I got ahold of some for like half price, I love them lol but the gamestore I went to didn't have many or else I would've stocked up because I need more sleeves lol but most of my extra decks are in white dragonshields and my trad format dragon deck in red dragonshields (that one is just to flex with my duel terminal BEWDs, secret rare mirror force, etc). I wish I could've gotten more lol
Sleeves are prohibited in competitive ygo tournaments. If you watch the anime, nobody uses sleeves. Coincidence? I dont think so. Commenters dont understand Ygo sleeves when?
I've personally had issues with them being too tight, to a point where I had damaged a card trying to simply sleeve it, and they shuffled fucking horribly... never had any issues with standard size ones, but the yugioh sized ones are horrible.
Yo I just started using Dragon Shield sleeves a week or two ago and damn they’re great. They’re a bit more expensive but I really think you get what you pay for
@Ze TheGame You for real, bruh? I haven't seen that video in a while, but I seem to remember him mentioning that it's a straight +1 with no cost that can and would be played in every deck. Like, what more is there really?
The original KMC Hypermat and Dragonshields is what me and my boys use and we literally never have issues. I dont know if Ultrapro sleeves have changed but we stopped using them after all the ones we had started to split.
Dragon’s Shield is my personal choice for all of my sleeping needs. Give it a try! That or Ultimate Guard. Depends on whether you want a more protective sleeve or a better shuffle.
Happy to see I’m not the only one who’s crazy about this kind of thing. For my collection that I’ve been building up, I’ve been using the KMC sleeves with the perfect fits inside. 1st batch of inner sleeves I got though were cut short that they just barely cover the card. Been fine since, but I still want to resleeve those first ones.
Thanks for cutting down on the ads man, this is much better. I often pass on watching your stuff because the ads are so obnoxious and I don’t have time to keep skipping over and over while I’m working.
I use ultra pros too same ones as you. The white ultra pros have such a spot in my heart bc the old ones with the logo in the top corner, was like THE pro sleeve to use back in the day
I 100% know what you mean with the miscut sleeves, I get this with ultimate guard sleeves and had it before with Ultra Pro sleeves likes 3 years ago, it is frustrating to have like 15 sleeves go to waste because of miscut and then your 2 packs of 50 sleeves you have 70 and not 100 which is kind of fine in the grand schemes of things since you only need 55 really but if you needed 75 for 60 main + side or 40 main + 15 side + extra you are kind of screwed. It is highly annoying to just throw away sleeves because they are miscut a lot.
Dude, get yourself some dragon shield sleeves. Dragon shields for Yu-Gi-Oh use to be terrible, but they've made a lot of changes over the last couple years and they are legitimately the best sleeves out there. I love them.
i used to use ultrapro because they were what everystore haved, was cheap and i really dont care but i had too many problems and changed to UltimateGuard and i love them they are really smooth and durable i have ones one year old and still use them for pre realese, drafts, etc and they are still good
Speaking of cards floating to the top of sleeves. Ever since I’ve seen deck profiles from yugitubers I have noticed that nearly all of them always have their cards near the top of the sleeve and are rarely ever pushed all the way in. I’ve been trying to look for a reason for this, but I’ve had no luck. Is there a reason to not push your cards all the way to the bottom of sleeves?
No i dont think so, they probably just dont have the time/forget to push every card in. Also, if theyre doing lots of deck profiles and handling lots of cards they probably lose track of which cards are floating to the top and which are not
Dragon shields are much better than ultra pro IMHO. The sleeves have a much better fit and finish and is much, much more consistent in terms of quality.
Kmc hyper matte mini has really let me down as of late. Ive loved and used the sleeves for several years. The newer sleeves feel cheaper and are easier to break and split. I've noticed a lot of warping and miscut. Even worse, I've noticed I can see the back of the cards through the white sleeves which I couldn't before. This change happened within the past few months and so I use dragon shield now
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This was very helpful. As a player starting to get back into Yugioh and making decks again. I don't want anything that could get me in trouble, if I decided to go to a tournament.
Ultra pro are inconsistant, some packs of sleeves are miscut some arent, regardless of being eclipses or not. Dragon shield are the best although I have to say I had some issues lately due to the sleeves being too small for the cards, I mean the cards fit but you kinda have to force them in and it doesn't feel good at all, especially with the super slim and floppy European print cards. The only solution is to widen them up beforehand using 2 commons together, works perfectly but you shouldn't have to work on your sleeves after you buy them. Ultimate guard never gave me problems but the feel doesnt hold against dragon shields, but that's a matter of opinion
I still have these sleeves that I love that I got when I was in middle school (Back in like 05 I think). They were like a shiny red color and had this grainy texture look to them. Sadly they got worn and the edges frayed from so much use. I decided to stop using them because of that, but they lasted me a long time.
