Wow, great video! I am putting in a new screen now and want to implement something like this. My only major difference is I need the masking to be acoustically transparent, while still being light absorbing, so I can't use that same material.
Extremely clever. With my setup, I am looking to use in-wall Klipsch speakers behind a 180" 2.39:1 screen. If I did this... I wonder if I could use acoustic transparent black mesh so the sound would still come though. Hopefully there's a sweet spot where the wooden rails wouldn't be in front of the L/R speakers.
Fantastic idea! Wonder if I can make one to crop the top and bottom for a 2:35 .. would need a motor to lift the bottom, and another one to drop the top down. Gravity won't help me here!
Bravo! I was searching for something like it as a DIY. I don’t think I can do this because I just realized I have two box columns to the left and right of my ceiling. The track would have to run under those columns which would be impossible
That looks great! Right not it's not the highest priority because my theater is still a long way from being operational but ultimately I do want to put in a masking system. My screen is 2.4:1, 185" and it would be nice to have the ability to mask all the way down to 4:3 since that should be the absolute minimum that would ever be needed. I'm not sure I want to do the rigid panel approach, I'm thinking along the lines of a single vertical bar that drags along a fabric curtain behind it. The speakers are behind the screen so I wouldn't want the frame of the panels obstructing them. I already have a little obstruction because the array main speakers are quite a bit taller than the height of the screen so the screen frame does obstruct just a bit but only closer to the ends where the arrays are shaded anyway. Great job on your system, thanks for posting all the details!
If you have enough width to accommodate the retracted materials, yes. Alternatively, Zemismart also sells 90 degree end adapters so you could also gain more outer range by turning the corners.
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I was looking for something like this. Excellent job. Brilliant. The only thing missing from my setup is a masking system and a curtain. Unfortunately I don't have enough space to the sides of my screen to store excess in both cases. But really enjoyed this. Thanks
Nice video. Subscribed! Which projector do u have that projects 2:35:1 ?? Also wondering how to do a similar project if i have a 16:9 screen, where i want bars to appear from top and bottom for cinemascope movies (2.35:1 movies)
This is great!. I'm not familiar with Alexa (yet). How does it know the 64% command? . Also will a black curtain do the same as the velour? Nice video. Thank you for doing it.
Dang there is no room to the left and right of my screen to do this. It's such a fabulous idea. I need something that would have to go from top to bottom
Not using a lens. Using the projector zoom/mask even if that means pixel loss. A lens is expensive and fiddly. If money is no object, get a high-end anamorphic lens. But honestly, my image is amazing so the increased resolution would be fairly negligible.
Thank you! That's a great question. I bought blackout cellular shades from Home Depot that come with a side and bottom channel system to mask the edges. It's a great system and I can make the room 100% dark even in the sunniest conditions during the day. If it weren't for a small LED on my wall switch, I would not even be able to navigate the room in the dark. An upcoming project will be to automate (motorize) those shades.
I've been looking at smart curtain rods and some are adjustable. Is this brand adjustable cuz when I went to their site it only showed 4 M and 5 m but nothing in between or variable sizes
I also got another question: Do you belive I could use that system for covering and uncovering the whole projectionscreen? I hope it'll work because of the weight of the curtain. Greetings from Germany
Amazingly simple and clean! I will be giving this a shot. Thank you for sharing, sir. BTW, that is an amazing home theater you have there. I read on the comments you have a 2.35, 150" screen. May I ask what projector do you use to light up that massive screen?
you are a genius. i am in opposite situation to you in that I need a masking solution for the black bars at the top of my screen. do you have any solutions in mind? Thank you if you do..
Thank you! This project does not adapt well to your situation. However, there are many TH-cam videos of project builders who have made masking systems for CIW screens like you. Have a good search!
Great video and setup. You’ve convinced me to do the same for my CIH as I love the look of the final result. I just went to purchase the motor through your links but I’m a bit confused which one to go with and the differences between the 3. Is there one you would recommend over the others? Thanks.
