The Honeymooners Remake | Forgotten Failures
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- I had an issue with the last upload of this video and I used the opportunity to rebalance the audio and correct my blatant mispronunciation of Leguizamo.
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We already had a decent updated remake for TV. It was called "King of Queens".
Spot on!
Would I compare Kevin James to Jackie Gleason? The show seems fitting as any
I feel like that’s been the motto for tv mike and molly is the same way some fat regular dude with a blue collar job marries to a hott strong woman.
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Kerry Heffernan was a fox, but Melissa McCarthy…not so much.
1000%
Not only did they do a "Honeymooners" sequence in an episode, "The King of Queens" is a pretty faithful update to the 1950s show.
RIP Jerry Stiller, the world is now less funny withouth you
My all-time favorite sitcom! Like most shows of the 90's, the cast was near perfect. Kevin James' opening scenes where he normally would argue with Arthur over something trivial(like who gets the toy from the cereal box) were priceless.
Classic episode
Wait
He's dead?
@@GothMermaidGamer Yeah
The Flinstones movie is a guilty pleasure.
The first one yes. Second one... we don't talk about that
Thank you! I love watching it when everyone else is dead asleep, my wife hates it.
What a random ass thing to bring up.
@Bradyn Not if you watched the vid @12:34.
Jackie Gleason was once asked what the difference was between comedy and drama. He said drama is when ordinary people do extraordinary things and comedy is when extraordinary people do ordinary things.
Love the casual roasting of Stan Helsing, a movie I've never heard of before.
If you’ve seen any mid 2000’s movie parody, you pretty much already know what Stan Helsing is.
@@comixproviderftw_02 Easily the worst one from that time.
@Al Tee That might be the most accurate and depressing description for the movie that I've ever read.
@Al Tee I think not another teen movie and maybe scary movie 1 only ones that did it right. Not teen movie was great still holds up today
@Al Tee agreed
"id expect this character in a movie where the dog is a hero"
2 minutes later...
"a dog is essential to the plot"
I can't believe that show lasted 1 season and it's so iconic 👍
If the network had had its way, it would have kept going, but Gleason chose to end it rather than see it decline in quality.
There were sketches done later on for The Jackie Gleason Show. Pert Kelton also played Alice at one point.
@@MegaMagicdog
The girl that played Jackie Gleason’s wife is low-key nice. Js.
Well, it ran from 1951 thru 1957. Only one season was done on film, though. Gleason thought the other seasons--- filmed off of a TV monitor --- were of too poor quality to be released. They eventually were, though. Then there was the Miami Beach Musical series of episodes. "Trip To Europe", etc...
I'm glad you brought up the controversy over Ralph's threats to Alice. Everyone remembers those lines, but it's so easy to forget Alice always always always called his bluff.
It was never abusive. That sort of talk started with comedians and some morons in their audience took it seriously
@@Contemplativeman101 No need for that kind of ableism. People are entitled to their interpretations. I also encourage balancing interpretation against intent but you don't know what lives people have lived, if seeing a dude screaming at his wife, which in most of the references and clips I've seen is all that's shown, not her retort, that's valid. Carrying trauma, hell just being uncomfortable at a dude losing his temper, doesn't make them less intelligent. Remember the clips most people see are short and one sided.
It..
It really ain't that deep fam
And "moron" is not an ableist term wtf
@@GothMermaidGamer No kidding!
@@Shindai "Ableism"? Really, dude? Go outside. You've been on tumblr too long.
It's impossible to do Jackie Gleason justice because he was so good on The Honeymooners.
Jackie Gleason is underrated. He was incredible.
The 11 years, but 6 dog years line kinda made me laugh. Cedric is really good at that backtracking style of humor where he constantly trying to correct something dumb he said.
I watched about 10 minutes of this movie, and that was all I could take.
Thank you for your service
What’s the matter, not privy to an empty, affirmative-action cash grab? You’re gonna love the new The Wonder Years. LoL.
