Where as Ezio is freakin careless, and in rpg games they break laws of physics like even though it still existed it wasn’t thought of and so doesn’t exist to them. Good observation though, also Connor looks to be taking it slower and more careful due to weight, interesting, Ubi actually cared back then, hmmmm
Was genuinly shocked how slow Connor is but when you think about it, he’s canonically a burly guy. He was sort of the tank of the games. I think it makes sense. I would think revelations ezio would be slower because of age but the old mans still got it
@@staple_boi Still, the hook blade is like a cane and he still needs a lot of strength to pull himself up like that. Dude's jacked even as a senior citizen
Some of the turkish assassins have commented that Ezio still moves like a 20 year old for a man his age and that a lot of them couldn't even keep up with him.
@@staple_boi I don’t know if you understand basic physics but that hook wasn’t pulling him up by itself. It was just extended reach. Man climbs fast with or without
I think that in the old assassin's creed the parkour and climb were more realistic , because the character had more difficult to reach high points , was easy to fail and fall . But nowadays the character is a God climber , climbing all the walls without none problem , sometimes it doesn't looks like real . The assissin's creed Unity got the best parkour and moves followed for Syndicate and Valhalla .
I kind of liked how Altaïr,Ezio, Connor and Edward wall climb like they make the runs up the wall while Arno and Jacob just Spidermans the walls... Bayek, Kassandra and Eivor has a weird hop or something when they wall climb
@@cfg_gg Francesco Pazzi no never ahahaha but no I mean that's what I genuinely felt when I first saw Arno's climbing mechanics at the E3 reveal in 2014
@@ameemrashaad2038 Arno is more of a style and fancy trick guy. I don't have a problem with it because he does look stylish but yeah sometimes arno just does impossible moves.
If we’re looking from a realistic point of view, Altairs is the most realistic. He is efficient but also careful making him a little slower, which is what it’d actually be like if you’re scaling the side of a building in real life
I think it'd be great to have an AC game that involves a more realistic climbing style as seen in AC1. Combine that with a decently hard combat system, and you'd get a great stealth incentive: Be smart, plan ahead, be sneaky.
@@moshedayan1690They got a point tho? I love Unity but you can’t deny just how inconsistent and glitchy the parkour is in that game. On top of that, you have less control over where you want to jump and you can’t cancel any of the animations like the older games, hence the input lags. Unity has a good foundation, but it needed more polishing
I think this just goes to show how much fluid animation has to do with the way the game feels because connor always felt ridiculously fast and agile to me just cause of the power and weight of his movements combined with seamless animation.
I am playing ac3 and he is slow but the animations make him look fast just like in racing games there is screen shaking to make the cars feel super speedy otherwise it would not feel fast.
Basicaly the slower they are the better the parkour is, since all these RPG games cuts the animations or parkour mechanics to throw some half baked parkour 😂 Ezio is a exception tho
True man and wanna know something? To my surprise ezio in brotherhood in some aspects is far faster than Arno like he jumped across things super fast and can sprint on ropes which is something Arno can’t do which I Lowkey wish he could do because constantly getting shot has got to be the most annoying thing about unity for me so being able to get away faster would’ve been so clutch for my bank account in that game (cause I had to buy more medicine)
@@lol_histicall4289 The enemy accuracy was a huge issue for me in Unity in general. I have very fond memories in 3 and 4 of desperately fleeing up a wall while lead balls bounce of the masonry while muskets crack and belch fire below. It was incredibly cinematic for 1 and 2 you did the whole thing with crossed fingers and clinched cheeks cause you COULD get away or you could get shot it may go either way. In Unity if someone in the next postal code, over a small wall, and past a dense crowd draws his smoothbore pistol it will inevitably politely weave its way through the crowd and around all the tables and obstacles and bury itself in you backside like thats its morning comute and not an impossible shot. You simply could not flee from gunfire in unity.
Apparently the in canon explanation is that Connor as an Assassin has a heavier set build compared to everyone else so that slightly hampers his free running ability, but not that much.
One thing that didn't do Connor justice is that there are different climbing mechanics for different buildings, based on the ledges they're going to have to climb. Aveline, for example, uses the same engine as ACIII, meaning the parkour is identical, but the church she climbed had much fewer things to grab onto than the building Connor climbed. If Connor climbed the same building as Aveline, he would've had an identical time to her.
Altair: 1.2m per second Ezio (AC2): 2m per second Ezio (ACB): 2m per second Ezio (ACR): 2.4m per second (* with Hookblade assistance*) Connor: 1.3m per second Aveline: 2m per second Edward & Adewale: 1.5m per second Shay: 1.71m per second Arno: 1.5m per second Jacob & Evie (Free Climb): 2m per second Jacob & Evie (Grapple): 4m per second Bayek & Aya: 2.4m per second Alexios & Kassandra: 2.4m per second Eivor: 2m per second
It's not really a fair comparison. Altair climbs a wall that doesn't need him to jump vertically to reach other footholds so he takes his time climbing it Spiderman style while the other protagonist climb different type of walls that require them to climb them monkey style making vertical jumps to continue the climb so obviously they take less time and climb faster...
Don't forget that on AC3, they first introduced tree climbing. And because of lore, they made his animation in tree or rock climbing even more focused or natural than his building climbing.
Haha, they should bring back those things in the next Assassin’s Creed game. Man those things were so useful and they were only used and it was only useful in 1 game which is Revelations, which wasn’t a big predecessor to Assassin’s Creed II and Brotherhood.
@@eivorwolf-kissed6790 And they still dare to say Revelations is the worst AC game and brings nothing new. I started my adventure with that game and missed hookblade on any other game
@@the_Ikar the people who say it's the worst have the right. I think it's exactly in the middle. Its economic system is the worst in the franchise, the catchledges and ejects downgraded pretty much, it has no horse riding, virtual training is god awful, city is extremely repetitive and even the guipdd have nothing special about them except for the mercenaries' guild. At least 5 controls are set to the same control and the game changes the action randomly. The jannisaries' amount of times they use guns is enormous against the amount of times they actually fight which is heartbreaking. Counter throws on weak enemy types being non-lethal counter kills that have the killed target move on the ground after, yet counting as desynchronization in do not kill anyone objectives is just stupid. The pacing is 1/10 no clickbait. Why can't i do sweat den defences after doing the master assassin missions? There are only 4 assassinations side content included. It has very small input lag. The collectibles are just bad because you get npthing for all 100 data fragments but the cheap desmond sequences.
@@the_Ikar Actually, Revelations was disappointing to me. It didn’t conclude perfectly to Ezio’s legacy. The whole game was nothing new and everything was the same as before. The open-world is small and non-interactive and the grinding, bribing, and renovating system is the worst. Also, the recruiting assassins and the capturing temples/battle/defend system is pretty bad and boring. Revelations could’ve been better like the previous entries in the Ezio Trilogy. Revelations was the first Assassin’s Creed game to be a disappointment along when Assassin’s Creed III came out which number III was disappointing to me as well.
I like the way Altair climbs, he's smooth af. He may be slow but he's got style. Meanwhile, Connor is the twitchiest. He's slow because he stops every couple of seconds to gather power for a pull up that he really didn't need.
@@staple_boi yeah because altair is quite unbelievably slow and stars the first game of the series, comparing Connor to the newer aged climbing that came around his time he's quite slow
Connor may not be a fast climber, but he sure is fast when freerunning. Dude is built like a tank but man can he run. All that time hunting for his tribe in the trees really pays off.