They’re all the same except for how they interface to your home automation. I picked the zwave version that interfaces nicely with SmartThings. If you don’t have SmartThings, you can pick one of the two others that works best for you. Thanks for your support!
Did you make your valance so that it would cover the top frame of your screen or is it higher/above the top frame? (or maybe half of the top frame?) Also, how big (drop) did you make your valance? 10 inches? Just trying to work out how big it needs to be to hide all the tracking when seated etc. Thanks in advance.
How differently would you have to make this if you wanted to also be capable of 4:3 masking? Would you just need wider wooden rectangles and more space on the sides of the screen?
That’s exactly right! Alternatively, there are 90 degree angles available for the Zemismart curtain tracks, it would be feasible to have the panels turn the corners too. As long as their were only two connection points at the top of the panels instead of the 4 that I did. This project can be adapted in many different ways.
Very cool. For more polish you could set up an Alexa routine with a custom phrase as trigger and then have your curtains go to the desired percentage. For example, you enter a trigger of WHEN/ADD AN EVENT+/VOICE: "Set masking to sixteen by nine" ALEXA WILL/ADD AN ACTION+/CUSTOM "Set Mask to 64%"
@@Mixturerich Sorry, I should have been more clear. How come you didn't just use curtains (fabric) is what I meant. My thinking is wouldn't it be lighter in weight and less wear and tear on the motorized track system.
Thanks for clarifying :-). That is definitely something I considered. So reasoning for panels rather than curtains was the crispness of the vertical edge. I wanted this to truly mask the image and be as close to the screen as possible. A curtain cannot achieve that. As for weight and wear, great question. Believe it or not, these panels (being skeleton with fabric wrapped over) are lighter than the total weight of 15 feet of pleated velvet curtains. The motor does not struggle at all and the nylon rollers are moving through solid aluminium channel. Friction is low no chance of breaking the rails by the weight either.
Do you mean what size curtain track? That will depend on the width of your room, leaving enough distance for your masking panels to retract off the screen. For example, my 150 inch screen is approximate 12 feet wide. I have a 15’3” foot wide room. It was just enough width for me to accommodate my masking panels so I ordered the curtain kit that is just wider than that and cut the track to fit 15’3”. Hope this helps!
One huge problem with 2.35 aspect ratio is that you can't watch imax content because of the constant aspect ratio changes through the whole movie. And there are a couple of standout movies that use this back and forth aspect ratio. Not only the projector can't deal with back and forth lens memory on the fly by itself in anticipation of the format changes but this type of masking would not work for that purpose. But this is extremely awesome and reminds me of how the theaters I used to attend had the curtains do this exact thing! Extremely awesome!!
@@Mixturerich I absolutely love the work you did and would love to do the same but I am worried that other movies are still going to do the imax way. Just look at the reference quality of Aquaman and the back and forth imax image, this has kept me from getting a projector with lens memory and a 2.35 aspect screen. Keep up the awesome work sir! 😎👍👏
The best way to deal with these instances is to just crop them to scope. This was how they were exhibited in standard theaters, and IMAX really requires a ridiculous viewing angle to make sense. It's otherwise just superfluous picture information that can be safely discarded. Shifting ratio films were framed with this in mind, so cropping is totally OK.
That’s a personal choice for me as this room also serves as a Vinyl listening room for me as well. I prefer the aesthetic of the rich wood tones. When the cinema goes dark, my speakers disappear. I do not see them. One might argue that speakers behind the screen are better. It’s all a matter of choice but I am biased towards musicality.
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May God Bless you. You have saved me heaps of money.
Complicated, but exactly what I was looking for. Well done!
You deserve more views and everything. You rock!
Thank you!
just finished doing something very similar with my room, thanks for the inspo and well done on the video and masking!
Thank you!
Fantastic narration and technical navigation. Super cool setup.
Look forward to your next video!
Thank you very much!
This is genius!! Thank you!!
Thank you!
Wow, great video! I am putting in a new screen now and want to implement something like this. My only major difference is I need the masking to be acoustically transparent, while still being light absorbing, so I can't use that same material.
