luce0103 it’s my dream to be a doctor. I was always told my pain was fake. I could never let a future patient go through what I could go through. I cannot imagine letting someone go through the years of pain that I’m still going through and I have just given up talking about it because it hurts when a doctor gives up on me
This is exactly why I’m going to nursing school! Advocates for patients who are open are SO. IMPORTANT. Especially when we’ve felt the pain ourselves ❤️
Thank you! Also, while you’re here, be sure to keep in mind that stomach pain (not like cramps) can be the only symptom of things like ulcerative colitis and chrones disease. I went a year of no doctor taking me seriously because I wasn’t passing blood or didn’t have diarrhea but I’ve heard of people who’ve gone TEN YEARS without diagnosis coz they don’t have all the ‘typical symptoms’. Please please educate yourself on these conditions because apparently most doctors don’t.
I'm glad one of you had some results. Kelsey, I'm so proud of you for sending that letter! He needs to know! I hope that if the laser never works for you, you find something that does.
As sad as I am that this didn't work for Kelsey, I think it's good that they showed the experience anyway. Because that's reality, "miracle cures" don't work for everybody. So I love that Kelsey shared her experience, so that people who are still looking for a cure won't be discouraged. This might not work for you, but there's something somewhere out there that will.
I actually cried when Lara was writing the letter and talking about how doctors didn't believe her. It took 11 years for me to be diagnosed with endometriosis and 13 years for me to be diagnosed with an autoimmune disease. I saw dozens of doctors who dismissed me and they are the reason why my chronic pain is so terrible and debilitating today. It's so hard not to be angry and bitter about it but it's really wonderful to see this video and that there might be some hope for less pain in the future.
marisdc I went through the same thing. Years of people and dr's making me feel like it was all in my head and that I was crazy or making it up. When I finally got a diagnosis they just wanted to prescribe me tons of powerful pain medicine to cover it up. Then I had surgery that was suppose to drastically reduce my pain and the surgeon screwed it up. He left a surgical clamp on my intestines and sewed me up! It took almost two weeks to figure out why I was so sick after surgery!
marisdc I’m SO sorry to hear this. One of my best friends is dealing with an undiagnosed illness (we’re pretty positive it’s an autoimmune disease. “We” being her PCP and dermatologist) but she’s seen and been dismissed by three rheumatologists. So she’s been seeing a naturopath and they spent an hour and a half working and talking with her and she’s FINALLY getting the attention she desperately needs.
I'm so sorry that this had to happen to all of you, NOBODY and I mean NOBODY should be dismissed when they say they have pain. Doctors are supposed to help and listen to people when they say they have pain and they're also supposed to comfort them. Not dismiss and ignore them and tell them they're making it up.
I was sobbing...Took my 30 years to get diagnosed with not 1, not 2 but 7 autoimmune disorders, connective tissue disorder, PCOS, Endo, Fibroids and Molar tumors...Now I have irreversible damage to some pretty important organs ( heart, lungs, pancreas, etc) and I lost 2 babies because of the lady issues. Dr.'s just want a pay check they don't seem to care about what or how we are feeling. My mother said she took me to countless dr's in the first year of life and they pretty much said I was just a fussy baby and to deal with it :(
As someone who has multiple chronic illnesses and severe daily chronic migraines, I am so happy that these girls get their lives back to an extent. I am so happy to see them out in the world and having a good time. Sending love, 💜💜💜
Im going to be a med student next year, and you have no idea how much this series has impacted my view in chronic pain, or how motivated i am to do my absolute best for this not to happen to any of my patients. As someone who had nearly lost motivation, this has given me the push i needed to be more sure of myself and believe in what im doing so much more. Thank you, Kelsey and Lara, really.
as someone who experienced chronic pain their entire life and was brushed off by doctor after doctor for 19 years, thank you. you likely will never fully understand or see the impact just simply believing your patients will have, but I promise it means so much. if a doctor had believed me when I was younger, I wouldn't have felt so ashamed, or like I was faking, or that my mental heath was tricking me into this, or that I just wanted drugs. and as a side note, even if there's no physical "proof" of their pain (blood tests, examinations, etc), still continue to believe them. that was a huge factor in my being discarded, but our pain is still real, science just hasn't caught up yet. thank you for instilling some hope into people like me that there are still people out there who will believe us and want to help
Kyra Proulx I dont even know what to say... i really hope science catches up to pain in our lifetime, and i promise that if i can do something to help people deal with their pain I will.
This means a lot, thank you! I don't think these doctors don't want to provide treatment, but when there are no options available they conclude it must be in people's heads. I believe this is a big reason as to why the wellness industry has become as great and mainly populated by women, who on a larger scale than men are going experience pain as well as being dismissed by medicine as their pain being psychological. As much as alternative medicine is being mocked (whether the treatment in a sense of classical medicine works or not) what doctors often fail to realize is maybe they don't always provide a solution, but they provide care, and care is just as important as treatment in itself. Wish you all the best!
Doctors not believing patients is all too real. My childhood doctor insisted I just liked to complain. That's how I ended up with walking pneumonia and a collapsed lung. That's how my pain was dismissed as "growing" pains despite me not growing. After I became an adult I was diagnosed with lupus/arthritis and my doctor said I've probably had it since childhood but it was dismissed as complaining. If you feel like something isn't right with you and your doctor ignores it then it's time for another doctor.
as a teenager who lives with chronic pain, this series and all the videos over the years that these women have made talking about their pain has helped me so much. I was embarrassed to talk about it before because I thought it made me weak. My doctors always said it wasn't a big deal and ignored my complaints. Now I know that it's a really common thing (especially because of all of the comments).
Dude yes. I have Lyme disease and had to wait three years for some doctor to believe me. If I had a doctor diagnose me when I got it, I could’ve had 30 days of a mild antibiotic and been done. But it got chronic the longer I had to wait to see a doctor and now it’s chronic. I’ve been told I had fibromyalgia and MS before I got diagnosed, and doctors said it couldn’t be Lyme because it was rare, or that I “wasn’t that bad”. I have arthritis as a teenager and have terrible fatigue to the point I can barely stay awake at school. I travel 3 hours one way to see a Lyme specialist, and my normal treatment is six months of hard antibiotics. I’ve beat it before, but the bacterium can change its shape to hide from antibiotics so to speak and it can come back, which has happened twice now. I just started back on meds. I love seeing all the comments because it lets me know it’s not just me going through all this crap 🙄
I'm 18 and have had chronic pain (fibromyalgia) since I was 16 and it's extremely hard because I wanted/want to live the fun of teenage years but it's emotionally and physically draining fighting your own body, and parents rarely understand. Honestly, if you need or want another teen to talk to about this you could insta dm me or something :)
@DebXbeauty Same here, 18 with fibro. I've had it most my life but had a hard crash at 17 which lead to an actual diagnosis and the formation of POTS as well. It's so hard to find another teenager who understands and gets what it's like to watch every one of your friends lives go by while you're stuck like an elderly person in a teen's body. It's like life's cruelest joke, especially since others rarely believe in my pain. "You're too young!" "Maybe if you got some rest!" "Oh I get pain sometimes too!" are like knives to my soul when others say them.
We hear you Kelsey! I'm a medical student who hasn't been in the profession for long but I truly do believe the new generation of doctors will be more aware of issues like this. These videos are so so important in helping us understand how people are affected as well as raising the importance of simply acknowledging chronic pain in the first place. We as doctors need to start listening to our patients as patients are the real experts on their conditions. Thank you both for making these videos!
Queerly Kayla so true. this series should be seen by every person in chronic pain. It is debilitating and solitary not too mention depressing. We need to know we aren't alone.
The doctor who killed my brother is still out there. He's practicing medicine and is saving lives. He made a huge mistake and took my brother from me. But I can't bring myself to be mad. He made a mistake that was huge and terrible but nobody is perfect. He couldn't save my brother but he tried his best and I can't be mad at him. He's out there saving lives it just happened to be that he couldn't help my brother
I'm so glad you guys are bringing awareness to chronic pain. So many doctors nowadays try to minimize the patient's pain or think they're drug seekers. I've seen several doctors for the back issues I have, and I've been treated like utter crap so many times. One doctor told me to meditate, another told me the issues I have shouldn't be causing me as much pain as I'm describing, another told me right after he shook me hand that he wasn't going to write me any scripts for pain medication. I told him well that's good because I'm looking for a solution not a band aid or crutch. Smh...you have to learn to be your best advocate and keep fighting. Believe me I know how tiring that gets and the feeling of wanting to give up some days. Nobody can fully understand it unless they've been through it. And you're right. People should be careful of what they say to someone with chronic pain. It's not like any of us are enjoying this. I hate not having a life. I hate the sleepless nights. I hate the pain. I've dealt with these issues for 7 years now and still haven't found a solution, but I'm hopeful. Anyways, I'm babbling away here, so I'll shush up now. But thank you again for this series. I hope you continue with it if you're able and I would love to see another update in the future. Here's to pain free lives! x
The way doctors are treating patients these days is disgusting. My pain doctor told me to meditate and take deep breaths - 6 weeks after a fusion! I had a metal rod put in my low back, don’t think meditating is going to touch that kind of pain! Keep your head up and keep chugging. Hope is the most important thing!
