I really appreciate that I can go back and rewatch these videos so many times. They don't date themselves. There's nothing wrong with topical entertainment, but the very PBS styling of these videos make them very rewatchable and great as educational materials for the art and technology that goes into games
Having watched dozens of these videos, I have to say gaming historian may be my favorite TH-cam content creator of all time. These videos are television quality. The narration is top quality along with all other aspects of the videos. This is something I would expect to see on PBS and I enjoy that you style your content in that way. Cheers, can't wait for more.
Redhotsmasher Easily done, the Japanese language combines two words to form a new word and also combines the meanings of the two words, otherwise known as a portmanteau.
gamerdude0 Yeah, the Japanese language likes contracted portmanteaus for some reason, like dejikame = dejitaru kamera = digital camera, or Famicom (=Famiri Konpyuutaa/Family Computer).
Shut up. No time to free-advertise by commenting on popular youtube videos....its time to be offended!!! Aren't you Hispanic anyway? You should be outraged!!!
I find it ironic that he thought Mario dressing up in costumes from different countries was racist, when Mario himself is often thought of as a big Italian stereotype.
+ThreeDaysOfDan I would appreciate it if youd post a trigger warning on words. Words trigger me and I have battled PTSD from it for longer then you can understand. #banwords #picturebooksmatter #killalllibrarians
Eh, the stereotypes don’t bother me much. I think, as long as they’re jokes or at least aren’t used in a rude or offensive way, and people don’t actually believe that everyone in the stereotyped country acts like the stereotype. I especially love the stereotype that us Brits all speak like old rich people and spend all day drinking tea while playing croquet. It’s not accurate, but I love it.
Punchout is one of those games that makes fun of everyone and it has some amazing characters for it. It's a shame that the series is in the void space because of it though. After all we can't have Mario asserting Italian supremacy in current year.
Mario himself is a stereotype but since he's italian and not another race he gets away with it, because some people have a spine and can handle a cute character in an outfit.
Oh man! I had the Qix game on my Game Boy when I was a kid, I hated it, I could never figure it out! lol, who would've thought I was playing a Mario game ^.^
While a true geek like me had the best version on the Atari XL800 and loved it......What is your talent, making ice cream....Mine is hacking systems ~ parody on Spy to Scout TF2 and so fitting
Not necessarily a character, but how about doing a video on the "Totaka's Song" appearances? There's quite a few, but you don't need to do them all. I always thought it was interesting that Kazumi Totaka hid the melody in the games he worked on. It'd be cool to see you do a video on that!
I'm sorry, could you please explain to me how those different international Mario cutscenes were even SLIGHTLY prejudiced or racist in any way? It just portrays the general culture of the nations they're depicting. There's nothing hateful about them. As a hispanic person myself I don't really feel any reason to feel angry seeing Mario in a sombrero. I have no clue why you're uncomfortable. Simply portraying different nations' cultures is not racist. The only people who make a big deal of it are themselves casually racist. We don't require you to make an executive decision to be offended on our behalf.
Well said, political correctness has become too excessive. Furthermore, in light of already existent *human rights* and the growth/defense thereof, I fail to see the "need" for political correctness.
I thought Mario with a sombrero and cactus in the desert singing or whistling was cute lol. No offense taken as well. I would play this game just to see all the cutscenes.
Mario with a sombrero is the best thing in the world! I'm from Uruguay and my girlfriend is from Mexico and is always fun to joke about stereotypes and things like that :3
Cygnus Fayth Haha, like you? You consider yourself strong and "crushing" me? Your side consists of nothing but pathetic snowflakes who get triggered and have panic attacks if you so much as see someone wear a t-shirt with a logo you don't like. There is not a single "strong" person on your side, just a throng of anxious, overly emotional, coddled trust fund babies unaware of their own hypocrisy. Everything you say demonstrates how out of touch with reality you are, and this is why your ridiculous idealism is nothing but fantasy best reserved for toddler bedtime stories. As long as there are two people left on this planet there will always be disagreement and controversy, and your ideals of "harmony" just create a wider divide.
It surprises me how many of these I had actually seen but completely forgotten about. Thank you for bringing back some great childhood memories that might've been lost forever were it not for this video!
Yeah this guy acting triggered about stereotypes? He is the biggest stereotype of them all, a white millennial beta male, that has to pander and apologize his way through life because his mommy said so. Oh and if he isn't gay, he should be, because his balls apparently didn't develop, or his aforementioned mommy, and or girl husband has them locked away. This is a major problem, white males have been turned into girls by this sickening liberal "culture".
It's not offensive, but I think some people feel it's necessary to point out that they are "uncomfortable" with any suggestively racial material in order to prove they are above racism.
People are trained by society to be "uncomfortable" about the differences between cultures rather than accept the fact that it's our differences that are humorous. If everyone just calmed down and stopped being offended by harmless stereotypes, we could all enjoy a good laugh...not at each others expense, but together. It's too bad everyone is so bloody sensitive these days and people take pleasure in feeling like they are being put at a disadvantage.