Looks great, maybe a full tour of the room and walk through of the gear you use 🤙🤙
soo cool! awesome job!
Thank you! Cheers!
I’ll be following this step by step next month!:)
Glad to hear it :-)
Extremely clever. With my setup, I am looking to use in-wall Klipsch speakers behind a 180" 2.39:1 screen. If I did this... I wonder if I could use acoustic transparent black mesh so the sound would still come though. Hopefully there's a sweet spot where the wooden rails wouldn't be in front of the L/R speakers.
Fantastic idea! Wonder if I can make one to crop the top and bottom for a 2:35 .. would need a motor to lift the bottom, and another one to drop the top down. Gravity won't help me here!
That's what I want too..did you ever find a solution?
Nice set up👌. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Truly nice job enjoyed watching your video
Thank you
Fantastic idea and very well executed. Looks great too.
Thank you!
Bravo! I was searching for something like it as a DIY. I don’t think I can do this because I just realized I have two box columns to the left and right of my ceiling. The track would have to run under those columns which would be impossible
MinHeadroom from avsforum here, awesome video
Thank you!
That looks great! Right not it's not the highest priority because my theater is still a long way from being operational but ultimately I do want to put in a masking system. My screen is 2.4:1, 185" and it would be nice to have the ability to mask all the way down to 4:3 since that should be the absolute minimum that would ever be needed.
I'm not sure I want to do the rigid panel approach, I'm thinking along the lines of a single vertical bar that drags along a fabric curtain behind it. The speakers are behind the screen so I wouldn't want the frame of the panels obstructing them. I already have a little obstruction because the array main speakers are quite a bit taller than the height of the screen so the screen frame does obstruct just a bit but only closer to the ends where the arrays are shaded anyway.
Great job on your system, thanks for posting all the details!
Thank you and good luck on your future project!!! My system continues to be flaw free with the rail system.
I fucking love this dude. You did what my dreams are made of
Thanks!
Hi, thank you for sharing this. Can the Zenismart be attached to the wall? I have a door on the wall I want to put my screen on.
Yes, you wall mount the track.
Could you add the curtains to the end of the track so that the panels & curtain move to cover the whole screen while not in use?
If you have enough width to accommodate the retracted materials, yes. Alternatively, Zemismart also sells 90 degree end adapters so you could also gain more outer range by turning the corners.
Very nice setup!
Thanks!
Great idea. I've been using this same setup for many years for my scope screen, but non motorized. Just simple curtain rods and black curtains.
I Have You Beat With My Own Home Theater 🎭 Side &Top Boarders Along With What I Call The Smart Stage Technology Or SST For Short. Most ☝🏽 People As Your self All Have The Same Exact Set Up. However With SST The Stage Settings Are Endless. Only Limited To Your Own Creativity. With The Simple Push Of A Button On A Remote control Sit Back And Watch The Entire Stage Set It’s Self Up For Dozens Of Different Scenes and Modes All With Different Music 🎶 To Accompany The Various Different Scenes Such As MOVIE 🎥 Mode, Karaoke 🎤 Mode! Webinar Mode, Ect . All Designed By Myself Wanders Home Theater Company.
I was looking for something like this. Excellent job. Brilliant. The only thing missing from my setup is a masking system and a curtain. Unfortunately I don't have enough space to the sides of my screen to store excess in both cases. But really enjoyed this. Thanks
Thank you so much
Nice video. Subscribed! Which projector do u have that projects 2:35:1 ?? Also wondering how to do a similar project if i have a 16:9 screen, where i want bars to appear from top and bottom for cinemascope movies (2.35:1 movies)
This is great!. I'm not familiar with Alexa (yet). How does it know the 64% command? . Also will a black curtain do the same as the velour? Nice video. Thank you for doing it.
awesome video. thank you for sharing
what is the size of your room?
15’3” x 19’
Great video. Thanks!
