TAEMIN 태민 'Guilty' MV REACTION & REVIEW.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- The King is Back! The story, the dancing, the vocals, everything is on point in this Reaction to TAEMIN 태민 'Guilty' MV. No other words can explain just how amazing this is.
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Taemin is art 😊💎✨
This was so good!!!
Taemin is prince of K-pop. He said the concept came from a book he had read.
Yes Tokyo Dome concert is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Seconded❤😂😊
Can we all agree that this is SHINee year , as a group or solo artist they dropped masterpiece after masterpiece like it's nothing
Yes Taemin is back and giving us all what we ned to see and hear.
This was so insanely amazing!! No words!!
The article about Guilty album's behind story; The main theme of this album started with Taemin's opinion that it was 'erotism'. The goal was to express erotism by substituting Taemin for two characters: ‘the person I can control’ and ‘the person I cannot control, who I feel like I will be controlled by.’ The goal was to elicit emotions from the audience.
The explain of the MV storyline by Taemin; In the music video, I am forced to harm my friends in a situation where there is an absolute watcher . I was shocked to realize that all my friends had disappeared because of me, and I ended up becoming a villain.
Mind blowing 🤯
Taemin is always awesome. His talent is extraordinary. For the next one, please react to Taemin's video - Killing Voice. I will wait.
I had to really chew on this one. I know that Taemin really loves philosophy, just like my daughter who is getting a minor in philosophy at college. In "L'erostisme" the author argues that eroticism is "a psychological quest not alien to death." As a Christian, Taemin has often used his music/MVs to illustrate his conflict with being a Christian while also being in a world that thrives on eroticism and all sorts of worldly temptations that are considered sinful for those with a Christian worldview. Therefore, I instantly was reminded of is songs "Want", "Famous", the NGDA trilogy, "Advice", etc., when listening to this -- almost like it was the final amalgamation of all those songs combined. The situation only intensifies when you couple those temptations with celebrity status and the institutions that facilitate and mold you to achieve that status. Things become more easily attainable and acceptable through money, constant peer pressure, and the desire for acceptance from your peers, the company, and fans.
For Taemin, an additional factor thrown into that already mental chaotic mess is the fact that from the time he entered the celebrity world as a very introverted youngster at the tender age of 14 (intl. age), he was constantly sexualized by the company and other celebrities. In Asian countries, it is considered high comedy to cross-dress, wear long hair extensions and act girly. Due to Taemin's innocent "prettiness" as a child (and later on) those in the industry made full use of Taemin -- constantly dressing him as a girl, fawning over him, petting him, making lewd jokes, etc. As much as Taemin cried out that he was A MAN, the more tone-deaf everyone became -- all except his SHINee brothers. This situation prompted Jonghyun to pen the song "Pretty Boy" for Taemin, which stated that "I am more than the imaginations in your head." The lyrics are quite scathing to those who would make Taemin something he wasn't. Taemin has said in many interviews that, as an artist within an industry flooded with great artists, he had to find a niche that would make him stand out and use that unique niche to build his career. That's just what he did.
In his 2020 interview with Ravi on "Ravi's Close-up: Taemin", he also revealed that he despised school. In fact, as a Kindergartner, he would leave home with his lunch, not say anything to his mother, and go to the park for the day. However, not understanding the concept of passing time, he would return home within an hour. His mother caught on quickly. One of the reasons Taemin became an idol was to get out of all the extra classes Koreans take after school to boost their studies to do well on standardized tests. Finally Taemin's mother, tired of fighting him told him that if he passed the open audition for SM Entertainment, he could drop all of his after-school classes. Taemin went and did just that on the very first try. There are only 8 other idols (I think, or less) who have done this in the history of these open auditions attended by thousands. Despite not enjoying school, Taemin is extremely intelligent especially in science and math. He finished school and college while navigating an insanely packed schedule.
Lastly, I feel like Taemin is giving us a very real picture of just how horrendous his military service (another institution) was in the very beginning, on top of how the anxiety and depression medications made him feel (symbolized by the inhaler), and fighting against himself and his demons to stick through it despite how awful it was. Remember, he never said a word about wanting a transfer. The decision was made for him by military personnel for his well being. That says a lot.
