I totally agree.There would be a lot better movies if politics and propaganda was out of Hollywood .A great example is prejudice against certain cultures is what I noticed
I'm a Black guy. I have enjoyed Black cinema my entire life. There was no shortage of Black films, music, sports, TV shows etc. Our representation in the 70s,80s, 90s, 00s was always huge. But to my surprise, in the last part of the 2010s I have tons of companies acting as if none of this exists. As if they are the saviors of Black entertainment. I have 20 somethings telling me I don't know my own history. I have people saying "Finally, we have a Black superhero" Forgetting about Spawn, Blade, Steel, Meteor Man, etc. Just make good movies, I don't need multi-millionaires preaching to me about anything.
@Tranzor Z They even said Idris Elba's character Luther wasn't Black enough. They wanted more Black stereotypes to be represented. These people are sick
Ikr, these today young woke writers never even watched the 80s 90's or early 2000s movies, they only just going to start their conversation with assumptions, I bet you a million dollars they never seen menace ll society or dead Presidents or blade
Yes! I hear you man. As a Mexican American I had less representation in Hollywood but I didn't care because I still felt a connection with those people regardless of skin color.
I felt like I was the only one annoyed when people kept making a big deal about Black Panther being the first black Marvel movie when we literally had Blade and the others you mentioned. Like it got to the point where it was uncomfortable and I just wanted to see the movie because I’m a big Marvel fan and I didn’t really care about the race of the hero’s.
@@LiberatedMind1 what are you talking about? His second one could be considered the peak of the trilogy. Have you forgotten the wild popularity of Heath Ledger’s Joker?!
I have dislikes Disney for a long long time... it was never a secret that Disney was a terrible company/organization. But I guess since people are so willing to look the other way to keep their children entertained... they never realized that they were helping fund a stain upon humanity's image.
The thing is, politics can be in movies, as long as the issue at hand is discussed openly, i.e., make a movie *about* the issue. It’s the manipulation and covert messaging that ruin movies that are not made for that type or content (for lack of a better word).
There were always checkboxes, certain tropes that were known to be successful or popular. But certainly still more room for artistic integrity and freedom.
@@ericwitt4359 It means that they wasted the last chance to bring the whole group back together one more time... something fans would have loved to see and not trying to bank on that idea (and killing them off in a dull way) is one of the greatest sins you can make when it comes to story telling. (Remember he said the most important rule is to entertain the viewer, not lecture them).
Part of the issue is they eliminated the mid-budget movie and instead everything is either a blockbuster or an indie...losing that middle ground removed the storytelling side of it and removed a lot of the fun popcorn flicks that used to keep the theatres busy.
This applies to gaming as well. It's either a bloated AAA production that's too big to do anything good or a tiny indie studio that struggles to keep itself afloat let alone reach a high level of production. It's insane.
The problem with this is that whenever a minority character is introduced they're scrutinized way more by people who just claim to want good characters. Loads of generic action films with boring white male leads come out and no bats an eye, but one film releases with a female protagonist and everyone loses their minds.
I think that's almost impossible to do in a movie, 2 hrs of time with 30 mins of main character story progression (which is massively high for a movie) is just not enough. Obviously some do it pretty well like Joker or Shawshank redemption. That's why I watch series mostly because there's far more room for character and story development.
@@dustinakadustin Alien & Aliens. Ripley, female lead. Strong independent woman loved by all. Terminator, sarah connor female lead, possibly the strongest action character ever, eventually killed by the latest SJW film. Gina Carano defended by the fans when she was bullied, was defended by the fans on an incredible scale that has totally fucked Disney up. The fans defending her showed the very sexist argument they were using against fans was complete and utter bullshit.
“I miss loving Star Wars” that really hit with me. Use to love Star Wars unconditionally, now I’ve grown cold to it as I’ve watched it fall into darkness
And I could love Star Wars even if they chose Luke to fall to the dark side, if the idea of new Jedi order was questioned and the faults of the Jedi order during the Clone Wars were elaborated on. They could still go this route, but they should have just told that story, instead of "focusing on the positive message". What they think is positive is really off, and it's the viewer who should make up his own mind on the story. Not being propagandized. Instead of exploring those concepts in-universe, they decided to basically break the 4th wall and preach about the dangers of toxic musculinity, slander tradition, preach diversity, and mock capitalism (being the most hypocritical message of all).
What Disney didn't realize is that (formerly) hard-core STAR WARS fans like myself didn't watch the series for its high drama or for its stories. We watched it for all the surface stuff: the aliens, the technology, the exotic planets, the action sequences - all the things we could easily evoke at home by playing with the Kenner toys. To me, the story and characters merely served the purpose of moving all that spectacle along. I'm sorry if that sounds superficial, but it's true. Disney forgot that STAR WARS was intended for children from the very beginning, and that children don't demand much self-importance or gravitas from their entertainment. When you're making a high-concept movie for children, labyrinthine plots and complex characters tend to get in the way of the actual entertainment.
Well the movies are trash but the series’s on Disney+ are quality IMO Idk why they can make side characters in the clone wars and after more interesting than the actual main characters in the sequel trilogy
Some top movies of 1994 were Forrest Gump, Pulp Fiction, Shawshank Redemption, Leon The Professional, Clerks, Four Weddings and a Funeral, Natural Born Killers, and a whole slew of other great ones. Granted, that was for some reason, an exceptional year but still, why can't Hollywood come even close to making anything like those any more?
when they try and make a movie that includes everyone so it doesn't offends anyone so anyone can enjoy it based on their standards, you end up with a movie that appeals to nobody except for woke people like them
You experienced the apex of storytelling of this production era. Most Hollywood movies borrow other peoples creativity. Culminates it together as a framework. Even the professional musicians copied their musical talents from other creators. From a long time ago. Once they had money. They were able to interview some of the most bizarre people within our culture. Including criminals. Hollywood is a sandwhich put together by a circus. But they ran out of new ingredients. Telling a 3d story and displaying it on a 2D screen. Limited by time and a budget. It can't even replace well written novels. Technology has ruined people's attention span. Bad editing in a movie with too many cut scenes. It's as annoying as watching a movie with commercials.
No😅All the movies you mentioned are garbage too, only less worse than the super hero movies and today's trash lol Cinema died at the end of the 50s with the fall of the studio system and end of the golden era, so unfortunately, all the black roles after that are meaningless. The 70s were also trash, just boring trash
I’ve been re-watching the Lord of the Rings trilogy and it’s really making me miss the days when you would see that amount of effort put into a film to make it as good as it can possibly be.
That's because, at its core, LotR was a passion project. You can truy feel the love it was made with. That, for me, makes it the last Hollywood megaproduction, a form of art that will never be seen again. Contrast it to The Hobbit, the hacked and butchered executive product. The difference is night and day.
I know dude, even though the lord of the rings movies were super long they were and still are enjoyable which is the one thing modern movies lack. You can't watch a modern movie today more than once, they're just so bad that if a 3 hour movie was made no one would watch it (the only exception are marvel movies)
@@psychomantis8007 They were such a disappointment. As standalone films, they might be passable. But as prequels to LotR, they're awful. And with all the things happening around their production, it's a miracle that they got made at all. I wanted to love those movies, but damn are they bad at almost every level.
I used to work in the industry and a movie producer's thirteen year old son asked me if I had any ideas for film projects. I asked him why he was asking ME and he said "My dad can't think of anything so he asked me if I could come up with something. I can't think of anything, either." And that's Hollywood.
Well, that's because "new ideas" never used to come from producers and marketing stuff, which is the standard now. A talented script writer and a good director used to come to a a producer and explain their project, which they had to convince the production it was worth to risk on. Now a producer and a marketeer look around to what is mainstream, chose a franchise from the early nineties, set a list of boxes to be checked, always including " The Message!" To appease the industry intelligentsia, chose the main characters on base of gender age pool targeting and colour, instead of "acting competence", then call an underpaid writer working on a wage and tell him to put together a fast and easy to understand plot that contains all the surmentioned checkboxes. Once they have it, in a couple of weeks, they call upon a "trusted" director, well known to do the "homework" without asking too much in creative terms and a special effect studio to fake all the stunts and the "pew pews"... Star wars XXI is born.
In the new movies Han is a failed father who didn't learn any lessons and went back to his old life, Luke, the man who once saw enough good on Darth Vader to not give up on him, is basically just a coward and a failure as well. This is all very deliberate. They were never going to give fans the story they wanted and the one that we would have loved. Everything is subversion. Pay attention to the messages we receive from any media
Are those the jocks? The nerds of the consumers are those jocks? Uhh...yep maybe. Corporate jocks run the industry and cow tow to China too much. Those that are successful in the media business protect their interests.
Let's also not forget the scene that has C-3PO saying that he is taking one last look at his "friends"....yet none of the people present save for Chewbacca was actually one of his friends. Luke, Leia, and Han weren't there and we were stuck with a bunch of empty, unlikable, wasteful excuses for characters let alone what should be the next generation of galactic heroes. None of them were and it wasn't fair. Just like having a talentless hack like Freddie Prinze Jr. openly attack the fans of the franchise who aren't here for the mediocrity and bastardization of what they love.
I'm 46 and I have a 16 year old daughter and we watch lot of movies together. No lie, 95% of the movies we watch are from when I was a kid. 5% are from when she was a kid. So sad.
Same here man. Like, I WISH we could watch newer stuff but my sons themselves ask me for old stuff. They rather be a bit disconnected culturally with their friends at school but watch good movies.
This is it exactly! I'm 47 and I'm thinking about the movies I'd want to pass onto my niece someday and all I can think of are the 80s/90s classics....that really hit me that something has been lost big time.
Because movie companies think when they wake up”money is power and happiness” and make sequels and prequels that nobody cares for or awful movies from their behind.
“Ripley was just a great Character”. Exactly. Most people don’t know how to write a “strong female character” because that is what they are trying to do. Great characters are great for what they do, how they do it, and why they do it - not for what they are. But what made Ripley great was that she wasn’t surrounded by bumbling idiots. Strong characters need strong characters to side with and against them. Otherwise they are just the least lame/weak.
I liked Alien because you didn't automatically identify Ripley as a main character. The first time I watched it she was just another person on this ship with an alien killing machine on the loose. There was a real sense of danger to ALL the characters including Ellen Ripley.
Ripley was a great character to me, bc when I was 10 yrs old first time watching Aliens and she was just kicking a...i was like yay I knew girls could kick a...she was my hero...it was literally the first time ever I had seen a female be the hero of the story not that I had a problem with my ghostbusters or Indiana...bc I did not at all, it was just FUN to see a girl kick a...everyone here has made great points...and even now when Sigourney shows up as a cameo in other movies...it just brightens my day!
Movies feel insanely soulless nowadays, so many modern movies I have watched have all left me empty. None of them leave you feeling a type of way. It’s hard to explain
I think they are much more straightforward nowadays, before it made you feel good to guess the themes and nuances of the movie or show correctly but now it's all on your face, whoever didn't understand what she-hulk was all about with the femsplaining scene didn't pay attention at all
Yeah sadly western i.e., American, movies and shows have become so bad I no longer watch. The art and craft are gone. I watch anime now, and damn those people try really hard to tell proper stories, and only the best stories that people want to read and watch make it big (a case of if your work is genuinely good than it can succeed, their biggest issue is the market is PACKED by competition so if you dont make it fast you might get dropped which can be a bad thing with good concepts)
When the studios and actors start to attack the fans when a film bombs, and those people are not immediately fired it should tell you everything you need to know about what's really going on.
They robbed us all to produce propaganda, only a dictator would tell the people to stfu and listen to them.. They also seem to have been on a mission to turn it inside out all along since acquiring the IP us OGs are calling them on their BS. SW was never even divisive or exclusive until they started taking it down the dark path
I think the problem is that most movies these days feel the need to please everybody. So they never take "risks" and we end up with a "Jack of all trades, Master of none".
Jack of all traits? More like sucking ass equally in all regards to make it equally painful to watch for all audiences.Today's movies are carried by the flashy CGI instead of good writing,that's why they suck.
They’re not catering to everyone. They cater to Leftist ideology solely and absolutely. This isn’t entertainment: it’s indoctrination. They’ll lose money until they go back to entertaining.
@@scottnolan2833 Lmao one side thinks everyone who sh*ts on movies are buncha Fascist rightists and the others think movies are leftist brainwashers. Truly the pinnacle of American division
It's kind of hilarious that he's complaining about modern cinema being filled with politics, when his own opinions can ONLY BE EXPLAINED by, you know, politics. Why is it that culture is "fractured" nowadays? Why is it that the 70's was the last great era of American movies? Why is it that people had movies that everyone loved without argument? *ALL* of those things are inherently political: the USA was the great saviour of the world back then, people had a common enemy, many social prejudices and injustices were justified by the need for economical prosperity and global influence. All of that has changed. If that fella ever talked to a Latin American person who watched the invasion of American cinema during the early years of the Cold War, he'd know what it's ACTUALLY like for movies to be "filled with politics". Your movies weren't about "fun", they were all about indoctrination and cultural colonialism. We were taught that us, third world countries, could only succeed with the fatherly hand of the United States, and we believed it. And you're complaining about politics in 2021? Well, ain't that a pity...
Define lecture. There's movies from the 80s and 90s that had some of the same messages yet few people complained. Edit: in fact, aside from the Die Hards, Lethal Weapons, Speeds, and Predators of yesteryear, I'd argue that films have almost always been an opportunity for filmmakers to voice something they have to say. There's countless films that had a message, it's just much easier to swallow when you actually agree with it.
@@chrisjfox8715 every facet of a movie is political posturing or influenced by marketing. This terrible method was started in 1980s true... those are the movies I hated then. This current age is well beyond those though
This is nonsense. Any movie that lectures is obviously and universally considered bad. 90% bad movies have been around since the beginning, there's just more opportunity for them to be seen on all of the platforms. There's no new overwhelming conspiracy of "political movies". Thats complete bullshit. lol
Going to the movies has become that “Well, there’s nothing else to do. Anything tolerable playing?” I used to sit for half an hour listening to the automated movie times for the weekend trying to decide which ones I could see. Now. Maybe one or two a year I’ll invest in and maybe one won’t suck.