It’s bizarre that the one significant white character is the bad guy. There’s a word for movies with this sort of racial aspect at play.
It's awful
The Brady Bunch movie is still great. It’s more interesting now, being a literal 70s time capsule trapped in a 90s time capsule. It’s far out maaan 💨🤪
“You put your tongue in my mouth.”
“That’s a French kiss.”
“You said you were from Nebraska.”
do a remake and have a 70s family in a 90s neighborhood and living in a 2020 world.
Not to mention that movie had the great Christopher Daniel Barnes!
"You're a regular UPN sitcom are you." That was funny I admit.
No,it wasn't.
The whole adding a punchline to a punchline is just lack of confidence in your own writing skills.
Hello ,You
Most people under 100 years old have never seen a vaudeville show. And no, that’s not what additional punchlines are. It’s a style of filmmaking that’s become popular usually based on improvisation of the actors and then building the film in the edit. Toppers, or punchlines based on the punchline, should be funnier than the original punchline.
As a writer, i know this tends to happen when you new writers are brought in after pervious writers have left in an attempt to "fix it up". We can tell this probably happened on this film by how the writing credits are printed. @2:31 . "&" means multiple writers worked on it together as a team and "and" means the writer came in separately. So it probably started with Danny Jacobson and went down the ladder. Each person or team reading the previous draft and saying "I'll make that joke funny and put my own stamp on it. Your welcome." It's a lack of confidence, not in your own writing skills, but in the skills of the writer before you. I'm not saying that's exactly what happened on this film, but I'm sure that these four writers were never in the same room working on this together. And that's not even mentioning any uncredited rewrites this might of had, or input by the producers, directors or even the actors themselves. But in the end, the editor could have fixed many of these issues just as Joe did, quite simply, with the joke @10:52.
21st century comedy in a nutshell. So glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.
again i scroll down and guess who i see you as in HELLO YOU !! mho you are the best channel awesome producer as in you aint a fart sniffing self absorbed asshole
What this feels like was they wanted to make a new tv show but that failed so they shoved all of the ideas they had for show and put them in a movie. It's a shame because this has a great cast and could have been great new reimagining on a classic show.
It certainly would have worked better as a television series. Maybe stating out trying too hard to be a modernized version of the original, but eventually finding its footing and becoming something all its own. Plus, I give more credit to this film than any of the wannabe Brady Bunch films that we collectively forgot. They can't all be Addams Family or Get Smart and toy around with the concept so that it fits as a movie, but thankfully there's only a handful of them that are like Beverly Hillbillies.
It was kinda around the same time we had alot of stupid movies made out of old tv shows.....Still not sure why we needed to take a show like Starsky and Hutch and turn it into a god awful stupid comedy...KInda surprised there has never been a Gilligan's Island garbage movie or a Three's Company garbage movie just cause hey they were popular in the 70s or 80s
They were a popular subject matter because one of them was successful so they had to keep cashing in off of it. I forget which one based of a 70's action series actually made money was was decent enough, but that's the only reason we got stuff like Starsky and Hutch. Maybe it was Dukes of Hazard, but I barely remember that one existing. Obviously, when one did good, studios just bought the rights to any old TV show to make it into a movie, and then when they stopped making money and the option was running out, they just threw stuff together. Happened again recently with 21 Jump Street, and then we got a lame CHIPS movie and a Baywatch movie that wasn't nearly as funny as some of the stupid crap that was in the actual series.
I think it's a strange case that it somehow should and shouldn't at the same time. It feels like they did set out to do a Honeymooners movie, but at the same time they just made a movie, threw in a few Honeymooners homages so the name recognition would make sense. Then again, it begs the question, why would you need a remake of a 1950's sitcom that was revolutionary at a time when they were pushing things like "Leave it to Beaver" as the overly idealistic America that didn't really exist? What made Honeymooners so special WAS that it was subversive. A heavy set, lower middle class blue collar worker in a run down looking apartment who constantly loudly fights with a wife that fights back harder? None of that picket fence proud papa being the master of the home with a respectful, but subservient family stuff here. But in between Honeymooners the TV show and Honeymooners the movie remake, sitcoms changed greatly. The 70's had quite a few shows about disillusionment. Everything ever made is an encapsulation of the time it was made in. TV show or movie, it would have been just another comedy that would probably get overlooked.
