@@tinyrhysherbert7537it’s heavily implied that Michael and and Trevor made use of their military training and Franklin most likely hit up ammunition like Michael suggested cause of his wild shot. The 3 of them aren’t regular dudes with guns especially when you consider the extra resources they get to work with.
A shame how gangs played little role in the GTA V story. no gang warfare, no territories, no business/assets. just showing up in a few missions and thats all. missed opporunity. GTA IV had TLAD DLC and some gang missions and GTA SA had gang warfare/territories, thats why I like those 2 games very much
Why the gangs took little part in GTAV is due to the reason law enforcement got stronger over time and many gang leaders either were killed, or imprisoned. But yeah, it'd be nice to get some errand missions from the turf like intimidating other gangs(beating the shit out of them), stealing, collecting your payments from the vicinity on behalf of the gang, making deals, assasinating other gang members, kidnapping and delivery missions as Franklin, but only before moving into the new flat in Rockford hills, given by Lester after doing some missions for him
But unfortunately, those times pc's werent developed enough, you know, Im talking about 2013. Also, they had not enough financial support, additionally they were dealing with RDR2 at the same time. So, we cant say anything
@@YourAverageKurdishDudeOfficialsadly we'll never know it is said that someone in Cockstar had beef with the company or the voice actor had issues everything is possible i know i shouldn't be playing TLAD because knowing what happened to John 5 years later just makes me feel sad and confused but i prefer GTA 4 and EFLC knowing that playing as Johnny is something i really enjoy especially riding bikes since he's a biker but The Lost MC are no more in gta 5 they may still be active but they're not the same like their previous members in Liberty City
We all know damn well if Trevor met Johnny from GTA 4 well the second a Trevor shouts a little well Johnny would've stomped Trevors teeth out, pissed on the corps then likely would kill Ron and Wade
Johnny went back to Ashley and turned to smoking meth again, you can see by gta5 the man's a shadow of his former self. Trevor is still crazy enough to kill Gta4 Klebitz but it woule be a close fight
At first I was kind of sad that Groove Street disappeared but the Ballas are still around. Then I realized that they made it out while the Ballas are still in the cycle.
Ballas aren't the most powerful gang, also Families own the Neighborhoods of Strawberry, Chamberlain Hills, and a part of Davis, more territory than the Ballas, who only own the majority of Davis, and South Rancho. The Aztecas own Northern Rancho, but most of their criminal operations take place in Blaine County. The East Asian gang in Little Seoul is the Kkangpae/Korean Mob, not the Triads. The Lost have 2 separate chapters in Southern San Andreas, the Los Santos Chapter, in East Vinewood, and the Blaine County Chapter in Stab City, the Blaine chapter is majorly wiped out by Trevor, but still retain a small presence. All the information on the Vagos was more or less correct, a part from the mistake that they own South Rancho, which is actually Ballas turf.
Sorry bro but Triads share the same spot than the Kkangpae, I know that theres written South Rancho on the Ballas clothes but they can only spawn rarely in South West Rancho, they are mostly in North West Rancho
Its confirmed that GTA 5 and San Andreas are not of the same timeline. Grove Street probably retired from gang life since other rivals are gone and done, and went their seperate ways.
@@TheBlueboy7777It's not the same timeline, my guy. GTA IV, GTA V, and GTA Online never bring up any events from GTA VC to GTA III. You also gotta remember that the maps for IV's Liberty City and V's San Andreas are different from their past counterparts.
I am starting to think the lore of GTA5 is one where CJ never returned to Las Santos after becoming a real estate developer in San Fierro. It seems the state of Los Santos in Gta5 is as things were in GTASA after CJ is exhiled.
The gangs we worked for formally either actively or in association of have either gotten weaker and lost power or straight up eradicated or became our enemies by the events of GTA 5
@@Bushmasterghillie I don't think that's what it means, as Franklin notes in his conversation with Jimmy "it's not the 90s anymore" which can mean that some of the members of these groups moved on with their lives outside of the gang and other people took their place.
The Families in GTA V never betray Franklin or Lamar, the only one who attempted to was Stretch, but he is killed by Micheal if you pick Option C/Deathwish/The Third Way option, which is the canon of GTA V.
I'm going to assume that much like the successful gangster rappers of the 90s, Grove Street Families became CEOs or retired from the gangster life and had enough money to live comfortably in the suburbs.