vindication. i've never had a problem with UP gloss sleeves, but one of my decks kept sliding to the top. and i realised the sleeves were like 1mm shorter than my other decks. its enough of a difference that my cards are almost always exposed at the top
yea I started to have this problem all the time, so I switched to dragon shield matte and non matte. the front side is always clear the shuffling feel is just different. I use matte on my main deck and non matte for the extra. Works beautifully
Ultrapro kept getting worse with most of their products, back in the day their yugioh sized sleeves were pretty durable, and their textured deck boxes were pretty solidly constructed. Their sleeves nowadays break just from shuffling, and their boxes are way flimsier than they used to be especially compared to Ultimate Guard or Gamegenic's same style boxes. Even the Dual deck box which I used to like is mostly discontinued, while I think other companies have made versions of the box now.
I know this video is 3 years old but it is weird seeing him say Ultrapro is a premium sleeve. Seeing as now they are cheap sleeves and rip real easy. Ultimate Guard Katana and Dragon Guard are now the premium sleeves. And I refuse to use anything else. And my Gamegenic box is so worth the money. Can bring 2 decks and my dice too.
I'd also say Dragon Shield's are what you're looking for, matte back, glossy front to show off the card/foil, and quality that has never strayed from amazing since i've been using them for atleast 10 years or so.
So when i buy new sleeves, i tend to buy 3 packages, one for main, one for side and cards iam experiementing with, and one just for backup in generall. So i came to the same issue, i used the one package for my main, perfectly fine, but the second package for side and experiements was completly miscut, every second card poked out and i can really see that being an issue
I also use the Ultimate Guard Supreme Sleeves. Later your gonna notice that the extra clear ones are going to get a lot of scratches on the clear side. It really catches the eye.
As an avid user of Ultra Pro Eclipses, I am looking for an alternative since about a month ago. I have had, and used, the same set of sleeves on my main deck since I got back into Yugioh last June. They still shuffle, play, and feel great. But since they are so old, I want to make sure I don't get called on it for tournament play, I've been having to pick up a fresh set of sleeves recently. Compared to all the Eclipses I've picked up over the past year, the new sleeves are visibly different and the deck's core cards now standout from the new sleeves I've picked up since the turn of the year. Not only this, but for the first time, out of about 15+ sets of these sleeves, I have had multiple sleeves crack after only a month of use. This is insane in my mind when compared to the durability of the year old sleeves. I've been waiting for Ultimate Guard's new Katana Line of sleeves to come out in small size (Japanese size, as mentioned in the video) and will test those out before deciding on migrating my collection over to them or Dragon Shields. Hopefully Ultimate Guard can use this as an opportunity to take advantage of their competative's fault and capitalize in the premium sleeve market.
Only 1:30 into the video and I knew it was going to be ultra pro. I use to use them a lot for MtG as they were pretty cheap to pick up if I didn't bring any at a draft or sealed event. I had no issues with draft/sealed decks since they don't get played much if at all after the event. The few standard decks I built with them had several split sleeves after some use, to the point I always made sure to have a couple extra on me at any given time. I bought 2 or 3, 80 or 100 sleeve packs (i forget exactly how many sleeves, but enough to sleeve 200 cards or so) once to sleeve up a small cube and like a third of the sleeves or more were miss-cut to varying degrees of 1-2mm. It was kinda insane how inconsistent they were. Edit: lol yeah, exact same issue, horribly miss-cut sleeves.
Honestly I've had this same issue before deciding to swallow my pride on the matte finish and use eclipse sleeves. I also like that you can't see through them at all because some non matte sleeves are a little translucent through the back.
>Ultra Pro There's your problem right there. The only sleeves even close to a C grade by Ultra Pro have been their Eclipse sleeves. And I'm not sure they come in Yugi size. Just roll with Dragon Shield or Ultimate Guard like the rest of us. You said it yourself, sleeves are the most important accessory, so why skimp on them?
I know the miscut thing was a common issue with early runs of Ultra Pro Eclipses. Personally, I'd recommend trying out Dragon Shield sleeves. While I'm not a fan of their standard-size sleeves for Magic, I love their smaller sleeves for Yugioh. They even have matte sleeves *without* a frosted front if you want the matte shuffle feel without the slight fogginess. Also I'm not surprised that Ultimate Guard has a line of sleeves that are basically just the old Ultra Pro sleeves, since they *also* just released a line that's basically just the old KMC Hyper Matt sleeves
My only guess on Ultimate Guard not saying Yu-Gi-Oh on the box is because it could be used for different games with same-sized cards. Their website mentions it's compatible with Yu-Gi-Oh, DBZ, and Naruto. I imagine it could be compatible with some board games as well.
reminds me of one of my old decks where i can always find my super rare polymerization because the sleeve is ever so slightly larger than the rest despite the fact that all the sleeves came from the same pack (ultra-pro non-matte red)
How often do you find you have to replace a deck’s sleeves because of dust collecting inside them? My Blue-Eyes deck seems to gather dust quite quickly (despite, ironically, the fact I use that deck the most) so I end up changing the sleeves all too frequently and discarding the old sleeves which seems really wasteful. :/
The matte sleeves are good for cutting down glare. It’s all preferences, mostly. Anything outside of their eclipse line tends to have that problem. The old dragon sleeves from 2006-2007 were awful when it came to inconsistency like those ultra pros and there were a lot of ultra pros that were backwards.
