@@nellyo-izm-ez6871 I think your interpretation is correct, I didn't see anything on his face that would show that he recognized him. He gave Barry a look like "why is this dude staring at me?"
@@nellyo-izm-ez6871 Bill Hader actually confirmed that in an interview, I at first thought it was cause Chris didn't want to acknowledge Barry but really none of Barry's victims recognize him at all.
Seeing Ryan’s dad forgive Barry and give his life so that Barry could live legitimately made me cry. I knew that as soon as he drove Barry to the hospital that he would play the role as the boy who chose forgiveness over vengeance in the story that the Chechen lady told to Fuches. Amazing writing!
Its just heartbreaking that Barry now has another death on his conscience when there's a world where maybe the two men could have helped each other become better people through understanding and forgiveness.
@@Koi_World Him driving Barry to the hospital instead of leaving him to die all by himself was an act of forgiveness. I speculate that he didn’t bring the gun to actually kill Barry, but instead planned on committing suicide because he was depressed and he had happened to cross paths with Barry while Barry was on the verge of dying. I say that because if his original intention was to actually shoot Barry then he would have probably tracked Barry down to a more specific location as opposed to just finding him poisoned in a random alleyway. Maybe his intention behind saving Barry was supposed to be a final, good act before going to heaven seeing as it’s shown that Ryan’s father is a religious man in the show. Instead of seeking vengeance, Ryan’s father instead chose forgiveness, reflecting the little boy who chose forgiveness in the story the Chechen woman told to Fuches.
The saddest cameo for me was Mayrbek, the young Chechen guy who Barry trained and ended up killing. He told Barry that his training gave him purpose in life but ultimately ended up not applying the most important thing Barry tried to teach him: kill should be the first thing on his mind or else the other guy gets you. In the end he failed and he hesitated when Barry showed up and got himself shot. Now, the poor guy is staring his eternal judgement in the face with his killer a few bodies away
Very good foreshadowing for that i think youll appreciate, probably even noticed yourself. When barry gets mad at him while training them, because theyre having fun he says to him "you think this is a game? You hesitate, you dont pull the trigger, you are dead. DEAD!" and then he pokes him in the middle of the forehead right where he shoots him later and says "kill', thats the only thing i want going through your head."
@@TonyDanza4Lyfe the only confirmed kills he has are the bolivians who kidnapped him. There are plenty of action heroes who have murdered dozens of people yet people let their kids dress up as them all because they have relatable personalities and goals
Idk that part with the crazy eyed dude trying to hand off a fucking M60 to the guy on a dirt bike was the funniest shit ever. I rewinded that part like 5 times I was laughing so hard.
Also with only a couple exceptions (Chris, Goran), Barry means nothing to the people he has killed. He is a complete stranger to them, who came knocking on their door one day to immediately kill them
I've written this up in a separate comment but it's a perfect metaphor for death, Barry put them there in this place they can't forward from, the sea blocking their path representing eternity, they can't communicate and they can't understand anything not even Barry himself or each other. Barry has trapped these people there forever.
Easily one of the darkest moments in the whole show. It’s moments like this that should have changed Barry, but the fact he had these raw and emotional interactions and is still somehow justifying his murders 8 years later shows he’s not worth of forgiveness. Barry is pure evil. He’s a fascinating character. RIP Mr. Krempf
No he isn't. The military turned him into a savage killer. Then covered up his murder and discharged him like nothing was wrong. He clearly has severe PTSD and needed psychological help. Fuches took advantage of a mentally disabled combat veteran. Dexter on the other hand? Dexter was pure evil. Barry tried very hard to change up to his own murder.
@placeholder7410 Dexter showed no remorse for any of his killings. Dexter relished killing. It excited him. It was the only thing that made him feel alive. Barry on the other hand never enjoyed or took pride in what he did. He also genuinely felt bad for some of the murders he committed. His reaction after killing Chris is a perfect example of this.
Haha! He's just human, man. Humans don't really change like that. I think that by and large, humans don't react to these dramatic gestures or experiences. It's just a nice plot device we use for the stories we tell ourselves and others. Humans can change, but unless that change is brought about by hormones (e.g. child development and puberty), it has to be a long-term environmental change of some kind. Barry might like to think he's a better person for this experience, but ultimately he's still just the same guy.
Notice that so far every time Barry is near death and dying, he has these visions/dreams from his subconscious? These are pivotal revelations which show him things he needs to get through his head. Before, in "Ronny/Lily", when he's bleeding out in the car, the vision he has of Fuches coming to pick him up from his military tour finally revealed to him just how toxic and evil their relationship is. While everyone else is being reunited with their family and loved ones, dressed casually and embracing one another, Fuches just stands there. Dressed in a suit and red shirt, he only nods at Barry as if to say "time to do business.' Bill Hader himself says that their relationship was basically Barry making a deal with the devil. Vision #1 shows that Fuches doesn't really love him and that he needs to get him out of his life to stop being a killer. Now, on the brink of death, surrounded by all those he's killed, Barry's confronted with all the death he caused. For the most part, he's always been in denial, thinking that he can move on and leave the past behind despite all that he's done. Denying coming to terms with his darkness and rage. Just as how the first vision helped him see that he needs to make a change by dropping Fuches, I believe that after this vision Barry will likely resolve to stop killing anymore. Especially in light of the fact that there are now people coming after him for vengeance/justice (notably, Jim Moss and Albert). Might be a stretch, but maybe even make him realize that one way or another, he needs to face the consequences. That he can't just keep running or denying. But quite likely, knowing Barry, it's likely that he'll continue running and trying to move on for a while.