In GTA online you used to be able to go to that same staircase where the triads we’re and I’d always fuck em up but now no matter what time of day they aren’t there and aren’t really in the Chinatown area anymore (at least for me). But they still come after you in missions and still own the casino, so my theory is, they moved back to vice city to do some expanding to the business or somethin and we’ll see them in GTA 6. But for now they left some people in charge of the casino and other businesses in GTA online los santos. Idk I fucks wit little details like that
Honestly if the Ballas took over Grove Street then it's possible what happened time after GTA San Andreas 1) Ballas slowly started rebuilding and making deals with the LSPD 2) More and more families was being killed everyday or purposely arrested by LSPD 3) Chances are Cj and Sweet was still recovering after the events of GTA SA so sadly its likely they got killed either by Ballas or LSPD for killing Tenpeny 4) Caesar either got arrested or killed by Ballas, Cops or possibly Vagos for being a possible "Traitor" 5) Cj's sister likely moved and left LS behind 6) Grove Street is fully Balla owned
There’s three different universes. The top down, 3d, and hd universes. Just because grove street in gta 5 is pretty much ballas territory doesn’t mean the grove in the 3d universe fell. I mean cj is a millionaire gangsta killer he can def hood his power
I don't think HD Universe Families ever fell. They've got like a ton of territory compared to Ballas. If there's anyone to blame for The Families nearly falling apart, it's Stretch XD.
Vagos are in business with Martin Madrazo and Aztecas are in arms trade business with Guzman from the Cartel (until Trevor takes over). I would say Vagos are the most powerful and biggest in size, Aztecas are smaller but make up for it with their wide range of connections and Ballas are up and coming and diversifying their money making schemes whereas CGF is stuck ih the 90s hanging out on the corner and selling dime bags. This is why Gerald in GTA Online gives you missions to rob other drug dealers hecsuse CGF isnt connected the way the other groups are
Couple things to write about: 12:06 you state all the OG gang members are dead, however this isn't really true. Angus (if you played TLaD, Angus Martin is the guy in the wheelchair) is still alive. I would've liked to see more gangs talked about, like the Salvadorian gang in Los Santos, the Angels of Death, and maybe some of the mafias from GTA 4 like the Pegorinos.
Angus isn't the only one either devs also confirmed tho u can shoot Terry and Clay off their bikes terry is the only one who's death is cannon meaning since the lost disbanded in 4 leaving Angus on his own n no longer a member and restarting the club in 5 that make clay the last n only real member from 4 they said even if u kill clay he's still alive cannonly somehow also if u steal random event shit like meth the Los Santos chapter pres al Carter will message u online in game about the drugs meaning clay most likely went to their chapter or took over the blaine county one
Personally I don't know if the Triads from San Andreas and IV are the same from 5 (and this might be an enourmous stretch/theory from my part), but the Triads in San Fierro and Liberty City speak Cantonese dialect (therefore Triads from Hong Kong or Guangdong region) while GTA V's Triads speak Mandarin or Standard Chinese (so could be Northern Region Triads or even Taiwanese).
Frank was right tho this aint 90's this era is different and sweet finally gave up grove street famile and liven peace in san fierro with kendle and cesar!! Cj is now a CEO! Running many business with wuzee~ his best pal!
Exactly!! The only one that would probably stay is Sweet but even with the Families back on top and in control, he could pretty much leave leadership to someone else and take off with CJ and Kendl to actually live a better life
What in tarnation is CJ wearing? Why in the Sam Hell is he dressed like he and A Pimp Named Slickback are the leaders of the GSF and the Ballas respectively?
Yeah in mission home coming where sweet got released from jail, he said that he had casino and dealership in San fierro and venturas and also said to leave the neighborhood but sweet didn't agree with him and said that he has to take care of gang, after the ending, sweet most probably got killed due to gang wars and cj along with ceaser and kendl left los Santos abandoning the gang
@@truegameryt9720Thats exactly what I think would happen, if both universes mixed together. With everything that CJ had going on, no way in hell would wanna stick around and deal with all that bullshit. The only issue would be Sweet but by the end of the game, Sweet and CJ pretty much made up and got past everything that happened between them so he’d probably go along with CJ too 🤷♂️ With the leadership gone and the Johnson brothers not holding much influence, the Ballas would definitely take advantage of it. The thing that would probably save the Families from losing more was that Temple and Seville made up and made the Families still whole in some way
@@LexDiamond178 Yeah, however both of the universes are different and rockstar likes to give us older references and Easter eggs. So most probably it still ain't confirmed. Maybe in 3D universe, Families and Aztecas came to a treaty and took over all of the LS and the leadership remained under Ceaser and Sweet or maybe big bear took over as a successor.