I have that issue too. UltraPro is what I’ve been using since the beginning of the card game, but lately I noticed that the sleeves have been very crude, there’s a noticeable downgrade in quality for me as well, but I still really like how they look when used, cards do look really foggy for most other brands, which can make cards a bit more of a pain in the ass to read. Really sucks that they’ve been slacking with their quality, because I absolutely love the color variety they offer.
I use Dragon Shield for my decks but all my spare Super Rare+ cards I usually keep in clear Ultimate Guard Sleeves. They're pretty slippery but they work pretty great. Where I'm at they're usually cheaper than Ultra-Pro sleeves too by like a buck, but stores hardly carry Japanese size of them. :/
Yeah there has been some sort of manufacturing issue. There is an OTS near me that got a box of the regular Ultra Pro non-matte sleeves, the cheapest ones, and there were matte sleeves mixed in. So they have a couple of issues going on.
Dzeef, do you have any experience with Dragon Shield sleeves? I'm no pro, but I love them, think they feel good, and the colours/patterns are great! I would recommend them, worth a look at the very least :)
When it comes to yugioh especially judging, some judges will be super petty about miscut sleeves and typically give you either a warning or a game loss because they can consider it as deck stacking. Thats why I personally dont use Ultra pro sleeves for competitive use, more so collection use
Bushiroad makes really nice card sleeves with artworks for Cardfight Vanguard but they get stiff really quick unless you double sleeve which I hate doing so I stooped using them.
As someone who has been using sleeves for a few years as well, I would really recommend Ultimate Guard as well. Up until now, I've used Ultra Pro matte sleeves since I don't mind the front display of the card looking a little frosted so long as they're readable and safe. Ultimate Guard however, just has better quality control in my experience and is better for my wallet.
i may be in the minority here but i actually enjoy the slightly tinted finish on the front of pro mattes. in multiplayer magic formats (where i use them most) it feels like a little extra protection against hand peelers.
Switched from UltraPro to Ultimate Guard while I was in Germany cuz that's just what they had available at the card shop and I havent gone back since. They are so good!
The primary purpose of card sleeves, aside from differentiating your own cards from your opponents', is keeping your cards from being considered marked due to damage and tearing around the edges. Having subtle differences between your cards is undoubtedly using marked cards. This really can be a huge problem for competitive play.
Thoughts on Player's Choice? Personally those are my favorite as of right now. Also glad to see someone finally talking about sleeve issues, this is definitely something that needs to be addressed.
I had the same problem I have tried so many different sleeves and they all suck I have some really strange brands of sleeves coming in just to try them out
Don't know if you'll read this, but your experience with Ultra Pro is pretty interesting actually. I use the exact same sleeves you do, but none of mine are miscut. The ones I checked were from several different packs and bought over the last 6 months too. I do live in Europe though, so maybe that's a factor? I don't know where UP manufactures their sleeves and whether they have different sites. Maybe I'm just lucky.
I use ultra pros as well and have noticed all of the same things as you. I got some more of the eclipse ones because even though they are a bit foggy they are the nicest ones to play with in my experience. I managed to pick them up for a third of the normal retail price too!
I always used to use ultrapro when I played and never had any issues, but I recently came back into the game after 4 years and bought 2 packs of their new sleeves and have noticed the same thing right away. It's weird and frustrating
Dragon shield matte sleeves are the best sleeves out there. Feel great shuffle great and unlike ultrapro they don't stick together,which can lead to "double draws" as well as the one you point out the sleeves tend to be bigger.
KMC is basically matte sleeves. The back has a texture that won't make it slip. I like KMC's but using Ultra Pro Eclipse Pro mattes to match my deck box and setup. But side deck is still KMC
(All sleeves in the Main and Side Decks must be identical in terms of color, wear, and design, and all cards must be placed into sleeves in the same direction and manner.)
@@callummandragore9004 Ic ic, I wasn't hallucinating when I thought: Isn't it better for the main and side to be the same color so you don't waste time sleeving and unsleeving?
