I’ve studied and reverse engineered Daft Punk’s Homework era tracks with the mentorship of some of their peers (Alan Braxe/Zdar/Paul Play) and Daft Punk and their peers (whom were mentored by Bangalter) never used the sidechain feature. The pumping itself came from having the kick be the loudest thing in the mix. The kick should be hitting at around or exactly at nominal level for the 3630. Everything else is mixed around that. I also work within Ableton and don’t mix using the peak-transient information but rather the RMS meters. Usually multiples of 6 work well for setting up the levels. For example, having the kick be -18dBFS and the bass being anywhere around -24dBFS or -30dBFS still keeps the bass content there but also works along side the pumping effect. Furthermore, part of their sound was that they would also put their entire song through a Roland S-760 (which is famous for the sound of its converters) and then cut it up to do final edits/filters. :)
Hello. Completely true! Also heard the s760 trick from people working with them. You must be very closed to those guys. Would love to talk with you! 😉😉 PM me!
This is exactly right. You don't use the actual side chain circuit, you just slam the compressor hard with a loud kick and it starts pumping on its own from hammering it. Play with the settings enough and the buttons you'll figure it out.
this was the compressor of underground rap from 92-96, it may not be good for cleaner types of music but for that old new york rap from the golden age it brings it together on the master buss like nothing else.
This video is pure gold for me. I own a 3630 by myself, but I was always struggling with the correct configuration😍 Many thx😍 Peace, Love and Unity❤️❤️
The pumping effects of the 3630 are, while not easily noticeable to the average listener, vastly superior to the software versions. The Glue Compressor is close, but too clean in comparison. The 3630 almost has an EQ'ing effect where the highs roll off as the signal ducks, whereas the plugins keep the same frequency signal but add the pumping. Thank you for the detailed experiment- I'm going to start using my 3630 more now in my songs!
I heard their sound also came from putting whole track in to roland S-760 rack sampler and put it thru. It was not just alesis 3630 or mackie 1604 or roland S-760. It was all that stuff and who knows what else combined
just bought two of these off reverb for a great deal, might try modding them to beef up the power supply and op amps, then use them for serial parallel compression duty cause they sound great for electronic music parallel processing
You don't use the side chain inputs of the3630 !!! To make it work like those guys, just make your kick louder and with more low end than the other tracks of your song, and you will have automatically this Daft punk sound !!
Awesome video! How do you patchbay to make the sidechain function? and what kind of equiptment do you use to connect the alesis 3630 with it to make it work?
So many times you're right on the proper settings for the drums but then you move away 😂 Be fearless bro, you're supposed to go in weird direction then crank up the gain just for fun.
I really like how you used it on that pad. I hadnt thought about that before. im still still not sure whether to get this or the mdx2100 though as im not a house or dance guy, and havent gotten to see it in action for hiphop style production.
For sure I can think of using the 3630 for hip hop samples. Just think about squashing/side chaining some funk samples and how it adds rhythm to them. The mdx2100 I have to check 😎
There isn't any keyed sidechain compression in French House e.g Daft Punk, Alan Braxe, Motorbass, Fred Falke, or Ed Banger stuff Mr Oizo, Justice, SebastiAn. This myth never seems to die🤔not only did they not use it, but it's pretty clear from listening to any of those examples i cited above that the ducking is not caused by the compression operating from a different key trigger e.g kickdrum...
But didn’t daft punk just use physical form machines with no software meaning a computerized daw and just made beats based off what they hear? Im not sure they went to technical on how precise their kicks or whatever sound they were making. Did they have like a physical eq that they can see on the machines they used?
If using for side chaining I’m guessing that the compressor is tied up with that function (ie being used as an effect) I’m guessing that for compression on a finial mix you would need another compressor?
Like any other compressor, the 3630 has inputs and outputs and an extra input for the side chain trigger. Hence, you insert it as an insert-effect into your chain. You can do this on any track or your final mix.