Dang there is no room to the left and right of my screen to do this. It's such a fabulous idea. I need something that would have to go from top to bottom
Excellent video! Just found by searching TH-cam. Are you using a lens to get CIH or is that the projector setting? How are you achieving CIH?
Not using a lens. Using the projector zoom/mask even if that means pixel loss. A lens is expensive and fiddly. If money is no object, get a high-end anamorphic lens. But honestly, my image is amazing so the increased resolution would be fairly negligible.
Wow, looks great!
Thank you! Cheers!
stunning !
Thank you!
Awesome job.
Thanks!
Cool project. Did you DIY the screen too?
Thanks and no. That’s an Elunevision screen.
Hi very nice solution there very effective.. but I am wondering in order to achieve CIH one would need a Anamorphic lens? or how did you achieve CIH?
Projector zoom only. No anamorphic lens in my case.
@@Mixturerich OK so do I need to adjust the lens when adjusting the screen? or when zoomed in it keeps CIH? thank you for the response.
When zoomed back in it keeps CIH
@@Mixturerich ahh I see thank you so much. I guess I owe you one for the idea.. ;)
Thanks for the guide but how bout for 16:9? How to mask top and bottom?
It's a scope screen - so need need for top and bottom masking
Nice, and thanks for sharing 👍
BTW can you please tell how did you completely light block out the big window adjacent to screen.
Thanks
Thank you! That's a great question. I bought blackout cellular shades from Home Depot that come with a side and bottom channel system to mask the edges. It's a great system and I can make the room 100% dark even in the sunniest conditions during the day. If it weren't for a small LED on my wall switch, I would not even be able to navigate the room in the dark. An upcoming project will be to automate (motorize) those shades.
You got link for that ?
I've been looking at smart curtain rods and some are adjustable. Is this brand adjustable cuz when I went to their site it only showed 4 M and 5 m but nothing in between or variable sizes
You cut the tracks to length
You are awesome!
I need one for a wall to wall 150in 16/9 AT screen
Good job :)
Thank you! Cheers!
you have 3 track system listed did you buy all 3
I bought the zwave version for my setup.
@@Mixturerich the "zwave" version is the one linked in the middel of those 3, isn´t it?
@@Kappi1234 no, I believe it’s the third link as described.
@@Mixturerich I see.Thank you. I´ll order one of those and try it out myself by building a home theater in my basement.
I also got another question: Do you belive I could use that system for covering and uncovering the whole projectionscreen? I hope it'll work because of the weight of the curtain. Greetings from Germany
Great video, thank you for sharing 👌
Glad you enjoyed it
Amazingly simple and clean! I will be giving this a shot. Thank you for sharing, sir. BTW, that is an amazing home theater you have there. I read on the comments you have a 2.35, 150" screen. May I ask what projector do you use to light up that massive screen?
Thank you! I have a JVC DLA-X790. Amazing projector.
you are a genius. i am in opposite situation to you in that I need a masking solution for the black bars at the top of my screen. do you have any solutions in mind? Thank you if you do..
Thank you! This project does not adapt well to your situation. However, there are many TH-cam videos of project builders who have made masking systems for CIW screens like you. Have a good search!
Great video and setup. You’ve convinced me to do the same for my CIH as I love the look of the final result.
I just went to purchase the motor through your links but I’m a bit confused which one to go with and the differences between the 3. Is there one you would recommend over the others?
Thanks.
They’re all the same except for how they interface to your home automation. I picked the zwave version that interfaces nicely with SmartThings. If you don’t have SmartThings, you can pick one of the two others that works best for you. Thanks for your support!
Did you make your valance so that it would cover the top frame of your screen or is it higher/above the top frame? (or maybe half of the top frame?)
Also, how big (drop) did you make your valance? 10 inches? Just trying to work out how big it needs to be to hide all the tracking when seated etc.
Thanks in advance.
It comes down to about half way into the frame of the screen. In my case approx 10 inches.
nice video~bro
Thanks 😁
How differently would you have to make this if you wanted to also be capable of 4:3 masking? Would you just need wider wooden rectangles and more space on the sides of the screen?