Yoshi may be boring in single player mode, but my friend and I used to play the NES one together and it gets BONKERS. We got into the most heated matches playing that game. It's still one of our favorite go-to retro games to play when we're together.
I think they say fight in golf is because it was probably translated from ganbare or ganbatte in japanese which both mean "Good Luck" or "Fight on" and they probably took the Fight on translation instead of Good Luck
In Japan I don't think racial caricatures are as gravely offensive as they are elsewhere. There are many times (in general) where you can spot a ridiculously stereotypical Japanese caricature amongst the others, so I think it's safe to say it's just a matter of differing sensibilities. It just seems to be a part of the Japanese sense of humor to poke fun at the way humans tend to differentiate themselves.
It's not offensive anywhere. Do Mexicans wear that clothing? Yes. Do they live in the desert? Yes. Do they play those instruments? Yes. Where's the offense?
The only people who don't understand the humorous and innocent aspect of stereotypes are overly sensitive and virtue signalling white Western people. The rest of the world is fine with it.
4:03 Why does Mario appear in a stereotypical way? Because it was a Japanese manga style. Until at least the late 2000's, Japanese people frequently had the opportunity to see this stereotypical art style of "Gaizin(外人/がいじん=foreigner)" pictures in children's picture books and even in Osamu Tezuka's manga like Astro Boy. Until the spread of smartphones in the late 2010s in Japan, "Gaijin" were a rare sight for Japanese people. So, there was a kind of Japanese manga culture to exaggerate their characteristics in that style. ...And even today's Japanese talk about Sushi, Sumo and Samurai when we chatting with foreigners lol.
Sneaky Mario. I was thinking: why not a video explaining the previous appearances of all the King of Fighters characters? I know some have pretty obscure origins. But most had their own games before being casted for KOF.
I think rockstar paid homage to that qix game in bully aka canis canem edit because that is identicle to how you do the art stages so hats off to rockstar
For the F-1 Race cameo, that's actually Luigi you see after the Canada course (and before the USA course). Mario appears between Courses 5 (Japan) and 6 (Brazil). There are also cameo appearances of Toad (he's the first character you see), Peach (who appears between Courses 3 & 4), and Donkey Kong (who appears before the last course {Egypt}). Bowser also makes an appearance during the game's ending sequence.
"Come on, Nintendo. You are better than this" That was kind of an unwarranted comment, especially when the game in question it's like 20 years old and doesn't reflect Nintendo's current way. Not to mention it wasn't racist and you are making a storm on a glass of water. No, just no. It's not convincing anyone.
"What's this? Overly sensitive game historians and their equally defensive fan base are causing a ruckus? A large influx of BEES ought to put a stop to that!"
Plus, as someone who is also of Italian decent, why aren't uncomfortable with Mario in general? By your logic, he would be very racist: big nose, stereotypical moustache, yelling things like "its'a meeeee" and "mama mia", etc. No mention of that though. -_-
An off-handed reference- if you beat the original Toejam and Earl, one of the NPCs on Funkatron comments "no hedgehogs here." Kinda works better if you beat Sonic with all the Chaos Emeralds, considering what Funkatron looks like.
Why is Norman worried about offensive stereotyping of other countries when Mario himself is an offensive stereotype of Italians? Anyway my vote goes to Sonic.
He isn't an Offensive stereotype. The way he speaks is stereotypical, sure, but other than that he isn't much of a stereotype. Plus he's not offensive, at all. So it seems that nobody cares, because there isn't anything TO care about.
Qix was made by the Japanese company Taito and they pronounce it as quicks. However, everyone in the USA says kicks, so you could argue that kicks is correct for the USA. As far as I'm concerned, if the creator says it's quicks, then it's quicks. It's like the character Lucina in Smash Brothers. The correct way to pronounce her name is Lukina (like Luke Skywalker) and that's how they say it in Japan. However in the USA, it's Loo see na. Again, just because foreign countries fuck up the name, doesn't somehow override the original pronunciation, so Lukina is correct.
You have a good point, but in the case of Lucina you have to consider that it's an real name with heritage from Europe (More specifically Italy or Germany, I believe). Add in that Fire Emblem is very much based on a European medieval setting, and it's pretty fair to say that the "proper" pronunciation would be something like Lu-chea-na.
Shuda87 ルキナ Is her name in Fire Emblem and Smash Brothers, so that's that. Isn't it nice how Japanese is a phonetic language? We don't need to spend much time trying to figure out how to say stuff. Dedede is another one where the pronunciation varies based on region. I want to be right, so I use the correct pronunciation. I play the Japanese versions of games, partly because I like having correct names, etc. But mostly because I love video games and know that Japan has the most good games and the best versions of games.
NoeLPZC He pronounces her name correctly in the Japanese version. What is the name of the boxer character in Street Fighter? M Bison, right? Just because the American version fucked up the names doesn't make it override their original Japanese names. It's pretty obvious that M Bison is the name of a boxer since the name is very close to Mike Tyson.