It's especially sad because Barry didn't kill Ryan (though he was going to), he actually killed the Chechens that killed him. Shame the father killed himself without getting to know that. Seeing the victims was hard hitting but seeing Chris and Mayrbek, that really.... that hurt.
@@chadhaRupinderPalSingh Yeah, his son is dead and he knew Barry was going to kill him so it didn’t matter. I’m really curious how the vets wife will play out. She almost looked like she instantly regretted poisoning Barry. What a good episode
This whole episode hit hard. Its good that Gene kept his mouth shut but you can tell under the mask he was terrified by sweating from lying to Janice father. I knew Barry had less than hundred kills.
@@tylersexton57 as fictional characters in movies/ tv go, Zatoichi has somewhere between 1200 and 1500 on screen kills. And hes a good guy, who only fights defensively. But he did have 26 movies, a tv series and several short lived reboots to get there.
Not all of the people he killed or indirectly killed were in the sequence (Ryan, Paco, Janice, and Ronny to be exact). He very well may have killed over 100 people
@Mister Majestic They're all there on the beach, they aren't all going to hell, might have just been the door to Judgement. I think the Tibetan Book of the Dead says that a deity counts white and black rocks, white for good, black for bad, and then decides which way you're going.
@@theterminaldaveh some people in the beach are good people yeah chris killed a person but it was an accident doesn't mean he's going to hell barry and the others are definitely going to he'll and also if you do a lot of good and maybe sin that good could save you especially barry he killed like 45 people but I think the other criminals sined more than barry like selling drugs murder lust and other sins
Everyone's got a theory about the beach scene. There is actually an interview of a man that said he died and woke up at a beach with hundreds of people just silently standing there, nobody talking to each other. He then said the most terrifying wave of fire started to come towards them and he knew that it was Hell. Apparently the man got revived and changed his whole life because what he saw coming towards him at the beach, he states he wishes he does not want to end up there again....maybe Barry is seeing his own Hell..
The loud creaking is the gates of hell opening, it may be the reason Janice is not present. Everyone at the beach is going to hell, Janice before her death was trying to put Barry in jail for countless murders.
@@mushroomlad6233 why would Chris go to hell? He wasn't on the front lines in Afghanistan and the only bad thing we saw him do was join in on Taylor and the others. Even then he didn't know he was going to go kill people, he thought they were going to freak them out.
@@725ken In the bible (really stupid book) there are no "worse" sins it's all on the same level. Chris tried to lie to Barry before he died and so he goes to hell.
Well, this is all a poison-induced dream which means it’s all in Barry’s head. We know he has a conscience on some level here, but he’s probably too far gone at this point for him to turn things around.
@@Sharpe1502 I’m saying that Chris rejecting his wave happened in his head too. If there was a complete lack of conscience, the hallucination of Chris probably would have embraced him. The fact that there was a rejection for him to reflect on for a split second is enough to know that there’s a part of Barry who is still very messed up for what he did to Chris. This won’t redeem Barry, but it will make his downfall that much more painful.
@@Sharpe1502 yeah he's legit crazy this season I feel like he's way past redeeming at this point and I'm pretty sure I saw an interview where bill hader said he didn't think Barry deserved a happy ending as a character
@@RamiroBelmaresJr It's a reference to the video game death stranding. The main creator tongue in cheek said that the game is the first of its genre. The first strand type game
I'm glad to see in the comment that i'm not the only who's thinking of The Sopranos with this sequence. That was so powerfull. All the things Season 3 doing with things bringing back from Season 1 is absolutely wonderful.
What's amazing about this scene is how symbolic it is also. Water is meant to represent consciousness in dreams, and Barry can't enter the water, or at least doesn't because he's stuck in the heavy materiel world of the mind, attached to all these killings. This show wasn't perfect, but I loved what it tried to do and did. An irony here also is that Barry did not kill Ryan, he would have died regardless. I wonder what the psychological implications of that are. Brilliant.
When I died twice, it was exactly like this but darker, people just standing, not talking forever waiting in the sound of perpetual silence. It's longer than you think.
Seeing this high af gave me the heaviest panic attack of my life. I never killed a human, but fuck, the way they show this pain. It struck a cord. It broke me. I had to shut the TV off. Absolutely Brilliant. No other show has really covered the insanity and pain of killing another.
Anyone notice Moss wasn't there? Like I don't doubt Barry actually killed her, but it's a bit strange that the most important person he ever killed isn't in this scene.
My interpretation is that Barry has trapped them there forever, they can't move forward, or talk or understand anything it's a great metaphor for death or the place murderers put their victims.
What were they all looking at? Was it symbolizing heaven? The gates opening? Reminded me of that Sopranos episode. Wonder if Hader took inspiration from that.
in the podcast he explains that the idea is that all this people are watching clouds with faces and other things of they past but after editing the scene he found it too didactic and did this instead
The waves crashing, the seagulls, and the dreamlike feel of the episode had to have been inspired by the sopranos when Tony got food poisoning (even realizing now that Barry was literally food poisoned). Both great episodes
Is this foreshadowing what will happen to Barry in the end. Death at his own hand and becoming one of his own victims. Depression has been a recurring theme throughout the entire series after all.
