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Jim Cornette on Booker T's Comments About AEW
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 พ.ย. 2022
- From Episode 268 of the Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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Earlier this year Booker pointed out that Adam Cole was probably injury prone because he needed to bulk up a little bit and people shrieked about body shaming.
Then Cole came back from his injury, got double drop kicked at the PPV, flew through the air like a leaf in the wind, and injured again. lol
AND this time cole might have to retire
Are we as Wrestling Fans called Farens now or Warens Wrestling Karen's 😏🤣
You should take Adams place and be a professional wrestler
Body shaming 😂 because he's hella skinny okay.
well sorry adam cole is just way to small in general to get over as any type of “world heavyweight champion” IMO
I remember Bret Hart talking about one of his first matches with Andre the Giant and Andre was doing a drop on him and he was terrified that he would be legitimately squashed for real. "Andre set me down like a baby and when he fell on me it was like being covered with a sweaty warm blanket."
THAT is being in control of yourself and your opponent.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Andre respected the business and he owned the locker room no one would dare go against him. Andre beat the crap out of Savage one night because Andre told him not to use baby oil but he did and Andre put him in place.
@@dnakatomiuk No Baby Oil!!!!
@@dnakatomiuk he also beat up the Iron Sheik for taking liberties with jobbers.
It also helps if Andre liked you..... Cuz if he didn't.....
The problem with AEW is that the wrestlers try to make every match a 5 star match, so now no match is a 5 star match, unless you do crazier and crazier stunts. MJF gets over more with a shoot than Matt Sydal does with a shooting star press.
Very spot on sir.
It’s the WCW Cruiserweight principle. We all loved watching that division in the 90s. They were some of the best matches on any given Nitro, but they weren’t the main draw, and there are only so many times you can see Juventud Guerrera take a hurricanrana before you’ve seen every hurricanrana. You need characters. You need emotional investment. You need psychology for Professional Wrestling to work.
Not to mention everybody thinks they can do a Canadian destroyer and make em look good like Petey Williams or a half ass variation of one. Pure garbage.
@@MichaelSmith-fq6hz something kinda weird about grown ass men pretend fighting in their underwear 🌈
@@birdmandrugstories i know right..??? Ya just gotta love it 💕
All book is saying is pick your spots, make it feel special it will literally extend your career.
Agree - if it is on a match at Wrestlemania then go take the risk. On a random Dynamite, make sure you could still go through the match safe and healthy enough to make it to the next PPV
The problem with the Athena matches is that she's doing it to a jobber who has no say in what is happening. That just makes it worse.
@@Hedgehobbit He did NOT SAY THAT!! clean ya ears foo
You read too many books
This is where working 300+ days a year would come in handy. Your 30th day in a row on the road in a car you're not going to want to do all that so you have to figure out something else. I know, they're weren't talking about nxt, but nxt should be the 300 days a year, college and highschool gyms. Some would hate it but the crop of stars would be better for it and you weed out the people that this type of work isn't necessarily for
3 of the worst 4 bumps I've seen in recent memory were all AEW. 1) Matt Hardy clearly concussed but still wrestling vs Sami 2) Julia Hart taking ridiculous table fall spot that added nothing 3) Darby diving off the top of 20 ft ladder onto Jeff Hardy stacked on chairs in the OWEN HART TOURNAMENT. 4) Big E breaking his neck in a clear botch. The difference being the AEW bumps were all planned spots willingly performed by the wrestlers. Tony's got a big problem here and they better fix it fast or someone is legitimately going to die on camera.
oh god the first two were so bad I forgot about the Darby bump, and I don't know if this is worse than the top 3 but what made me stop watching Dynamite outside of isolated TH-cam clips was when Sammy did a flipping nothing off a ladder and nearly landed on his head
it may be bad to say, but i dont think tony will care until it's to late when it comes to those dangerous spots.
@@LesmoVids Yeah Sammy and Darby have like 10 more honorable mentions between them. They are my top 2 candidates for actually having their career ended on camera. If not them then probably Ruby Soho
because despite her being a total pro... everyone literally tries to kill her lol.