If you're going to compare climbing speed, at least make sure that the design of these buildings are largely the same. Because some of the "slower" climbers are actually faster than the "faster" climbers. Like flat top.
@@Cloudx0x each game has a unique world to interact with. I doubt you could find a similar building if you compare all games. Also the first games are limited to climbing only buildings, you can only climb trees and rocks starting with AC3 if I remember correctly. Also the newer ones starting from Origins don't have a lot of buildings to do a fair comparison with. I am fine with the current examples but there are multiple conditions that you can bring up to prove that one is faster than the other and in that specific case it might be true. Ezio for example has a jump feature while climbing up to reach a higher ledge, just adding that to the end of the climb would make him faster but I don't think that would be a fair comparison to the rest of the assassins.
In the old assassins, climbing could be combined with other ways to climb the building: mini levels of parkour gave accelerated movement, which encouraged the player to find the fastest possible ways to move. In the RPG games of assassins on parkour, such an emphasis is not made, which is why Parkour was artificially accelerated.
That's what i'd kinda thinking, they made the parkour much more accelerating for RPG AC's since these games weren't based on the parkour system as much as the other AC's games builded on, so they might be done this in order to for players to spend less time on parkour and so they can give more of their time to things like combat, Side mission and story missions etc etc.
Guys guys. I think we all have it wrong see. It's ubisoft we are taking about here. Surely they would not want the players focus be on finishing a game so that they can sell their dlcs faster. No way. Ubi are much too angelic for that. Player satisfaction is top priority.
@@x0gucx Playing Odyssey rn, Idk bro, I like the fact that I can adjust gameplay from mission to mission. I can play brute force warrior style when I'm in combat mission, I can clean up forts with my assassin kit and execute mission targets without spending 20 mins to clear up the whole private army, and I play with bow and arrow when I'm killing mercenaries for contracts and rewards. People are crying too much about Odyssey, yes I know its more of a Ancient Greece Simulator instead of classic Assassins Creed, but the game is pretty damn good... Its RPG with massive world, very colorful and beautiful graphics, solid story. Only thing that I'm like angry is the same like in every other AC, things get repetitive after 40ish hours of playing. It is: go, travel, steal, bring, give, kill and that is about it. And I'm pissed cause Darius did not gave me the hidden blade, and I'm stuck with spear for "assassination" :D Cheers
People mostly think Arno or Connor climb faster thank Ezio, but in fact is just the smooth animation that makes them look faster but Ezio's and Altair is faster and practical
I like how much the reactions of civilians changes throughout the games. They go from shock and curiosity to interest and fascination to finally not even giving a shit. Lol
In Syndicate, climbing the very high structures is what justifies the use of the grappler launcher. When used, the character usually have to take a step or two away from the building and wait for the grappler to find an anchor point. Then, you get to climb at high speed (second only the single use elevators).
According to lore middle-aged Ezio (well trained Ezio) was the fastest, followed by young Altaïr. However they weren't the best, it was actually Connor, he free climbed mountains with ease, even in storms and rain. Speed does not equal skill and efficiency.
These aren't accurate at all, it depends heavily on the surface they are climbing; the distance between each projection on the wall they can hold. Here you made Kassandra climb a pillar in which she had no choice other than to leap up. Make her climb a rock mountain for 12 metres and you will see a drastic decrease in her climbing speed. I always felt like Bayek/Aya were the fastest climbers overall without considering the hook blade and grappling hook climbers though, could be wrong.
Personally for me Ezio seems like the most balanced of the assassins in speed, skill and experience. The way he improves himself over each game is also extremely impressive. When I started Revelations I thought he would be old and start being slower or get rusty but instead he was learning new ways to assassinate and travel. He always said that he was "eager to learn" and he searched for Altair's library for knowledge. The hookblade and the bombs. For an older assassin who was a Mentor he never let his position hold him back from learning from Yusuf. I have only played as Ezio, Shay Cormac and the Frye Twins so far with a little bit of Kenway and Altair but I cannot have a say in the others especially Connor. I plan to play him after I'm done with Revelations. Either way I haven't felt the feeling of actually climbing and doing parkour and having fun while doing it in a game like I do with Altair and Ezio mainly. Plus the hookblade and the zipline is really enjoyable to the point I avoid using the tunnel systems.
Great video, but there is a problem, in unity you actually climbed around 16 meters. The 3 points you used for perspective form a triangle with base 5 and a hipotenuse of 17, if you apply the pythagorean theorem you get the square root of 264, and that is around 16,2 meters for the lenght of height.
It would be more accurate if we could use buildings with similar layout. I think Connor could climb faster is that building's layout were different. In the same way, I believe the layout from the more recent RPG games (Origins onward) is more lenient and helps the guys climb faster
Too many disruptive variables to consider. Especially in Connor's case. The parkour mechanics in the traversal and platforming engine of AC3 was known for being notoriously "sticky." It looked like Connor took more pauses intermittently just holding onto edges longer than he needed to. I noticed a short bit of that in the Edward and Adewale comparison too. Both flew up that climb quickly but just beneath the top ledge, Adewale looked to get too "clingy" (no pun intended) before reaching the top which delayed him by a good 1.5 or almost two seconds.
I forgot how fluid AC1's climbing animations were. Straight up climbing looks and feels a lot better than almost all of the other games imo. I loved it when their goal was to make the characters have weight and move like people, not larger than life heroes.
It was not so smooth on the most buildings. There was a lot of "hop one step, use the same hand after a short pause" moments that made the game feel clunky imo
@@unknownguywholovespizza No, I just quite like the slower feel. It was still fluid and it increased the skill ceiling since it made the player have to think about using their full arsenal to go quicker. You were encouraged to use ejects and such as that to avoid straight climbing a wall. It’s arguably faster now to just hold forward until you reach a rooftop. I’m not saying it’s perfect, but I prefer it by miles over the RPG games. Developers further refining AC1’s mechanics, with the style of Unity + Freerun Down would be the perfect parkour in my opinion.
@@JackSpackProductions AC 1 was annoying for me because Altaïr is slow at climbing up. Assassin's creed 2 was good. Revelations was better but sometimes it can be unsatisfying and not smooth when you don't expect him to stop in the middle of climbing while using hookblade. 3 was satisfying for some reason maybe how Connor climbs or the animations idk. Unity amazing. Syndicate good as well. RPG trash and even 1 was better.
I think the perfect movement mechanics would fall somewhere in between the Ezio trilogy and Unity... I love the exaggerated swagger of the young Italian man and the movement options that the hookblade brings (although it makes climbing feel a little bland), but the sheer variety of Arno's abilities makes me feel horrible considering I beat the game without even exploring them thoroughly. I guess it helps that the complicated modern age architecture that all those games have in common is pretty conducive to a pleasant parkour experience.
Man, I remember my first time playing AC3 I thought Connor was way faster than Ezio (I hadn't played Revelations yet), but I'm actually shocked at how slow he is. I feel like a lot of it comes down to the architecture of the buildings though; Ezio's games generally had the best architecture, because they took place in a setting where it was a big deal, but most of the later PS3 era games were in a fairly undeveloped America, so the architecture really wasn't that impressive, thus making the parkour a little slower.
I Didn't think that Ezio would be s good but then again he has what i call "ladder climbing". He climbs most walls continous without pause, just like a ladder.
In AC game lore, Ezio is always reference point for experience and skill, and still I always find funny how the fanbase still thinks Connor is the deadliest just because he has finishing moves and counters xD
@@5copfxqtIt is not just the finishers though. I like ezio and his feats are impressive but Connor has the physical build, the skill and the will so I think he is tied or at least close to ezio or altair. He single handly took down the american templars in terms of feats and he took part in the american civil war at old age and he rebuilt the brotherhood as well.