Amber Mcinally Thank you luv! Yup that's all you can do. Have to try n stay positive as hard as it is. Because on the bad pain days I just wanna curl up n die. I wouldn't wish this pain on anyone, but I almost wish the doctors could experience just a taste of it so they could understand that our pain is real and that we deserve to be treated with respect. Chin up luv! Loads of love n such. x
ReneeNayNay's Videos Yeah meditating isn't going to help those kinds of issues. I have 2 bulging discs, 5 tears in the discs above n below the bulging discs, I have several cysts on the nerve sheaths, osteoarthritis, and one doctor said the facet joints in me back look like they belong to an 80 year old. I don't think bringing out our inner Yoda is gonna take away that sorta pain. I'm now even being told that as of January 2019, that several states are going to be stopping filling narcotic pain medication all together. I've tried so many things, all sorts of injections, medicines, cannabis products, nothing has worked for me. I wish I knew how to go about this laser treatment, but there again I dunno if that would even work for nerve issues. Anywho, I hope you find relief as well luv. And I hope you have a doctor that treats you the way you deserve to be. Our pain is real and needs to be acknowledged. Thanks for your reply! Loads of love n such. x
I've been dealing with horrible back pain as well. Tried everything. Then finally surgery for what could be fixed and a spinal cord stimulator for the rest of the overall pain. Doing much better now, not perfect, but sometimes I can actually get out of bed in the morning without pain. It doesn't hurt to breathe anymore. Still perfecting the setting on my implant so I can find one that's just right. Highly recommend anyone with back pain to look into the possibility of a SCS implant.
I wish I could write a letter to my doctor. My endometriosis journey started when I was 11. My pain was so bad I would collapse, vomit and I literally couldn’t walk. I got to the point where I was to scared to leave my house and be in a situation that I couldn’t control my pain. Because endometriosis doesn’t show up on ultrasounds my FEMALE doctor asked me if I was faking my pain because I didn’t want to go to school and even recommended to my mum that I should see a therapist.
Phoebe TT my mom also had endometriosis and she went to so many doctors and and got a surgery, but it only took some of it off, and she still suffers with it till this day. Stay strong.
ive been diagnosed with PCOS but ive always had irregular periods and pelvic pain for years now, I forgot how long ago but I did indeed have an ultrasound and nothing showed up, and I feel like the PCOS treatment only hides the problem I have a high suspicion that I might have endometriosis how do I even figure out now if I do have it? I'm scared to see a GYN, and like Laura just the simplest thing hurts me.
Sadly a lot of doctors response to pain they can't fix easily is so it's got to be in their head so send them off to a therapist because they don't want to admit they can't fix you.
Hi I’m Hannah and I just found out that I have chronic pain, I’m 11 years old, but the pain started when I was 10. It wasn’t to bad at first so I thought I was just about to start my period but then it kept getting worse. So eventually I told my mom, we went to a bunch of doctors but they either didn’t believe me or told my I have a yeast infection or a uti. So I took all the pills but I was still having the pain, so my mom told me that she had chronic pain and that’s when I found out, and I really don’t know what to do. Because I still have to go to school but when the pain starts up I can’t focus on my work so I’m starting to fall behind in classes, does anyone have any tips to help me get through school?
Hi Kelsey and Laura, not sure you will see this comment. Last week in class ( I'm in med school) our teacher talked about endemetriosis, other illnesses that i don't remember the name of,and chronic pain. We had this whole lesson about pain and how you are supposed to treat it, on a ethical point of view, as a doctor. And I think he repeatted almost a hundred times to trust the patient and listen to what he says, beacause well it's not our body so might as well listen to the one living in it. So,things are changing, and I believe future doctirs will be much more aware of this kind of stuf (at least I will) ! I really really wish you hapiness and joy and all of that ! (sorrryyyyy if I misspelled anithyng, I'm Fench I don't really speak english a lot..)
lol chill i'm in my first year i still have 11 to go and plenty of time to learn about those illnesses :') I basicly only have physics and biochemistry, basic anatomy and ethic lol
Bel 04 I think sometimes we forget how many symptoms and conditions medical professionals have to remember. Let’s be honest even the best memories would have an issue packing that much information in, through experience and medical research this can be improved. Don’t be too hard on them they are the future of medicine and that is something I could not do. I have been watching my friends study their asses off.
I don’t have chronic pain, but I do have an incurable autoimmune disease, so hearing them talk about the whole “living in fear and walking on egg shells” mentality really brought me to tears. I’m so happy that you guys have made this series. It is so encouraging to see other people that go through similar experiences.
@@Beansporkbeans Same here i am so facinated by this i suffer from boarderline lupus idiopathic systemic rheumatoid arthritis i have a vlog that i just did. On my experience having both hips replaced at 15 this series has be in tears
This series. I can't find the words to express my feelings. But thank you. THANK you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm I'm 17 and have been dealing with SEVERE endometriosis and chronic pain for 5 years. Doctors have hurt more than they have helped me. I needed this hope. Thank you Kelsey and Lara.
I've lived with debilitating autoimmune diseases for 30 years. Ive had countless doctors treat me like a hypochondriac or drug seeker. I dont think these doctors care at all about any of us. If it's not something simple that can be fixed immediately they just want to get rid of the ones that are complicated. Thank you for filming all of this and opening the discussions.
I hate going to a new doctor and they seem pissed that you came to them. Usually I don’t go back as that reaction always shows they don’t care to help. When I was young I thought most doctors became doctors to help others. Eventually I learned they just want to feel like they are helping even if they aren’t.
@@foxbearchillinbytheriver Same here i am so facinated by this i suffer from boarderline lupus idiopathic systemic rheumatoid arthritis i have a vlog that i just did. On my experience having both hips replaced at 15 this series has be in tears
Nerve pain is one of the hardest pains to deal with and to get relief from ,so I’m glad she had laser .I can relate to Kelsey because I have chronic nerve pain.
i would love to see an update for this in a few months. I really hope the treatment works for Lara and begins to help Kelsey. Kelsey, you may be right. Perhaps it takes a bit longer for your treatment to kick in and show noticeable results? I'd love an update later. staying hopeful for both of y'all!
I'm happy that Kelesy sent her letter. I have celiac disease but I wasn't diagnosed till I was 11. For years I had different doctors telling me and my family that I had all these other things wrong with me when that really wasn't the case. I was medicated for conditions that I really didn't have and all the symptoms of my untreated celiac disease were misinterpreted. Doctors even told my twin sister, who also has celiac, that it was all in her head; they told her this as she sat in a hospital bed. I didn't understand what was wrong with me, but I knew something was wrong. So many doctors and adults were telling me that nothing was wrong with me so I just learned to live with the pain and illness because I began to think that it was normal. I think about how far I have come since the diagnosis and even with that I still have to face ignorance from doctors who are not specialists when it comes to celiac disease.
I had problems for 10 years before I was diagnosed with celiac. I was misdiagnosed with IBS. I had no life because I was so afraid to be away from home if I had what I would call an attack. I didn't go out with friends, wouldn't eat anything but bread or pasta (my safe foods), and missed out on amazing things because no one thought to test me for celiac. I had to ask for a colonoscopy, which no one wants to do even when you have to, at 21 years old and even then they didn't catch it. I get it. The worst is when people make ignorant comments. "Oh sorry I don't have anything gluten free for you" Well thanks, guess I just won't eat then at this barbecue. Or "we picked this restaurant for the birthday dinner but they don't have gluten free options" Okay, guess I can't come. Then asking "Oh where us she?" Um... Hello. While it helps to know what's going on, doesn't mean it gets easier. Us celiac so need to stick together!
Sabrina I know right! I can't tell you how many times my friends planned a dinner somewhere but I can't eat. Sometimes I just go and don't eat anything, but I can't bring myself to do that all the time. I get tired of the endless, "I'm sorry you can't eat. It must be awful just watching us eat."
I have PCOS, fibromyalgia, and chronic migraines. The first time I experienced a ruptured cyst I was 15 and the doctor rolled his eyes at me and told me I was over reacting to menstrual cramps, I overheard him and the nurses talking about how I wasted all of their time. It took me 5 years now to get someone to listen to me about my pain and take me seriously. When I first experienced my pain due to fibromyalgia it came as arm and chest pain and I went to the Er bc the pain was debilitating, they laughed at me and told me to go home. It took me 4 years to find someone to tell me to try CBD oil for the pain. When I first experienced a terrible migraine 6 months ago it literally had me on the floor unable to speak or feel parts of my face, I couldn’t see anything or walk properly. I was told I was overreacting and all I could do was cry because I could not speak. Doctors don’t take women’s pain or anyone’s pain seriously. Especially when we’re young. I was told I was there just to get pain meds once and when I said “can you please just run a test, I don’t want the meds” they laughed and said my acting was betting than most.
Wait, so people actually have laughed at you for many year rehabilitating pain? They need to be sued. Why do servers get fired for bad service at resteraunts, doctors dont even get anything for ignoring a patient's pain and telling them they wanted their time. I'm so sorry this happened to you and so many others.