For the people who didnt know well enough there are 3 different universes in GTA series The first is 2D Universe The games set in this are GTA 1 GTA London GTA 2 The 2nd is 3D Universe The games set is GTA 3 GTA Vice City GTA San Andreas GTA Liberty City Stories GTA Vice City Stories The 3rd is HD Universe The games set in this GTA 4 (main location Liberty City) GTA 5 (Los Santos, San Andreas ) Probably GTA 6 (Vice City) - So no one considers the 2d gta games story not popular with masses - Whatever happened in 3D Universe wont affect HD one - Same goes for HD no affect on 3D and even somehow with multiverse shit like marvel and still have little to no effect because 3d story took in past like 90s and all while HD stories starts with 2004 and majorly from 2008 .
Even if CJ did exist in the HD universe, Franklin was right in saying that it’s not the 80s-90s anymore. No way in hell would any of them be around in Los Santos in modern times. CJ would be living large and in different industries. Sweet would probably be either along with CJ or dead from still banging. Kendl and Cesar would probably be in San Fierro with the garage and real estate stuff. Everyone else would be gone and forgotten about by the time GTA V happened, so I don’t find it weird or sad that Grove Street Families went away when nearly everyone in the leadership either went to do other stuff (CJ, Sweet maybe), was killed (Smoke, Ryder), or left the gang beforehand (B Dup, Big Bear although he does try and get clean)
CJ (or his HD analogue) likely never got 100% control of los santos in canon and what he left behind eventually likely fell to petty beef between the grove families. The ballas, aztecas, and vagos probably took advantage of the situation leading to the gang placements we have today.
4:59 considering that cesar is friends with cj, probably cesar's gang (wich also wears vagos/aztecas outfits) make peace with groove street gang of probably able to hang out of their main territory without issues with the families wich would in a way explain being able to still do the lowrider competition xD (specially as cj helped cesar reclaim their home street from the enemy aztecas/vagos)
That is the Vice City Bikers MC,Big Mitch Baker's gang,Angels of Death weren't created until gta 4,but according to their website in Gta 4 they were active in the south of east coast,where Leonida and Vice City are located
Not fully destroyed. Sandy shores chapter got wiped out. Still got the LS and Paleto chapters. With Trevor going Vinewood in 2013 there's no one to rival them in blaine county other than the Online Player and the Vagos. Aztecas still haven't bounced back from Trevor wiping them out save for their hood in LS. Online player only keep the gangs around for the market competition as without the gangs they are the only one dealing so there's no incentive to have the best product in LS. Which the Online player prefers to be on top as the best criminal in LS.
Gta Online character: They're all my bitches even Madrazo's goons. I own this city they just live in it. Lets see them get a tank, jet, or flying bike and take it to a gunfight.
In gta 4 we saw one of poster where a wealthy mafia boss or ceo was in there in gta 4 nd he looks like cj nd jn gta 5 Franklin also said that "they might be wealthy ceo nd so" So ig rockstat hinted us that cj do became an wealthy ceo nd yeah mafia boss too
You forgot avout Angus from the Lost MC in TLAD. He's the only character from the Lost MC in TLAD that's still alive (as of when we last heard of him).
Well, realistically, only gang in Los Santos besides the Aztekas since you need a cheat or something to be able to conquer all territories. I think there's a way to get the Aztekas' territory by via a certain mission near the end. (It's not that theirs again until after this mission, but either the Ballas' or Vagos'.) Kind of sucks you need to do this, because I wanted to expand the homies' range to San Fierro and Las Venturas, preferably around the Casino and CJ's San Fierro ventures. It'd make sense for there to be a Grove Street presence in both locations.
People think the ballas in gta San Andreas are the same ones in GTA V 🤦♂️ the ballas in the 3D universe lost all their territories after the events of gta San Andreas and most likely stopped existing around the events of GTA LCS meanwhile in GTA V the ballas are more powerful hence why they own more territory than the families
100% Grove street in San Andreas isn't canon, CJ never really cared for the Gang since he knew it keeps people down being a gangbanger, so canonically he did the least amount necessary to finish the story and then fucked off with Madd Dogg
Because Frank isn't a gang member after the Jewel store job. Technically the Online character owns LS and Blaine county. After all you can own property in all areas of the map and while they'll be attacked the Online character has tanks, jets, jetpacks, flying cars, flying bikes, a submarine, a heavily weaponized semi, a heavily armored rv, a truck with a missile launcher, drone launcher, scanner, and can store a flying bike, submarine cars, cars with jet engines attached, cars that can shoot missiles, heavily armed and armored cars, a missile truck, fire trucks, antiaircraft gun with flack cannons, a orbital strike launcher, a yacht, a flying mobile fortress, penthouse, office in the tallest building, two military grade bunkers, the most popular nightclub in LS, a penthouse, multiple properties, the biggest cargo, car, gun and drug empire in LS, a autoshop, chop shop, bounty hunting agency, celeb solutions agency, three experienced hackers in their pocket, is a walking arsenal, is also a great hacker, the largest fleet of cars, boats and aircraft, has ties to the government and military, Is literally immortal the best racer in Ls, has robbed everyone in LS and hasn't been caught by the LSPD. The online protag is the Kingpin of LS and is untouchable.