I remember seeing commercials for this back then. And yes, they shortened Norton's confession in the promos as well.
I thought that there already was a Honeymooners film remake: it was titled “The Flintstones”.
Did anyone else find Gabrielle Union an odd choice to pair with Cedric the Entertainment? While there have been a lot of “fat guy-hot wife” combinations in film and television, this one really stood out. I was surprised to find that in real life there is only an 8 year age difference between the two because it seemed like much more. Plus Union doesn’t exactly sell the struggling working class vibe that was essential to the original Honeymooners series.
It's easy to forget that Gabrielle Union is 48. Shes been 30-ish for 20 years.
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Still remember her in Ten Things I Hate About You. She and Julia Stiles were both insanely hot crushes for me
Hats Off Entertainment I have seen "Stan Hellsing" and it was a painful experience ! I haven't seen this one, but I imagine it would be more bearable than the former.
I fully agree with your point that a remake of an older concept shouldn't necessarily have the same branding as the original, especially when the remake takes that concept in a much different direction.
Imagine how much less popular The Flintstones would be, for example, if it were named "The Stone-Age Honeymooners" and used the same names for its characters.
I will never forget this film. I was a projectionist at the movie theater at the time it was released. I had the unfortunate task of screening the movie before it came out. It is always my answer to when someone asks "Which is the worst movie you've ever seen?"
I've always been confused by John Leguizamo. He's clearly a very talented actor/comedian, and you can find some genuinely good performances in his filmography, but he was in so so SO much crap - and usually misused. Did he have the worst agent in Hollywood?
(Speaking of talent, it's amazing how funny those old Honeymooners clips are, even out of context. Jackie Gleason was a comedy god.)
He does stupid comedies when he can be infinitely more charming and funny being in dramatic/comedy-drama roles. Even in Carlito’s Way, he makes such an impression as Benny Blanco from the Bronx.
@@littlekingtrashmouth9219 he’s a good actor but I think he just has such bad choices in films that his acting gets severely overlooked kinda like Adam Sandler great in dramas but just isn’t all that funny even in his own films
His one-man stage works are the best showcases of his talent by far
Honestly have wondered this, because I struggle to think of another actor this good in movies this bad, except for arguably Michael Caine, who probably just never said no to anything and so was in both the best and worst movies.
Chef kinda calls him out on this.
I remember I saw this in the theater with my brother, his girlfriend, and my sister because my sister thought it might be good. Once it was over we all leaned over at once to stare at her as if it were her fault for subjecting us to this terrible terrible film.
its been two and a half years, no word on the remake.
Jackie Gleason dancing is forever the funniest thing existing.
That Hucklebuck had me WEAK when I was younger watching them Honeymooners marathons on New Years 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
For me, it's him spending half an hour apologizing for how bad in the picture was 😅
Also, I'd like to see future installments of Forgotten Failures focusing on the Get Smart movie adap from 2008 and the Bewitched movie from 2005.
Definitely agree on a Bewitched video, especially since they just announced another reboot.
Now this is one of the forgotten failures of a classic TV show that I see no one talk about.
Justifiably forgotten.
I would really like to see an Almost cult classics on Continental Divide. It’s Star the amazing John Belushi and is barely talked about. Great video!
@@BaranoffIsaac might as well talk about Parents too, poor Randy Quaid. Lost his damn mind
Yes, I understand we're talking about Belushi movies, but I'm talking about other unfairly maligned or forgotten 80s comedies
Request: Mr. Bill's Real Life Adventures
This was originally going to star Kenan and Kel as a follow up to Good Burger. But never happened.