@@bah2vi I'm not saying Connor isn't good as an assassin's, he was a great one, as Influential. But again, by lore, Ezio is more skilled and experienced
@@5copfxqt There is no source outright saying he is more skilled but my point is a lot of people seem to underestimate Connor. He may not be better or as good as Ezio but judging by his feats and gameplay he seems to be as good or close to as good. Ezio obviously has more experience.
Assassins creed 1 is such a realistic game and I love it, from people just don’t understand why you’re running and climbing, to the guards getting suspicious of you being “well armed” and running around.
Let's be fair here, Altaïr had the slowest time because he had to climb one point at a time, was the first to implement climbing and parkour and the mechanic wasn't as polished as the sequels for obvious reasons.
The buildings and walls in AC1 are wayy too interactive, you can literally see and feel Altair's hands placing on each grabbable ledge, which sadly, keeps forcing him to climb one point at a time
I always knew Ezio was the fastest. And Connor is almost the slowest, because he is huge, he has a lot of weight and height. Avelin surprised, it's unexpected) and so, of course, the fastest are Ezio and Cassandra
how is having more muscles making Connor slower? in fact he should be able to pull himself up faster because his arms and legs are more muscular and Connor has been climbing and parkouring since he was a teenager. Plus Italian buildings seem to have less grabbing points than the colonial building he climbed in the video. We can see connor can do a fast jump when there is a long gap between grab points. I am pretty certain he is not the slowest. Maybe not the fastest but not the slowest
@@bah2vi I understand everything, but I don't mean that Connor is hopeless, but that a man has a large physique and therefore it is very difficult to do parkour. He's a talent in his own right, because he doesn't even have the weight designed for such movements. His height is, if I'm not mistaken, 196. And the weight is 100 . Therefore, it is not surprising that it is slower in speed
@@MalikY569 correct. Conner has a strong physique for one of the protagonists in A/C series. Plus this video really shows him side shift in the beginning when climbing so I don’t think that was a fair climb to compare to the others. Also, newer A/C games purposely streamline climbing by having more “jumping” vertical movements. They will be faster and it benefits the person playing so it doesn’t take longer.... For what the developer thinks anyway.
Can we just admire the fact that despite Connor’s muscular build that should realistically make him slower than every other protagonist, he’s still excellent at climbing and parkour
The pre rpg guys heavily depend on side ejects and back ejects to gain vertical height rather than just holding up, ubi did away with that in the rpg game which is why they felt the need to increase the climbing speed, theu removed one of the best features of assassins creed and slapped a bandaid fix on it
Origins first hour was like Where's the second button for climbing. Usually its the jump, high profile and movement key combined. Then in origins onwards....
The problem here is that ubisoft never really gave this a thorough insight and also because the games animations differ from each other in how they are made, there is a reason why physics look stupid in the later rpg games. People keep arguing in the comments giving different reasons when it's just the developers fault. I'd like to think that connor is the fastest climber but maybe ezio can also outmatch him with the double jump or the hookblade. Connor just seems to have that robust build out of every assassin. Or my second bet would also be Adewale or edward. It just comes down to lifestyle and lore of these characters.
Altair's climbing depends on places he has to step on if he has obstacles on less distance than he would climb normally rather than jumping. But in every other game protaganist climb with jumping ignoring the safety. So yeah, altair's climbing is most practical. It takes human body capabilities into account
I think honestly it's hard to say between all of them. The buildings they are climbing are different. Some has more ledges and some more leap. Of course the leap gonna be faster because the game mechanics tells them to jump for it, therefore covers more distance in a single movement. Some of them got screwed cause there are soo many ledges and windows due to the time periods. And since most of them are like a split second or 2 difference. I can't see how this is a determining factor on who's faster 😕 but let me say this. Still an interesting video, good stuff 👍
I dont think people realize how techinical and intricate the climbing was in ac1 and 2. Each step and movement is on point with the object he is climbing with ac2 just a bit more cracked. Revelations and above is where they got lazy I think. The majority of the wall climb is just leaping above.
I always liked how much weight Connor had to his movements, one of my gripes about the new RPG style games is that the characters movements don't feel realistically weighty
I thought for sure Arno had everyone beat, but yeah like the comments say probably should find buildings at least similar in structure. That was probably the smoothest climb for Altair in the whole game, I personally never seem to climb like that. I suppose it would indeed be hard to find exactly the same type of jump and climbing structure but idk how Altair wasn't absolutely blown out of the water. When I had to re-gain all my gamerscore it felt like everything took forever to climb with him. Think I also have the idea about sideways movement too, still feel out of all the games Arno had the best movement out of anyone personally. (Discounting the use of grapple since that's not exactly the assassin's own doing)
You should make a video about who climbs the most realistically, has the best mechanics and looks the most symmetrical. In Odyssey, origin and valhalla they barely have anything to grab onto, they just jump straight up 2 meters at a time, looks really stiff.
Realistically Connor is one of the biggest guys here, not only that but he does not have the advantage of constantly running around fighting with a sword/axe every 5 seconds to keep him in peak condition. (Like the rpg characters are living)
I appreciate the effort that went into showing HOW you measured the times, but you changed the structures up too much for a fair comparison. One example was Arno. His building had a ledge he had to pull up on to and stand on towards the top before he could climb again and finish. That extra mantle he had to do on that ledge probably cost him a second. A wall with no funny business from ground to roof would be the best way to calculate this. Dropped a like, but I just wanted to point that out.
How fast they climb in the game has no lore implications. The speed at which a character climbs in one game is just the way the developers thought it should be from a gameplay perspective at the time during the development of that particular game
You missed Altair in Revelations. I think he climbs as fast as Ezio without hookblade but I'm not sure. Would be fun to see how Altair climbs with every appearance in Revelations
not only the hight should be the same, the layout of the grab points should be the same aswell. Like there are way more grab points closer together at the wall in AC3 in comparison with AC origins or AC Syndicate. The further the points away from each other, the higher are the jumps that the chars are doing and there for being faster.
You can’t really measure this properly unless you spend a painful amount of time finding the exact same surfaces for the characters to climb. It’s a neat video but it’s a bit of a skewed view, still cool.
Also a factor to consider, climbing animations vs available ledges to grab on to, each one could be min/maxed to climb faster with the right ledges to climb onto
Wow, we play as so many protagonists throughout the years, it would be cool if we saw everyone in the same room talking to each other or revealing secrets about the Creed. Or making a school and giving everything they have to the younger ones to make the strongest generation of assassins ever.
Not sure about Arno. That climb didn't look like 12 meters. Since the distance from the marker is angled the building's height would be higher than subtracting the two numbers. It should be a bit below 16 or around 15 meters, not 12. Like this he would be on pair with Altaïr and Ezio.
Pretty sure the reason why the rpg characters are faster is because of the size and density of the worlds. When a game is being developed, the scale and density of a map sometimes affects who they decide to deal with the transportation and other movements. Like a game with a huge map sometimes has the characters be faster to allow for easier travel around the map while smaller maps make it slower to have it feel bigger than it actually is or they can do what AC used to do and have an entire parkour system to keep your trips a bit more interesting. So because the rpg maps are bigger and more open, the characters usually travel faster than the old games whose maps are smaller or more dense and the parkour systems are kind of the whole point.
