistancy. She just can't do that. Unless you consider running & finishing 30th or worst, CONSISTENTLY means anything. I truely hope she improves before her sponsors dump her.
I really wanted her to be successful in NASCAR. I really did. I still do. Now I just know that it wont happen. Itcwas fun seeing her leade for 5 seconds at Talladega though. If she played her cards rights, maybe she could have finished better. The what ifs..
Do not compare her to brett mofit, stewart hass was still a fucking team with reliable cars last year, and brett IS A CUP DRIVER WITH HUNDREDS OF STARTS. She is struggling, she has had good finishes, despite the car being garbage, blowing up and her crew chief being canned. Multiple top 20's. I hope she can get a better ride to improve next year and she can get more laps under her belt. She needs to work on qualifying better as well. Its a hard place to be in.
If she just stops getting in wrecks, I want to see what that type of season looks like. Also, I listened to her team communications at Gateway and she is the one who finally took charge and started calling some shots as it seemed like her crew chief did not care. I will chalk this up as an underperforming rookie season. I agree that she was moved up too fast. I disagree that she should be kicked out of Xfinity. If she brings the sponsorship and money, do what you want. I would like to see if she's willing to do 10 races in a S-tier car rather than a mid pack car for an entire season. I personally really want her to succeed, and I think it would be awesome for the sport if she can find a way to succeed.
@5:44 Sanchez getting into the back of Deegan....again! He wrecked her 3 times that year just like that. But it's her fault, right? You won't see Sanchez getting into the back of a truck driven by a guy, because Sanchez would be wrecked in turn or punched out after the race. Oh look, she got wrecked out by someone else again @8:23. It's just strange how no one mentions this.
I’d like to see her succeed, but it’s tough to perform at that level. Idk if she needs more time to develop or if she has peaked, but the results haven’t been great.
She's Danica 2.0. Its clear she got rushed through the lower ranks and hasn't really learned what the car is doing and then overdrives it into a wreck. She should be running closer to the RSS cars, not the field fillers. Maybe a trip back to Trucks with some late model races (CARS Tour maybe?) can get her on track but she's way over her head at the moment.
I think there is a lot of people who want a female driver to root for in NASCAR. Doriane Pin has won the sports cars internationally against the best in the world. Chadwick in IndyNxt is also making headlines too. Hailie is the highest in the route to Cup right now, but idk if she has it in NSACAR. The Cup cars are whole different animal than Xfinity cars, but I wouldn't put her in a Cup car. She seems to do well on dirt, so maybe that's her path. Maybe going back down would help her.
I genuinely think a problem for any girl/woman who comes up now is that they will get so hyped because they are a woman. Even a talented woman will be hyped too much because sponsors definitely want to sponsor a successful woman. I think there is more pressure on women for that reason, and that pressure will break most
I think switching to Ford was the worst decision of her career. I believe that she would have won in Venturini equipment in ARCA because the DGR Crosley cars at the time were not as fast as the Toyotas or Chevys. I also think that Toyota wouldn’t have rushed her up as quickly. I think the big reason why she was rushed up by Ford was because of the lack of talent in their pipeline. If Venturini signed her instead of Dollar, who she beat for ROTY in 2020, it would be a completely different story. I also think that she should’ve done more double duty weekends to get more track time and experience. I don’t think that her struggles this year are all her fault but she needs to turn things around before I can put any support behind her.
I think if Gene Haas could talk to A.M. Racing and maybe buys out Haillie Deegan's contract, maybe Haas Organization could have her as a part time driver for the Xfinity Series and that number should be #98 and that should be a rotation of drivers and Harrison Burton should take over the A.M. Racing #15 with an alliance of Haas organization and also I would put Haillie Deegan in a part time ride for the Truck Series also as well as ARCA.
The problem is when she is running good she gets wrecked by her competitors. The problem is she needs a couple years not just one year. She will sink or swim in the next two years. I agree she needs to run better.
She can drive the car around the track - that's it. How many yrs does it take to show you can compete at least a little bit. If this was 'School' they wouldn't keep her for 5 yrs. If you can't do it, you can't do it. It really is that simple.
I think that Jailie Deegan's biggest mistake, which has resulted in the career she's had so far, if the move from Toyota to Ford. Even though I'm not a Ford fan per se, that is not making me be biased in this comment. Ford has struggled in the past couple of years. So that could be part of it. But who knows what would have happened if she'd had stayed with the TRD Development cycle. Maybe have been much of the same as now. We'll never know. The talent is there for her. Her outside distractions are getting in the way of her racing career. Sorry to say it, but it's time to decide Hailie, NASCAR, or social media personality.
@@davessparetime83 I saw those videos where she was crying and complaining. That's hard racing. She would break down going against guys like Larson and Chastain
@@davessparetime83Bumps, fender rubbing, Getting pushed up, and off the track is a part of stock car racing. If she wants respect, she’s got to do it back like the rest of the field does.
@@davidmarecek1754 Technically this also applies to Duno because she did pretty well during her time in Le Mans and Grand Am (the two sportscars series that would eventually merge to become IMSA)
@@MrEnzio777 Sportscar Fan here. Milka Duno was carried by the Legend Andy Wallace, she was dogshit in those cars and it showed. She basically was an anchor and Andy Wallace hated her.
@@wyvernzero7642 Jade Avedisian is one to keep an eye on. Isabella Robusto as well. Both have TRD factory support and are adapting well to three different types of vehicle (GT4, ARCA and a Quarter Midget).
Money can not buy talent. She needs to decide if she wants to be a TH-cam star or a NASCAR driver and do good at it. She is trying to be toooo popular at what she wants to be, not supporting her team that is paying her salary. Get into it or get out completely.
I got so much crap for commenting this last year it’s clear she spends just as much time on TH-cam and other social stuff as she does with her team.. people can hate drivers like Denny Hamlin all they want but he wasn’t the most talented driver he simply worked hard and still does to this day. You can tell which drivers in nascar have work ethic and who doesn’t
Only thing I disagree with is, money can buy talent. BUT, not for everyone* Look at it this way. A non-talented, non-pay driver will never get a chance, right? But a non-talented pay driver will. We don’t see non-pay drivers fail much, because they have to be talented in the first place. It appears that pay drivers are worse because they have a much longer leash, and are granted an opportunity. If you already have talent as a pay driver, it’s much easier to harness your skills because you have more opportunities to race. I used to despise pay drivers, and still do to an extent. But I’ve come to realize they have a leg up on competitors IF they already have the talent. With that said, Hallie is not a case for this. Had Hallie not had the name, and funding, we would have never seen her to begin with. Thus is the reasoning why pay drivers get a bad name.
@@JustGenius2001 that's the biggest shame in all of this. I really liked his channel, until I saw the video (with evidence!) of his copy and paste approach to making videos.