The ballas can’t be that powerful if they lost to 2 old thieves and a carjacker who became rich
Those 2 old thieves and carjacker all have special abilities and are able to wake back up in the hospital after being killed
@@dsmith5098 Canonically does not happen, so you're point is debatable.
@@tinyrhysherbert7537it’s heavily implied that Michael and and Trevor made use of their military training and Franklin most likely hit up ammunition like Michael suggested cause of his wild shot. The 3 of them aren’t regular dudes with guns especially when you consider the extra resources they get to work with.
@@JoeJoe-yn5lc Micheal never served in the military and Trevor only had air force pilot training
@@djordjesurtov3995 didn’t Trevor say that’s how they met?
Bro dressed up CJ like the riddler
😭😭
nigma indeed
The los santos riddler
Riddles you with bullets
Dressing like that raises your respect which is crazy cause you’re right lmao
Riddle me this Stretch Who wears a Suit & just Killed you
A shame how gangs played little role in the GTA V story. no gang warfare, no territories, no business/assets. just showing up in a few missions and thats all. missed opporunity. GTA IV had TLAD DLC and some gang missions and GTA SA had gang warfare/territories, thats why I like those 2 games very much
It’s because the game is a overhyped downgrade
I wish they put territories like in gta SA but only on franklins map. And you can do missions with lamar to take pieces of territory
Franklin should have way more missions imo
Why the gangs took little part in GTAV is due to the reason law enforcement got stronger over time and many gang leaders either were killed, or imprisoned. But yeah, it'd be nice to get some errand missions from the turf like intimidating other gangs(beating the shit out of them), stealing, collecting your payments from the vicinity on behalf of the gang, making deals, assasinating other gang members, kidnapping and delivery missions as Franklin, but only before moving into the new flat in Rockford hills, given by Lester after doing some missions for him
But unfortunately, those times pc's werent developed enough, you know, Im talking about 2013. Also, they had not enough financial support, additionally they were dealing with RDR2 at the same time.
So, we cant say anything
Lost mc in gta 5: 🤡
Lost mc in gta 4: 💀☠️
Sad what they did to the lost mc 😢
@@YourAverageKurdishDudeOfficialsadly we'll never know it is said that someone in Cockstar had beef with the company or the voice actor had issues everything is possible i know i shouldn't be playing TLAD because knowing what happened to John 5 years later just makes me feel sad and confused but i prefer GTA 4 and EFLC knowing that playing as Johnny is something i really enjoy especially riding bikes since he's a biker but The Lost MC are no more in gta 5 they may still be active but they're not the same like their previous members in Liberty City
We all know damn well if Trevor met Johnny from GTA 4 well the second a Trevor shouts a little well Johnny would've stomped Trevors teeth out, pissed on the corps then likely would kill Ron and Wade
@@Cat................. Trevor would have died if he went up against the entire clubhouse the 7 members would have instantly killed him
Johnny went back to Ashley and turned to smoking meth again, you can see by gta5 the man's a shadow of his former self. Trevor is still crazy enough to kill Gta4 Klebitz but it woule be a close fight
You can say that the triad is quite rich as they have a share in the Diamond Casino and huge influence in Liberty City.
Which is how triads operate in the real world, they tend to be behind the scenes as opposed to American street gangs
@@oscardighton8580Chinese people operate like this in general behind scenes and always in the shadows..
At first I was kind of sad that Groove Street disappeared but the Ballas are still around. Then I realized that they made it out while the Ballas are still in the cycle.
4:30 trevor claiming families made me spit my drink out😂😭
All of cj hard work all for nothing
whos ci
@@RealMakarovcarl johnson character in GTA San Andreas
Different universes, GSF probably still exists in the 3D Universe.
@@user-23g45jj6 carl johnsons initials aint ci
carl iohnson?
1:40 nahh the two npc got yeeted tf out
Bruh for real lol 😭🤣🤣
Holy shit 😂😂😂
They say: weeee
That’s just GTA 4 Graphics lmao
lost mc was a hell of a club in gta 4
They fell in love with the Mexican super meth
"Still have beef"
3:31 : A family member and Balla just talking
That wasn’t a families member that was a balla
3:07
Grove st member: hey cj man i like your threads 💯👍😄
CJ: whatever you say fool 😡🤬
Ballas aren't the most powerful gang, also Families own the Neighborhoods of Strawberry, Chamberlain Hills, and a part of Davis, more territory than the Ballas, who only own the majority of Davis, and South Rancho. The Aztecas own Northern Rancho, but most of their criminal operations take place in Blaine County. The East Asian gang in Little Seoul is the Kkangpae/Korean Mob, not the Triads. The Lost have 2 separate chapters in Southern San Andreas, the Los Santos Chapter, in East Vinewood, and the Blaine County Chapter in Stab City, the Blaine chapter is majorly wiped out by Trevor, but still retain a small presence. All the information on the Vagos was more or less correct, a part from the mistake that they own South Rancho, which is actually Ballas turf.