Did you account for the potential change in climbing speed with the spacing of ledges? I feel like a lot of it may have came down to the fact the parkour system may have picked slower animations and vantage points due to their closeness. For example, when it came down to buildings with a lot of windows and seams: less efficient leaps were made compared to more smooth walls.
Unfortunately it’s hard to make good comparisons due to how different all of the buildings are in each game. Trying to find similar buildings in all games is like where’s Waldo but 100x harder.
@@seva7500 fair. Probably easier to just use the building that is most commonly found anyway, as that would be the building climbing speed that you will have to deal with most of the time anyway. Games like Origins have bigger buildings, but only in very specific places, so I’d imagine how that isn’t really a good indicator of anything.
AC 3 just got that fire, the animation, the details, the lighting, scenery, and movement idk why but playing as Connor feels so god deym good and fluent, the game just so much ahead of its time. Only Unity can beat the game in term of parkour, and omg I wish they made a second game for Connor so much his story is so unfinished, he was young and bold, only fighting for the things he believed in, for freedom, but in the end its so bitter sweet to see everything he works for turn to ashed, but its so much fitting for the setting of AC3, there are no black and white, and see him finally understand that and grew as a character after everything that he lost, just so he can help desmond save the world in the future is so touching. The Templar in this game is portrayed so good that you can actually side with their ideas, that level of antagonist is what make the story peaked. Sadly most of Connor character is hidden behind side story, I wish we can get a second game for him so we can actually see the wise and older version of Connor Kenway.
one factor is left out in here, the type of building, there are buildings that allow fast climbing and slow climbing, if you played the games you'll get where i'm coming from. In ac3, ac4 and rogue, sometimes your character would do a climbing leap that somewhat staggers him and makes him climb slower than usual because the ledges are a bit far apart, there are specific buildings in ac rogue where you can climb in under 3-4 seconds lol
Doesn’t Arno climb way faster if you use the dynamic parkour options that were in Unity? Like diagonal climbing and using wall ejects and side-leaps and stuff… or whatever they’re called
I think what would've been a better and more effective way was to find an actual historic building of some kind throughout the games. Find out how tall they are and start climbing. To find the speed, you'd plug in this equation. Speed = Distance (in this case, height) / Time of climbing. If you do this, it would've been quite easy to figure out who's the fastest climber throughout all of the games.
Yeah, the Protagonists of the new games are faster, but look at these climbing animations, the new characters jump over 3 meters at a fckin wall, good old Parkour will always be the best
Ahh... I miss those days when Ezio scaled buildings with his hookblade, yet somehow climbing felt intuitive and challenging at the same time, unlike Syndicate's cheap Gravity defying grappling hook.
Ac unity calculation is wrong If you go down hypotenus is 17 adjacent Is 5 so u needed to find vertical which is 16 not 12 Note: well don't roast me it's just my comment 🤗
A bit late but i think something that needs to be pointed out is how complex the building is. I feel like arno would climb faster if the building design looks like the one in AC1. But overall these are such good results
@@cutecell2798 that because in Unity and Syndicate, those game have a lot more sophisticated parkour mechanic. You can actually optimized your ascend. In those games, you can side eject to higher ledge (on the above)
@@Max128ping unity and syndicate dont have more sophisticated climbing mechanics. They are more streamlined and offer less control that the older games, in unity and syndicate you press two buttons and the game will do what it wants.
Parkour has been more simplified and made faster in rpg series. So with grapppling hook, Frye twins are fastest and without our malaka misthios is fastest. Eivor is a bit slow climber
Altair’s climbing is safe and practical, like a real life climber
Meanwhile in Valhalla and Odyssey I believe I can fly
Where as Ezio is freakin careless, and in rpg games they break laws of physics like even though it still existed it wasn’t thought of and so doesn’t exist to them. Good observation though, also Connor looks to be taking it slower and more careful due to weight, interesting, Ubi actually cared back then, hmmmm
@@Solobuddy man origins was good but odyssey and valahala complete garbage
@@zayedharoon3910 not asked
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You literally just don’t take fall damage
Was genuinly shocked how slow Connor is but when you think about it, he’s canonically a burly guy. He was sort of the tank of the games. I think it makes sense. I would think revelations ezio would be slower because of age but the old mans still got it
It's the hook blade doing the work but ok
@@staple_boi Still, the hook blade is like a cane and he still needs a lot of strength to pull himself up like that. Dude's jacked even as a senior citizen
@@oz2037 good input
Some of the turkish assassins have commented that Ezio still moves like a 20 year old for a man his age and that a lot of them couldn't even keep up with him.
@@staple_boi I don’t know if you understand basic physics but that hook wasn’t pulling him up by itself. It was just extended reach. Man climbs fast with or without
I think that in the old assassin's creed the parkour and climb were more realistic , because the character had more difficult to reach high points , was easy to fail and fall . But nowadays the character is a God climber , climbing all the walls without none problem , sometimes it doesn't looks like real . The assissin's creed Unity got the best parkour and moves followed for Syndicate and Valhalla .
Ikr. Altair was the only one who climbs normally but really impressively. It felt amazing. Now they're all f*cking spiderman 😂
I kind of liked how Altaïr,Ezio, Connor and Edward wall climb like they make the runs up the wall while Arno and Jacob just Spidermans the walls... Bayek, Kassandra and Eivor has a weird hop or something when they wall climb
@@ameemrashaad2038 don't copy francesco
@@cfg_gg Francesco Pazzi no never ahahaha but no I mean that's what I genuinely felt when I first saw Arno's climbing mechanics at the E3 reveal in 2014
@@ameemrashaad2038 Arno is more of a style and fancy trick guy. I don't have a problem with it because he does look stylish but yeah sometimes arno just does impossible moves.
If we’re looking from a realistic point of view, Altairs is the most realistic. He is efficient but also careful making him a little slower, which is what it’d actually be like if you’re scaling the side of a building in real life
I think it'd be great to have an AC game that involves a more realistic climbing style as seen in AC1. Combine that with a decently hard combat system, and you'd get a great stealth incentive: Be smart, plan ahead, be sneaky.
Imo I think every characters are realistic. Even you and your friends are built different my friend
@@ferdiemvira AC1 AC2 ACB ACR have the best parkour hands down, Unity comes close but not quite as.
@@thechanglongwang ac unity has the best parkour but u are prob just a old head..
@@moshedayan1690They got a point tho? I love Unity but you can’t deny just how inconsistent and glitchy the parkour is in that game. On top of that, you have less control over where you want to jump and you can’t cancel any of the animations like the older games, hence the input lags. Unity has a good foundation, but it needed more polishing
I think this just goes to show how much fluid animation has to do with the way the game feels because connor always felt ridiculously fast and agile to me just cause of the power and weight of his movements combined with seamless animation.
And i am referencing both the running and climbing test
I am playing ac3 and he is slow but the animations make him look fast just like in racing games there is screen shaking to make the cars feel super speedy otherwise it would not feel fast.
Basicaly the slower they are the better the parkour is, since all these RPG games cuts the animations or parkour mechanics to throw some half baked parkour 😂
Ezio is a exception tho
True man and wanna know something? To my surprise ezio in brotherhood in some aspects is far faster than Arno like he jumped across things super fast and can sprint on ropes which is something Arno can’t do which I Lowkey wish he could do because constantly getting shot has got to be the most annoying thing about unity for me so being able to get away faster would’ve been so clutch for my bank account in that game (cause I had to buy more medicine)
@@lol_histicall4289 The enemy accuracy was a huge issue for me in Unity in general. I have very fond memories in 3 and 4 of desperately fleeing up a wall while lead balls bounce of the masonry while muskets crack and belch fire below. It was incredibly cinematic for 1 and 2 you did the whole thing with crossed fingers and clinched cheeks cause you COULD get away or you could get shot it may go either way. In Unity if someone in the next postal code, over a small wall, and past a dense crowd draws his smoothbore pistol it will inevitably politely weave its way through the crowd and around all the tables and obstacles and bury itself in you backside like thats its morning comute and not an impossible shot. You simply could not flee from gunfire in unity.