Inazuma65 The same names are pronounced differently in different languages - as long as the pronunciations are made by the developers of the game they're "correct", regardless of the developer's location/language. All the English Pokemon names are "correct" despite being very different to the Japanese names.
Norm! I dont think Nintendo was being racist or anything 4:02. Wasnt Nintendo even more Japanese back then? Well the Japanese like to celebrate stereotypes of other countries and not out of disrespect from what I've seen. Just my 2 cents.
Awesome! I hope to someday get Game & Watch Galleries 1 through 3. I got Game & Watch Gallery 4 several years ago for GBA. I played it on my DS back then. I think I bought that game at a local game store that unfortunately no longer exists called High Tec Game Center.
How about Sparkster? He's a nice character that has appeared in a lot of konami games rather than his own. I think you'll have fun with this one! Sorry if it was already done. Great channel!
Tetris also had Mario if you bet the hardest setting on 'Game Type B, Level 9, and High 5'. You actually see a few Nintendo characters and a Space Shuttle taking off. lol
I find it hard to complain about Mario being dressed in stereotypical clothing of different places considering the character itself is a horrible Italian stereotype.
One thing that would be interesting to hear about is more about how the Origin titles are interconnected, and considering how influential Origin were back in the days, I think it would be nice for people who are not as familiar with the company & its work to hear a bit more about it (Fun fact: Ultima was one of the main influences on early JRPGs, while not as influential as Wizardry, the developers of Dragon Warrior/Quest & Final Fantasy were still heavily influenced by Ultima, so that should help convince the people who grew up with consoles of Origins importance ;) But that's obviously not the only important thing they did). The ones I know of are the Kilrathi fighter in Ultima 7, the Kilrathi in Ultima Underworld, the "Tie fighters" in Ultima 1 (which were retconed into ships from the Wing Commander series), the beds from Bioforge being used in the Crusader series and the system for writing dates being the same in the Crusader series & System Shock. While officially these games are not in the same universe, Origin still liked to make cameos. Also related would be Ultima & Dungeon Keeper, made by Bullfrog (watch the intro to Dungeon Keeper and compare it to Ultima 8, also the last level in Dungeon Keeper shows the same important character).
Tennis on GB was so good! It was the first GB game i ever got. My grandma gave it to me on christmas eve. I got my GB on christmas day. My parents were pissed because she ruined the surprise! I obviously knew what santa was gonna bring me!
I don't think Nintendo was being racist at all, in the slightest. To me, it's Mario's African cousin, Asian cousin, etc. Or even just Asian version of Mario, African version of Mario, etc. Not Mario in blackface or pulling his eyes into a slant while wearing buck teeth. You know, ACTUAL racism.
I always used to love playing the F1 game, it was my second game ever, first being Choplifter II. I always wondered if that guy was mario, and yes, it is!
Hey, Gaming Historian. If you don't read this no big. I really like your show a lot. Your humour is super subtle and not to shoved in your face. Why I personally enjoy watching you over say, spacehamster is because the gaming and appreciation for the medium comes first. Not you constantly mugging to the screen every two minutes or shoving special effects down our throats. For me, those shows run out of steam because being "Funny" on camera is hard to do. One is bound to start re-using the same jokes over and over. You keep the focous on the video games and not you trying to be overly cute. Thank you so much for this show and the dedication you obviously show.
But why would that make him uncomfortable? Mario is a stereotypical white guy Italian plumber. So we can only be stereotypical about white people or western countries? This goes to the whole Simpson's and Apu contoversey where a show built around stereotypes offends a minority group with its stereotypes
Great list, proud to say I knew most of them. Btw, there's also Tarin in Link's Awakening. Whilst he isn't Mario per se, he does look a lot like him, loves mushrooms, and turns into a raccoon.
Love the fact that u have Castlevania Bloodlines (Sega) on the first page of that book in the intro. Im late but i stumbled upon & subbed to ur channel a few days ago. imma 33yr old guy that grew up on these games, and love history as well...so gaming history is awesome & Refreshing.👍
Maybe Banjo and/or Kazooie? It's not a big secret, but his first and latest appearances were in another franchise's racing game. (Diddy Kong Racing, and Sonic & Sega All Stars Racing).
4:00 It's offensive now but back then, people only had really stereotypical views of other countries; this was before the Internet and affordable plane tickets.
When you criticize Nintendo for the "stereotypes" you have to remember this was thirty years ago and it was Japan. Everyone wasn't butthurt for simply representing what people look like from a region yet. You are applying today's PC to thirty years ago in a foreign country. That is your fault.
Hello! If it's not too much trouble to ask, could you do a "Mario's Secret Games" on the actual Game and Watch series? You know: Mario's Cement Factory, ect...
