I must say Hassan nailed every question with amazing skill of communication and very sharp talent on profound reply. Despite disagreements on how he cut his answers short or didn't fully develop some points due to interruptions, but it benefited him and audience a lot. Hassan fired every rebuttal whenever he had the chance.and thts the best part. He didn't miss single chance to reply and raise question. I’m not only amazed by his knowledge and depth in the subject, but also by his skill in handling the media and responding effectively with just a few words. Hats off! I sense he’s one of the most promising Islamic scholars-not only in Pakistan but possibly worldwide. Sorry if I am prasing a lot but I’ve rarely seen such confidence and skill in responding from Islamic intellectuals. Prayers for Hassan and hats off to Faisal for bringing out the best in Hassan’s talent. Both r our nations Future.
I am highly impressed with Mr. Ilyas. He is being nurtured well under the guidance of Ghamidi saab. Dame style, same patience level. May Allah bless him. Faisal is equally well-researched.
Faisal Warraich entered the discussion fully prepared, having thoroughly researched the topics at hand and ready to challenge Hasan Ilyas effectively. Despite the intensity of the challenge, Hasan Ilyas demonstrated his knowledge and expertise by providing well-reasoned and convincing answers. His ability to articulate complex concepts clearly helped him navigate the debate successfully, showcasing his depth of understanding and quick thinking under pressure.
Best discussion and very informative. As a indian, as a fundamentalist, now I respect Islam as I respect my religion. Basically religion depend on every human, how he take and understand it.
Wonderful discussion. Both of these gentlemen are an asset to this nation. Warraich kept mixing it up while Hassan Ilyas kept it simple and logical. Clarity of the thought process and dissection of complex concepts was outstanding by Hassan Illyas. May Allah reward you both for this exceptional effort.
What a duel👏 I feel privileged to witness this wonderful debate! Faisal Warriach was fully prepared and trying to trap him with challenging question, but Hassan Ilyas demonstrates himself as a True Disciple of Ghamidi Sahab (May Allah Blessed Him) and shows no bother and hesitation to convey the answers of critical question asked by Mr. Warriach. During this conversation, we learn about the Islamic History - the way Quran and Sunnah Transfer to us that was never discussed before and true understanding of Islam like Islam came to us through generations textual (Quran) and practical (Sunnah) consensus and Hadith (Historical Record of Nabi SAWW). If we want to understand Islam, we should base our understanding to Quran and Sunnah as a litmus test to understand the Minhaj of Hadith and Ijma. Hassan ilyas is a true seeker and preacher conveys his message beautifully that a layman can understand it easily. Mr. Warriach accept that Hassan Ilyas tackle all the questions bravely. May Allah bless you all. I hope we can see more podcast like this in future. We all need to re-discover Islam not to re-invent it.
Very rational and logical explanation of basic and foundational concepts about Sunnah, its relevance and relation with Quran. Quran furnishes the principles and Sunnah helps to expand it.
At 36:00 i have one answer one of Faisal Bhai’s question that he is asking about the transformation of Quran via generations I have 1 thing to say about this particular question. The meaning of the Quran verse is “ Beshak hum ne ye Quran nazil kiya aur hum hi isk Muhafiz han”. Hats off to both of you both are well prepared and logical conversation between both of them❤.