I’m a med student and sometimes, because we learn so much about statistics and standard symptoms and have so much expert knowledge, we tend to forget that there is one thing we can never access: the patient’s instinct. If a diagnosis just doesn’t feel right and after time, the patient insists that e.g. pain is stronger than we think it “should be” for the diagnosis or they just know that it isn’t normal period pain, growth pain etc., we must be willing to evaluate, even if we think we’ve seen this a hundred times..
Don't let med school rob you of your compassion. I know how it takes your passion for medicine and chews you up and makes you cynical and burned out. The best doctors are the ones who refuse to park their humanity at the med school door...
Very well said, I’m terrible at describing symptoms and it’s not my fault if my illness comes with vague symptoms but when I know there’s something wrong there’s something wrong, I wouldn’t be there otherwise and doctors have to stop blaming cases they can’t solve on stress/anxiety or some somatoform disorder bullsh*t
Personally, I do not have any form of Chronic Pain. However, seeing the number of comments and stories about patients who weren't treated for their chronic pain for a multitude of years disgusts me. I can not understand why doctors don't take their patients seriously. It is your JOB to help people and the ones that ignore them aren't doing their job and that is outrageous.
As a fellow chronic pain sufferer, this series really touched my heart. I cried during every episode. It also helped to see that there are other people out there who understand what it's like. Last week was a terrible week for me physically, but this series has given me renewed hope for the future. Thank you, Kelsey and Lara!
Loved this series. I have chronic stomach and back pain, as well as copious amounts of mental illnesses. Seeing people who understand it, and that it's people I look up to, is so amazing.
As a 19 year old struggling for over a year now or a diagnosis so I can finally start on a path to recovering/improving, I have followed your videos so closely and they really inspire me to keep pushing and to keep trying to get where I want to be. Being reminded that my pain and struggle is valid and I shouldn't settle for not being believed is so motivating and I always find myself pushing harder every time I see a video like this. Your perseverance is incredible and I really hope your hard work is paid off. Thank you for everything you girls are wicked x (I hope you both see this so you know how much you've helped me!)
Cherry Bomb I feel you. Botox injections in my jaw from my hospital helped a lot. But obviously have potential side affects. Worth a try if you haven’t! x
You might try The Piper Clinic in Tampa Florida if you haven't already. My sister also suffered with TMJ and horrible migraines for years and was treated there. She's doing much better now.
I really hope this works for you. I was dx with rheumatoid arthritis and fibromyalgia 25 years ago. So many doctors have dismissed my pain, and gave me zero hope that I could avoid gnarled hands that were useless. Today, with the opiate "crisis" people like myself are losing access to the meds that work. I had a pain doctor try to put me into rehab a year ago, and lie about what it really was. Thankfully, I've got a great team now and thanks to Cleveland Clinic, I still have a life, too. Some days are harder than others, but I've made it this far. I will survive.
I have chronic pain as well. It just warms my heart to know that I'm not alone and that others have been through what I go through. My pain just drains my energy so much and one of my friends always would judge me for being exhausted all the time but they really have no idea what it feels like.
So excited that you Are exploring neuromuscular dentistry. I also suffer from TN and have been considering this route. I hope you share your experience with it. You have given me hope again. thanks for sharing your journey, chronic pain can be so lonely and isolating. This series has made me feel less alone💕💕
When i get out of high school in 2 years i want to be i doctor and i will always believe someone when they say they are in pain and try to help them as best i can
I live in chronic pain. I have 15 degenerative diagnoses and most of them cause constant unending pain. I’m so grateful that you did this video. I’m so grateful, ladies. I wish you both all the best.
This is so amazing. Thank you ladies for showing me not to give up. I’m only 18 and I have been told I’m not in pain and that It’s just hormones. I hope this shows doctors to believe in the patient.
Larissa Baird I’m 18 too and in constant pain! Doctors have basically laughed me out the door and no pain medication other than morphine helps me and obviously I don’t want that because that’s just silly aha
Amber Mcinally it’s sad because they can use the excuse of female anatomy against us! I hope you find the help you need girl! If you ever want to talk you can message me on insta @riss.wpb. Women should support women!
Lara - I am SO happy for you!! Watching you through this whole journey has been incredible. I've seen so many videos you've been in about different ways to deal with pain and I am ecstatic that you found something that is showing results. You deserve it! Kelsey - I am so happy for you and your new relationship! Having somebody who is there for you and can help you through those tough days is so crucial. I hope that you will find something to cure this pain and make your days easier. You are incredibly strong, especially for mailing that letter, and I know you'll never give up!
I am 15 years old with chronic pain in all of my joints. It hurts to walk, breathe, eat, and live. It is so hard to get up in the morning and keep fighting. I've been diagnosed with amplified pain syndrome along with hypermobility. This series gives me hope that one day I'll be out of pain.
Adri You should totally do research on stuff like this, especially with new and constant improvements to our technology today at this point anything can happen.
Sounds like you have Ehlers Danlose syndrome. I'm 27 and have been ill with the symptoms you just talked about since I was 13. It's a connective tissue disorder. It effects your entire body, all your systems and organs. I'd like to say that all this time later it's gotten bettee, but the truth is its still extremely difficult to get validation and proper care from Dr's. Despite my records and multiple diagnosis. I could say so much about this. But I just want to tell you to go get checked for EDS!! It's a simple blood test and look over from a geneticist. It's a chronic invisible illness that is VERY under diagnosed and most Dr's are very under educated (if educated at all) on this illness...so it's a struggle. Was told most of my life it's in my head. I remember just breaking down in tears with relief to finally actually get a real diagnosis at the age of 19. I was 1st total was on my head, then I was told that I have fibromyalgia... And I knew none of that was true. I did my own research and diagnosed myself with Ehlers danlos syndrome along with other illnesses (to do with my heart mostly) that fall under EDS and I had to go to the doctor and beg them to do these tests for me. When you go to the doctor or the hospital with shortness of breath extreme pain Etc and you're told you to your face that that can't be real... it's degrading. Makes you just want to never go to the doctor again. It's a struggle. But having a real diagnosis of what's going on with my body is such a relief. So I very much urge you to talk to your dr about this. There ARE good Dr's out there!! There is!! But sadly they're farther and further between these days. Good luck sweetie, just keep fighting...you have to be your own best Advocate and never give up... And don't let anybody make you question how you know you feel. We know our bodies best. ♡
Adri, im 24 and i also have amplified pain syndrome and hypermobility, but i also have rheumatoid arthritis. Have you seen a rheumatologist? Have they done tests to check inflammation in your body?
Hopefully all of y'all find something to where you stop having pain everyday. The only thing I can say is I hope it gets better and to Always Keep Fighting. 💖💖💖 Because there will be help for you one day. And remember nothings impossible.
I wish I could finally be diagnosed. Waiting 5 years for someone to take me seriously has been hard, trying to get through University is hard, I just want to be normal.
We went through 9 doctors for my daughter before finding one who would listen. She is 16. She has parents who demanded answers. I went for years with no answers. I NEVER want my children to go what I went through. Don't be afraid to fire doctors, report doctors, and do background checks on doctors. One doctor I used way back actually had several malpractice suites pending and was barred from practicing in another state! Had I known this then, I would never have gone to him.
Science Fiction Double Feature it’s a lot more difficult in the UK unfortunately.. our health care is so much more in demand so my parents are looking at private care for me now just need to save up and start hoping for the best! Thank you 💖💖
This made me cry! you guys are so brave and powerful for living through this and I'm so happy you're working on finding treatment and forgiving the doctors. Keep pushing and never give up!
This series has given me hope that one day I will cure my chronic migraines and general pain in my head. I’ve had this pain since 2nd grade when I got a concussion, it went away for a year then came back but not fully. In 6th grade the headache was set off so bad that I wasn’t in school for 3 weeks and after those three I could only do half days because the pain stopped me from living my life. I’m currently going to be a freshman in high school and I’m going to acupuncture. I always feel that I can’t do it, or it’s not ever going to help me, or why am I putting myself in pain to “relieve” my constant pain. But this series gives me hope. Hope that one day I will be pain free. Hope that I will be able to live my life. Hope that all I’ve gone through isn’t all for nothing. Now I will keep trying to live my life.
I admire your courage to write and send that letter. It took me 5 years to get diagnosed with severe injuries after a car accident. I felt so wronged by many doctors who didn’t believe me, or gave me treatments that made things worse. Forgiving those doctors, taking your power back, and expressing yourself in that way is so brave and so powerful. Thanks for sharing that!
I was crying the whole time I’ve been in pain since I was 10, I’m 20 now and it’s horrible. I feel so happy for kesley though go on you for sending your letter! And it worked fairly well or Lara 💖 lots of love! Let’s make pain free life more assessable!
Please, please, please continue this series. I have widespread chronic pain and I can't begin to explain how much this series means to me. Being able to hear others experiences was amazing. I have incredible friends, family as well as a wonderful partner who all try to understand what I am going through but ultimately unless you experience chronic pain then you don't know how awful it is. Thank you Lara and Kelsey for sharing your stories. I feel less alone and that is massive. Thank you so so so much!
It's her get-go personality. She's in terrible pain all the time but she go through it every time with a positive outlook that things would be better for her in the future.