I love how people get absurdly offended at people getting mildly offended at stuff. It's always fun seeing all of the same people going on insane tirades about the SJW's and the evil liberals who censor every thing while getting totally real and not botted/manipulated thumbs ups. I really love it when the annoying freshmen at school do it but in real life then start unironically dabbing and repeating memes from 2015 as if they are somehow funny. I also like getting 5 hours of sleep a night it's really fun TH-cam commenters are the annoying kids at school but under every video you want to watch Also good video
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I really appreciate that I can go back and rewatch these videos so many times. They don't date themselves. There's nothing wrong with topical entertainment, but the very PBS styling of these videos make them very rewatchable and great as educational materials for the art and technology that goes into games
Fun fact, the Mexican Mario costume from super Mario odyssey actually made its first debut in Qix
But originally appeared in the 1986 Super Mario Bros. anime movie.
@@Benjamillion so did So Long Gay Bowser
Having watched dozens of these videos, I have to say gaming historian may be my favorite TH-cam content creator of all time. These videos are television quality. The narration is top quality along with all other aspects of the videos. This is something I would expect to see on PBS and I enjoy that you style your content in that way. Cheers, can't wait for more.
Picross is a combination of the words "picture" and "crossword." So, it is intended for you to pronounce the "Pic" like you do in "picture."
Ah, good to know! Thanks! I've always said it wrong then, haha. :)
Actually the game is about Apple, pumpkin, blueberry, and 3.14.
Indeed, I too instinctively thought "Pie-cross?! Surely it's "Pick-cross", from pic(ture) and (a)cross?".
Redhotsmasher Easily done, the Japanese language combines two words to form a new word and also combines the meanings of the two words, otherwise known as a portmanteau.
gamerdude0
Yeah, the Japanese language likes contracted portmanteaus for some reason, like dejikame = dejitaru kamera = digital camera, or Famicom (=Famiri Konpyuutaa/Family Computer).
The way they drew Mario's nose and eyes makes it look like he has two sets of differently drawn eyes. It's kinda creepy
Mario's survival horror.
Great, now I can't un-see that.
kinda like his look on the pirated version of super mario bros in the famicom 31 in 1 muticartidge
***** I saw it too, it's creepy. I hadn't heard of some of these games, thanks for the video GH
At what time / game in the video?
I could watch 4:46 on loop forever. Made my laugh so hard! :D
Your here!!!!!!
Same!
Rerez,hi ive been watching your positive and negatives series.Its pretty great
@@Hi-ud4vz *You're
Shut up. No time to free-advertise by commenting on popular youtube videos....its time to be offended!!! Aren't you Hispanic anyway? You should be outraged!!!
I find it ironic that he thought Mario dressing up in costumes from different countries was racist, when Mario himself is often thought of as a big Italian stereotype.
+Morgil people are overly offended over nothing now a days.
+Morgil who is also from brooklyn apparently
+Morgil I guess Italian's maybe fall under Norman's 'white' label...meaning fuck 'em?
+Topher Glenn And don't forget that he also use to be a Wrestler
+ThreeDaysOfDan I would appreciate it if youd post a trigger warning on words. Words trigger me and I have battled PTSD from it for longer then you can understand. #banwords #picturebooksmatter #killalllibrarians
Eh, the stereotypes don’t bother me much. I think, as long as they’re jokes or at least aren’t used in a rude or offensive way, and people don’t actually believe that everyone in the stereotyped country acts like the stereotype.
I especially love the stereotype that us Brits all speak like old rich people and spend all day drinking tea while playing croquet. It’s not accurate, but I love it.
Punchout is one of those games that makes fun of everyone and it has some amazing characters for it. It's a shame that the series is in the void space because of it though. After all we can't have Mario asserting Italian supremacy in current year.
Mario himself is a stereotype but since he's italian and not another race he gets away with it, because some people have a spine and can handle a cute character in an outfit.
I thought you all drank lager and played cricket...
@@jonathangoodman9089 That’s another one which I like. It’s not always true but it is for some people.
Hear hear. We all had thicker skins in those days...
Oh man! I had the Qix game on my Game Boy when I was a kid, I hated it, I could never figure it out! lol, who would've thought I was playing a Mario game ^.^
bruh its the french toast man himself
While a true geek like me had the best version on the Atari XL800 and loved it......What is your talent, making ice cream....Mine is hacking systems ~ parody on Spy to Scout TF2 and so fitting
What about the "Mario" in link's awakening?
What?
Mk DRS
He’s talking about Tarin, who is a reference to Mario.
the game "Yoshi" was renamed Mario and Yoshi in the UK too.
It’s for all of Europe.
Not necessarily a character, but how about doing a video on the "Totaka's Song" appearances? There's quite a few, but you don't need to do them all.
I always thought it was interesting that Kazumi Totaka hid the melody in the games he worked on.
It'd be cool to see you do a video on that!