Lucha saurus snapping that guys leg was absolutely brutal
@@LesmoVids That's the thing -- these dudes are risking their lives and no one remembers 2 weeks later.
Booker T basically say: I don't train her that way, if she doing such things during matches, don't blame me, blame AEW
She’s been reckless
Curious though aqa flopped in aew and athena is way over on the other side of the scale as in she too strong strong style but that knee spot was wreckless.
It’s ironic how many people get injured in AEW when nobody can throw a believable punch and so many of the moves are like the Spanish Fly where you can’t tell who is supposed to be getting hit.
My thoughts exactly
@@tylermcnally8232 do you even know what inexperienced means? Or is it a buzz word you get from old JC
Matt hardy falling off the skylift back of the skull on the concrete was the closest I've ever seen to death on TV
It must’ve affected him really bad since he’s become the biggest company man since. His wife was yelling at Tony for what happened and looks like she was bought out too.
He literally turned purple and looked like a corpse for a couple minutes there.
Seth Rollins was nearly impaled by a steel cage is probably the closest I've seen.
AEW is full of dumb, dangerous spots. But good god seth came close to death that day.
@@judgejudyandexecutioner.5223 But you will never hear WWE Marks say anything about Seth Rollins being close to death.. They act like it never happened..
what i found shocking about the matt hardy deal was someone moved those tables away from the original spot they were. apparently they were in the correct spot, but some idiot was told to move them closer to the lift.
Matt Hardy crashing down and almost cracking his skull wide open is a prime example of what booker is talking about
Exactly, that was insane
What about Big E? He broke his neck. Is Booker talking about that too? Or Owen Hart dying on Vince's time. Hmmm...
@@THEATTKID he is discussing what is currently on with wrestling.
@@4cuttime and Big E was a legitimate accident. Same with Owen... meanwhile, iirc, The Matt thing was a planned spot...
@@THEATTKID im sure booker said something about both of those when they happened.
Just because we're discussing one topic doesnt mean the others are being ignored, you dork
Doing dangerous spots and nearly killing yourself for cheap pops by neckbeards in the audience is what Hardcore fans must refer to as "Real Wrestling"
And that’s why I can’t watch this shit anymore. Any of it. I find it sad that I’m not even 30 and enjoy listening to the podcast about the old days much better then the stuff on TV.
Anyone remember Darren Drozdov? This stuff can happen but it would probably behoove them to reign this shit back some.
I read his loose clothing contributed to it.
@@Speedyreedy1218 iirc, D-Lo couldn't get a proper grip on him due to the clothing, or it caused him to slip or something, which caused the botched landing.
@@undertakernumberone1 That's close to what I recall reading.
Booker T & Stevie Ray . One of wrestling most underrated tag teams .
Lmao what?
To be fair, you have to take one hell of a bump to be the fourth most memorable car crash on a Wednesday night.
The Steiners could make a guy look like he's getting absolutely destroyed while laying him down on the mat soft as a feather.
What era are we talking here? Scott Steiner was certainly not "soft as a feather" for at least half of his career.
I loved when they beat up the Beverly Brothers 😂
Taking a bump ain’t soft like a feather dude
Can't compare today's wrestlers with them old school boys, no comparison
@@truthtyperii7727 The Destruction Crew
Today's generation of wrestlers will happily cripple themselves with high spots, but wouldn't dream of actually touching someone with a working punch.
Austin never mastered a working punch. HHH said he potatoed him all the time and Austin agreed.
@@Speedyreedy1218 Austin's mudhole stomp looks so phony
That’s so true! Even though I can’t stand the guy - but even Disco Inferno always says you have to learn how to throw a working punch! And a lot of these guys and girls don’t know how to throw one! They throw European uppercuts , or shitty forearms! And if your Kicks going to sound like your chops because of your thigh slaps. Don’t do it!
@@johnnytrejo911 Austin's stomps were so shitty. Cornette said so too, but added because his character was over, it didn't matter.
@@omellemmor4732 Agreed!!!