Glad I'm not the only person on Earth who knows that Brain Donors was genius.
You know who could fill out that bus driver uniform perfectly? Kevin James.
What do you mean the casting isn't a big deal?!
Can you imagine if a classic black sitcom, say the Jeffersons, was made into a movie with an all White cast? Just picture the results of that. There would be BLOOD in the STREETS if that happened, LITERALLY, as there would almost certainly be a riot!
@@BaranoffIsaac You don't think they'd lose their minds if White people did a Jeffersons or Good Times or Cosby Show movie? I think there'd be absolute pandemonium if that happened. It never would because it would be seen as racist.
I'm Black and I speak for myself when I say that the casting for this movie is the MAIN reason that I didn't want to see it. I don't like it when properties are whitewashed and it's no different when they are blackwashed, or tokenized.
Cool Small Wonder shoutout by the way, lol.
Unfortunately haven't forgotten this one....
They could've cast John Goodman, James Franco, Kristen Johnston (3rd Rock From the Sun), and Christina Applegate in this movie and it still would've sucked.
Because like the original, you need talented writers to make it work.
@@cityhawk - There's not very many good movie writers in Hollywood anymore.
At least with white actors playing the parts, it would have felt more like a Honeymooners remake. Race swapping never works. If they were going to deviate so far from the source material they should have called this movie Dog Daze.
You should take a look at The Odd Couple reboot with Chandler Bing and Jim Dangle.
OOH yes. That'd be a good one. The Odd Couple as a concept had basically been milked dry by that point by Two and a Half Men. So the reboot felt redundant.
haha, and here i thought the Leguizamo thing was intentional
He seems like an actor who could’ve taken a better serious turn, but stays with stupid comedy. Needs a better agent?
oof turns out i have watched this movie back when i was a kid. That dog racing part and John Leguizamo stealing gas scene really bring back forgotten memories of mine. lol
Lucky Louie was a perfect modern version of The Honeymooners. Such a shame HBO didn't give it a real chance.
I've only seen clips, but goddamn was it awful. Maybe I need to see more but it just seemed like a raunchier two and a half men.
@@thankyoujodi Funny part about that is that Louis CK on Opie & Anthony was shaming networks for keeping shows like Two And A Half Men on as soon as Lucky Louie was canceled
Nice to see a shout out to Brain Donors; an homage done right.
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>Implying the cody banks duology arent the best spy movies out there
the only thing good about agent cody banks is his female handler. what a fox.
Well considering Honeymooners was a live-action sect of the plot from Flintstones makes sense of the live-action Flintstones looks more like a Honeymooners
The Honeymooners came before The Flintstones, right?
The Flintstones was based off of The Honeymooners, just like most of Hanna-Barbera's other cartoon characters were based off of real life people.
@@AMReed8 You're right.
As said in the last video comments Cedric the Entertainer would make a good Buford T Justice in a Smokey and the Bandit reimagining
"I'm gonna barbeque yo ass in molasses!"
How bout no remake at all?
it looks like 3.3 it's too much
That’s impossible to actually discern from this reaction video.
@@GalaxyNexus1 is this your first day on youtube?
@@dimitreze is this your first day on Earth?
ditto
better left forgotten along with the Black Odd Couple.
The New Odd Couple with Ron Glass and Demond Wilson. The acting was good and stayed true to the television series, but it went almost word for word with the Randall/Klugman version. If they retitled it and wrote original scripts, it could have had a chance.
"'Black' Odd Couple"
Yeah i see how you may not like these movies.
I agree that this isn’t horrible, I watched it as a kid and remember crying with laughter
this should have been a 5 minute snl sketch.
Yes, was looking forward to this upload.
That’s actually a very valid argument. If studios really wanna try to re-capture the magic of these old TV shows and movies as remakes (even though some,if not, all fail), they’re better off calling it some thing else and using those original properties as inspiration, so as not to piss off original fans and not to confuse outsiders.