The comments on her vlogs videos of her races are insane, all the comments are saying that it’s not her fault she’s bad and the amount of excuses her fans give her is crazy. Those fans definitely don’t watch NASCAR lmao
@@robertstone9988you can’t deny some drivers do that though. Remember, shawna Robinson said it herself on the dale jr download. Mike Wallace was gunning for her. He made that clear. Lawless allen is another 1. Look at how he races side by side with a male, and then how he does side by side with a woman. I’m not defending hailie but. I’ve watched racing since 1991. I’ve seen a lot of guys race women harder for being female and I give credit to Janet Guthrie, Danica, and others who paved the way while some did try to hold them back. Bobby rahal admitted, he didn’t setup Danica’s car to the best it could because he was afraid of what could happen since she was a woman. To this day he regrets it. That’s part of the reason he has his son race for him. She needs to finish and compete. If she can get more top 20s regularly. She will turn some heads and then top 15, and so on. She needs to be competitive. She’s been better than Natalie decker in xfinity. Let’s be honest about it
@@robertstone9988by no means am I a simp, or even a fan of Hallie whatsoever to be honest. She just rubs me the wrong way if I’m being honest. But there’s no denying that it’s absolutely a thing. Shawna Robinson is a classic example of that. Sat on the pole in the early 90’s in Busch, only to have Mike Wallace openly take her out of the race. I do recall in trucks, I want to say a back marker (can’t recall who,) took her out quite a bit, or attempted to. To have to worry about that extra layer during the race is definitely not helping her at all. I feel it’s underestimated the amount of stress and second guessing she goes through because of it. With that said, it’s not to say a 28th place finish would have turned into say a 8th, but it very easily could turn 28th into 22-27, etc.
@@MrEnzio777 Not happening. IMSA/SRO America is the only landing spot. Jack Polito wants into IMSA, and he'd get paid by Ford to have Deegan as his teammate, no brainer.
And having a famous last name too. Let's admit it, if she was a guy who doesn't have a famous last name, she would've been outta NASCAR a long time ago.
@@NickGreene55 Oh come on now, that's just a cheap shot. Junior got far in NASCAR because yes, his father, but at least Junior ran up sometimes and won races during his time. Junior has trophies, does Deegan? A few trophies? So what? Junior has a lot more and besides, Junior was a much better driver than Deegan will ever be.
@@Mikey85inNV Look, I don't want to deal with another fight. Let's not forget that Junior lost his father on the track so perhaps his personal trauma kept him from being on a level like Gordon and Johnson.
Deegan seems to be more concerned about her social media exploits than her driving skills. I think she is a better dirt racer then pavement. If she was really wanting to improve her skills she should do some ARCA or late model races at some of the smaller tracks. Too much "Hollywood"! If she doesn't improve by the end of the season I fear Xfinity will be over for her
Her social media profile is the primary reason she has had a career in NASCAR. She’s marketable. Her social media “exploits” are not a distraction. They are the reason for her success, such as it is.
She wasn't great at mirco sprint racing, raced midgets a few times and was trash. She wasn't good on dirt. The top dirt guys would run circles around nascar drivers in 2024
@@NicholasSpencer-uc9utKenny is Kenny. He will compliment everyone. I think it's less about being a simp and more about promoting every driver he knows or talks to.
Yes and you've had drivers from Nascar's diversity program be successful from it, Larson, Almorilla, Wallace. Look at Frankie Muniz, while not from that program, because of his name and fame, which has had the opportunity to go nascar racing. Obviously, he had to do the required things to go nascar racing, but he's getting attention and interest due to his fame and has nothing to do with D.E.I. Her opertunity was made, but her youtube fame and sponsors willing to sign on and back her are the reasons. GoDaddy lasted a long time with Danica who tore up many race cars. If Deagan wasn't the daughter of a famous motocross star, she'd not have made it past Arca. Companies will piss money out and market the hell out of the darlings like Danica or Deagan because it sells merch, creates engagement, and drives traffic/eyes to their business.
Nascar isnt about talent, just how much money you bring so she will be fine. Watch national level dirt late model and sprint car racing if you want to see the actual best oval racers
And comments like yours here make me sick. We might as well just stop going and watching races and let NASCAR die because without ticket sales and viewers, NASCAR is fucked.
Money doesn’t stay around long when you are chasing the end of the pack each week. She has not shown anything positive in trucks or xfinity, time to give another driver the seat.
@loganmanderfield1162 you need to have millions in funding at your disposal to even get involved in nascar. The talent level is headed off a cliff and your in denial
This was a totally fair and honest critique of Deegan. I have thought all along that she was being pushed along to fast and with that and the constant media barrage focused on her, she really hasn't had a chance. Does she have the talent? I don't think we really know as she has never been allowed the chance to learn and develop as a driver before she gets pushed to the next level.
What talent she had has been stunted by rapid progression, and maybe a lack of tenacity on her part. I don't know how I've can overcome the former, but the latter is all mental.
I’ll say this about Hailie Deegan until the end of time: On dirt = REMARKABLE On asphalt = okay, but not great, not enough to progress past Xfinity at least for the time being This sadly isn’t the first time though that a stellar dirt driver has unfortunately come up short on asphalt (ex. Kinser, Bloomqvist, Sweet, etc. (not comparing her to them, just stating that it’s similar in NASCAR)), and it won’t be the last. And unfortunately, as a fan of the whole Deegan family, seeing her, and her dad during his career for that matter, struggle on asphalt hurts. Overall, I think at the end of the day, she’ll leave nascar with some respectable mid pack stats to her name after next season, and will probably transition to racing quarter midgets with her husband full time, as well as spending time racing off road, like she originally did before her mom got her interested in NASCAR.
She was racing tiny kids while she was in top notch rides. It should make sense to you when all that went away, and she had to bring in sponsors and race people her own age.
@@nickphilkill818yeah I’m not sure where this “she’s amazing on dirt” thing came from. Outside of beating some past their prime guys in SRX, she’s not exactly lighting it up in micros either
If Hallie Deegan was a guy, she’d either be out of NASCAR or would be in a back marker car with whatever funding she brought, with no one talking about her.
Kyle Larson is a cup champion with 27 wins. He could take it easy between races, go to the beach make tik-tok videos and have fun. Instead he goes out and drives sprint cars in the middle of the week to stay sharp. Maybe Hailie should stop making videos and get more track time in the middle of the week like Kyle does.
If her name was Hal Deegan , she'd be working at Hardee's by now , the racing career long over. Simping seems to be big among NASCAR fans so she's still around.
You forgot the best and most hilarious excuse of them all. The guys race her harder than they do the other guys. Unless you haven't watched a race lately, they all race the sh@% out of each other. The person passing you doesn't care what sex you are. That's a spot and they want it regardless. I'm bummed by this, because the more diversity in the sport, the better. Excuse time is over. Run up front in something. John Hunter did it and now he's back in Cup. There is a path, but she needs more experience and more confidence. She's not going to get it running with back marker teams.
I grew up in the same town as Hailie Deegan, hell the Deegan family rented out a commercial building from my family to run their Jr trophy truck out of and we even went to the same school, though were a few grade levels apart. Basically what I'm setting up is that I know Deegan and the entire family really well. She has never had any talent. Period. The only reason she ever got anywhere is because her parents and other immediate family (who I won't mention by name since the topic of conversation is not about them) are big shots, and has massive connections with companies like Monster, that allowed her to write blank checks to get the rides she wants.