Jimmy pretty sure that if you’re running extra deck cards in the side deck you’ll have to run the same colour sleeves in all main side and extra decks Having different coloured sleeves in the extra deck is optional but having the same coloured sleeves in the main and side deck is mandatory according to tournament policy Pretty sure nobody would bad an eyelid at locals though if you had an extra deck coloured sleeve in your side deck but if you wanted to do that at a tier 2 event, ask the head judge before the event because getting a game loss for marked cards during a deck check for this would be ridiculous
I double seleve my extra deck so its easier to separate during play plus it makes it hard for people to steal and or it get mixed into your own deck or your opponents deck you can find it easy. My main deck I only use ultra pro non mat seleves they are only 3$. Cheap is what I like because it means that they are easy to replace. As far as getting a deck check it's not like the miss cut matters all that much as long as you are not using that to cheat which would be pretty hard and damn near impossible because it's all just small imperfections. It's not super noticeable unless you are looking and I don't really think that the miss cut is going to affect shuffling in any way. If they are all like that yes it might be iritating to look at or not so much look but the feel. What I'm trying to say is you work with what you got unless you can find a better option that's still affordable and ideally won't give you the same issues.
Better title: Dzeef rambling about sleeves just so he can flex with his ultimate rare cards
THis is so true. I was thinking that same thing!
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Even flexing his Supreme card sleeves can't believe they got Dzeef too. Nothing is sacred
Weird flex but okay
Dzeef purposefully devalues the price of the sleeves so he can get them for cheaper
"Why everyone should buy anime waifu sleeves"
@@azcatec. bruh
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@@BootlegYakuzaYT the comment got deleted but I regret it
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Dragon shields bruh. Super durable and prevent cards from warping
And the cards dont ride up
I got ahold of some for like half price, I love them lol but the gamestore I went to didn't have many or else I would've stocked up because I need more sleeves lol but most of my extra decks are in white dragonshields and my trad format dragon deck in red dragonshields (that one is just to flex with my duel terminal BEWDs, secret rare mirror force, etc). I wish I could've gotten more lol
Erick Ortiz The only thing I dislike about DragonSleeves is how god damn sharp the corners are. Other than that, really good.
Dragon Shields are good but they definitely won’t stop the foil warp lol
Stops the warp hmmmm dont think so I'm looking at 1 right now but I dont think any sleeve stops that
i really liked mine, but they split on the side. bought some red ones and had 5+ sleeves split while sleeving a new deck
Sleeves are prohibited in competitive ygo tournaments. If you watch the anime, nobody uses sleeves. Coincidence? I dont think so.
Commenters dont understand Ygo sleeves when?
“Sleeves are prohibited in competitive ygo tournaments.” Excuse me the fuck did you just say?
If that happened no one would go to tournaments because after 16 rounds their cards would be destroyed.
@@SatanicWren the joke
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Kaiba used them as a concusive projectile. Clearly they were made of animenium, ours are just paper.
according to these comments; I should really try dragon shield
ultra pro is fine dont believe them
@@jakesez4839 ultra pro is possibly the worst sleeves ive ever used
@@tyllisvfx ”Standare Pro-Matte Light Blue”is this one for example good?
Just use dragon shield mattes, they are matte only on the back, front is clear and shuffle feel is amazing
Ive heard a lot of problems with them in person but everyone always praises them online
Seconded, best sleeves out there
I've personally had issues with them being too tight, to a point where I had damaged a card trying to simply sleeve it, and they shuffled fucking horribly... never had any issues with standard size ones, but the yugioh sized ones are horrible.
@@SaltedNeos yeah same, I'm more a fan of their gloss ones, specifically the art sleeves
chimchar2006 I find the tend to loosen up after a cards put into then taken out of them.
no dragon shields? i live and die by those, my all time fave in matte.
Yo I just started using Dragon Shield sleeves a week or two ago and damn they’re great. They’re a bit more expensive but I really think you get what you pay for
This. I'm a vendor and I also love and die by Dragonshields. Cannot reccomend enough
Matte black dragon shields are butter smooth. I love them
The only negative I had about dragon shield is the white ones pick up and hold grime really easy but the other colors I don't notice
My locals only have them in the larger size for Magic😥.
Imo best sleeves are dragon shields (either style) or ultimate guard UX sleeves. KMC Hyper Mats are great too
I have just switched to dragon shields from ultra pro. The durability of the dragon shields is very impressive.
My locals only sell dragon shield and they are pretty GOOD
I literally have like 7 different dragon shield sleeves and non of them have disappointed me. Only thing is that they’re kinda pricey lol
Dragon shield mattes are nice. Very durable and only the back is matte and textured
Just make every card out of stainless steel
Pretty sure they are in the anime lol. They can throw them like weapons.
