I think she rushed herself up, she has the sponsor money but she’s not in really bad equipment but she is not delivering, I think if she goes back to Arca and redevelop herself she could have another chance but that is unlikely. Hailie didn’t do to well in Thorsport equipment either so yeah, I definitely think her career right now is not really good at all.
The dbc guys had the nerve to say its because of the car while completely ignoring the fact she had a top 5 truck last year with all her teammates getting into the playoffs while one also winning the championship
@@davessparetime83 I saw those videos where she was crying and complaining. That's hard racing. She would break down going against guys like Larson and Chastain
@@davessparetime83Bumps, fender rubbing, Getting pushed up, and off the track is a part of stock car racing. If she wants respect, she’s got to do it back like the rest of the field does.
@@davidmarecek1754 Technically this also applies to Duno because she did pretty well during her time in Le Mans and Grand Am (the two sportscars series that would eventually merge to become IMSA)
@@MrEnzio777 Sportscar Fan here. Milka Duno was carried by the Legend Andy Wallace, she was dogshit in those cars and it showed. She basically was an anchor and Andy Wallace hated her.
Money can not buy talent. She needs to decide if she wants to be a TH-cam star or a NASCAR driver and do good at it. She is trying to be toooo popular at what she wants to be, not supporting her team that is paying her salary. Get into it or get out completely.
I got so much crap for commenting this last year it’s clear she spends just as much time on TH-cam and other social stuff as she does with her team.. people can hate drivers like Denny Hamlin all they want but he wasn’t the most talented driver he simply worked hard and still does to this day. You can tell which drivers in nascar have work ethic and who doesn’t
Only thing I disagree with is, money can buy talent. BUT, not for everyone* Look at it this way. A non-talented, non-pay driver will never get a chance, right? But a non-talented pay driver will. We don’t see non-pay drivers fail much, because they have to be talented in the first place. It appears that pay drivers are worse because they have a much longer leash, and are granted an opportunity. If you already have talent as a pay driver, it’s much easier to harness your skills because you have more opportunities to race. I used to despise pay drivers, and still do to an extent. But I’ve come to realize they have a leg up on competitors IF they already have the talent. With that said, Hallie is not a case for this. Had Hallie not had the name, and funding, we would have never seen her to begin with. Thus is the reasoning why pay drivers get a bad name.
@@thetechfromheaven Nah just go full in like GT racing or Even dirt. Shes solid on dirt. Could learn and build from there. Theres nothing wrong with just being a full time Dirt Driver. Not everyone has to make it in NASCAR.
The comments on her vlogs videos of her races are insane, all the comments are saying that it’s not her fault she’s bad and the amount of excuses her fans give her is crazy. Those fans definitely don’t watch NASCAR lmao
@@robertstone9988you can’t deny some drivers do that though. Remember, shawna Robinson said it herself on the dale jr download. Mike Wallace was gunning for her. He made that clear. Lawless allen is another 1. Look at how he races side by side with a male, and then how he does side by side with a woman. I’m not defending hailie but. I’ve watched racing since 1991. I’ve seen a lot of guys race women harder for being female and I give credit to Janet Guthrie, Danica, and others who paved the way while some did try to hold them back. Bobby rahal admitted, he didn’t setup Danica’s car to the best it could because he was afraid of what could happen since she was a woman. To this day he regrets it. That’s part of the reason he has his son race for him. She needs to finish and compete. If she can get more top 20s regularly. She will turn some heads and then top 15, and so on. She needs to be competitive. She’s been better than Natalie decker in xfinity. Let’s be honest about it
@@robertstone9988by no means am I a simp, or even a fan of Hallie whatsoever to be honest. She just rubs me the wrong way if I’m being honest. But there’s no denying that it’s absolutely a thing. Shawna Robinson is a classic example of that. Sat on the pole in the early 90’s in Busch, only to have Mike Wallace openly take her out of the race. I do recall in trucks, I want to say a back marker (can’t recall who,) took her out quite a bit, or attempted to. To have to worry about that extra layer during the race is definitely not helping her at all. I feel it’s underestimated the amount of stress and second guessing she goes through because of it. With that said, it’s not to say a 28th place finish would have turned into say a 8th, but it very easily could turn 28th into 22-27, etc.
@@wyvernzero7642 Jade Avedisian is one to keep an eye on. Isabella Robusto as well. Both have TRD factory support and are adapting well to three different types of vehicle (GT4, ARCA and a Quarter Midget).
@@MrEnzio777 Not happening. IMSA/SRO America is the only landing spot. Jack Polito wants into IMSA, and he'd get paid by Ford to have Deegan as his teammate, no brainer.
@@JustGenius2001 that's the biggest shame in all of this. I really liked his channel, until I saw the video (with evidence!) of his copy and paste approach to making videos.
Imo she never should’ve been given an Xfinity opportunity after barely finishing top 20 in points in a Thorsport truck last year. Newsflash: the Xfinity series is way harder than the truck series
She’s way better than the gray brothers in the trucks especially tanner gray he’s shouldn’t even be in the trucks, also Jake Garcia isn’t any better either!
Yes, there are many dirt racers. Even that local guy that's just kind of good at your track would probably do relatively well in NASCAR. But I don't think a lot of dirt guys care about NASCAR that much or asphalt type racing aside from the money and everything else that goes with it just dealing with the clowns running NASCAR would be a pain.
Just from her body laungage you can tell she feels defeated by how bad shes been running with the weight on the world on her shoulders. I honestly feel bad but reguardless its time to move on at season end. She needs a full reset.
Yes and you've had drivers from Nascar's diversity program be successful from it, Larson, Almorilla, Wallace. Look at Frankie Muniz, while not from that program, because of his name and fame, which has had the opportunity to go nascar racing. Obviously, he had to do the required things to go nascar racing, but he's getting attention and interest due to his fame and has nothing to do with D.E.I. Her opertunity was made, but her youtube fame and sponsors willing to sign on and back her are the reasons. GoDaddy lasted a long time with Danica who tore up many race cars. If Deagan wasn't the daughter of a famous motocross star, she'd not have made it past Arca. Companies will piss money out and market the hell out of the darlings like Danica or Deagan because it sells merch, creates engagement, and drives traffic/eyes to their business.
This was a totally fair and honest critique of Deegan. I have thought all along that she was being pushed along to fast and with that and the constant media barrage focused on her, she really hasn't had a chance. Does she have the talent? I don't think we really know as she has never been allowed the chance to learn and develop as a driver before she gets pushed to the next level.
What talent she had has been stunted by rapid progression, and maybe a lack of tenacity on her part. I don't know how I've can overcome the former, but the latter is all mental.
And having a famous last name too. Let's admit it, if she was a guy who doesn't have a famous last name, she would've been outta NASCAR a long time ago.
@@NickGreene55 Oh come on now, that's just a cheap shot. Junior got far in NASCAR because yes, his father, but at least Junior ran up sometimes and won races during his time. Junior has trophies, does Deegan? A few trophies? So what? Junior has a lot more and besides, Junior was a much better driver than Deegan will ever be.
@@Mikey85inNV Look, I don't want to deal with another fight. Let's not forget that Junior lost his father on the track so perhaps his personal trauma kept him from being on a level like Gordon and Johnson.
@@NicholasSpencer-uc9utKenny is Kenny. He will compliment everyone. I think it's less about being a simp and more about promoting every driver he knows or talks to.
Deegan seems to be more concerned about her social media exploits than her driving skills. I think she is a better dirt racer then pavement. If she was really wanting to improve her skills she should do some ARCA or late model races at some of the smaller tracks. Too much "Hollywood"! If she doesn't improve by the end of the season I fear Xfinity will be over for her
Her social media profile is the primary reason she has had a career in NASCAR. She’s marketable. Her social media “exploits” are not a distraction. They are the reason for her success, such as it is.
She wasn't great at mirco sprint racing, raced midgets a few times and was trash. She wasn't good on dirt. The top dirt guys would run circles around nascar drivers in 2024
The amount of excuses for Deegan is abysmal. They've blamed everything else except for talent. I truly just keep an eye out for her in races to see how bad she'll run.
Yeah I've seen so many people defend her, like one of my friends is one of those and I asked him one thing "Your just a simp aren't you" and he went quiet like...
@@SamMayer-ig6tw especially since the tires are so hard now! Little falloff means those dirt drivers can do their thing-find grip anywhere by any means without worrying about chewing up tires as much.
I have epilepsy, so I haven't had a drivers license since 2011 and I'd be willing to bet that I could have a close season avg finish to hers. Not a knock on female drivers at all, there's male drivers just as bad. But it does get to a point where it's pretty clear that she's mainly out there for the PR.