Lost also have operations at that diner near the military base too
@@draemcewen8620 Yeah, that too, I don’t think that’s an entirely separate chapter, but it is a hotspot/front for their criminal activities.
@@tinyrhysherbert7537 yeah, you can also see them in Paleto Bay sometimes near the motel and driving in that direction on the highway
Ballas is the strongest
Sorry bro but Triads share the same spot than the Kkangpae, I know that theres written South Rancho on the Ballas clothes but they can only spawn rarely in South West Rancho, they are mostly in North West Rancho
The Ballas still drive around in they're car but not in colors, they wear gray shirts
Its confirmed that GTA 5 and San Andreas are not of the same timeline.
Grove Street probably retired from gang life since other rivals are gone and done, and went their seperate ways.
Or become a organization crime family
No, its the same timeline and same universe! Its just that everybody grows up and move on😅
@@TheBlueboy7777It's not the same timeline, my guy. GTA IV, GTA V, and GTA Online never bring up any events from GTA VC to GTA III. You also gotta remember that the maps for IV's Liberty City and V's San Andreas are different from their past counterparts.
Different universes,so the Families are still good in the 3D universe
Sadly even in 2024 not everyone understood this, so we still have people who believe that CJ is Franklin's father lol
I am starting to think the lore of GTA5 is one where CJ never returned to Las Santos after becoming a real estate developer in San Fierro. It seems the state of Los Santos in Gta5 is as things were in GTASA after CJ is exhiled.
3D universe and HD are different and not connected at all except through Easter eggs. CJ doesn't exist in 4, 5 or any other hd game.
@@BygoneTthought you could find a billboard for his cjs agency in gta iv
No, he return and took over the hood the same way we did in the game. But by time everybody grows up and move on.
@@TheBlueboy7777 So you're refuting rockstar itself?
Trevor really down for the set
The gangs we worked for formally either actively or in association of have either gotten weaker and lost power or straight up eradicated or became our enemies by the events of GTA 5
They've gotten weaker 🗿
@@patricksandom5999
Thus making everything we done meaningless and redundant
@@Bushmasterghillie I don't think that's what it means, as Franklin notes in his conversation with Jimmy "it's not the 90s anymore" which can mean that some of the members of these groups moved on with their lives outside of the gang and other people took their place.
@@cursedhawkins1305
Not disputing anything you say friend but it still hits like a mf
@@Bushmasterghillie i think thats the point, like, in the end its all useless
Gta 5 families betrayal on franklin after communication with his own homies
The Families in GTA V never betray Franklin or Lamar, the only one who attempted to was Stretch, but he is killed by Micheal if you pick Option C/Deathwish/The Third Way option, which is the canon of GTA V.
I'm going to assume that much like the successful gangster rappers of the 90s, Grove Street Families became CEOs or retired from the gangster life and had enough money to live comfortably in the suburbs.
The Lost MC were goated in GTA IV
I remember years ago when this game came out the first thing I did was go to groove street and was horrified and what I saw 😂😂😂
the Families in GTA V are not the sames ones from GTA San Andreas
and same for the others gangs, differents universes.
Yeah
Same universe jimmy and Franklin have a conversation about CJ and the way families used to be before they split in factions
@@jackboyholla4002 its an easter egg bro, OG Loc also got a Star on Hollywood Bvd
@@jackboyholla4002 nah bro , rockstar confirmed multi times that the 3d universe is different than hd universe
@@jackboyholla4002 dude, correcting this f**ls will waste your time😂 they will never admit that everybody grows up and moves on in life.