That’s exactly right! Alternatively, there are 90 degree angles available for the Zemismart curtain tracks, it would be feasible to have the panels turn the corners too. As long as their were only two connection points at the top of the panels instead of the 4 that I did. This project can be adapted in many different ways.
Very cool. For more polish you could set up an Alexa routine with a custom phrase as trigger and then have your curtains go to the desired percentage. For example, you enter a trigger of WHEN/ADD AN EVENT+/VOICE: "Set masking to sixteen by nine"
ALEXA WILL/ADD AN ACTION+/CUSTOM "Set Mask to 64%"
Yup. Set it up like that very early on.
Dude, you need to stop saying "alexa". Made my echos go nuts! 😂
Why did you choose lumber and felt instead of fabric?
Not sure I understand the question
@@Mixturerich Sorry, I should have been more clear. How come you didn't just use curtains (fabric) is what I meant. My thinking is wouldn't it be lighter in weight and less wear and tear on the motorized track system.
Thanks for clarifying :-). That is definitely something I considered. So reasoning for panels rather than curtains was the crispness of the vertical edge. I wanted this to truly mask the image and be as close to the screen as possible. A curtain cannot achieve that. As for weight and wear, great question. Believe it or not, these panels (being skeleton with fabric wrapped over) are lighter than the total weight of 15 feet of pleated velvet curtains. The motor does not struggle at all and the nylon rollers are moving through solid aluminium channel. Friction is low no chance of breaking the rails by the weight either.
so i have a 135 inch screen what size should i get
Do you mean what size curtain track? That will depend on the width of your room, leaving enough distance for your masking panels to retract off the screen. For example, my 150 inch screen is approximate 12 feet wide. I have a 15’3” foot wide room. It was just enough width for me to accommodate my masking panels so I ordered the curtain kit that is just wider than that and cut the track to fit 15’3”. Hope this helps!
@@Mixturerich thanks
one more question cant tell from the video but is that a 2.39:1 screen
@@monsta21cb 2.35:1 screen
@@Mixturerich ok thanks
One huge problem with 2.35 aspect ratio is that you can't watch imax content because of the constant aspect ratio changes through the whole movie. And there are a couple of standout movies that use this back and forth aspect ratio. Not only the projector can't deal with back and forth lens memory on the fly by itself in anticipation of the format changes but this type of masking would not work for that purpose.
But this is extremely awesome and reminds me of how the theaters I used to attend had the curtains do this exact thing! Extremely awesome!!
Appreciate the comments!
And, Tenet was an example of the IMAX issue…. Sad.
@@Mixturerich I absolutely love the work you did and would love to do the same but I am worried that other movies are still going to do the imax way. Just look at the reference quality of Aquaman and the back and forth imax image, this has kept me from getting a projector with lens memory and a 2.35 aspect screen. Keep up the awesome work sir! 😎👍👏
The best way to deal with these instances is to just crop them to scope. This was how they were exhibited in standard theaters, and IMAX really requires a ridiculous viewing angle to make sense. It's otherwise just superfluous picture information that can be safely discarded. Shifting ratio films were framed with this in mind, so cropping is totally OK.
Hi there, I have a 16:9 screen. How would I mask the top and bottom. Especially the bottom?
Search TH-cam. There are many solutions.
@@Mixturerich I did but found just one video and his solution is a bit odd and not feasible.
Search for constant image width masking system. My system cannot be adapted to your situation.
@@Mixturerich Thanks will do.
Oh 😥
Great video,but you would be better off if the speakers by the screen were black not wood toned.
That’s a personal choice for me as this room also serves as a Vinyl listening room for me as well. I prefer the aesthetic of the rich wood tones. When the cinema goes dark, my speakers disappear. I do not see them. One might argue that speakers behind the screen are better. It’s all a matter of choice but I am biased towards musicality.
Mask or no mask it doesn't bother me to watch a movie like that
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After getting a 16:9 tv I thought I would never get that nasty ugly black bar. They need to STOP this ugly black bar in my beautiful 16:9 4k TV.