Elunes seems like its gonna get nerfed hard in M+, bc thrash giving you absorb shield, proccing more thrashes, dealing arcane dmg which in turn will heal you, its just broken, considering its gonna be uncapped scaling on the heals, we could see insane pulls
I just popped this build in and doing 700k dps on the dummies and the amount of heals pouring through and that’s just off my damage alone…I appreciate your insights. Thank you!
Class design is looking SPOT ON in war within. The class fantasy is strong in a lot of the specs so far and i love that. I hope everything is OP AF too, because thats fun
Not in higher M+. You'll die I promise. Try thinking about pulls you do in M+ and imagine you're in Bear form, but have 20% less armor and HP. On lots of fights, you might just die. In AoE situations in M+, Bear has tons of damage anyway, so shifting into cat for to apply a few bleeds and do 1 big finishing move, won't actually give you more damage. In raid, it's gonna be a really great boost to ST damage though.
No rage of the sleeper in either build. That's like my favorite button, I can't imagine playing without it! I'm definitely wondering if it's still worth taking the thrash shield talent in arcane, because arcane thrash ignores armor, so wouldn't that mean even bigger shields from magic damage thrashes? That on top of the self healing seems pretty op.
I think Rage can absolutely fit into the builds, I honestly just forgot to take it... We are a bit strapped on talents for sure, but I think you could fit it in.
I want cat weaving to be a choice i can have for both raid or m+. As of right now; you raid with claw and m+ with elune. Hope they fix this. Just make shape shift stay the same for 6 secs instead of 80%.
I think druid of the claw will be better in m+, reason being that you can move alot more than the elunes chosen. You are "stuck" in small areas to have alot of sustain. But I think elunes chosen will be the spec to go in m+ and do crazy pulls, have alot of sustain and just let everyone else kill the mobs. With time and gear I can see druid of the claw ramp up way more since you wont need the sustain and the extra damage you get will be more valued since the healer will be stronger aswell. And having the extra seconds on roar is huge for getting to next pack asap and pushing the times as much as you can.
@@ZucoWoW Yeah I saw its big, but now play with the thought of sanguine, frontals and so on, that space will be rather small rather quick. But then again, short cd on that so its not a big deal. I just think the druid of the claw will be the better one the higher keys you go, but time will tell. :)
It does a bit I agree... It covers such a massive area on the ground, if Blizzard made it more prominent, it might actually get in the way of being able to see what's going on in front of you.
I really feel like there is a good start for druid with catweaving where you can truly feel you are playing druid... But not completed. I mean if you can't play it in MM+ what is the point of all that... Hope blizzard while take care of my class and drop a bit the mage who they seems to love a bit to much 🙄
Really enjoy your in depth look into the talents. Especially your closer analysis into talent synergies. Thanks for the hard work!
Druid of the claw loooks more single target/raid focused while Elunes chosen looks more AOE/M+ focused.
Elunes seems like its gonna get nerfed hard in M+, bc thrash giving you absorb shield, proccing more thrashes, dealing arcane dmg which in turn will heal you, its just broken, considering its gonna be uncapped scaling on the heals, we could see insane pulls
I just popped this build in and doing 700k dps on the dummies and the amount of heals pouring through and that’s just off my damage alone…I appreciate your insights. Thank you!
I’ve been looking for a new main for a while. Moonbear and kittyresto seems so cool in terms of fantasy and looks fun to play
Loving the Elune tree.
totally awesome.
Class design is looking SPOT ON in war within. The class fantasy is strong in a lot of the specs so far and i love that. I hope everything is OP AF too, because thats fun
Zuco my man. Great stuff. This was imo your best TWW vid. Thank you for all the info and for being awesome
wont the 80% armor/hp you get while catweaving for 6sec be enough for smaller m+ pulls?
Not in higher M+. You'll die I promise. Try thinking about pulls you do in M+ and imagine you're in Bear form, but have 20% less armor and HP. On lots of fights, you might just die. In AoE situations in M+, Bear has tons of damage anyway, so shifting into cat for to apply a few bleeds and do 1 big finishing move, won't actually give you more damage.
In raid, it's gonna be a really great boost to ST damage though.
No rage of the sleeper in either build. That's like my favorite button, I can't imagine playing without it! I'm definitely wondering if it's still worth taking the thrash shield talent in arcane, because arcane thrash ignores armor, so wouldn't that mean even bigger shields from magic damage thrashes? That on top of the self healing seems pretty op.
I think Rage can absolutely fit into the builds, I honestly just forgot to take it... We are a bit strapped on talents for sure, but I think you could fit it in.
Good review man.
Lets hope they dont ruin bears again.
This was super helpful. Thanks!
I want cat weaving to be a choice i can have for both raid or m+. As of right now; you raid with claw and m+ with elune. Hope they fix this. Just make shape shift stay the same for 6 secs instead of 80%.
Alright but what bear form skin is BiS for Elune's Chosen?
Dammn good question... Something blue/purpleish I'd say. Prob like "Avatar of Ursol" blue/purple, or "Fallen To Nightmare" Blue
@@ZucoWoW Perhaps the owlbear as an outside pick? Or one of the blue/purple moss stone bears even.
Many things to consider.
Give us Moonkin back but put armour plating on it.
I think druid of the claw will be better in m+, reason being that you can move alot more than the elunes chosen.
You are "stuck" in small areas to have alot of sustain.
But I think elunes chosen will be the spec to go in m+ and do crazy pulls, have alot of sustain and just let everyone else kill the mobs.
With time and gear I can see druid of the claw ramp up way more since you wont need the sustain and the extra damage you get will be more valued since the healer will be stronger aswell.
And having the extra seconds on roar is huge for getting to next pack asap and pushing the times as much as you can.
The radius of Lunar Beam is actually quite large... Prob 15+ yards at least... I think you won't be quite as stuck as you think you'll be.
@@ZucoWoW Yeah I saw its big, but now play with the thought of sanguine, frontals and so on, that space will be rather small rather quick.
But then again, short cd on that so its not a big deal.
I just think the druid of the claw will be the better one the higher keys you go, but time will tell. :)
I really love Elune’s chosen fantasy. Lunar beam just looks kinda underwhelming 😢
It does a bit I agree... It covers such a massive area on the ground, if Blizzard made it more prominent, it might actually get in the way of being able to see what's going on in front of you.
Seems very interesting tbh
Doing a great service going through all these specs Zuco 👍
I really feel like there is a good start for druid with catweaving where you can truly feel you are playing druid... But not completed. I mean if you can't play it in MM+ what is the point of all that...
Hope blizzard while take care of my class and drop a bit the mage who they seems to love a bit to much 🙄
Bro keep pumping the content, I wanna see balance Druid and frost dk!
Would love to see Balance, too!
I think he already did frost dk
Star bear ftw!
I'm sorry magic space bear is too appealing to not play
Nice shirt. I'm sorry lmao!!
LOL... Shuuuush! At least I'm not naked :)
I hate Incarn/Berserk with a burning passion and I am SO sad they haven't made away with 'em yet! Ugh!!
I feel you... I was hoping for some big changes to that cooldown as well. Hopefully soon Blizz will see the problems with it and make some changes.