The scene reminds me of a monologue from The Equalizer (the original), an episode called Sea Of Fire. McCall does the ‘scared straight’ routine with a bunch of high school punks. He introduces them to a retired hit man played by a pre-fame David Straitharn. Straitharn says he had a dream near death where he was standing on a shore by a sea of fire surrounded by all his victims when god comes walking by. The monologue later got used as the premise for a Canadian series called Matrix.
At this point, after the season 3 finale, everyone would be better off with Barry dead, including Barry. He has absolutely nothing left, and he’s ruined too many lives.
😢. That scene got to me especially seeing Barry’s victims the beach Seeing this episode makes me realize I need to really be a good soul god where this guy brings him to the hospital tells him about his son then🫣. Yeah man this scene got to me.
To be fair he didn't directly kill some of these people. Some were basically killed by their own stupidity and happenstance while trying to kill Barry. Like the bikers. But it do be a nice touch to show just how stupid guilt can be and how some of make everyone problem around us our fault.
@@Space_Ghost_Hunter Yea he did. But should he fill guilt over it? Fuck no. They were trying to kill him. Its whatever bro, if you don't get it you dont get it. Bro.🙃
@@Space_Ghost_Hunter he didn't though? Except the one he crashed into. One of them was shot at the car dealership by someone else, one of them crashed when they were trying to handoff the gun on the highway. And then Sally killed one of them after this scene
@Mister Majestic we only saw a small part of Chris’ life. Depending on your theology, he could have other unattoned sins we’ve never seen because they had nothing to do with Barry. Or it could be predestination where only a few are chosen. It’s all human invention so there’s really no wrong reason. Plus that could explain Janice’s absence (his Heaven-bound victims were somewhere else).
This might be my favorite sequence in the show so far. The speech from the dad was amazing and so sad. Him and all his victims waiting at the gates of hell with those matter of fact expressions on their face is brilliant. An amazing show that I really can't wait to see how it ends.
Every episode this season casually had some incredibly chilling/unique artistic achievement. S3 E1: The oner introducing Sally's life as a showrunner S3 E2: Chilling Hader performances in office freakout and threatening Gene's family S3 E3: While a quieter episode, I'd give it to the conversation in the trailer where an Gene figures out he triggered Janice's death. S3 E4: The house explosion and Sally's on-stage panic attack S3 E5: The oner FBI-raid S3 E6: The Emmy--nominated bike chase S3 E7: This magical realism sequence done to perfection, also S3 E8: Every. Fucking. Performance (but particularly Albert confronting Barry). This and the crossfade stylings between all of these stories as they converge.
I see more and more "Dexter" in this show. Initially, the creators of the most effective maniac in history thought to kill him at the end. And he had to see in the end all his sacrifices. Just like here
He was a piece of their inevitable death even if he didn’t pull the trigger for each one. The heartbreaking part of this scene is that Barry actually IS a good hearted person so his incapability to be able to move on with the others confused him. His violent side was a product of calculated and very gradual manipulation thrown on him when he was mentally unstable, incredibly vulnerable, unimaginably traumatized, and unfortunately desensitized to extreme violence. He was a killer, but almost always at the order of someone else. I think Barry dissociates while killing so the violence would feel completely separate from his true nature . Even being confronted by his victims the beach couldn’t quite break through to his deeply guarded subconscious, where’s he’s desperately clinging to the GOOD still left within him. Leaving him confused.
This plays like a riff on the ocean scene from Tree of Life. However in this version none of the people have any idea what they're supposed to be looking at in the ocean...
everyone's asking where's janice and don't get me wrong, i'm wondering about that too but not as much as how goran had the time to grow a beard after dying
All these people are people that deserved to die, that committed sins in their previous life. Janice, despite her foolish mistake, was innocent and sinless.
The beach is supposed to represent purgatory so it’s filled with Barry and the people he killed. The people he killed did bad things which is why he killed them. Janice was an officer and didn’t break and rules/laws
nah they're both going to hell unfortunately Ryan committed adulatory and Ryan's father killed himself. Really sad to think about since the dad was Christian.
She wasn't there because she was a good person, unlike others you see in this scene, i expected to see her too but this scene is more like "the gates of hell", and they wait to enter, Janice has no place there, but the others you see in this scene, including Chris, makes sense
I love Chris expression when Barry starts smiling and waving at him. He’s like, “is this dude really gonna act like he didn’t blow my brains out”
Ohhhhhhhh. I interpreted that as "the victims in his dream don't recognize him" but that makes so much more sense actually lmao
@@nellyo-izm-ez6871 I think your interpretation is correct, I didn't see anything on his face that would show that he recognized him. He gave Barry a look like "why is this dude staring at me?"
I think it's just about the feels, this person is nothing to me, whatever I was.
@@nellyo-izm-ez6871 Bill Hader actually confirmed that in an interview, I at first thought it was cause Chris didn't want to acknowledge Barry but really none of Barry's victims recognize him at all.