Taemin was asked by Suga on "Suchwita" how he prepared for "Guilty, and Taemin responded that he reflected a lot on his past, where he had been and what he had done. He wanted to reveal his story on a much deeper level. I feel "Guilty" is that revelation of how parts of his childhood were good, but between school, the challenges of being an idol at such a tender age with no control, and his military experience -- all these "institutions" -- have affected him tremendously. He is constantly treading that fine line of wanting to remain that innocent kid (good) that entered the celebrity world and "died" by losing that innocence with the constant temptations of embracing all the eroticism and sinfulness of the world (bad). If what I am just speculating about is true, releasing all these bottled up feelings and frustrations have not only released his greatest work to date (IMHO) but may also have been very cathartic for him.
Addl. Note: "Guilty" was originally slated as the title track for his 2021 mini-album. However, at that time, "Advice" suited the project more. Taemin resurrected "Guilty" for this comeback but said (during "Suchwita") that he had to rework much of the song to get it where he wanted it for this release.
This is amazing! Thank you!! Just saw his interview with Suga too and it reveals a lot !
Yes! Your comments are on point!🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼
Incredible comment
@@WatchingSundays Your amalgamation angle is on point. Taemin certainly reworked the song for his 2023 view of the world. However much of the very specific thing he is really saying is tucked inside a less threatening sexy devil package, and also lost in translation. I made a properly subtitled deep dive explainer, check it out. Cheers.
oh, i was not aware he did not ask for a transfer. huh. ty
Thanks for reacting to Taemin. His work is always avant garde. His is his own genre. He has crossed 3 different generations and is still so strong. He is 👑
No one could be like TAEMIN
TAEMIN is the different level forever. His vocal is so insane
THE KING of kings
Guilty is just pure art
KING is back 🔥🔥🔥
Taemin has talked about the literature that inspired this concept: Erotism: Death and Sensuality by Georges Bataille and Demian by Hermann Hesse.
Love that Taemin decided to do things his own way with his own colors. I don't see anyone else doing this concept, or even the way in which he does it. Just stunning! Great reaction, thanks for giving so much love to his work
KING BACK
Taeminnie pure ✨ art ✨
Taemin is the king of soloists, we really had to wait for him to come back to witness real music and art. I would give an award to this song as everything... mv, vocals, dance. He is the best soloist ever. mark my words
Taemin is god❤
this easily my song of the year candidate its so good just on first listen now im obsessed! would u react to his Killing Voice too?
Love that your name is SERENITY!!! Killing voice could be part of our members content too!
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The next chapter of his career I'm sure will blow the roof off K-pop and I don't think it will be for the faint of heart. What he addressed in this MV was extremely courageous and those who seek to understand him - BRAVE!!!
Pardon the RIDICULOUSLY long essay.
As a queer person who kind of finds queerness in everything, I really liked her interpretation and kind of felt those vibes from the beginning. "It's giving me gay conversion camp vibes" I told my husband after the first trailer. Of course, I don't want to project anything unnecessarily but it makes a lot of sense to me.
I also get the whole military trauma aspect as well as being taken advantage of by the industry as a child, especially.
There's also the book Erotism by Georges Bataille that the director recommend he read in preparation for this comeback which I want to look into more. It seems to be about the intersections of sexuality, religion, death, the sacred and the profane…..basically his whole deal.
And the quote by Herman Hesse that he's mentioned in interviews even before enlistment from the book Demian. "The bird fights its way out of the egg. The egg is the world. Who would be born must first destroy a world. The bird flies to God. That God's name is Abraxas." People think that the feather crown is a nod to Abraxys, which is supposed to be a heretic god, both God and Satan, without a binary.
At the beginning he's wearing Homme Girls boxers (he's actually worn them before and they're HEAVILY featured in his album photo book) from the beginning. It could mean some sort of secret queerness kept under wraps.
Then he graduates to a denim skirt but still with a cross necklace, perhaps still trying to convince himself that he could return to the comfort of conformity, and finally, a skintight floral “feminine" look. Coming into his own personal expression, claiming it after the flaming arrow hits the target.
To go further down the rabbit hole, my queer headcannon saw the brief scene in the hallway walking in on something forbidden, which he quickly left at 21 seconds. The person on the left is the person in the long sleeves featured at the 36 second mark .
Some people read it as young Taemin, with old Taemin looking at himself as a child, which totally makes sense. Except when I first saw it, I read it as an androgynous girl and was kind of confused about her significance. So I could be completely wrong but I read some queerness into that brief scene as well. Or it’s just Taemin looking in on his younger self in early sexual experimentation.