In all fairness that's all professional drivers. If your family didn't bring home 6 figgers and you don't have corporate connections your not making it to trucks never less cup. The most blue collar down to earth every day guy driver you can thank of, if you just do a little research would reveal at minimum a upper middle class family with connections. In other words if you are 10 years old live in the trailer park single mother on food stamps and dream of being a cup driver, it's never going to happen. Dosnt mean you can't drive race cars. I have run a bomber (late model leaf spring car) on a used car sales man's budget but it strains my budget and I can't afford to make ever race or crash a car or take risks that others can. It's not there fault there rich and connected. There just doing what we all wish we could and would do if we could. Just stating facts.
@@robertstone9988 You're kind fo correct and I agree with you ona fundamental level, but I think you are completely missing both the point that I was making in my OP as well as the nuances of the industry. Professional racing is indeed a ridicuously expensive sport, and if you want to be in trucks, with no talent, you need way more than a measly 6 figure salary. Hell if it only took a 6 figure income and corporate connections, I would still be racing. I developed amazing relationships with NAPA, I started K1 Race Gear with the owners of K1 Speed, and am even still on Bill McAnally's personal christmas card list (lol). Add an extra 0 to the income bracket at minimum as well as add an extra stipulation to the corporate connection that is "family/family friend tie AND did not piss off someone who does have family/family friend ties to your corporate connections". But to go back to my OP, let me try and rephrase it a bit in to clarify. While yes, everyone in racing has some sort of connection that got them there, more often than not, they are racing at tht high level because they have, at least, a base line of inherent ability and talent to drive a racecar. What I am saying is that I do not think Hailie Deegan even possesses the minimum level of talent to be professional stock car racing. She doesn't have the drive, the focus, the discipline, the training or the raw natural instinct. So to reitterate, I believe she got to where she is now purely based off of the money and influence, and talent (or lack there of) had zero influence on her advancements in professional racing.
@@Greg1_c When we were in the same school, like once every month or maybe even more often than that, someone in the Deegan family would do a promo in front of the plaza during lunch time. I'm pretty sure every single person who grew up in Temecula knew the Deegan family, especially considering basically every 3rd child was walking around with one of their hats on. I can't remember the Deegan brand off the top of my head anymore but it was something like "metal malitia" or something. Honestly, they were/are genious marketers because every freakin kid had a metal malitia shirt, hat, poster or sticker.
@@TheCloudCreation I agree with you 100% dare I say if she was a he they would have never made it this far. She's Danica 2.0 when it comes to marketing. We didn't have a lot of money growing up but I managed to get ahold of some go carts not racing just brigs 5 horse and we run the nabour hood with them, the extent of my carting Career lol. Always wanted to be a pro driver I'm 46 years old i was huge Kyle petty fan back in the day. Ran the 44 on my bomber. I thank thare are 4 measurable stats to determine if you are going to be pro. 4 stats to measure all drivers 1 skill: skill is learned any one can achieve skill and skill can be built on and improved. Example would be we can all learn How to drive a car fast. Hot to apex how to trail brake how ext. 2. Talent: Talent can't be learned you got it or you don't Everyone can learn how to play guitar.Not everybody can be jimi hendrix. 3. Connections: racing is expensive and to be fair a bit of a club. No one gets thare with out some one to open some doors. 4: heart: All the talent skill and opportunity in the world.Don't mean anything if you're hart ant in it. Not all drivers possess all four. But all of the goats do. Hailie has 2 Opportunity and heart. She got farther than me. I know I got heart I know I got skill, like to thank I got Talent but thare was no Connections. I sim race now. Got grate group of guys and 2 wemon and there good.
I agree she rushed up too early and it is a shame as she could of been great but I think it is all over for her in her career. She will never get a Cup ride with her performance.
It ain't the car ,it ain't the set up , it ain't the crew chief , it ain't the crew. Logano finished 8th in Chicago. It's the DRIVER of that #15 car , Failee The Donut Deegan. Now maybe they'll fire her!
WELL, WELL, WELL It was just announced that Logano is racing the Xfinity 15 car for Chicago. I think AM finally came to their senses and realized Deegan wasn't good at all lol
Yep, Moffitt indeed got pushed to the side for this. I bet AM Racing is regretting their decision. Then again, they're getting good money and good publicity for having her so🤷♂
And she took the lead late in the Indy 500. People like to forget that. Danica was a good, solid racecar driver (excellent finishing record in IndyCar), but never a great driver.
The problem is people need to stop comparing her to other drivers and most of her crashes is other drivers just don't like her and all about them like where team works I don't see it with her team then she the say Been the front and middle and so think back is better to make to the front let in the last truck and in xfinty at talladega she didn't crash or didn't get damaged at all still got go place and her team and her coworker it's don't like I think it wrong they are not trying to her so that having bad time
She's not taking it as serious as she needs to to be successful. She's devoting half her focus and time into her youtube channel instead of putting all her focus on developing and becoming a better driver
What do you think of Hailie Deegan's career in NASCAR?
It's all because of her last name. She's got daddys money.
An honest waste
Too young and is rushed. She has talent just look at the SRX but she needs to figure it out or she’s done
Bust
I think she rushed herself up, she has the sponsor money but she’s not in really bad equipment but she is not delivering, I think if she goes back to Arca and redevelop herself she could have another chance but that is unlikely. Hailie didn’t do to well in Thorsport equipment either so yeah, I definitely think her career right now is not really good at all.
The fact Brett Moffitt almost took this car to the playoffs and she can’t even get the top 30
The dbc guys had the nerve to say its because of the car while completely ignoring the fact she had a top 5 truck last year with all her teammates getting into the playoffs while one also winning the championship
@@dedo7326Ya the bias is pretty strong from them.
It's because Bret Moffitt is the Real Deal, I bet he would've won the championship in any of those Thorsport or DGR/Crosley things she drove.
@@thetechfromheaven wish he was in trucks full time
@@JackCallSports wish he was in Cup in a good ride. He would do better than Harrison Burton or Corey Lajoie for sure.
It's over for her, end of story.
Modern JJ Yeley. She should go back to Arca and try to win there, otherwise I don't see her having a chance of having a top ride.
@@thetechfromheaven Nah, not even ARCA.
GT4 America/IMSA as an "Am"
We meet again Aloe fan. Forever 5
NASCAR is just not for her. She should just follow her father's footsteps and go do dirt racing or become a full-time social media personality.
@@thetechfromheaven Nah just go full in like GT racing or Even dirt. Shes solid on dirt. Could learn and build from there. Theres nothing wrong with just being a full time Dirt Driver. Not everyone has to make it in NASCAR.
The amount of excuses for Deegan is abysmal. They've blamed everything else except for talent. I truly just keep an eye out for her in races to see how bad she'll run.
Yeah I've seen so many people defend her, like one of my friends is one of those and I asked him one thing "Your just a simp aren't you" and he went quiet like...