I have had chronic pain in my eyes for about six years and have found no reason behind it, so I just want to thank you for showing that you should never give up hope. It really helps after everyone in my life tried and is still trying to attribute my pain to something other than what it is, or not even acknowledging the pain at all. Thank you again and I hope that these conditions will get better for people that have to live in what seems like a nightmare. Best of luck
Buzzfeed keep making content with Kelsey and Lara. As a person with chronic pain it oddly helps to watch videos like these when I’m in the thick of a flare up.
So I’ve watched all of Lara’s videos about her pain and I’m actually crying that she is feeling better like she deserves it so much I’m so happy for her. Anyone else?
I am so glad you sent that letter. He must know what he has done to you. I feel like he must have known. Why else did he make her wait for a whole year until he told her what actually happened and what damage was done (surprisingly exactly the time for her to no longer be able to sue him). Now he will also know what effect his actions have had.
I've been crying while watching these episodes. How one person, in such little time can turn your life around. I was so touched seeing you guys change. Lara you just sparkle now. And Kelsey, your single days are over! I wish you all the best and hope that everyone finds a Leslie when they need one.
I've had both doctors and psychiatrists say my PGAD is all in my head, and the despair and frustration in the wake of it is just overwhelming. Seeing you both getting validation and support for your pain brings tears to my eyes. Thank you for these videos, it gives me such hope to see two people's lives get just a little bit better.
I am so touched right now. Thank you so much for every single time you speak! Oh and I have my fingers crossed for all the good stuff that is coming towards you both
Kelsey could've suid for malpractice due to her chronic pain of X amount of years. She still can, it just needs to be put on record that she had surgery when she did and how many years she's been in pain.
Also don t they make you sign a waiver before that states that things can go wrong then you can t sue. In Canada I had to sign one before getting my appendix out.
This video just made my heart so happy. From the first episode, I was hoping and hoping and hoping that the lasers would work for both of you. I love the energy both of you exude and I feel like you both deserve to feel that energy within yourselves and feel like you can take control back of your own body. I can’t even describe how happy I am for both of you. Thank you for taking us on your journey :)
Thank you both for being so open about your journey! I have suffered with chronic debilitating pain for years and have never really seen other people in their 20’s who know what I am feeling. I now don’t feel so alone in this.
Bernadette Hynes - Cafferkey Other people with chronic illness and chronic pain do. Myself included, I'm just lucky I found the right doctors. Everyone's illness and pain is different but to say that nobody will understand your pain puts somebody in a terrible mental place
But nobody will literally understand your pain... You can empathize with people that have similar pain to you but no one will ever truly understand but that's okay. I have EDS which causes chronic joint pain, I'm in pain 24/7 and even other people with EDS although they can understand what I might be going through and they can empathize with that they do not feel the same pain that I feel. so No nobody understands your pain but yes people will always be able to empathize your pain
Tatiana Rose As somebody with depression and various chronic illnesses (ulcerative colitis, Crohn's disease, endometriosis) being told that "nobody will understand your pain" is a terrible thing to say to someone and takes me to a very bad place. Quite frankly, if you think it's ok to tell people that, you're not a good person. That's the type of thing that pushes people to breaking mentally because they feel alone
I think you should go back and reread my comment, I'm not saying your pain in invalid or anything near that I'm saying understanding someone else's pain is virtually impossible however being EMPATHETIC towards someone's pain is completely possible and likely. I'm not putting anyone down and I'm not saying there's no one out there that could possibly know what you're going through I'm saing "understanding" is an incorrect word to use.
Valori Joy you have to understand that to other people, being told by people that they understand can have the same effects because that can make them feel belittled or invalidated. Similar to how grieving people typically do not react well to people telling them they know how it feels because they've also had somebody die or worse, that they lost a material object that they considered very important to them so they "kinda know what you're going through". There is no perfect answer for everybody and you're, quite frankly, the bad person here for acting as if what is right for you is right for everybody
I just had my first treatment with Leslie yesterday, I suffer from Fluoroquinolone Toxicity after taking Cipro 5 months ago. I just booked another appointment for next week because I feel this will help me heal.
Can we have an update of this please? Im from Argentina and have chronic pelvic pain since august 2017. If going to united States would help me Im taking that flight tomorrow.
I started having chronic joint pain in January of this year, and I have had so many tests and been to so many doctors already. I often feel really discouraged and I even find myself hoping for a diagnosis of something that no one should ever hope for. But at least I would have answers. My pain would be validated, and I wouldn't feel like I am going crazy or being overly dramatic. I know my experience with pain is so much less severe or long or traumatic than yours, but these videos have helped me so much. It has only been a few months but I already find myself losing every last bit of hope that I have that I will ever not be in pain. But these videos give me hope. If people like you can find hope and heal and actually find solutions and validation, then maybe I can too. So thank you for that.
Awww, I love Laura! As viewers we watched her journey through BF and you feel her pain and struggle mentally and physically. So seeing her happy like this is So incredible!
I am sitting here in the middle of one of my pain flare ups completely bawling at your episode. You guys give me hope and a will to fight that I don't know I would have had I not watched the series. Instead of saying "there's nothing I can do" and feeling helpless because I won't take medication, I know that there are different avenues that should be researched. Thank you. Thank you.
I am honestly crying while watching this. Raising awareness of chronic illness/ chronic pain is so important and, being someone who lives with chronic pancreas pain daily due to my doctors not listening to me, I cannot thank you both enough for sharing your journeys, opening up about the mental side of chronic pain and misdiagnosis, and most importantly for giving hope to others like me who are fighting each day. I hope you both find ways of relieving your pain/ symptoms, sending heaps of love from the UK
What I learned from this series:
1. Doctors should not be an assholes
2. BE HOPEFUL AND BELIEVE
3. Be a good boyfriend and understanding your partner
halidi I've learnt that you have the worst grammar I've ever seen.
flameboy986 be considerate, maybe English is not their first language...
miamar thanks for being considered
many doctors are not assholes
halidi most doctors aren't assholes.
I'm medical student, I promise I will ALWAYS, ALWAYS believe my patients about their pain ♥
luce0103 it’s my dream to be a doctor. I was always told my pain was fake. I could never let a future patient go through what I could go through. I cannot imagine letting someone go through the years of pain that I’m still going through and I have just given up talking about it because it hurts when a doctor gives up on me
you can do it! I think you have enough motivation :) and motivation is the only thing what will get you through med school
Best comment! I hope this Video will reach some future doctors and the future of medicine will be brighter
This is exactly why I’m going to nursing school! Advocates for patients who are open are SO. IMPORTANT. Especially when we’ve felt the pain ourselves ❤️
Thank you! Also, while you’re here, be sure to keep in mind that stomach pain (not like cramps) can be the only symptom of things like ulcerative colitis and chrones disease. I went a year of no doctor taking me seriously because I wasn’t passing blood or didn’t have diarrhea but I’ve heard of people who’ve gone TEN YEARS without diagnosis coz they don’t have all the ‘typical symptoms’. Please please educate yourself on these conditions because apparently most doctors don’t.
I'm glad one of you had some results. Kelsey, I'm so proud of you for sending that letter! He needs to know! I hope that if the laser never works for you, you find something that does.
As sad as I am that this didn't work for Kelsey, I think it's good that they showed the experience anyway. Because that's reality, "miracle cures" don't work for everybody. So I love that Kelsey shared her experience, so that people who are still looking for a cure won't be discouraged. This might not work for you, but there's something somewhere out there that will.
Revina Que
It didn't fully remove the pain but it made it more bearable, witch is still an improvement.
Looks like kelesy's single days are over ❤❤❤❤ you go girl
Celeste olivos lol when you said that it came up in the video
"to all of the doctors that didn't believe me, because unfortunately I cannot pin it down to one."
Yassss, girl, me too.
Me too
I actually cried when Lara was writing the letter and talking about how doctors didn't believe her. It took 11 years for me to be diagnosed with endometriosis and 13 years for me to be diagnosed with an autoimmune disease. I saw dozens of doctors who dismissed me and they are the reason why my chronic pain is so terrible and debilitating today. It's so hard not to be angry and bitter about it but it's really wonderful to see this video and that there might be some hope for less pain in the future.
i feel ya #endoSister
marisdc I went through the same thing. Years of people and dr's making me feel like it was all in my head and that I was crazy or making it up. When I finally got a diagnosis they just wanted to prescribe me tons of powerful pain medicine to cover it up. Then I had surgery that was suppose to drastically reduce my pain and the surgeon screwed it up. He left a surgical clamp on my intestines and sewed me up! It took almost two weeks to figure out why I was so sick after surgery!
marisdc I’m SO sorry to hear this. One of my best friends is dealing with an undiagnosed illness (we’re pretty positive it’s an autoimmune disease. “We” being her PCP and dermatologist) but she’s seen and been dismissed by three rheumatologists. So she’s been seeing a naturopath and they spent an hour and a half working and talking with her and she’s FINALLY getting the attention she desperately needs.
I'm so sorry that this had to happen to all of you, NOBODY and I mean NOBODY should be dismissed when they say they have pain. Doctors are supposed to help and listen to people when they say they have pain and they're also supposed to comfort them. Not dismiss and ignore them and tell them they're making it up.