That Leguizi-amo was hilarious!! lol
I hope you do a video on "It's Pat." That is the ultimate in awful SNL skit movie adaptations.
It's tied with Stuart Saves His Family (in my opinion).
wastes excellent performances by Charles Rocket and Dave Foley!
Ok, but you have to admit there are several scenes in It's Pat which are comedy gold., even if the plot is terrible
@@rosebyanyname isn't Ween in it, too?
The film where Quentin Tarantino had an uncredited role as a script doctor
This one was the only Cedric the entertainer movie that entertained me.
They could have pulled it off way better if they set it in the 50’s.
The racism of the 1950s america being used as the backdrop for modern romcom is actually hilarious
@@petermoore7796 You mean the Democrat run Deep South.
This show was set in NYC.
@@AlfredFJones1776 Uhh...Racism existed everywhere in America in the '50's. The only difference was that discrimination was legally mandated in the South.
@@BiffGreggle Proof? Because I have proof that says otherwise.
Frankly speaking: I'm most glad that I subscribed to this wonderful channel, because this was another great video as always.
On a random aside: In light of the recent video that you've done on the extremely hard to find western comedy "The Cherokee Kid" (starring comedian Sinbad), I would love to see a future episode of "Forgotten Failures" cover his short-lived Fox sitcom, "The Sinbad Show."
Also, here are some recommendations for future episodes of either “Almost Cult Classics” or “Forgotten Failures”: D.C. Cab (1983), Tough Guys (1986), Moving (1988), The Dream Team (1989), Quick Change (1990), Shakes the Clown (1992), The Distinguished Gentleman (1992).
He has done a review of Quick Change on his Almost Cult Classics The Podcast TH-cam channel
Any attempt to remake a classic is always going to be risky business.
I think this was greenlit entirely off the fact that Cedric the Entertainer and Mike Epps just look like a modern Black Jackie Gleason and Art Carney.
I discovered this movie when I did some research on The Honeymooners after watching your Honeymooners video.
I absolutely ADORE The Honeymooners!!
Good lord, the CAST in this movie! Bob Hoskins is just randomly there
My mind is blown right now...there is a dog in the cover!!! First time seeing the dog...which you just pointed out, lol. Just goes to show how much attention i paid this movie when it came out.
Could you do a video (or a series of videos) on the worst National Lampoon films and the fall of the National Lampoon brand? I would love to see you discuss those in detail.
He did it!
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep yeah, it was great!!
I didn't even know this remake existed.
No one did.
Glad to see a video of someone talking about this film.
Love your channel!!! Been looking for someone to talk about this movie for a while
My family loved this movie as a kid
Downloading this and will watch this week. I wish it was more of a shot in one room comedy like a stage play. I have no problem with the black twist, so long as it’s not to pander, but this seems pretty genuine. I also really like Cedric The Entertainer, he’s fantastic on the neighborhood.
I repeat or reference, "Address the ball..." "Hello, ball!" at least once a week.
I love the old Honeymooner’s tv show. I watched the old show about 10 in it’s completion. It is my favorite show of all time. So when the movie came out I was curious. And it is not the same really, but I am one of the few that really liked the movie. Mike Epps was hilarious, and John (I know I will spell his last name wrong) Lequizamo was absolutely hilarious when he was stealing gas.
John Leguizamo was also in an American remake of the British sitcom Only Fools and Horses, that remake also barely has anything to do with the original show either.
Speaking of the The Brady Bunch movies, you should do a forgotten failure for the Brady Bunch in the White House
That movie apparently has a really disturbing gag involving Marcia getting hit on by Secret Service agents. I really wanna know who thought that was funny.
There was a quite popular 1998-2003 adaptation/remake series of Honeymooners in Poland called Miodowe Lata(literarily meaning "Honey Years") It seems quite close from what i remember to og series. Even set is almost identical.