Apparently the in canon explanation is that Connor as an Assassin has a heavier set build compared to everyone else so that slightly hampers his free running ability, but not that much.
heavier set build ? you mean his body ? then it is right but the armor from ezio is heavier.
@@hippokrates4494 you don't know what heavier set build is, right?
adewale seems to have the biggest build out of any ac protagonist
Didnt Desmond use the same climbing animations from Connor? lmao
@@1gta4gta yeah but Desmond is a goof
One thing that didn't do Connor justice is that there are different climbing mechanics for different buildings, based on the ledges they're going to have to climb. Aveline, for example, uses the same engine as ACIII, meaning the parkour is identical, but the church she climbed had much fewer things to grab onto than the building Connor climbed. If Connor climbed the same building as Aveline, he would've had an identical time to her.
Altair: 1.2m per second
Ezio (AC2): 2m per second
Ezio (ACB): 2m per second
Ezio (ACR): 2.4m per second (* with Hookblade assistance*)
Connor: 1.3m per second
Aveline: 2m per second
Edward & Adewale: 1.5m per second
Shay: 1.71m per second
Arno: 1.5m per second
Jacob & Evie (Free Climb): 2m per second
Jacob & Evie (Grapple): 4m per second
Bayek & Aya: 2.4m per second
Alexios & Kassandra: 2.4m per second
Eivor: 2m per second
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Damn they make this much money per second??
It's not really a fair comparison. Altair climbs a wall that doesn't need him to jump vertically to reach other footholds so he takes his time climbing it Spiderman style while the other protagonist climb different type of walls that require them to climb them monkey style making vertical jumps to continue the climb so obviously they take less time and climb faster...
It also depends about what they are climbing on
3:26 I love how the assassin's Creed 3 theme kicks in as Connor climbs the building.
Don't forget that on AC3, they first introduced tree climbing. And because of lore, they made his animation in tree or rock climbing even more focused or natural than his building climbing.
Rip hookblade
Haha, they should bring back those things in the next Assassin’s Creed game. Man those things were so useful and they were only used and it was only useful in 1 game which is Revelations, which wasn’t a big predecessor to Assassin’s Creed II and Brotherhood.
@@eivorwolf-kissed6790 And they still dare to say Revelations is the worst AC game and brings nothing new. I started my adventure with that game and missed hookblade on any other game
@@the_Ikar the people who say it's the worst have the right. I think it's exactly in the middle. Its economic system is the worst in the franchise, the catchledges and ejects downgraded pretty much, it has no horse riding, virtual training is god awful, city is extremely repetitive and even the guipdd have nothing special about them except for the mercenaries' guild. At least 5 controls are set to the same control and the game changes the action randomly. The jannisaries' amount of times they use guns is enormous against the amount of times they actually fight which is heartbreaking. Counter throws on weak enemy types being non-lethal counter kills that have the killed target move on the ground after, yet counting as desynchronization in do not kill anyone objectives is just stupid. The pacing is 1/10 no clickbait. Why can't i do sweat den defences after doing the master assassin missions? There are only 4 assassinations side content included. It has very small input lag. The collectibles are just bad because you get npthing for all 100 data fragments but the cheap desmond sequences.
@@the_Ikar Actually, Revelations was disappointing to me. It didn’t conclude perfectly to Ezio’s legacy. The whole game was nothing new and everything was the same as before. The open-world is small and non-interactive and the grinding, bribing, and renovating system is the worst. Also, the recruiting assassins and the capturing temples/battle/defend system is pretty bad and boring. Revelations could’ve been better like the previous entries in the Ezio Trilogy. Revelations was the first Assassin’s Creed game to be a disappointment along when Assassin’s Creed III came out which number III was disappointing to me as well.
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I like the way Altair climbs, he's smooth af. He may be slow but he's got style. Meanwhile, Connor is the twitchiest. He's slow because he stops every couple of seconds to gather power for a pull up that he really didn't need.
He's literally faster than Altair
@@staple_boi yeah because altair is quite unbelievably slow and stars the first game of the series, comparing Connor to the newer aged climbing that came around his time he's quite slow
@@poo5011 The funny thing is in Assassins Creed Revelation, the parts where you play as Altair he climbs as fast as Ezio.
You can actually make altair climb in a different style tho, just screw around when he's climbing a bit and he might start climbing in a fancier style
Can you blame the guy? bro is built like a tank and is 6'3 + all that armour, weapons, bow, etc.
Connor may not be a fast climber, but he sure is fast when freerunning. Dude is built like a tank but man can he run. All that time hunting for his tribe in the trees really pays off.
If you're going to compare climbing speed, at least make sure that the design of these buildings are largely the same. Because some of the "slower" climbers are actually faster than the "faster" climbers. Like flat top.
yes i wanted to do so... and i even explored all games for many hours...but sadly each game has different building designs
@@mentorAKG29 I get that. But each one has a flat top. I'm sure you could find a flat top building in each game somewhere.
@@Cloudx0x each game has a unique world to interact with. I doubt you could find a similar building if you compare all games. Also the first games are limited to climbing only buildings, you can only climb trees and rocks starting with AC3 if I remember correctly. Also the newer ones starting from Origins don't have a lot of buildings to do a fair comparison with. I am fine with the current examples but there are multiple conditions that you can bring up to prove that one is faster than the other and in that specific case it might be true. Ezio for example has a jump feature while climbing up to reach a higher ledge, just adding that to the end of the climb would make him faster but I don't think that would be a fair comparison to the rest of the assassins.
@@mentorAKG29 So your saying Unity had no other building to use? I find that really hard to believe
@@DatManJB instead of complaining, why don't you try making the video?
In the old assassins, climbing could be combined with other ways to climb the building: mini levels of parkour gave accelerated movement, which encouraged the player to find the fastest possible ways to move. In the RPG games of assassins on parkour, such an emphasis is not made, which is why Parkour was artificially accelerated.
Or maybe it was accelerated to remove some of the focus on the parkour movement
@@TheChocoboRacer
To then just make it about fighting and executions because they eventually diverted from assassination as well.
That's what i'd kinda thinking, they made the parkour much more accelerating for RPG AC's since these games weren't based on the parkour system as much as the other AC's games builded on, so they might be done this in order to for players to spend less time on parkour and so they can give more of their time to things like combat, Side mission and story missions etc etc.
Guys guys. I think we all have it wrong see. It's ubisoft we are taking about here. Surely they would not want the players focus be on finishing a game so that they can sell their dlcs faster. No way. Ubi are much too angelic for that. Player satisfaction is top priority.