I don't always agree with Booker,but he is spot on about this one.
No hes not
You're forgetting that Big E just recently broke his neck
He's usually right. I expect cornette comment section is full of hardcore wrestling extremists. That's all that's left.
@@Excremental_Discharge Understandable, though the point of the video is that it can happen. You grit your teeth more watching AEW because of the unnecessary spots they do trying to satisfy everyone's 1-5 star match system. Adam Cole & Adam Page both had concussions on TV within 3-4 months from each other.
@@PatFussy069 no fan of spot monkeys but the sad reality is this brings in views. If you think aew viewership is bad now, without the spots they would be cracking 500k at most.
That Julia Hart incident, I'm so glad she didn't get hurt seriously, no reason for that especially she didn't add anything to the match.
I just hope that isn't a sign of what's to come later down the line.
I doubt she wasn't hurt at all. She probably got concussed and was told to stay quiet.
We may see somebody lose their life on live TV at this point. But it’s a worthy cause to die for the ROH All Atlantic Trios championship.
🤣
Man the sarcasm is good here but i kinda feel like some of the aew roster see it like that. Not sure if their contracts state that Tony will pay for all medical expenses and compensation if injury occurs but it feels like they aren't afraid of being crippled.
Most people already i have.
The Thumbnail though 😂😂😂😂
Lol right
I really liked the point these guys made about MJF on another recording where they said he stands out for not wrestling because everyone else wrestles all the time and dont nearly get as over
Wen he does wrestle..it's 👎👎🚮🚮
That's why Austin got over so much following his neck injury, he didn't wrestle. It made it special when Austin wrestled because you didn't see it that much
Cause wrestling has always been about BIG PERSONALITIES. Not how good of a worker you are. Look at Dusty Rhodes he was a MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR draw and couldn't really work for shit. Terry Funk great worker but it was his PERSONALITY that got him over.
If one of Tony Khan's action figures break, he will just buy a new one.
Just like Vince does and has for 40 years
He actually mentioned that Athena was one of his students. He neglected to mention that he called her "Trouble", or that one of AEW's biggest trouble makers, Sammy Guevara, is also his student.
Gotta get those "This-Is-Awe-Some!" chants somehow 😉
Coming soon Saraya vs Britt! 🤣
Damn your right lol
Hangman Adam Page is probably extremely triggered by Booker T's comments about AEW.
After Crown Jewel, He's probably triggered over Logan Paul doing the Buckshot Lariat better than him.
@@MrSircharles05 ShitA$$ Adam Page.
Always enjoy when Brian translates booker t quotes
Brain fuckin sucks
Because Brian is a professional wrestler
Dave Meltzer has done more damage to wrestling than Greg Gagne, Moolah, George Gulas, Fritz killing his sons, Vince Russo, Jim Herd. Death Matches,Omega, Bucks, Herb Abrams, Shockmaster, Jumpin Jeff Farmer, and Quincy Elliott combined.
Cry
Unka Dave 🤣😅
Quincy Elliot 😂😂 I guess being a gay black performer is a bad thing.
@@ISteelDragon420 nah we love Orlando Jones in my house, quincy just sucks 😆
@@ISteelDragon420 yes it has to be race and sexuality and not quality of performance...,,,
AEW also needs to reduce the number of super kicks and kicks to the back of the head.
I agree...
AEW fanboys might not like it but Booker T is absolutely right they don’t care about the Wrestlers health they just wanna see big spot after big spot and AEW needs to really get control of the locker room and these mark wrestlers they really just only care about the moves not having a character or having In Ring Psychology to tell a story for the match
But the problem book of t is he said WWE defender he's not going to see nothing bad about the company because he works for them he's a commentary on NXT you do all the pre shows with WWE that's why I sometimes I don't agree with Booker t because he's nothing but a WWE suck up
Except Sammy g his student is doing all that BS
Wow. That’s a loooooong sentence.
MJF cut a promo saying something like that.