“Strong female character” we want = A well written character who happens to be female “Strong female character” we get = physically strong character that is right even when they’re wrong and doesn’t listen to anyone because they know better than everyone else
Exactly. Write the stories as if everyone is a white dude, then go in after the fact and change some of them to be women or XYZ ethnicity or LGBT and tweak small details later on as needed to enhance those quality characters.
I feel like even really bad movies from decades ago had a sense of wholesomeness and emotional intelligence to them. These days even the best movies are so bland and corporate.
You nailed it. It's corporate and they don't go by intelligence or art, they go by some stupid spread sheet given to them by some college kid who skated through his semesters because either he came from a rich family or used some affirmative action program to get in. It's no longer about what you know, but who you know.
This from Tolkien who created the most mesmerizing world. Where did he get that goodness? I think it came from Jesus. In a time where so many people denounce Jesus, the source of all goodness, no wonder the content being put out is terrible. It's all dark and moral less.
Yes Tolkein made a profoundly Christian statement. He was a thinker who it seems understood the nature of evil. The only words I would add to his statement are : the nature of evil is 'to steal, kill and destroy'. The 'stealing' bit is what he was alluding to. Glory be to our Lord.
I can't stand that Hollywood is TERRIFIED to take even a slight teensy bit of a risk so instead opt to make the blandest movies that are inoffensive to every possible demographic
"Originality is dead." I did youth counselling and I heard variations of this many times ("Individuality is dead"). Kids are afraid to express themselves because they will be publicly shamed on unSocial Media if they do. Hollywood has completely embraced nepotism as the driving culture. Before if you had a touch of talent you could make a movie, but now talent has taken a back seat to Who You Know. To protect this behavior they have weaponized behavioral psychology to make young people unhappy all the time, with the need to blame others for their own failures.
@@TomorrowWeLive Wrong. Shove your antisemitism. Nepotism is the modus operandi of the untalented and unskilled. They place friends in position below them because they are afraid of skilled subordinates that are smarter than they are.
It's about money man. You want movies to take risks, go watch middle budget movies. Studios are going to interfere because quarter billion dollar movies are terrifying to finance. You want studios to step away from the project, gotta get middle budget movies successful again. Enough funding that the director can do what they want but not so much that the studio is scared to fund it. Aka, stop watching spiderman, start watching mortal kombat.
@@ELFanatic wouldn't netflix or A24 be a good example of this? I heard netflix allows great freedom, especially since they're still trying to boaster their roaster. Eg. The Irishman (budget and length). But I do understand what you mean.
@@jophillips1464 Absolutely. But netflix ain't hollywood and this guy is directly talking about movies. And if he wants to watch movies that take risks, he has to watch movies that took those risks, if the risk paid off or not.
I've been saying this for years now, "the movie consuming public are a bunch of spoiled brats". Whats your original concept Spielberg? Bust out your laptop & show us how its done, nothing stopping you. How many Hollywood movies do you click on & watch every week. Boo hoo.
“You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could and, before you even knew what you had, you patented it and packaged it and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox.”
When he was asking what is one movie that everyone loved, the first movie I thought of was Jurassic Park. I have yet to hear one person say they didn't love it.
@@itsnotrightyouknow i dunno what you trying to say, but he got a good point..Majority of normal working class people, dont care about this woke culture, this shit spawned from people who have good high paying jobs, never knew physical work, only work in office and are disconnected from reality...Thats why rings of power sucks, cause its show about diversity, and woke values not entertairment
He's totally right about those check boxes ruining everything. I work on a Children's TV show. And we are banned from animating sad or angry emotions... It's a struggle to make it look entertaining.
It is honestly hilarious how Disney managed to take a franchise with a massive built-in audience and worldwide renown and then run it so deep into the ground that now they only try to make kid shows out of it.
@@dallasdandigitalproduction393 No, this is not true. Neither the original three movies nor the prequels were made specifically for children. That's a line that Lucas made up after every (honest) adult who saw The Phantom Menace said it was terrible - although yes, part of that movie was designed to rope in a new generation of fans. But all six of the first movies were intended to be fun for the whole family. (Note that Luke gets his hand chopped off in the second one - imagine if Aladdin had gotten his hand chopped off for stealing.) Frankly, I think you're hard-pressed to make the argument for any of the sequels either. They rely heavily on nostalgic references that kids won't get, for starters. And everyone dies at the end of Rogue 1.
It's so sad to see the MCU make a turn for the worse, too. I really enjoyed the first few movies like the original Ironman and The First Avenger. Midway through I felt like they were watchable and enjoyable, but not great. Now we have She Hulk and even though I really like Tatiana Maslany, I couldn't even finish the first episode without wanting to throw stuff at my tv. It all comes down to profit margins for the cast and the execs. You have to cut corners to live like Smaug on a mountain of money.
Hollywood is too woke to be entertaining anymore ! they're too busy being politically correct and preaching to be entertaining anymore ! I prefer independent, small budget movies that are interesting and not so preachy !!
I think that's a big reason why Captain America: Winter Soldier is still regarded as one of the best Marvel films overall. The Russo Brothers said multiple times that their narrative drive for that film was to push and test who Steve Rodgers is with the most adverse challenges to the point that he had to stay true to himself even against a faction that he originally thought was made for good.
This is refreshing to see. He's putting words to what I've felt for years: modern Hollywood films don't feel like art or even entertainment as much as they feel like a collection overly-safe and tropey checkboxes backed by multi--million-dollar global marketing budgets. Studio executives don't look at film as a medium for expression as much as a medium for checking these boxes, and as a result, these films lack *soul.*
Yup, i have been going back to movies like Contact with Jodie Foster and omg the excitement in that film is brilliant. Sure the technology has advanced and we have better visuals today but the tension they manage to build in that movie and the ending is a feel good movie and i went straight to talk to my folks about how much i really miss a movie that makes me feel that way. It has a female lead that is held back but it’s done in a way that I don’t feel i am being shamed as a male for it and find my self routing for her all the way. I can think of numerous movies like that that leave you feeling really satisfied from that era. Shawshank Redemption, The Green Mile, and we can name numerous Robin Williams movies which are just pure fun! We need that back!
@@starcraft-bo2mk Agreed on Jodie Foster's role in Contact. The character feels real and human, not type-cast to fulfill an agenda. It reminds me of how George R. R. Martin was asked about how he wrote female characters so well. His response: "You know, I've always considers women to be people."
Your surely right. I've felt this way about the TV studio industry in the last 5 years or so. With so many reboots of shows now being produced, this clearly tells me there are no creative writers in this field. Nobody can come up with something new and different. So, I go indie now. From Europe, Turkey, Mongolia, and others. These shows can be a simple 30 minute story on life, or 90 minutes of a quest by real actors, sure, low paid, but real acting. Very refreshing.
There's little optimism for the future nowadays. Considering how bleak everything feels at the moment, a boost of optimism and happiness is well-needed but instead all we get is a reflection of how shitty things are.
I remember Slavoj Zizek talking about this. His counterintuitive take is that optimism is dangerous to the elites because disappointed optimism is when revolutions happen. It's better for the elites to keep us in this constant state of hopeless light depression by depriving us of any inspiring narratives.
@@stephaniebfi4297 I've heard that too. I also just read that a lot of the scenes, characters, costume and ship designs in the Star Wars trilogy can be found in the comics Valerian and Laureline, which came out years before the movie.
It cost 11 million to make. That is 49 million in today’s money. For comparison, a massive studio film the same month, Sorcerer, cost 20 million. That it’s utter shit is neither here or there, it ain’t indie.
We still have the George Lucas Saga and the "Legends" material (which is still outselling the schlock original content that Disney has been shoveling out). The Clone Wars/Rebels/Bad Batch and Mandalorian are still good because they still have Dave Filoni involved, and George was grooming him to be the one to take over for him. As long as Filoni/Favreau stay involved with Lucasfilm, the stuff they put out is true-to-form. Everything else, though, is complete trash and it's pretty heartbreaking to watch Disney and Kathleen Kennedy take an enormous corporate shit over a universe that has been such a foundational thing for so many people. I think there's a light at the end of the tunnel, though, as Disney begins to feel the sting in their balance books about how little money the Kathleen Kennedy controlled shit has made them.
@@caseypayne5138 George Lucas ficked up Star Wars since the prequels. At some point you'll realize that brands don't matter as much as time does. It's a hard lesson that most people ignore.
@@ELFanatic 100% disagree. The prequels had some hokey dialogue and bad acting...but so did the OT. The Prequels are also a masterclass in worldbuilding, visual storytelling, and brought out probably the coolest era in the Expanded Universe. They're also fun as hell. I can't say the same for the Didney films save for Rogue One and maybe Solo
The problem is that Movies USED TO determine culture...NOW movies are being determined BY culture or lack of it. I finally understand what the expression "The tail is wagging the dog" means now.
Very profound thought. Movies like the matrix like you say used to be so creative and original that it shaped the world around it. You had people running up walls and trying to do the bullet scene. Now the outside world and its politics shape how the movie is being made. It's all agenda based.
This is 100% accurate and I have felt like society has been gaslight in a major way the last decade and told that black people have been such a rarity in pop culture/ entertainment…basically erasing the existence of several decades of entertainment.
We really have reached a dark time in the entertainment industry. Movies, shows, sports, gaming, etc. It doesn't matter. Everything has sold its soul and we wonder why everything is falling apart. Integrity is dead.
It's because general education is so terrible. People read less. Many don't read the classics. They are disconnected from high culture. And we have forces claiming that there is no high culture, that everything is relative and cannot be judged as better or worse. This shows in the film industry.
"Fun" has become the new 4-letter word. The original Star Wars, in 1977 had a trailer that hardly showed anything. The last true Star Wars movie was the prequel Rogue Squadron. The last movie I watched in a theater was "Top Gun: Maverick. It was fun, had heart and no politics. It's call "escapeism" for a reason. I'm 67yrs. old and I've enjoyed TV, movies ,music and Video games.I used to record the Academy Award but the last good 9ne I can remember was in 2000. Billy Crystal was the host and it was good. Now it's garbage. In 2022 it was the TV Audience that truly got a "Slap to the Face." Go back to the age of just giving out the awards, in private, and announcing them on The News in 5 minutes. Thank goodness for Turner Classic Movies/ TCM and others that let me excape, for a few hours, and not feel guilty or a victim. "If you build it (Good). They (We) will come"
@@krane15 Yeah, and most people avoid "the lecture" in movies like the plague. If we want lectures, we take college classes. Don't need to be lectured to by entertainers.
@@historyandhorseplaying7374 You missed my point. First, a lecture is not always a criticism or admonishment. In a good film the lecture can be instruction sometimes hidden and unavoidable. Second, film can do so much more than just entertainment. It can also serve as the ultimate medium for education.
@@krane15 And I think you missed my point-- I don't go to watch movies for "education", as I'm already far better educated than those who made the film. I go to films for entertainment. Again, if I want "education", I'll take a college course.
I've noticed every since the Ghostbusters reboot. The common practice in Hollywood is "If your movie isn't well received then blame your audience". I've never seen any other business that disregards their customers and wonders why they aren't making money.
@@crikeybaguette4564 video games get away with it because they make too much damn money on microtransactions. So long as they find 1 whale they can afford to upset 10k customers.
That all woman, man bashing Ghostbusters failed, so why are new movies still following that formula? Let’s make the new Bond a woman! Sure, brilliant. (First Bond movie I will never watch.)
@@AllenFreemanMediaGuru I love how when these movies flop they don't even consider the possibility that something was wrong with the movie. They have this illusion the movie is perfect and the audience are ignorant. "Oh you sexist pig. You just didn't like it because it was an all female cast!" "No, I didn't like it because it sucked"
For the last year or so my husband and I scroll thru the 80s and 90s to pick out movies because we simply hate all new movies. They are pure woke trash! We keep finding gems that we never had a chance to see or are reseeing as adults... Wow, what a world of difference. You leave these movies feeling something, other than rage! And then you also come to realize how much representation there is of everyone, all skin colors, sexualities, etc... The media wants you to believe that they are becoming woke and doing something so good and selfless when it's been there all along. Wake up everyone they're trying to fool us and create division and hate! .. but their downfall will be their underestimation of us! #WeReallyArentThatDumb 🤦 ... Are we? 🤣
Yeah, nowadays we literally paid for it. But going back to his points, the community guidelines destroys the film industry. They want to instill reality in a fantasy. Thats a huge red flag
@Sergio Barrett I see it like you. I go at netflix and search and search... there is nothing absolute nothing to see. Only older movies are OK but you already saw them ... and then you turn it off.
"Creatively Bankrupt" Absolutely nails it. Everything is either a reboot, remake, sequel or prequel. And the "new" movies are taken from previously established works in comics or novel, or obvious plagiarisms of other works. It's getting so tiresome.
I wonder if oversaturation has anything to do with it... Not just the cinema market, but the creative market as a whole which influences and inspires cinema.
@@maccagrabme i agree, being you put Mainstream in there lol. For me modern Metal is the best its ever been. But 100%, dance hip-hop and rap, are objectively in the worst state they've ever been.
It doesn't help that a scant few mega-corporations own the majority of the entertainment IPs - they don't have to try because there's no viable competition forcing them to put forth an effort; all they have to do is sit back, cater to the lowest common denominator, slap a recognizable license on something, and watch the revenue pour in.
At the end of the day, fiction is supposed to be an escape from reality, and when you lose sight of that idea. Then it starts to go down the drain real quick.
The fact that Disney is recycling their old animated movies instead of taking classic science fiction (Asimov, Bradbury, Niven, Heinlein, et.al.) and making something truly spectacular that would actually raise (and possibly answer) a genuinely serious question shows how dysfunctional the studio system is... Can you IMAGINE what "Ringworld" would be like in an IMAX theater???
And to imagine is probably the closest we will ever get to it. Really hurts to see how the film industry has fallen. Even 10 years ago we were getting a whole bunch of decent movies each year
He said the 70s was the last time America made good movies, that's straight bs. 80s and 90s had an enormous amount of great movies. The last 20 years suck, mostly forgettable overhyped turds
tbh though if you know what to look for you can tell if the movie is going to be bad by how much they show or don't show. if they basically give you the entire movie in the coming weeks its bad. if in the coming weeks they're still showing the exact same scenes, thats the only good scenes and its gonna be bad.