Nintendo watching this RN: “😞😞 my bad Gaming Historain. I wasn’t proud of that moment”
I'm sorry, could you please explain to me how those different international Mario cutscenes were even SLIGHTLY prejudiced or racist in any way? It just portrays the general culture of the nations they're depicting. There's nothing hateful about them. As a hispanic person myself I don't really feel any reason to feel angry seeing Mario in a sombrero. I have no clue why you're uncomfortable. Simply portraying different nations' cultures is not racist. The only people who make a big deal of it are themselves casually racist. We don't require you to make an executive decision to be offended on our behalf.
Well said, political correctness has become too excessive. Furthermore, in light of already existent *human rights* and the growth/defense thereof, I fail to see the "need" for political correctness.
I thought Mario with a sombrero and cactus in the desert singing or whistling was cute lol. No offense taken as well. I would play this game just to see all the cutscenes.
Mario with a sombrero is the best thing in the world!
I'm from Uruguay and my girlfriend is from Mexico and is always fun to joke about stereotypes and things like that :3
Cygnus Fayth Political correctness is not correct about anything. It's a misnomer.
Cygnus Fayth Haha, like you? You consider yourself strong and "crushing" me? Your side consists of nothing but pathetic snowflakes who get triggered and have panic attacks if you so much as see someone wear a t-shirt with a logo you don't like. There is not a single "strong" person on your side, just a throng of anxious, overly emotional, coddled trust fund babies unaware of their own hypocrisy. Everything you say demonstrates how out of touch with reality you are, and this is why your ridiculous idealism is nothing but fantasy best reserved for toddler bedtime stories. As long as there are two people left on this planet there will always be disagreement and controversy, and your ideals of "harmony" just create a wider divide.
5:00 ... MY CHILDHOOD...I loved these games when I was a young kid. Some of my favorite GB games EVER.
History Of Metal Gear! :D
It surprises me how many of these I had actually seen but completely forgotten about. Thank you for bringing back some great childhood memories that might've been lost forever were it not for this video!
4:00 im southern asian and im not offended XD
Marsel Music because white people are always offended for you because I guess they have that luxury
Yeah this guy acting triggered about stereotypes? He is the biggest stereotype of them all, a white millennial beta male, that has to pander and apologize his way through life because his mommy said so. Oh and if he isn't gay, he should be, because his balls apparently didn't develop, or his aforementioned mommy, and or girl husband has them locked away. This is a major problem, white males have been turned into girls by this sickening liberal "culture".
@@A_Man_In_His_Van Try to have some class dude. Jesus Christ
@Marsel Music I'm Mexican and I'm also not offended by the cutscene at 3:40, in fact I consider it funny : )
@@A_Man_In_His_Van Based
lol at saying "fight!" before the golf game. That is hilarious.
I don't think that Mario being dressed in cultural clothing is offensive.
It's not offensive, but I think some people feel it's necessary to point out that they are "uncomfortable" with any suggestively racial material in order to prove they are above racism.
emptysaint Just dropping by to give the daily reminder that I'm not racist.
Ok? Not racist. Thanks, everybody.
emptysaint They shouldn't have to feel that way.
cormano64
my life as a white man
People are trained by society to be "uncomfortable" about the differences between cultures rather than accept the fact that it's our differences that are humorous. If everyone just calmed down and stopped being offended by harmless stereotypes, we could all enjoy a good laugh...not at each others expense, but together. It's too bad everyone is so bloody sensitive these days and people take pleasure in feeling like they are being put at a disadvantage.
Yoshi may be boring in single player mode, but my friend and I used to play the NES one together and it gets BONKERS. We got into the most heated matches playing that game. It's still one of our favorite go-to retro games to play when we're together.
4:46
Oh, boy!
Luigi themed nightmares!
I think they say fight in golf is because it was probably translated from ganbare or ganbatte in japanese which both mean "Good Luck" or "Fight on" and they probably took the Fight on translation instead of Good Luck
rudorot65 I thought the same!
In Japan I don't think racial caricatures are as gravely offensive as they are elsewhere. There are many times (in general) where you can spot a ridiculously stereotypical Japanese caricature amongst the others, so I think it's safe to say it's just a matter of differing sensibilities. It just seems to be a part of the Japanese sense of humor to poke fun at the way humans tend to differentiate themselves.
It's not offensive anywhere. Do Mexicans wear that clothing? Yes. Do they live in the desert? Yes. Do they play those instruments? Yes. Where's the offense?
The only people who don't understand the humorous and innocent aspect of stereotypes are overly sensitive and virtue signalling white Western people. The rest of the world is fine with it.
Mario can't stop getting his plumber hands on to everything he sees.....
4:03 Why does Mario appear in a stereotypical way?
Because it was a Japanese manga style. Until at least the late 2000's, Japanese people frequently had the opportunity to see this stereotypical art style of "Gaizin(外人/がいじん=foreigner)" pictures in children's picture books and even in Osamu Tezuka's manga like Astro Boy.
Until the spread of smartphones in the late 2010s in Japan, "Gaijin" were a rare sight for Japanese people. So, there was a kind of Japanese manga culture to exaggerate their characteristics in that style.