@@x0gucx Playing Odyssey rn, Idk bro, I like the fact that I can adjust gameplay from mission to mission. I can play brute force warrior style when I'm in combat mission, I can clean up forts with my assassin kit and execute mission targets without spending 20 mins to clear up the whole private army, and I play with bow and arrow when I'm killing mercenaries for contracts and rewards. People are crying too much about Odyssey, yes I know its more of a Ancient Greece Simulator instead of classic Assassins Creed, but the game is pretty damn good... Its RPG with massive world, very colorful and beautiful graphics, solid story. Only thing that I'm like angry is the same like in every other AC, things get repetitive after 40ish hours of playing. It is: go, travel, steal, bring, give, kill and that is about it. And I'm pissed cause Darius did not gave me the hidden blade, and I'm stuck with spear for "assassination" :D Cheers
People mostly think Arno or Connor climb faster thank Ezio, but in fact is just the smooth animation that makes them look faster but Ezio's and Altair is faster and practical
Damn an ezio fam
Probably because everything looks short even the building and shit
Altaïr is the "fastest" assassin.
@@arishkhan4503 and proud of it
Altair???WTF he is the slowest
I like how much the reactions of civilians changes throughout the games. They go from shock and curiosity to interest and fascination to finally not even giving a shit. Lol
it's like evolution going backwards. beautiful....
In Syndicate, climbing the very high structures is what justifies the use of the grappler launcher. When used, the character usually have to take a step or two away from the building and wait for the grappler to find an anchor point. Then, you get to climb at high speed (second only the single use elevators).
That and crossing the wide gap between buildings separated by the streets
According to lore middle-aged Ezio (well trained Ezio) was the fastest, followed by young Altaïr. However they weren't the best, it was actually Connor, he free climbed mountains with ease, even in storms and rain.
Speed does not equal skill and efficiency.
Yeah, but the focus here was, in fact, speed.
These aren't accurate at all, it depends heavily on the surface they are climbing; the distance between each projection on the wall they can hold. Here you made Kassandra climb a pillar in which she had no choice other than to leap up. Make her climb a rock mountain for 12 metres and you will see a drastic decrease in her climbing speed. I always felt like Bayek/Aya were the fastest climbers overall without considering the hook blade and grappling hook climbers though, could be wrong.
No shit smarty
We know its not accurate, nobody said that it's scientifically proven or anything
@@krisztoth8475 what's the point of making the fuckin video if you aren't accurate as possible...
@@krisztoth8475you don't have to be a asshole about it
@@beastmode9988 if you dont want stupid answers, dont say stupid shit on the internet
Personally for me Ezio seems like the most balanced of the assassins in speed, skill and experience. The way he improves himself over each game is also extremely impressive.
When I started Revelations I thought he would be old and start being slower or get rusty but instead he was learning new ways to assassinate and travel. He always said that he was "eager to learn" and he searched for Altair's library for knowledge.
The hookblade and the bombs. For an older assassin who was a Mentor he never let his position hold him back from learning from Yusuf. I have only played as Ezio, Shay Cormac and the Frye Twins so far with a little bit of Kenway and Altair but I cannot have a say in the others especially Connor. I plan to play him after I'm done with Revelations.
Either way I haven't felt the feeling of actually climbing and doing parkour and having fun while doing it in a game like I do with Altair and Ezio mainly. Plus the hookblade and the zipline is really enjoyable to the point I avoid using the tunnel systems.
no shot someone read this
@@izzulirfan2984 I did read it. 😶
@@izzulirfan2984 I did... does people really have that big problem to read comments which time to read up is longer than 5 seconds?
@@izzulirfan2984 I read Ezio my favorite assassin lol
Arno can go faster if you spam the jump button while going up. This makes him pretty much as fast as Bayek when it comes to climbing 12 meters
Great video, but there is a problem, in unity you actually climbed around 16 meters. The 3 points you used for perspective form a triangle with base 5 and a hipotenuse of 17, if you apply the pythagorean theorem you get the square root of 264, and that is around 16,2 meters for the lenght of height.
not bad
my man really out here doing algebra for a yt comment, respect
Yea thought his method there was inaccurate. Was deff wat more than 12 m by eyesight too
nc one was about to point this out
It would be more accurate if we could use buildings with similar layout. I think Connor could climb faster is that building's layout were different.
In the same way, I believe the layout from the more recent RPG games (Origins onward) is more lenient and helps the guys climb faster
Too many disruptive variables to consider. Especially in Connor's case. The parkour mechanics in the traversal and platforming engine of AC3 was known for being notoriously "sticky." It looked like Connor took more pauses intermittently just holding onto edges longer than he needed to. I noticed a short bit of that in the Edward and Adewale comparison too. Both flew up that climb quickly but just beneath the top ledge, Adewale looked to get too "clingy" (no pun intended) before reaching the top which delayed him by a good 1.5 or almost two seconds.
i think that was intended, hes the only "tank" assassin, 6'2 200lbs, bro needs the time to pause and get his power
I forgot how fluid AC1's climbing animations were. Straight up climbing looks and feels a lot better than almost all of the other games imo. I loved it when their goal was to make the characters have weight and move like people, not larger than life heroes.
It was not so smooth on the most buildings. There was a lot of "hop one step, use the same hand after a short pause" moments that made the game feel clunky imo
You're just being nostalgic
@@unknownguywholovespizza No, I just quite like the slower feel. It was still fluid and it increased the skill ceiling since it made the player have to think about using their full arsenal to go quicker. You were encouraged to use ejects and such as that to avoid straight climbing a wall. It’s arguably faster now to just hold forward until you reach a rooftop. I’m not saying it’s perfect, but I prefer it by miles over the RPG games. Developers further refining AC1’s mechanics, with the style of Unity + Freerun Down would be the perfect parkour in my opinion.
@@JackSpackProductions AC 1 was annoying for me because Altaïr is slow at climbing up. Assassin's creed 2 was good. Revelations was better but sometimes it can be unsatisfying and not smooth when you don't expect him to stop in the middle of climbing while using hookblade. 3 was satisfying for some reason maybe how Connor climbs or the animations idk. Unity amazing. Syndicate good as well. RPG trash and even 1 was better.
I think the perfect movement mechanics would fall somewhere in between the Ezio trilogy and Unity... I love the exaggerated swagger of the young Italian man and the movement options that the hookblade brings (although it makes climbing feel a little bland), but the sheer variety of Arno's abilities makes me feel horrible considering I beat the game without even exploring them thoroughly. I guess it helps that the complicated modern age architecture that all those games have in common is pretty conducive to a pleasant parkour experience.
Man, I remember my first time playing AC3 I thought Connor was way faster than Ezio (I hadn't played Revelations yet), but I'm actually shocked at how slow he is. I feel like a lot of it comes down to the architecture of the buildings though; Ezio's games generally had the best architecture, because they took place in a setting where it was a big deal, but most of the later PS3 era games were in a fairly undeveloped America, so the architecture really wasn't that impressive, thus making the parkour a little slower.
I Didn't think that Ezio would be s good but then again he has what i call "ladder climbing". He climbs most walls continous without pause, just like a ladder.
In AC game lore, Ezio is always reference point for experience and skill, and still I always find funny how the fanbase still thinks Connor is the deadliest just because he has finishing moves and counters xD
@@5copfxqtIt is not just the finishers though. I like ezio and his feats are impressive but Connor has the physical build, the skill and the will so I think he is tied or at least close to ezio or altair. He single handly took down the american templars in terms of feats and he took part in the american civil war at old age and he rebuilt the brotherhood as well.
@@bah2vi I'm not saying Connor isn't good as an assassin's, he was a great one, as Influential.
But again, by lore, Ezio is more skilled and experienced
@@5copfxqt There is no source outright saying he is more skilled but my point is a lot of people seem to underestimate Connor. He may not be better or as good as Ezio but judging by his feats and gameplay he seems to be as good or close to as good. Ezio obviously has more experience.
@@bah2vi of course there is source of Ezio being a reference of experience.