There’s only a handful of directors/writers that I think still put out solid work that keeps my faith alive for the future of cinema. Guys like Christopher Nolan, Wes Anderson, Quentin Tarantino, David Fincher, and Denis Villeneuve are some of the few genuine movie makers left. But 80-90% of the rest has all become bogged down with too much “social commentary” and weak storytelling that it is becoming harder to keep on enjoying cinema. Videos like this just help reinforce my want to constantly go back and watch movies of old. Films from the 70’s thru 90’s, and even some 2000’s thrown in there. At least we still have those
"Back when Star Wars was first being made, they were checking one box, it was called 'fun'" Perfect quote to describe what movie studios are missing the mark on these days.
@@kieroncampion120 being entertained isn’t stupid it’s a relaxing from normal life and gives energy to move on .. even Kubrick knew that one of his favorite movies was The Idiot started Steven Martin.. and Eraserhead but that’s a different thing..
@@kieroncampion120 first thing first.. a massage is actually a good idea for your body .. second thing yes Star Wars is just popcorn entertainment and that’s totally fine.. there are scenes and acting there are really good and you not dumb for liking it or find something there speaks to you.. and yes it’s can be art in some regard like Warhol made Coke Cola art .. or something like that like that find out yourself stupid.. 😜
"That last Star Wars movie by J. J. Abrams is garbage, it's unwatchable." That single sentence sums up the entirety of the StarWars sequels. It's not a good thing when you sum up 3 movies in a sentence like that. Not good at all. :|
the part that sucks is when you figure out how many people are being covertly abused by the masons while the public wonders why their entertainment sucks like that big u.s. gold mine in west papua where 1.8 million people have died over the fifty years but no one is even slightly aware or concerned
@@ThashniNaidoo the show "Lost" was absolutely terrible. I was too young at the time to know how bad the show that I was watching truly was. it's a show that pretends to have a story and pretends to have characters but it's really just bunch of sound effects and noises flashy lights that make you think that you're watching an actual TV show and then you realize oh wait there's nothing here. it's a bunch of visuals without even the skeleton of a story. JJ Abrams then went on to take stagnant franchises like Star Trek and Star wars and just really grind them down into the mud. Westworld is another show exactly like lost. it's a hollow skeleton with very little meat on the bones. everything he makes is garbage
@@atomictraveller The Masons? 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 The Masons are a bunch of grandpas playing clubhouse. you can just look at the consolidation of the media under deregulated capitalism and there's your answer as to why creativity in big budget movies has been stifled over time.
@@djangofett4879 I agree with u, one hundred percent. It had alot of potential where there was a huge cast with equal importance and complex personalities. But it was all fog and mirrors.
I remember a speech made in the 1990s by Robert Redford. I believe he was receiving a Lifetime Achievement award at the Academy Awards. He said the the American motion picture industry (in the 90's) was still healthy and vibrant, but at the same time warned that the industry would suffer if it relied more and more heavily on only making and backing movies that were, as he described, "the sure thing." I think thats what happened, and as a result there seems to be almost no original stories coming out of Hollywood anymore. And while I think of Redford, I wonder if "All the Presidents Men" would be made today.
Thats not even true, when disney had its renaissance, their motto was literally "we have no obligation to make art, we have an obligation to make money. In order to make money, we need to make good art." What we see now a days, is marxism and communist propaganda through already well establish IPs. As the previous comment said "they rob you and say they are helping you" They rob the already established ideas and say they "made it better"
@@Dany_lop I think you just proved my point 😇 Back in a day Disney was hardly a corporation not by todays standards anyway. Now they are...and they are as creative as pile of dogshit in the middle of pavement.
I like his point about Empire Strikes Back. On paper, it sounds like it could have easily failed because it didn’t follow the same structure as the previous film. They were dead set on continuing the story and they weren’t afraid to take risks and that’s why it turned out to be one of the greatest films ever made.
@Abstract Parasite I believe that George Lucas was an amazing writer but a poor director. If Lucas wouldn't have directed the prequels, they could've been masterpieces.
@@TheHabbadasher Kathleen Kennedy is moron who makes up excuses and ruin pocket pussy is a tool. They're opinions aren't exactly based on great philosophy and logic.
@@MikeDchy25 Kennedy is a fairly skilled producer, as far as I can tell, and Rian Johnson is definitely a talented filmmaker. Their Star Wars stuff might not be the high-point of their careers, but the vitriol against them has more to do with the fact that people on the internet have no sense of proportion. Instead of moving on with their lives when they find themselves disappointed by a big franchise blockbuster, they have to find some sort of nefarious villain or grand conspiracy to blame it on. Next you know, you’ve got a bunch of deranged people running around, convinced they’re fighting to save the soul of western civilization, or some stupid shit like that, by complaining about movies on the internet.
Hear that Nolan you pretentious lucky prick. You need to Entertain me, work on sensible interesting fuller details and plots don't confuse me with childish half baked concepts and boring foreign actors made to play iconic true American roles like Batman. Temporal pincer / Peeping tom gravity book shelf >> MY ASS..🍷😆😎🤷♀️
I was a big Nightcrawler & X-Men the Animated series fan growing up. There was so much diverse aspects of media & it was genuine. The story of mutants was universally relatable. Captain Planet. Spawn was so awesome and the entire world around him is so unique. It's such a creative range of character's, creatures, unique things, weird things, macabre things. I loved how things used to embrace things, odd things, difficult things. Good stories used to be told, in very creative intelligent ways. Nowadays everything is this cheap cop out shallow live action version nonsense. I miss the Era of creativity, of animated series, of things that made us utilize our intelligence and our internal structure that connects us to any character no matter what kind of character, creature, specie's they are. There is so many stories we could be telling and art that could be creating but we are treating our entire audience like they are 2 yr olds that just need shiney keys waved in front of their face for entertainment... But at the end of the day it's very shallow cheap way to entertain... That's how I look at a lot of modern day media. ~~~~~~~~ I sincerely don't think kids who are younger than 20 understand just how open-minded & creative the 90's were. I was born in 1989 & I had a very diverse range of friends. The media, commercials, movies, TV shows were all Genuinely diverse and well made. Man I miss that era and I don't get how we have actually went BACKWARDS. Video games, animated series, TV shows, movies, things to do, everything was just so awesome and creative and people were real. I hope we reconnect with that.
So true, just look at Batwoman. Pure garbage. I know it isn't CW but; female Ghostbusters, Birds of Pray, Wonder Woman 2, Mulan 2020, New Mutants, and the list goes on. Who was this made for and why?
@@dennydude Well, certainly not for China. Those movies flopped just as hard over there. Some of them weren't even shown in China. So much for that excuse.
When I grow up in the 90's I was so excited about all the movies coming out. Now I can't even remember the last time a watched a whole movie. I don't even bother anymore.
Nowadays I could probably speak for the average Joe when I say I'm VERY picky about what's worth buying a movie ticket for. In other news, in any library or book store, manga takes up 70% of shelves next to comics. Pandering has sold absolutely nothing.
WilliamSchlott, I think what you're experiencing is quite simple: you grew up. The real problem is that most movies today are made for a very narrow demographic, that is for the teenager. This is fine if you never grow up, but some of us do develop adult tastes. When I became an adult I was forced to watch movies made in the past because these films were made during a time when popular culture still catered to the tastes of adults.
Yet there are people who argue that it's a beautiful concept that the three never get a single scene together. I was blown away the first time I heard this argument for the sequels.
I have to say. What made the early 2000 and 1990s at least for me was concepts. Back then it was easy to make a small film and get recognized. A movie in a bedroom or even a small trailer for 10 minutes and get it into a studio. Now with how expensive everything is it’s much harder for a small time kid to make a concept made into a Hollywood movie without breaking a bank. It’s going to cost $50,000,000 to $500,000,000. Back then movies casted a fraction to make look at paranormal activity, $15,000, now you need to make sure that your able to make millions off it.
There is a feminist push to have women super heroes. they are all strong and independent, who make snarky/condescending comments about men. It kinda like a revenge toward men movie.
I agree with him but he also wrote and produced My Big Fat Independent Movie starring Pauly Shore so maybe a bit of a hypocrite as his film output is equally garbage.
The marketing being better than the actual product is so true. I've been seeing this trend in entertainment for a while, especially in video game releases
Here is part of the problem you can't promote one of Lucas's captains. You need to bring in a General from some other army. This seems to happen all over society. For some reason we can't let the person who has been the right hand man for years take over when El Capitano steps aside. We need some outsider who knows little about the property but has shown that they could make money leading some other venture to come in and gut the entire core of the team that had made the franchise great.
"That's studio malpractice" Thank God he said these words. As much as I want to be for writers and creators to have as much creative freedom as possible, at some point the project is so big and so important that it becomes more than just a project, but a huge responsibility. Eventually have to put the people first and give them the movie that they need.
The people need? Noooo. Artists and creators should not be subject to the fans. That's the point. When you do that, you're putting a cap on the creativity and potential that could have been. That's why studios who do such reboots and such do not like taking risks. It may bring the possibility of losing viewers. Of losing money or esteem. Fans and people who enjoy the films are great. I'm one of them. But they're not all artists. They're not all filmmakers. They just watch it and appreciate them in their own way. To say that a because a certain story choice the fans would've wanted wasn't made or a choice that was made but they didn't like by the artist is malpractice is such a dramatic claim. The fact that people loved A New Hope was an unexpected surprise.
@@blondetapperware8289 this is true, til you get beloved franchises being mishandled by those who don't know or give jackshit. The star wars prequels, two of them are really bad but its better than the films we have now cuz Lucas knew his franchise It's more about execution and knowing what you're doing rather than catering to fanbases. Because if you know what you're doing with existing franchises, then you won't hear fans complain. When it comes to existing franchises, The "Artist" mentality is becoming an excuse for pisspoor content at this point.
@@clutchcake7717 I think JJ and Rian both appreciate Star Wars. I can't believe either deliberately set out to do any harm to it. I think I could more easily be made to believe more that the stockholders and Iger are more to blame. But yes, I do wish the writers had considered more of George's philosophy for the very last one, especially because it's the very end to the saga. However, there are some good parts to the sequels. I don't think anyone can claim to be looking at it in a balanced way if they couldn't at least acknowledge that there are some. I just think fans shouldn't feel as though these films and characters are entitled to them. If an artist who knows his craft legitimately is behind films like these, even if not all their decisions are well received at first, as long as they're working upon or evolving the story's original themes and writing with skill, I can appreciate that. And I can say there's some of that in TFA and TLJ. The Rise of Skywalker I think I shall resent for awhile, though.
@@blondetapperware8289 I'd argue about rain but it's whatever at this point and I can agree that there are redeeming qualities from the prequels. After all, that's how we got the Clone Wars show. Other than that, this was a well said rebuttal.
In the indie game scene, and I'm sure it's the same with the indie movie scene, they want you to scale it up so to speak, that is if you want low budget, highly controllable, they want you to scale it up until there are so many collaborators that there's little control over anything, and there's so much money there's so much fear over the what the content is that everyone has to play it safe for fear their careers will be lost.
This is so true. Studios almost intentionally produce bad films. It's as if they are abusing their clientele just for the sake of feeling superior. It's frustrating.
@@mikelisteral7863 That doesn’t accomplish anything. People have been pirating for years. Your best hope is making an independent film of your own. Unfortunately most of us don’t have the time, money and resources to do that.
@@jackmcbee3762 Life of Pi was LAST movie that I loved watching in the theaters. These days I basically livestream movies and tv shows. If the movie is one I absolutely love, I buy a physical blu-ray copy of it. Iron Man 3, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, didn't like either of them. DC Extended Universe and Marvel Cinematic Universe are BOTH shit and creatively bankrupt. Toy Story 4 was probably the last movie in recent years that actually lived up to my expectations. And I still waited until it was available for livestreaming.
"Your job is to entertain me, not lecture me" Oh man, speak those sweet words. There is too much politics and shit being spoon-fed to the audience and it's disgusting.
@@shcdemolisher That depends on how subtle and/or nuanced it is, and the example you're giving seems to be one in which that's done pretty well. Nobody likes being bashed over the head with messages about how to think or act. Didacticism kills entertainment.
I don't think cinema will ever die. What I do want is the studio system to crumble or at the very least there be a New Hollywood-like era of the 70's happen.
@@Dragonage2ftw hold a light bulb in one hand and with your other hand stick your finger in an electrical outlet. You'll project more efficiently that way.
That's a dismissive attitude. Hollywood has often become lazy in what they'll invest in but that doesn't mean that the films that are released aren't crafted or aren't artwork, or are somehow differently creative or artistic than they were 20, 50, 80 years ago.
True but I also think it's 1000% okay for there to be underlying themes in movies and shows. I just prefer for anything political, about human rights, or flaws in our society to be SHOWN, not told to us. Movies and shows are a visual medium. Show us, we don't need you to say anything
@@desireandfire yes star wars has always been super political the difference is showing me the flaws of large corporations sexism and racism and modern films going LOOK HE'S A SEXIST GIVE ME MY MONEY FOR BEING SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE
@@desireandfire Exactly. Hell, Avatar was literally just a retelling of how the English came to America and stole land from the natives. But again, it wasn't screamed at us this was it through random little conversations that don't do anything to benefit the story. It was just there, you can see it and focus on that, or just forget it and enjoy a piece of entertainment. Now unless it's said explicitly over and over, because people are apparently just stupid according to Hollyweird, then no one will notice it. Avatar to me was a pretty bad movie, but at least it was, well not subtle, but no so expressive that it was literally said at some point during the movie.
No kind of writer can achieve anything good with the endless remaking or franchising of movies that were not that great anyway. The studios return like dogs to their vomit - and it's really stale. Repeating memes and old children's cartoons ... pathetic.
@Mellow Merlin When you make a movie for everyone and it makes hundreds of millions of dollars, the dominant group gets pissed off, feels left out, and lectured to...lol
Wrong. When you function in a capitalist system with the goal of maximuming profit for your shareholders; telling an original story, creativity, and art are not, and have never been, important...
for me a big problem with the industry today is just the interest in profit margins, everything from movies, videogames, tv streaming etc... in the "AAA" reign for me have been missing the uniquenes depth of media of the old age, to give some examples compare old marvel movies to new ones, compare doom eternal to quake 1 and also notice the ever absense of Studio Ghibili, Psygnosis and Team Ico and some more in the big market realm, people are no longer putting the effort to enjoy art it feels, developers and studios such as the are fading away, meanwhile crap such as call of duty and ever bland super-hero/budget superbudget shows (like ricky and morty) are booming for reasons that are still unclear to me, nothing is making sense anymore, i hate this, there is no more new and daring, there's just safe and cheap.