The company he works for just had someone break their neck
Now I see why WWE released Ember Moon. What is happening is AEW is starting to collect a bunch of misfit Toys that WWE let go because they were not properly trained or they were unsafe. When you start to combine the hardcore wrestling style with the unsafe training style of this particular group of people you get a recipe for disaster.
Not all were released because of this coz you will agree there was no need to throw out Rusev when Rusev day was popular or Alester Black
Ember Moon is going to end up in a wheelchair anyway if she doesn't change that finisher.
Then why was she NXT champ?
Booker is a solid wrestler, so I'm assuming solid teacher, too. Not sure why she appears reckless.
Ember wasn't released because of her wrestling ability. Triple H liked her a lot and she was nowhere near as reckless then as she apparently is right now.
"Ember moon, we coming for uuuu ni--" - booker yelling at his tv
😂😂
@@scorptarget Trash.
I said this about six months ago about Allin and Guevara. They would be lucky to walk in 15 years much less wrestle. I don't think people consider long term health "in the now.".
That isn't to say that's due to the "instant gratification" era, but it has to have some impact. The "two dogs f***ing on the side of the road" analogy Jim always uses. Save important moves for when your biggest match comes, if it ever happens at all.
The problem with AEW is that they've blown their in just 3 years. As a viewer I not only feel spent but I have seen it's best years already.
Blown their:
Load?
Stack?
Lid?
@@MyNameIsUnavailable load lol
AEW has had so many near calls no one even remembers Cash splitting his arm open on a hook in the ring where he "had nerve damage and loss of grip strength" (his words on instagram). TK will have no one to blame but himself if/when something terrible happens. How many people are injured now? How many injuries has Britt Baker had since AEW started?
Watch Athena almost break Junai Kay's neck with the eclipse last dark
I never get sick of the Steven P. New ad! 😁😁
When everyone does everything all the time, it means nothing.
Nobody does anything
like the Topey Suicida: happens in every match today, impressed nobody, injures wrestlers often.
Nothing is going to happen until someones career is ended In a serious injury or death unfortunately. It's like most things these days where it takes something very tragic for said company or etc to finally put their foot down. Funny thing is that TK has had more close calls of someone getting their career ended permanently by injury or death on live Tv and still hasn't taken the chance to do anything before something goes horribly bad but then again just like his friends they know so much and have everything planned out 🙃
I thought that Rey Fenix breaking his arm on live TV was insane.
Well, Owen's accident didn't stop Vince from having some people with elaborate entrances. HBK had his ascension entrance at WM25. RVD decided to frog splash from the top of the Elimination Chamber at Survivor Series 02, without rehearsing it. He ends up crushing Hhh's larynx, which was mere inches away from permanently destroying his windpipe and ending in a fatality.
Some promoters need to take responsibility despite how eager a talent wants to do X or Y.
@@Speedyreedy1218 kinda different. Owen was a freak accident.
@@Speedyreedy1218 Owen's case is an accident. I will say that Benoit's death changed rules regarding the use of all kinds of weapons even the hell in a cell matches are watered down now. So, it's fine. Still nobody can prevent accidents like big e got injured. But in aew people are pulling off moves in which I get confused like who is trying to hurt whom.
@@ananyaraizada7657 Big E's accident was avoidable. Guys under 6ft and pushing 240, and guys over 6ft north of 240 shouldn't be doing moves like they're 5'6-5'10, 170-190 cruiserweights.
You need to be shorter and lighter to pull off not only the aesthetic grace, but make it swiftly safe. Taller, bulkier people want to dive and flip for pops. Kids like seeing wrestlers who have moves with jumps, flips, and dives. Because that's what makes them feel identified with the talent. But it's not ideal for certain body types, particularly the taller, bulkier ones.
Watching Kane at WM15 vs HHH trying to dive and midway through the middle rope trying to corkscrew moonsault and land towards his neck and head area was so cringe.
I cringe with Undertaker's dive over the top too.
Skandor Akbar also had a hand in training Athena. Which, by the way, would mean she's been at this for more than 12 years. If she hasn't learned her shit yet, she never will.
