Projector Screen Color Comparison | Carl's Place DIY Home Theater Projector Screens
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video, I go over the three "Flexi" materials that Carl's Place has to offer for DIY projector screens. The FlexiWhite, FlexiGray, and Ambient Light Rejecting (ALR) screen materials are tested in different lighting conditions and angles to help you decide which color is right for you home theater.
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simple and amazingly detailed, this is the video what people exactly wanted, i wasted so much time on other videos
Glad it helped!
Don't know how I missed this video all these years, one of the best screen comparisons ever.
Thank you very much from Germany!
This video is so valuable! The first time the screen types, lighting conditions and resulting quality were presented in a understandable way.
Fantastic, first class, intelligent, valuable, useful!
Thank you so much! I had always wondered why projectors come with white screens when they only have the ability to brighten what they display on. I wanted to go with black or a shade of grey, so I really appreciate you testing out different colours to see the benefits of each, at least in your room. Perhaps a perfectly colour netrual grey that matches the brightness of the middle will be the sweet spot.
Thank you for this it's an insane amount of work, i currently have a white wall without imperfections and I wanted an alr screen but now that i saw your test it just looked like my plasma tv and it's not the kind of image i want for my projector. Thank you you made me save a lot of money :)
I live in the UK and have found it so very difficult to find a company that produces and sells ALR screen material. The closest company I could find was in Germany to which I ALMOST made an order. I am very glad I didn't as I came across your excellent video with a link to Carl's Place where I found the same material measurements for HALF the price of the German company. Including International shipping to the UK and the added 20% tax that UK customs will apply to the order, I am still making a saving of £70! ($86).
In short I am saying thank you!
Awesome! Glad it helped you out Michael, thats the main goal when making these types of videos. Enjoy your setup! And the extra cash lol!
Hey Michael any updates on how you got on with the screen? I'm from Ireland and am also finding pretty hard to get a good screen. I just purchased the Elitescreen 5d from Amazon.de but am having buyers tension already and I haven't got the screen yet. I can always sent it back so I'm not too worried. PJ is a Epson 9400 good ambient light control but ceilings are white as well as other surfaces. Thanks
Wow, what a fantastic professional review, very informative and educational, I too prefer the gray. Thank you.
Hands down best video on YT about projector screen color comarison. I think it's best to compare 0% and Outside light conditions because in your room the lights are on the ceiling and near the screen so even at 10% we can see that blacks start to pale and get colorised due to light color temperature mix - different Kelvins from the projector and different Kelvins from the light sources.
Simple test and very detailed. For me the purpose of watching movies using a projector is to have a cinema experience. If you want light in your room; buy a TV. The white screen looks perfect for me! Thanks!
I don't see how the white screen looks "perfect" to you in a pitch black room.
The contrast looks terrible on it. Black looks Gray. 👎👎👎
Awesome. Really helps show the difference in shades of gray!
A very well done comparison. I'm the type to prefer some ambient light to keep the strain on my eyes down, so I'd probably want the middle or left one.
Or I can sell a few limbs and buy a cool laser projector that might work better in lighted situations.
No joke... Like $20k worth, but man I bet they are nice!
Thanks for the video . It made me go with the 1 gain grey all day
Thanks bro this is amazing,
Been sleeping so late trying to find the best screen & boom, here I come across your amazing video at 12:20am this crazy thanks to you now I will be sleeping early...
This was really helpful & awesomeness..
Big up...
Glad it helped man! Now get some sleep... 😁
Thank you for making this! I have been wrangling over getting a screen but didn't know what material was best for my space.
Excellent You did a Great Comparison
Awesome video!!! Looking forward to the follow up on how to build the screen!
perfect video 10/10
i was really curios if a ALR screen was really needed but i see is just need when the room has some light disturbing, so i can just get a good gray screen to have a very decent image quality in my dark room
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much for your outstanding comparison.
я бы сказал что это лучший обзор! the best review, thanks from USSR ))
I had planned on the ALR screen but due to the location in my condo there is limited seating with 40 degree of center and have more angle seating in the 50 to 80 degree range. This was very helpful will be ordering the FlexiGrey :) ty
Very enlightening! The white screen looks best, but only as long as it's completely dark. I wonder how that works in your room with the white ceiling...