Nascar isnt about talent, just how much money you bring so she will be fine. Watch national level dirt late model and sprint car racing if you want to see the actual best oval racers
And comments like yours here make me sick. We might as well just stop going and watching races and let NASCAR die because without ticket sales and viewers, NASCAR is fucked.
Money doesn’t stay around long when you are chasing the end of the pack each week. She has not shown anything positive in trucks or xfinity, time to give another driver the seat.
@loganmanderfield1162 you need to have millions in funding at your disposal to even get involved in nascar. The talent level is headed off a cliff and your in denial
I grew up in the same town as Hailie Deegan, hell the Deegan family rented out a commercial building from my family to run their Jr trophy truck out of and we even went to the same school, though were a few grade levels apart. Basically what I'm setting up is that I know Deegan and the entire family really well. She has never had any talent. Period. The only reason she ever got anywhere is because her parents and other immediate family (who I won't mention by name since the topic of conversation is not about them) are big shots, and has massive connections with companies like Monster, that allowed her to write blank checks to get the rides she wants.
In all fairness that's all professional drivers. If your family didn't bring home 6 figgers and you don't have corporate connections your not making it to trucks never less cup. The most blue collar down to earth every day guy driver you can thank of, if you just do a little research would reveal at minimum a upper middle class family with connections. In other words if you are 10 years old live in the trailer park single mother on food stamps and dream of being a cup driver, it's never going to happen. Dosnt mean you can't drive race cars. I have run a bomber (late model leaf spring car) on a used car sales man's budget but it strains my budget and I can't afford to make ever race or crash a car or take risks that others can. It's not there fault there rich and connected. There just doing what we all wish we could and would do if we could. Just stating facts.
@@robertstone9988 You're kind fo correct and I agree with you ona fundamental level, but I think you are completely missing both the point that I was making in my OP as well as the nuances of the industry. Professional racing is indeed a ridicuously expensive sport, and if you want to be in trucks, with no talent, you need way more than a measly 6 figure salary. Hell if it only took a 6 figure income and corporate connections, I would still be racing. I developed amazing relationships with NAPA, I started K1 Race Gear with the owners of K1 Speed, and am even still on Bill McAnally's personal christmas card list (lol). Add an extra 0 to the income bracket at minimum as well as add an extra stipulation to the corporate connection that is "family/family friend tie AND did not piss off someone who does have family/family friend ties to your corporate connections". But to go back to my OP, let me try and rephrase it a bit in to clarify. While yes, everyone in racing has some sort of connection that got them there, more often than not, they are racing at tht high level because they have, at least, a base line of inherent ability and talent to drive a racecar. What I am saying is that I do not think Hailie Deegan even possesses the minimum level of talent to be professional stock car racing. She doesn't have the drive, the focus, the discipline, the training or the raw natural instinct. So to reitterate, I believe she got to where she is now purely based off of the money and influence, and talent (or lack there of) had zero influence on her advancements in professional racing.
@@Greg1_c When we were in the same school, like once every month or maybe even more often than that, someone in the Deegan family would do a promo in front of the plaza during lunch time. I'm pretty sure every single person who grew up in Temecula knew the Deegan family, especially considering basically every 3rd child was walking around with one of their hats on. I can't remember the Deegan brand off the top of my head anymore but it was something like "metal malitia" or something. Honestly, they were/are genious marketers because every freakin kid had a metal malitia shirt, hat, poster or sticker.
@@TheCloudCreation I agree with you 100% dare I say if she was a he they would have never made it this far. She's Danica 2.0 when it comes to marketing. We didn't have a lot of money growing up but I managed to get ahold of some go carts not racing just brigs 5 horse and we run the nabour hood with them, the extent of my carting Career lol. Always wanted to be a pro driver I'm 46 years old i was huge Kyle petty fan back in the day. Ran the 44 on my bomber. I thank thare are 4 measurable stats to determine if you are going to be pro. 4 stats to measure all drivers 1 skill: skill is learned any one can achieve skill and skill can be built on and improved. Example would be we can all learn How to drive a car fast. Hot to apex how to trail brake how ext. 2. Talent: Talent can't be learned you got it or you don't Everyone can learn how to play guitar.Not everybody can be jimi hendrix. 3. Connections: racing is expensive and to be fair a bit of a club. No one gets thare with out some one to open some doors. 4: heart: All the talent skill and opportunity in the world.Don't mean anything if you're hart ant in it. Not all drivers possess all four. But all of the goats do. Hailie has 2 Opportunity and heart. She got farther than me. I know I got heart I know I got skill, like to thank I got Talent but thare was no Connections. I sim race now. Got grate group of guys and 2 wemon and there good.
I’ll say this about Hailie Deegan until the end of time: On dirt = REMARKABLE On asphalt = okay, but not great, not enough to progress past Xfinity at least for the time being This sadly isn’t the first time though that a stellar dirt driver has unfortunately come up short on asphalt (ex. Kinser, Bloomqvist, Sweet, etc. (not comparing her to them, just stating that it’s similar in NASCAR)), and it won’t be the last. And unfortunately, as a fan of the whole Deegan family, seeing her, and her dad during his career for that matter, struggle on asphalt hurts. Overall, I think at the end of the day, she’ll leave nascar with some respectable mid pack stats to her name after next season, and will probably transition to racing quarter midgets with her husband full time, as well as spending time racing off road, like she originally did before her mom got her interested in NASCAR.
She was racing tiny kids while she was in top notch rides. It should make sense to you when all that went away, and she had to bring in sponsors and race people her own age.
@@nickphilkill818yeah I’m not sure where this “she’s amazing on dirt” thing came from. Outside of beating some past their prime guys in SRX, she’s not exactly lighting it up in micros either
Lmao iceberg sounds mad funny in this and personal. The part abt people complaining about ARCA for the wrecks, however then complaining if its boring because of the lack of wrecks is funny lmao
If her name was Hal Deegan , she'd be working at Hardee's by now , the racing career long over. Simping seems to be big among NASCAR fans so she's still around.
Matt from BrakeHard brought up some good points about the experiment between Hailie Deegan and AM Racing in the Xfinity series not too long ago, actually. And given what we have seen from her, even I must admit that I'm starting to lose faith in Deegan's ability to drive in the top 3 touring series. At the end of the day though, they're basically going to sign her to full-time deals simply because she is a woman. And this might be a hot take, but I think it's safe to say that today's world, women do not really belong behind the seats of race cars on as big of a scale as NASCAR, lest they have the same problems and similar careers to Danica Patrick. They're just not built the same way as men are. On the bright side, unlike another female driver in Natalie Decker, I don’t see Deegan being an online prostitute on OnlyFans or some other live sex cam service, and I thank heaven for that.
I think you are actually right with your hot take. It takes a lot of muscle endurance to turn the car and sit in the heat for a long time, and women just aren't as rigid as men are. To some it hurts to hear, but it's the hard truth.
In terms of women racing at the highest levels, I think it comes down more to they actually have to start racing when they are very young. If I remember Deegan didn't start racing in a stock cars until she was in her mid-teens. Very slim chance that cuts it in modern-day NASCAR when you have boys that are raising when they first start walking. Not only is a woman going to have to start racing at a very young age, but she is going to also have to have that extra passion and drive to compete with the best men. That's just ridiculously hard to do. Nascar, the teams, and the sponsors have essentially screwed any future female that actually has some serious potential due to them parading out crappy female drivers. Play bragged about Danica as if she was one of the all-time great drivers and she was f****** terrible
@@Ka_GgYep for sure plus Motorsports is possibly the only other sport they could actually compete with Men. It's defienitly not like MMA or Boxing where Men have a clear strength advantage no matter what.
WELL, WELL, WELL It was just announced that Logano is racing the Xfinity 15 car for Chicago. I think AM finally came to their senses and realized Deegan wasn't good at all lol
If Hallie Deegan was a guy, she’d either be out of NASCAR or would be in a back marker car with whatever funding she brought, with no one talking about her.
If she ends up in cup ride in the near future it would be a complete insult to drivers who worked a lot harder than Deegan to get a cup ride considering that Deegan puts more effort in her social media than driving
I agree she rushed up too early and it is a shame as she could of been great but I think it is all over for her in her career. She will never get a Cup ride with her performance.
By the way, great vid. Its about time people start getting honest about Deegan. Lots of content creators are too scared of her rabid fan base to get "real" about her. Great points, iceberg.