@Dragonlord DarkSpyro gotta get fit somehow
Try dragon shield sleeves
RIP: A Trick Up the Sleeve (Arkana's Duel Links Skill).
I recently discovered Ultimate Guard sleeves and I love them so much. They just feel right. Ultra Pro is great but I don't think I want to go back.
It just hits me that this is such a nerdy first world problem
@@CDolph296 I can't believe it, but he actually is
Lol it is such a first world problem
@Ze TheGame You for real, bruh? I haven't seen that video in a while, but I seem to remember him mentioning that it's a straight +1 with no cost that can and would be played in every deck. Like, what more is there really?
Hyper mat sleeves have never let me down, and they last a lot longer than any other brand I've used, they also feel very nice
The original KMC Hypermat and Dragonshields is what me and my boys use and we literally never have issues. I dont know if Ultrapro sleeves have changed but we stopped using them after all the ones we had started to split.
Dragon’s Shield is my personal choice for all of my sleeping needs. Give it a try! That or Ultimate Guard. Depends on whether you want a more protective sleeve or a better shuffle.
Sleeping.... Ehehe
Commenters don't understand card sleeves.
Happy to see I’m not the only one who’s crazy about this kind of thing. For my collection that I’ve been building up, I’ve been using the KMC sleeves with the perfect fits inside. 1st batch of inner sleeves I got though were cut short that they just barely cover the card. Been fine since, but I still want to resleeve those first ones.
I love the Ultimate Guard sleeves because the don’t stick together after a long time of playing and they don’t get dirty as fast as other sleeves
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Thanks for cutting down on the ads man, this is much better. I often pass on watching your stuff because the ads are so obnoxious and I don’t have time to keep skipping over and over while I’m working.
Ultimate guard popped up and just took the market by storm. i cannot wait until they make japanese/ygo sized Katana sleeves
I use ultra pros too same ones as you. The white ultra pros have such a spot in my heart bc the old ones with the logo in the top corner, was like THE pro sleeve to use back in the day
I 100% know what you mean with the miscut sleeves, I get this with ultimate guard sleeves and had it before with Ultra Pro sleeves likes 3 years ago, it is frustrating to have like 15 sleeves go to waste because of miscut and then your 2 packs of 50 sleeves you have 70 and not 100 which is kind of fine in the grand schemes of things since you only need 55 really but if you needed 75 for 60 main + side or 40 main + 15 side + extra you are kind of screwed. It is highly annoying to just throw away sleeves because they are miscut a lot.
Dude, get yourself some dragon shield sleeves.
Dragon shields for Yu-Gi-Oh use to be terrible, but they've made a lot of changes over the last couple years and they are legitimately the best sleeves out there. I love them.
I've found Dragon Shield and Ultimate Guard are the best.
Eclipse are actual garbage and will break before you finish day 1
Blaguard dude how rough are you with your cards
Ultra pro are a little fragile, yes, but not nearly that bad
I must be seeing the wrong Dragon Shields because all the ones I've seen are worse than artwork sleeves
Yes 100% to this! Agreed!!!
How do you destroy Ultra Pros in a day. You bringing them in WW3 or something?!
I mean you’re probably best off changing for day 2 anyway in case your sleeves get marked
i used to use ultrapro because they were what everystore haved, was cheap and i really dont care but i had too many problems and changed to UltimateGuard and i love them they are really smooth and durable i have ones one year old and still use them for pre realese, drafts, etc and they are still good
What bout dragon sheild
Speaking of cards floating to the top of sleeves. Ever since I’ve seen deck profiles from yugitubers I have noticed that nearly all of them always have their cards near the top of the sleeve and are rarely ever pushed all the way in. I’ve been trying to look for a reason for this, but I’ve had no luck. Is there a reason to not push your cards all the way to the bottom of sleeves?
people just dont care about floating haha if you tapp the deck down it usually keeps them down
No i dont think so, they probably just dont have the time/forget to push every card in. Also, if theyre doing lots of deck profiles and handling lots of cards they probably lose track of which cards are floating to the top and which are not
They don't put them back down because they will just come back up.
Dragon shields are much better than ultra pro IMHO. The sleeves have a much better fit and finish and is much, much more consistent in terms of quality.
Kmc hyper matte mini has really let me down as of late. Ive loved and used the sleeves for several years. The newer sleeves feel cheaper and are easier to break and split. I've noticed a lot of warping and miscut. Even worse, I've noticed I can see the back of the cards through the white sleeves which I couldn't before. This change happened within the past few months and so I use dragon shield now
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UltraPro always like splits in half after a few months for me, and are often miscut between two packs of sleeves. In my experience at least.
Have you tried Dragon Shield??