@@MarcRenton Thanks, what I mean is that if your using it as an effect then you can’t also use it as a processor to balance the mix at the same time, it would require a second device as the settings are set to make it pump rather that to balance the mix. In ableton I would have a side chain compressor after the group compressor, the group compressor balancing out the dynamics and the side chain ducking the group to the kick
I think particularly this thought is in question. Because their tunes sound more like having the BD on the master but louder than usual, to trigger the compressor but not the side chaining
@@MarcRenton the only thing i can think of is vocals e.g. on "one more time" because you can hear the ducking even when the drums drop out. i apologize for how snarky my comment was, but its a huge misconception that daft punk and their contemporaries used sidechaining. the 3630 is just a really unsubtle compressor and boosting the bass is more than enough to make french house tracks pump, which is what they did
otro don nadie que no explica nada porque no lo sabe, solo prueba y saca sus propias conclusiones pero de ninguna manera este video es lo que su clipbait reclamani es una guia, ni huele nada de lo que ha hecho a daft punk. ni su musica es french touch. que perdida de tiempo . malditos youtubers ricos sin talento pero con mucho tiempo libre....
I’ve studied and reverse engineered Daft Punk’s Homework era tracks with the mentorship of some of their peers (Alan Braxe/Zdar/Paul Play) and Daft Punk and their peers (whom were mentored by Bangalter) never used the sidechain feature. The pumping itself came from having the kick be the loudest thing in the mix. The kick should be hitting at around or exactly at nominal level for the 3630. Everything else is mixed around that. I also work within Ableton and don’t mix using the peak-transient information but rather the RMS meters. Usually multiples of 6 work well for setting up the levels. For example, having the kick be -18dBFS and the bass being anywhere around -24dBFS or -30dBFS still keeps the bass content there but also works along side the pumping effect. Furthermore, part of their sound was that they would also put their entire song through a Roland S-760 (which is famous for the sound of its converters) and then cut it up to do final edits/filters. :)
Hello. Completely true!
Also heard the s760 trick from people working with them. You must be very closed to those guys. Would love to talk with you! 😉😉 PM me!
I, too would love a chat. That's amazing, been a daft punk fan for years!
This is exactly right. You don't use the actual side chain circuit, you just slam the compressor hard with a loud kick and it starts pumping on its own from hammering it. Play with the settings enough and the buttons you'll figure it out.
Can confirm, learned this from somebody how worked with DP back in the day.
Wow, any advice on how to do the s760 trick when your sampler only has 2Mb of ram?
this was the compressor of underground rap from 92-96, it may not be good for cleaner types of music but for that old new york rap from the golden age it brings it together on the master buss like nothing else.
This video is pure gold for me. I own a 3630 by myself, but I was always struggling with the correct configuration😍 Many thx😍 Peace, Love and Unity❤️❤️
The editing of this video is hilarious. The editing of this video is hilarious.
schizophrenia. schizophrenia.
I love the daft punk glitch at the beginning.. I even looked down the stairs in my building to see if the agents were coming
The pumping effects of the 3630 are, while not easily noticeable to the average listener, vastly superior to the software versions. The Glue Compressor is close, but too clean in comparison. The 3630 almost has an EQ'ing effect where the highs roll off as the signal ducks, whereas the plugins keep the same frequency signal but add the pumping.
Thank you for the detailed experiment- I'm going to start using my 3630 more now in my songs!
I really like all that kinds of sounds made with TR-909 and 3630 compressor they remind me the "One Time For Your Mind" song ft. Technology!!