It ain't the car ,it ain't the set up , it ain't the crew chief , it ain't the crew. Logano finished 8th in Chicago. It's the DRIVER of that #15 car , Failee The Donut Deegan. Now maybe they'll fire her!
Kyle Larson is a cup champion with 27 wins. He could take it easy between races, go to the beach make tik-tok videos and have fun. Instead he goes out and drives sprint cars in the middle of the week to stay sharp. Maybe Hailie should stop making videos and get more track time in the middle of the week like Kyle does.
I believe that after two years in Trucks with a struggling team, Hailie should've gone back to ARCA. If Hailie took her career in a more serious approach, she could have better results with better teams. She would still be in the ARCA Series, but her talent would be recognized. The problem with younger drivers are that they think "I'll be the next big thing". For some, it comes true. However, not for others. Hailie was rushed because of a few things: sponsorship, family, and social media. Sponsorship is how drivers get rides, but that also includes how they race overall and if those sponsors got what they came for. Family backs you up, but having a father who has a different background in a different style of racing is odd, to say the least. However, you gotta give Hailie credit for trying something new. Social media is another thing, it can either bring you up, get viewers and fans, as well as sponsors. On the other hand, it can also be the opposite, due to how much time we spend on it daily. Hailie was also an aggressive driver early on, causing her to lose her ride with Toyota. Toyota was, and still is somewhat better than Ford in two of the three main series of NASCAR at the moment. If she took her time, she would've spend two to three full-time years in ARCA with a better team, as well as a year-and-a-half in the Truck Series with a better team.
Sadly, it’s time to have the “bust?” conservation. As a former hype train passenger, it’s a real disappointment that the talent she has clearly shown in the past is just not here in any way. Why? We can’t say for certain, but we must now consider who may be more deserving to have her seat.
Shit I’m not turning the other cheek. I hate when people get rides in general because of money and nepotism in general. Then idiots on the internet say “o she’s better racer than all of y’all”. I bet everything if I had SAME opportunity i would run them cars better. I myself have raced competitively but I didn’t grow up with a family with all the resources and I’m not as easy on the eyes as her
I can’t help but feel some empathy because her younger brother has an incredibly successful super/motocross career and she has really struggled in her racing career. Doesn’t excuse her performance or mean she deserves a seat, just seems like it could be difficult at times.
She's not taking it as serious as she needs to to be successful. She's devoting half her focus and time into her youtube channel instead of putting all her focus on developing and becoming a better driver
Deegan is a bust. It really pains me to say that because back in her K&N and Arca days I was on the Deegan hype train. She might have time to improve but I’m not counting on it.
It's funny how on her TH-cam channel, she shows a lot of competitiveness but, her " girly " side is still very strong. I honestly think that she's afraid of getting damaged. I agree that she's a good person but, she just doesn't have it in her to do this.
Yep, Moffitt indeed got pushed to the side for this. I bet AM Racing is regretting their decision. Then again, they're getting good money and good publicity for having her so🤷♂
@5:44 Sanchez getting into the back of Deegan....again! He wrecked her 3 times that year just like that. But it's her fault, right? You won't see Sanchez getting into the back of a truck driven by a guy, because Sanchez would be wrecked in turn or punched out after the race. Oh look, she got wrecked out by someone else again @8:23. It's just strange how no one mentions this.
I’ve kept my opinion on her to myself for so long because of people making pathetic excuses for her. She’s had long enough, 3 years in trucks with hardly anything to show for, one of those years in championship winning equipment. Her first year in Xfinity has been very below par. I know people are gonna say “it’s her first year give her time” that is fair enough. However, I know it’s gonna be the same next year and the year after. Shane Van Gisbergen is also a rookie, his first full time year in any form of NASCAR. This is her FOURTH full time year in the top 3 series. Shane has absolutely outclassed her. She is not good enough to race in the top 3 series, simple as that. I know all the Deegan fans are gonna hate me for it. Wake up to reality, she is not good enough.
Well, tbh, you can't compare her to SVG, the guy is literally top notch, at a Kyle Larson, Kyle Busch Harvick, you name it talent level, in short, world-class driver. I'd say that a good level for her would be maybe a guy like Michael McDowell, or someone that runs about like he does, not great, not terrible, but good enough to say that he's worthy of his seat in the series. And having that as a baseline of sorts, she's far below that, so I'd say that her time is up. Honestly I believe thatat this point she's a pretty faced (there ain't no fault in that) marketing tool that runs mediocre at best...
She gets rides because she has marketing money/sponsors. She gets marketing money/sponsors because she is attractive, not talented. Until this psyche stops, this will continue to happen. We can make video after video how she is a waste of space taking up the seat of someone more deserving. But at the end of the day, "More Deserving" doesnt bring the dollars with him or in a very rare circumstance, her.
Regardless of who or what, it’s just another driver with sponsors that can’t drive. That’s the norm now. As long as you can bring money, you get a ride. Pretty clear with chase briscoes statements at the JGR announcement.
the worst part of Hailie Deegan's career is that despite abysmal results this year, you can't blame it on the gear, logano was driving for her yesterday and finished 8th
I have had a serious serious question on why she was called up to Xfinity Series and people in the Trucks like Rhodes and others like him never got the calls. If she was good I would have no problem but she's not deserving of the opportunities she got after the truck series
And she took the lead late in the Indy 500. People like to forget that. Danica was a good, solid racecar driver (excellent finishing record in IndyCar), but never a great driver.
I went back to look at the 2019 K&N standings, and it's mostly filled with future GEICO car salesmen. Her only real competition in 2019 was Derek Kraus (who isn't even full-time anymore), and Jagger Jones who runs in Indy NXT. And people wonder why no takes a Mickey Mouse Series like the West Series seriously.
She has been given more than ample time to show improvement and sadly she has only regressed. I watch all Xfinity races and most of the time I forget shes even in the field.
You forgot the best and most hilarious excuse of them all. The guys race her harder than they do the other guys. Unless you haven't watched a race lately, they all race the sh@% out of each other. The person passing you doesn't care what sex you are. That's a spot and they want it regardless. I'm bummed by this, because the more diversity in the sport, the better. Excuse time is over. Run up front in something. John Hunter did it and now he's back in Cup. There is a path, but she needs more experience and more confidence. She's not going to get it running with back marker teams.
I think Ford/Monster pushed this too fast they wanted her to be in/or near cup level way to quick. Let her learn. Get her comfortable in the car. You listen to her radio, she’s never happy and she’s second guessing herself
I love west series warriors. And Deegan's best competition isn't even racing full-time anymore. See how little west series "success" matters in a real series.
She received way too much hype for knocking guys out of the way for wins in a fairly weak K&N West field. I will say her being the first female driver to win a NASCAR regional series race is still a major accomplishment. That's where my praise for her ends though. She really needed to spend more time in late models and I don't think she really has the knowledge base of understanding the car and how setups work that you really need to be a top driver (the same problem as Danica had IMO). Now a good day for her is just finishing on the lead lap which is bad for somebody who's in year 5 of national level racing with most of that being in equipment capable of winning. She has not progressed at all since 2020 and I don't see her having a place in the sport beyond next year.
What do you think of hailie deegans career, ok here is an answer from someone who worked with her at thorsport take it or leave it i dont care 1 before you call us a mediocre team just remember no one else had a problem running that truck up front and winning in it 2. The same crew she started off the season with ended up winning the championship with bed rhodes 3. Same 8 guys build the trucks for all 5 teams, so dont give me the crap about equipment 4. When shes only at the shop 4 times in a season and thats basically to do a tic tok video explains alot, especially since ford spent all that money to get her from toyota and buy a simulator that she never sat in 5. Try doing your job at track when you have to move around the entourage in the way
The only person that Hailie Deegan's performance should matter to is the owner that hires her to drive for them. There are many other drivers that don't run any better and some are worse. In the end, it's the car owners and sponsors that determines a drivers fate.
I am a diehard Hailie Fan you are right I did say it was the car or truck but I was thinking with my heart but now I think this has been her best chance to show she has the ability to do something and now I agree with you 😢
Maybe it is time for NASCAR to develop standards and benchmarks for moving into a class. You have to win one race, finish in the top 5 in like 10 races or top 10 in 5 races.
I’m just hoping that she doesn’t go down the Danica Patrick route of racing in the Cup Series too early. In my opinion, she needs to stay in the Xfinity series just for another year or 2 just to get more experience.
@@bwedd3772 it’s better but an imsa champion can’t be treated as a serious world championship driver. If they were they would be in Indy or F1 or Nascar like they weren’t good enough for. It’s a professional amateur race series. A nice one, but that’s what it is.
