I feel like there's one bit, that got completely unexplored within the game: what drives Max and her choices between her going into a photograph and awakening in a new world she just created? The only thing we got acknowledged is when Max instructed Chloe to drag herself away by any means and that she won't remember saying this until some moment in few hours. I suppose it works just like in Butterfly Effect with exception, that original Max doesn't have any blocked out memories. I guess, she've seen the movie and just went with it being the case. And think about temporary Max who was going to catch Nathan on the party and then the next moment Chloe is dragging you away. While probably saying things like: "Relax, will you? YOU told me to do that. Damn, I hope real Max gets to me sooner than later.."
Welcome back :D, life is strange is alright for me though, my main concern is the story, mainly, the blue hair girl, she is very toxic yet the game constantly tries to get them together, if it had a better arch where she grew to trust her friend and be warmer and kinder then it would have made her more interesting, again my opinion though, i liked how they used her powers though, was very creative
@@NewSorpigal1 good points however: 1- they dont get over this in 2 minutes, she brings it up on other dialogues too, she also says how she could have tried reaching her however she didnt even try reaching max herself, as we see in the prequels diary, she misses her but didnt reach out. 2- in that conversation in the room, when the dad comes and finds out that chloe has been smoking, she blames max, even if she is hididng or not, if max doesnt lie, saying that she gave it, then chloe blames her and gets angry, in any sceneario this is a sign of a bad friend, no excuses on putting a friend through that. 3- her apologizing makes it fine, in the scene you can see her mother telling her something which she wanted to avoid, so i guess she was mad at that bit and max was close so she blamed her a bit, the phone call i dont have mutch of a problem since she also apologized, also, in this scene she references max for leaving her, so again, not 2 minutes. 4- here you are arguing if the players choose to be ruthless, but what if they dont, what if they try to comfort her, well the one i got is that she blames her actual father for dying and her mother for causing her death, and even then, i understand why she would blame her mother, but its been years, she is what 19? she is old thats for sure, so her keep blaming on her mother or father is childish, immature, she has a point but she should have gotten that fixed, i dont know if they went to a therapist, but if they didnt that would explain it, the game does a very good job at not defending chloe, most people hated chloe here because the game put no effort to defend chloe, flashbacks should have been introduced, maybe some crying scenes from chloe, the mother keep blaming on herself, let us see that, actions need to be shown, players wont belive if they just listen the narration, the game put no effort so players obiously would think of her as toxic, anyone would, that would be normal, only after really trying to see her point would you understand why she behaves like that, but the game putting no effort makes it the games fault, not the player. 5- she wants revenge, and this revenge clouded her emotions, she should have listened to max better when she knows she can time travel, this segment was you fighting chloes emotions however it wasnt done right, it was ok but it didnt feel like i am fighting her emotions, it felt like me talking her down of her own stupidity. 6- whats ironic is someone who sees the POV of a flawed character yet fails to see the POV of real people, you fail to see the popular opinion and why the game didnt make an impact to them, you blame them instead of trying to see why they say what they say, you think of them as toxic when in reality, you are being toxic here, in a way, we are the chloe's while you are us, i wont lie i didnt bother sympathising with chloe and you know why? because i hate her, in almost every occasion she is spoiled, in almost every occasion she is rude for no reason, and i am supposed to like her? remember that she stole the funds from disabled people, she doesnt bother talking to dave or her mother and while sure dave has problems, it is still her father, chloe abuses max's power even after knowing what bad things it causes to her, she is rude to her caring mother even after years of the accident, and again, i am supposed to like her and sympathise with her? the game fails to defend chloe, in fact, it doesnt even try or bother, the developers dont care about her, the sequel and prequel both destroy the character more than helping it, and yet we are the toxic people when both the game and the devs dont try and redeem the character. .It seems more like the poeple of LiS are just woke people ready to defend anyone and just like meh stories to me, they ignore the red flags as long as there are rainbow flags in their meal. ., of course, all that is a joke (. . = joke), your 6th point is you bashing at us so i did the same, yeah it isnt good making a full point just bashing at the other peoples opinions now is it? People have different life problems and experiences so of couse they will view this differently, so it is the games responsibility to make the, understand chloes POV, not the players responsibility, if the game doesnt do this then of couse its going to attract negative views from people not understnading her. 7- we see who the real chloe is multiple times is true, the problem is we see her real self be the same, in the beginning of the prequel, chloe is an angsty teenager, in the begining of life is strange, she is an angsty teenager, in the after well we dont see her but is safe to assume she is an angsty adult now, she doesnt develop much, she might become a bit more caring here and there but not a noticable character arc is built, she is the same everytime which leaves the story dry, the emotions are not carried throughout the story all that well too, on one scene, they kiss and