Great session!! Faisal dig down the topic for the audiences very well however in few occasions, if he isn't interrupted, it would be great....so that the continuity of the answer will be fully attended.....no dramas, such errors happen in a cross questioning. Hussan has nailed difficult questions in a highly knowledgeable manner. Well done, and we extremely needed more sessions like this.❤
فیصل صاحب آپ ایک اسلامی اسکالر تو نہیں ہیں مگر کچھ جیزون پر آپ نے بہت ہی عمدہ سوالات اٹھائے،،،جن میں ایک یہ کہ آیا ہر بندہ قرآن مجید کو صحیح طریقے سے سمجھ سکتا ہے،،،،❤
Impressive, i really appreciate faisal warraich and Ilyas sahab for having such a wonderful thought provoking session. Added so much meaningful to our knowledge. Really enjoyed the great debate of Two intellectuals . Live long and stay blessed. ❤
جس طرح قرآن کی آیات کو سمجھنے کے لئے شان نزول کو بھی مدنظر رکھنا ضروری ہوتا ہے، بالکل اسی طرح میری یہ خواہش ہے کہ حدیث کو بھی سمجھنے کے لئے اسکے موقع محل اور وجہ پر بھی کام کیا جائے ، کوئ ہے جو ہر حدیث کے پیچھے وجہ پر کام کرے ۔
Very challenging and very thought provoking podcast. One question asked by Mr Warriach whether Islam can be completed without Hadees. I think Mr. Ilyas rightly said that Islam is complete without Hadees. We got to understand the difference between Sunnah and Hadees. Quran, Holy Prophet and Sahaba never gathered or wrote any saying of Holy Prophet. Gathering of Hadiths happened many decades and centuries later though by the good intentions of some human beings. On the other hand Sunnah is always been followed by Sahaba from the day 1 of Islam and were witnessed as practices of Holy Prophet and those practices were followed, practiced and passed by generations till now.
الیاس صاحب کا بیانیہ تمام تر عقلی طور پر تعمیر شدہ ہے۔ اسکی کوئی ایک بھی تاریخی ثبوت موجود نہیں۔ اگر یہ پوڈکاسٹ پاکستان کے بجائے کسی مغربی ملک میں ہوتی تو الیاس صاحب کو خجالت کا سامنا کرنا پڑتا۔ کمال کی بات ہے کہ اتنی اہم کتاب اور پہلی ۳-۴ صدیوں میں ایک بھی نسخہ موجود نہیں جبکہ کئی نسخے دریافت ہوچکے تو مختلف ہیں، قراءت بھی کئی آج بھی نافذ ہیں
A good discussion. Faisal sahab, I am your fan. I wish you had done some research on the content of Ghamidi Shab on specific places where you had questions. There is a vast knowledge and principles behind his work. It appeared that you wanted to prove your point instead of learning the principles.
Masha Allah, first time I feel Muhammad Hasan Ilyas is the best student of Javed Ahmed Ghamidi because of his patience in-front of Fasil waraich. Insha Allah I will listen half lecture tomorrow… Fasil Sunat mean Sunat a Ibrahimi which God discussed in Quran, that’s why we say Quran & Sunat is the only source of Islam which humans got by Angel Jibraeal and prophet Muhammad fellows their students & students next generation( تابعین تبا تابعین ) …… Hadees was a prophet Muhammad Historical Biography , Seerat o sawanah , incidents narratives . تفہیم و تدوین Tafheem o tadween narratives which told how prophet Muhammad practiced Quran for explaining suhaba …. Narrating Hadees narratives by prophet Muhammad fellows, students was human subject for prophet Muhammad,s history.
Here comes the wisdom of Muhammad Ali Jinah, who lead the nation for Pakistan o the basis of two nation theory. We as a Muslim should think and continuously revist our thinking. As Quran after every paragraph demands usافلا تعقلون/ تعلمون/ تتفکرون / تبصرون / تتقون/ تعلمون ۔
Faisal Bhai ap mashAllah buhat Elam ki pyase hi ap agar uloomi diniyya ki baqaida husul Shuru karde Adnan kaka khel sｂ ya jamiat tu rashed ya Kise ahli sunnat ki madrasa mi ap buht jald scholor bn jayingi or din ki tabligh buht achi tareki se krlingi
Agar zeenat wali ayat hi hawala liya jaye to phir hum insan apne hisaab se kitni buri cheezon ko bhi zeenat smjhty hain, phir to kaee log uske liye bhi koi raah nikal leingy is ayat se..
نُورِ دل جاتا رہا اِک رسم دیں کی رَہ گئی پھر بھی کہتے ہیں کہ کوئی مصلحِ دیں کیا بکار راگ وہ گاتے ہیں جس کو آسماں گاتا نہیں وہ ارادے ہیں کہ جو ہیں برخلافِ شہریار ہائے مارِ آستیں وہ بن گئے دیں کے لئے وہ تو فربہ ہو گئے پر دیں ہوا زار و نزار
فیصل وڑائچ آپ بات کو درمیان سے اچک کر لفظ کو پکڑ کر سوالات کی یلغار کر رہے ہیں یہ طریقہ ہم ٹی وی شوز میں بہت دیکھ چکےاور اسکا نتیجہ بھی دیکھ چکے خاموشی سے جواب سنیں اور سوالات کو لکھ کر رکھیں اور بات مکمل ہونے پر اگلا سوال کریں
In 1:33:00, the interviewer should have asked about Ahmadi interpretation of Islam as Islamic franchise. Whether Ilyas sb recognize their right of interpretation of Islam in their own way or not?