@@Moviesan69 that’s what it seemed like to me as well. Either way such a cool scene
Seeing Ryan’s dad forgive Barry and give his life so that Barry could live legitimately made me cry. I knew that as soon as he drove Barry to the hospital that he would play the role as the boy who chose forgiveness over vengeance in the story that the Chechen lady told to Fuches. Amazing writing!
Its just heartbreaking that Barry now has another death on his conscience when there's a world where maybe the two men could have helped each other become better people through understanding and forgiveness.
But that's the thing, Barry didn't kill Ryan it was the Chechens. I really never saw the point of this whole conversation
@@amartyaroy3754 The other people Barry killed have loved ones too so this scene shows how Barry's killings affect the people around his victims.
He killed himself because he “wanted to see his kid again”. Sparing Barry was more from not having what it takes to murder, not from forgiveness.
@@Koi_World Him driving Barry to the hospital instead of leaving him to die all by himself was an act of forgiveness. I speculate that he didn’t bring the gun to actually kill Barry, but instead planned on committing suicide because he was depressed and he had happened to cross paths with Barry while Barry was on the verge of dying. I say that because if his original intention was to actually shoot Barry then he would have probably tracked Barry down to a more specific location as opposed to just finding him poisoned in a random alleyway. Maybe his intention behind saving Barry was supposed to be a final, good act before going to heaven seeing as it’s shown that Ryan’s father is a religious man in the show. Instead of seeking vengeance, Ryan’s father instead chose forgiveness, reflecting the little boy who chose forgiveness in the story the Chechen woman told to Fuches.
The saddest cameo for me was Mayrbek, the young Chechen guy who Barry trained and ended up killing. He told Barry that his training gave him purpose in life but ultimately ended up not applying the most important thing Barry tried to teach him: kill should be the first thing on his mind or else the other guy gets you. In the end he failed and he hesitated when Barry showed up and got himself shot. Now, the poor guy is staring his eternal judgement in the face with his killer a few bodies away
His death was the most tragic to me also. I can't imagine getting killed by the person I had the most admiration of.
Why do people feel so bad for him when he's a literal murderer?
@@TonyDanza4Lyfe good character writing
Very good foreshadowing for that i think youll appreciate, probably even noticed yourself.
When barry gets mad at him while training them, because theyre having fun he says to him "you think this is a game? You hesitate, you dont pull the trigger, you are dead. DEAD!" and then he pokes him in the middle of the forehead right where he shoots him later and says "kill', thats the only thing i want going through your head."
@@TonyDanza4Lyfe the only confirmed kills he has are the bolivians who kidnapped him. There are plenty of action heroes who have murdered dozens of people yet people let their kids dress up as them all because they have relatable personalities and goals
Barry can't be nominated in the Comedy category anymore.
Idk that part with the crazy eyed dude trying to hand off a fucking M60 to the guy on a dirt bike was the funniest shit ever. I rewinded that part like 5 times I was laughing so hard.
This season was hilarious. In my opinion, it's the darkest comedy that is the most impressive.
I prefer to think that they don't even recognize him. They hold no anger, nor spite or anything else. They simply don't know him anymore
Also with only a couple exceptions (Chris, Goran), Barry means nothing to the people he has killed. He is a complete stranger to them, who came knocking on their door one day to immediately kill them
@@moneykenny119 that's what I mean. He gave a wave to the man who he called friend. In return, all he got was a confused look.
I've written this up in a separate comment but it's a perfect metaphor for death, Barry put them there in this place they can't forward from, the sea blocking their path representing eternity, they can't communicate and they can't understand anything not even Barry himself or each other. Barry has trapped these people there forever.
Many believe that death is just oblivion. That's terrifying in some ways but comforting in other ways.
Reminds me of Eurydice. In the underworld they don't remember anyone.
Easily one of the darkest moments in the whole show. It’s moments like this that should have changed Barry, but the fact he had these raw and emotional interactions and is still somehow justifying his murders 8 years later shows he’s not worth of forgiveness. Barry is pure evil. He’s a fascinating character. RIP Mr. Krempf
No he isn't. The military turned him into a savage killer. Then covered up his murder and discharged him like nothing was wrong. He clearly has severe PTSD and needed psychological help. Fuches took advantage of a mentally disabled combat veteran. Dexter on the other hand? Dexter was pure evil. Barry tried very hard to change up to his own murder.
@@gmork1090 How the fuck is Dexter pure evil?
@placeholder7410 Dexter showed no remorse for any of his killings. Dexter relished killing. It excited him. It was the only thing that made him feel alive.
Barry on the other hand never enjoyed or took pride in what he did. He also genuinely felt bad for some of the murders he committed. His reaction after killing Chris is a perfect example of this.
Their not evil tf?
Haha! He's just human, man. Humans don't really change like that.
I think that by and large, humans don't react to these dramatic gestures or experiences. It's just a nice plot device we use for the stories we tell ourselves and others. Humans can change, but unless that change is brought about by hormones (e.g. child development and puberty), it has to be a long-term environmental change of some kind.
Barry might like to think he's a better person for this experience, but ultimately he's still just the same guy.
God, the sound design of the gates of hell opening is insanely good.