It’s unfortunate, and yes you can make the case that she was pushed up too soon. Then again, this is racing and you can get thrown into the deep end, and people expect you to swim. Unfortunately it hasn’t worked out for her and she gets tv time for all the wrong reasons, rather than the right ones. She honestly hasn’t been good for give or take 4 years.
I feel like she'll still make it to Cup simply off her marketability, because money talks at the end of the day. But if she does, she'll take away a Cup ride from someone more deserving and stink up the joint worse than Danica ever did.
Funny thing is i would say she is anti danica shes to scared to do anything at all while danica was to willing to do anything So maybe the next big female driver will find that sweet spot
I genuinely believe she has talent, but higher ups and teams pushed her through the series too quickly. She really needs to get back to ARCA to hone her skills because she’s just not ready for the top 3 series
@Jeff.3 you are talking about tony stewart being a great driver in another comment? Why are you allowed to judge talent and not us? Simps just wanna make it up as they go along lol
@@C.JFomme I said that tony stewart called deegan a hell of a driver. I'd rather take the word of tony stewart over people on TH-cam and Twitter any day
I think that was a fair analysis. I supported her as much as I could, but now I must admit she’s not doing well. If there were at least some top 10 or top 5 finishes, that would be okay, but here in 2024, we absolutely have nothing to celebrate. And I don’t think she has the level to compete in Xfinity, which is sad. I remember the SRX where she did well last year and in previous years… this is just a shame as a supporter. I prefer to think of her as a TH-camr who also races in NASCAR when she has the time.
Are we just gonna completely ignore the fact that the ONLY Ford team in Xfinity that has any relevance is SHR? DBC talked about this, AM clearly doesn't have SHR support.
Are we going to completely ignore the FACT she is a Ford performance backed driver? Yeah go ahead and tell me that doesn't come with money and technical support.
@curtiscraig769 just because she's in the Ford pipeline doesn't automatically mean that Ford is pumping millions into where ever she is. Plenty other Ford Performance "backed" drivers out there, and still only one team in that series that's worth anything this year. Or do you think that because Cindric lucked into a win and Blaney won a race in a completely different car and series means that every Ford in every series is an automatic powerhouse vehicle that is pure domination?
@curtiscraig769 way to miss the point. Just go back to your corner where anyone who isn't white, has a dick, and doesn't claim that they devote their life to a religion that they use to justify hatred and genocide are automatically shit and deserve to be in a box. If you can't find it, just listen for all the snowflakes crying about how Dale is rolling over in his grave because NASCAR switched to EFI
What do you think of Hailie Deegan's career in NASCAR?
It's all because of her last name. She's got daddys money.
An honest waste
Too young and is rushed. She has talent just look at the SRX but she needs to figure it out or she’s done
Bust
I think she rushed herself up, she has the sponsor money but she’s not in really bad equipment but she is not delivering, I think if she goes back to Arca and redevelop herself she could have another chance but that is unlikely. Hailie didn’t do to well in Thorsport equipment either so yeah, I definitely think her career right now is not really good at all.
The fact Brett Moffitt almost took this car to the playoffs and she can’t even get the top 30
The dbc guys had the nerve to say its because of the car while completely ignoring the fact she had a top 5 truck last year with all her teammates getting into the playoffs while one also winning the championship
@@dedo7326Ya the bias is pretty strong from them.
It's because Bret Moffitt is the Real Deal, I bet he would've won the championship in any of those Thorsport or DGR/Crosley things she drove.
@@thetechfromheaven wish he was in trucks full time
@@JackCallSports wish he was in Cup in a good ride. He would do better than Harrison Burton or Corey Lajoie for sure.
The people who sacked Moffit for her are probably regretting their decision.
No, it is a business and she brings in more money.
@@cmoore185 she does bring money but she doesn’t bring good performance
@@cmoore185 true she does bring in money, but even that only gets you so far, especially when you dont have the results to show for it
@@cmoore185 no she doesn't lol. That team is going under.
Spoken like someone who doesn’t understand business. Lol
Sucks Brett Moffitt got booted for her.
He wasn't as popular as Hailey is. Talent didn't matter, she thought she was a better face for the JOB.
Isnt he a petty tho?
@@Cuhh346Thad Moffitt. Brett isn't
@@billb412 way more popular bud and the talent did matter. She's only popular to the casuals that don't even care that she sucks.
@@shaynejenkins446 Only talent she's got is that she's a pretty face, like a Danica 2.0, harsh to say it, but that's reality...
The moment she started complaining and crying about driver's racing her hard, I had a feeling she wasn't going to make it.
Racing her hard? More like trying to take her out.
@@davessparetime83 I saw those videos where she was crying and complaining. That's hard racing. She would break down going against guys like Larson and Chastain
@@davessparetime83Bumps, fender rubbing, Getting pushed up, and off the track is a part of stock car racing. If she wants respect, she’s got to do it back like the rest of the field does.
@@weirdfan88SERIOUS MAN
She’s in the wrong profession in that case lol
Nothing against Deegan, but she's Danica light/Danica 2.0. Basicaly what keeps her in the sport now is marketing.
She's Milka Duno 2.0
@@MrEnzio777 Gonna need a Brit to singlehandedly carry her to an IMSA Title.
@@MrEnzio777 eh, not sure about that. Unlike Duno, Hailie atleast showed some promise in lower tier categories.
@@davidmarecek1754 Technically this also applies to Duno because she did pretty well during her time in Le Mans and Grand Am (the two sportscars series that would eventually merge to become IMSA)
@@MrEnzio777 Sportscar Fan here.
Milka Duno was carried by the Legend Andy Wallace, she was dogshit in those cars and it showed.
She basically was an anchor and Andy Wallace hated her.
They keep pushing these kind of drivers.
You know why. Talent isn’t the key to make it in NASCAR. It’s how marketable you are.
@@TheOfficialRandomGuy Bubba agrees.
Because the league is woke and broke
Money can not buy talent. She needs to decide if she wants to be a TH-cam star or a NASCAR driver and do good at it. She is trying to be toooo popular at what she wants to be, not supporting her team that is paying her salary. Get into it or get out completely.
I got so much crap for commenting this last year it’s clear she spends just as much time on TH-cam and other social stuff as she does with her team.. people can hate drivers like Denny Hamlin all they want but he wasn’t the most talented driver he simply worked hard and still does to this day. You can tell which drivers in nascar have work ethic and who doesn’t
Agree . You have to have 100% focus to being a driver .
Only thing I disagree with is, money can buy talent. BUT, not for everyone*
Look at it this way. A non-talented, non-pay driver will never get a chance, right? But a non-talented pay driver will.
We don’t see non-pay drivers fail much, because they have to be talented in the first place. It appears that pay drivers are worse because they have a much longer leash, and are granted an opportunity.
If you already have talent as a pay driver, it’s much easier to harness your skills because you have more opportunities to race.
I used to despise pay drivers, and still do to an extent. But I’ve come to realize they have a leg up on competitors IF they already have the talent.
With that said, Hallie is not a case for this. Had Hallie not had the name, and funding, we would have never seen her to begin with. Thus is the reasoning why pay drivers get a bad name.
@@kbentjg24 work ethic? Don't think Hailie knows the word. Too many "lake days" showing of her "enhanced" figure.
Her TH-cam has become more her bf race channel and she just gets shown on it to grab views
It's over for her, end of story.
Modern JJ Yeley. She should go back to Arca and try to win there, otherwise I don't see her having a chance of having a top ride.
@@thetechfromheaven Nah, not even ARCA.
GT4 America/IMSA as an "Am"
We meet again Aloe fan. Forever 5
NASCAR is just not for her. She should just follow her father's footsteps and go do dirt racing or become a full-time social media personality.
@@thetechfromheaven Nah just go full in like GT racing or Even dirt. Shes solid on dirt. Could learn and build from there. Theres nothing wrong with just being a full time Dirt Driver. Not everyone has to make it in NASCAR.
The comments on her vlogs videos of her races are insane, all the comments are saying that it’s not her fault she’s bad and the amount of excuses her fans give her is crazy. Those fans definitely don’t watch NASCAR lmao
They fans because booba
My favorite one is, all the other drivers have it out for her and race her harder
Most of them are probably simps or boomers.
@@robertstone9988you can’t deny some drivers do that though.
Remember, shawna Robinson said it herself on the dale jr download. Mike Wallace was gunning for her. He made that clear.
Lawless allen is another 1. Look at how he races side by side with a male, and then how he does side by side with a woman.