In the original trailer, there were a bunch of kids playing in the creek. Some were male and some female, but they were indistinguishable from each other. I even didn't clock it until someone else mentioned it.
But once they were in their uniforms, there was a clear delineation where the girls were now wearing skirts, enforcing the gender roles they were previously unconcerned about.
I'll also mention that content warning for racy talk. There's also a brief moment with the scene in the bunks with someone holding the head of someone with a baseball cap in front of their groin.
With the military theory, he ended up having to leave the military proper and go into the public service sector for the rest of the time due to extreme anxiety and depression. There's been documentation of idols (G-Dragon is a good example) being treated extremely badly by other members, even as much as trying to take photos of them in the shower and such. It's entirely possible he had a traumatizing time in there on top of his preexisting mental health conditions.
Especially as someone who has been sexualized by being beautiful and feminine since he was literally a child in the industry, this may have made him an even bigger target than just being an idol. So one interpretation of this MV is referencing the invasive nature of an institutional (military) setting. Medical examinations, forcing violence, having a hand help him him hold up the gun to shoot it as seen in the trailer, bunks, etc. With this theory, he would have to walk a fine line because it would be criticizing the South Korean military.
Then there’s the theory of being an idol from basically childhood and the ways he had been taken advantage of. There is literally a TH-cam video entitled “The Sexualization and feminization of Lee Taemin” chronicling the way adults have been creepy and inappropriate to him since the beginning. The bunks like trainee dorms, looking back on his old self. The clinging to the leg of a captor because there’s no other choice. The early loss of innocence, but ultimately coming out empowered by the end.
Throughout the MV, he danced in an especially tortured way after depicting memories of invasive manhandling which tracks along any interpretation. There’s clearly a story about someone vulnerable and their journey to self discovery and purging themselves into their empowered "final form."
In the scene outside in the uniforms near the end, there is the building of extreme anxiety with the inhaler and the gripping and scratching of his legs to try to cope and gather the strength to “burn it all down”/be his true self.
The self knowledge that it must be done but he’s scared s***less. One last clinging to authority/the system with they leg, and finally the full acknowledgment that he needs to do it anyway with determination in his eyes.
In livestreams before the comeback, he spoke about how he was going to “walk the tightrope to see how far he can go.” He’s definitely toeing the line with any one of these topics. He and his team are BRILLIANT and I love reading all of the different interpretations.
(Also SHINee World IV is THHEEEEEE gold standard for SHINee concerts and it’s always the first one I/most SHAWOLS recommend)
I think "Guilty" is a continuation of the themes surrounding Taemin's previous releases. Particularly connected to his Never Gonna Dance Again album -- "2 Kids", "Criminal" and "Idea" -- and Advice album themes.
As Taemin has explained, "Guilty" is about a lover who DOESN'T feel guilty about all the bad things they have done in the relationship and they feel no shame or remorse for the pain and suffering they may have caused the other person. Which, if you connect it to the messages from his previous MVs, this easily could be interpreted as a metaphor for everything Taemin has gone through in his career and life. As an idol, he has been manipulated and controlled his whole life. Debuting at 14 years old, Taemin has lived his entire life in the public eye under a microscope, he is expected to be flawless and perfect, and people are constantly telling him what to do and how he should act, etc. However, now that he has turned 30, I think he is embracing a new chapter in his life where he is saying he is no longer going to allow people to manipulate him and he is officially taking back control. In other words, he's not going to feel guilty any more for being himself and doing what makes him happy.
With Taemin -- and all the members of SHINee -- you will never get the same thing twice. Everything he releases will be a new style and sound and, yet, it will still be very "Taemin". As SM's experimental boy group, SHINee are meant to be the first to do almost everything, and they are expected to come up with something new that no one has ever seen or heard before with every release of theirs. As Kpop's trendsetters, the members of SHINee reinvent the industry with every comeback.
Now you need to check out Taemin's Killing Voice performance. You think you know Taemin, but I have a feeling when you watch his Killing Voice you will find that hearing him sing "Guilty," as well as his other songs, live that you will be even more impressed. Plus, you need to see one of his live performances of "Guilty" to see the complete choreography. There is a reason why Taemin is like none other.
Guys, one of the best reactions I saw from this TAEMIN video. Congratulations and greetings from Argentina.
Thank you!!!!🙏 ❤️
💎 What can we say other than THE KING IS BACK!? I absolutely love how deep Taemin’s songs and MVs are…they aren’t just entertainment or for clicks/views, but he tells a story. He wants to make people THINK and question and reflect. This isn’t something one can watch and then move on. His concepts are intellectual and personal.