@@TooMuchBurpinI feel bad for these dudes
Exactly. Normally she never even finishes. She's garbage.
Here after she got benched a race
Imo she never should’ve been given an Xfinity opportunity after barely finishing top 20 in points in a Thorsport truck last year. Newsflash: the Xfinity series is way harder than the truck series
She’s way better than the gray brothers in the trucks especially tanner gray he’s shouldn’t even be in the trucks, also Jake Garcia isn’t any better either!
@@miketwotwentyTanner Gray this year still scored more Top 10’s than her entire tenure in Trucks.
@@miketwotwentyTanner Gray still won an Arca race.
@@miketwotwenty you are so delusional
@@miketwotwenty Both Tanner Gray and Taylor Gray have done more this year than in her entire truck stint.
Keep snorting copium 🤡
So many dirt track guys could have success in NASCAR, instead they choose this chick who was below average in micro sprint racing. Joke.
Do top dirt track guys even want to participate in nascar anymore? You make high 6 figures or even over a million now at the top of dirt track racing
Only way you will make more than that in nascar is if you make it to the top of cup which is a huge risk
5000 +
Yes, there are many dirt racers. Even that local guy that's just kind of good at your track would probably do relatively well in NASCAR. But I don't think a lot of dirt guys care about NASCAR that much or asphalt type racing aside from the money and everything else that goes with it just dealing with the clowns running NASCAR would be a pain.
Nascar is all about money now a days it’s not about the talent 🤷🏻♂️
probably 1000 I Racers that would better in the same equipment
More than that, she was wasn't amazing when she raced micro sprints. Any national sprint car driver could do far better than her
@@NickGreene55top 20ish sprint car drivers would clean up against most of the current cup field once they got some laps on pavement
@SamMayer-ig6tw yeah I know
@@SamMayer-ig6tw especially since the tires are so hard now! Little falloff means those dirt drivers can do their thing-find grip anywhere by any means without worrying about chewing up tires as much.
I have epilepsy, so I haven't had a drivers license since 2011 and I'd be willing to bet that I could have a close season avg finish to hers. Not a knock on female drivers at all, there's male drivers just as bad. But it does get to a point where it's pretty clear that she's mainly out there for the PR.
Just from her body laungage you can tell she feels defeated by how bad shes been running with the weight on the world on her shoulders. I honestly feel bad but reguardless its time to move on at season end. She needs a full reset.
She won’t move on. It’s a multi year agreement with AM Racing
I am sick and tired of the x bots in the comments
I don't even understand how there as SO many you can find a random video with like 50 views and they'll still be in the comments
Then stop reading them
@@billb412 I found the first ever bot defender
@@XTheManXI mean he’s right, bitching about it won’t change anything…
@@deaf2819 I don't remember asking you what you thought ngl
She's in her mid 20's, is good looking and has money behind her. That's all she needs to be in the game.
Honestly, she’s doing the same thing. Danica Patrick did 15 years ago. She just doesn’t deliver. I can see her working on broadcasting though like trackside like Fox or NBC for NASCAR.
Epitome of a nepo baby
My favorite nepo baby is probably Richard Petty or Dale Earnhardt
You’re wrong she has no talent
Funny how we as fans think we have room to talk about talent while we're at home every week 😂
@Jeff.3 you are talking about tony stewart being a great driver in another comment? Why are you allowed to judge talent and not us? Simps just wanna make it up as they go along lol
You may be at home Jeff but lots of us are pounding the pavement at our local short tracks. Better to be a racer for a day than a fan for life.
@@C.JFomme I said that tony stewart called deegan a hell of a driver. I'd rather take the word of tony stewart over people on TH-cam and Twitter any day
I’m so sick of people saying that she’s been moved up too quickly, the truth is a five year gap from Arca to Xfinity is more than enough time to develop as a driver. The brutal reality is she just does not have the talent to compete in NASCAR national level. There are drivers that are currently younger who have moved up through the ranks quicker and have produced better results than her.
You see this in sports. Pushing for a certain criteria in in a sport that is not common.
She's only in that seat because she's got Deegan daddy money and a large social following. She'll be better on dirt like her dad and brother.
Nepo Baby Driver. You're spot on with your assessment. Should've allowed her to marinate in the lower leagues longer but her name and fledgling ability made her a commodity.
You speaking the truth. The people getting the most offended and crying are the same people that wouldn't know the truth if it punched them in the face🤷🏻♂️ racing is about winning
Sadly, I agree. Pains me to say tho, cuz I wanna see her succeed & see female drivers succeed, in general. She was rushed up too quickly & probably should've stayed in the Toyota pipeline. And tbh, I kinda forgot she's in Xfinity this year.
It’s Hallie Deegover.
Hailie about to be Deegone from nascar
It's Joever
I really wanted her to do well. Her boyfriend is the one who should be in NASCAR.
LOL that's freaking hilarious.
cabre deserved better
They’re both annoying and failures
@@RC.41what about their dog 🤔
She's this gens Danica. You can't force greatness unless the talent and abilities are real and nurtured properly.
nepo babies dont deserve automatic or extra opportunities
The biggest issue is the demand for a woman driver is so high on Nascar's agenda that any time a female shows some talent she gets rushed up the ladder way too quickly. After Natalie Decker got her top 5 at Daytona they promoted her way too quickly. ARCA and sporadic Truck races would have been better than trying to get into Xfinity. I think Deegs is in the same boat, one K&N win and they send her full time trucks instead of staying in ARCA a few more years. I like the path Toni is using now, and hopefully she will avoid the same mess the other two girls got caught up in. I'm a huge HD fan, but I would like to see her go back to ARCA and build that confidence back up rather than languish in the upper 30s every week. Wins, wherever you can get them, fix everything.
I don't understand why more drivers including Deegan do not explore sports car racing. Look at the success Samantha Tan has experienced with BMW for example.
You’re right on Ice! Her popularity is what’s keeping her afloat, but that only lasts for so long.
Am racing is partly to blame, they signed her knowing full well that she wasn't top 10 material. She was used as marketing material for $$$$.
All of Hailie Deegan success was When she was driving for Toyota and the worst move she made was going to drive for Ford
I stopped following her a couple years ago when I noticed a trend of her blaming everyone and everything else besides her true commitment to the craft. She is suited for more of a local track youtube career and do just fine. She does have a talent in making youtube content and should pursue that avenue.
I feel like she'll still make it to Cup simply off her marketability, because money talks at the end of the day. But if she does, she'll take away a Cup ride from someone more deserving and stink up the joint worse than Danica ever did.
She's gonna cost someone a lotta money in the Cup Series because there's no doubt she'll wreck a lot.
Shes an embarrassment to our once great sport. STOP with this social media nonsense! I'm not against female drivers! I think Johanna Long was awesome! That's about it. She did her job, didn't share her entire life with the world, wasn't pretentious, and drove less than likely equipment to almost winning! She had an awesome team! And she communicated with them! Made that car better, week in and week out. Instead of trying to be a "social media SENSATION" Johanna Long was the real deal!
Yes she was she doesn’t get the credit she deserves
@@law3344she gets plenty of credit but just didn't get brought up to the Cup series since they already had Danica.