Also, I really would have loved to see a Movie with letterbox bars...they are always a challenge...
My ceiling is the same color as the screen wall, Software from SW in their flattest sheen. You'd definitely see more reflections with a white ceiling. And yea I guess I didn't do any scenes with black bars...
Thank you, thank you! You have been my inspiration to go bold and be brave and paint a gray accent wall for my projector and shadows
It's definitely worth doing!
Simply a great video. Thankfully I dont have to go to a dedicated store to see the difference myself now, as this looks like a pretty accurate representation. Thank you very much!
great video !!! it seems like the Flexi gray gave deeper blacks without losing to much brightness
going to make that my next screen
It really did look good. I'm going to up the brightness a bit on my projector to help with that, but should look great once the full screen is installed
It will lose more white than it gains in black level. I got a grey screen and I really regret the purchase.
@@ChrisKadaver how many lumens is your projector?
@@luisnavarrete1602 2200
@@ChrisKadaver Do you have a perfectly dark room or do you have ambient lights? So in your opinion you would opt to use a white screen despite having ambient lights?
Great info and love the Victory signs in the backgrounds.
PERFECT VIDEO REVIEW!
I feel like the white was the best overall with the ALR screen coming in second. The middle grey looked washed out in its entirety, meaning neither black or white popped. The white screen felt a little over exposed at times, but this may not be as noticeable when viewing it without the direct comparison to the ALR screen. The blacks are the best with the ALR but the whites suffer more than the blacks suffer on the white, if that makes sense. I guess it's personal preference but I would go with the white because I like the brightness and clarity of the whites.
My basement can be transformed into a dedicated movie room, when it's not the kids play/sports room and there is no ambient light, for the most part. Blackout shades control the light during the day if it is used but mostly I use the movie room at night so there is no need for the ALR screen.
It was hard to tell the color reproduction from this video. Whether it was your camera or projector it was hard to tell how colors popped. But that didn't hinder the review at all. Based on the brightness comparison, I can tell the colors would pop more on the white since the ALR screen washed out any whites. I'm watching this on an LG 4k monitor with very good color accuracy and contrast ratio so I am getting a very thorough view of the different tones that are produced.
All-in-all, great review and the time you spent producing this video definitely helped me as well as many others, based on the comments. Kudos!
Best comparison video I've ever seen. Great job!
one of the best videos i've ever seen on this subject. my choice would also be the grey.. thanks 👍
Appreciate it man. This was an extremely time consuming video, glad it has been helpful!
Love that ambient light rejecting one
Good man. Thanks for the video. The light grey seems to add a little warmth and contrast without losing too much on the color.
Thays what I went with myself
I’m only 100 seconds in and this video is already exactly what I was looking for, that’s so incredible they sent you that specific screen for comparison sake!
They were awesome to work with. Great people over there. Hope the video helped man!
oh my god didnt expect to see you here ! :D
Excelent video, thank you for your work.
Excellent work thank you so much.
A Superb educational video with superb addicting background music. Fantastic work !!! Thanks. I am building exactly the same 100 inch screen with the FlexiGray for my new Polaris 4K UST.
Thank you for sharing your results with us, much appreciated! Currently in the process of building out a dedicated home theater room. A few year's ago I did a DIY screen build using Carl's flexigray and it turned out an absolute killer with crazy black levels on Epson 6040UB (mind you, I have vaulted ceiling that is painted white and the screen can easily handle light reflections from the ceiling). With the new room going to be painted dark navy blue (incl. ceiling), dark carpeted floor and no windows - I'm inbetween using gray or white for my new screen. Latter would definitely help with HDR content but I feel like even the smallest ambient light in that room would ruin the picture for me. Guess I should order both and if I don't like the white, I could possibly sell the screen.
Glad you like it! That'll be an awesome room as far as light control. Do you feel you'll ever watch with any lights on? I had to ask myself that with my current setup. We really do black out the room most of the time, but the few times we watch during the day or with friends over and bar lights on led me to the gray. Plus the Panasonic projector will have better black levels with it. But like you said, the materials are really cheap enough that you could order both and see which suits you best! Good luck man
1. Dark blue walls will mess with your on-screen colors. And with your eyes. Get matte black or extremely dark gray only, When you are not projecting and have room lights on, have some color RGBY LED wall wash lights throw to the walls and screen area. 2. For screen, get pitch black or extremely dark gray. I have a test screen that is 4.8 meters wide in the 1.90:1 Aspect Ratio,, pitch black, it measures at an app. a 0.8 gain. Not exactly OLED blacks, but pretty close.