Hassan bhai ulama k sath bht zabardast ilmi fikri or istadlaali andaz me jawab dete hain, lekin is tarha k phalsafiana sawalat ko kis tarha tackle karna hai us me thori kamzori nazar aayi, zavia ghamidi naam se ek series hai us k 12 13 or 14 episode me in sawalat k bht hi ilmi jawab diye hain. Hassan bhai bht bari ilmi shaksiat hain lekin is ground me ghamidi sahab se bht seekhne ki zarorat hai.
آپ کے تیکھے اور باوقار سوالات دیکھ سن کر اور برادرم حسن الیاس کے جوابات سے مزہ آیا۔
اس طرح کے سیشنز ہوتے رہنے چاہئیں
I must say Hassan nailed every question with amazing skill of communication and very sharp talent on profound reply.
Despite disagreements on how he cut his answers short or didn't fully develop some points due to interruptions, but it benefited him and audience a lot. Hassan fired every rebuttal whenever he had the chance.and thts the best part. He didn't miss single chance to reply and raise question. I’m not only amazed by his knowledge and depth in the subject, but also by his skill in handling the media and responding effectively with just a few words. Hats off! I sense he’s one of the most promising Islamic scholars-not only in Pakistan but possibly worldwide. Sorry if I am prasing a lot but I’ve rarely seen such confidence and skill in responding from Islamic intellectuals.
Prayers for Hassan and hats off to Faisal for bringing out the best in Hassan’s talent.
Both r our nations Future.
I am highly impressed with Mr. Ilyas. He is being nurtured well under the guidance of Ghamidi saab. Dame style, same patience level. May Allah bless him.
Faisal is equally well-researched.
Faisal Warraich entered the discussion fully prepared, having thoroughly researched the topics at hand and ready to challenge Hasan Ilyas effectively. Despite the intensity of the challenge, Hasan Ilyas demonstrated his knowledge and expertise by providing well-reasoned and convincing answers. His ability to articulate complex concepts clearly helped him navigate the debate successfully, showcasing his depth of understanding and quick thinking under pressure.
وڑائچ صاحب کسی طریقے سے حسن بھائی کو لاجواب کر نے کی چکر میں تھے لیکن حقیقی علم جیت گیا ماشاءاللہ حسن بھائی ❤
Best discussion and very informative. As a indian, as a fundamentalist, now I respect Islam as I respect my religion. Basically religion depend on every human, how he take and understand it.
Wonderful discussion. Both of these gentlemen are an asset to this nation. Warraich kept mixing it up while Hassan Ilyas kept it simple and logical. Clarity of the thought process and dissection of complex concepts was outstanding by Hassan Illyas. May Allah reward you both for this exceptional effort.
This guy is epic... The reconstruction of religous thought in Islam is the only way forward
حسن الیاس صاحب نے نہایت تحمل سے عمدہ جوابات دیے ہیں،سائل کو سوال کرنا چاییے،بحث نہیں !
What a duel👏 I feel privileged to witness this wonderful debate! Faisal Warriach was fully prepared and trying to trap him with challenging question, but Hassan Ilyas demonstrates himself as a True Disciple of Ghamidi Sahab (May Allah Blessed Him) and shows no bother and hesitation to convey the answers of critical question asked by Mr. Warriach. During this conversation, we learn about the Islamic History - the way Quran and Sunnah Transfer to us that was never discussed before and true understanding of Islam like Islam came to us through generations textual (Quran) and practical (Sunnah) consensus and Hadith (Historical Record of Nabi SAWW). If we want to understand Islam, we should base our understanding to Quran and Sunnah as a litmus test to understand the Minhaj of Hadith and Ijma. Hassan ilyas is a true seeker and preacher conveys his message beautifully that a layman can understand it easily. Mr. Warriach accept that Hassan Ilyas tackle all the questions bravely. May Allah bless you all. I hope we can see more podcast like this in future. We all need to re-discover Islam not to re-invent it.