Her leaving Toyota is what killed her career
Just for a manufacturer, thats like saying jimmie johnson leaving chevy for toyota is the reason why he's killing his career
@@lionelnextelstudios0.282 considering Johnson was still contending for top 10s here and there when he was driving for Chevy. Him switching to Toyota is apart of it yeah.
I feel like overhyping people is a dangerous game. But sponsors pay the bills. We know she has talent, maybe she just needs to be more focused and patient. I can’t imagine she feels great every time she puts another bad finish in the books…maybe it’s just too much pressure? I hope the best for her. It would be a shame if things don’t improve at some point.
Her talent doesn’t exceed the k&n series. Unfortunately that’s the only series she can be competitive
Finally you are the voice of reason. I’ve felt like she was better at making excuses than she was at driving. I’ve always said to those who didn’t agree that TIME WILL TELL”. I think time has spoken.
I don't wanna hear that "she was rushed" shit. SVG who came from right handed steering cars, and had never driven on an oval in his entire life until NASCAR, is 14th in points, while she is 28th. He is also a *35 year old rookie* who, once again, had never raced on an oval until NASCAR, and every start for him is on a track he has never raced on...meanwhile most of those tracks Deegan has raced on for at least 3 years. She's a wash.
Not true, SVG raced Sprint car's in Australia that turns left.
@@T.N.D.88
And that's the same thing as a stock on a paved track with and without banking?
@@bigelile07 No, but it isn't Alien to him to him to race on ovals that turn left.
@@T.N.D.88
Apples and oranges
@@T.N.D.88
And you turn right on dirt tracks to go left. Not nearly the same thing.
What do you think of hailie deegans career, ok here is an answer from someone who worked with her at thorsport take it or leave it i dont care
1 before you call us a mediocre team just remember no one else had a problem running that truck up front and winning in it
2. The same crew she started off the season with ended up winning the championship with bed rhodes
3. Same 8 guys build the trucks for all 5 teams, so dont give me the crap about equipment
4. When shes only at the shop 4 times in a season and thats basically to do a tic tok video explains alot, especially since ford spent all that money to get her from toyota and buy a simulator that she never sat in
5. Try doing your job at track when you have to move around the entourage in the way
I was a Hailie Deegan fan maybe because of the media/ social hype but since watching her more closely I've had to think about my support. One or two good races, here & there doesn't mean a driver has talent. The biggest part of showing talent is demonstrating consistancy. She just can't do that. Unless you consider running & finishing 30th or worst, CONSISTENTLY means anything. I truely hope she improves before her sponsors dump her.
She can't hack it. She'll make Denny Hamlin be likeable compared to her
Thanks for being one of the only ones to be truthful and transparent about this. Was going to subscribe, but already was 👍🏼👍🏼
I really wanted her to be successful in NASCAR. I really did. I still do. Now I just know that it wont happen. Itcwas fun seeing her leade for 5 seconds at Talladega though. If she played her cards rights, maybe she could have finished better. The what ifs..
Do not compare her to brett mofit, stewart hass was still a fucking team with reliable cars last year, and brett IS A CUP DRIVER WITH HUNDREDS OF STARTS. She is struggling, she has had good finishes, despite the car being garbage, blowing up and her crew chief being canned. Multiple top 20's. I hope she can get a better ride to improve next year and she can get more laps under her belt. She needs to work on qualifying better as well. Its a hard place to be in.
If she just stops getting in wrecks, I want to see what that type of season looks like. Also, I listened to her team communications at Gateway and she is the one who finally took charge and started calling some shots as it seemed like her crew chief did not care. I will chalk this up as an underperforming rookie season. I agree that she was moved up too fast. I disagree that she should be kicked out of Xfinity. If she brings the sponsorship and money, do what you want. I would like to see if she's willing to do 10 races in a S-tier car rather than a mid pack car for an entire season. I personally really want her to succeed, and I think it would be awesome for the sport if she can find a way to succeed.
She's social media influencer, then race car driver. The IMSA schedule and cars would suit her much better.
@5:44 Sanchez getting into the back of Deegan....again! He wrecked her 3 times that year just like that.
But it's her fault, right?
You won't see Sanchez getting into the back of a truck driven by a guy, because Sanchez would be wrecked in turn or punched out after the race.
Oh look, she got wrecked out by someone else again @8:23.
It's just strange how no one mentions this.
I’d like to see her succeed, but it’s tough to perform at that level. Idk if she needs more time to develop or if she has peaked, but the results haven’t been great.
She's Danica 2.0. Its clear she got rushed through the lower ranks and hasn't really learned what the car is doing and then overdrives it into a wreck. She should be running closer to the RSS cars, not the field fillers. Maybe a trip back to Trucks with some late model races (CARS Tour maybe?) can get her on track but she's way over her head at the moment.
When she couldn’t run in the top 10 in trucks (not even finish, just actually run in the top 10) that was a sign to me she doesn’t have it.
I think there is a lot of people who want a female driver to root for in NASCAR. Doriane Pin has won the sports cars internationally against the best in the world. Chadwick in IndyNxt is also making headlines too. Hailie is the highest in the route to Cup right now, but idk if she has it in NSACAR. The Cup cars are whole different animal than Xfinity cars, but I wouldn't put her in a Cup car. She seems to do well on dirt, so maybe that's her path. Maybe going back down would help her.
News Flash. She brings sponsor dollars. If you didn't know it costs money to go racing. As long as she's bringing in dollars she's going to be racing.
And two days after Logano proves it isn't the equipment holding her back... She's sacked.
I genuinely think a problem for any girl/woman who comes up now is that they will get so hyped because they are a woman. Even a talented woman will be hyped too much because sponsors definitely want to sponsor a successful woman. I think there is more pressure on women for that reason, and that pressure will break most
both of her former trucks the 1 and the 13 run upfront most races aswell.
I think switching to Ford was the worst decision of her career. I believe that she would have won in Venturini equipment in ARCA because the DGR Crosley cars at the time were not as fast as the Toyotas or Chevys. I also think that Toyota wouldn’t have rushed her up as quickly. I think the big reason why she was rushed up by Ford was because of the lack of talent in their pipeline. If Venturini signed her instead of Dollar, who she beat for ROTY in 2020, it would be a completely different story. I also think that she should’ve done more double duty weekends to get more track time and experience. I don’t think that her struggles this year are all her fault but she needs to turn things around before I can put any support behind her.
Deegan’s video summary after every race: Teehee, oopsie lol
I think if Gene Haas could talk to A.M. Racing and maybe buys out Haillie Deegan's contract, maybe Haas Organization could have her as a part time driver for the Xfinity Series and that number should be #98 and that should be a rotation of drivers and Harrison Burton should take over the A.M. Racing #15 with an alliance of Haas organization and also I would put Haillie Deegan in a part time ride for the Truck Series also as well as ARCA.
Logano is replacing her at Chicago
The problem is when she is running good she gets wrecked by her competitors. The problem is she needs a couple years not just one year. She will sink or swim in the next two years. I agree she needs to run better.