It goes way back than 2 decades, my friend. Almost every pop culture toy and theme park are based on franchises from the 80s. Star Wars, Jurassic Park, Universal Horror movies, Disney cartoons from 40s. This has been going on for quite some time.
@@Attmay I mean it's mostly just disney. You can't blame the entire industry on one company. We got juggernauts like Paramount, Legendary, Colombia and various smaller film companies who aren't doing franchise films.
@@EthanRom All of those studios are not just making franchise films but each of them have tried to launch cinematic universes. You could argue that Disney is a prime offender but Disney is 75% of the box office so it's going to have 75% of the garbage.
@@michaelwolf8690 Those companies I listed are the biggest film studios in the world. They can definitely go head to head with disney. The original films are out there, you just have to find them. Just look at all the recent Academy Award winners. All great heavy duty movies. Tarantino, Scorsese, Fincher and etc aren't going anywhere and there are tons of young talent following their footsteps. People have to relax, disney ain't ruining anything. The big franchise movies today are just modern versions of franchise films like Aliens, Star Wars, Terminator, Rambo and etc.
Lack of good movies to watch was one of the primary motivations for me to write my own screenplay. It's better than most of what I see on the screen. A lot of what I start never gets finished because it is a complete waste of time.
I was born after the prequels so sadly I knew that Vader was Luke's father so that wasn't as big of a line but I still love Revenge of the Sith and Empire Strikes Back
For sure- A big part of the problem are sites like Rotten Tomatos and "woke" social justice reviewers like Chris Stuckman who give a false sense of what movies most people actually enjoy watching
She didn’t kill mine. My love for the original 6 will never change just because a different studio makes sequels to it that I don’t really like. What I love about Star Wars will always exist in George’s movies an no movie Kathleen shits out is ever going to change that
Disney never took away my love of Star Wars, because the mythology, magic and stories that Lucasfilms give me, from the 6 movies to The Clone Wars, all are still and will forever be alive, and thanks to Dave Filoni, as well as all the other people that help bring the franchise back to life in The Mandalorian, Bad Batch and even Rogue One, that love is growing once again, and a new bright future for our franchise is now upon us, thanks to people who really understands and loves the franchise as much as all of the fans of the journey on a galaxy far far away
i have turned my back on hollywood a long time ago, not just have the movies become terrible but now we also get to know more about how this system works and how many predatory people function there which sickens me even more than the fact that the movies of today are just a remake of another remake...
with you, "squaresided". Like I said on another comic book collecter video, I no longer collect modern comics and haven't even bothered to see a superhero movie OR SUPERHERO TV show on Disney Plus or Netflix or Hulu or HBOMax. I get tired of the politics or "agenda-preach".
I'm gathering up all of my favorite films and TV on disc so they cant be Soviet-style deleted. I'm pretty much firmly of the opinion "You Hollywood types stay away from the good things, you'll just break them." Like the He-Man series coming out. I want to like it, I really do, but I'm almost certain they're going to shoehorn in garbage.
Criterion never lets me down. Even their more mediocre selections are more exciting/intriguing than what modern corporate big studios are putting out lately, IMO
I'm betting that most of them are the classics everyone recognizes, but what about the other 99.9% that has fallen by the wayside because it was the garbage of their day? How many movies were made every year from 1910 to 2020 and how many have you actual seen or even heard of? LOL
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Malpractice. That word alone explains your whole episode. Profound and true. Hollywood needs CPR...CLEAR!!!
@@nasalpolecat091 … No! Do not resuscitate - put Hollywood out of its misery!
@JamieVLacey Ahem Caddyshack. 4.8 million in 1980. (sh8T he mentioned it 3 mins later...lol)
I totally agree.There would be a lot better movies if politics and propaganda was out of Hollywood .A great example is prejudice against certain cultures is what I noticed
All hope is not lost, Karen the movie is out soon and industry insiders are saying it’s a shoo in for best picture next year.
I'm a Black guy. I have enjoyed Black cinema my entire life. There was no shortage of Black films, music, sports, TV shows etc. Our representation in the 70s,80s, 90s, 00s was always huge. But to my surprise, in the last part of the 2010s I have tons of companies acting as if none of this exists. As if they are the saviors of Black entertainment. I have 20 somethings telling me I don't know my own history. I have people saying "Finally, we have a Black superhero" Forgetting about Spawn, Blade, Steel, Meteor Man, etc. Just make good movies, I don't need multi-millionaires preaching to me about anything.
@Tranzor Z They even said Idris Elba's character Luther wasn't Black enough. They wanted more Black stereotypes to be represented. These people are sick
Ikr, these today young woke writers never even watched the 80s 90's or early 2000s movies, they only just going to start their conversation with assumptions, I bet you a million dollars they never seen menace ll society or dead Presidents or blade
Yes! I hear you man. As a Mexican American I had less representation in Hollywood but I didn't care because I still felt a connection with those people regardless of skin color.
I agree A. Most of those were really good films and series. When entertainment became politicized, the quality of all hero-cannon suffered.
I felt like I was the only one annoyed when people kept making a big deal about Black Panther being the first black Marvel movie when we literally had Blade and the others you mentioned. Like it got to the point where it was uncomfortable and I just wanted to see the movie because I’m a big Marvel fan and I didn’t really care about the race of the hero’s.
It’s so refreshing to see someone in Hollywood totally honest about how terrible Hollywood has become.
Became?
Eh I feel like Christopher Nolan is still pretty great and definitely counts as a visionary especially among the others.
Agreed this is hard facts
@@kintamas4425 Only his first batman film was good, the sequels were awful.
@@LiberatedMind1 what are you talking about? His second one could be considered the peak of the trilogy. Have you forgotten the wild popularity of Heath Ledger’s Joker?!
"your job is to entertain me, not lecture me"
perfect summation of why modern "entertainment" fails time and time again
Or better yet, "your job is to entertain me, not brainwash me"
@Kaos no it’s bc they lecture at all
@@gideon_3174 movies shouldn’t try to go for any themes?
@@liamhand4337 no, they shouldn’t try to shove an agenda down my throat
@@gideon_3174 you’re just watching shit movies bro
"In an age where most movies are referred to as content..." Best opening line ever.
@@rmejche didn’t say that he said it’s sad that his cut was turned into absolute garbage bc of the studio
As bad as chain restaurants referring to the food as "product". They lost the battle right there.
It would be even better if he said "films" instead of "movies"
@Stepan_Sevastianov Actually, films is an acceptable term alongside movies.
Lies again? Garbage Trash USD SGD
"Your job is to entertain me, not lecture me. Not lecture me."
Disney has left the chat.
I have dislikes Disney for a long long time... it was never a secret that Disney was a terrible company/organization. But I guess since people are so willing to look the other way to keep their children entertained... they never realized that they were helping fund a stain upon humanity's image.
LMAO imagine disney lecturing anyone on ethics while filming a remake of Mulan right next to concentration camps.
@@Mastikator dude this
Honestly, I wish Hollywood as a whole would just shut up and get back to work.
The thing is, politics can be in movies, as long as the issue at hand is discussed openly, i.e., make a movie *about* the issue. It’s the manipulation and covert messaging that ruin movies that are not made for that type or content (for lack of a better word).
"Back then the checkbox was just Fun. Today, there are so many boxes that need to be checked"
This is so freaking true.
I can see Checked Boxes from a Mile away.
There were always checkboxes, certain tropes that were known to be successful or popular. But certainly still more room for artistic integrity and freedom.
That's for the Bitcoin millionaire snowflake generation
Yes
@@ageaustin426 What?
“The fact that we will never have Han, Luke, and Leia together again is malpractice…” broke my heart.
What did he mean by that?
@@ericwitt4359 It means that they wasted the last chance to bring the whole group back together one more time... something fans would have loved to see and not trying to bank on that idea (and killing them off in a dull way) is one of the greatest sins you can make when it comes to story telling. (Remember he said the most important rule is to entertain the viewer, not lecture them).
The fact tht Abrams effin' KILLED HAN-!! 4 THT - I CANNOT 4giv him or the Exec's tht greenlit the Plot...STUPID!!
It’s documented that Harrison Ford wanted the character to die since the Original Trilogy, so it’s not 100% Abrams’ fault
A stunning indictment of Hollywood lol
Part of the issue is they eliminated the mid-budget movie and instead everything is either a blockbuster or an indie...losing that middle ground removed the storytelling side of it and removed a lot of the fun popcorn flicks that used to keep the theatres busy.
This!!!
This applies to gaming as well. It's either a bloated AAA production that's too big to do anything good or a tiny indie studio that struggles to keep itself afloat let alone reach a high level of production. It's insane.
Kinda like how they're destroying the entire middle class.
I've seen 1 minute janky TH-cam animations more entertaining than any movie made in the past 12 years at least
What movie is not a popcorn flick?
The problem is they're not making movies, they're making franchises. That's the business.
They also just piggyback on already thriving franchises and milk the shit out of it there's no new ideas and content or originality
You're comment is too political /s
Bingo
Thank marvel for that.
@@900p8 "Marvel truly is the anime of the West" - Flashgitz
"Just write a great character - not try to shoehorn in a type." PREACH.
The problem with this is that whenever a minority character is introduced they're scrutinized way more by people who just claim to want good characters. Loads of generic action films with boring white male leads come out and no bats an eye, but one film releases with a female protagonist and everyone loses their minds.
directors are not driven by fans audience!
Facts
I think that's almost impossible to do in a movie, 2 hrs of time with 30 mins of main character story progression (which is massively high for a movie) is just not enough. Obviously some do it pretty well like Joker or Shawshank redemption. That's why I watch series mostly because there's far more room for character and story development.
@@dustinakadustin Alien & Aliens. Ripley, female lead. Strong independent woman loved by all. Terminator, sarah connor female lead, possibly the strongest action character ever, eventually killed by the latest SJW film.
Gina Carano defended by the fans when she was bullied, was defended by the fans on an incredible scale that has totally fucked Disney up. The fans defending her showed the very sexist argument they were using against fans was complete and utter bullshit.
“I miss loving Star Wars” that really hit with me. Use to love Star Wars unconditionally, now I’ve grown cold to it as I’ve watched it fall into darkness
And I could love Star Wars even if they chose Luke to fall to the dark side, if the idea of new Jedi order was questioned and the faults of the Jedi order during the Clone Wars were elaborated on.
They could still go this route, but they should have just told that story, instead of "focusing on the positive message". What they think is positive is really off, and it's the viewer who should make up his own mind on the story. Not being propagandized.
Instead of exploring those concepts in-universe, they decided to basically break the 4th wall and preach about the dangers of toxic musculinity, slander tradition, preach diversity, and mock capitalism (being the most hypocritical message of all).
What Disney didn't realize is that (formerly) hard-core STAR WARS fans like myself didn't watch the series for its high drama or for its stories. We watched it for all the surface stuff: the aliens, the technology, the exotic planets, the action sequences - all the things we could easily evoke at home by playing with the Kenner toys. To me, the story and characters merely served the purpose of moving all that spectacle along. I'm sorry if that sounds superficial, but it's true. Disney forgot that STAR WARS was intended for children from the very beginning, and that children don't demand much self-importance or gravitas from their entertainment. When you're making a high-concept movie for children, labyrinthine plots and complex characters tend to get in the way of the actual entertainment.
Well the movies are trash but the series’s on Disney+ are quality IMO
Idk why they can make side characters in the clone wars and after more interesting than the actual main characters in the sequel trilogy
@@Blades_00 Me? I'll take the Bantam novels, the Dark Horse comic books, and the vintage video games (ESPECIALLY "Shadows of the Empire") any day.
@@SeasideDetective2 well yeah the comics are goated
I want an old republic tv/movie with revan but I don’t think we’ll be getting that anytime soon
Some top movies of 1994 were Forrest Gump, Pulp Fiction, Shawshank Redemption, Leon The Professional, Clerks, Four Weddings and a Funeral, Natural Born Killers, and a whole slew of other great ones. Granted, that was for some reason, an exceptional year but still, why can't Hollywood come even close to making anything like those any more?
wokeness kills creativity is why
when they try and make a movie that includes everyone so it doesn't offends anyone so anyone can enjoy it based on their standards, you end up with a movie that appeals to nobody except for woke people like them
@@nanigans_pr9278 Hopefully one day Hollywood will come to its' senses...
You experienced the apex of storytelling of this production era. Most Hollywood movies borrow other peoples creativity. Culminates it together as a framework. Even the professional musicians copied their musical talents from other creators. From a long time ago. Once they had money. They were able to interview some of the most bizarre people within our culture. Including criminals. Hollywood is a sandwhich put together by a circus. But they ran out of new ingredients. Telling a 3d story and displaying it on a 2D screen. Limited by time and a budget. It can't even replace well written novels. Technology has ruined people's attention span. Bad editing in a movie with too many cut scenes. It's as annoying as watching a movie with commercials.
No😅All the movies you mentioned are garbage too, only less worse than the super hero movies and today's trash lol Cinema died at the end of the 50s with the fall of the studio system and end of the golden era, so unfortunately, all the black roles after that are meaningless. The 70s were also trash, just boring trash
I’ve been re-watching the Lord of the Rings trilogy and it’s really making me miss the days when you would see that amount of effort put into a film to make it as good as it can possibly be.
That's because, at its core, LotR was a passion project. You can truy feel the love it was made with. That, for me, makes it the last Hollywood megaproduction, a form of art that will never be seen again.
Contrast it to The Hobbit, the hacked and butchered executive product. The difference is night and day.
Try Kung fu panda and how to train your dragon
I know dude, even though the lord of the rings movies were super long they were and still are enjoyable which is the one thing modern movies lack. You can't watch a modern movie today more than once, they're just so bad that if a 3 hour movie was made no one would watch it (the only exception are marvel movies)
@@artbargra People really love to hate the hobbit films, don't they
@@psychomantis8007 They were such a disappointment. As standalone films, they might be passable. But as prequels to LotR, they're awful. And with all the things happening around their production, it's a miracle that they got made at all.