I’m not defending hailie but. I’ve watched racing since 1991. I’ve seen a lot of guys race women harder for being female and I give credit to Janet Guthrie, Danica, and others who paved the way while some did try to hold them back. Bobby rahal admitted, he didn’t setup Danica’s car to the best it could because he was afraid of what could happen since she was a woman. To this day he regrets it. That’s part of the reason he has his son race for him.
She needs to finish and compete. If she can get more top 20s regularly. She will turn some heads and then top 15, and so on. She needs to be competitive. She’s been better than Natalie decker in xfinity. Let’s be honest about it
@@robertstone9988by no means am I a simp, or even a fan of Hallie whatsoever to be honest. She just rubs me the wrong way if I’m being honest.
But there’s no denying that it’s absolutely a thing. Shawna Robinson is a classic example of that. Sat on the pole in the early 90’s in Busch, only to have Mike Wallace openly take her out of the race.
I do recall in trucks, I want to say a back marker (can’t recall who,) took her out quite a bit, or attempted to.
To have to worry about that extra layer during the race is definitely not helping her at all. I feel it’s underestimated the amount of stress and second guessing she goes through because of it.
With that said, it’s not to say a 28th place finish would have turned into say a 8th, but it very easily could turn 28th into 22-27, etc.
and the endless quest for a talented female driver goes on
At this point
I hate to do this but I’m done trusting female drivers because I’m never going to be happy rooting for one looking at the past results
Johanna Long is so far the only one with the talent to go far
They are out there. They just don't have daddy's money to fund their NASCAR career like Deegan.
@@wyvernzero7642 Jade Avedisian is one to keep an eye on.
Isabella Robusto as well.
Both have TRD factory support and are adapting well to three different types of vehicle (GT4, ARCA and a Quarter Midget).
Where are the “anything a man can do, a woman can do better”?
Her career in NASCAR is coming to a close.
Watch her pull a reverse-Danica and go to IndyCar
@@MrEnzio777 Not happening.
IMSA/SRO America is the only landing spot.
Jack Polito wants into IMSA, and he'd get paid by Ford to have Deegan as his teammate, no brainer.
@@MrEnzio777so she can suck there?
Doubt it
She better give that Hawk tuah
NASCAR Busts: Hailie Deegan is inevitable at this point
Darian won't make the video because he's a Deegan simp himself and a notorious plagiariser.
@@JustGenius2001 that's the biggest shame in all of this. I really liked his channel, until I saw the video (with evidence!) of his copy and paste approach to making videos.
Imo she never should’ve been given an Xfinity opportunity after barely finishing top 20 in points in a Thorsport truck last year. Newsflash: the Xfinity series is way harder than the truck series
She’s way better than the gray brothers in the trucks especially tanner gray he’s shouldn’t even be in the trucks, also Jake Garcia isn’t any better either!
@@miketwotwentyTanner Gray this year still scored more Top 10’s than her entire tenure in Trucks.
@@miketwotwentyTanner Gray still won an Arca race.
@@miketwotwenty you are so delusional
@@miketwotwenty Both Tanner Gray and Taylor Gray have done more this year than in her entire truck stint.
Keep snorting copium 🤡
AM Racing isn't the best but it hasn't been a good sign to see a lack of improvement throughout the year. Definitely was rushed up through the ladder.
So many dirt track guys could have success in NASCAR, instead they choose this chick who was below average in micro sprint racing. Joke.
Do top dirt track guys even want to participate in nascar anymore? You make high 6 figures or even over a million now at the top of dirt track racing
Only way you will make more than that in nascar is if you make it to the top of cup which is a huge risk
5000 +
Yes, there are many dirt racers. Even that local guy that's just kind of good at your track would probably do relatively well in NASCAR. But I don't think a lot of dirt guys care about NASCAR that much or asphalt type racing aside from the money and everything else that goes with it just dealing with the clowns running NASCAR would be a pain.
Nascar is all about money now a days it’s not about the talent 🤷🏻♂️
Just from her body laungage you can tell she feels defeated by how bad shes been running with the weight on the world on her shoulders. I honestly feel bad but reguardless its time to move on at season end. She needs a full reset.
She won’t move on. It’s a multi year agreement with AM Racing
She herself said she didn't want to get rushed up too quickly. I'm surprised she has been this bad.
As a guy who berated her terrible driving last season I also can’t believe she’s this bad…
She got rushed up, and It just destroyed her... She Called it.
Diversity, equity, and inclusion
😮
I be WOKE!
for good drivers
Yes and you've had drivers from Nascar's diversity program be successful from it, Larson, Almorilla, Wallace. Look at Frankie Muniz, while not from that program, because of his name and fame, which has had the opportunity to go nascar racing. Obviously, he had to do the required things to go nascar racing, but he's getting attention and interest due to his fame and has nothing to do with D.E.I.
Her opertunity was made, but her youtube fame and sponsors willing to sign on and back her are the reasons. GoDaddy lasted a long time with Danica who tore up many race cars. If Deagan wasn't the daughter of a famous motocross star, she'd not have made it past Arca.
Companies will piss money out and market the hell out of the darlings like Danica or Deagan because it sells merch, creates engagement, and drives traffic/eyes to their business.
Always one dingus in the replies. Always!!!
This was a totally fair and honest critique of Deegan. I have thought all along that she was being pushed along to fast and with that and the constant media barrage focused on her, she really hasn't had a chance. Does she have the talent? I don't think we really know as she has never been allowed the chance to learn and develop as a driver before she gets pushed to the next level.
What talent she had has been stunted by rapid progression, and maybe a lack of tenacity on her part. I don't know how I've can overcome the former, but the latter is all mental.
Being a mildly attractive girl in nascar gets you infinite chances
And having a famous last name too. Let's admit it, if she was a guy who doesn't have a famous last name, she would've been outta NASCAR a long time ago.
@JustGenius2001 your completely correct but this is a really ironic comment considering your profile picture
@@NickGreene55 Oh come on now, that's just a cheap shot. Junior got far in NASCAR because yes, his father, but at least Junior ran up sometimes and won races during his time. Junior has trophies, does Deegan? A few trophies? So what? Junior has a lot more and besides, Junior was a much better driver than Deegan will ever be.
@JustGenius2001 many drivers could do more than what he did in DEI and Hendrick equipment
@@Mikey85inNV Look, I don't want to deal with another fight. Let's not forget that Junior lost his father on the track so perhaps his personal trauma kept him from being on a level like Gordon and Johnson.
Someone needs to show Kenny Wallace this video
major simp that guy
Kenny Wallace is a washed up never has been who has the most annoying mouth ever. I don't know why people watch him at all.
His whole "dirt track drivers are poor" thing is cringe as hell
Kenny Wallace is annoying. How can anyone watch his videos?
@@NicholasSpencer-uc9utKenny is Kenny. He will compliment everyone. I think it's less about being a simp and more about promoting every driver he knows or talks to.
Deegan seems to be more concerned about her social media exploits than her driving skills. I think she is a better dirt racer then pavement. If she was really wanting to improve her skills she should do some ARCA or late model races at some of the smaller tracks. Too much "Hollywood"! If she doesn't improve by the end of the season I fear Xfinity will be over for her
Her social media profile is the primary reason she has had a career in NASCAR. She’s marketable. Her social media “exploits” are not a distraction. They are the reason for her success, such as it is.
She wasn't a good dirt racer, all the people racing in usac and power I midgets were better than her.
She is literally all marketing
She wasn't great at mirco sprint racing, raced midgets a few times and was trash. She wasn't good on dirt. The top dirt guys would run circles around nascar drivers in 2024
She was a mid dirt track driver too. Nascar hyped the crap out of her dirt background but she wasn't really that great
The amount of excuses for Deegan is abysmal. They've blamed everything else except for talent. I truly just keep an eye out for her in races to see how bad she'll run.
Yeah I've seen so many people defend her, like one of my friends is one of those and I asked him one thing "Your just a simp aren't you" and he went quiet like...
@@XxBurpXxI feel bad for these dudes
Exactly. Normally she never even finishes. She's garbage.
Here after she got benched a race
probably 1000 I Racers that would better in the same equipment
More than that, she was wasn't amazing when she raced micro sprints. Any national sprint car driver could do far better than her
@@NickGreene55top 20ish sprint car drivers would clean up against most of the current cup field once they got some laps on pavement
@SamMayer-ig6tw yeah I know
@@SamMayer-ig6tw especially since the tires are so hard now! Little falloff means those dirt drivers can do their thing-find grip anywhere by any means without worrying about chewing up tires as much.