Funny thing … Toni Breidinger rarely gets “wrecked by her competitors” - even when she competes in trucks.
Odd thing, isn’t it …?
i don't think she should drop out of nascar, she should've stayed in the toyota system instead of going to ford. i'm a fan of hers
The problem with her and say Danica is with even poor results still moves up. Moffitt did much better in this car.
She can drive the car around the track - that's it. How many yrs does it take to show you can compete at least a little bit. If this was 'School' they wouldn't keep her for 5 yrs. If you can't do it, you can't do it. It really is that simple.
I think that Jailie Deegan's biggest mistake, which has resulted in the career she's had so far, if the move from Toyota to Ford. Even though I'm not a Ford fan per se, that is not making me be biased in this comment. Ford has struggled in the past couple of years. So that could be part of it. But who knows what would have happened if she'd had stayed with the TRD Development cycle.
Maybe have been much of the same as now. We'll never know. The talent is there for her. Her outside distractions are getting in the way of her racing career. Sorry to say it, but it's time to decide Hailie, NASCAR, or social media personality.
The lil chubster looks better in a firesuit than the others. Keep her !
Sucks Brett Moffitt got booted for her.
He wasn't as popular as Hailey is. Talent didn't matter, she thought she was a better face for the JOB.
Isnt he a petty tho?
@@Cuhh346Thad Moffitt. Brett isn't
@@billb412 way more popular bud and the talent did matter. She's only popular to the casuals that don't even care that she sucks.
@@shaynejenkins446 Only talent she's got is that she's a pretty face, like a Danica 2.0, harsh to say it, but that's reality...
The people who sacked Moffit for her are probably regretting their decision.
No, it is a business and she brings in more money.
@@cmoore185 she does bring money but she doesn’t bring good performance
@@cmoore185 true she does bring in money, but even that only gets you so far, especially when you dont have the results to show for it
@@cmoore185 no she doesn't lol. That team is going under.
Spoken like someone who doesn’t understand business. Lol
The moment she started complaining and crying about driver's racing her hard, I had a feeling she wasn't going to make it.
Racing her hard? More like trying to take her out.
@@davessparetime83 I saw those videos where she was crying and complaining. That's hard racing. She would break down going against guys like Larson and Chastain
@@davessparetime83Bumps, fender rubbing, Getting pushed up, and off the track is a part of stock car racing. If she wants respect, she’s got to do it back like the rest of the field does.
@@weirdfan88SERIOUS MAN
She’s in the wrong profession in that case lol
Nothing against Deegan, but she's Danica light/Danica 2.0. Basicaly what keeps her in the sport now is marketing.
She's Milka Duno 2.0
@@MrEnzio777 Gonna need a Brit to singlehandedly carry her to an IMSA Title.
@@MrEnzio777 eh, not sure about that. Unlike Duno, Hailie atleast showed some promise in lower tier categories.
@@davidmarecek1754 Technically this also applies to Duno because she did pretty well during her time in Le Mans and Grand Am (the two sportscars series that would eventually merge to become IMSA)
@@MrEnzio777 Sportscar Fan here.
Milka Duno was carried by the Legend Andy Wallace, she was dogshit in those cars and it showed.
She basically was an anchor and Andy Wallace hated her.
They keep pushing these kind of drivers.
You know why. Talent isn’t the key to make it in NASCAR. It’s how marketable you are.
@@TheOfficialRandomGuy Bubba agrees.
and the endless quest for a talented female driver goes on
At this point
I hate to do this but I’m done trusting female drivers because I’m never going to be happy rooting for one looking at the past results
Johanna Long is so far the only one with the talent to go far
They are out there. They just don't have daddy's money to fund their NASCAR career like Deegan.
@@wyvernzero7642 Jade Avedisian is one to keep an eye on.
Isabella Robusto as well.
Both have TRD factory support and are adapting well to three different types of vehicle (GT4, ARCA and a Quarter Midget).
Where are the “anything a man can do, a woman can do better”?
Money can not buy talent. She needs to decide if she wants to be a TH-cam star or a NASCAR driver and do good at it. She is trying to be toooo popular at what she wants to be, not supporting her team that is paying her salary. Get into it or get out completely.
I got so much crap for commenting this last year it’s clear she spends just as much time on TH-cam and other social stuff as she does with her team.. people can hate drivers like Denny Hamlin all they want but he wasn’t the most talented driver he simply worked hard and still does to this day. You can tell which drivers in nascar have work ethic and who doesn’t
Agree . You have to have 100% focus to being a driver .
Only thing I disagree with is, money can buy talent. BUT, not for everyone*
Look at it this way. A non-talented, non-pay driver will never get a chance, right? But a non-talented pay driver will.
We don’t see non-pay drivers fail much, because they have to be talented in the first place. It appears that pay drivers are worse because they have a much longer leash, and are granted an opportunity.
If you already have talent as a pay driver, it’s much easier to harness your skills because you have more opportunities to race.
I used to despise pay drivers, and still do to an extent. But I’ve come to realize they have a leg up on competitors IF they already have the talent.
With that said, Hallie is not a case for this. Had Hallie not had the name, and funding, we would have never seen her to begin with. Thus is the reasoning why pay drivers get a bad name.
@@keenenbenton9843 work ethic? Don't think Hailie knows the word. Too many "lake days" showing of her "enhanced" figure.
Her TH-cam has become more her bf race channel and she just gets shown on it to grab views
NASCAR Busts: Hailie Deegan is inevitable at this point
Darian won't make the video because he's a Deegan simp himself and a notorious plagiariser.
@@JustGenius2001 that's the biggest shame in all of this. I really liked his channel, until I saw the video (with evidence!) of his copy and paste approach to making videos.
The comments on her vlogs videos of her races are insane, all the comments are saying that it’s not her fault she’s bad and the amount of excuses her fans give her is crazy. Those fans definitely don’t watch NASCAR lmao
They fans because booba
My favorite one is, all the other drivers have it out for her and race her harder
Most of them are probably simps or boomers.
@@robertstone9988you can’t deny some drivers do that though.
Remember, shawna Robinson said it herself on the dale jr download. Mike Wallace was gunning for her. He made that clear.
Lawless allen is another 1. Look at how he races side by side with a male, and then how he does side by side with a woman.
I’m not defending hailie but. I’ve watched racing since 1991. I’ve seen a lot of guys race women harder for being female and I give credit to Janet Guthrie, Danica, and others who paved the way while some did try to hold them back. Bobby rahal admitted, he didn’t setup Danica’s car to the best it could because he was afraid of what could happen since she was a woman. To this day he regrets it. That’s part of the reason he has his son race for him.
She needs to finish and compete. If she can get more top 20s regularly. She will turn some heads and then top 15, and so on. She needs to be competitive. She’s been better than Natalie decker in xfinity. Let’s be honest about it
@@robertstone9988by no means am I a simp, or even a fan of Hallie whatsoever to be honest. She just rubs me the wrong way if I’m being honest.