I guess sole aspect of it being a series like original helps it. Turning sitcoms into movies rarely works.
It would be quite hard for you to watch if you would like to tho. Its not on any streaming service and i doubt it would feature english subtitles even of it did. Tho with how simple episode plots are it could work without these still.
There was one in Portugal called Nico D’Obra in the early/mid 90s that I used to watch, pretty sure the episodes are on TH-cam. Also a I Love Lucy type show called Marina Marina.
Polish version worked because how close to home it all felt. People just adapted from Socialism to Capitalism and poor people just wanted to get better life in any crazy idea possible.
Does a theoretically simple comedic movie like this really need four screenwriters? That might explain all the extra punchlines and try-hard jokes. Too many cooks ruining what seems like great natural chemistry between the two leads.
It suffers the fate all remakes should.
"it's a simple setup to show how the wives always outwise their husbands"
Which is the basis for all trashy TV today
It's been the setup for shows since day one.
Try again, without the persecution complex.
@@paulheap1982 lol OK weirdo
@@ottoandersson2216 yeah, the retort of someone who's wrong.
@@paulheap1982 😂
@@ottoandersson2216 and again, keep it up. 😅
I am not sure if this meets your rubric, but The Beautician and the Beast sure is quite a Forgotten Failure...
Agree, a more understated tie to the TV show than outright calling it the same name would help any "based on" move ease into the present while appealing to the attachments some fans have to the original.
I'd love to see you do something about the Addams Family, specifically the failed 70s revival, if you ever had interest in it
There's a forgotten failures episode about Addams Family Reunion that he did last year
The Honeymooners is still a great show! Still funny and has topics on the show that are kinda still relevant today.
How old are you ?
Time travels to 2005
Marty: Hey, hey, I've seen this one, I've seen this one. This is a failure, this is where Ralph breakdances for money and races dogs.
Milton: What do you mean you've seen this, it's brand new.
Marty: Yeah well, I saw it on a TH-cam review video.
Milton: What's TH-cam?
Marty: You'll find out.
No one forgot this movie failed.
This video has convinced me that Jackie Gleason is one of the greatest entertainers of all time
The man was great
The original show is very much a product of its time. Trying to replicate the formula while modernizing it and keeping the name for brand recognition makes sure the final product will please no one.
Hats off man
"I'd expect this character in a movie where a dog is the hero" is an incredible burn, haha.
One of the few who saw this in theaters, just by chance. I was about 13 or 14, and I didn't even know about Jackie Gleason or the original show. I hardly remember it, but I liked Cedric the Entertainer in it a lot.
I never heard of this movie. Not a clue it even existed, but it looks pretty funny and I'm going to look for it. A little irritated that the ONE white guy in the major cast is the evil, underhanded, horrible person but... still looks kinda good.
Mike Epps is a national treasure
Excellent review. You could have just tore it to shreds but you were very fair.
I grew up watching The Honeymooners reruns with my Dad. Loved em....which is why I expected to hate this movie, but I didn't. The plot and dialogue wasn't great, but the individual gags were ok and I kinda liked the reimagining of the characters and performances by Cedric, Union and Epps.
The Cody Banks Films Are fun to this day.
I don’t even remember Trixie from the original show. I also didn’t even know this movie existed
What about the remake of Death in a Funeral?
From British English to American English! I love Frank Oz, but the original isn’t very good, either
9:46 Ah, so that’s why there’s an incredibly awkward scene in The Star Wars Holiday Special (one of many) where Art Carney takes forever to set up a little box with a holographic rock show in it.
yes, a homage to one of his more recognizable roles.
This one needed to be remembered
The sitcom, not this train wreck.
I really enjoyed the 30 rock Honeymooners sketch.
The Honeymooners already had a tv reboot: King of Queens
That's a cute pupper though, it deserves the screentime.
disregard my last two comments haha glad to see the vidoe back. huge fan by the way love all your work!
Hey, thanks!
I loved this movie!!