This was very helpful. As a player starting to get back into Yugioh and making decks again. I don't want anything that could get me in trouble, if I decided to go to a tournament.
i love the non-matte sleeves as well. The foggyness just ruins the card color for me
I use Dragon Shield Sleeves, only about 10$ for 100 sleeves and they feel really nice and durable too.
Ultra pro are inconsistant, some packs of sleeves are miscut some arent, regardless of being eclipses or not.
Dragon shield are the best although I have to say I had some issues lately due to the sleeves being too small for the cards, I mean the cards fit but you kinda have to force them in and it doesn't feel good at all, especially with the super slim and floppy European print cards. The only solution is to widen them up beforehand using 2 commons together, works perfectly but you shouldn't have to work on your sleeves after you buy them.
Ultimate guard never gave me problems but the feel doesnt hold against dragon shields, but that's a matter of opinion
*card sleeve stock prices drop and nerds at Wall Street jump out windows*
I still have these sleeves that I love that I got when I was in middle school (Back in like 05 I think). They were like a shiny red color and had this grainy texture look to them. Sadly they got worn and the edges frayed from so much use. I decided to stop using them because of that, but they lasted me a long time.
vindication. i've never had a problem with UP gloss sleeves, but one of my decks kept sliding to the top. and i realised the sleeves were like 1mm shorter than my other decks. its enough of a difference that my cards are almost always exposed at the top
Yep. This is exactly why I stopped using Ultra Pro sleeves. The old Dragon Shields used to have this issue, but not anymore.
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yea I started to have this problem all the time, so I switched to dragon shield matte and non matte. the front side is always clear the shuffling feel is just different. I use matte on my main deck and non matte for the extra. Works beautifully
Ultrapro kept getting worse with most of their products, back in the day their yugioh sized sleeves were pretty durable, and their textured deck boxes were pretty solidly constructed. Their sleeves nowadays break just from shuffling, and their boxes are way flimsier than they used to be especially compared to Ultimate Guard or Gamegenic's same style boxes. Even the Dual deck box which I used to like is mostly discontinued, while I think other companies have made versions of the box now.
I know this video is 3 years old but it is weird seeing him say Ultrapro is a premium sleeve. Seeing as now they are cheap sleeves and rip real easy. Ultimate Guard Katana and Dragon Guard are now the premium sleeves. And I refuse to use anything else. And my Gamegenic box is so worth the money. Can bring 2 decks and my dice too.
I'd also say Dragon Shield's are what you're looking for, matte back, glossy front to show off the card/foil, and quality that has never strayed from amazing since i've been using them for atleast 10 years or so.
Does YGO official events still ban double sleeving? I always found that to be a silly rule that would fix so many sleeve issues.
So when i buy new sleeves, i tend to buy 3 packages, one for main, one for side and cards iam experiementing with, and one just for backup in generall. So i came to the same issue, i used the one package for my main, perfectly fine, but the second package for side and experiements was completly miscut, every second card poked out and i can really see that being an issue
I also use the Ultimate Guard Supreme Sleeves. Later your gonna notice that the extra clear ones are going to get a lot of scratches on the clear side. It really catches the eye.
As an avid user of Ultra Pro Eclipses, I am looking for an alternative since about a month ago. I have had, and used, the same set of sleeves on my main deck since I got back into Yugioh last June. They still shuffle, play, and feel great. But since they are so old, I want to make sure I don't get called on it for tournament play, I've been having to pick up a fresh set of sleeves recently.
Compared to all the Eclipses I've picked up over the past year, the new sleeves are visibly different and the deck's core cards now standout from the new sleeves I've picked up since the turn of the year. Not only this, but for the first time, out of about 15+ sets of these sleeves, I have had multiple sleeves crack after only a month of use. This is insane in my mind when compared to the durability of the year old sleeves.
I've been waiting for Ultimate Guard's new Katana Line of sleeves to come out in small size (Japanese size, as mentioned in the video) and will test those out before deciding on migrating my collection over to them or Dragon Shields. Hopefully Ultimate Guard can use this as an opportunity to take advantage of their competative's fault and capitalize in the premium sleeve market.
Only 1:30 into the video and I knew it was going to be ultra pro. I use to use them a lot for MtG as they were pretty cheap to pick up if I didn't bring any at a draft or sealed event. I had no issues with draft/sealed decks since they don't get played much if at all after the event. The few standard decks I built with them had several split sleeves after some use, to the point I always made sure to have a couple extra on me at any given time. I bought 2 or 3, 80 or 100 sleeve packs (i forget exactly how many sleeves, but enough to sleeve 200 cards or so) once to sleeve up a small cube and like a third of the sleeves or more were miss-cut to varying degrees of 1-2mm. It was kinda insane how inconsistent they were.
Edit: lol yeah, exact same issue, horribly miss-cut sleeves.