But there’s no denying that it’s absolutely a thing. Shawna Robinson is a classic example of that. Sat on the pole in the early 90’s in Busch, only to have Mike Wallace openly take her out of the race.
I do recall in trucks, I want to say a back marker (can’t recall who,) took her out quite a bit, or attempted to.
To have to worry about that extra layer during the race is definitely not helping her at all. I feel it’s underestimated the amount of stress and second guessing she goes through because of it.
With that said, it’s not to say a 28th place finish would have turned into say a 8th, but it very easily could turn 28th into 22-27, etc.
Her career in NASCAR is coming to a close.
Watch her pull a reverse-Danica and go to IndyCar
@@MrEnzio777 Not happening.
IMSA/SRO America is the only landing spot.
Jack Polito wants into IMSA, and he'd get paid by Ford to have Deegan as his teammate, no brainer.
@@MrEnzio777so she can suck there?
Doubt it
She better give that Hawk tuah
AM Racing isn't the best but it hasn't been a good sign to see a lack of improvement throughout the year. Definitely was rushed up through the ladder.
Being a mildly attractive girl in nascar gets you infinite chances
And having a famous last name too. Let's admit it, if she was a guy who doesn't have a famous last name, she would've been outta NASCAR a long time ago.
@JustGenius2001 your completely correct but this is a really ironic comment considering your profile picture
@@NickGreene55 Oh come on now, that's just a cheap shot. Junior got far in NASCAR because yes, his father, but at least Junior ran up sometimes and won races during his time. Junior has trophies, does Deegan? A few trophies? So what? Junior has a lot more and besides, Junior was a much better driver than Deegan will ever be.
@JustGenius2001 many drivers could do more than what he did in DEI and Hendrick equipment
@@Mikey85inNV Look, I don't want to deal with another fight. Let's not forget that Junior lost his father on the track so perhaps his personal trauma kept him from being on a level like Gordon and Johnson.
Deegan seems to be more concerned about her social media exploits than her driving skills. I think she is a better dirt racer then pavement. If she was really wanting to improve her skills she should do some ARCA or late model races at some of the smaller tracks. Too much "Hollywood"! If she doesn't improve by the end of the season I fear Xfinity will be over for her
Her social media profile is the primary reason she has had a career in NASCAR. She’s marketable. Her social media “exploits” are not a distraction. They are the reason for her success, such as it is.
She wasn't a good dirt racer, all the people racing in usac and power I midgets were better than her.
She is literally all marketing
She wasn't great at mirco sprint racing, raced midgets a few times and was trash. She wasn't good on dirt. The top dirt guys would run circles around nascar drivers in 2024
She was a mid dirt track driver too. Nascar hyped the crap out of her dirt background but she wasn't really that great
Someone needs to show Kenny Wallace this video
major simp that guy
Kenny Wallace is a washed up never has been who has the most annoying mouth ever. I don't know why people watch him at all.
His whole "dirt track drivers are poor" thing is cringe as hell
Kenny Wallace is annoying. How can anyone watch his videos?
@@NicholasSpencer-uc9utKenny is Kenny. He will compliment everyone. I think it's less about being a simp and more about promoting every driver he knows or talks to.
Diversity, equity, and inclusion
😮
I be WOKE!
for good drivers
Yes and you've had drivers from Nascar's diversity program be successful from it, Larson, Almorilla, Wallace. Look at Frankie Muniz, while not from that program, because of his name and fame, which has had the opportunity to go nascar racing. Obviously, he had to do the required things to go nascar racing, but he's getting attention and interest due to his fame and has nothing to do with D.E.I.
Her opertunity was made, but her youtube fame and sponsors willing to sign on and back her are the reasons. GoDaddy lasted a long time with Danica who tore up many race cars. If Deagan wasn't the daughter of a famous motocross star, she'd not have made it past Arca.
Companies will piss money out and market the hell out of the darlings like Danica or Deagan because it sells merch, creates engagement, and drives traffic/eyes to their business.
Always one dingus in the replies. Always!!!
Nascar isnt about talent, just how much money you bring so she will be fine. Watch national level dirt late model and sprint car racing if you want to see the actual best oval racers
And comments like yours here make me sick. We might as well just stop going and watching races and let NASCAR die because without ticket sales and viewers, NASCAR is fucked.
@@JustGenius2001 sounds good to me big time dirt track racing is putting out a great product right now
Money doesn’t stay around long when you are chasing the end of the pack each week. She has not shown anything positive in trucks or xfinity, time to give another driver the seat.
Don't crap on every other driver just because of this. Also, if any sport isn't about talent, it's F1. F1 is based 99% on aspects other than talent.
@loganmanderfield1162 you need to have millions in funding at your disposal to even get involved in nascar. The talent level is headed off a cliff and your in denial
This was a totally fair and honest critique of Deegan. I have thought all along that she was being pushed along to fast and with that and the constant media barrage focused on her, she really hasn't had a chance. Does she have the talent? I don't think we really know as she has never been allowed the chance to learn and develop as a driver before she gets pushed to the next level.
What talent she had has been stunted by rapid progression, and maybe a lack of tenacity on her part. I don't know how I've can overcome the former, but the latter is all mental.
I’ll say this about Hailie Deegan until the end of time:
On dirt = REMARKABLE
On asphalt = okay, but not great, not enough to progress past Xfinity at least for the time being
This sadly isn’t the first time though that a stellar dirt driver has unfortunately come up short on asphalt (ex. Kinser, Bloomqvist, Sweet, etc. (not comparing her to them, just stating that it’s similar in NASCAR)), and it won’t be the last. And unfortunately, as a fan of the whole Deegan family, seeing her, and her dad during his career for that matter, struggle on asphalt hurts.
Overall, I think at the end of the day, she’ll leave nascar with some respectable mid pack stats to her name after next season, and will probably transition to racing quarter midgets with her husband full time, as well as spending time racing off road, like she originally did before her mom got her interested in NASCAR.
She was racing tiny kids while she was in top notch rides. It should make sense to you when all that went away, and she had to bring in sponsors and race people her own age.
She should try Rally
@@6TheButcher Was thinking the same, it might end up being better...
uh she was very mediocre on dirt too. Sounds like we bought into some nascar pr lol
@@nickphilkill818yeah I’m not sure where this “she’s amazing on dirt” thing came from. Outside of beating some past their prime guys in SRX, she’s not exactly lighting it up in micros either
If Hallie Deegan was a guy, she’d either be out of NASCAR or would be in a back marker car with whatever funding she brought, with no one talking about her.
If she was a guy with those skills she would be working at Home Depot
Kyle Larson is a cup champion with 27 wins. He could take it easy between races, go to the beach make tik-tok videos and have fun. Instead he goes out and drives sprint cars in the middle of the week to stay sharp. Maybe Hailie should stop making videos and get more track time in the middle of the week like Kyle does.
This..
If her name was Hal Deegan , she'd be working at Hardee's by now , the racing career long over.
Simping seems to be big among NASCAR fans so she's still around.
She herself said she didn't want to get rushed up too quickly. I'm surprised she has been this bad.