...And even today's Japanese talk about Sushi, Sumo and Samurai when we chatting with foreigners lol.
"C'mon Nintendo, you're better than this."
Get over the stereotypes, I guarantee a majority of people didn't care or enjoyed the portrayals.
I really do love these two cameo videos. Norm I would really love to see you do another video like this sometime this year.
White guy talking about mexican Mario: c'mon Nintendo, you're better than this
Mexican guy: OH FUCK YEAH MARIO CON SOMBRERO THATS AWESOME
It was just nintendo appealing to other cultures. Not everything is racist guys.
This generation is so fragile
i think we can all agree the depictions are pretty stereotypical regardless which is what the guy in the video said.
@@videostak no. We can't. P****.
Great video. I love these kind of videos where "secrets" are revealed. Always glad to see a new Gaming Historian vid. Also, I'm loving the podcast.
Sneaky Mario.
I was thinking: why not a video explaining the previous appearances of all the King of Fighters characters? I know some have pretty obscure origins. But most had their own games before being casted for KOF.
I believe in Alleyway Mario also makes a appearance besides you playing as him, rather I think as a bonus stage shaped like a 8-bit Mario.
I think rockstar paid homage to that qix game in bully aka canis canem edit because that is identicle to how you do the art stages so hats off to rockstar
You beat me saying this haha!
:3 well it was a quick notice
I saw many Qix clones over the years.
So maybe Rockstar do not even know for Qix but took inspiration from one of the clones
Says Mario in donkey kong is to obvious.(shows Yoshi games)
The "Yoshi" games were less-known than Donkey Kong. That's the reason.
Crazy how the music in game and watch gallery for the gameboy color brings back vivid memories..I got it on my birthday
I suggest Sonic cameos.
For the F-1 Race cameo, that's actually Luigi you see after the Canada course (and before the USA course). Mario appears between Courses 5 (Japan) and 6 (Brazil). There are also cameo appearances of Toad (he's the first character you see), Peach (who appears between Courses 3 & 4), and Donkey Kong (who appears before the last course {Egypt}). Bowser also makes an appearance during the game's ending sequence.
"Come on, Nintendo. You are better than this" That was kind of an unwarranted comment, especially when the game in question it's like 20 years old and doesn't reflect Nintendo's current way. Not to mention it wasn't racist and you are making a storm on a glass of water. No, just no. It's not convincing anyone.
Next he's going to tell us that punch out is racist because each character is a stereotype
I completely agree with all of you. Does this strike anyone else as a case of excessive political correctness?
Elround4
Yes it's a new internet trend.
"What's this? Overly sensitive game historians and their equally defensive fan base are causing a ruckus? A large influx of BEES ought to put a stop to that!"
What?! You're saying that because I'm related to bees?! That's racist! Seriously Fernando, not cool! Come on, you're better than this!
funny thing about f1 is that sonic was AT a REAL F1 race in 1993
Plus, as someone who is also of Italian decent, why aren't uncomfortable with Mario in general? By your logic, he would be very racist: big nose, stereotypical moustache, yelling things like "its'a meeeee" and "mama mia", etc.
No mention of that though. -_-
It's because Italians are "white". No one cares if it's about white people.
An off-handed reference- if you beat the original Toejam and Earl, one of the NPCs on Funkatron comments "no hedgehogs here." Kinda works better if you beat Sonic with all the Chaos Emeralds, considering what Funkatron looks like.
Why is Norman worried about offensive stereotyping of other countries when Mario himself is an offensive stereotype of Italians? Anyway my vote goes to Sonic.
What is offensive about Mario?
Sou1Creeper He's a stereotype of Italians yet no one seems to care it seems.
***** Norman is talking about stereotypes in this video. If people don't think Mario is a stereotype that's fine but he is and Norman can't see that.
***** Cool, well tell that to Francis Ford Coppola, ask him what he thinks.
He isn't an Offensive stereotype. The way he speaks is stereotypical, sure, but other than that he isn't much of a stereotype. Plus he's not offensive, at all. So it seems that nobody cares, because there isn't anything TO care about.
I find alleyway interesting, because Breakout was also about a spaceship, even having John Glenn on the cover.
Qix was made by the Japanese company Taito and they pronounce it as quicks. However, everyone in the USA says kicks, so you could argue that kicks is correct for the USA. As far as I'm concerned, if the creator says it's quicks, then it's quicks.
It's like the character Lucina in Smash Brothers. The correct way to pronounce her name is Lukina (like Luke Skywalker) and that's how they say it in Japan. However in the USA, it's Loo see na. Again, just because foreign countries fuck up the name, doesn't somehow override the original pronunciation, so Lukina is correct.
You have a good point, but in the case of Lucina you have to consider that it's an real name with heritage from Europe (More specifically Italy or Germany, I believe). Add in that Fire Emblem is very much based on a European medieval setting, and it's pretty fair to say that the "proper" pronunciation would be something like Lu-chea-na.