I have epilepsy, so I haven't had a drivers license since 2011 and I'd be willing to bet that I could have a close season avg finish to hers. Not a knock on female drivers at all, there's male drivers just as bad. But it does get to a point where it's pretty clear that she's mainly out there for the PR.
Nascar isnt about talent, just how much money you bring so she will be fine. Watch national level dirt late model and sprint car racing if you want to see the actual best oval racers
And comments like yours here make me sick. We might as well just stop going and watching races and let NASCAR die because without ticket sales and viewers, NASCAR is fucked.
@@JustGenius2001 sounds good to me big time dirt track racing is putting out a great product right now
Money doesn’t stay around long when you are chasing the end of the pack each week. She has not shown anything positive in trucks or xfinity, time to give another driver the seat.
Don't crap on every other driver just because of this. Also, if any sport isn't about talent, it's F1. F1 is based 99% on aspects other than talent.
@loganmanderfield1162 you need to have millions in funding at your disposal to even get involved in nascar. The talent level is headed off a cliff and your in denial
I grew up in the same town as Hailie Deegan, hell the Deegan family rented out a commercial building from my family to run their Jr trophy truck out of and we even went to the same school, though were a few grade levels apart.
Basically what I'm setting up is that I know Deegan and the entire family really well. She has never had any talent. Period. The only reason she ever got anywhere is because her parents and other immediate family (who I won't mention by name since the topic of conversation is not about them) are big shots, and has massive connections with companies like Monster, that allowed her to write blank checks to get the rides she wants.
Is dad is one of the first monster athletes
In all fairness that's all professional drivers. If your family didn't bring home 6 figgers and you don't have corporate connections your not making it to trucks never less cup. The most blue collar down to earth every day guy driver you can thank of, if you just do a little research would reveal at minimum a upper middle class family with connections. In other words if you are 10 years old live in the trailer park single mother on food stamps and dream of being a cup driver, it's never going to happen. Dosnt mean you can't drive race cars. I have run a bomber (late model leaf spring car) on a used car sales man's budget but it strains my budget and I can't afford to make ever race or crash a car or take risks that others can. It's not there fault there rich and connected. There just doing what we all wish we could and would do if we could. Just stating facts.
@@robertstone9988 You're kind fo correct and I agree with you ona fundamental level, but I think you are completely missing both the point that I was making in my OP as well as the nuances of the industry.
Professional racing is indeed a ridicuously expensive sport, and if you want to be in trucks, with no talent, you need way more than a measly 6 figure salary. Hell if it only took a 6 figure income and corporate connections, I would still be racing. I developed amazing relationships with NAPA, I started K1 Race Gear with the owners of K1 Speed, and am even still on Bill McAnally's personal christmas card list (lol). Add an extra 0 to the income bracket at minimum as well as add an extra stipulation to the corporate connection that is "family/family friend tie AND did not piss off someone who does have family/family friend ties to your corporate connections".
But to go back to my OP, let me try and rephrase it a bit in to clarify. While yes, everyone in racing has some sort of connection that got them there, more often than not, they are racing at tht high level because they have, at least, a base line of inherent ability and talent to drive a racecar. What I am saying is that I do not think Hailie Deegan even possesses the minimum level of talent to be professional stock car racing. She doesn't have the drive, the focus, the discipline, the training or the raw natural instinct. So to reitterate, I believe she got to where she is now purely based off of the money and influence, and talent (or lack there of) had zero influence on her advancements in professional racing.
@@Greg1_c When we were in the same school, like once every month or maybe even more often than that, someone in the Deegan family would do a promo in front of the plaza during lunch time. I'm pretty sure every single person who grew up in Temecula knew the Deegan family, especially considering basically every 3rd child was walking around with one of their hats on. I can't remember the Deegan brand off the top of my head anymore but it was something like "metal malitia" or something.
Honestly, they were/are genious marketers because every freakin kid had a metal malitia shirt, hat, poster or sticker.
@@TheCloudCreation I agree with you 100% dare I say if she was a he they would have never made it this far. She's Danica 2.0 when it comes to marketing. We didn't have a lot of money growing up but I managed to get ahold of some go carts not racing just brigs 5 horse and we run the nabour hood with them, the extent of my carting Career lol. Always wanted to be a pro driver I'm 46 years old i was huge Kyle petty fan back in the day. Ran the 44 on my bomber. I thank thare are 4 measurable stats to determine if you are going to be pro. 4 stats to measure all drivers
1 skill: skill is learned any one can achieve skill and skill can be built on and improved. Example would be we can all learn How to drive a car fast. Hot to apex how to trail brake how ext.
2. Talent: Talent can't be learned you got it or you don't Everyone can learn how to play guitar.Not everybody can be jimi hendrix.
3. Connections: racing is expensive and to be fair a bit of a club. No one gets thare with out some one to open some doors.
4: heart: All the talent skill and opportunity in the world.Don't mean anything if you're hart ant in it.
Not all drivers possess all four. But all of the goats do. Hailie has 2 Opportunity and heart. She got farther than me. I know I got heart I know I got skill, like to thank I got Talent but thare was no Connections. I sim race now. Got grate group of guys and 2 wemon and there good.
I am sick and tired of the x bots in the comments
I don't even understand how there as SO many you can find a random video with like 50 views and they'll still be in the comments
Then stop reading them
@@billb412 I found the first ever bot defender
@@XTheManXI mean he’s right, bitching about it won’t change anything…
@@deaf2819 I don't remember asking you what you thought ngl
I’ll say this about Hailie Deegan until the end of time:
On dirt = REMARKABLE
On asphalt = okay, but not great, not enough to progress past Xfinity at least for the time being
This sadly isn’t the first time though that a stellar dirt driver has unfortunately come up short on asphalt (ex. Kinser, Bloomqvist, Sweet, etc. (not comparing her to them, just stating that it’s similar in NASCAR)), and it won’t be the last. And unfortunately, as a fan of the whole Deegan family, seeing her, and her dad during his career for that matter, struggle on asphalt hurts.
Overall, I think at the end of the day, she’ll leave nascar with some respectable mid pack stats to her name after next season, and will probably transition to racing quarter midgets with her husband full time, as well as spending time racing off road, like she originally did before her mom got her interested in NASCAR.
She was racing tiny kids while she was in top notch rides. It should make sense to you when all that went away, and she had to bring in sponsors and race people her own age.
She should try Rally
@@kobbie_Nyc Was thinking the same, it might end up being better...
uh she was very mediocre on dirt too. Sounds like we bought into some nascar pr lol
@@nickphilkill818yeah I’m not sure where this “she’s amazing on dirt” thing came from. Outside of beating some past their prime guys in SRX, she’s not exactly lighting it up in micros either
3.5 seasons, 50 wrecks.
What an achievement!
And 50 more wrecks are sure to come. Just embarrassing🤦♂
Thats even better than Danica! 😂
@@DaytonaPrototypes Unbelievably bad.
Lmao iceberg sounds mad funny in this and personal. The part abt people complaining about ARCA for the wrecks, however then complaining if its boring because of the lack of wrecks is funny lmao
Probably tired of people ripping on the lower series of Nascar
If her name was Hal Deegan , she'd be working at Hardee's by now , the racing career long over.
Simping seems to be big among NASCAR fans so she's still around.
Matt from BrakeHard brought up some good points about the experiment between Hailie Deegan and AM Racing in the Xfinity series not too long ago, actually. And given what we have seen from her, even I must admit that I'm starting to lose faith in Deegan's ability to drive in the top 3 touring series. At the end of the day though, they're basically going to sign her to full-time deals simply because she is a woman.
And this might be a hot take, but I think it's safe to say that today's world, women do not really belong behind the seats of race cars on as big of a scale as NASCAR, lest they have the same problems and similar careers to Danica Patrick. They're just not built the same way as men are.
On the bright side, unlike another female driver in Natalie Decker, I don’t see Deegan being an online prostitute on OnlyFans or some other live sex cam service, and I thank heaven for that.
I think you are actually right with your hot take. It takes a lot of muscle endurance to turn the car and sit in the heat for a long time, and women just aren't as rigid as men are. To some it hurts to hear, but it's the hard truth.
In terms of women racing at the highest levels, I think it comes down more to they actually have to start racing when they are very young. If I remember Deegan didn't start racing in a stock cars until she was in her mid-teens. Very slim chance that cuts it in modern-day NASCAR when you have boys that are raising when they first start walking.