Proud student of Ghamidi sb Alhamdulilah. All thanks to Almighty Allah for guiding me
Salute to the patience & grace of Hasan Ilyas.
Very rational and logical explanation of basic and foundational concepts about Sunnah, its relevance and relation with Quran. Quran furnishes the principles and Sunnah helps to expand it.
دو پڑھے لکھے لوگ آپس میں بات کر رہے ہیں ماشاءاللہ
Is tarhah ki ilmi discussion smjhny walon ko bohat faida deti ha
فیصل صاحب ماشاء اللّٰہ آپ چیزوں کی گہرائی میں جاکر سوالات کررہے تھے ،،،،Great
Mr. Hassan Ilyas patience in explaining questions is REMARKABLE.
اللّٰہ کریم! غامدی صاحب اور رفقاء کو اجر، استقامت، صحت و سلامتی عطاء فرمائے۔ آمین
Very good interview by faisal sb and very good responce by hassan sb..thanks for educating
ماشاءاللہ ۔۔۔۔۔ حسن الیاس صاحب نے بڑی مدلل اور سیر حاصل گفتگو کی۔
What an awesome and truthful answers given by Brother Hasan. He is definitely a good servant of His Lord.
Peace&Love.
-Moin(IND)
اللہ ہمیں فرقوں سے نجات عطا فرمائے
Very intriguing.
I came to know lot of new concepts and urdu vocabulary 😊
At 36:00 i have one answer one of Faisal Bhai’s question that he is asking about the transformation of Quran via generations I have 1 thing to say about this particular question. The meaning of the Quran verse is “ Beshak hum ne ye Quran nazil kiya aur hum hi isk Muhafiz han”.
Hats off to both of you both are well prepared and logical conversation between both of them❤.
Loved the show, very intellectual discussion and questions ❤❤❤
حسن الیاس بہت خوب بہت عمدہ گفتگو اسلام علیکم بنگلور انڈیا سے
Most Awaited curious podcast❤❤❤
Brother Faisal, your critical approach to all aspects is superb and brother Hassan's replies. Superb interaction. Required frequently.
غامدی صاحب سے بھی ایک مختصر ڈاکیومنٹری ہونی چاہیئے ۔۔۔
Great session!! Faisal dig down the topic for the audiences very well however in few occasions, if he isn't interrupted, it would be great....so that the continuity of the answer will be fully attended.....no dramas, such errors happen in a cross questioning.
Hussan has nailed difficult questions in a highly knowledgeable manner.
Well done, and we extremely needed more sessions like this.❤
WOW. I'm amazed to see you both here. ❤❤❤❤
Beautiful discussion mashallah
The most exciting program two intellectual meet together it is learning
Amazing podcast. This is the type and way of discussion we need.
فیصل صاحب آپ ایک اسلامی اسکالر تو نہیں ہیں مگر کچھ جیزون پر آپ نے بہت ہی عمدہ سوالات اٹھائے،،،جن میں ایک یہ کہ آیا ہر بندہ قرآن مجید کو صحیح طریقے سے سمجھ سکتا ہے،،،،❤
We need a whole series of these interviews where each question is discussed thoroughly. Idk if all of u need it or not but i do.
Faisal Bhai, apny bhtachy sawal poochy, aisy sawal karny ki bht zarurat hy. jawabat bhu bht achy hue
Clarity of thought, and strong articulation prevailed over mind-boggling questions.
Loved the conversation
Faisal warraich aur sbko Ghamidi sb ki 23 itrazat series dkhni chahye Mooseqi,Dari,para,hadees sb py bht shandar guftagoo hui hai
Excellent discussion! V informative!