Helpful bro thanks
Was deciding between grey and white, this vid was everything I needed. Thanks!
Which did you eventually get?
@@andrehall6432 I think white is great when in a complete dark room, but where there is a bit of ambient light, grey is great
Awesome, thanks for the great comparison video. You saved my a lot of hassle.
I went silver to grey then back to white for my room. The white was best for me in my dedicated HT room with really good light control (flat darker walls). Which let me dial back my projector brightness a bit and not over saturate the image.
Great comparison!!!
Which white screen did you use? silver ticket? or a pricier one?
yeah i got a silver ticket gray and am switching to white, I tried to be cool and different with the gray but its just too dark lol
Awesome video! I appreciate your efforts. Really liked how many different samples you had for comparison.
Best review to date. Thanks for this 😊
Black are so much deeper on the grey screen! Definitely getting a higher gain screen now 🙏
Thank you you helped me to pick between grey and white
Great video!!!
got me at ambient light rejecting, dolby atmos boosting. Automatic smashed-like button
😂🤘
amazing job kyle 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
This is very helpful! Also I love the movie choice!
Thank you you’re the best 👌🏻 really appreciate your efforts 🤍🤍🤍
I live in Brazil, I will use the fabric Salange HX 820, ordered from Banggod, in the size of 100``, to watch without loss of quality also during the day.
This is a well done video, but it has me confused a bit. You say the ALR screen with 1.5 gain is the second brightest of the three screens. However, it looks dimmest in all of your examples. The lower gain Flexi Gray looks considerably brighter to me. I have an Elite Cinegray 5D screen which was supposed to be 1.5 gain(it's really .8) and am looking for something brighter.
Awesome video. It should have 100,000 views.
Thanks Ernie. I agree 😉
@@LifeofBliss
Well it is past 105k, woohoo! It's a very nice demonstration!
You have forgotten the total BLACK screen! It gives the best results indor and outdoor. Viewing angles are 170°. Contrasts can easily be adjusted.
I have a 8000 lumens ,360" projector. 12 bit colors. 1080p. 4k-64k videos are stunning even an a dirty white wall. I expect improvents...25% on white, 50% on grey and 100% on black screen. Will build my own Black foldable, portable screen.
Please mention BEST PAINT for black screen.
We have Grey on our walls and I was curious. Thanks for the info!
sir what was your projector Lumens of Brightness ?
nice informative video..
Thanks. Kinda low, probly 450 ansi lumens. Bright enough, but I need to upgrade soon. This is an older model PJ
I just ate dinner to this video it was so well done!!! Congratulations, you just earned a sub to my coveted 'at home' TH-cam account!
I am honored to be part of such an elite group... 😁👍
Thanks..exactly what i was searching..👍
This is really helpful. Thanks.
I know what screen I am getting and where too thanks to you, thank you 🙏🏾
Glad the video helped man 👍
Awesome video. I'm about to buy a projector and screen and I looked at the Carl's fabric. This video really helped me.
Glad it helped Chris!
Im in the same place, agree totally. Really great video.
Your work is amazing: thanks a lot your video is key for my choice
Great video. Well done sir.
Thank you sir
I use a block-out dark grey roller blind and everyone is amazed...pretty dark room
I bought the ALR screen for my theater room from Carl’s. Even tho my room is 100% light controlled, I love the colors and contrast on that screen.
Yea I know... it was a hard choice between that and the gray color.
Alr blacks look fantastic. I'm so used to my oled I'd have to go with that one.
Great comparison thanks.
Is it just me or does the ALR look better every single time? Even in 0% light which white is supposedly better for. Maybe I just prefer a darker image?
It does look much deeper in colors but some details are lost in dark scenes so keep that in mind
Interesting, the ALR screen appears to actually "crush" the blacks, giving a bit less dynamic range to the shadows. I think I'd rather take more detail but slightly washed out like in even the white screen.