I didn't know Skandor was still alive. I remember him from the World Class days.👍
Can you or someone refresh my mind. I know she was tough, but I don't remember being this wild and stiff in matches. I think Booker wanted to say he didn't train her that way. I could be remembering her matches wrong though. It's been a while since I've seen her. I saw her on a dark match the other day, and she nearly kicked the head off a women. A 3 minute match, with a split break, while her opponent tried to collect herself. It was bad...
@@shawnchandler8719 she blew her knee out, got fat, and was never the same.
@@shawnchandler8719 I can remember some of Booker's matches in WCW when he was snug. It might be what Tony wants ( Booker of the year my eye)
@@williammitchell4417 I'm a youngin... My uncle had some VHS, so I remember seeing him on the Harlem Heat. Sadly my Booker T days were mostly from WWE, where from my knowledge of the history, he we as done dirty.. I never knew him before, but almost all the big names from that time have agreed to that point. He's one of the few who I've never had a chance to take a deep dive on, but after listening to his podcast I really want to.
Considering how many botches AEW has on a nightly bases, AEW is lucky that no one has died.
Remember what Tony said that "...we're not as much about centralized training all week long". So its not like Tony does not know this, he knows that a lot of his wrestlers are under-trained and under-prepared.
I'm pretty certain he said this on his podcast. I remember him commenting on Athena's stiff match. Booker is another guy who also says a lot of things Jim does about modern wrestling, further proving Jim's not out of touch, so I enjoy listening to his clips.
People don't remember any of these big spots because they happen so much none of them matter. Meanwhile people still talk about funk piledriving flair on the table 30 years later, because it was special, and not something you saw all the time.
0:15 I thought he was going to hum, "Green Onions" by Booker T and the MGS
Breaking news: Booker T. Huffman Jr. says "water is wet"!
More as it develops.
AEW is unwatchable now. I've been to two live shows. I would watch every Wednesday... Then I realized, week to week, you never know who will be there. Guys come and go, disappear at random. Hardly any stories to follow. 37 belts... It's just so, so bad right now.
There’s a reason why big guys like Taker only did his over the rope dive during Wrestlemania.. it’s to help give the match a big fight feel and adds to the drama.
The Flying Cow isn't anything to mess with
I really hate to say it. But I think the big accident is going to be Paige unfortunately. She is working at a place that is very unprofessional in a current condition where she needs to be with professionals that will do their best to make sure she doesnt get hurt. And that just isnt the case. Im expecting the worst might happen.
If Paige/Saraya works with Toni Storm or Shida it's over. Those two are absolute botch machines and every time I watch their matches I cringe. Athena is second tier botch status. Serena Deeb is really the only one that can work & Britt Baker has a ground style that's fairly safe. Jaime Hayter is middle of the road. So Saraya has about 3 people at best she can work.
@@ModernDayRenaissanceMan LOL What?
@@ModernDayRenaissanceMan that's a pretty pants take
Definitely. No one is careful enough to wrestle her, they are all reckless. And with the "interview" she just did with Renae, shes definitely not clear to wrestle. What, was it last month she was ok the sessions podcast and talked about how she had to carry around this choking device thingy with her because of the neck injury making it so that even to today she has trouble swallowing and talking.
Lmao Jim singing "Athena" 🤣
Jim is a fucking riot 🤣🖤
AEW fans all got that purple hair, black clothing, neck beard and FUPA thing going on if you know what I mean.
Wwe fans are Disney character cosplayers if you know what I mean. Fairy lol
Not from what I've seen
You just explained Jim's democrat ppl
@@bls8959 just look at the front row lol
I love Booker T. He's very honest and doesn't hold back when he's talking about wrestlers. He just tells it like it is and I respect that. He's like that on commentary too. He's like I'm going to say what I want to say. He's also making me a fan of Pretty Deadly. He hypes them up he's got me hyped. LOL
Jimmy Snuka jumping off the cage onto Muraco, is a headlock, compared to the dangerous flippy floppy of this era. If you watch the Snuka jump off the cage, it was very carefully done, with Muraco ready for the impact. Mick Foley tried to top it, spawning an era daredevils. And then there's Always Injured Wrestling, doing it on regular shows.