Made me think of Jean Jacket from Nope
@@MimMiaoexactly what I thought
@@MimMiaowasn't other people supposed to go to heaven because there not all evil
@@badreedinedjellali1328 Idk man, as I said I only thought about the sound of the alien from Nope
Interesting. I thought the same thing. However, for being the Gates of Hell they don’t seem freaked out by it. If that was me, I’d be terrified
I'm loving The Soprano's influences. To this day "Join the Club" is one of the best dream episodes out there
Whoami from mr robot is also amazing
@@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 I've been meaning to watch that, it's on my list for sure
@@charlierunkle19 amazing all the way through
@@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 truuue
@@charlierunkle19 Mr. Robot is my number 1 greatest series of all time, just flawless
I like how Goran is the only one there who gives off a hint of recognizing him
Chris does. He just doesn’t know why he is happy to see him
2:45 these sounds being “the gates of hell” was very unnerving. Even just for the few seconds we got it.
Props to the sound designers, complete fucking nightmare fuel
Made me think of Jean Jacket from Nope
Notice that so far every time Barry is near death and dying, he has these visions/dreams from his subconscious? These are pivotal revelations which show him things he needs to get through his head.
Before, in "Ronny/Lily", when he's bleeding out in the car, the vision he has of Fuches coming to pick him up from his military tour finally revealed to him just how toxic and evil their relationship is. While everyone else is being reunited with their family and loved ones, dressed casually and embracing one another, Fuches just stands there. Dressed in a suit and red shirt, he only nods at Barry as if to say "time to do business.' Bill Hader himself says that their relationship was basically Barry making a deal with the devil. Vision #1 shows that Fuches doesn't really love him and that he needs to get him out of his life to stop being a killer.
Now, on the brink of death, surrounded by all those he's killed, Barry's confronted with all the death he caused. For the most part, he's always been in denial, thinking that he can move on and leave the past behind despite all that he's done. Denying coming to terms with his darkness and rage. Just as how the first vision helped him see that he needs to make a change by dropping Fuches, I believe that after this vision Barry will likely resolve to stop killing anymore. Especially in light of the fact that there are now people coming after him for vengeance/justice (notably, Jim Moss and Albert). Might be a stretch, but maybe even make him realize that one way or another, he needs to face the consequences. That he can't just keep running or denying.
But quite likely, knowing Barry, it's likely that he'll continue running and trying to move on for a while.
It wasn’t until Barry walked into the crowd that it hit me “Are those his victims!?”
Even Jeff and his friend whose Wife he fucked was there lol. There's no forgiving Jeff!
It's especially sad because Barry didn't kill Ryan (though he was going to), he actually killed the Chechens that killed him. Shame the father killed himself without getting to know that. Seeing the victims was hard hitting but seeing Chris and Mayrbek, that really.... that hurt.
Barry was like 1 second away from killing Ryan so I don’t think it matters that much…
@@chadhaRupinderPalSingh Either way whether Barry existed or not, Ryan was going to be killed by the Chechens anyway
@@chadhaRupinderPalSingh Yeah, his son is dead and he knew Barry was going to kill him so it didn’t matter. I’m really curious how the vets wife will play out. She almost looked like she instantly regretted poisoning Barry. What a good episode
I’m guessing at the final episode next Sunday, Barry will see Janice Moss at the hallucination world.
@@chadhaRupinderPalSingh it's really more the lack of closure for the dad that sucks the most, made his death much more tragic for me
This whole episode hit hard. Its good that Gene kept his mouth shut but you can tell under the mask he was terrified by sweating from lying to Janice father. I knew Barry had less than hundred kills.
100 kills is just insane levels of murder... Dexter the goat for that
@@tylersexton57 barry got 50 it’s going to get bigger in the next season
@@tylersexton57 as fictional characters in movies/ tv go, Zatoichi has somewhere between 1200 and 1500 on screen kills. And hes a good guy, who only fights defensively. But he did have 26 movies, a tv series and several short lived reboots to get there.
Not all of the people he killed or indirectly killed were in the sequence (Ryan, Paco, Janice, and Ronny to be exact). He very well may have killed over 100 people
@@fandomicvideos3105 I just don't think their actors were available, there's no reason why it wouldn't also show them since they're key characters.
Barry saw the gates of hell opening before him. Now that I know what the sound was, it's pretty unnerving.
how do you know that it was hell and not the other place?
@Mister Majestic They're all there on the beach, they aren't all going to hell, might have just been the door to Judgement. I think the Tibetan Book of the Dead says that a deity counts white and black rocks, white for good, black for bad, and then decides which way you're going.
@@theterminaldaveh some people in the beach are good people yeah chris killed a person but it was an accident doesn't mean he's going to hell barry and the others are definitely going to he'll and also if you do a lot of good and maybe sin that good could save you especially barry he killed like 45 people but I think the other criminals sined more than barry like selling drugs murder lust and other sins
Everyone's got a theory about the beach scene. There is actually an interview of a man that said he died and woke up at a beach with hundreds of people just silently standing there, nobody talking to each other. He then said the most terrifying wave of fire started to come towards them and he knew that it was Hell. Apparently the man got revived and changed his whole life because what he saw coming towards him at the beach, he states he wishes he does not want to end up there again....maybe Barry is seeing his own Hell..
Jesus that’s terrifying
The loud creaking is the gates of hell opening, it may be the reason Janice is not present. Everyone at the beach is going to hell, Janice before her death was trying to put Barry in jail for countless murders.