Honestly I've had this same issue before deciding to swallow my pride on the matte finish and use eclipse sleeves. I also like that you can't see through them at all because some non matte sleeves are a little translucent through the back.
>Ultra Pro
There's your problem right there. The only sleeves even close to a C grade by Ultra Pro have been their Eclipse sleeves. And I'm not sure they come in Yugi size.
Just roll with Dragon Shield or Ultimate Guard like the rest of us. You said it yourself, sleeves are the most important accessory, so why skimp on them?
This is basically what he said in this video
I know the miscut thing was a common issue with early runs of Ultra Pro Eclipses.
Personally, I'd recommend trying out Dragon Shield sleeves. While I'm not a fan of their standard-size sleeves for Magic, I love their smaller sleeves for Yugioh. They even have matte sleeves *without* a frosted front if you want the matte shuffle feel without the slight fogginess.
Also I'm not surprised that Ultimate Guard has a line of sleeves that are basically just the old Ultra Pro sleeves, since they *also* just released a line that's basically just the old KMC Hyper Matt sleeves
My only guess on Ultimate Guard not saying Yu-Gi-Oh on the box is because it could be used for different games with same-sized cards. Their website mentions it's compatible with Yu-Gi-Oh, DBZ, and Naruto. I imagine it could be compatible with some board games as well.
reminds me of one of my old decks where i can always find my super rare polymerization because the sleeve is ever so slightly larger than the rest despite the fact that all the sleeves came from the same pack (ultra-pro non-matte red)
How often do you find you have to replace a deck’s sleeves because of dust collecting inside them?
My Blue-Eyes deck seems to gather dust quite quickly (despite, ironically, the fact I use that deck the most) so I end up changing the sleeves all too frequently and discarding the old sleeves which seems really wasteful. :/
The Dragon shield matte sleeves are really good don't have the foggy problem with the clear plastic the cards to look pristine in them
There are sleeves that are glossy on the front and matte on the back. I like those because they don’t stick together and they shuffle super easy
The matte sleeves are good for cutting down glare. It’s all preferences, mostly. Anything outside of their eclipse line tends to have that problem. The old dragon sleeves from 2006-2007 were awful when it came to inconsistency like those ultra pros and there were a lot of ultra pros that were backwards.
I have that issue too. UltraPro is what I’ve been using since the beginning of the card game, but lately I noticed that the sleeves have been very crude, there’s a noticeable downgrade in quality for me as well, but I still really like how they look when used, cards do look really foggy for most other brands, which can make cards a bit more of a pain in the ass to read. Really sucks that they’ve been slacking with their quality, because I absolutely love the color variety they offer.
Eclipse sleeves are the ones that look like they should be on Pokémon cards right?
Try double sleeving. You can get fancy inner sleeves and generic outer sleeves to customize the feel and look independently from one another.
I use Dragon Shield for my decks but all my spare Super Rare+ cards I usually keep in clear Ultimate Guard Sleeves. They're pretty slippery but they work pretty great. Where I'm at they're usually cheaper than Ultra-Pro sleeves too by like a buck, but stores hardly carry Japanese size of them. :/
I used to use Player's choice for the longest time but now switched to Ultra Pro Eclipse.
Yeah there has been some sort of manufacturing issue. There is an OTS near me that got a box of the regular Ultra Pro non-matte sleeves, the cheapest ones, and there were matte sleeves mixed in. So they have a couple of issues going on.
Dzeef, do you have any experience with Dragon Shield sleeves? I'm no pro, but I love them, think they feel good, and the colours/patterns are great! I would recommend them, worth a look at the very least :)
When it comes to yugioh especially judging, some judges will be super petty about miscut sleeves and typically give you either a warning or a game loss because they can consider it as deck stacking. Thats why I personally dont use Ultra pro sleeves for competitive use, more so collection use
Bushiroad makes really nice card sleeves with artworks for Cardfight Vanguard but they get stiff really quick unless you double sleeve which I hate doing so I stooped using them.
Wait.... Bushiroad makes stuff for Cardfight Vanguard? I know them as the Love Live SIF company
Bushiroad is the creator of Cardfight Vanguard.
As someone who has been using sleeves for a few years as well, I would really recommend Ultimate Guard as well. Up until now, I've used Ultra Pro matte sleeves since I don't mind the front display of the card looking a little frosted so long as they're readable and safe. Ultimate Guard however, just has better quality control in my experience and is better for my wallet.
I thought I was nuts when I noticed this in one of my decks... I use the same sleeves, and a couple cards stick out like sore thumbs over the others.
i may be in the minority here but i actually enjoy the slightly tinted finish on the front of pro mattes. in multiplayer magic formats (where i use them most) it feels like a little extra protection against hand peelers.