Also prefaced by the incredible moment where Jimmy Snuka held everyone in Madison Square Garden spellbound by lunging from the top of the cage at the prostrate Bob Backlund...and missing the dive entirely!🤔😮🎤🤼♂️B.W.
@@madbrowniac7871 didn't Albano make him do that? I didn't attend the Snuka-Backlund match but did attend the Snuka-Muraco one.
He might have. I need to check up on that. Mick Foley and The Undertaker plunging from atop HIAC in Pittsburgh is a headlock compared to more recent stunt tumbles by everyone from Kevin Owens to 62 year old Sting to Miss Julia Hart. And the goal industrywide is just to amp everything up.🤔😔🎤🤼♀️🤼♂️B.W.
Oh tremendous Longterm Storytelling when Snuka met Muraco as Snuka had Turned Face by that time.🤔🎤🤼♂️B.W.
And when "Captain" Lou Albano Managed Jimmy Snuka Albano was Booked as a complete jerk. There was the famous WWWF era episode of "Rogers's Corner" where according to the Script Buddy Rogers pointed out that Albano was straight up skimming Snuka's bankroll. Snuka and Albano fell out ingloriously shortly thereafter.🤔😂🎤💸🤼♂️B.W.
I still don't know how Mick Foley got up from that HIC match off the top to this day. Then the choke slam through he too onto the chair then back body drop on thumbtacks all in one match.
Yeah he did a lot of hardcore matches with the barbwire ropes against funk but man
Different match.
1. Undertaker HIAC. Gets thrown off. Climbs back up. Gets chokeslammed through. Then chokeslammed on tacks.
2. HHH HIAC. Suplexes HHH on cell. Hits HHH with burning 2X4. Tries to piledrive H on cell, but H backdrops him through it. As he goes through, he hits the back of his head on one of the beams of the cell roof a half a second before he drops. Then he eats a pedigree. Kicks out. H gives him another one on the tacks.
Hasn't AEW said that they don't have a training center?
Khan 3:16 says, I just broke my action figures neck!
Didn't Big E break his neck on WWE TV or we act like that didn't happen??
@@kenrickeason it wasn't Big E himself. It was the idiot who was just in a tag team title match at Crown Jewel.
Jim is Brilliant
Booker T is 100% correct. We saw that with regards to Hangnail Adam Page and various other talents in AEW. The AEW Stans and Booker of the Year's inept abilities as a booker are both enabling this to continue.
If someone dies during a live show because of a botched move, it should be the end of the AEW experiment.
I have been saying this exact thing for years. I am so worried AEW is gonna have an Owen Hart or Droz type situation.
Tony Khan is Vince McMahon
Jim and Brian singing Athena deserves an encore.
Nobody watched Booker T. Every time Booker T came on tv, the ratings dropped.
Watch Bobby Lashley hit his spear against ANYONE. I'd take that thing. He's so in control of that massive frame of his, it's impressive. He rolls with the impact, and it looks incredibly safe if you know what you're looking for.
Good points. I've been disappointed with Sting's run but then I also realize I'd be crushed if Sting got hurt real bad.
I wonder how much guys like him and Jake, Arn, JR etc have tried to talk some sense into these guys about what it supposed to look like. It’s disappointing either way. Either they don’t say anything or they aren’t listening.
Jim Cornette tells it like it is
I love Booker!!!!!!
You like people like himaaaaahhhhh ...
You like the WWE shill Booker T? That tells me you are nothing but a partisan hack
Book trained Ember, Sammy Guevara, and Roxanne Perez who might be the safest and most coachable of the three.
I don’t recall Athena being this wreckless on the indies nor WWE. It seems more of an AEW thing in which she’s trying to make the big powerful move.
The Usos as well!
The 1's in the better company
@@mattb6616 this
I get Booker T point but Big E broke his neck on WWE not even a year ago with a simple move. It's not just AEW and it's not just insane matches guys are getting hurt.