In GTA online you used to be able to go to that same staircase where the triads we’re and I’d always fuck em up but now no matter what time of day they aren’t there and aren’t really in the Chinatown area anymore (at least for me). But they still come after you in missions and still own the casino, so my theory is, they moved back to vice city to do some expanding to the business or somethin and we’ll see them in GTA 6. But for now they left some people in charge of the casino and other businesses in GTA online los santos. Idk I fucks wit little details like that
Honestly if the Ballas took over Grove Street then it's possible what happened time after GTA San Andreas
1) Ballas slowly started rebuilding and making deals with the LSPD
2) More and more families was being killed everyday or purposely arrested by LSPD
3) Chances are Cj and Sweet was still recovering after the events of GTA SA so sadly its likely they got killed either by Ballas or LSPD for killing Tenpeny
4) Caesar either got arrested or killed by Ballas, Cops or possibly Vagos for being a possible "Traitor"
5) Cj's sister likely moved and left LS behind
6) Grove Street is fully Balla owned
Caesar was an Aztaka not vagos
Cj and his crew don't exist in gta v, they're from a separate time-line
There’s three different universes. The top down, 3d, and hd universes. Just because grove street in gta 5 is pretty much ballas territory doesn’t mean the grove in the 3d universe fell. I mean cj is a millionaire gangsta killer he can def hood his power
I don't think HD Universe Families ever fell. They've got like a ton of territory compared to Ballas. If there's anyone to blame for The Families nearly falling apart, it's Stretch XD.
@@jj_is_ponytaku I’ve never seen them tho I always assumed they fell
Varrios los Aztecas leader 1992 (Ceser Vilapando) Varrios los Aztecas in 2013 ( Ortega)❤❤
I thought Jose was the leader and Cesar was the underboss?
@@JeffreyCastro-gq4jl cesar isn’t underboss ceser is leader and founder of aztecas jose is a high ranking member 🫶
Ballas really lost half the hood trying to sell Lamar dry wall. That's why gang banging ain't worth it kids.
Of course nothing in this video is canon as GTA 5 and San Andreas are in two different universes.
That’s why In SA I don’t take every territory
Love how Trevor is basically the boggieman of the Lost
trevor is a joke
@@shycho1690 love how trevor ran like a b@@t from Franklin
4:26 ohhhhhh SHlTTT. TREVOR got his official put on??? 😂😅😅 I aint know.
They Def gotta name him OG CYCO.
Vagos are in business with Martin Madrazo and Aztecas are in arms trade business with Guzman from the Cartel (until Trevor takes over). I would say Vagos are the most powerful and biggest in size, Aztecas are smaller but make up for it with their wide range of connections and Ballas are up and coming and diversifying their money making schemes whereas CGF is stuck ih the 90s hanging out on the corner and selling dime bags. This is why Gerald in GTA Online gives you missions to rob other drug dealers hecsuse CGF isnt connected the way the other groups are
Vagos are the toughest to fight, they tend to have more automatic guns !
From Congo 💪🏿🇨🇬💯
Couple things to write about:
12:06 you state all the OG gang members are dead, however this isn't really true. Angus (if you played TLaD, Angus Martin is the guy in the wheelchair) is still alive.
I would've liked to see more gangs talked about, like the Salvadorian gang in Los Santos, the Angels of Death, and maybe some of the mafias from GTA 4 like the Pegorinos.
Angus isn't the only one either devs also confirmed tho u can shoot Terry and Clay off their bikes terry is the only one who's death is cannon meaning since the lost disbanded in 4 leaving Angus on his own n no longer a member and restarting the club in 5 that make clay the last n only real member from 4 they said even if u kill clay he's still alive cannonly somehow also if u steal random event shit like meth the Los Santos chapter pres al Carter will message u online in game about the drugs meaning clay most likely went to their chapter or took over the blaine county one
People are gonna remember the name big smoke.
Me asking goggle who did cj kill at the end of gta SA
Google: big smoke
Personally I don't know if the Triads from San Andreas and IV are the same from 5 (and this might be an enourmous stretch/theory from my part), but the Triads in San Fierro and Liberty City speak Cantonese dialect (therefore Triads from Hong Kong or Guangdong region) while GTA V's Triads speak Mandarin or Standard Chinese (so could be Northern Region Triads or even Taiwanese).
Yup actually there are different groups of triads I think and there are different leaders so it could be possible
Frank was right tho this aint 90's this era is different and sweet finally gave up grove street famile and liven peace in san fierro with kendle and cesar!! Cj is now a CEO! Running many business with wuzee~ his best pal!
Exactly!! The only one that would probably stay is Sweet but even with the Families back on top and in control, he could pretty much leave leadership to someone else and take off with CJ and Kendl to actually live a better life
And now in Online we have Ballas and Families fighting alongside to get back the copy of Dreys phone from the Vagos
What in tarnation is CJ wearing? Why in the Sam Hell is he dressed like he and A Pimp Named Slickback are the leaders of the GSF and the Ballas respectively?