Shuda87
ルキナ Is her name in Fire Emblem and Smash Brothers, so that's that. Isn't it nice how Japanese is a phonetic language? We don't need to spend much time trying to figure out how to say stuff. Dedede is another one where the pronunciation varies based on region. I want to be right, so I use the correct pronunciation.
I play the Japanese versions of games, partly because I like having correct names, etc. But mostly because I love video games and know that Japan has the most good games and the best versions of games.
Inazuma65
The announcer pronounces her name as "Loo SEE na", so it's just as correct as the Japanese version.
NoeLPZC
He pronounces her name correctly in the Japanese version. What is the name of the boxer character in Street Fighter? M Bison, right? Just because the American version fucked up the names doesn't make it override their original Japanese names. It's pretty obvious that M Bison is the name of a boxer since the name is very close to Mike Tyson.
Inazuma65
The same names are pronounced differently in different languages - as long as the pronunciations are made by the developers of the game they're "correct", regardless of the developer's location/language. All the English Pokemon names are "correct" despite being very different to the Japanese names.
Another fantastic video. Well done mate.
Norm! I dont think Nintendo was being racist or anything 4:02. Wasnt Nintendo even more Japanese back then? Well the Japanese like to celebrate stereotypes of other countries and not out of disrespect from what I've seen. Just my 2 cents.
NightIIJester Doesn't need to be intentional. Hence the word stereotype.
4:01 calm down. Mario traveled to a location and had learned a little about each place and the locals dressed him up each time.
whatever, that aint racist
Great video Norm, I was surprised at how many of these games I've played! Keep up the good work!
He's all hurt that Mario was cultural appropriating in the 1980's. Hilarious!
Awesome! I hope to someday get Game & Watch Galleries 1 through 3. I got Game & Watch Gallery 4 several years ago for GBA. I played it on my DS back then. I think I bought that game at a local game store that unfortunately no longer exists called High Tec Game Center.
It was awesome to meet you at Magfest Norm (I'm the guy who sold you the Mario Paint).
Awesome to meet you too, and thanks for selling me Mario Paint! :)
Hey Norm, your channel is amazing, congratulations, when do you come to Mexico?
Do Mario's Secret Super NES Games next!
I owned all 3 sports games, Qix, and Tetris. Now that you mention it, I do recall seeing Mario and Luigi in Baseball.
Don't mind me, I'm just gonna drop a nice normal comment in here saying how entertaining and informative I found this video.
Have a great day! c:
You too :D
How about Sparkster? He's a nice character that has appeared in a lot of konami games rather than his own. I think you'll have fun with this one! Sorry if it was already done.
Great channel!
I played Rocket Knight Adventures as a kid, great game, I wish it got ported. It’s super expensive to purchase now
LMFAO, How is that offensive?! If they featured my country in the game I would be honored, as long as it was at least slightly accurate.
Nobody:
Europeans:
Bavaria ≠ All of Germany
Tetris also had Mario if you bet the hardest setting on 'Game Type B, Level 9, and High 5'. You actually see a few Nintendo characters and a Space Shuttle taking off. lol
Does Sonic have many cameos on the Genesis?
That Luigi from Tetris! Hahahah looks more like Alf.
In Links Awakening there are two NPC's that look like Mario and Luigi.
laughed so much at the luigi part... i cant look away lol
I find it hard to complain about Mario being dressed in stereotypical clothing of different places considering the character itself is a horrible Italian stereotype.
One thing that would be interesting to hear about is more about how the Origin titles are interconnected, and considering how influential Origin were back in the days, I think it would be nice for people who are not as familiar with the company & its work to hear a bit more about it (Fun fact: Ultima was one of the main influences on early JRPGs, while not as influential as Wizardry, the developers of Dragon Warrior/Quest & Final Fantasy were still heavily influenced by Ultima, so that should help convince the people who grew up with consoles of Origins importance ;) But that's obviously not the only important thing they did). The ones I know of are the Kilrathi fighter in Ultima 7, the Kilrathi in Ultima Underworld, the "Tie fighters" in Ultima 1 (which were retconed into ships from the Wing Commander series), the beds from Bioforge being used in the Crusader series and the system for writing dates being the same in the Crusader series & System Shock. While officially these games are not in the same universe, Origin still liked to make cameos. Also related would be Ultima & Dungeon Keeper, made by Bullfrog (watch the intro to Dungeon Keeper and compare it to Ultima 8, also the last level in Dungeon Keeper shows the same important character).
Mario's Pie Crust
0:45
It's funny because he discusses how Qix is pronounced but butchers Picross
3:40 Ah, so that’s where Mario’s Tostarenan outfit from Odyssey originated from. Interesting... 😆
"Come on nintendo you're better then this" They're japan in an era that wasn't overrun by PC culture.
Tennis on GB was so good! It was the first GB game i ever got. My grandma gave it to me on christmas eve. I got my GB on christmas day. My parents were pissed because she ruined the surprise! I obviously knew what santa was gonna bring me!