I wanted to love those movies, but damn are they bad at almost every level.
I used to work in the industry and a movie producer's thirteen year old son asked me if I had any ideas for film projects.
I asked him why he was asking ME and he said "My dad can't think of anything so he asked me if I could come up with something. I can't think of anything, either."
And that's Hollywood.
Classic
Well, that's because "new ideas" never used to come from producers and marketing stuff, which is the standard now.
A talented script writer and a good director used to come to a a producer and explain their project, which they had to convince the production it was worth to risk on.
Now a producer and a marketeer look around to what is mainstream, chose a franchise from the early nineties, set a list of boxes to be checked, always including " The Message!" To appease the industry intelligentsia, chose the main characters on base of gender age pool targeting and colour, instead of "acting competence", then call an underpaid writer working on a wage and tell him to put together a fast and easy to understand plot that contains all the surmentioned checkboxes. Once they have it, in a couple of weeks, they call upon a "trusted" director, well known to do the "homework" without asking too much in creative terms and a special effect studio to fake all the stunts and the "pew pews"...
Star wars XXI is born.
@Grichka Bogdanoff They would have stolen that idea for themselves
Hollywood is now Commiewood
This comment is so dumb it actually hurts my head
His point about Leia, Han and Luke not having a scene together was so true and it had never really crossed my mind before
Yeah that never occurred to me but DUH!
In the new movies Han is a failed father who didn't learn any lessons and went back to his old life, Luke, the man who once saw enough good on Darth Vader to not give up on him, is basically just a coward and a failure as well.
This is all very deliberate. They were never going to give fans the story they wanted and the one that we would have loved. Everything is subversion. Pay attention to the messages we receive from any media
So true, i never realized that
Are those the jocks? The nerds of the consumers are those jocks? Uhh...yep maybe. Corporate jocks run the industry and cow tow to China too much. Those that are successful in the media business protect their interests.
Let's also not forget the scene that has C-3PO saying that he is taking one last look at his "friends"....yet none of the people present save for Chewbacca was actually one of his friends. Luke, Leia, and Han weren't there and we were stuck with a bunch of empty, unlikable, wasteful excuses for characters let alone what should be the next generation of galactic heroes. None of them were and it wasn't fair. Just like having a talentless hack like Freddie Prinze Jr. openly attack the fans of the franchise who aren't here for the mediocrity and bastardization of what they love.
I'm 46 and I have a 16 year old daughter and we watch lot of movies together. No lie, 95% of the movies we watch are from when I was a kid. 5% are from when she was a kid. So sad.
Same here man. Like, I WISH we could watch newer stuff but my sons themselves ask me for old stuff. They rather be a bit disconnected culturally with their friends at school but watch good movies.
This is it exactly! I'm 47 and I'm thinking about the movies I'd want to pass onto my niece someday and all I can think of are the 80s/90s classics....that really hit me that something has been lost big time.
No, that's cool! She watches better movies thanks to you.
You're both watching children's movies?
Because movie companies think when they wake up”money is power and happiness” and make sequels and prequels that nobody cares for or awful movies from their behind.
“Ripley was just a great Character”.
Exactly. Most people don’t know how to write a “strong female character” because that is what they are trying to do. Great characters are great for what they do, how they do it, and why they do it - not for what they are.
But what made Ripley great was that she wasn’t surrounded by bumbling idiots. Strong characters need strong characters to side with and against them. Otherwise they are just the least lame/weak.
@Kaos It makes a lot of sense, she was literally a normal person, and we loved that.
I liked Alien because you didn't automatically identify Ripley as a main character. The first time I watched it she was just another person on this ship with an alien killing machine on the loose. There was a real sense of danger to ALL the characters including Ellen Ripley.
Ripley started as a strong character, the female part came second
She was a great character, who happened to be female.
These days, there's too much attempt at "she's a great character, BECAUSE she's female"
Ripley was a great character to me, bc when I was 10 yrs old first time watching Aliens and she was just kicking a...i was like yay I knew girls could kick a...she was my hero...it was literally the first time ever I had seen a female be the hero of the story not that I had a problem with my ghostbusters or Indiana...bc I did not at all, it was just FUN to see a girl kick a...everyone here has made great points...and even now when Sigourney shows up as a cameo in other movies...it just brightens my day!
Movies feel insanely soulless nowadays, so many modern movies I have watched have all left me empty. None of them leave you feeling a type of way. It’s hard to explain
Thank the feminist and political libtards for ruining your movies
It's rare but, Top Gun Maverick was fantastic!
I think they are much more straightforward nowadays, before it made you feel good to guess the themes and nuances of the movie or show correctly but now it's all on your face, whoever didn't understand what she-hulk was all about with the femsplaining scene didn't pay attention at all
Yeah sadly western i.e., American, movies and shows have become so bad I no longer watch. The art and craft are gone. I watch anime now, and damn those people try really hard to tell proper stories, and only the best stories that people want to read and watch make it big (a case of if your work is genuinely good than it can succeed, their biggest issue is the market is PACKED by competition so if you dont make it fast you might get dropped which can be a bad thing with good concepts)
Joker
"That last star wars movie by JJ Abrams is unwatchable, it is garbage"
Thanks for saying that man
Yeah like it wasn't enough after 3 years of hate and how much new"trilogy" (even though two directors had different plans for characters) sucks.
@@vernusred4757 appreciate it whenever someone bashes on it
Honestly, all star wars movies are unwatchable, people love the original ones only because they grew up watching it.
@@goodbrainwork bruh
@@nsawatchlistbait289 Especially when you compare SW fans to LOTR fans
When the studios and actors start to attack the fans when a film bombs, and those people are not immediately fired it should tell you everything you need to know about what's really going on.
They robbed us all to produce propaganda, only a dictator would tell the people to stfu and listen to them.. They also seem to have been on a mission to turn it inside out all along since acquiring the IP us OGs are calling them on their BS. SW was never even divisive or exclusive until they started taking it down the dark path
I think the problem is that most movies these days feel the need to please everybody. So they never take "risks" and we end up with a "Jack of all trades, Master of none".
Jack of all traits? More like sucking ass equally in all regards to make it equally painful to watch for all audiences.Today's movies are carried by the flashy CGI instead of good writing,that's why they suck.
They’re not catering to everyone. They cater to Leftist ideology solely and absolutely. This isn’t entertainment: it’s indoctrination.
They’ll lose money until they go back to entertaining.
They cater to feminist and cancel culture cowards
@@scottnolan2833 Lmao one side thinks everyone who sh*ts on movies are buncha Fascist rightists and the others think movies are leftist brainwashers. Truly the pinnacle of American division
This is it exactly
This man is spittting so much truth, I had to duck in front of my screen.
No, it goes way deeper. But this is a great video for people not quite awake but realize something is wrong with the world.
YES! Exactly.
Don’t be afraid of the truth.
this man also makes garbage movies
It's kind of hilarious that he's complaining about modern cinema being filled with politics, when his own opinions can ONLY BE EXPLAINED by, you know, politics. Why is it that culture is "fractured" nowadays? Why is it that the 70's was the last great era of American movies? Why is it that people had movies that everyone loved without argument? *ALL* of those things are inherently political: the USA was the great saviour of the world back then, people had a common enemy, many social prejudices and injustices were justified by the need for economical prosperity and global influence. All of that has changed.
If that fella ever talked to a Latin American person who watched the invasion of American cinema during the early years of the Cold War, he'd know what it's ACTUALLY like for movies to be "filled with politics". Your movies weren't about "fun", they were all about indoctrination and cultural colonialism. We were taught that us, third world countries, could only succeed with the fatherly hand of the United States, and we believed it. And you're complaining about politics in 2021? Well, ain't that a pity...
"Your job is to entertain me, not lecture me." THANK YOU!!! Mainstream movies have forgotten this.
That's because they're political propaganda!
Define lecture. There's movies from the 80s and 90s that had some of the same messages yet few people complained.
Edit: in fact, aside from the Die Hards, Lethal Weapons, Speeds, and Predators of yesteryear, I'd argue that films have almost always been an opportunity for filmmakers to voice something they have to say. There's countless films that had a message, it's just much easier to swallow when you actually agree with it.
@@chrisjfox8715 Exactly and people are just becoming aware of this, but the 80s/90s films were just as guilty of it
@@chrisjfox8715 every facet of a movie is political posturing or influenced by marketing. This terrible method was started in 1980s true... those are the movies I hated then. This current age is well beyond those though
This is nonsense. Any movie that lectures is obviously and universally considered bad. 90% bad movies have been around since the beginning, there's just more opportunity for them to be seen on all of the platforms. There's no new overwhelming conspiracy of "political movies". Thats complete bullshit. lol
Going to the movies has become that “Well, there’s nothing else to do. Anything tolerable playing?” I used to sit for half an hour listening to the automated movie times for the weekend trying to decide which ones I could see. Now. Maybe one or two a year I’ll invest in and maybe one won’t suck.
I remember calling and getting the list of movies available to watch, we knew not what we had.
“Strong female character” we want =
A well written character who happens to be female
“Strong female character” we get = physically strong character that is right even when they’re wrong and doesn’t listen to anyone because they know better than everyone else
Sadly Hollywood is incapable of making well written characters male or female anymore
Plus they mention they're a woman every five minutes to remind us they are a strong female lead.
Exactly. Write the stories as if everyone is a white dude, then go in after the fact and change some of them to be women or XYZ ethnicity or LGBT and tweak small details later on as needed to enhance those quality characters.
woah they really did loop all the way back around to toxic masculinity
There's a lot of strong female leads in adult films.
I feel like even really bad movies from decades ago had a sense of wholesomeness and emotional intelligence to them. These days even the best movies are so bland and corporate.
yea cheesy bad CGI but you feel like you are having fun not wanting to get a refund
You nailed it. It's corporate and they don't go by intelligence or art, they go by some stupid spread sheet given to them by some college kid who skated through his semesters because either he came from a rich family or used some affirmative action program to get in. It's no longer about what you know, but who you know.
Yep before they went full cookie cutter mode.
Yep! I'm a HUGE movie history fan, and it is REALLY Hard to find an old movie that did not have some entertainment value, no matter how low budget.
I remember straight to video movies of the 80s. They weren’t superbly made, but had some wholesomeness to them.
“Evil is not capable of creating anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” - J.R.R. Tolkien
This from Tolkien who created the most mesmerizing world. Where did he get that goodness? I think it came from Jesus. In a time where so many people denounce Jesus, the source of all goodness, no wonder the content being put out is terrible. It's all dark and moral less.
@@paulamorris7466 Truth! Christ is King - all good things come from him
Yes Tolkein made a profoundly Christian statement. He was a thinker who it seems understood the nature of evil. The only words I would add to his statement are : the nature of evil is 'to steal, kill and destroy'. The 'stealing' bit is what he was alluding to. Glory be to our Lord.
@3,14 _ It's a mistake to take things from a time before science literally.
@@Storebrand_ It's a mistake to think so simplistically about "science", which did exist in the ancient past.
“Your job is to entertain me , not lecture me”, yep, the lecturing is why I only watch old films.
“If you stop paying to watch bad movies, they’ll stop making bad movies”.
I MOST CERTAINLY DO NOT PAY TO SEE BAD MOVIES!!!
@@msthang5366 real chads use pirate sites
They never have in the past.
That's why I don't pay to watch movies
It's all those China bucks man us as Americans are irrelevant
"I miss loving Star Wars" -- the man hacked my brain
Yeah I felt that down to my bones.
Yeah i hate new star wars they ruined it completely
No joke, it’s a true crime that no one is paying for.
@@jaxsonfanta5420 the opposite of paying for, in fact.
He is completely correct what happened to Star Wars.
This interview is more entertaining and thrilling than most movies today.
yup
but how can they do an animated spinoff...? 😭
I was gonna say that it was more of a rant than an interview, then he himself said it at the very end 😂
Isn't it nice to hear an interview where "It will make misogynistic men tremble with fear!!!" is never said?
It’s Cringey.
I can't stand that Hollywood is TERRIFIED to take even a slight teensy bit of a risk so instead opt to make the blandest movies that are inoffensive to every possible demographic
And still don't make any money
"Originality is dead." I did youth counselling and I heard variations of this many times ("Individuality is dead"). Kids are afraid to express themselves because they will be publicly shamed on unSocial Media if they do.
Hollywood has completely embraced nepotism as the driving culture. Before if you had a touch of talent you could make a movie, but now talent has taken a back seat to Who You Know. To protect this behavior they have weaponized behavioral psychology to make young people unhappy all the time, with the need to blame others for their own failures.
then we need to take their weapon and pull a reverse uno on them and force them to watch the movies we like until they break
@@TomorrowWeLive Wrong. Shove your antisemitism.
Nepotism is the modus operandi of the untalented and unskilled. They place friends in position below them because they are afraid of skilled subordinates that are smarter than they are.
It's about money man. You want movies to take risks, go watch middle budget movies. Studios are going to interfere because quarter billion dollar movies are terrifying to finance. You want studios to step away from the project, gotta get middle budget movies successful again. Enough funding that the director can do what they want but not so much that the studio is scared to fund it. Aka, stop watching spiderman, start watching mortal kombat.
@@ELFanatic wouldn't netflix or A24 be a good example of this? I heard netflix allows great freedom, especially since they're still trying to boaster their roaster. Eg. The Irishman (budget and length). But I do understand what you mean.
@@jophillips1464 Absolutely. But netflix ain't hollywood and this guy is directly talking about movies. And if he wants to watch movies that take risks, he has to watch movies that took those risks, if the risk paid off or not.
As I've been saying for years now, "if Hollywood ever had an original thought in their head, they'd probably assume it was tumor".
Their last original idea was the "Inception" movie...
LOL! I LOVE IT!!!! So perfectly put!
Why do you need to quote yourself?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I've been saying this for years now, "the movie consuming public are a bunch of spoiled brats". Whats your original concept Spielberg? Bust out your laptop & show us how its done, nothing stopping you. How many Hollywood movies do you click on & watch every week. Boo hoo.
“You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could and, before you even knew what you had, you patented it and packaged it and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox.”