Assassins creed 1 is such a realistic game and I love it, from people just don’t understand why you’re running and climbing, to the guards getting suspicious of you being “well armed” and running around.
It mostly depends on the building.
5:24 weird for a guy who lived in a city all his life. (Although Ezio lived in the cities to so maybe I shouldn’t argue with that
idk its a little hard to compare with each ac game being set in different parts of the world where building designs are different
Let's be fair here, Altaïr had the slowest time because he had to climb one point at a time, was the first to implement climbing and parkour and the mechanic wasn't as polished as the sequels for obvious reasons.
The buildings and walls in AC1 are wayy too interactive, you can literally see and feel Altair's hands placing on each grabbable ledge, which sadly, keeps forcing him to climb one point at a time
@@cheesuschrists + his parkour is realistic. Not like in new AC games where protoganists almost fly when they do parkour.
@@Not_Sandor I just realize it too
he climbs the same speed as ezio in revelations.
Prince of Persia ...
I always knew Ezio was the fastest. And Connor is almost the slowest, because he is huge, he has a lot of weight and height. Avelin surprised, it's unexpected) and so, of course, the fastest are Ezio and Cassandra
how is having more muscles making Connor slower? in fact he should be able to pull himself up faster because his arms and legs are more muscular and Connor has been climbing and parkouring since he was a teenager. Plus Italian buildings seem to have less grabbing points than the colonial building he climbed in the video. We can see connor can do a fast jump when there is a long gap between grab points. I am pretty certain he is not the slowest. Maybe not the fastest but not the slowest
Hmm, but Cassandra and Alexios have a lot of muscles too
@@bah2vi I understand everything, but I don't mean that Connor is hopeless, but that a man has a large physique and therefore it is very difficult to do parkour. He's a talent in his own right, because he doesn't even have the weight designed for such movements. His height is, if I'm not mistaken, 196. And the weight is 100 . Therefore, it is not surprising that it is slower in speed
@@MalikY569 correct. Conner has a strong physique for one of the protagonists in A/C series. Plus this video really shows him side shift in the beginning when climbing so I don’t think that was a fair climb to compare to the others.
Also, newer A/C games purposely streamline climbing by having more “jumping” vertical movements. They will be faster and it benefits the person playing so it doesn’t take longer.... For what the developer thinks anyway.
Can we just admire the fact that despite Connor’s muscular build that should realistically make him slower than every other protagonist, he’s still excellent at climbing and parkour
Connor: hold my eagle skill
Jacob/Evie: hold my grapple hook
Odin: hold my power
Iron Man Be Like :- Hey Everyone
@@mafiaalphasshorts7567 Alexios/ Kassandra would literally eat iron man for breakfast lol.
An unwritten fun fact: your character starts climbing faster when you hear Ezio’s theme.
The pre rpg guys heavily depend on side ejects and back ejects to gain vertical height rather than just holding up, ubi did away with that in the rpg game which is why they felt the need to increase the climbing speed, theu removed one of the best features of assassins creed and slapped a bandaid fix on it
Origins first hour was like Where's the second button for climbing. Usually its the jump, high profile and movement key combined. Then in origins onwards....
The problem here is that ubisoft never really gave this a thorough insight and also because the games animations differ from each other in how they are made, there is a reason why physics look stupid in the later rpg games. People keep arguing in the comments giving different reasons when it's just the developers fault. I'd like to think that connor is the fastest climber but maybe ezio can also outmatch him with the double jump or the hookblade. Connor just seems to have that robust build out of every assassin. Or my second bet would also be Adewale or edward. It just comes down to lifestyle and lore of these characters.
Ya I agree Conor is by far the most jacked assassin
It depends what kind of building are thy climbing on
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In my opinion, 3 and Rogue's climbing speed is the perfect balance between realism and fiction.
I don't think it was done totally right, but I've appreciated you dedication. Could you make a video about smoke bombs?
yes i will
AC Odyssey: nah you won’t
lol
Loved the amount of work u put into this video keep going 💯💯💙
thankyou
Altair's climbing depends on places he has to step on if he has obstacles on less distance than he would climb normally rather than jumping. But in every other game protaganist climb with jumping ignoring the safety. So yeah, altair's climbing is most practical. It takes human body capabilities into account
To be fair, this doesn't measure what Arno is actually able to do with Unity's parkour system. i.e. climbing at an angle and controlled descents.
I think honestly it's hard to say between all of them. The buildings they are climbing are different. Some has more ledges and some more leap. Of course the leap gonna be faster because the game mechanics tells them to jump for it, therefore covers more distance in a single movement. Some of them got screwed cause there are soo many ledges and windows due to the time periods. And since most of them are like a split second or 2 difference. I can't see how this is a determining factor on who's faster 😕 but let me say this. Still an interesting video, good stuff 👍
As a parkour athlete, Ac1 to Ac rogue has to be the most realistic approach in parkour and free running.
It's absurd how Eivor barely touches the wall.
Great video! I don't know anyone else that would have thought of this or would've even done it at all. So hats off to you
Thank you so much 😀
I dont think people realize how techinical and intricate the climbing was in ac1 and 2. Each step and movement is on point with the object he is climbing with ac2 just a bit more cracked. Revelations and above is where they got lazy I think. The majority of the wall climb is just leaping above.
I always liked how much weight Connor had to his movements, one of my gripes about the new RPG style games is that the characters movements don't feel realistically weighty
I thought for sure Arno had everyone beat, but yeah like the comments say probably should find buildings at least similar in structure. That was probably the smoothest climb for Altair in the whole game, I personally never seem to climb like that. I suppose it would indeed be hard to find exactly the same type of jump and climbing structure but idk how Altair wasn't absolutely blown out of the water. When I had to re-gain all my gamerscore it felt like everything took forever to climb with him.
Think I also have the idea about sideways movement too, still feel out of all the games Arno had the best movement out of anyone personally. (Discounting the use of grapple since that's not exactly the assassin's own doing)
You should make a video about who climbs the most realistically, has the best mechanics and looks the most symmetrical. In Odyssey, origin and valhalla they barely have anything to grab onto, they just jump straight up 2 meters at a time, looks really stiff.
Realistically Connor is one of the biggest guys here, not only that but he does not have the advantage of constantly running around fighting with a sword/axe every 5 seconds to keep him in peak condition. (Like the rpg characters are living)
bro, you put so much time into hese videos, you deserve praise 👏👏👏
Thank you so much 😀
Jacob & Evie : WOOOOOOOO! *grappling hook*
I appreciate the effort that went into showing HOW you measured the times, but you changed the structures up too much for a fair comparison. One example was Arno. His building had a ledge he had to pull up on to and stand on towards the top before he could climb again and finish. That extra mantle he had to do on that ledge probably cost him a second. A wall with no funny business from ground to roof would be the best way to calculate this. Dropped a like, but I just wanted to point that out.
Well it's not Altair that's for sure lol
Yeah lol
I'm damn sure everyone said that before clicking
@@devanshkumar6305 facts but tbh I was quite impressed to find him in the top 3 I thought he'll be last😂
Not the fastest, but imo most realistic
@@Hyju_ Presumably
How fast they climb in the game has no lore implications. The speed at which a character climbs in one game is just the way the developers thought it should be from a gameplay perspective at the time during the development of that particular game
You missed Altair in Revelations. I think he climbs as fast as Ezio without hookblade but I'm not sure. Would be fun to see how Altair climbs with every appearance in Revelations
I personally thinks Arno was the most elegant.