@@NhBleker Yep. Multiple injuries from one match. Lets not forget about Madcap Moss's incident where it literally almost broke his neck as well as many others.
Dr Death in All Japan is some horrifically irresponsible shit but most of the blame for that should go on Baba and Misawa since Baba should have told them to stop doing that and Misawa started it and then demanded other guys do it to get pushed.
Booker t taking credit for training Athena...poorly
Lots of people are trained properly. Doesn’t mean they always stick to it. People often go back to their old bad habits.
Where did the race card come from?
the cesspool that Jim swims in, called Twitter.
@@takerdust Jim isn’t racist, he calls out anyone who works unsafe
@@elmaster27428 i know, but he gets the occasional weirdo on twitter which is why he mentioned it on here.
Atp I’m just praying that Hobbs, mjf, starks, and ftr stay far away from these indie guys and if they have to work with they can tell them no to their crazy spots.
I'm sure they won't do that stupid shit. Unfortunately, they'll be ostracized further as the Bucks and Olivier reassert their power.
Braun vs Omos just had a decent match, and it definitely didn't need any of them doing top rope spots and swanton bombs.
I like how he didn't deny the racist part
Everyone gets mad at Booker T for his opinion now but he makes a good point. Of course the Freakazoids lose their minds.
Brian sings too now! Yes!! 😂❤
Basically Booker T is saying "I didn't train her like that". Ember Moon in NXT is a lot different from Athena in AEW. And she should be better with 3 wrestling companies under her belt
BT forgot to end his statement with
SUCKA!
Damn just had add for dogs peanut butter box during this video. Too bad wasn't sponcer so Jim could have led into . Would have liked to heard what he has to say on dogs and peanut butter!
So, when is Jim going to put out an album? I can see it now, on his website: Jim Cornette "Sings" The Hits....with "Sings" in quotation marks for a reason! It's a license to print money, Corney. Just send me 5% of the proceeds for the idea and we'll call it square.
Big E literally broke his neck in WWE. It's not just an AEW issue.
Big E broke his neck in a botched move that has been done thousands of times. AEW takes the time not to make sure people are safe and what happens to the victim of the move wasnt because they botched the move but that they threw caution to the wind and injure each other when honestly it didnt have to be like that if they thought about it even slightly. Big E did a spot and couldnt push himself over enought to land on his back after the other wrestler released him too early. VERY VERY different than doing a move that goes wrong because they didnt do the stunt correctly on purpose. Or like Adam Cold who got injured because he is a brittle bitch.
4th. Look at me i am 4th ... i am special, please praise me for my typing skills.... good thing i was notified of the video and immediately thought i should assert myself by being first or second or third or 28th..... who cares!!!!!!!!!
Jim's head on backwards. Lol
5:40 yep Jim the worse that will happen is after Darby kills himself in the ring, Tony Khan will add a Darby memorial tournament, in addition to the Owen Hart tournament.
I think anyone with even a quarter brain would come to realize just how dangerous AEW's matches are especially with the weekly injury build up. The only person that either doesn't see it nor possibly not care seems to be Tony Khan because he's the obvious single person in that company that can easily pull the plug on what people are doing. But I have a feeling he encourages that crap just based on the nonsensical stupid stipulation matches that happen nearly every week. I really believe that Tony Khan thinks that if one of his wrestlers (or even the indy people he brings in for those awful dark matches) gets injured, his attitude is like, "Oh, I'll just use my dad's money to fix it and hire more people because I'm rich." I really believe that's his attitude towards this situation.
I mean, how can you not see the weekly occurrence of almost one injury minimal? It's really bothersome for me. I enjoy the violence of pro-wrestling but not where it's just a car wreck of a match which is what the average AEW looks like. There's no real art to the so-called modern style. There's no build, no momentum, the lack of selling, etc. And I think it de-sensitizes people over time because you've either seen it or you expect the thing to be topped.