Sir Ian Malcolm from the Jurassic Park. He genuinely warned us about the future of Hollywood. We were just too blind to see it.
Great quote
I don't know if there is a movie quote that has more everlasting relevance that this one
When he was asking what is one movie that everyone loved, the first movie I thought of was Jurassic Park. I have yet to hear one person say they didn't love it.
Wisdom!
Thank you for giving a voice to people that don't agree with what the movies/series have become today! It's sad what's happening...
Sad but just what they need they've taken their audiences for granted they have to learn a lesson
"Your job is to entertain me, not lecture me." this is the most important point.
💯
Oh like your lecturing now you mean,
@@itsnotrightyouknow gottem ?
@@itsnotrightyouknow i dunno what you trying to say, but he got a good point..Majority of normal working class people, dont care about this woke culture, this shit spawned from people who have good high paying jobs, never knew physical work, only work in office and are disconnected from reality...Thats why rings of power sucks, cause its show about diversity, and woke values not entertairment
The success of Topgun Maverick proves everything he says is true...
He's totally right about those check boxes ruining everything. I work on a Children's TV show. And we are banned from animating sad or angry emotions... It's a struggle to make it look entertaining.
Fascinating. You'd think connecting with those basic emotions like sadness and anger would be a big deal for young kids!
Wtf XD
That's like China levels of manipulation XD
"if we just censor these feelings noone can feel them" LOL
what the fuck
Now i understand why that Arthur scene, where he punches his sister, is memorable
How young of a children's show? Like toddlers, or older than that?
It is honestly hilarious how Disney managed to take a franchise with a massive built-in audience and worldwide renown and then run it so deep into the ground that now they only try to make kid shows out of it.
Hilarious... or just sad... I don't know...
@@beyondlimitationsvideo It's both.
It IS a kid show!! Lucas has said in numerous interviews that he made this movie for kids
I agree with Dan. All of the armchair writer/directors in the comments just don't wanna say it: "I guess i'm just old now"
@@dallasdandigitalproduction393 No, this is not true. Neither the original three movies nor the prequels were made specifically for children. That's a line that Lucas made up after every (honest) adult who saw The Phantom Menace said it was terrible - although yes, part of that movie was designed to rope in a new generation of fans.
But all six of the first movies were intended to be fun for the whole family. (Note that Luke gets his hand chopped off in the second one - imagine if Aladdin had gotten his hand chopped off for stealing.) Frankly, I think you're hard-pressed to make the argument for any of the sequels either. They rely heavily on nostalgic references that kids won't get, for starters. And everyone dies at the end of Rogue 1.
It's so sad to see the MCU make a turn for the worse, too. I really enjoyed the first few movies like the original Ironman and The First Avenger. Midway through I felt like they were watchable and enjoyable, but not great. Now we have She Hulk and even though I really like Tatiana Maslany, I couldn't even finish the first episode without wanting to throw stuff at my tv. It all comes down to profit margins for the cast and the execs. You have to cut corners to live like Smaug on a mountain of money.
"Too many cooks spoil the broth."
Especially when 4 of 5 Cooks are business people don't care about the taste of the meal.
Hollywood is too woke to be entertaining anymore ! they're too busy being politically correct and preaching to be entertaining anymore ! I prefer independent, small budget movies that are interesting and not so preachy !!
warner brother execs not hiring th DC animation department to handle the live action movies
Great, now I have that Too Many Cooks! theme song in my head :D
Sounds like school meal providers.
You mean 5 out 5. Cooks are no longer allowed in the Hollywood restaurant kitchen.
I feel that Empire Strikes Back aged so well because it focused on characters and not spectacle
The Battle of Both was spectacle though, and it was amazing. But you are right, the characters were still the central point
Yes, I also think it was both. The spectacle is still there fourty years later. Incredible!
I think that's a big reason why Captain America: Winter Soldier is still regarded as one of the best Marvel films overall. The Russo Brothers said multiple times that their narrative drive for that film was to push and test who Steve Rodgers is with the most adverse challenges to the point that he had to stay true to himself even against a faction that he originally thought was made for good.
@@SPIRE_FAN superhero movies are overrated
@@StonedCabbage Using genre as a filter to predetermine judgement on individual films is ignorant.
This is refreshing to see. He's putting words to what I've felt for years: modern Hollywood films don't feel like art or even entertainment as much as they feel like a collection overly-safe and tropey checkboxes backed by multi--million-dollar global marketing budgets. Studio executives don't look at film as a medium for expression as much as a medium for checking these boxes, and as a result, these films lack *soul.*
Yup, i have been going back to movies like Contact with Jodie Foster and omg the excitement in that film is brilliant. Sure the technology has advanced and we have better visuals today but the tension they manage to build in that movie and the ending is a feel good movie and i went straight to talk to my folks about how much i really miss a movie that makes me feel that way. It has a female lead that is held back but it’s done in a way that I don’t feel i am being shamed as a male for it and find my self routing for her all the way. I can think of numerous movies like that that leave you feeling really satisfied from that era. Shawshank Redemption, The Green Mile, and we can name numerous Robin Williams movies which are just pure fun! We need that back!
@@starcraft-bo2mk Agreed on Jodie Foster's role in Contact. The character feels real and human, not type-cast to fulfill an agenda. It reminds me of how George R. R. Martin was asked about how he wrote female characters so well. His response: "You know, I've always considers women to be people."
@@markhantla7915 Absolutely 👍
yep
Your surely right. I've felt this way about the TV studio industry in the last 5 years or so. With so many reboots of shows now being produced, this clearly tells me there are no creative writers in this field. Nobody can come up with something new and different. So, I go indie now. From Europe, Turkey, Mongolia, and others. These shows can be a simple 30 minute story on life, or 90 minutes of a quest by real actors, sure, low paid, but real acting. Very refreshing.
There's little optimism for the future nowadays. Considering how bleak everything feels at the moment, a boost of optimism and happiness is well-needed but instead all we get is a reflection of how shitty things are.
I remember Slavoj Zizek talking about this. His counterintuitive take is that optimism is dangerous to the elites because disappointed optimism is when revolutions happen. It's better for the elites to keep us in this constant state of hopeless light depression by depriving us of any inspiring narratives.
Star Wars was an indie movie. That's why it was so good. It was eventually financed properly, but its entire production started as an indie movie.
Also the plagiarism of actually great Akira Kurosawa helped.
@@owengenther957 I also think there were some Dune influences (from the books).
@@stephaniebfi4297 I've heard that too. I also just read that a lot of the scenes, characters, costume and ship designs in the Star Wars trilogy can be found in the comics Valerian and Laureline, which came out years before the movie.
It cost 11 million to make. That is 49 million in today’s money. For comparison, a massive studio film the same month, Sorcerer, cost 20 million.
That it’s utter shit is neither here or there, it ain’t indie.
The OG Star Wars was a studio production,The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi were technically indies
"I miss loving Star wars".
EXACTLY!
My feelings on Star Trek and James Bond exactly.
Exactly man!, wtff!!
We still have the George Lucas Saga and the "Legends" material (which is still outselling the schlock original content that Disney has been shoveling out). The Clone Wars/Rebels/Bad Batch and Mandalorian are still good because they still have Dave Filoni involved, and George was grooming him to be the one to take over for him. As long as Filoni/Favreau stay involved with Lucasfilm, the stuff they put out is true-to-form.
Everything else, though, is complete trash and it's pretty heartbreaking to watch Disney and Kathleen Kennedy take an enormous corporate shit over a universe that has been such a foundational thing for so many people. I think there's a light at the end of the tunnel, though, as Disney begins to feel the sting in their balance books about how little money the Kathleen Kennedy controlled shit has made them.
@@caseypayne5138 George Lucas ficked up Star Wars since the prequels. At some point you'll realize that brands don't matter as much as time does. It's a hard lesson that most people ignore.
@@ELFanatic 100% disagree. The prequels had some hokey dialogue and bad acting...but so did the OT. The Prequels are also a masterclass in worldbuilding, visual storytelling, and brought out probably the coolest era in the Expanded Universe. They're also fun as hell. I can't say the same for the Didney films save for Rogue One and maybe Solo
The problem is that Movies USED TO determine culture...NOW movies are being determined BY culture or lack of it.
I finally understand what the expression "The tail is wagging the dog" means now.
More like there's an imbalance. Many films have a bit of the latter
Very profound thought. Movies like the matrix like you say used to be so creative and original that it shaped the world around it. You had people running up walls and trying to do the bullet scene. Now the outside world and its politics shape how the movie is being made. It's all agenda based.
@@Physicks499 The Wachowskis were visionaries
facts
@Bang Upyourbumhole movies are not the same as propaganda talking heads who are paid to brainwash you, movies are art
This is 100% accurate and I have felt like society has been gaslight in a major way the last decade and told that black people have been such a rarity in pop culture/ entertainment…basically erasing the existence of several decades of entertainment.
We really have reached a dark time in the entertainment industry. Movies, shows, sports, gaming, etc. It doesn't matter. Everything has sold its soul and we wonder why everything is falling apart. Integrity is dead.
If u are looking for good unic gaming experience, then u should look for indie games. They are the future of gaming
Maybe internet is really double edge sword for this world
@@hazohappy7060 yea social media plays a big part in that
It's because general education is so terrible. People read less. Many don't read the classics. They are disconnected from high culture. And we have forces claiming that there is no high culture, that everything is relative and cannot be judged as better or worse. This shows in the film industry.
"Fun" has become the new 4-letter word. The original Star Wars, in 1977 had a trailer that hardly showed anything. The last true Star Wars movie was the prequel Rogue Squadron. The last movie I watched in a theater was "Top Gun: Maverick. It was fun, had heart and no politics. It's call "escapeism" for a reason. I'm 67yrs. old and I've enjoyed TV, movies ,music and Video games.I used to record the Academy Award but the last good 9ne I can remember was in 2000. Billy Crystal was the host and it was good. Now it's garbage. In 2022 it was the TV Audience that truly got a "Slap to the Face." Go back to the age of just giving out the awards, in private, and announcing them on The News in 5 minutes. Thank goodness for Turner Classic Movies/ TCM and others that let me excape, for a few hours, and not feel guilty or a victim. "If you build it (Good). They (We) will come"
"your job is to entertain me, not lecture me" - BAM - spot on.
Well it’s really to distract and program people under the guise of art and entertainment
Except that's not true. Film covers a wide gamut of priorities, including the lecture.
@@krane15 Yeah, and most people avoid "the lecture" in movies like the plague. If we want lectures, we take college classes. Don't need to be lectured to by entertainers.
@@historyandhorseplaying7374 You missed my point. First, a lecture is not always a criticism or admonishment. In a good film the lecture can be instruction sometimes hidden and unavoidable. Second, film can do so much more than just entertainment. It can also serve as the ultimate medium for education.
@@krane15 And I think you missed my point-- I don't go to watch movies for "education", as I'm already far better educated than those who made the film. I go to films for entertainment. Again, if I want "education", I'll take a college course.
I've noticed every since the Ghostbusters reboot. The common practice in Hollywood is "If your movie isn't well received then blame your audience". I've never seen any other business that disregards their customers and wonders why they aren't making money.
Same thing in the comic book industry.
Video games too
@@crikeybaguette4564 video games get away with it because they make too much damn money on microtransactions. So long as they find 1 whale they can afford to upset 10k customers.
That all woman, man bashing Ghostbusters failed, so why are new movies still following that formula? Let’s make the new Bond a woman! Sure, brilliant. (First Bond movie I will never watch.)
@@AllenFreemanMediaGuru I love how when these movies flop they don't even consider the possibility that something was wrong with the movie. They have this illusion the movie is perfect and the audience are ignorant.
"Oh you sexist pig. You just didn't like it because it was an all female cast!"
"No, I didn't like it because it sucked"
For the last year or so my husband and I scroll thru the 80s and 90s to pick out movies because we simply hate all new movies. They are pure woke trash! We keep finding gems that we never had a chance to see or are reseeing as adults... Wow, what a world of difference. You leave these movies feeling something, other than rage! And then you also come to realize how much representation there is of everyone, all skin colors, sexualities, etc... The media wants you to believe that they are becoming woke and doing something so good and selfless when it's been there all along. Wake up everyone they're trying to fool us and create division and hate! .. but their downfall will be their underestimation of us! #WeReallyArentThatDumb 🤦 ... Are we? 🤣
‘Your job is to entertain me, not to lecture me’
He just summed it up with that sentence right there
Yep
💯th like 🤙
Agreed---now they are pushing political/social agendas (politically correct)
Yeah, nowadays we literally paid for it. But going back to his points, the community guidelines destroys the film industry. They want to instill reality in a fantasy. Thats a huge red flag
@@Centaur1991 nah, it does good. Sorry you’re so fearful of change
The fact that the same thing is happening to every media progressively is scary
It's all orchestrated ya' know
@Sergio Barrett I see it like you. I go at netflix and search and search... there is nothing absolute nothing to see. Only older movies are OK but you already saw them ... and then you turn it off.
@@yusufmurat150 it's just unbearable at this point..
@Sergio Barrett don't forget about the music industry. Thank God we have XX century films and music to save us.
This is why I watch anime instead now. “I’m entertained, not lectured.”
"Creatively Bankrupt"
Absolutely nails it. Everything is either a reboot, remake, sequel or prequel. And the "new" movies are taken from previously established works in comics or novel, or obvious plagiarisms of other works.
It's getting so tiresome.
I wonder if oversaturation has anything to do with it... Not just the cinema market, but the creative market as a whole which influences and inspires cinema.
Same with modern mainstream music although 100% garbage.
@@maccagrabme i agree, being you put Mainstream in there lol. For me modern Metal is the best its ever been.
But 100%, dance hip-hop and rap, are objectively in the worst state they've ever been.
I doubt you watch most new things.
It doesn't help that a scant few mega-corporations own the majority of the entertainment IPs - they don't have to try because there's no viable competition forcing them to put forth an effort; all they have to do is sit back, cater to the lowest common denominator, slap a recognizable license on something, and watch the revenue pour in.
At the end of the day, fiction is supposed to be an escape from reality, and when you lose sight of that idea. Then it starts to go down the drain real quick.