BTW, the best parkour in AC: Unity.
not only the hight should be the same, the layout of the grab points should be the same aswell. Like there are way more grab points closer together at the wall in AC3 in comparison with AC origins or AC Syndicate. The further the points away from each other, the higher are the jumps that the chars are doing and there for being faster.
That's a great choice and timing for the music
You can’t really measure this properly unless you spend a painful amount of time finding the exact same surfaces for the characters to climb. It’s a neat video but it’s a bit of a skewed view, still cool.
Also a factor to consider, climbing animations vs available ledges to grab on to, each one could be min/maxed to climb faster with the right ledges to climb onto
I was surprised by this, animations does make a difference
Wow, we play as so many protagonists throughout the years, it would be cool if we saw everyone in the same room talking to each other or revealing secrets about the Creed. Or making a school and giving everything they have to the younger ones to make the strongest generation of assassins ever.
Also would like to see if they can stand each other and of they develop any differences etc lol
Not sure about Arno. That climb didn't look like 12 meters. Since the distance from the marker is angled the building's height would be higher than subtracting the two numbers. It should be a bit below 16 or around 15 meters, not 12. Like this he would be on pair with Altaïr and Ezio.
Someone else commented did the math and its about 16.2m so ur right too
I actually enjoyed this video a lot, thanks man
Older ezio is better than young ezio well done maestro
Everyone gangsta untill Jacob and Evie bring in their rope launchers🤣
Pretty sure the reason why the rpg characters are faster is because of the size and density of the worlds.
When a game is being developed, the scale and density of a map sometimes affects who they decide to deal with the transportation and other movements. Like a game with a huge map sometimes has the characters be faster to allow for easier travel around the map while smaller maps make it slower to have it feel bigger than it actually is or they can do what AC used to do and have an entire parkour system to keep your trips a bit more interesting.
So because the rpg maps are bigger and more open, the characters usually travel faster than the old games whose maps are smaller or more dense and the parkour systems are kind of the whole point.
What about the Droid attack on the wookies?
Thanks for the comparison!
Did you account for the potential change in climbing speed with the spacing of ledges?
I feel like a lot of it may have came down to the fact the parkour system may have picked slower animations and vantage points due to their closeness.
For example, when it came down to buildings with a lot of windows and seams: less efficient leaps were made compared to more smooth walls.
Unfortunately it’s hard to make good comparisons due to how different all of the buildings are in each game. Trying to find similar buildings in all games is like where’s Waldo but 100x harder.
@@seva7500 fair. Probably easier to just use the building that is most commonly found anyway, as that would be the building climbing speed that you will have to deal with most of the time anyway.
Games like Origins have bigger buildings, but only in very specific places, so I’d imagine how that isn’t really a good indicator of anything.
AC 3 just got that fire, the animation, the details, the lighting, scenery, and movement idk why but playing as Connor feels so god deym good and fluent, the game just so much ahead of its time. Only Unity can beat the game in term of parkour, and omg I wish they made a second game for Connor so much his story is so unfinished, he was young and bold, only fighting for the things he believed in, for freedom, but in the end its so bitter sweet to see everything he works for turn to ashed, but its so much fitting for the setting of AC3, there are no black and white, and see him finally understand that and grew as a character after everything that he lost, just so he can help desmond save the world in the future is so touching. The Templar in this game is portrayed so good that you can actually side with their ideas, that level of antagonist is what make the story peaked. Sadly most of Connor character is hidden behind side story, I wish we can get a second game for him so we can actually see the wise and older version of Connor Kenway.
For me the most realistic is AC1 and AC Unity when it comes to scaling
I feel like Arno is tricky to measure.
Unity has so many weird subtle tricks to its parkour that can change your speed
I mean all buildings have different grabbing points so this videos is mostly pointless
Yep.
Just appreciate his efforts. And he took the time to find 'similar' buildings so it's at least close to reality
@@Engille967 Of course! I've always appreciated his content! 🙏
@@Engille967 I do, and I love these kinds of videos. Just saying
Dude mad respect for putting in this much effort for the measurements
My pleasure
I think Ladders can every Assassins Creed Protagonist climb in the same Time! 👍
I find almost every single playable assassin wiggles their butts while climbing ladders
people got bored at AC, so developers decided to make assassin faster
make evolution of Hidden Blade!
one factor is left out in here, the type of building, there are buildings that allow fast climbing and slow climbing, if you played the games you'll get where i'm coming from. In ac3, ac4 and rogue, sometimes your character would do a climbing leap that somewhat staggers him and makes him climb slower than usual because the ledges are a bit far apart, there are specific buildings in ac rogue where you can climb in under 3-4 seconds lol
Doesn’t Arno climb way faster if you use the dynamic parkour options that were in Unity? Like diagonal climbing and using wall ejects and side-leaps and stuff… or whatever they’re called
I think what would've been a better and more effective way was to find an actual historic building of some kind throughout the games. Find out how tall they are and start climbing. To find the speed, you'd plug in this equation.
Speed = Distance (in this case, height) / Time of climbing.
If you do this, it would've been quite easy to figure out who's the fastest climber throughout all of the games.
Now for a competition on which one can stand still and jump directly to a beam above them.
Ezio
Altair, Ezio, edward, connor, shay can do it i think. You just hold high profile and press jump or leg button in ac1 and ezio games
@@bah2vi All games, up to Unity, can perform a standing jump.
@@MirrorsEdgeGamer01 Yeah. I wonder why Unity didn't add the feature though
@@bah2vi Yeah. Also, in the video, I didn’t see the Parkour up (climb leap) being used either.
When I saw the title of your video, i immediately thought of the grappling hook of Evie and Jacob Frye.
Why are the protagonist getting slower? Because they tried to make it more realistic
Just wanted to say you did a great job making this video, your hard work is appreciated
Thankyou😍
Yeah, the Protagonists of the new games are faster, but look at these climbing animations, the new characters jump over 3 meters at a fckin wall, good old Parkour will always be the best
Ahh... I miss those days when Ezio scaled buildings with his hookblade, yet somehow climbing felt intuitive and challenging at the same time, unlike Syndicate's cheap Gravity defying grappling hook.
Ac unity calculation is wrong
If you go down hypotenus is 17 adjacent Is 5 so u needed to find vertical which is 16 not 12
Note: well don't roast me it's just my comment 🤗
16, not 13
In simpler terms Arno took longer because he had to climb the extra window at the end so it wasn’t fair
Nerd
A bit late but i think something that needs to be pointed out is how complex the building is. I feel like arno would climb faster if the building design looks like the one in AC1. But overall these are such good results
We all know Arno Connor and jacob are fastest
But theyre at final output
@@cutecell2798 that because in Unity and Syndicate, those game have a lot more sophisticated parkour mechanic. You can actually optimized your ascend.
In those games, you can side eject to higher ledge (on the above)
@@Max128ping unity and syndicate dont have more sophisticated climbing mechanics. They are more streamlined and offer less control that the older games, in unity and syndicate you press two buttons and the game will do what it wants.
Actually in Syndicate if you press R once in PC, the game move the characters for you. @@shutit8949
The music in this video slaps 🔥
This is seriously the most unaccurate video I've seen related to this
Great video! I appreciate the effort!
Parkour has been more simplified and made faster in rpg series. So with grapppling hook, Frye twins are fastest and without our malaka misthios is fastest. Eivor is a bit slow climber
@Altaïr's Shadow two even lol
Connor: hold my eagle skill
Not sure why Connor was as slow as he was, he literally spent his whole childhood and teenage years climbing trees to hunt