Lol cj got rich and said fuck everything else cause the way it ended the grove should’ve be the top gang in gta5
Yeah in mission home coming where sweet got released from jail, he said that he had casino and dealership in San fierro and venturas and also said to leave the neighborhood but sweet didn't agree with him and said that he has to take care of gang, after the ending, sweet most probably got killed due to gang wars and cj along with ceaser and kendl left los Santos abandoning the gang
@@truegameryt9720Thats exactly what I think would happen, if both universes mixed together. With everything that CJ had going on, no way in hell would wanna stick around and deal with all that bullshit. The only issue would be Sweet but by the end of the game, Sweet and CJ pretty much made up and got past everything that happened between them so he’d probably go along with CJ too 🤷♂️ With the leadership gone and the Johnson brothers not holding much influence, the Ballas would definitely take advantage of it. The thing that would probably save the Families from losing more was that Temple and Seville made up and made the Families still whole in some way
@@LexDiamond178 Yeah, however both of the universes are different and rockstar likes to give us older references and Easter eggs. So most probably it still ain't confirmed. Maybe in 3D universe, Families and Aztecas came to a treaty and took over all of the LS and the leadership remained under Ceaser and Sweet or maybe big bear took over as a successor.
For the people who didnt know well enough there are 3 different universes in GTA series
The first is 2D Universe
The games set in this are
GTA 1
GTA London
GTA 2
The 2nd is 3D Universe
The games set is
GTA 3
GTA Vice City
GTA San Andreas
GTA Liberty City Stories
GTA Vice City Stories
The 3rd is HD Universe
The games set in this
GTA 4 (main location Liberty City)
GTA 5 (Los Santos, San Andreas )
Probably GTA 6 (Vice City)
- So no one considers the 2d gta games story not popular with masses
- Whatever happened in 3D Universe wont affect HD one
- Same goes for HD no affect on 3D and even somehow with multiverse shit like marvel and still have little to no effect because 3d story took in past like 90s and all while HD stories starts with 2004 and majorly from 2008 .
1:40 😳
Hey, at least our favorite versions of the gangs survived.
Wish they would’ve put some sleeping dogs characters in gta 5 or jimmy hopkins 😂
The two random NPCs in the Baller must've installed the "ejecto seato, cuz" option! 😂😂
Gta 6 is gonna be so good man
Even if CJ did exist in the HD universe, Franklin was right in saying that it’s not the 80s-90s anymore. No way in hell would any of them be around in Los Santos in modern times. CJ would be living large and in different industries. Sweet would probably be either along with CJ or dead from still banging. Kendl and Cesar would probably be in San Fierro with the garage and real estate stuff. Everyone else would be gone and forgotten about by the time GTA V happened, so I don’t find it weird or sad that Grove Street Families went away when nearly everyone in the leadership either went to do other stuff (CJ, Sweet maybe), was killed (Smoke, Ryder), or left the gang beforehand (B Dup, Big Bear although he does try and get clean)
grove street taking over the map inlcluded area 69 is crazy
CJ (or his HD analogue) likely never got 100% control of los santos in canon and what he left behind eventually likely fell to petty beef between the grove families. The ballas, aztecas, and vagos probably took advantage of the situation leading to the gang placements we have today.
i wanna see the old vice gangs in gta 6 i really like the cubans and their hermes
4:59 considering that cesar is friends with cj, probably cesar's gang (wich also wears vagos/aztecas outfits) make peace with groove street gang of probably able to hang out of their main territory without issues with the families wich would in a way explain being able to still do the lowrider competition xD (specially as cj helped cesar reclaim their home street from the enemy aztecas/vagos)
Man i remember that i paid a visit to grove street in gta v to remember the good old days and i saw it was taken by ballas. Then i went on a rampage.
👿VS😈
Actually the ballas & families squashed their beef apparently & they both become powerful before they squashed it
If Johnny were to dump Ashley for good, the Lost MC would've been even bigger than in gta 4
The families have a lot of activity in the contract missions with Franklin and Dr. Dre in online
From what i can tell, Gta sanandres and 5 take place in separate universes
I never 100% the territory in GTA SA because it just doesn’t seem realistic no gangs get that much power over the others in reality
02.00 that could be you and me one day dog...trash talk shit in 2013 became a reality in 2021
Angels of Death are in Vice city as well, they have missions and all. You forgot about that!
That is the Vice City Bikers MC,Big Mitch Baker's gang,Angels of Death weren't created until gta 4,but according to their website in Gta 4 they were active in the south of east coast,where Leonida and Vice City are located
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I like the fact that you didn't use gun on the females instead you just punched her 😂😂😂😂😂
U say families aint involved in criminal activities did you forget about Gerald? Also DNF ain't the only families set there is
The lost got destroyed, yet they keep coming back in online
Not fully destroyed. Sandy shores chapter got wiped out. Still got the LS and Paleto chapters. With Trevor going Vinewood in 2013 there's no one to rival them in blaine county other than the Online Player and the Vagos. Aztecas still haven't bounced back from Trevor wiping them out save for their hood in LS. Online player only keep the gangs around for the market competition as without the gangs they are the only one dealing so there's no incentive to have the best product in LS. Which the Online player prefers to be on top as the best criminal in LS.
the greens in the 5 is like O-BLOCK i guess
2:02 "it looks like we're gonna end up in the other direction" *Hits a Car and then hits the wall*
They take place in different universes. Maybe similar but different
1:39 😂😂😂
2:38 ngl this looks kinda sad when Trevor punches this guy he looked so innocent😭🙏
Gta Online character: They're all my bitches even Madrazo's goons. I own this city they just live in it. Lets see them get a tank, jet, or flying bike and take it to a gunfight.