The fact that Disney is recycling their old animated movies instead of taking classic science fiction (Asimov, Bradbury, Niven, Heinlein, et.al.) and making something truly spectacular that would actually raise (and possibly answer) a genuinely serious question shows how dysfunctional the studio system is... Can you IMAGINE what "Ringworld" would be like in an IMAX theater???
And to imagine is probably the closest we will ever get to it. Really hurts to see how the film industry has fallen. Even 10 years ago we were getting a whole bunch of decent movies each year
@@thomaslombard8058 Well, Dune by Villeneuve is coming
@@targard.quantumfrack6854 Very nervous about this one. I doubt they will even use the word "jihad".
Yeah
Stranger in a Strange Land
It was good
Foundation was good
Ringworld was good
Gateway was good
Rendezvous with Rama... good books.
I know, right ? The Butlerian... [ *insert pc word* ]
The 90s' had numerically the most original movie titles.
That maybe so, but it's not like it started with stuff like Terminator 2 and ended with The Matri..... Oh.
So true The Matrix, Shawshank Redemption, Truman Show, Goodfellas, Pulp Fiction, Toy Story, Forest Gump the list is endless!
Nowadays everything is an unoriginal and poor attempt at trying to revive or mimic a successful franchise with cliche lecturing stories.
@David Valencia yeah that too
Everything good came from the 90's. Movies, music, fashion, etc
"The marketing to these movies is so good the product doesn't live up to the marketing". That line was gold 👌🏽
Reminds me of Battlefield games. They almost always make stunning trailers, but the games undersell what they market. Or at least what they hype up.
@@austinhenschen3280 Oh yeah, the Battlefield 2042 trailer was absolutely amazing. The game? hot garbage
He said the 70s was the last time America made good movies, that's straight bs. 80s and 90s had an enormous amount of great movies. The last 20 years suck, mostly forgettable overhyped turds
So I should watch the marketing but not the movie, understood
tbh though if you know what to look for you can tell if the movie is going to be bad by how much they show or don't show. if they basically give you the entire movie in the coming weeks its bad. if in the coming weeks they're still showing the exact same scenes, thats the only good scenes and its gonna be bad.
There’s only a handful of directors/writers that I think still put out solid work that keeps my faith alive for the future of cinema. Guys like Christopher Nolan, Wes Anderson, Quentin Tarantino, David Fincher, and Denis Villeneuve are some of the few genuine movie makers left. But 80-90% of the rest has all become bogged down with too much “social commentary” and weak storytelling that it is becoming harder to keep on enjoying cinema. Videos like this just help reinforce my want to constantly go back and watch movies of old. Films from the 70’s thru 90’s, and even some 2000’s thrown in there. At least we still have those
Add Matt Reeves to the list.
The 2000s were the last of the great movies.
@thomasov2004 Also Robert Eggers .
Also Robert Eggers .
What about James Cameron?
When someone simply asked him "why are movies so bad?",
he could talked about it non-stop for 10 minutes.
- This is already very telling.
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Fr! Ikr, I honestly could make a podcast out of this subject cause there's so much to talk about.
"Back when Star Wars was first being made, they were checking one box, it was called 'fun'"
Perfect quote to describe what movie studios are missing the mark on these days.
Are you saying Star Wars has no message or thematic depth and that everyone who enjoys those movies are stupid?
@@kieroncampion120 being entertained isn’t stupid it’s a relaxing from normal life and gives energy to move on .. even Kubrick knew that one of his favorite movies was The Idiot started Steven Martin.. and Eraserhead but that’s a different thing..
@@bacht4799 Relaxing? Get a massage, stupid.
@@kieroncampion120 first thing first.. a massage is actually a good idea for your body .. second thing yes Star Wars is just popcorn entertainment and that’s totally fine.. there are scenes and acting there are really good and you not dumb for liking it or find something there speaks to you.. and yes it’s can be art in some regard like Warhol made Coke Cola art .. or something like that like that find out yourself stupid.. 😜
@@kieroncampion120 The message in Star Wars is “people who blow up planets are bad”, not exactly a hard message to get. Deep? No not deep.
"That last Star Wars movie by J. J. Abrams is garbage, it's unwatchable." That single sentence sums up the entirety of the StarWars sequels. It's not a good thing when you sum up 3 movies in a sentence like that. Not good at all. :|
the part that sucks is when you figure out how many people are being covertly abused by the masons while the public wonders why their entertainment sucks
like that big u.s. gold mine in west papua where 1.8 million people have died over the fifty years but no one is even slightly aware or concerned
Anything made by JJ ABRAMS after Lost finale... I dont watch. Its my rule 😬
@@ThashniNaidoo the show "Lost" was absolutely terrible. I was too young at the time to know how bad the show that I was watching truly was. it's a show that pretends to have a story and pretends to have characters but it's really just bunch of sound effects and noises flashy lights that make you think that you're watching an actual TV show and then you realize oh wait there's nothing here. it's a bunch of visuals without even the skeleton of a story. JJ Abrams then went on to take stagnant franchises like Star Trek and Star wars and just really grind them down into the mud. Westworld is another show exactly like lost. it's a hollow skeleton with very little meat on the bones. everything he makes is garbage
@@atomictraveller The Masons? 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 The Masons are a bunch of grandpas playing clubhouse. you can just look at the consolidation of the media under deregulated capitalism and there's your answer as to why creativity in big budget movies has been stifled over time.
@@djangofett4879 I agree with u, one hundred percent. It had alot of potential where there was a huge cast with equal importance and complex personalities. But it was all fog and mirrors.
I remember a speech made in the 1990s by Robert Redford. I believe he was receiving a Lifetime Achievement award at the Academy Awards. He said the the American motion picture industry (in the 90's) was still healthy and vibrant, but at the same time warned that the industry would suffer if it relied more and more heavily on only making and backing movies that were, as he described, "the sure thing." I think thats what happened, and as a result there seems to be almost no original stories coming out of Hollywood anymore. And while I think of Redford, I wonder if "All the Presidents Men" would be made today.
To summarize:
Corporate greed kills creativity.
Corporate kills the souls of literally everything.
this is not corporate greed. this is communist propaganda.
@@fraser_mr2009 in capitalism they rob you, in communism they rob you and tell you that they're helping you
Thats not even true, when disney had its renaissance, their motto was literally "we have no obligation to make art, we have an obligation to make money. In order to make money, we need to make good art."
What we see now a days, is marxism and communist propaganda through already well establish IPs. As the previous comment said "they rob you and say they are helping you"
They rob the already established ideas and say they "made it better"
@@Dany_lop I think you just proved my point 😇 Back in a day Disney was hardly a corporation not by todays standards anyway.
Now they are...and they are as creative as pile of dogshit in the middle of pavement.
I like his point about Empire Strikes Back. On paper, it sounds like it could have easily failed because it didn’t follow the same structure as the previous film. They were dead set on continuing the story and they weren’t afraid to take risks and that’s why it turned out to be one of the greatest films ever made.
And arguably the best Star Wars movie in the entire franchise.
I miss the days when studios would allow creative risks like that . Nowadays even horror movies don’t take risks and most end up with a happy ending
@@PTEPoliticsTechandEconomy exactly. They try pleasing everyone but end up pissing most people off lmao
Yeah absolutely. Yoda could’ve been seen as a massive joke but turned out to be one of the best characters in the Star Wars universe
@Abstract Parasite I believe that George Lucas was an amazing writer but a poor director. If Lucas wouldn't have directed the prequels, they could've been masterpieces.
"Your job is to entertain me, not lecture me. Not lecture me."
Finally someone brave enough to say it.
If that was true no one would ever have let Ingemar Bergman touch a film camera.
@@TheHabbadasher Kathleen Kennedy is moron who makes up excuses and ruin pocket pussy is a tool. They're opinions aren't exactly based on great philosophy and logic.
The comic book industry needs to hear that advice too.
@@MikeDchy25 Kennedy is a fairly skilled producer, as far as I can tell, and Rian Johnson is definitely a talented filmmaker. Their Star Wars stuff might not be the high-point of their careers, but the vitriol against them has more to do with the fact that people on the internet have no sense of proportion. Instead of moving on with their lives when they find themselves disappointed by a big franchise blockbuster, they have to find some sort of nefarious villain or grand conspiracy to blame it on. Next you know, you’ve got a bunch of deranged people running around, convinced they’re fighting to save the soul of western civilization, or some stupid shit like that, by complaining about movies on the internet.
Hear that Nolan you pretentious lucky prick. You need to Entertain me, work on sensible interesting fuller details and plots don't confuse me with childish half baked concepts and boring foreign actors made to play iconic true American roles like Batman. Temporal pincer / Peeping tom gravity book shelf >> MY ASS..🍷😆😎🤷♀️
I was a big Nightcrawler & X-Men the Animated series fan growing up. There was so much diverse aspects of media & it was genuine. The story of mutants was universally relatable. Captain Planet. Spawn was so awesome and the entire world around him is so unique. It's such a creative range of character's, creatures, unique things, weird things, macabre things. I loved how things used to embrace things, odd things, difficult things. Good stories used to be told, in very creative intelligent ways. Nowadays everything is this cheap cop out shallow live action version nonsense. I miss the Era of creativity, of animated series, of things that made us utilize our intelligence and our internal structure that connects us to any character no matter what kind of character, creature, specie's they are. There is so many stories we could be telling and art that could be creating but we are treating our entire audience like they are 2 yr olds that just need shiney keys waved in front of their face for entertainment... But at the end of the day it's very shallow cheap way to entertain... That's how I look at a lot of modern day media.
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I sincerely don't think kids who are younger than 20 understand just how open-minded & creative the 90's were. I was born in 1989 & I had a very diverse range of friends. The media, commercials, movies, TV shows were all Genuinely diverse and well made. Man I miss that era and I don't get how we have actually went BACKWARDS. Video games, animated series, TV shows, movies, things to do, everything was just so awesome and creative and people were real. I hope we reconnect with that.
WB's recent stance seems to be, "We're going to make the movies WE think you SHOULD be watching, whether you want to or not."
That statement is the moniker of communism.
Movies as curative. Hollywood has medecine that will make you right. Too preachy!
So true, just look at Batwoman. Pure garbage. I know it isn't CW but; female Ghostbusters, Birds of Pray, Wonder Woman 2, Mulan 2020, New Mutants, and the list goes on. Who was this made for and why?
@@dennydude Well, certainly not for China. Those movies flopped just as hard over there. Some of them weren't even shown in China. So much for that excuse.
Faaaaaaacts!
When I grow up in the 90's I was so excited about all the movies coming out. Now I can't even remember the last time a watched a whole movie. I don't even bother anymore.
I do remember. It was Thor Ragnarok in theatre, in 2017.
Last one I saw in theaters was Detective Pikachu and that was it for the longest time.
Nowadays I could probably speak for the average Joe when I say I'm VERY picky about what's worth buying a movie ticket for.
In other news, in any library or book store, manga takes up 70% of shelves next to comics. Pandering has sold absolutely nothing.
WilliamSchlott, I think what you're experiencing is quite simple: you grew up. The real problem is that most movies today are made for a very narrow demographic, that is for the teenager. This is fine if you never grow up, but some of us do develop adult tastes. When I became an adult I was forced to watch movies made in the past because these films were made during a time when popular culture still catered to the tastes of adults.
I was very excited for once upon a time in Hollywood and wasn’t let down
I completely agree that it's a crime that we never got to see Luke, Han, & Leia reunited on the big screen.
@Dilligent Yeoman edgy
@Dilligent Yeoman Sniff...I smell troll.
Yet there are people who argue that it's a beautiful concept that the three never get a single scene together. I was blown away the first time I heard this argument for the sequels.
Yes! Couldn't they at least have them all bickering in the Millennium Falcon one last time? Such a wasted opportunity.
@@ebomb1133 Yeah, defy the expectations, right? No. What did we get instead?
I have to say. What made the early 2000 and 1990s at least for me was concepts. Back then it was easy to make a small film and get recognized. A movie in a bedroom or even a small trailer for 10 minutes and get it into a studio. Now with how expensive everything is it’s much harder for a small time kid to make a concept made into a Hollywood movie without breaking a bank. It’s going to cost $50,000,000 to $500,000,000. Back then movies casted a fraction to make look at paranormal activity, $15,000, now you need to make sure that your able to make millions off it.
I'll be honest, I have no idea who this guy is because I'm not that immersed in the entertainment industry culture but I love him. He speaks for us
Hell i was watching this guy do movie reviews on TechTV like 17 years ago
@@Superabound2 I thought he looked familiar!!
There is a feminist push to have women super heroes. they are all strong and independent, who make snarky/condescending comments about men. It kinda like a revenge toward men movie.
@@Superabound2 I knew I recognized him!!!
@@stephenc2481 Well, ideologies come and go. Fortunately.
I have no idea who this gentlemen is, but he is 101% spot on. Bravo!
you can't get 101%
@@antwan. Must be a "Critic" as well!
I agree with him but he also wrote and produced My Big Fat Independent Movie starring Pauly Shore so maybe a bit of a hypocrite as his film output is equally garbage.
@@beerrunlkl7774 No I am not a "critic" just moviegoer who likes a good story.
@@repletereplete8002 You must’ve missed this part: 5:30
The marketing being better than the actual product is so true. I've been seeing this trend in entertainment for a while, especially in video game releases
The marketing is even better when the movie sucks to con people into seeing it.
It is telling about the delusion and drama of that nation that this is stated as something new and unnormal.
@@santiagogryphon3009 the reverse happened with Spielberg’s West Side Story
Its easy, Play
FarCry3 (2013)
Then play FarCry6 (2021)
You notice the clear objectives on the videogame scene in a gap of 8 years
For real man, look at bb8 in starwars, he did nothing but impossibly roll over sand and make dumb noises, yet they made millions off toys of him.😑
" Not having a moment with Han, Luke, and Leah in the same scene was studio malpractice"
"The last Star Wars movie by JJ Abrams was garbage" succinct and accurate. Well said.
Here is part of the problem you can't promote one of Lucas's captains. You need to bring in a General from some other army.
This seems to happen all over society. For some reason we can't let the person who has been the right hand man for years take over when El Capitano steps aside. We need some outsider who knows little about the property but has shown that they could make money leading some other venture to come in and gut the entire core of the team that had made the franchise great.