Impressive, i really appreciate faisal warraich and Ilyas sahab for having such a wonderful thought provoking session. Added so much meaningful to our knowledge. Really enjoyed the great debate of Two intellectuals . Live long and stay blessed. ❤
جس طرح قرآن کی آیات کو سمجھنے کے لئے شان نزول کو بھی مدنظر رکھنا ضروری ہوتا ہے، بالکل اسی طرح میری یہ خواہش ہے کہ حدیث کو بھی سمجھنے کے لئے اسکے موقع محل اور وجہ پر بھی کام کیا جائے ، کوئ ہے جو ہر حدیث کے پیچھے وجہ پر کام کرے ۔
Impressive answers ❤ also questions...
excellent discussion, unbiased, thought provoking and full of learning. Congratulations!
Masha Allah, very impressive and fruitful discussion!
Very excited about this one
Very good question and answers
....
What a great and refreshing podcast
This was an excellent program; please continue this conversation.
Faisal Warich Mere khayal se Athsit ho gye hain . Hassan bahi aap ne bohat Acche tariqe se handal kiya well-done
Very challenging and very thought provoking podcast. One question asked by Mr Warriach whether Islam can be completed without Hadees. I think Mr. Ilyas rightly said that Islam is complete without Hadees. We got to understand the difference between Sunnah and Hadees. Quran, Holy Prophet and Sahaba never gathered or wrote any saying of Holy Prophet. Gathering of Hadiths happened many decades and centuries later though by the good intentions of some human beings. On the other hand Sunnah is always been followed by Sahaba from the day 1 of Islam and were witnessed as practices of Holy Prophet and those practices were followed, practiced and passed by generations till now.
Love you ❤. Hassan Ilyas. Great Explanation 👍 👌
الیاس صاحب کا بیانیہ تمام تر عقلی طور پر تعمیر شدہ ہے۔ اسکی کوئی ایک بھی تاریخی ثبوت موجود نہیں۔ اگر یہ پوڈکاسٹ پاکستان کے بجائے کسی مغربی ملک میں ہوتی تو الیاس صاحب کو خجالت کا سامنا کرنا پڑتا۔
کمال کی بات ہے کہ اتنی اہم کتاب اور پہلی ۳-۴ صدیوں میں ایک بھی نسخہ موجود نہیں جبکہ کئی نسخے دریافت ہوچکے تو مختلف ہیں، قراءت بھی کئی آج بھی نافذ ہیں
Well explained 👏 Hassan bhaie ❤
فیصل بھائی!ذرا صبر وتحمل رکھئے۔۔۔۔۔
بہت ہی دلچسپ،مدلل،علمی وفکری بحث ہےحسن بھائی کی بات مکمل ہونے پر سوال کیجئے 🙏🏻👍🏻
Very interesting discussion 👌
Hassan bhai too good...Faisal with all due respect interrupting a lot... but it's been a pleasure to listen..
بہترین سیشن ❤ زبردست علمی گفتگو
Informative discussion appreciated
Masha Allah! Ustaads
Insightful
سو فیصد درست ❤
Love both of Youuuuuuuuu
A good discussion. Faisal sahab, I am your fan. I wish you had done some research on the content of Ghamidi Shab on specific places where you had questions. There is a vast knowledge and principles behind his work. It appeared that you wanted to prove your point instead of learning the principles.
Insha Allah tomorrow I will listen completely than I hope I will share on fb messenger
wow wow wow ❤❤❤
حسن الیاس صاحب قیصر احمد راجہ سے کیوں گفتگو نہیں کرتے اپ
Bahut. Achhi. Bat. Cheer. Kiya. Allah. Hak. Ko. Kaim. Rakhhe. From. Delhi.
Masha Allah, first time I feel Muhammad Hasan Ilyas is the best student of Javed Ahmed Ghamidi because of his patience in-front of Fasil waraich. Insha Allah I will listen half lecture tomorrow… Fasil Sunat mean Sunat a Ibrahimi which God discussed in Quran, that’s why we say Quran & Sunat is the only source of Islam which humans got by Angel Jibraeal and prophet Muhammad fellows their students & students next generation( تابعین تبا تابعین ) …… Hadees was a prophet Muhammad Historical Biography , Seerat o sawanah , incidents narratives .
تفہیم و تدوین Tafheem o tadween narratives which told how prophet Muhammad practiced Quran for explaining suhaba …. Narrating Hadees narratives by prophet Muhammad fellows, students was human subject for prophet Muhammad,s history.