💎 Regarding the song itself, his haunting whispers with the beautiful runs on top give me chills…the rap section was unexpected, but fit perfectly and suited the song more than I’d have imagined. I loved how the song switched gears in unexpected ways…there are certain formulas that most kpop songs follow, but this moved in ways I’d never imagined it would and it’s perfect.
💎 As far as the choreography…holy freaking moly. I KNEW it would blow my mind…of course it would-it’s Taemin! With that said, I can’t help but wonder if this isn’t some of his best work to date. It’s provocative without being slutty. Not only that, but you can SEE him being jerked around without any hands on him at all. Around the tenth time watching the video, I happened to notice some of what the background dancers were doing (it’s hard to peel my eyes from Taemin!). There are some genius moves that add to the overall look of the stage…some possibly inspired by breakdancing and some quite acrobatic. I can’t wait to see how it plays out on stage!
💎 All I can really say besides the King has returned is, if loving Taemin is a crime,
I’m “G-U-I-L-T-Y … Who's gonna punish me?” 💎
Yes the king❤❤
Yes!!! The King 👑 is back!!
He is UNMATCHED
taemin can easily debut as a 5th gen idol and nobody would even question it
Thank you for the reaction
I love watching it
Some people have theorized that this might touch on his time during his military service because he didn’t have the easiest time during it.
Taemin has done some acting including a lead in a Japanese drama but he has said that he is not very interested in acting and preferred music and dance
Guilty studio choom is out now ^^
dingo music dropped TAEMIN KILLING VOICE
Taemin has done some acting. He's in at least one drama and a movie. One or the other is in Japanese. Please watch the trailer for this MV as it has additional scenes and more context. He's kidnapped, programmed, and forced to harm someone (maybe himself? I dunno). I'm not very good at interpreting videos such as this one, but I love it so much. He's definitely touching on mental health issues, be it from trauma, PTSD, or societal expectations.
Ah yes Tokyo Dome Concert is LIT
however i recommend SHINee World Concert IV, more iconic performances 👀
Way to go!!
Hi, i am back. Good reaction, ty. Good song. On 1st listen I felt strongly like crying. The tears were held in though the whole song though. But at the end i had to wipe my eyes. I just want to hug Taemin. On my 2nd listen i read the lyrics. And after i wondered was my reaction all in my head. There are layers here upon layers. Loved the fits and makeup. Some of the subject matter was an issue for me. I know Taemin had lots of mental health issues in the military. Based on the teasers I thought he would talk about it. And it looks like he does in his own way. I really want to hear his views on this song and album. I watched Suchwita ep. w. Taemin right after this. Glad he is back giving us headaches, lol. Perfect vocals in my opinion. The feathered headband is a Native American thing for me. I feel it has an important significance. The lyrics had nothing to do with the images in the MV. I think this is way over my head and i will watch some reactions to see what others think of Taemin's msg here. Feels based on imagery. Great choreo. The dance practice was so good. =0] Borahae. -NY USA 2019 Army💟
Loved that long skirt. He looked so good, dang.
I also was getting examination. After a few reactions i am thinking he is showing military and psych mental health area. Like a mix of places. I was thinking were ppl saying he was guilty of making them feel attracted to him? Does he feel guilty about something? Lots of thoughts going through my head. I am so glad u watched the teasers. The more i watch the more i think that he is combining the military facility with a mental health facility. And we know he suffered in the military and asked for a transfer. So it seems he is portraying his struggles here.
@ireneserrano4570 said on 10/30/23
I'm still confused about the exact meaning, but again, there could be different interpretations as with his other songs. But from the visuals i get the feeling it refers to abuse, it can be at so many levels. It can have psychological and physical or both, you can suffer it under your own family, friends, at school, at work, in love relationships... Then who is the perpetrator? many times you can be trapped by those people, even in a group or the society, you don't even realise but by the time you realise you have been actually abused THEY are gone, who can you blame exactly? I have gone through my own dose of abuse, and after years you realise but you end up blaming yourself too, as if you hadn't known better but then you allowed it...😢 Also the images of classroom and rooms with beds, and a kid surrounded by a group...Taemin is watching him from the door as if he was watching himself as a kid... also at the end those kids in school uniforms, all spread around, one grabbing the legs of an adult that grabs his leg, bleeding... South Korea also has buIIying as endemic.. at schools (kids also teachers committing suicide as they can't either find understanding or help by their surroundings, on the contrary they are treated as the outcast and weirdos) also at the workplace, in the Military, in university... Their social rules, their stratification and obsession with seniority, comparing their ages, wealth, possessions, their marks, everything... the social pressure on kids and in general on everyone to be better, the most xx the most xx...). The crazy mix of their traditional values and the contrast to the monstruos capitalism that devours all traditional values... traditional collectivism versus wild individualism...