1:40 bro just flung away💀💀
Trevor Philips interprise 🤝 Chamberlain gangsters Families
They start taking trips to Vice City
Franklin is part of Chamberlain Hills Families, not Davis Families
In gta 4 we saw one of poster where a wealthy mafia boss or ceo was in there in gta 4 nd he looks like cj nd jn gta 5 Franklin also said that "they might be wealthy ceo nd so" So ig rockstat hinted us that cj do became an wealthy ceo nd yeah mafia boss too
Ballas from gta sa are wiped out because they were pure evil.
Ballas from gta 5/online are spared because they're not heartless as from sa version.
Ohh I miss the 90s 😢
You forgot avout Angus from the Lost MC in TLAD. He's the only character from the Lost MC in TLAD that's still alive (as of when we last heard of him).
Don't forget Dave Grossman
@@mrpoetoe3609 Yeah, however he was a very minor character. I guess you're right though.
@@3rdStreetAVolitionitehe only appears in one mission in story and in his random encounter
@@mr.andrew7820 Still alive though last we heard.
Well, realistically, only gang in Los Santos besides the Aztekas since you need a cheat or something to be able to conquer all territories. I think there's a way to get the Aztekas' territory by via a certain mission near the end. (It's not that theirs again until after this mission, but either the Ballas' or Vagos'.) Kind of sucks you need to do this, because I wanted to expand the homies' range to San Fierro and Las Venturas, preferably around the Casino and CJ's San Fierro ventures. It'd make sense for there to be a Grove Street presence in both locations.
Wouldn't make much sense since the Triads are allies with Cj and the Italian mafia was way too big at the time
1:39 the way they eject lol
In GTA SA if the entire map is under GSF control then does that mean that there’s GSF homies in Area 69
I wish they would’ve kept Cj & sweet in grove st as triple Ogs and u could do missions for em & shit
The devs of gta5 clearly doesn't fully know sa
2:55 voice like sweet "check this out"
Bro thats was like a 1.2 milon grove merbers
1:59 Lamar predicted the future
In our language Ballas means Bullets.
People think the ballas in gta San Andreas are the same ones in GTA V 🤦♂️ the ballas in the 3D universe lost all their territories after the events of gta San Andreas and most likely stopped existing around the events of GTA LCS meanwhile in GTA V the ballas are more powerful hence why they own more territory than the families
Ypubforgot to mention the random mafoa guys you see randomly in Los Santos.
1:39 to 1:40. funniest shit ever on gta video :)
Ashley wasn't a member angus and the prospect are alive and they have more then one chapter lost mc by the way
100% Grove street in San Andreas isn't canon, CJ never really cared for the Gang since he knew it keeps people down being a gangbanger, so canonically he did the least amount necessary to finish the story and then fucked off with Madd Dogg
1:41 DAMNNNN
Why TF CANT YOU TAKE OVER neighborhoods in gta 5 tho?
Because Frank isn't a gang member after the Jewel store job. Technically the Online character owns LS and Blaine county. After all you can own property in all areas of the map and while they'll be attacked the Online character has tanks, jets, jetpacks, flying cars, flying bikes, a submarine, a heavily weaponized semi, a heavily armored rv, a truck with a missile launcher, drone launcher, scanner, and can store a flying bike, submarine cars, cars with jet engines attached, cars that can shoot missiles, heavily armed and armored cars, a missile truck, fire trucks, antiaircraft gun with flack cannons, a orbital strike launcher, a yacht, a flying mobile fortress, penthouse, office in the tallest building, two military grade bunkers, the most popular nightclub in LS, a penthouse, multiple properties, the biggest cargo, car, gun and drug empire in LS, a autoshop, chop shop, bounty hunting agency, celeb solutions agency, three experienced hackers in their pocket, is a walking arsenal, is also a great hacker, the largest fleet of cars, boats and aircraft, has ties to the government and military, Is literally immortal the best racer in Ls, has robbed everyone in LS and hasn't been caught by the LSPD. The online protag is the Kingpin of LS and is untouchable.
Los aztecas are also in las vanturs in sa
1:39 PFT-
1:39 😂😂
Those poor people 1:39
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