I don't think Nintendo was being racist at all, in the slightest. To me, it's Mario's African cousin, Asian cousin, etc. Or even just Asian version of Mario, African version of Mario, etc.
Not Mario in blackface or pulling his eyes into a slant while wearing buck teeth. You know, ACTUAL racism.
I always used to love playing the F1 game, it was my second game ever, first being Choplifter II. I always wondered if that guy was mario, and yes, it is!
"come on, Nintendo, you're better than this"
see: Punch Out
And the black guy is the strongest
Wheatley, the prick Vodka Drunkensky!
Hey, Gaming Historian. If you don't read this no big.
I really like your show a lot. Your humour is super subtle and not to shoved in your face.
Why I personally enjoy watching you over say, spacehamster is because the gaming and appreciation for the medium comes first. Not you constantly mugging to the screen every two minutes or shoving special effects down our throats. For me, those shows run out of steam because being "Funny" on camera is hard to do. One is bound to start re-using the same jokes over and over. You keep the focous on the video games and not you trying to be overly cute.
Thank you so much for this show and the dedication you obviously show.
Pic-ross. Not pie-cross. As in picture cross.
lol, I was going to say this too
Yeah, that's pretty bad
Man. Imagine trying to collect every Mario universe/cameo game. That would cost some serious bank.
The Gameboy is not a console, it's a handheld. That's like calling a Carrot, a Green Bean.
Its a handheld console.
Awesome idea! I played about half of these games but I did not remember Mario's appearances. Of course, not even realized them sometimes.
No one is offended but you. I'm speaking as a chinese-american.
Eric - it was kind of lame. He didn't claim he was offended, just uncomfortable
But why would that make him uncomfortable? Mario is a stereotypical white guy Italian plumber. So we can only be stereotypical about white people or western countries? This goes to the whole Simpson's and Apu contoversey where a show built around stereotypes offends a minority group with its stereotypes
Great list, proud to say I knew most of them.
Btw, there's also Tarin in Link's Awakening. Whilst he isn't Mario per se, he does look a lot like him, loves mushrooms, and turns into a raccoon.
guyssssssssss, it's literally CURRENT YEAR
HOLY SHIT CURRENT YEAR IS MY FAVORITE YEAR!
Love the fact that u have Castlevania Bloodlines (Sega) on the first page of that book in the intro. Im late but i stumbled upon & subbed to ur channel a few days ago. imma 33yr old guy that grew up on these games, and love history as well...so gaming history is awesome & Refreshing.👍
"Come on Nintendo, you're better than this." You go, girl. Sometimes you just have to put your highheel down!
lol
Glad to see the Gaming Historian back. I thought he had disappeared.
I feel bad for kids these days. They'll never know how cool arcades or gameboys where. All they know are stupid touch screens and minecraft.
Game Boys still exist, dude.
What's wrong with that? Each generation has their own games. Stop bitching.
RazorBeamz I still have mine; it's a Color, though.
MrGageHarrison What's wrong with that? Freemium games. There, that's your answer.
U.S. kids that is. Because in other countries arcades are still very popular, mostly japan.
Maybe Banjo and/or Kazooie? It's not a big secret, but his first and latest appearances were in another franchise's racing game. (Diddy Kong Racing, and Sonic & Sega All Stars Racing).
>tfw people in the comments section can't take a joke
Stock Fedora Guy What joke?
Matthew Johnson
Norm's remark at around 3:46.
Awesome vid! I've always enjoyed this channel and the content!
4:00 It's offensive now but back then, people only had really stereotypical views of other countries; this was before the Internet and affordable plane tickets.
This video is at top of my recommendations for like a week
Chef Mario for SSB43DSWIIU DLC.
He’s the calmest video game nerd
When you criticize Nintendo for the "stereotypes" you have to remember this was thirty years ago and it was Japan. Everyone wasn't butthurt for simply representing what people look like from a region yet. You are applying today's PC to thirty years ago in a foreign country. That is your fault.
Not including the Donkey Kong games because it is ''too obvious'', but including the Game & Watch series... makes sense.
better than this ah mario is the biggest racist stereotype in video game history
Hello! If it's not too much trouble to ask, could you do a "Mario's Secret Games" on the actual Game and Watch series? You know: Mario's Cement Factory, ect...
I frankly don't believe it made you feel uncomfortable.
*"But Hey That's what I'm here for" that makes me happy.*
I love how people get absurdly offended at people getting mildly offended at stuff. It's always fun seeing all of the same people going on insane tirades about the SJW's and the evil liberals who censor every thing while getting totally real and not botted/manipulated thumbs ups. I really love it when the annoying freshmen at school do it but in real life then start unironically dabbing and repeating memes from 2015 as if they are somehow funny.
I also like getting 5 hours of sleep a night it's really fun
TH-cam commenters are the annoying kids at school but under every video you want to watch
Also good video
Alleyway is clearly an Arkanoid clone rather than directly a breakout clone, in Arkanoid the paddle is also a spaceship.