زبردست بات چیت🙌🏼
جتنے بھی سواد اعظم سے الگ ہوئے ہیں وہ اپنے آپ کو حق اور سواد اعظم کو باطل سمجھتا ہے لیکن کچھ عرصہ کے بعد ان کا نام و نشان بھی نہیں رہتا
Both are great people.
26:00 کمال ذہانت سے (smartly) اپنا نقطہ نظر واضح کیا۔
سبحان اللہ وبحمدہ، سبحان اللہ العظیم
اسلام پر بھی دشمنوں کی عجب یلغار ہے، مذہب بھی جدید ہوا جدید طرز پر افکار ہے، 😢،
Here comes the wisdom of Muhammad Ali Jinah, who lead the nation for Pakistan o the basis of two nation theory. We as a Muslim should think and continuously revist our thinking. As Quran after every paragraph demands usافلا تعقلون/ تعلمون/ تتفکرون / تبصرون / تتقون/ تعلمون
۔
Bast video ❤
Faisal Bhai ap mashAllah buhat Elam ki pyase hi ap agar uloomi diniyya ki baqaida husul Shuru karde Adnan kaka khel sｂ ya jamiat tu rashed ya Kise ahli sunnat ki madrasa mi ap buht jald scholor bn jayingi or din ki tabligh buht achi tareki se krlingi
Allah ka shukr hai aap kabhi elect nahin hon ge . Thanks to the inner wisdom of the Pakistanis
PAKISTAN IN SAFE HANDS ....Alhamdulillah
Keep it up @Hassan Ilyas
@Faisal Waraich
Wow
We want to see you two again and again on different topics ❤❤
Agar zeenat wali ayat hi hawala liya jaye to phir hum insan apne hisaab se kitni buri cheezon ko bhi zeenat smjhty hain, phir to kaee log uske liye bhi koi raah nikal leingy is ayat se..
23:00, text on its own, versus text within the context. That seems to be the difference.
وڑائچ صاحب پلیز آپ سوال کرکے الیاس صاحب کی بات پوری ہونے دیں۔
Itmam e hujjat py Ghamidi SB ki series dkhein...Sach khu to 23 itrazat series ko har aadmi ko zrur Sunna chahye
faisal waraich bro be patient
my two favorites
I can see a good successor in Hassan bhai
34:45
Transmission
Or Transformation ???
نُورِ دل جاتا رہا اِک رسم دیں کی رَہ گئی
پھر بھی کہتے ہیں کہ کوئی مصلحِ دیں کیا بکار
راگ وہ گاتے ہیں جس کو آسماں گاتا نہیں
وہ ارادے ہیں کہ جو ہیں برخلافِ شہریار
ہائے مارِ آستیں وہ بن گئے دیں کے لئے
وہ تو فربہ ہو گئے پر دیں ہوا زار و نزار
1:24:05 aap to mere saath jayenge nhi ..😂😂 Hassan bhai.. love you🎉🎉
Hassan bhai❤❤❤
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Ghamidi sb is 21 century best islamic scholar
فیصل وڑائچ آپ بات کو درمیان سے اچک کر لفظ کو پکڑ کر سوالات کی یلغار کر رہے ہیں
یہ طریقہ ہم ٹی وی شوز میں بہت دیکھ چکےاور اسکا نتیجہ بھی دیکھ چکے
خاموشی سے جواب سنیں اور سوالات کو لکھ کر رکھیں اور بات مکمل ہونے پر اگلا سوال کریں
Also one podcast with Ghamidi shahab k sath b kren ❤
In 1:33:00, the interviewer should have asked about Ahmadi interpretation of Islam as Islamic franchise. Whether Ilyas sb recognize their right of interpretation of Islam in their own way or not?
Hassan bhai ulama k sath bht zabardast ilmi fikri or istadlaali andaz me jawab dete hain, lekin is tarha k phalsafiana sawalat ko kis tarha tackle karna hai us me thori kamzori nazar aayi, zavia ghamidi naam se ek series hai us k 12 13 or 14 episode me in sawalat k bht hi ilmi jawab diye hain. Hassan bhai bht bari ilmi shaksiat hain lekin is ground me ghamidi sahab se bht seekhne ki zarorat hai.