@@mushroomlad6233
why would Chris go to hell? He wasn't on the front lines in Afghanistan and the only bad thing we saw him do was join in on Taylor and the others. Even then he didn't know he was going to go kill people, he thought they were going to freak them out.
@@725ken In the bible (really stupid book) there are no "worse" sins it's all on the same level. Chris tried to lie to Barry before he died and so he goes to hell.
@@mushroomlad6233that’s not how sin works
Darkest episode until now without a doubt :( Hader is an AMAZING director!
Hovering between life and death, one's unconscious mind can take you to some vivid but very strange places. I thought this scene was very well done.
Where did it take you?
It took me a minute to realize all these victims standing at the beach heaven was all who Barry killed. This hit deep.
His best friend wants nothing to do with him.
@@colbyJackCheese746 that explains the silent treatment 😶
This is like hitman 3 when 47 dreams of his targets
@@colbyJackCheese746 I sort of think that they maybe don't remember what happened or their past lives.
@@bobbyb4024 Interesting.
I like how the afterlife in Barry is an awkward version of Tree of Life
Well, this is all a poison-induced dream which means it’s all in Barry’s head. We know he has a conscience on some level here, but he’s probably too far gone at this point for him to turn things around.
Nah. He’s way too far gone. He saw Chris and smile and waved like nothing was wrong.
@@Sharpe1502 I’m saying that Chris rejecting his wave happened in his head too. If there was a complete lack of conscience, the hallucination of Chris probably would have embraced him. The fact that there was a rejection for him to reflect on for a split second is enough to know that there’s a part of Barry who is still very messed up for what he did to Chris. This won’t redeem Barry, but it will make his downfall that much more painful.
@@seanlaffey3633 you’ve got a great point there
@@Sharpe1502 yeah he's legit crazy this season I feel like he's way past redeeming at this point and I'm pretty sure I saw an interview where bill hader said he didn't think Barry deserved a happy ending as a character
Ryan's dad plays Jesse's dad in Breaking Bad
i knew this guy was familiar
Great catch!!
@@gabrielwjpg same I kept wondering what I knew him from
Barry is the first Strand type show.
I came to the comments looking for this. I'm so glad I wasn't disappointed
@@VultRoos Happy to entertain.
What's Strand?
@@RamiroBelmaresJr It's a reference to the video game death stranding.
The main creator tongue in cheek said that the game is the first of its genre. The first strand type game
@@VultRoos oooh, thanks. I gotta play it now!
I'm glad to see in the comment that i'm not the only who's thinking of The Sopranos with this sequence. That was so powerfull.
All the things Season 3 doing with things bringing back from Season 1 is absolutely wonderful.
Very much had the Sopranos vibe
"I'm very sorry I had to do that..."
"anyway, 4$ a pound..."
that was my first reaction too!
I wanna take this show's screenplay and idolize it forever. It is so good.
This was the EXACT route/ending I always thought that would unfold in Dexter
Still can’t believe the show flopped the ending twice
God I love this show, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a show resemble the dream sequences from The Sopranos as much as Barry.
Bill Hader better be showered with awards once this show finishes. I could not have thought of a better actor to play this role
The death stranding in full effect.
Truly shows that no one is as unhinged as Barry.
What's amazing about this scene is how symbolic it is also. Water is meant to represent consciousness in dreams, and Barry can't enter the water, or at least doesn't because he's stuck in the heavy materiel world of the mind, attached to all these killings. This show wasn't perfect, but I loved what it tried to do and did.
An irony here also is that Barry did not kill Ryan, he would have died regardless. I wonder what the psychological implications of that are. Brilliant.
The gunshot at 2:46 is cool as hell, especially when you first watched it and you don't realise whats happening until afterwards
I remember reading that it's the sound of a door opening, and you can hear screaming. It's supposed to be the doorway to hell opening.
What gunshot? That’s just the gates of hell opening up to welcome them all.
That was not a gunshot
@@pyromaniac034 yes it was
@@absurdrhino literally what gun shot sounds like that. It was supposed to be the afterlife opening
When I died twice, it was exactly like this but darker, people just standing, not talking forever waiting in the sound of perpetual silence.
It's longer than you think.
Seeing this high af gave me the heaviest panic attack of my life. I never killed a human, but fuck, the way they show this pain. It struck a cord. It broke me. I had to shut the TV off. Absolutely Brilliant. No other show has really covered the insanity and pain of killing another.
Anyone notice Moss wasn't there? Like I don't doubt Barry actually killed her, but it's a bit strange that the most important person he ever killed isn't in this scene.
Eh her actress just probably had scheduling conflicts.
My guess is that they're saving her for the season finale.
Well whose the woman standing beside Fernando @ 2:49?
@@c.s.mcleod7383 Esther
@@oliverkarlsson1653 nope
2:54 The sounds sound like something out of a Dennis Villeneuve movie.. Creepy vibes!
Arrival vibes
Made me think of Jean Jacket from Nope
I feel like this is how Dexter should’ve needed
Man I think you might have hit the nail on the head with that one
It's how it was originally going to😔
Exactly, they didnt have the balls to make Dexter have a moral dilemma, someone always makes the decision for him
@@TheDRODOR Honestly, I think Dexter: New Blood would have been perfect if everything ended at episode 8
Dexter was great during seasons 1, 2 and 4. I stopped watching a few episodes into season 5. No need to waste time on terrible writing.