@pamela-623 said on 10/30/23
this is an amazing comeback, so artsy so taemin, shawols had lots of interesting theories, my favorite being that this is an interpretation of the struggles in military enlistment, young men being taken, examined and given a gun, i find it so fascinating
@princesssunshine79 said on 10/31/23
From what I have picked up here and there, I THINK, don't quote me, the song is about training at an extremely young age in a very exploitive industry, his horrible experience while doing his military service, and his own mental health. Again, I am not positive about any of this. But, for Taemin, it makes a lot of sense. Especially the last two bits because his 2 years away was a nightmare that really messed with his mental health and depression. I hope this helps a wee bit. 😁
@sumim2192 said on 11/1/23
Just a note, In July (I think), Taemin updated his Instagram bio with a famous quote from Hermann Hesse's famous novel Demian “The bird fights its way out of the egg. The egg is the world. Who would be born must first destroy a world. The bird flies to God. That God's name is Abraxas.” I think his outfit with the feather hat represents the god Abraxas.
@prisonbreakd said on 10/31/23
The way he does dark concepts is so amazing to me.
I think if you think about how guilt feels, the video/song represents it perfectly. The way he moves through the corridors and outside, and the choreography feels like he is out of control, and being suffocated by the situation, he is overwhelmed and struggling to understand up from down, invisible and visible hands push him around. You can't help but feel sad or sorry for him, despite him singing that he's done something horrible. And I think it's because, unlike in "Want", he is not proud or embracing it here; his pain, struggle and guilt are obvious. It's haunting.
To me, the overall story of the video was that love (and life) is not always cutesy and sweet; it can come with a dark side, conflicting feelings, being intense and too much. You can do things you regret, and it can spin out of control, you can be aware of doing something wrong and not know how to stop, you can want things that are not good for you or someone that you care about. You can hurt people and be aware of what you are doing but not know how to do it better. You can love the wrong people, make mistakes and feel... well, guilty. It's just a very painful side of human experience that we don't like to look at because guilt and shame go together and make us very uneasy.
@pandakholin said on 10/31/23
9:55 Yep. Rian, Simeez, Noze and Rozalin. They’ve been Taemin’s backup dancers since Criminal.
Also here is Suzy Hong and Kim Haeun.
Only the best of the best for Taemin.
@lunemaline1338 said on 10/31/23
Taemin has spoken before how he regrets debuting so young in a very exploitative industry, that mixed with how hard his military enlistment period was for his mental health I see this being about him kinda losing his innocence and being thrown into violence. the shot of him looking at one of the dancers that kinda looks like a younger version of him having fun with everyone else to him being in this medical room and being moved like a puppet, forced to hold a gun and being stripped of his individuality by wearing this school uniform. That’s what I love about Taemin’s music and MV’s it starts to make you think and theorize, he’s super creative.
@schuylernefcy3466 said on 10/31/23
Other note, It's like Taemin is singing the part of the abuser and dancing the part of the abused and I can't believe how hauntingly beautiful it is.
@bea_hae_tae9392 said on 11/3/23
Taemin has talked about the literature that inspired this concept: Erotism: Death and Sensuality by Georges Bataille and Demian by Hermann Hesse.
Love that Taemin decided to do things his own way with his own colors. I don't see anyone else doing this concept, or even the way in which he does it. Just stunning! Great reaction, thanks for giving so much love to his work.
i never imagine that i could see taemin's growth in music,vocal and dance, you can tell that he's working really hard to get this level, and i'm a proud fan, shinee and shawol growing together 🧡
THEE Lee Taemin is ART personified 👑💯💎
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wonderful reaction as always guys!!!
Taemin is pure art, not just any artist can transform complex experiences and thoughts into music!! I admire him immensely and am always grateful for having had the opportunity to see him live at least once in my life!
Regarding concert options, in my opinion, the best are: SWC4, SWC5, Tokyo Dome 2014 and DxDxD 2016!! Either of these you will enjoy a lot!
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