Not only is a woman going to have to start racing at a very young age, but she is going to also have to have that extra passion and drive to compete with the best men. That's just ridiculously hard to do.
Nascar, the teams, and the sponsors have essentially screwed any future female that actually has some serious potential due to them parading out crappy female drivers. Play bragged about Danica as if she was one of the all-time great drivers and she was f****** terrible
She has some nude photos, but they were leaked
@@Ka_GgYep for sure plus Motorsports is possibly the only other sport they could actually compete with Men. It's defienitly not like MMA or Boxing where Men have a clear strength advantage no matter what.
WELL, WELL, WELL
It was just announced that Logano is racing the Xfinity 15 car for Chicago. I think AM finally came to their senses and realized Deegan wasn't good at all lol
Hopefully they benched her the rest of the year…. That was painful
If Hallie Deegan was a guy, she’d either be out of NASCAR or would be in a back marker car with whatever funding she brought, with no one talking about her.
If she was a guy with those skills she would be working at Home Depot
If she ends up in cup ride in the near future it would be a complete insult to drivers who worked a lot harder than Deegan to get a cup ride considering that Deegan puts more effort in her social media than driving
Considering the Dillon brothers and Harrison have cup rides I won’t be shocked
It sucks that it ended this way. Watching her win those arca west races gave me so much faith in her racing capabilities.
And she's Hella good off-road.
I agree she rushed up too early and it is a shame as she could of been great but I think it is all over for her in her career. She will never get a Cup ride with her performance.
By the way, great vid. Its about time people start getting honest about Deegan. Lots of content creators are too scared of her rabid fan base to get "real" about her. Great points, iceberg.
travisstone7109, many of her simps have bailed.
Most of the reason why she got to Xfinity was by her sponsors
Danica showed some flashes in NASCAR at least. Deegan seems to have regressed over the years.
Gee, no duh! She's a woman with a famous last name so of course sponsors will help to move her up🙄
Exactly, based on results you might as well promote Lawless Alan to Xfinity lmao
It ain't the car ,it ain't the set up , it ain't the crew chief , it ain't the crew. Logano finished 8th in Chicago. It's the DRIVER of that #15 car , Failee The Donut Deegan. Now maybe they'll fire her!
Kyle Larson is a cup champion with 27 wins. He could take it easy between races, go to the beach make tik-tok videos and have fun. Instead he goes out and drives sprint cars in the middle of the week to stay sharp. Maybe Hailie should stop making videos and get more track time in the middle of the week like Kyle does.
This..
I believe that after two years in Trucks with a struggling team, Hailie should've gone back to ARCA. If Hailie took her career in a more serious approach, she could have better results with better teams. She would still be in the ARCA Series, but her talent would be recognized.
The problem with younger drivers are that they think "I'll be the next big thing". For some, it comes true. However, not for others. Hailie was rushed because of a few things: sponsorship, family, and social media.
Sponsorship is how drivers get rides, but that also includes how they race overall and if those sponsors got what they came for.
Family backs you up, but having a father who has a different background in a different style of racing is odd, to say the least. However, you gotta give Hailie credit for trying something new.
Social media is another thing, it can either bring you up, get viewers and fans, as well as sponsors. On the other hand, it can also be the opposite, due to how much time we spend on it daily.
Hailie was also an aggressive driver early on, causing her to lose her ride with Toyota.
Toyota was, and still is somewhat better than Ford in two of the three main series of NASCAR at the moment. If she took her time, she would've spend two to three full-time years in ARCA with a better team, as well as a year-and-a-half in the Truck Series with a better team.
Sadly, it’s time to have the “bust?” conservation. As a former hype train passenger, it’s a real disappointment that the talent she has clearly shown in the past is just not here in any way. Why? We can’t say for certain, but we must now consider who may be more deserving to have her seat.
Shit I’m not turning the other cheek. I hate when people get rides in general because of money and nepotism in general. Then idiots on the internet say “o she’s better racer than all of y’all”. I bet everything if I had SAME opportunity i would run them cars better. I myself have raced competitively but I didn’t grow up with a family with all the resources and I’m not as easy on the eyes as her
I can’t help but feel some empathy because her younger brother has an incredibly successful super/motocross career and she has really struggled in her racing career. Doesn’t excuse her performance or mean she deserves a seat, just seems like it could be difficult at times.
She's not taking it as serious as she needs to to be successful. She's devoting half her focus and time into her youtube channel instead of putting all her focus on developing and becoming a better driver
Deegan is a bust. It really pains me to say that because back in her K&N and Arca days I was on the Deegan hype train. She might have time to improve but I’m not counting on it.
ARCA is no longer a gauge of Talent, the CARS Tour and NASCAR Canada are.
@@Dexter037S4cars tour has a higher level of talent than xfinity
It's funny how on her TH-cam channel, she shows a lot of competitiveness but, her " girly " side is still very strong. I honestly think that she's afraid of getting damaged. I agree that she's a good person but, she just doesn't have it in her to do this.
You’d never say any of the male drivers “boyishly” side is still very strong. Please just speak on her driving and leave gender out
As much as I wanted to see her succeed, the facts don't lie unfortunately.
Moffitt got sacked for this?
Yep, Moffitt indeed got pushed to the side for this. I bet AM Racing is regretting their decision. Then again, they're getting good money and good publicity for having her so🤷♂
@5:44 Sanchez getting into the back of Deegan....again! He wrecked her 3 times that year just like that.
But it's her fault, right?
You won't see Sanchez getting into the back of a truck driven by a guy, because Sanchez would be wrecked in turn or punched out after the race.
Oh look, she got wrecked out by someone else again @8:23.
It's just strange how no one mentions this.
I’ve kept my opinion on her to myself for so long because of people making pathetic excuses for her. She’s had long enough, 3 years in trucks with hardly anything to show for, one of those years in championship winning equipment. Her first year in Xfinity has been very below par. I know people are gonna say “it’s her first year give her time” that is fair enough. However, I know it’s gonna be the same next year and the year after. Shane Van Gisbergen is also a rookie, his first full time year in any form of NASCAR. This is her FOURTH full time year in the top 3 series. Shane has absolutely outclassed her. She is not good enough to race in the top 3 series, simple as that. I know all the Deegan fans are gonna hate me for it. Wake up to reality, she is not good enough.
Well, tbh, you can't compare her to SVG, the guy is literally top notch, at a Kyle Larson, Kyle Busch Harvick, you name it talent level, in short, world-class driver. I'd say that a good level for her would be maybe a guy like Michael McDowell, or someone that runs about like he does, not great, not terrible, but good enough to say that he's worthy of his seat in the series. And having that as a baseline of sorts, she's far below that, so I'd say that her time is up. Honestly I believe thatat this point she's a pretty faced (there ain't no fault in that) marketing tool that runs mediocre at best...
Danica has been statistically better and nobody wanted to hear it when I first brought it up like a year ago lol.
Truck series is a demo derby.
She gets rides because she has marketing money/sponsors. She gets marketing money/sponsors because she is attractive, not talented. Until this psyche stops, this will continue to happen. We can make video after video how she is a waste of space taking up the seat of someone more deserving. But at the end of the day, "More Deserving" doesnt bring the dollars with him or in a very rare circumstance, her.
She never deserved to be called up in the first place! She needs to be out of that Xfinity car ASAP!
Well. I can't wait to see what Toni does in arca rest of the season. And see what she does in trucks. I bet she will be better than degan.
Regardless of who or what, it’s just another driver with sponsors that can’t drive. That’s the norm now. As long as you can bring money, you get a ride. Pretty clear with chase briscoes statements at the JGR announcement.
the worst part of Hailie Deegan's career is that despite abysmal results this year, you can't blame it on the gear, logano was driving for her yesterday and finished 8th
She is only in NASCAR because she is attractive. Take away her looks and no one would know who she is.
5 / 10 tops.
Wall approaching at breakneck speed.
5 yrs from now she'll be 50 lbs heavier and drinking heavily.
Just wait...
I have had a serious serious question on why she was called up to Xfinity Series and people in the Trucks like Rhodes and others like him never got the calls. If she was good I would have no problem but she's not deserving of the opportunities she got after the truck series
Atleast danica got better results in Xfinity. And talent
And she took the lead late in the Indy 500. People like to forget that. Danica was a good, solid racecar driver (excellent finishing record in IndyCar), but never a great driver.
"Hailie Deegan joins The Hub"
Fox did NOT think that though 💀
I went back to look at the 2019 K&N standings, and it's mostly filled with future GEICO car salesmen. Her only real competition in 2019 was Derek Kraus (who isn't even full-time anymore), and Jagger Jones who runs in Indy NXT.