And I recall hearing from Regal himself on one of these podcast (might've been with Jericho) where he talks about the Misawa Mitsuharu incident. Regal mentioned how he had hoped that situation would have smartened up the wrestlers at large. Instead, they're still doing the dangerous stuff. Look at Ohtani and how he's paralyzed. That guy was really talented but he shouldn't have done that bump, not at his age. I remember people complaining about one of Ohtani's weaknesses being lack of psychology and to me that's proof right there (Misawa had good psychology but not enough smarts to avoid doing progressively dangerous stuff). Then you see Kingston dropping guys on their head and he worships people like Misawa and Kobashi. So that's your issue right there.
For the people on those dark matches, I think they're told if they want to get on TV, then they have to make the most of it (I believe QT Marshall might've said this). So that might be misconstrued by the talent as being, "Okay, here's my chance so I better go all out since I might get a contract." Like with that indy girl Athena wrestled, her attitude was like, "I need to just go along and keep quiet" while Athena supposedly wanted to show how she could get heat because it was that indy girl's home town. Well, tossing someone on the outside like that isn't heat. It's just plain reckless (of course, this all could be a lie and Athena was pissed at the girl so hard to say). But it's not a good look on Athena's part especially because it'll make less people want to work with her in the future.
For myself, I simply won't watch if things continue like this. I'll admit that I used to watch the "outlaw mudshow" Japanese women's shows when I lived in Japan. But even the first one I went to I saw some poor young girl injure herself for almost no one in the audience. There were a few shows that I saw some really bad injuries, including one where some pretty much untrained girl tumbled and landed on her neck and basically ended her career. It was hard watching things like that and I can't imagine being a fan seeing someone that's a legend like Misawa dying in front of you. If I were at that show, I would've permanently stopped watching wrestling because that's too disturbing.
And though I rip on a lot of the AEW wrestlers for having bad matches, in general, I don't want to see them get injured doing stupid stuff. It's really disheartening watching someone legit going out on a stretcher. I realize that it's going to happen from time-to-time but when the frequency is virtually every week, I don't want to see that moment where it's another Misawa situation again.
I have a feeling that a lot of the talent are doing the ridiculous spots because the little time they get on TV they know that it's their only and rare opportunity to make and impression.
The consistent display of multiple high spots on every performance (WWE included) makes me appreciate Bret Hart even more.
Man how long before we get another Darren drozdof or sid vicious incident in AEW
Stephen p New commercial is the best thing going today
I dont blame Athena or the other wrestlers. They need to constatly show off and AEW set a bar too high. Now if they produce a "normal" match the fan would think that it's the worst match they ever seen. Look at Yuta. They gave him the match of a lifetime vs Moxley..That was a level of performance that a Bryan should pull off at WM 30 after one of the biggest story in wrestling. That was on taped Rampage... Yuta will never look better than that, unless he tries to break his neck.
Booker T worked during the Monday Night War, and the spots got higher and higher. The vets said it to him and he's passing the wisdom down.
I personally think that after TLC 3 things got impossible to top and that's when Vince made an executive decision to reset things.
Tony Khan doesn't seem to care -- which is the most disturbing part of this story.
Darenn Dasdrov got paralyzed on Monday night raw. Right??
Fluke accident
The difference is football players all at least make $1 million dollars and they all have insurance and the teams will take care of everything. Now if you cut your self up and fuck with glass and fire for $50 that's just crazy.
Facts !!!!
Tony Khan doesn’t know how to run his electric toothbrush let alone a GOD DAM WRESTLING COMPANY!!
I seen the match, the Chic that got dropped out of the ring, then Power dropped kicked by Amber moon, that's her style of matches, I've seen her on different indie promotions getting the same type of moves done on her by male and female wrestlers. But I totally understand Jim's point.
There’s no doubt people take more risks now. Chuckles making it a one company problem is laughable, it’s an industry wide thing.
I think a judge would throw out if the network was sues since it's not like wcw where the network owned it.
Booker T ended Rick Martel’s career.
In Athena's case what she did was almost as bad as what sexy star did to Rosemary. She shouldn't be working for that company right now she should have been fired and future endeavored