I was sobbing...Took my 30 years to get diagnosed with not 1, not 2 but 7 autoimmune disorders, connective tissue disorder, PCOS, Endo, Fibroids and Molar tumors...Now I have irreversible damage to some pretty important organs ( heart, lungs, pancreas, etc) and I lost 2 babies because of the lady issues. Dr.'s just want a pay check they don't seem to care about what or how we are feeling. My mother said she took me to countless dr's in the first year of life and they pretty much said I was just a fussy baby and to deal with it :(
As someone who has multiple chronic illnesses and severe daily chronic migraines, I am so happy that these girls get their lives back to an extent. I am so happy to see them out in the world and having a good time. Sending love, 💜💜💜
Love this series.
Sara Gilchrist me too
No one else does. This jew gets so little views. Anyone else notice that?
Sara Gilchrist .
I’ve watched all three episodes at least three times. I am so thankful for them making this video.
Sara Gilchrist saaaamme
We need an update on this!!! How has your ladies' pain been since the treatments!! Update us let us know!!
Im going to be a med student next year, and you have no idea how much this series has impacted my view in chronic pain, or how motivated i am to do my absolute best for this not to happen to any of my patients. As someone who had nearly lost motivation, this has given me the push i needed to be more sure of myself and believe in what im doing so much more. Thank you, Kelsey and Lara, really.
as someone who experienced chronic pain their entire life and was brushed off by doctor after doctor for 19 years, thank you. you likely will never fully understand or see the impact just simply believing your patients will have, but I promise it means so much. if a doctor had believed me when I was younger, I wouldn't have felt so ashamed, or like I was faking, or that my mental heath was tricking me into this, or that I just wanted drugs.
and as a side note, even if there's no physical "proof" of their pain (blood tests, examinations, etc), still continue to believe them. that was a huge factor in my being discarded, but our pain is still real, science just hasn't caught up yet. thank you for instilling some hope into people like me that there are still people out there who will believe us and want to help
Kyra Proulx I dont even know what to say... i really hope science catches up to pain in our lifetime, and i promise that if i can do something to help people deal with their pain I will.
Amber Shade thank you on the behalf of them all
This means a lot, thank you! I don't think these doctors don't want to provide treatment, but when there are no options available they conclude it must be in people's heads. I believe this is a big reason as to why the wellness industry has become as great and mainly populated by women, who on a larger scale than men are going experience pain as well as being dismissed by medicine as their pain being psychological. As much as alternative medicine is being mocked (whether the treatment in a sense of classical medicine works or not) what doctors often fail to realize is maybe they don't always provide a solution, but they provide care, and care is just as important as treatment in itself. Wish you all the best!
Doctors not believing patients is all too real. My childhood doctor insisted I just liked to complain. That's how I ended up with walking pneumonia and a collapsed lung. That's how my pain was dismissed as "growing" pains despite me not growing. After I became an adult I was diagnosed with lupus/arthritis and my doctor said I've probably had it since childhood but it was dismissed as complaining. If you feel like something isn't right with you and your doctor ignores it then it's time for another doctor.
as a teenager who lives with chronic pain, this series and all the videos over the years that these women have made talking about their pain has helped me so much. I was embarrassed to talk about it before because I thought it made me weak. My doctors always said it wasn't a big deal and ignored my complaints. Now I know that it's a really common thing (especially because of all of the comments).
Dude yes. I have Lyme disease and had to wait three years for some doctor to believe me. If I had a doctor diagnose me when I got it, I could’ve had 30 days of a mild antibiotic and been done. But it got chronic the longer I had to wait to see a doctor and now it’s chronic. I’ve been told I had fibromyalgia and MS before I got diagnosed, and doctors said it couldn’t be Lyme because it was rare, or that I “wasn’t that bad”. I have arthritis as a teenager and have terrible fatigue to the point I can barely stay awake at school. I travel 3 hours one way to see a Lyme specialist, and my normal treatment is six months of hard antibiotics. I’ve beat it before, but the bacterium can change its shape to hide from antibiotics so to speak and it can come back, which has happened twice now. I just started back on meds. I love seeing all the comments because it lets me know it’s not just me going through all this crap 🙄
Rachel C im glad that you have it somewhat under control and are getting help for it! I hope that one day it gets easier for you
I'm 18 and have had chronic pain (fibromyalgia) since I was 16 and it's extremely hard because I wanted/want to live the fun of teenage years but it's emotionally and physically draining fighting your own body, and parents rarely understand. Honestly, if you need or want another teen to talk to about this you could insta dm me or something :)
@DebXbeauty Same here, 18 with fibro. I've had it most my life but had a hard crash at 17 which lead to an actual diagnosis and the formation of POTS as well. It's so hard to find another teenager who understands and gets what it's like to watch every one of your friends lives go by while you're stuck like an elderly person in a teen's body. It's like life's cruelest joke, especially since others rarely believe in my pain. "You're too young!" "Maybe if you got some rest!" "Oh I get pain sometimes too!" are like knives to my soul when others say them.
@sam_k_stewart
We hear you Kelsey! I'm a medical student who hasn't been in the profession for long but I truly do believe the new generation of doctors will be more aware of issues like this. These videos are so so important in helping us understand how people are affected as well as raising the importance of simply acknowledging chronic pain in the first place. We as doctors need to start listening to our patients as patients are the real experts on their conditions. Thank you both for making these videos!
Nothing has inspired me more than you guys, in this series.
Queerly Kayla so true. this series should be seen by every person in chronic pain. It is debilitating and solitary not too mention depressing. We need to know we aren't alone.
The doctor who killed my brother is still out there. He's practicing medicine and is saving lives. He made a huge mistake and took my brother from me. But I can't bring myself to be mad. He made a mistake that was huge and terrible but nobody is perfect. He couldn't save my brother but he tried his best and I can't be mad at him. He's out there saving lives it just happened to be that he couldn't help my brother
Natalee Denlinger thank you for accepting that doctors aren't perfect
Natalee Denlinger Wow! I really admire that you can be strong enough to accept something like that.
So much respect for you and I'm so sorry for your loss. ❤️
Tanvi Kejriwal thank you:-)❤️
Marlies Spaans thanks so much ❤️
I'm so glad you guys are bringing awareness to chronic pain. So many doctors nowadays try to minimize the patient's pain or think they're drug seekers. I've seen several doctors for the back issues I have, and I've been treated like utter crap so many times. One doctor told me to meditate, another told me the issues I have shouldn't be causing me as much pain as I'm describing, another told me right after he shook me hand that he wasn't going to write me any scripts for pain medication. I told him well that's good because I'm looking for a solution not a band aid or crutch. Smh...you have to learn to be your best advocate and keep fighting. Believe me I know how tiring that gets and the feeling of wanting to give up some days. Nobody can fully understand it unless they've been through it. And you're right. People should be careful of what they say to someone with chronic pain. It's not like any of us are enjoying this. I hate not having a life. I hate the sleepless nights. I hate the pain. I've dealt with these issues for 7 years now and still haven't found a solution, but I'm hopeful. Anyways, I'm babbling away here, so I'll shush up now. But thank you again for this series. I hope you continue with it if you're able and I would love to see another update in the future. Here's to pain free lives! x
You couldn’t have said that any better! I feel like giving up most days and it is so hard to try and keep moving forward but you have to right?
The way doctors are treating patients these days is disgusting. My pain doctor told me to meditate and take deep breaths - 6 weeks after a fusion! I had a metal rod put in my low back, don’t think meditating is going to touch that kind of pain! Keep your head up and keep chugging. Hope is the most important thing!
Amber Mcinally Thank you luv! Yup that's all you can do. Have to try n stay positive as hard as it is. Because on the bad pain days I just wanna curl up n die. I wouldn't wish this pain on anyone, but I almost wish the doctors could experience just a taste of it so they could understand that our pain is real and that we deserve to be treated with respect. Chin up luv! Loads of love n such. x
ReneeNayNay's Videos Yeah meditating isn't going to help those kinds of issues. I have 2 bulging discs, 5 tears in the discs above n below the bulging discs, I have several cysts on the nerve sheaths, osteoarthritis, and one doctor said the facet joints in me back look like they belong to an 80 year old. I don't think bringing out our inner Yoda is gonna take away that sorta pain. I'm now even being told that as of January 2019, that several states are going to be stopping filling narcotic pain medication all together. I've tried so many things, all sorts of injections, medicines, cannabis products, nothing has worked for me. I wish I knew how to go about this laser treatment, but there again I dunno if that would even work for nerve issues. Anywho, I hope you find relief as well luv. And I hope you have a doctor that treats you the way you deserve to be. Our pain is real and needs to be acknowledged. Thanks for your reply! Loads of love n such. x
I've been dealing with horrible back pain as well. Tried everything. Then finally surgery for what could be fixed and a spinal cord stimulator for the rest of the overall pain. Doing much better now, not perfect, but sometimes I can actually get out of bed in the morning without pain. It doesn't hurt to breathe anymore. Still perfecting the setting on my implant so I can find one that's just right. Highly recommend anyone with back pain to look into the possibility of a SCS implant.