have a relationship, in another, they are fighting over a small thing, there are moments yes, but not that many. 8- angel is overstretching it a bit, more like decent person, the problem is that even when max was nice to her, she is the same througout the story, not caring and angry against everything EXCEPT right on the very end, when you choose to sacrifice everything to save her, her accepting that she needs to die is what i needed, her accepting the sacrifce that she needs to die to save everyone, if there was more of that chloe, this game would have way less chloe haters, the game also needed to show the POV of chloe more, you cant expect the player to understand everything, if you want the player to get the character you have to make an effort to make them understand why they do this, why they are like this, if they need to investigate then you either failed or want to keep it hidden. I'm sorry for the multiple wall of text reply but I really can't stand Chloe-haters-haters that call us toxic. She's literally an ok person that dresses scary to keep people out because of her past drama that the game fails to make the player emphasize with, though some do, miraculously, her heart can't deal with the drama of posers and ACTUALLY toxic people that claim to be friends but aren't really, so instead she plays safe and is mad at everyone who is at her sight, quite clever to be honest. Her dad dying and Max ghosting definitely contributed to this though these things happening within a week only escalated this even further, making her lose hope and barely grasping to humanity until rachel came and cut the last hanging thread. And honestly she's right to be this way, specially with no theraphy sessions because god forbid you are left alone with your dark thoughts, you would do something worse. Blue hair, tattoos and punk clothes don't make someone toxic, it is their behaviour, actions and character arc that determines this, also don't you dare say that punk style is lame and toxic, though the 3D models dont do the theme justice, maybe a comic style would fit this franchise better, something like the bendy art style or the walking dead, food for thoughts. Nathan Prescott? Toxic! Jefferson? Good at the beginning, unexpenctly Toxic at the end! Victoria Chase? You guessed it..toxic! David Madsen? Toxic at firsrt! but great at the end. Heck even Joyce is a bit toxic, like how dare she not understand an angsty teen, because obvioulsy she isnt doing other important things like working to provide food and pay the bills, thats creepy daves part, not even her every day breakfast beats the fact that she cant understand a teenager or her emo phase, the fact that she sided with the man she dearly loves 😠. Max's tool - i mean Warren was also toxic too, like leave max alone, though thanks for risking youself, thats what your puspose was for anyways. But Chloe? NOPE, because clearly all the red gets cancelled through the blue in her hair, thats how maths works anyways. All the jokes aside if you liked the game then great, but its not my cup of tea, though i like LiS 2, it had a realism taste, and action, i also like how they do the powers here but the story really needs to be upscaled at least for me.
@@NewSorpigal1 all that and you end it with haters are going to hate? Really? Sorry for your loss, makes sense why you sympathise with this game and with Chloe, look at a games stand point, this is what I think, but I don't want to make you feel bad about a game that must have been so impactful to you, if you love it, don't let someone else's opinion ruin it, as a story perspective this I what I think, the game should have made me change this perception but it didn't, and without people talking about these things, the game cannot improve, people that talk about negative aspects about a game are very important because otherwise the game won't arrive to it's perfection, we all make mistakes and tackling aspects like these is very personal and needs opinions of multiple people to make it perfect or close to perfect, telling them you are toxic or shutting them up because they complain about a character you liked won't help the game, people said that Chloe was toxic, but what people should have asked is why, when they got that they should have realised that they don't get Chloe at all, not her emotions or past selves so let's do that in the prequel or sequel, let's add scenes that show this, flashbacks, in fact they added a diary to help with this but it didn't help much, complaining without a reason is one thing, complaining with a reason is another, and as a game developer you need to understand these reasonings to make the next game great, otherwise the quality will worsen until even the side that supports you no longer likes the things you produce, for LiS2, I liked the new approach of the side character having powers, is an interesting ideas and how you behave impacts them, this idea is soo interesting on its own, just how they did this was a flop, it wasn't bad but it wasn't perfect, I liked the new ideas implemented in that game, also point 6 IS just baseless nonsense, some yeah were points but the whole insult thing is a joke from your haters are toxic thing, your point 6 was calling us toxic, I want to have that attack of a point too
@@NewSorpigal1 for ideas, the situation where max was talking down Chloe, that scene could have used a more chaotic background to show what was Chloe feeling, you choose wrong and it gets more chaotic, you choose right, and it gets less calm, a visual representation of what Chloe is feeling, flashbacks to show the audience why Chloe feels or behaves like how she behaves, make Chloe expression more sad when max ignores her, make a background theme like a sad piano sound to tell the player you made Chloe sad or something like this, this are just quick ideas but there are more than could have made some of the scenes more impactful
It's lowkey underrated but it's PEAK
I feel like there's one bit, that got completely unexplored within the game: what drives Max and her choices between her going into a photograph and awakening in a new world she just created?