And people wonder why no takes a Mickey Mouse Series like the West Series seriously.
Wait til you find out trucks and most of xfinity are mickey mouse too
She has been given more than ample time to show improvement and sadly she has only regressed. I watch all Xfinity races and most of the time I forget shes even in the field.
she was only ever popular because she is an attractive young woman
Zero wins in any of the top FOUR stock car series is absolutely wild 😂
Epitome of a nepo baby
My favorite nepo baby is probably Richard Petty or Dale Earnhardt
You forgot the best and most hilarious excuse of them all. The guys race her harder than they do the other guys. Unless you haven't watched a race lately, they all race the sh@% out of each other. The person passing you doesn't care what sex you are. That's a spot and they want it regardless. I'm bummed by this, because the more diversity in the sport, the better. Excuse time is over. Run up front in something. John Hunter did it and now he's back in Cup. There is a path, but she needs more experience and more confidence. She's not going to get it running with back marker teams.
I think Ford/Monster pushed this too fast they wanted her to be in/or near cup level way to quick. Let her learn. Get her comfortable in the car. You listen to her radio, she’s never happy and she’s second guessing herself
happens often
K&N/Arca series was never a competitive field the McNally cars were so much better then the field’s equipment those results don’t mean anything
I love west series warriors.
And Deegan's best competition isn't even racing full-time anymore. See how little west series "success" matters in a real series.
I hate to say it, but I don't think NASCAR is for her
She's this gens Danica. You can't force greatness unless the talent and abilities are real and nurtured properly.
She received way too much hype for knocking guys out of the way for wins in a fairly weak K&N West field. I will say her being the first female driver to win a NASCAR regional series race is still a major accomplishment. That's where my praise for her ends though. She really needed to spend more time in late models and I don't think she really has the knowledge base of understanding the car and how setups work that you really need to be a top driver (the same problem as Danica had IMO). Now a good day for her is just finishing on the lead lap which is bad for somebody who's in year 5 of national level racing with most of that being in equipment capable of winning. She has not progressed at all since 2020 and I don't see her having a place in the sport beyond next year.
Her car wasn't legal either
What do you think of hailie deegans career, ok here is an answer from someone who worked with her at thorsport take it or leave it i dont care
1 before you call us a mediocre team just remember no one else had a problem running that truck up front and winning in it
2. The same crew she started off the season with ended up winning the championship with bed rhodes
3. Same 8 guys build the trucks for all 5 teams, so dont give me the crap about equipment
4. When shes only at the shop 4 times in a season and thats basically to do a tic tok video explains alot, especially since ford spent all that money to get her from toyota and buy a simulator that she never sat in
5. Try doing your job at track when you have to move around the entourage in the way
Im sure she has lots of Fans...of the Only variety
😂
That would be the ultimate sellout.
@thescotian82 Yeah I forgot all us women are just sexual objects. I’m sure you wouldn’t say this about the male drivers
The only person that Hailie Deegan's performance should matter to is the owner that hires her to drive for them. There are many other drivers that don't run any better and some are worse. In the end, it's the car owners and sponsors that determines a drivers fate.
I really wanted her to do well. Her boyfriend is the one who should be in NASCAR.
LOL that's freaking hilarious.
cabre deserved better
They’re both annoying and failures
@@RC.41what about their dog 🤔
I am a diehard Hailie Fan you are right I did say it was the car or truck but I was thinking with my heart but now I think this has been her best chance to show she has the ability to do something and now I agree with you 😢
nepo babies dont deserve automatic or extra opportunities
Maybe it is time for NASCAR to develop standards and benchmarks for moving into a class. You have to win one race, finish in the top 5 in like 10 races or top 10 in 5 races.
Hailie is going to be the next Danica. So much hype for someone who performed well elsewhere but is floundering in every chance she gets.
@SilverThunder710, "Failie" Deegan is a dud in all motorsports racing, not just NASCAR. The stats/facts don't lie, but her SIMPS damn sure do, though.
I’m just hoping that she doesn’t go down the Danica Patrick route of racing in the Cup Series too early. In my opinion, she needs to stay in the Xfinity series just for another year or 2 just to get more experience.
She should go to IMSA IMO. She did pretty good in the Michelin Pilot Challenge race at Daytona in 2023
Or she can do a reverse-Danica and go from NASCAR to IndyCar.
Jack Polito is dominating the Sports Car Championship Canada, perfect team mate for her right there.
Yeah IMSA the big time reject series
@@RC.41better than sitting on the couch watching like us
@@bwedd3772 it’s better but an imsa champion can’t be treated as a serious world championship driver. If they were they would be in Indy or F1 or Nascar like they weren’t good enough for. It’s a professional amateur race series. A nice one, but that’s what it is.
It’s unfortunate, and yes you can make the case that she was pushed up too soon. Then again, this is racing and you can get thrown into the deep end, and people expect you to swim. Unfortunately it hasn’t worked out for her and she gets tv time for all the wrong reasons, rather than the right ones. She honestly hasn’t been good for give or take 4 years.
Logano is taking her car for Chicago lol
NI HAO NI HAO NI HAO
she's only there because she's a young, attractive, female.. but none of that matters when the money well starts going dry..
I feel like she'll still make it to Cup simply off her marketability, because money talks at the end of the day. But if she does, she'll take away a Cup ride from someone more deserving and stink up the joint worse than Danica ever did.
She's gonna cost someone a lotta money in the Cup Series because there's no doubt she'll wreck a lot.
Thanks for being one of the only ones to be truthful and transparent about this. Was going to subscribe, but already was 👍🏼👍🏼
Is it completely fair to say she’s the next Danica?
She might be worse💀
Funny thing is i would say she is anti danica shes to scared to do anything at all while danica was to willing to do anything
So maybe the next big female driver will find that sweet spot
Yeah. Milka Duno level worse.
@@MrEnzio777 Oh god. Don’t remind me of duno.
@@SuperNASCARrocks Hard to forget the biggest bust in all of any racing discipline
I genuinely believe she has talent, but higher ups and teams pushed her through the series too quickly. She really needs to get back to ARCA to hone her skills because she’s just not ready for the top 3 series
You’re wrong she has no talent
Funny how we as fans think we have room to talk about talent while we're at home every week 😂
@Jeff.3 you are talking about tony stewart being a great driver in another comment? Why are you allowed to judge talent and not us? Simps just wanna make it up as they go along lol
You may be at home Jeff but lots of us are pounding the pavement at our local short tracks. Better to be a racer for a day than a fan for life.
@@C.JFomme I said that tony stewart called deegan a hell of a driver. I'd rather take the word of tony stewart over people on TH-cam and Twitter any day
She's in her mid 20's, is good looking and has money behind her. That's all she needs to be in the game.
This video aged well lol
If she looked like Rosie O'Donnell, she wouldn't even have a Soap Box Derby ride. JS.
She’s done for
I think that was a fair analysis. I supported her as much as I could, but now I must admit she’s not doing well. If there were at least some top 10 or top 5 finishes, that would be okay, but here in 2024, we absolutely have nothing to celebrate. And I don’t think she has the level to compete in Xfinity, which is sad. I remember the SRX where she did well last year and in previous years… this is just a shame as a supporter. I prefer to think of her as a TH-camr who also races in NASCAR when she has the time.
Are we just gonna completely ignore the fact that the ONLY Ford team in Xfinity that has any relevance is SHR? DBC talked about this, AM clearly doesn't have SHR support.
Are we going to completely ignore the FACT she is a Ford performance backed driver? Yeah go ahead and tell me that doesn't come with money and technical support.
@curtiscraig769 just because she's in the Ford pipeline doesn't automatically mean that Ford is pumping millions into where ever she is. Plenty other Ford Performance "backed" drivers out there, and still only one team in that series that's worth anything this year. Or do you think that because Cindric lucked into a win and Blaney won a race in a completely different car and series means that every Ford in every series is an automatic powerhouse vehicle that is pure domination?
@@ksteinwand6744 actually there are very few Ford performance drivers
@curtiscraig769 way to miss the point. Just go back to your corner where anyone who isn't white, has a dick, and doesn't claim that they devote their life to a religion that they use to justify hatred and genocide are automatically shit and deserve to be in a box. If you can't find it, just listen for all the snowflakes crying about how Dale is rolling over in his grave because NASCAR switched to EFI
The Sieg cars tend to run well. A pretty solid 2nd-tier team, with no factory support to my knowledge.
SHE GOT BENCHED 😂😂😂😂😂
The gift keeps on giving!