I wish I could write a letter to my doctor. My endometriosis journey started when I was 11. My pain was so bad I would collapse, vomit and I literally couldn’t walk. I got to the point where I was to scared to leave my house and be in a situation that I couldn’t control my pain. Because endometriosis doesn’t show up on ultrasounds my FEMALE doctor asked me if I was faking my pain because I didn’t want to go to school and even recommended to my mum that I should see a therapist.
Female doctors are more sexist than male doctors in my opinion. :( I got rid of all my female doctors. Even my gyno is male.
Phoebe TT my mom also had endometriosis and she went to so many doctors and and got a surgery, but it only took some of it off, and she still suffers with it till this day. Stay strong.
ive been diagnosed with PCOS but ive always had irregular periods and pelvic pain for years now, I forgot how long ago but I did indeed have an ultrasound and nothing showed up, and I feel like the PCOS treatment only hides the problem I have a high suspicion that I might have endometriosis how do I even figure out now if I do have it? I'm scared to see a GYN, and like Laura just the simplest thing hurts me.
Sadly a lot of doctors response to pain they can't fix easily is so it's got to be in their head so send them off to a therapist because they don't want to admit they can't fix you.
Hi I’m Hannah and I just found out that I have chronic pain, I’m 11 years old, but the pain started when I was 10. It wasn’t to bad at first so I thought I was just about to start my period but then it kept getting worse. So eventually I told my mom, we went to a bunch of doctors but they either didn’t believe me or told my I have a yeast infection or a uti. So I took all the pills but I was still having the pain, so my mom told me that she had chronic pain and that’s when I found out, and I really don’t know what to do. Because I still have to go to school but when the pain starts up I can’t focus on my work so I’m starting to fall behind in classes, does anyone have any tips to help me get through school?
OH MY GOD KELSEY HAS A BOYFRİEND
İ AM SO HAPPY FOR HER
Hi Kelsey and Laura, not sure you will see this comment. Last week in class ( I'm in med school) our teacher talked about endemetriosis, other illnesses that i don't remember the name of,and chronic pain. We had this whole lesson about pain and how you are supposed to treat it, on a ethical point of view, as a doctor. And I think he repeatted almost a hundred times to trust the patient and listen to what he says, beacause well it's not our body so might as well listen to the one living in it.
So,things are changing, and I believe future doctirs will be much more aware of this kind of stuf (at least I will) ! I really really wish you hapiness and joy and all of that ! (sorrryyyyy if I misspelled anithyng, I'm Fench I don't really speak english a lot..)
Ileana did you learn about complex regional pain syndrome, previously know as reflex sympathetic dystrophy?
Did not learn in school, but I know about it, why ?
lol chill i'm in my first year i still have 11 to go and plenty of time to learn about those illnesses :') I basicly only have physics and biochemistry, basic anatomy and ethic lol
Bel 04 I think sometimes we forget how many symptoms and conditions medical professionals have to remember. Let’s be honest even the best memories would have an issue packing that much information in, through experience and medical research this can be improved. Don’t be too hard on them they are the future of medicine and that is something I could not do. I have been watching my friends study their asses off.
Ileana donc tu as fait une paces ? Alors , tu es passés en deuxième année ?
I don’t have chronic pain, but I do have an incurable autoimmune disease, so hearing them talk about the whole “living in fear and walking on egg shells” mentality really brought me to tears. I’m so happy that you guys have made this series. It is so encouraging to see other people that go through similar experiences.
justhella what kind of autoimmune disease do you have?
Madison England I have lupus
@@Beansporkbeans Same here i am so facinated by this i suffer from boarderline lupus idiopathic systemic rheumatoid arthritis i have a vlog that i just did. On my experience having both hips replaced at 15 this series has be in tears
I feel you. I have an autoimmune disease too and waking up every morning in pain and looking like a leper is just awful. Sending so much love
This series. I can't find the words to express my feelings. But thank you. THANK you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm I'm 17 and have been dealing with SEVERE endometriosis and chronic pain for 5 years. Doctors have hurt more than they have helped me. I needed this hope. Thank you Kelsey and Lara.
I've lived with debilitating autoimmune diseases for 30 years. Ive had countless doctors treat me like a hypochondriac or drug seeker. I dont think these doctors care at all about any of us. If it's not something simple that can be fixed immediately they just want to get rid of the ones that are complicated. Thank you for filming all of this and opening the discussions.
Sierra Brown I feel the same.
I hate going to a new doctor and they seem pissed that you came to them. Usually I don’t go back as that reaction always shows they don’t care to help. When I was young I thought most doctors became doctors to help others. Eventually I learned they just want to feel like they are helping even if they aren’t.
@@foxbearchillinbytheriver Same here i am so facinated by this i suffer from boarderline lupus idiopathic systemic rheumatoid arthritis i have a vlog that i just did. On my experience having both hips replaced at 15 this series has be in tears
Nerve pain is one of the hardest pains to deal with and to get relief from ,so I’m glad she had laser .I can relate to Kelsey because I have chronic nerve pain.
OMG to see Kelsey happy and in love it's beautiful 😍😍😍
Neonennui I
Julianne Spence which guy?? She did a video??
Julianne Spence I have to see this 🤩 thank you so much
i would love to see an update for this in a few months. I really hope the treatment works for Lara and begins to help Kelsey. Kelsey, you may be right. Perhaps it takes a bit longer for your treatment to kick in and show noticeable results? I'd love an update later. staying hopeful for both of y'all!
I honestly love this series! Bring awareness for chronic illness/pain!! ❤❤
Can we get an up date all these months later does the laser still works for lara?
I'm happy that Kelesy sent her letter. I have celiac disease but I wasn't diagnosed till I was 11. For years I had different doctors telling me and my family that I had all these other things wrong with me when that really wasn't the case. I was medicated for conditions that I really didn't have and all the symptoms of my untreated celiac disease were misinterpreted. Doctors even told my twin sister, who also has celiac, that it was all in her head; they told her this as she sat in a hospital bed. I didn't understand what was wrong with me, but I knew something was wrong. So many doctors and adults were telling me that nothing was wrong with me so I just learned to live with the pain and illness because I began to think that it was normal. I think about how far I have come since the diagnosis and even with that I still have to face ignorance from doctors who are not specialists when it comes to celiac disease.
Blair Egan i’m sorry you have to deal with that, my cousin has celiac too so ik it fuckin sucks. good luck with future doctors :)
i have celiac too!! luckily i was diagnosed at like 3 years old though
I had problems for 10 years before I was diagnosed with celiac. I was misdiagnosed with IBS. I had no life because I was so afraid to be away from home if I had what I would call an attack. I didn't go out with friends, wouldn't eat anything but bread or pasta (my safe foods), and missed out on amazing things because no one thought to test me for celiac. I had to ask for a colonoscopy, which no one wants to do even when you have to, at 21 years old and even then they didn't catch it. I get it. The worst is when people make ignorant comments. "Oh sorry I don't have anything gluten free for you" Well thanks, guess I just won't eat then at this barbecue. Or "we picked this restaurant for the birthday dinner but they don't have gluten free options" Okay, guess I can't come. Then asking "Oh where us she?" Um... Hello. While it helps to know what's going on, doesn't mean it gets easier. Us celiac so need to stick together!
Sabrina I know right! I can't tell you how many times my friends planned a dinner somewhere but I can't eat. Sometimes I just go and don't eat anything, but I can't bring myself to do that all the time. I get tired of the endless, "I'm sorry you can't eat. It must be awful just watching us eat."
I almost cried when Lara was hiking and jump-roping... Seeing someone in that much pain feel that much better is so inspiring!! ❤
I’m so happy for Lara
I have PCOS, fibromyalgia, and chronic migraines. The first time I experienced a ruptured cyst I was 15 and the doctor rolled his eyes at me and told me I was over reacting to menstrual cramps, I overheard him and the nurses talking about how I wasted all of their time. It took me 5 years now to get someone to listen to me about my pain and take me seriously. When I first experienced my pain due to fibromyalgia it came as arm and chest pain and I went to the Er bc the pain was debilitating, they laughed at me and told me to go home. It took me 4 years to find someone to tell me to try CBD oil for the pain. When I first experienced a terrible migraine 6 months ago it literally had me on the floor unable to speak or feel parts of my face, I couldn’t see anything or walk properly. I was told I was overreacting and all I could do was cry because I could not speak. Doctors don’t take women’s pain or anyone’s pain seriously. Especially when we’re young. I was told I was there just to get pain meds once and when I said “can you please just run a test, I don’t want the meds” they laughed and said my acting was betting than most.
Wait, so people actually have laughed at you for many year rehabilitating pain? They need to be sued. Why do servers get fired for bad service at resteraunts, doctors dont even get anything for ignoring a patient's pain and telling them they wanted their time. I'm so sorry this happened to you and so many others.
I’m a med student and sometimes, because we learn so much about statistics and standard symptoms and have so much expert knowledge, we tend to forget that there is one thing we can never access: the patient’s instinct. If a diagnosis just doesn’t feel right and after time, the patient insists that e.g. pain is stronger than we think it “should be” for the diagnosis or they just know that it isn’t normal period pain, growth pain etc., we must be willing to evaluate, even if we think we’ve seen this a hundred times..