The only thing we got acknowledged is when Max instructed Chloe to drag herself away by any means and that she won't remember saying this until some moment in few hours. I suppose it works just like in Butterfly Effect with exception, that original Max doesn't have any blocked out memories. I guess, she've seen the movie and just went with it being the case.
And think about temporary Max who was going to catch Nathan on the party and then the next moment Chloe is dragging you away. While probably saying things like: "Relax, will you? YOU told me to do that. Damn, I hope real Max gets to me sooner than later.."
Stopped watching the video 15 seconds in because I was already hooked and didn't want spoilers. c:
Hope you enjoy the game!
Great video!
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Welcome back :D, life is strange is alright for me though, my main concern is the story, mainly, the blue hair girl, she is very toxic yet the game constantly tries to get them together, if it had a better arch where she grew to trust her friend and be warmer and kinder then it would have made her more interesting, again my opinion though, i liked how they used her powers though, was very creative
@@NewSorpigal1 good points however:
1- they dont get over this in 2 minutes, she brings it up on other dialogues too, she also says how she could have tried reaching her however she didnt even try reaching max herself, as we see in the prequels diary, she misses her but didnt reach out.
2- in that conversation in the room, when the dad comes and finds out that chloe has been smoking, she blames max, even if she is hididng or not, if max doesnt lie, saying that she gave it, then chloe blames her and gets angry, in any sceneario this is a sign of a bad friend, no excuses on putting a friend through that.
3- her apologizing makes it fine, in the scene you can see her mother telling her something which she wanted to avoid, so i guess she was mad at that bit and max was close so she blamed her a bit, the phone call i dont have mutch of a problem since she also apologized, also, in this scene she references max for leaving her, so again, not 2 minutes.
4- here you are arguing if the players choose to be ruthless, but what if they dont, what if they try to comfort her, well the one i got is that she blames her actual father for dying and her mother for causing her death, and even then, i understand why she would blame her mother, but its been years, she is what 19? she is old thats for sure, so her keep blaming on her mother or father is childish, immature, she has a point but she should have gotten that fixed, i dont know if they went to a therapist, but if they didnt that would explain it, the game does a very good job at not defending chloe, most people hated chloe here because the game put no effort to defend chloe, flashbacks should have been introduced, maybe some crying scenes from chloe, the mother keep blaming on herself, let us see that, actions need to be shown, players wont belive if they just listen the narration, the game put no effort so players obiously would think of her as toxic, anyone would, that would be normal, only after really trying to see her point would you understand why she behaves like that, but the game putting no effort makes it the games fault, not the player.
5- she wants revenge, and this revenge clouded her emotions, she should have listened to max better when she knows she can time travel, this segment was you fighting chloes emotions however it wasnt done right, it was ok but it didnt feel like i am fighting her emotions, it felt like me talking her down of her own stupidity.
6- whats ironic is someone who sees the POV of a flawed character yet fails to see the POV of real people, you fail to see the popular opinion and why the game didnt make an impact to them, you blame them instead of trying to see why they say what they say, you think of them as toxic when in reality, you are being toxic here, in a way, we are the chloe's while you are us, i wont lie i didnt bother sympathising with chloe and you know why? because i hate her, in almost every occasion she is spoiled, in almost every occasion she is rude for no reason, and i am supposed to like her? remember that she stole the funds from disabled people, she doesnt bother talking to dave or her mother and while sure dave has problems, it is still her father, chloe abuses max's power even after knowing what bad things it causes to her, she is rude to her caring mother even after years of the accident, and again, i am supposed to like her and sympathise with her? the game fails to defend chloe, in fact, it doesnt even try or bother, the developers dont care about her, the sequel and prequel both destroy the character more than helping it, and yet we are the toxic people when both the game and the devs dont try and redeem the character. .It seems more like the poeple of LiS are just woke people ready to defend anyone and just like meh stories to me, they ignore the red flags as long as there are rainbow flags in their meal. ., of course, all that is a joke (. . = joke), your 6th point is you bashing at us so i did the same, yeah it isnt good making a full point just bashing at the other peoples opinions now is it? People have different life problems and experiences so of couse they will view this differently, so it is the games responsibility to make the, understand chloes POV, not the players responsibility, if the game doesnt do this then of couse its going to attract negative views from people not understnading her.
7- we see who the real chloe is multiple times is true, the problem is we see her real self be the same, in the beginning of the prequel, chloe is an angsty teenager, in the begining of life is strange, she is an angsty teenager, in the after well we dont see her but is safe to assume she is an angsty adult now, she doesnt develop much, she might become a bit more caring here and there but not a noticable character arc is built, she is the same everytime which leaves the story dry, the emotions are not carried throughout the story all that well too, on one scene, they kiss and have a relationship, in another, they are fighting over a small thing, there are moments yes, but not that many.