As a guy who berated her terrible driving last season I also can’t believe she’s this bad…
She got rushed up, and It just destroyed her... She Called it.
You forgot the best and most hilarious excuse of them all. The guys race her harder than they do the other guys. Unless you haven't watched a race lately, they all race the sh@% out of each other. The person passing you doesn't care what sex you are. That's a spot and they want it regardless. I'm bummed by this, because the more diversity in the sport, the better. Excuse time is over. Run up front in something. John Hunter did it and now he's back in Cup. There is a path, but she needs more experience and more confidence. She's not going to get it running with back marker teams.
I grew up in the same town as Hailie Deegan, hell the Deegan family rented out a commercial building from my family to run their Jr trophy truck out of and we even went to the same school, though were a few grade levels apart.
Basically what I'm setting up is that I know Deegan and the entire family really well. She has never had any talent. Period. The only reason she ever got anywhere is because her parents and other immediate family (who I won't mention by name since the topic of conversation is not about them) are big shots, and has massive connections with companies like Monster, that allowed her to write blank checks to get the rides she wants.
Is dad is one of the first monster athletes
In all fairness that's all professional drivers. If your family didn't bring home 6 figgers and you don't have corporate connections your not making it to trucks never less cup. The most blue collar down to earth every day guy driver you can thank of, if you just do a little research would reveal at minimum a upper middle class family with connections. In other words if you are 10 years old live in the trailer park single mother on food stamps and dream of being a cup driver, it's never going to happen. Dosnt mean you can't drive race cars. I have run a bomber (late model leaf spring car) on a used car sales man's budget but it strains my budget and I can't afford to make ever race or crash a car or take risks that others can. It's not there fault there rich and connected. There just doing what we all wish we could and would do if we could. Just stating facts.
@@robertstone9988 You're kind fo correct and I agree with you ona fundamental level, but I think you are completely missing both the point that I was making in my OP as well as the nuances of the industry.
Professional racing is indeed a ridicuously expensive sport, and if you want to be in trucks, with no talent, you need way more than a measly 6 figure salary. Hell if it only took a 6 figure income and corporate connections, I would still be racing. I developed amazing relationships with NAPA, I started K1 Race Gear with the owners of K1 Speed, and am even still on Bill McAnally's personal christmas card list (lol). Add an extra 0 to the income bracket at minimum as well as add an extra stipulation to the corporate connection that is "family/family friend tie AND did not piss off someone who does have family/family friend ties to your corporate connections".
But to go back to my OP, let me try and rephrase it a bit in to clarify. While yes, everyone in racing has some sort of connection that got them there, more often than not, they are racing at tht high level because they have, at least, a base line of inherent ability and talent to drive a racecar. What I am saying is that I do not think Hailie Deegan even possesses the minimum level of talent to be professional stock car racing. She doesn't have the drive, the focus, the discipline, the training or the raw natural instinct. So to reitterate, I believe she got to where she is now purely based off of the money and influence, and talent (or lack there of) had zero influence on her advancements in professional racing.
@@Greg1_c When we were in the same school, like once every month or maybe even more often than that, someone in the Deegan family would do a promo in front of the plaza during lunch time. I'm pretty sure every single person who grew up in Temecula knew the Deegan family, especially considering basically every 3rd child was walking around with one of their hats on. I can't remember the Deegan brand off the top of my head anymore but it was something like "metal malitia" or something.
Honestly, they were/are genious marketers because every freakin kid had a metal malitia shirt, hat, poster or sticker.
@@TheCloudCreation I agree with you 100% dare I say if she was a he they would have never made it this far. She's Danica 2.0 when it comes to marketing. We didn't have a lot of money growing up but I managed to get ahold of some go carts not racing just brigs 5 horse and we run the nabour hood with them, the extent of my carting Career lol. Always wanted to be a pro driver I'm 46 years old i was huge Kyle petty fan back in the day. Ran the 44 on my bomber. I thank thare are 4 measurable stats to determine if you are going to be pro. 4 stats to measure all drivers
1 skill: skill is learned any one can achieve skill and skill can be built on and improved. Example would be we can all learn How to drive a car fast. Hot to apex how to trail brake how ext.
2. Talent: Talent can't be learned you got it or you don't Everyone can learn how to play guitar.Not everybody can be jimi hendrix.
3. Connections: racing is expensive and to be fair a bit of a club. No one gets thare with out some one to open some doors.
4: heart: All the talent skill and opportunity in the world.Don't mean anything if you're hart ant in it.
Not all drivers possess all four. But all of the goats do. Hailie has 2 Opportunity and heart. She got farther than me. I know I got heart I know I got skill, like to thank I got Talent but thare was no Connections. I sim race now. Got grate group of guys and 2 wemon and there good.
3.5 seasons, 50 wrecks.
What an achievement!
And 50 more wrecks are sure to come. Just embarrassing🤦♂
Thats even better than Danica! 😂
@@DaytonaPrototypes Unbelievably bad.
Most of the reason why she got to Xfinity was by her sponsors
Danica showed some flashes in NASCAR at least. Deegan seems to have regressed over the years.
Gee, no duh! She's a woman with a famous last name so of course sponsors will help to move her up🙄
Exactly, based on results you might as well promote Lawless Alan to Xfinity lmao
I agree she rushed up too early and it is a shame as she could of been great but I think it is all over for her in her career. She will never get a Cup ride with her performance.
It ain't the car ,it ain't the set up , it ain't the crew chief , it ain't the crew. Logano finished 8th in Chicago. It's the DRIVER of that #15 car , Failee The Donut Deegan. Now maybe they'll fire her!
WELL, WELL, WELL
It was just announced that Logano is racing the Xfinity 15 car for Chicago. I think AM finally came to their senses and realized Deegan wasn't good at all lol
Hopefully they benched her the rest of the year…. That was painful
Lets be honest shes only still in nascar because shes a pretty face if it were a 215 pound dude they would have been out ages ago
Moffitt got sacked for this?
Yep, Moffitt indeed got pushed to the side for this. I bet AM Racing is regretting their decision. Then again, they're getting good money and good publicity for having her so🤷♂
I hate to say it, but I don't think NASCAR is for her
Atleast danica got better results in Xfinity. And talent
And she took the lead late in the Indy 500. People like to forget that. Danica was a good, solid racecar driver (excellent finishing record in IndyCar), but never a great driver.
The problem is people need to stop comparing her to other drivers and most of her crashes is other drivers just don't like her and all about them like where team works I don't see it with her team then she the say Been the front and middle and so think back is better to make to the front let in the last truck and in xfinty at talladega she didn't crash or didn't get damaged at all still got go place and her team and her coworker it's don't like I think it wrong they are not trying to her so that having bad time
she was only ever popular because she is an attractive young woman
She's not taking it as serious as she needs to to be successful. She's devoting half her focus and time into her youtube channel instead of putting all her focus on developing and becoming a better driver
She is only in NASCAR because she is attractive. Take away her looks and no one would know who she is.
5 / 10 tops.
Wall approaching at breakneck speed.
5 yrs from now she'll be 50 lbs heavier and drinking heavily.
Just wait...