Don't let med school rob you of your compassion. I know how it takes your passion for medicine and chews you up and makes you cynical and burned out. The best doctors are the ones who refuse to park their humanity at the med school door...
Very well said, I’m terrible at describing symptoms and it’s not my fault if my illness comes with vague symptoms but when I know there’s something wrong there’s something wrong, I wouldn’t be there otherwise and doctors have to stop blaming cases they can’t solve on stress/anxiety or some somatoform disorder bullsh*t
Personally, I do not have any form of Chronic Pain. However, seeing the number of comments and stories about patients who weren't treated for their chronic pain for a multitude of years disgusts me. I can not understand why doctors don't take their patients seriously. It is your JOB to help people and the ones that ignore them aren't doing their job and that is outrageous.
Wow Patrick looks so different
JenCath What?
Marisol Melendez he’s also a buzzfeed employee
I thought he was blonde??
I’m a medical student, and this was a great series to see. Thank you so much for sharing your personal lives with us.
i love kesley she legit has no filter😂😂😂
(edit:omg guys thanks for the likes lysm)
As a fellow chronic pain sufferer, this series really touched my heart. I cried during every episode. It also helped to see that there are other people out there who understand what it's like. Last week was a terrible week for me physically, but this series has given me renewed hope for the future. Thank you, Kelsey and Lara!
Loved this series. I have chronic stomach and back pain, as well as copious amounts of mental illnesses. Seeing people who understand it, and that it's people I look up to, is so amazing.
same 😞
As a 19 year old struggling for over a year now or a diagnosis so I can finally start on a path to recovering/improving, I have followed your videos so closely and they really inspire me to keep pushing and to keep trying to get where I want to be. Being reminded that my pain and struggle is valid and I shouldn't settle for not being believed is so motivating and I always find myself pushing harder every time I see a video like this. Your perseverance is incredible and I really hope your hard work is paid off. Thank you for everything you girls are wicked x
(I hope you both see this so you know how much you've helped me!)
I been suffering 5 years with tmj . Seen so many doctors . Even my primary doesnt care im in pain everyday . I felt so connected to this
Cherry Bomb I feel you. Botox injections in my jaw from my hospital helped a lot. But obviously have potential side affects. Worth a try if you haven’t! x
I got my portable comra laser recently and no side effects, but try as many as possible, just don't compromise your health
You might try The Piper Clinic in Tampa Florida if you haven't already. My sister also suffered with
TMJ and horrible migraines for years and was treated there. She's doing much better now.
i think i may have tmj too, but i have no pain. my jaw crackles all fhe time and clicks from time to time though
I really hope this works for you. I was dx with rheumatoid arthritis and fibromyalgia 25 years ago. So many doctors have dismissed my pain, and gave me zero hope that I could avoid gnarled hands that were useless. Today, with the opiate "crisis" people like myself are losing access to the meds that work. I had a pain doctor try to put me into rehab a year ago, and lie about what it really was. Thankfully, I've got a great team now and thanks to Cleveland Clinic, I still have a life, too. Some days are harder than others, but I've made it this far. I will survive.
I have fibromyalgia too. Can you please share the names of your doctors at the Cleveland clinic? Thank you
All of the series from Buzzfeed about conquering fears or finishing bucket lists or curing pain are honestly the best
I have chronic pain as well. It just warms my heart to know that I'm not alone and that others have been through what I go through. My pain just drains my energy so much and one of my friends always would judge me for being exhausted all the time but they really have no idea what it feels like.
This is seriously motivating me to go out and try other treatments like those lazers. Thanks buzzfeed, and Laura and Kelsey.
This portable one is called Comra Palm, I got one recently.
So excited that you Are exploring neuromuscular dentistry. I also suffer from TN and have been considering this route. I hope you share your experience with it. You have given me hope again. thanks for sharing your journey, chronic pain can be so lonely and isolating. This series has made me feel less alone💕💕
Congratulations Kelsey and Laura! Your stories are an inspiration!
This is my favorite buzzfeed series! I love these two ladies so much!
When i get out of high school in 2 years i want to be i doctor and i will always believe someone when they say they are in pain and try to help them as best i can
I live in chronic pain. I have 15 degenerative diagnoses and most of them cause constant unending pain. I’m so grateful that you did this video. I’m so grateful, ladies. I wish you both all the best.
This is so amazing. Thank you ladies for showing me not to give up. I’m only 18 and I have been told I’m not in pain and that It’s just hormones. I hope this shows doctors to believe in the patient.
Larissa Baird I’m 18 too and in constant pain! Doctors have basically laughed me out the door and no pain medication other than morphine helps me and obviously I don’t want that because that’s just silly aha
Amber Mcinally it’s sad because they can use the excuse of female anatomy against us! I hope you find the help you need girl! If you ever want to talk you can message me on insta @riss.wpb. Women should support women!
Thank you so much ❤️
Lara - I am SO happy for you!! Watching you through this whole journey has been incredible. I've seen so many videos you've been in about different ways to deal with pain and I am ecstatic that you found something that is showing results. You deserve it!
Kelsey - I am so happy for you and your new relationship! Having somebody who is there for you and can help you through those tough days is so crucial. I hope that you will find something to cure this pain and make your days easier. You are incredibly strong, especially for mailing that letter, and I know you'll never give up!
OMG Kelsey isn't singel af anymore. I feel like a proud mother
These women are just so inspirational. Kelsey and Lara, along with Lesley and her daughter.
I am 15 years old with chronic pain in all of my joints. It hurts to walk, breathe, eat, and live. It is so hard to get up in the morning and keep fighting. I've been diagnosed with amplified pain syndrome along with hypermobility. This series gives me hope that one day I'll be out of pain.
Adri You should totally do research on stuff like this, especially with new and constant improvements to our technology today at this point anything can happen.
Adri I feel your pain girl! I have a very similar thing to you and I’m 18 I hope you find a solution ❤️
Sounds like you have Ehlers Danlose syndrome. I'm 27 and have been ill with the symptoms you just talked about since I was 13. It's a connective tissue disorder. It effects your entire body, all your systems and organs. I'd like to say that all this time later it's gotten bettee, but the truth is its still extremely difficult to get validation and proper care from Dr's. Despite my records and multiple diagnosis. I could say so much about this. But I just want to tell you to go get checked for EDS!! It's a simple blood test and look over from a geneticist. It's a chronic invisible illness that is VERY under diagnosed and most Dr's are very under educated (if educated at all) on this illness...so it's a struggle. Was told most of my life it's in my head. I remember just breaking down in tears with relief to finally actually get a real diagnosis at the age of 19. I was 1st total was on my head, then I was told that I have fibromyalgia... And I knew none of that was true. I did my own research and diagnosed myself with Ehlers danlos syndrome along with other illnesses (to do with my heart mostly) that fall under EDS and I had to go to the doctor and beg them to do these tests for me. When you go to the doctor or the hospital with shortness of breath extreme pain Etc and you're told you to your face that that can't be real... it's degrading. Makes you just want to never go to the doctor again. It's a struggle. But having a real diagnosis of what's going on with my body is such a relief. So I very much urge you to talk to your dr about this. There ARE good Dr's out there!! There is!! But sadly they're farther and further between these days. Good luck sweetie, just keep fighting...you have to be your own best Advocate and never give up... And don't let anybody make you question how you know you feel. We know our bodies best. ♡
Adri, im 24 and i also have amplified pain syndrome and hypermobility, but i also have rheumatoid arthritis. Have you seen a rheumatologist? Have they done tests to check inflammation in your body?
Hopefully all of y'all find something to where you stop having pain everyday. The only thing I can say is I hope it gets better and to Always Keep Fighting. 💖💖💖 Because there will be help for you one day. And remember nothings impossible.
I wish I could finally be diagnosed. Waiting 5 years for someone to take me seriously has been hard, trying to get through University is hard, I just want to be normal.
Faith Cee i hope you find the right doctor soon girly, ik it must be hard but you gotta keep pushing. good luck :)
Kt Stylinson appreciate it thank you!💖💖
We went through 9 doctors for my daughter before finding one who would listen. She is 16. She has parents who demanded answers. I went for years with no answers. I NEVER want my children to go what I went through. Don't be afraid to fire doctors, report doctors, and do background checks on doctors. One doctor I used way back actually had several malpractice suites pending and was barred from practicing in another state! Had I known this then, I would never have gone to him.
Science Fiction Double Feature it’s a lot more difficult in the UK unfortunately.. our health care is so much more in demand so my parents are looking at private care for me now just need to save up and start hoping for the best! Thank you 💖💖
I'm genuinely happy for Laura
This made me cry! you guys are so brave and powerful for living through this and I'm so happy you're working on finding treatment and forgiving the doctors. Keep pushing and never give up!
When Kelsey brought out her boyfriend and seemed so happy I cried omg
This series has given me hope that one day I will cure my chronic migraines and general pain in my head. I’ve had this pain since 2nd grade when I got a concussion, it went away for a year then came back but not fully. In 6th grade the headache was set off so bad that I wasn’t in school for 3 weeks and after those three I could only do half days because the pain stopped me from living my life. I’m currently going to be a freshman in high school and I’m going to acupuncture. I always feel that I can’t do it, or it’s not ever going to help me, or why am I putting myself in pain to “relieve” my constant pain. But this series gives me hope. Hope that one day I will be pain free. Hope that I will be able to live my life. Hope that all I’ve gone through isn’t all for nothing. Now I will keep trying to live my life.