8- angel is overstretching it a bit, more like decent person, the problem is that even when max was nice to her, she is the same througout the story, not caring and angry against everything EXCEPT right on the very end, when you choose to sacrifice everything to save her, her accepting that she needs to die is what i needed, her accepting the sacrifce that she needs to die to save everyone, if there was more of that chloe, this game would have way less chloe haters, the game also needed to show the POV of chloe more, you cant expect the player to understand everything, if you want the player to get the character you have to make an effort to make them understand why they do this, why they are like this, if they need to investigate then you either failed or want to keep it hidden.
I'm sorry for the multiple wall of text reply but I really can't stand Chloe-haters-haters that call us toxic. She's literally an ok person that dresses scary to keep people out because of her past drama that the game fails to make the player emphasize with, though some do, miraculously, her heart can't deal with the drama of posers and ACTUALLY toxic people that claim to be friends but aren't really, so instead she plays safe and is mad at everyone who is at her sight, quite clever to be honest. Her dad dying and Max ghosting definitely contributed to this though these things happening within a week only escalated this even further, making her lose hope and barely grasping to humanity until rachel came and cut the last hanging thread. And honestly she's right to be this way, specially with no theraphy sessions because god forbid you are left alone with your dark thoughts, you would do something worse. Blue hair, tattoos and punk clothes don't make someone toxic, it is their behaviour, actions and character arc that determines this, also don't you dare say that punk style is lame and toxic, though the 3D models dont do the theme justice, maybe a comic style would fit this franchise better, something like the bendy art style or the walking dead, food for thoughts.
Nathan Prescott? Toxic!
Jefferson? Good at the beginning, unexpenctly Toxic at the end!
Victoria Chase? You guessed it..toxic!
David Madsen? Toxic at firsrt! but great at the end.
Heck even Joyce is a bit toxic, like how dare she not understand an angsty teen, because obvioulsy she isnt doing other important things like working to provide food and pay the bills, thats creepy daves part, not even her every day breakfast beats the fact that she cant understand a teenager or her emo phase, the fact that she sided with the man she dearly loves 😠. Max's tool - i mean Warren was also toxic too, like leave max alone, though thanks for risking youself, thats what your puspose was for anyways. But Chloe? NOPE, because clearly all the red gets cancelled through the blue in her hair, thats how maths works anyways.
All the jokes aside if you liked the game then great, but its not my cup of tea, though i like LiS 2, it had a realism taste, and action, i also like how they do the powers here but the story really needs to be upscaled at least for me.
@@NewSorpigal1 all that and you end it with haters are going to hate? Really? Sorry for your loss, makes sense why you sympathise with this game and with Chloe, look at a games stand point, this is what I think, but I don't want to make you feel bad about a game that must have been so impactful to you, if you love it, don't let someone else's opinion ruin it, as a story perspective this I what I think, the game should have made me change this perception but it didn't, and without people talking about these things, the game cannot improve, people that talk about negative aspects about a game are very important because otherwise the game won't arrive to it's perfection, we all make mistakes and tackling aspects like these is very personal and needs opinions of multiple people to make it perfect or close to perfect, telling them you are toxic or shutting them up because they complain about a character you liked won't help the game, people said that Chloe was toxic, but what people should have asked is why, when they got that they should have realised that they don't get Chloe at all, not her emotions or past selves so let's do that in the prequel or sequel, let's add scenes that show this, flashbacks, in fact they added a diary to help with this but it didn't help much, complaining without a reason is one thing, complaining with a reason is another, and as a game developer you need to understand these reasonings to make the next game great, otherwise the quality will worsen until even the side that supports you no longer likes the things you produce, for LiS2, I liked the new approach of the side character having powers, is an interesting ideas and how you behave impacts them, this idea is soo interesting on its own, just how they did this was a flop, it wasn't bad but it wasn't perfect, I liked the new ideas implemented in that game, also point 6 IS just baseless nonsense, some yeah were points but the whole insult thing is a joke from your haters are toxic thing, your point 6 was calling us toxic, I want to have that attack of a point too
@@NewSorpigal1 for ideas, the situation where max was talking down Chloe, that scene could have used a more chaotic background to show what was Chloe feeling, you choose wrong and it gets more chaotic, you choose right, and it gets less calm, a visual representation of what Chloe is feeling, flashbacks to show the audience why Chloe feels or behaves like how she behaves, make Chloe expression more sad when max ignores her, make a background theme like a sad piano sound to tell the player you made Chloe sad or something like this, this are just quick ideas but there are more than could have made some of the scenes more impactful
Gonna have to play this now...
really great vid man. Keep it up!
Ngl. Life is strange is the definitive game if you want to be manipulated
Definitely!