He also called it unwatchable
I can not recall any film in the last 10 years that was worth going to a theater to watch it.
The people to blame for shitty movies are the writers. Chris Terrio is just as guilty as JJ was for TLR.
Agreed. JJ Abrams should be banned from doing Star Wars, among others. Disney executives should also be fired.
"Don't follow trends! Start trends!"
- Frank Capra
I will applaud anyone who can do such a deal
George took that to heart when he make Star Wars!
yes copy and paste a quote instead of making your own
@@patriciogsalgadotrejo Got anything better to say?
Well said.🌟
"That's studio malpractice"
Thank God he said these words. As much as I want to be for writers and creators to have as much creative freedom as possible, at some point the project is so big and so important that it becomes more than just a project, but a huge responsibility. Eventually have to put the people first and give them the movie that they need.
The people need? Noooo. Artists and creators should not be subject to the fans. That's the point. When you do that, you're putting a cap on the creativity and potential that could have been. That's why studios who do such reboots and such do not like taking risks. It may bring the possibility of losing viewers. Of losing money or esteem. Fans and people who enjoy the films are great. I'm one of them. But they're not all artists. They're not all filmmakers. They just watch it and appreciate them in their own way. To say that a because a certain story choice the fans would've wanted wasn't made or a choice that was made but they didn't like by the artist is malpractice is such a dramatic claim. The fact that people loved A New Hope was an unexpected surprise.
@@blondetapperware8289 this is true, til you get beloved franchises being mishandled by those who don't know or give jackshit. The star wars prequels, two of them are really bad but its better than the films we have now cuz Lucas knew his franchise It's more about execution and knowing what you're doing rather than catering to fanbases. Because if you know what you're doing with existing franchises, then you won't hear fans complain. When it comes to existing franchises, The "Artist" mentality is becoming an excuse for pisspoor content at this point.
@@clutchcake7717 I think JJ and Rian both appreciate Star Wars. I can't believe either deliberately set out to do any harm to it. I think I could more easily be made to believe more that the stockholders and Iger are more to blame. But yes, I do wish the writers had considered more of George's philosophy for the very last one, especially because it's the very end to the saga. However, there are some good parts to the sequels. I don't think anyone can claim to be looking at it in a balanced way if they couldn't at least acknowledge that there are some. I just think fans shouldn't feel as though these films and characters are entitled to them. If an artist who knows his craft legitimately is behind films like these, even if not all their decisions are well received at first, as long as they're working upon or evolving the story's original themes and writing with skill, I can appreciate that. And I can say there's some of that in TFA and TLJ.
The Rise of Skywalker I think I shall resent for awhile, though.
@@blondetapperware8289 I'd argue about rain but it's whatever at this point and I can agree that there are redeeming qualities from the prequels. After all, that's how we got the Clone Wars show. Other than that, this was a well said rebuttal.
@@clutchcake7717 Thanks. Take care man 👍
In the indie game scene, and I'm sure it's the same with the indie movie scene, they want you to scale it up so to speak, that is if you want low budget, highly controllable, they want you to scale it up until there are so many collaborators that there's little control over anything, and there's so much money there's so much fear over the what the content is that everyone has to play it safe for fear their careers will be lost.
Best line ever: “Your job is to entertain me.” Not present social preaching wrapped in infantile scripts and expensive effects.
I love your wording. That’s exactly what they’re doing and some
Exactly.
Cinema has always been social preaching.
@@raydarable how's "The Thing" socially preaching to me, Ray? please enlighten me
@@xiiir838 I didn't say every movie, but even early silent films were used to preach social issues.
This is so true. Studios almost intentionally produce bad films. It's as if they are abusing their clientele just for the sake of feeling superior.
It's frustrating.
then start pirating
@@mikelisteral7863 That doesn’t accomplish anything. People have been pirating for years.
Your best hope is making an independent film of your own. Unfortunately most of us don’t have the time, money and resources to do that.
@@KratostheThird RARBG
@@jackmcbee3762 RARBG
@@jackmcbee3762 Life of Pi was LAST movie that I loved watching in the theaters.
These days I basically livestream movies and tv shows. If the movie is one I absolutely love, I buy a physical blu-ray copy of it.
Iron Man 3, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, didn't like either of them.
DC Extended Universe and Marvel Cinematic Universe are BOTH shit and creatively bankrupt.
Toy Story 4 was probably the last movie in recent years that actually lived up to my expectations. And I still waited until it was available for livestreaming.
"Your job is to entertain me, not lecture me"
Oh man, speak those sweet words.
There is too much politics and shit being spoon-fed to the audience and it's disgusting.
I don’t mind being lectured if the lecture is entertaining 😂
@@StripedJacket if it’s thought provoking and making you think while being entertaining, then yes that is the only exception.
@@shcdemolisher That depends on how subtle and/or nuanced it is, and the example you're giving seems to be one in which that's done pretty well. Nobody likes being bashed over the head with messages about how to think or act. Didacticism kills entertainment.
@@bonk1403 Indeed, and thank you. :)
Don’t forget lazy nostalgic fan service like Spider-Man no way home.
Any comments?
I don't think cinema will ever die. What I do want is the studio system to crumble or at the very least there be a New Hollywood-like era of the 70's happen.
The People: You have one job.
Entertainment Industry: The Agenda!
The People: What? Wait... no.
Plot twist: The Agenda was profits all along.
@@DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1 clearly they do not care about profits at this point.
All fiction has an “agenda.”
Nice try, though, bigot.
@@Dragonage2ftw go play on live railroad tracks.
@@Dragonage2ftw hold a light bulb in one hand and with your other hand stick your finger in an electrical outlet. You'll project more efficiently that way.
He's spot on when he said movies are now content. Making movies has gone from an art form to be experienced to being content to be consumed.
Yes, but I choose not to consume shit content.
That's a dismissive attitude. Hollywood has often become lazy in what they'll invest in but that doesn't mean that the films that are released aren't crafted or aren't artwork, or are somehow differently creative or artistic than they were 20, 50, 80 years ago.
I miss when movies were considered art I can’t think of a recent movie that’s art to me
So? As Anna says, Let it go. Revel in the good, even great, and leave the dross behind.
@Rando Yaguchi Right on!
"Your job is to entertain me, not lecture me." Exactly, finally someone fucking said it
True but I also think it's 1000% okay for there to be underlying themes in movies and shows. I just prefer for anything political, about human rights, or flaws in our society to be SHOWN, not told to us. Movies and shows are a visual medium. Show us, we don't need you to say anything
@@desireandfire yes star wars has always been super political the difference is showing me the flaws of large corporations sexism and racism and modern films going LOOK HE'S A SEXIST GIVE ME MY MONEY FOR BEING SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE
@@desireandfire Exactly. Hell, Avatar was literally just a retelling of how the English came to America and stole land from the natives. But again, it wasn't screamed at us this was it through random little conversations that don't do anything to benefit the story. It was just there, you can see it and focus on that, or just forget it and enjoy a piece of entertainment. Now unless it's said explicitly over and over, because people are apparently just stupid according to Hollyweird, then no one will notice it. Avatar to me was a pretty bad movie, but at least it was, well not subtle, but no so expressive that it was literally said at some point during the movie.
@@c.t.1893 The humans should have won in Avatar.
No shit Sherlock. Underlining themes aren't supposed to be lecturing you and beating you over the head with it.
Why movies are garbage today is simple:
They don't hire _good_ writers.
No kind of writer can achieve anything good with the endless remaking or franchising of movies that were not that great anyway. The studios return like dogs to their vomit - and it's really stale. Repeating memes and old children's cartoons ... pathetic.
When you allow studios to focus on “equity” and “diversity” instead of telling an original story, you kill creativity and art dies.
@Mellow Merlin Short and to the point!
@Mellow Merlin When you make a movie for everyone and it makes hundreds of millions of dollars, the dominant group gets pissed off, feels left out, and lectured to...lol
Wrong. When you function in a capitalist system with the goal of maximuming profit for your shareholders; telling an original story, creativity, and art are not, and have never been, important...
@@msp5138 Keep your commie theory for your uncle.
for me a big problem with the industry today is just the interest in profit margins, everything from movies, videogames, tv streaming etc... in the "AAA" reign for me have been missing the uniquenes depth of media of the old age, to give some examples compare old marvel movies to new ones, compare doom eternal to quake 1 and also notice the ever absense of Studio Ghibili, Psygnosis and Team Ico and some more in the big market realm, people are no longer putting the effort to enjoy art it feels, developers and studios such as the are fading away, meanwhile crap such as call of duty and ever bland super-hero/budget superbudget shows (like ricky and morty) are booming for reasons that are still unclear to me, nothing is making sense anymore, i hate this, there is no more new and daring, there's just safe and cheap.
Martin Scorsese was right, over the last 2 decades films have been becoming content. Designed to sell toys & tickets to theme parks.
It goes way back than 2 decades, my friend. Almost every pop culture toy and theme park are based on franchises from the 80s. Star Wars, Jurassic Park, Universal Horror movies, Disney cartoons from 40s. This has been going on for quite some time.
@@EthanRom The difference is that now these kinds of movies have gotten more bloated than ever before and they have crowded out other types of movies.
@@Attmay I mean it's mostly just disney. You can't blame the entire industry on one company. We got juggernauts like Paramount, Legendary, Colombia and various smaller film companies who aren't doing franchise films.
@@EthanRom All of those studios are not just making franchise films but each of them have tried to launch cinematic universes. You could argue that Disney is a prime offender but Disney is 75% of the box office so it's going to have 75% of the garbage.
@@michaelwolf8690 Those companies I listed are the biggest film studios in the world. They can definitely go head to head with disney. The original films are out there, you just have to find them. Just look at all the recent Academy Award winners. All great heavy duty movies. Tarantino, Scorsese, Fincher and etc aren't going anywhere and there are tons of young talent following their footsteps. People have to relax, disney ain't ruining anything. The big franchise movies today are just modern versions of franchise films like Aliens, Star Wars, Terminator, Rambo and etc.
“I miss loving Star Wars.”
Star Wars……….Star Wars. Now that’s a film I haven’t loved in a long time. A long time. 😭😭
Good shit 👏👏
But the shows are good.
@@marra2887 Na
@@BilltheFifth u don’t like mando??
Jaws was never my scene and i don't like star wars.
Lack of good movies to watch was one of the primary motivations for me to write my own screenplay. It's better than most of what I see on the screen. A lot of what I start never gets finished because it is a complete waste of time.
Chris Gore just went from being a "dime a dozen" movie reviewer I never paid much attention to into the friggin' MAN!
“I miss loving Star Wars.” That really hit home for me. Kathleen Kennedy killed one of my childhood loves.
I was born after the prequels so sadly I knew that Vader was Luke's father so that wasn't as big of a line but I still love Revenge of the Sith and Empire Strikes Back
For sure- A big part of the problem are sites like Rotten Tomatos and "woke" social justice reviewers like Chris Stuckman who give a false sense of what movies most people actually enjoy watching
I hated ROTS so much that I immediately sold all the new sequel trilogy figures
She didn’t kill mine. My love for the original 6 will never change just because a different studio makes sequels to it that I don’t really like. What I love about Star Wars will always exist in George’s movies an no movie Kathleen shits out is ever going to change that
Disney never took away my love of Star Wars, because the mythology, magic and stories that Lucasfilms give me, from the 6 movies to The Clone Wars, all are still and will forever be alive, and thanks to Dave Filoni, as well as all the other people that help bring the franchise back to life in The Mandalorian, Bad Batch and even Rogue One, that love is growing once again, and a new bright future for our franchise is now upon us, thanks to people who really understands and loves the franchise as much as all of the fans of the journey on a galaxy far far away
"I want to be an optimist.. so maybe only 97% of movies today are garbage, not 99%"
Wow dude i think I'm more optimistic than you i think 98%.
my DVD shelf is half full.
I have seen a few good movies in the last few years but I haven’t seen a great movie in years.
Lol... I can sleep now.
Last great franchise I saw was John wick.
That's it.
i have turned my back on hollywood a long time ago, not just have the movies become terrible but now we also get to know more about how this system works and how many predatory people function there which sickens me even more than the fact that the movies of today are just a remake of another remake...
They could stop making movies and shows right now and I wouldn't even shed a tear. That's how bad they've gotten. And I'm a major movie buff.
Sure you are
I am a fan of the John Wick movies which are doing well and Ryan Reynolds is able to put out some of his creativity
with you, "squaresided". Like I said on another comic book collecter video, I no longer collect modern comics and haven't even bothered to see a superhero movie OR SUPERHERO TV show on Disney Plus or Netflix or Hulu or HBOMax. I get tired of the politics or "agenda-preach".
I'm gathering up all of my favorite films and TV on disc so they cant be Soviet-style deleted. I'm pretty much firmly of the opinion "You Hollywood types stay away from the good things, you'll just break them."
Like the He-Man series coming out. I want to like it, I really do, but I'm almost certain they're going to shoehorn in garbage.
@@brucemaximus3797 you're a grown man waiting for a he-man series and think soviet hollywood conspiracies are the problem here?
This is why I watch old shit - it's just more authentic. It had some heart, some soul, some creativity - it had some art in it.
So happy you said that Matt...I am teased for living in the past.. I'll just stay there for Joy and Sanity in films, music too.
Criterion never lets me down.
Even their more mediocre selections are more exciting/intriguing than what modern corporate big studios are putting out lately, IMO
Old movies have a better look and pace... better flow and dialog
I'm betting that most of them are the classics everyone recognizes, but what about the other 99.9% that has fallen by the wayside because it was the garbage of their day? How many movies were made every year from 1910 to 2020 and how many have you actual seen or even heard of? LOL
@@charlesborden8111 There’s quite a bit of truth in that.
Never forget that’s how Mystery Science Theater came to be
He perfectly vocalizes how the Star Wars sequels felt to watch. It's such a shame.
Terminator really made me sad. 1 and 2 were amazing. Dark Fate was just an embarrassment.
Hollywood is over.
After the last few years of Star Wars, and episode 5 of Obiwan Kenobi, I just want Star Wars to die now. Just go away.
by all that what went wrong with SW 7-9 i felt entertained and thats all what matters. Movies of the 60-90th are not better but different.
@@AudraT
Isn't it a Disney franchise?
Will get worse...