It was cool to see Glen Flescher again even for a second
My interpretation is that Barry has trapped them there forever, they can't move forward, or talk or understand anything it's a great metaphor for death or the place murderers put their victims.
Beautiful performance by the actor portraying Ryan's father
I think he also played Jesse's father in Breaking Bad.
What were they all looking at? Was it symbolizing heaven? The gates opening? Reminded me of that Sopranos episode. Wonder if Hader took inspiration from that.
Oh yeah, he definitely took inspiration from lost in the pine barrens
@@GigaChadh976 not deathstranding? Kek
in the podcast he explains that the idea is that all this people are watching clouds with faces and other things of they past but after editing the scene he found it too didactic and did this instead
The waves crashing, the seagulls, and the dreamlike feel of the episode had to have been inspired by the sopranos when Tony got food poisoning (even realizing now that Barry was literally food poisoned). Both great episodes
@@akiraperu1 what's the podcast called?
Is this foreshadowing what will happen to Barry in the end. Death at his own hand and becoming one of his own victims. Depression has been a recurring theme throughout the entire series after all.
I’m thinking that eery storm that sounds overhead is Ryan’s fathers death joining Barry’s victim list
God the whole Ryan family arc is just sad
That sound on the beach is horrifying.
It was the gunshot and people rushing to them
@@gusngregg5127 nah i think it represents something else
@@DeathbatOfSpades nah I agree with you, its defiantly supposed to invoke the feeling of death being terrifying.
Reminded me abit of war of worlds
Made me think of Jean Jacket from Nope
Reminded me of Akira Kurosawa's "Dreams". Great series!
Darkest moment of Barry ever
Barry waves at Chris like he didn’t blow his brains out.
The scene reminds me of a monologue from The Equalizer (the original), an episode called Sea Of Fire. McCall does the ‘scared straight’ routine with a bunch of high school punks. He introduces them to a retired hit man played by a pre-fame David Straitharn. Straitharn says he had a dream near death where he was standing on a shore by a sea of fire surrounded by all his victims when god comes walking by. The monologue later got used as the premise for a Canadian series called Matrix.
Guess he’s back here again.
Super powerful scene, well filmed and well written I truly believe when we face death! We see what we have done wrong the ones we hurt.
At this point, after the season 3 finale, everyone would be better off with Barry dead, including Barry. He has absolutely nothing left, and he’s ruined too many lives.
He is in Hell. It's the Hell where you got everything you wanted (married Sally and have a kid) and you realize too late that it won't make you happy.
@@CharlieBrown20XD6 This last episode was just horrifying, everybody is either going to die or wish they were dead by the end of this.
2:47 that sounds straight out of Silent Hill 2
reminds me of one of Tony Soprano's weird dreams with the crashing waves and the desaturated color
Bill hader said its just a hallucination of his personal hell. So there you have it
All those where demons in disguise as barry victims then he saw the gates of hell open.
This scene is fantastic. this scene make me remenber the sopranos when Tony dreans.
😢. That scene got to me especially seeing Barry’s victims the beach
Seeing this episode makes me realize I need to really be a good soul god where this guy brings him to the hospital tells him about his son then🫣. Yeah man this scene got to me.
Yeah killing people have consequences that's what I understand about this show
Oh shit I hadn’t even realized that Ryan Madison’s dad killed himself
I think this is the best scene in the show it’s so powerful.
To be fair he didn't directly kill some of these people. Some were basically killed by their own stupidity and happenstance while trying to kill Barry. Like the bikers. But it do be a nice touch to show just how stupid guilt can be and how some of make everyone problem around us our fault.
Lol barry still killed the bikers, just because they were trying to kill him also doesn't mean he isn't responsible. Wtf are you on about bro? 🤣
@@Space_Ghost_Hunter Yea he did. But should he fill guilt over it? Fuck no. They were trying to kill him. Its whatever bro, if you don't get it you dont get it. Bro.🙃
@@Alphascrub_77 Christopher Walken
@@Space_Ghost_Hunter he didn't though? Except the one he crashed into. One of them was shot at the car dealership by someone else, one of them crashed when they were trying to handoff the gun on the highway. And then Sally killed one of them after this scene
Everyone on that beach was waiting to go to hell and technically, Barry didn’t kill Tyler’s sister, the car salesman did.
Taylor*
@@GS-kj6ur thank you
@Mister Majestic we only saw a small part of Chris’ life. Depending on your theology, he could have other unattoned sins we’ve never seen because they had nothing to do with Barry. Or it could be predestination where only a few are chosen. It’s all human invention so there’s really no wrong reason. Plus that could explain Janice’s absence (his Heaven-bound victims were somewhere else).
@Mister Majestic Also remember that Barry made Chris kill that Bolivian guy when Taylor and Co. Failed to ambush cristobal in the airport
2:49 I was like "Esther!"
Death stranding
Yee gives me the same vibes
I wish they never killed off Goran. Maybe they can bring back the same actor as Goran's twin brother, and have him be the same character
this has "Join the Club" vibes
Love that episode.