I hope this works for you guys! I couldn't imagine living with chronic pain!
Fanu Ahmed believe me, it sucks to not be able to do things people do on an everyday basis
I’m so happy for you two. It’s that simple. I’m genuinely happy, that on this planet, we can be happy and pain free.
Props to Kelsey for still being so happy for Lara even though it didn't work as well for her
I admire your courage to write and send that letter. It took me 5 years to get diagnosed with severe injuries after a car accident. I felt so wronged by many doctors who didn’t believe me, or gave me treatments that made things worse. Forgiving those doctors, taking your power back, and expressing yourself in that way is so brave and so powerful. Thanks for sharing that!
I was crying the whole time I’ve been in pain since I was 10, I’m 20 now and it’s horrible. I feel so happy for kesley though go on you for sending your letter! And it worked fairly well or Lara 💖 lots of love! Let’s make pain free life more assessable!
The laser treatment can help you I suppose, the comra palm I got come months ago is the portable one, and I am so happy to have it.
Please, please, please continue this series. I have widespread chronic pain and I can't begin to explain how much this series means to me. Being able to hear others experiences was amazing. I have incredible friends, family as well as a wonderful partner who all try to understand what I am going through but ultimately unless you experience chronic pain then you don't know how awful it is. Thank you Lara and Kelsey for sharing your stories. I feel less alone and that is massive. Thank you so so so much!
What is it about this seried that makes it so special. AND WHAT IS IT ABOUT KELSEY THAT MAKES HER SO HILARIOUS.
It's her get-go personality. She's in terrible pain all the time but she go through it every time with a positive outlook that things would be better for her in the future.
I have had chronic pain in my eyes for about six years and have found no reason behind it, so I just want to thank you for showing that you should never give up hope. It really helps after everyone in my life tried and is still trying to attribute my pain to something other than what it is, or not even acknowledging the pain at all. Thank you again and I hope that these conditions will get better for people that have to live in what seems like a nightmare. Best of luck
Buzzfeed keep making content with Kelsey and Lara. As a person with chronic pain it oddly helps to watch videos like these when I’m in the thick of a flare up.
this series is helping me so much with my emotional feelings about my pain. thank you so much.
So I’ve watched all of Lara’s videos about her pain and I’m actually crying that she is feeling better like she deserves it so much I’m so happy for her. Anyone else?
I love these two and to see them stronger and happier since previous treatment and pain is awesome.
I am so glad you sent that letter. He must know what he has done to you.
I feel like he must have known. Why else did he make her wait for a whole year until he told her what actually happened and what damage was done (surprisingly exactly the time for her to no longer be able to sue him). Now he will also know what effect his actions have had.
You two are extremely strong and seeing the change in perspective through this series was so so great. Thank you!
Soooo excited!!! Been waiting for this video!!!
I've been crying while watching these episodes. How one person, in such little time can turn your life around. I was so touched seeing you guys change. Lara you just sparkle now. And Kelsey, your single days are over! I wish you all the best and hope that everyone finds a Leslie when they need one.
When Kelsey said she is dating someone it made me so happy
I've had both doctors and psychiatrists say my PGAD is all in my head, and the despair and frustration in the wake of it is just overwhelming. Seeing you both getting validation and support for your pain brings tears to my eyes. Thank you for these videos, it gives me such hope to see two people's lives get just a little bit better.
This show or series are really good!
I am so touched right now. Thank you so much for every single time you speak! Oh and I have my fingers crossed for all the good stuff that is coming towards you both
Kelsey could've suid for malpractice due to her chronic pain of X amount of years. She still can, it just needs to be put on record that she had surgery when she did and how many years she's been in pain.
She said previously that she got a lawyer and tried to sue but the statute of limitations has passed
Also don t they make you sign a waiver before that states that things can go wrong then you can t sue. In Canada I had to sign one before getting my appendix out.
she should sue honestly
when one doctor gets sued, everyone in their network knows what happened and why.
Sweet Heart you do but if you have a good lawyer it doesn't matter that you signed it.
This video just made my heart so happy. From the first episode, I was hoping and hoping and hoping that the lasers would work for both of you. I love the energy both of you exude and I feel like you both deserve to feel that energy within yourselves and feel like you can take control back of your own body. I can’t even describe how happy I am for both of you. Thank you for taking us on your journey :)
they are so strong 💛
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Thank you both for being so open about your journey! I have suffered with chronic debilitating pain for years and have never really seen other people in their 20’s who know what I am feeling. I now don’t feel so alone in this.
She's right nobody does understand the pain
Bernadette Hynes - Cafferkey Other people with chronic illness and chronic pain do. Myself included, I'm just lucky I found the right doctors. Everyone's illness and pain is different but to say that nobody will understand your pain puts somebody in a terrible mental place
But nobody will literally understand your pain... You can empathize with people that have similar pain to you but no one will ever truly understand but that's okay. I have EDS which causes chronic joint pain, I'm in pain 24/7 and even other people with EDS although they can understand what I might be going through and they can empathize with that they do not feel the same pain that I feel. so No nobody understands your pain but yes people will always be able to empathize your pain
Tatiana Rose As somebody with depression and various chronic illnesses (ulcerative colitis, Crohn's disease, endometriosis) being told that "nobody will understand your pain" is a terrible thing to say to someone and takes me to a very bad place. Quite frankly, if you think it's ok to tell people that, you're not a good person. That's the type of thing that pushes people to breaking mentally because they feel alone
I think you should go back and reread my comment, I'm not saying your pain in invalid or anything near that I'm saying understanding someone else's pain is virtually impossible however being EMPATHETIC towards someone's pain is completely possible and likely. I'm not putting anyone down and I'm not saying there's no one out there that could possibly know what you're going through I'm saing "understanding" is an incorrect word to use.
Valori Joy you have to understand that to other people, being told by people that they understand can have the same effects because that can make them feel belittled or invalidated. Similar to how grieving people typically do not react well to people telling them they know how it feels because they've also had somebody die or worse, that they lost a material object that they considered very important to them so they "kinda know what you're going through". There is no perfect answer for everybody and you're, quite frankly, the bad person here for acting as if what is right for you is right for everybody
I just had my first treatment with Leslie yesterday, I suffer from Fluoroquinolone Toxicity after taking Cipro 5 months ago. I just booked another appointment for next week because I feel this will help me heal.
I'm just so happy to see them doing betrer
I have tears in my eyes. Thank you so much for this.
I wish you would do this series more often
I thank both of you for bringing light to chronic illness and chronic pain. You two are true chronic illness/pain warriors.
Can we have an update of this please? Im from Argentina and have chronic pelvic pain since august 2017. If going to united States would help me Im taking that flight tomorrow.
I wonder if a pelvic floor physical therapist could help you.
@@tarp11z no it didn’t work. I’m searching for an embedded infection.
@@euyenization Well crap. This stuff can be brutally difficult. I hope you find the solution very soon.
This honestly makes me so happy! No one should have to live with pain. I hope everything works out for you two ❤️
I love this series so much!! Basically any video with Kelsey is amazing ❤️❤️❤️
Is there a channel ??
I started having chronic joint pain in January of this year, and I have had so many tests and been to so many doctors already. I often feel really discouraged and I even find myself hoping for a diagnosis of something that no one should ever hope for. But at least I would have answers. My pain would be validated, and I wouldn't feel like I am going crazy or being overly dramatic. I know my experience with pain is so much less severe or long or traumatic than yours, but these videos have helped me so much. It has only been a few months but I already find myself losing every last bit of hope that I have that I will ever not be in pain. But these videos give me hope. If people like you can find hope and heal and actually find solutions and validation, then maybe I can too. So thank you for that.
This makes me want to book a flight to Florida and try out laser for my endometriosis pain 😭😭😭
Awww, I love Laura! As viewers we watched her journey through BF and you feel her pain and struggle mentally and physically. So seeing her happy like this is So incredible!
JARED WAS THE GUY FROM THAT TINDER VIDEO I KNEW IT THEY’RE SO CUTE I’M SO HAPPY FOR HER lmao it’s ironic that the next video is that video haha
I am sitting here in the middle of one of my pain flare ups completely bawling at your episode. You guys give me hope and a will to fight that I don't know I would have had I not watched the series. Instead of saying "there's nothing I can do" and feeling helpless because I won't take medication, I know that there are different avenues that should be researched. Thank you. Thank you.
the guy with the headache I feel him bc i have it 2 for the pass 3 years it was so harsh sleeping sitting ohmygodddddd
I am honestly crying while watching this. Raising awareness of chronic illness/ chronic pain is so important and, being someone who lives with chronic pancreas pain daily due to my doctors not listening to me, I cannot thank you both enough for sharing your journeys, opening up about the mental side of chronic pain and misdiagnosis, and most importantly for giving hope to others like me who are fighting each day. I hope you both find ways of relieving your pain/ symptoms, sending heaps of love from the UK