ALR screen surfaces are for the birds, really. As are 0.25:1 Throw Ratio UST projectors.
Excellent video, thank you very much.....
Amazingly helpful!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FROM INDIA 🇮🇳
great comparison. thanks
depend what lummens light have the projector, the grey dark screen is for projector up from 4000 lumens,
and the white projector screen is for projectors down than 2000 lumens, cheers,
Perfectly done video!
White all the way for dark room use for sure.
What would be good for a Sony 270es in a dark room? I`m projecting on a wall right now, the dark scenes look great, almost Oled like. But brighter scenes get a bit washed out.
Either the flexigray or white. I wouldn't do alr for that area
Hey can i ask which did you get?
This video helped me a lot thanks!
Well i just bought a very budget friendly projector (Groview jc818c) and here i am looking for a screen to match..
Seems like something like the middle one is the way to go since my room is quite dark.
Not sure if its a good idea with a budget projector like this
superb effort. love it
Interesting video. Ive always wonder if the grey screens vs white throw off color accuracy, i have i1 pro to spectrometer and always wanted to test the color accuracy for rec709 and 2020 color spaces but i have got a projector and the screens yet. Ive seen no one else do it yet on youtube but its expensive for the equipment wonder if you knew any color calibrators and have them test it. .
Dear. Wich color you recmend for better result ... Pl name the color . Thax
How many lumens is a “brighter projector” ? As needed for the grey
Hi, great video! This has been a huge help. Are you able to cut the material for resizing purposes? I’m looking for a smaller 50” screen.
Absolutely. I have another video that went more into the building of the screen if you wanted more info on that. Its just a pvc plastic, so it cuts very easily with either a razor or scissors
I love 3D, so using any screen that takes away even more brightness is a no- go.
0:14 That's a mouthful!
LOL
Thank you for this.
Awesome video great job! I have been using Carl's white rear projection screen on a 100" 21:9 frame I built for 3 years now and it's just as good as the day I put it together with no maintenance at all. We have used it outside a couple of times as well very enjoyable experience. I think this is my first time to comment on one of your videos, but have watched many... You're doing a great job! PS: Carl's was great to work with!
Appreciate it! I'm excited to get the Flexigray in to make the full size screen to see how it looks. I was very impressed with the materials and how easy it was to stretch it out on the frame. He's been great to with as well! Have a good one man!
Great video very helpful thanks
Glad it helped Dave
Great video! I'm still torn between color or size or actual screen or painting the wall on a smooth surface...lol too many decisions.
Great job and very helpful video! What would you suggest if I was to do this outside in broad daylight? I know it won't be super clear and I'm not expecting that, I just want to be able to see what's going on at least. My projector is really bright around 3400 lumens.
If broad daylight, the ALR screen does the best at rejecting ambient light. It's also worth noting that it works best if the light is not coming from the same direction as the projector (window behind the projector). But in any case, ALR would be my choice. Glad it helped Will!
@@LifeofBliss thank you for the info and quick response!
I too think the grey does more justice and is best compromise of vividity and brightness
Thank you for your great demonstration, it was very helpful. I look forward to seeing how you build your screen.
Glad it helped! Here's the screen build video th-cam.com/video/Ao18_Ciq3z4/w-d-xo.html
Super video! I applauded for $2.00 👏
I think you're the first to do one of those. Appreciate it Douglas! 🍻
did you ever get the greyish whites out of the center panel?
thank you for this
Hi which screen is best for ultra short projector?
I love FlexiWhite.
One from left..good for days ..and the middle good for nite....from my 5 years watching projector experience.
Great video thanks
Gray looks the best! I have a direct window pointing at the where the screen would go in my theater. Also I have seating outside of the reccomend angle for an alr screen. So flexi gray would be a good balance between flexi white and an alr screen.
I think in a complete dark room, white carries the day
How did you do the black border tape. I have my frame made and its near perfect flat and is perfect square. Gained like 2 levels of woodworking.
But I am puzzeled on how to do tape dead on straight as someone who cant draw a straight line. I am aiming for 1in border could live with 2.
You could always take a straight edge and draw a light pencil mark where the edge of the tape should go. It won't be seen since you'll be essentially covering it with the tape. I honestly can't remember exactly how I did it