I thought The Boys was crazy but so much happened in that last episode its insane
Kojima moment
This was great it was like a hell of guilt for Barry
This might be my favorite sequence in the show so far. The speech from the dad was amazing and so sad. Him and all his victims waiting at the gates of hell with those matter of fact expressions on their face is brilliant. An amazing show that I really can't wait to see how it ends.
Every episode this season casually had some incredibly chilling/unique artistic achievement.
S3 E1: The oner introducing Sally's life as a showrunner
S3 E2: Chilling Hader performances in office freakout and threatening Gene's family
S3 E3: While a quieter episode, I'd give it to the conversation in the trailer where an Gene figures out he triggered Janice's death.
S3 E4: The house explosion and Sally's on-stage panic attack
S3 E5: The oner FBI-raid
S3 E6: The Emmy--nominated bike chase
S3 E7: This magical realism sequence done to perfection, also
S3 E8: Every. Fucking. Performance (but particularly Albert confronting Barry). This and the crossfade stylings between all of these stories as they converge.
Were they waiting for the War of the Worlds destroyers?
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought it sounded a lot like the Tripod sound. There's a lot of familiar things in this scene.
@@charlierunkle19 Tripod! g dammit that was the word I was looking for. Was driving me nuts.
the only way it would've been better is if he watched the crowd walk into the light and he has to stay as darkness surrounds him
The actor who played Ryan’s dad was incredible.
Hell sounds like a submarine
I see more and more "Dexter" in this show. Initially, the creators of the most effective maniac in history thought to kill him at the end. And he had to see in the end all his sacrifices. Just like here
This episode hit the sopranos type dream sequence on the nail. Sopranos is my favorite show but this season of Barry might top sopranos
That wave lol
He was a piece of their inevitable death even if he didn’t pull the trigger for each one. The heartbreaking part of this scene is that Barry actually IS a good hearted person so his incapability to be able to move on with the others confused him. His violent side was a product of calculated and very gradual manipulation thrown on him when he was mentally unstable, incredibly vulnerable, unimaginably traumatized, and unfortunately desensitized to extreme violence. He was a killer, but almost always at the order of someone else. I think Barry dissociates while killing so the violence would feel completely separate from his true nature . Even being confronted by his victims the beach couldn’t quite break through to his deeply guarded subconscious, where’s he’s desperately clinging to the GOOD still left within him. Leaving him confused.
This was nuts!
Im surprised that Det Moss wasn't in this scene
Did this give anyone else Sopranos vibes?
I guess third time is the charm. I'm sobbing like a child
Buddy had a Sopranos fever dream
This plays like a riff on the ocean scene from Tree of Life. However in this version none of the people have any idea what they're supposed to be looking at in the ocean...
I think Detective Janice Moss made it to heaven but the guys on the beach were going to hell.
What did chris do to deserve that tho? I think the actress just might not have been available, bc others people that Barry killed also weren't there.
@@woahdaddy.standbackman.902 idk what he did, but he’s on that beach with a bunch of criminals and Barry.
They probably just weren't able to get Janice's actress back for this scene.
@@woahdaddy.standbackman.902 He killed a guy, that’s why he was going to go to the cops, the guilt.
@@woahdaddy.standbackman.902 the finale just confirmed my theory :-)
2:56 Who’s the bald guy in the blue sweater? I don’t recognize him
Barry killed him at the beginning of season 3 episode 1. He was the guy who was gonna forgive Jeff.
@@Hgw-ui2ti oh RIGHT! I thought he looked familiar XD
I'm forgiving Jeff 😄.
Bam Bam
There's no forgiven Jeff!
Love this scene, they're waiting for the boatman
Death Stranding, the Barry Version
Directed by Hideo Kojima and Bill Hader
😂
Coolest. Scene. EVER.
When you are assassin for hires you don't have feelings.
They cut out the part where Ronny sees Barry and starts fighting him again
No guy stabbed in the nut? They better be saving it for a flashback.
Maybe he was there but how can you know exactly where he is? Maybe if he had a knife down there but nobody in this scene has any wound so yeah
everyone's asking where's janice and don't get me wrong, i'm wondering about that too
but not as much as how goran had the time to grow a beard after dying
All these people are people that deserved to die, that committed sins in their previous life. Janice, despite her foolish mistake, was innocent and sinless.
I wonder why Janice wasn’t on the beach.
The beach is supposed to represent purgatory so it’s filled with Barry and the people he killed. The people he killed did bad things which is why he killed them.
Janice was an officer and didn’t break and rules/laws
Ryan wasn't there...poor dad
nah they're both going to hell unfortunately
Ryan committed adulatory and Ryan's father killed himself. Really sad to think about since the dad was Christian.
Cause Barry didn't kill Ryan
@@balsasjekloca9308 he didn't kill the biker girl (sister of Taylor) either, it was the car sales guy who shot her, yet she is in the scene
Where's Janice?
Where's Janice in all this? I think it's cause she actually went to heaven instead of hell like everyone else.. just my theory 🤷🏽♂️
I was surprised we didn’t see Janice
She wasn't there because she was a good person, unlike others you see in this scene, i expected to see her too but this scene is more like "the gates of hell", and they wait to enter, Janice has no place there, but the others you see in this scene, including Chris, makes sense
Reminds me of Tony Soprano on the Jersey Boardwalk.