I heard their sound also came from putting whole track in to roland S-760 rack sampler and put it thru. It was not just alesis 3630 or mackie 1604 or roland S-760. It was all that stuff and who knows what else combined
just bought two of these off reverb for a great deal, might try modding them to beef up the power supply and op amps, then use them for serial parallel compression duty cause they sound great for electronic music parallel processing
Useful junk! I appreciate it more now than in the 1990s when it was the only compressor I could afford.
you got the REV D, best one. there is a diy upgrade package, on the internet
You don't use the side chain inputs of the3630 !!! To make it work like those guys, just make your kick louder and with more low end than the other tracks of your song, and you will have automatically this Daft punk sound !!
I liked this , thank you
Awesome video! How do you patchbay
to make the sidechain function? and what kind of equiptment do you use to connect the alesis 3630 with it to make it work?
So many times you're right on the proper settings for the drums but then you move away 😂 Be fearless bro, you're supposed to go in weird direction then crank up the gain just for fun.
Is the 3632 just as good or is the 3630 legitimately better?
I really like how you used it on that pad. I hadnt thought about that before. im still still not sure whether to get this or the mdx2100 though as im not a house or dance guy, and havent gotten to see it in action for hiphop style production.
For sure I can think of using the 3630 for hip hop samples. Just think about squashing/side chaining some funk samples and how it adds rhythm to them. The mdx2100 I have to check 😎
Danke, war super hilfreich, dein Video! Du bist ein Münchner? Servus aus Burghausen 😊
somebody knows how it compares with the Drawer 1978 sidechain compressor?
There isn't any keyed sidechain compression in French House e.g Daft Punk, Alan Braxe, Motorbass, Fred Falke, or Ed Banger stuff Mr Oizo, Justice, SebastiAn. This myth never seems to die🤔not only did they not use it, but it's pretty clear from listening to any of those examples i cited above that the ducking is not caused by the compression operating from a different key trigger e.g kickdrum...
But didn’t daft punk just use physical form machines with no software meaning a computerized daw and just made beats based off what they hear? Im not sure they went to technical on how precise their kicks or whatever sound they were making. Did they have like a physical eq that they can see on the machines they used?
Possible, but IMHO they also were early adopters of Ableton Live back then.
Excellent!! Hey, can I ask what stand you are using to get your RD-8 standing up like that?
It is a laptop stand from Thomann that I modified with my own 3d printed parts. Basically I redesigned the same parts, just with a different angle 😊
@@MarcRenton Very nice! :)
If using for side chaining I’m guessing that the compressor is tied up with that function (ie being used as an effect) I’m guessing that for compression on a finial mix you would need another compressor?
Like any other compressor, the 3630 has inputs and outputs and an extra input for the side chain trigger. Hence, you insert it as an insert-effect into your chain. You can do this on any track or your final mix.
@@MarcRenton Thanks, what I mean is that if your using it as an effect then you can’t also use it as a processor to balance the mix at the same time, it would require a second device as the settings are set to make it pump rather that to balance the mix. In ableton I would have a side chain compressor after the group compressor, the group compressor balancing out the dynamics and the side chain ducking the group to the kick
@@omenjh yes indeed you need two compressors
sounds like 4am.GrooveAgent
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nobody uses the 3630 for sidechaining lol
Daft punk
I think particularly this thought is in question. Because their tunes sound more like having the BD on the master but louder than usual, to trigger the compressor but not the side chaining
@@brandonsavard9657 nope
@@MarcRenton the only thing i can think of is vocals e.g. on "one more time" because you can hear the ducking even when the drums drop out. i apologize for how snarky my comment was, but its a huge misconception that daft punk and their contemporaries used sidechaining. the 3630 is just a really unsubtle compressor and boosting the bass is more than enough to make french house tracks pump, which is what they did
otro don nadie que no explica nada porque no lo sabe, solo prueba y saca sus propias conclusiones pero de ninguna manera este video es lo que su clipbait reclamani es una guia, ni huele nada de lo que ha hecho a daft punk. ni su musica es french touch. que perdida de tiempo . malditos youtubers ricos sin talento pero con mucho tiempo libre....
Starting to believe it’s a useless piece of junk.
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