Switched from UltraPro to Ultimate Guard while I was in Germany cuz that's just what they had available at the card shop and I havent gone back since. They are so good!
The primary purpose of card sleeves, aside from differentiating your own cards from your opponents', is keeping your cards from being considered marked due to damage and tearing around the edges. Having subtle differences between your cards is undoubtedly using marked cards. This really can be a huge problem for competitive play.
First i used those ultra pro sleeves. 2007 i started use mini dragon shield classic sleeves. 2014 i started use mini dragon shield matte sleeves.
Thoughts on Player's Choice? Personally those are my favorite as of right now. Also glad to see someone finally talking about sleeve issues, this is definitely something that needs to be addressed.
Do you find that ultra pros have bends at the back after some play? I am not having this issue with KMC or dragon
I had the same problem I have tried so many different sleeves and they all suck I have some really strange brands of sleeves coming in just to try them out
The blue sleeve at the left, so they are non matte ultra pro sleeve is that right ?
I still wish I could double sleeve YGO cards can be really expensive but no that cheats the rules apparently
Don't know if you'll read this, but your experience with Ultra Pro is pretty interesting actually. I use the exact same sleeves you do, but none of mine are miscut. The ones I checked were from several different packs and bought over the last 6 months too. I do live in Europe though, so maybe that's a factor? I don't know where UP manufactures their sleeves and whether they have different sites. Maybe I'm just lucky.
I use ultra pros as well and have noticed all of the same things as you. I got some more of the eclipse ones because even though they are a bit foggy they are the nicest ones to play with in my experience. I managed to pick them up for a third of the normal retail price too!
I always used to use ultrapro when I played and never had any issues, but I recently came back into the game after 4 years and bought 2 packs of their new sleeves and have noticed the same thing right away. It's weird and frustrating
Dragon shield matte sleeves are the best sleeves out there. Feel great shuffle great and unlike ultrapro they don't stick together,which can lead to "double draws" as well as the one you point out the sleeves tend to be bigger.
I moved away from all the other sleeves and use dragon shield. I do still like the player choice sleeves white ones only.
KMC is basically matte sleeves. The back has a texture that won't make it slip. I like KMC's but using Ultra Pro Eclipse Pro mattes to match my deck box and setup. But side deck is still KMC
Jimmy Do you mean extra deck?
(All sleeves in the Main and Side Decks must be identical in terms of color, wear, and design, and all cards must be placed into sleeves in the same direction and manner.)
@@callummandragore9004 Ic ic, I wasn't hallucinating when I thought: Isn't it better for the main and side to be the same color so you don't waste time sleeving and unsleeving?
@@callummandragore9004 Hm, what if there's an extra deck card in side? I assume it's the same color as the extra?
Jimmy pretty sure that if you’re running extra deck cards in the side deck you’ll have to run the same colour sleeves in all main side and extra decks
Having different coloured sleeves in the extra deck is optional but having the same coloured sleeves in the main and side deck is mandatory according to tournament policy
Pretty sure nobody would bad an eyelid at locals though if you had an extra deck coloured sleeve in your side deck but if you wanted to do that at a tier 2 event, ask the head judge before the event because getting a game loss for marked cards during a deck check for this would be ridiculous
I always believe that starting the video with "is one of, if not the best", is one of, if not the best way to start a video
I just bought an ultra pro White pack of 60 small sleeves, but didn't have this issue, all perfectly sized. Guess I had luck
My Ultra Pro white sleeves also seem miscut too. It is only those ones tho. My other colors seem to be fine.
Are dragon shield sleeves too tight for the cards?
Doesn't the fog provide UV protection?
Pro-Mattes and Eclipse sleeves do affect off-angle viewing/readability, but the improved play is worth it for me personally.
I double seleve my extra deck so its easier to separate during play plus it makes it hard for people to steal and or it get mixed into your own deck or your opponents deck you can find it easy.
My main deck I only use ultra pro non mat seleves they are only 3$.
Cheap is what I like because it means that they are easy to replace.
As far as getting a deck check it's not like the miss cut matters all that much as long as you are not using that to cheat which would be pretty hard and damn near impossible because it's all just small imperfections.
It's not super noticeable unless you are looking and I don't really think that the miss cut is going to affect shuffling in any way.
If they are all like that yes it might be iritating to look at or not so much look but the feel.
What I'm trying to say is you work with what you got unless you can find a better option that's still affordable and ideally won't give you the same issues.
Glad you talked about this, since I know it isn't what gives more views, but its interesting tho
katana supremacy
Dragon Shield supremacy
I find myself using Dragon Shield specifically for Yugioh since the foils are just so pretty. Give them a shot if you find em
Try out Dragon Shield Matte Sleeves ...Outstanding! And a bit thicker on the fron which is pretty good for protection.