Someone told her to be "mentally prepared to meet her" yet Irene's whole team defend her along with other 60 employees of SM, at least she should have bring some sort of proof.
and the thing is that the stylist was literally lying. the stylist had worked with her before and even made a post that basically had a love poem in the caption yet deleted it once the scandal started
Thank you for this. So many people are quick to judge this young lady. How many idols of her caliber have you seen Iron a young members school clothes (Yeri) and make sure she was neat and did well in school. Made sure she ate well and did what was needed. Think of how hard it is for her to be around most males that are wanting to have such an icon for a trophy. No wonder she does not like being around men. Men are very disrespectful to this young lady. It is simply not right. Your video is wonderful and i thank you from the bottom of my heart. She is a beautiful human being and cares for her members the way she is supposed to.
That controversy always bugged me since it came out. It felt like everyone was just waiting for her to get into some sort of scandal so they could justify their hate. Specifically by the fact that no one knows what actually happened, as others have said, both sides of the story are important and Irene’s side will never see the light of day yet ppl still run around as if she was caught m*rdering someone in 4k. Also it just doesn’t hold up when u actually look at it, when this happened irene was already a professional in the industry, she’s not a child, I think it calls more to question on what exactly did the stylist do to elicit such an extreme reaction from her in the first place. There’s also something inherently wrong with the phrase “be mentally prepared when meeting her” it feels like everyone has forgotten that U DONT KNOW SOMEONE UNTIL U MEET THEM. If u allow others to skew ur perception of ppl then that says more about u than them, the underlying acceptance u take from that advice is evidence enough that no matter what the person is actually like, u have already decided that ur not gonna like them bcuz of preconceived notions, which is quite frankly, childish but I digress. Regardless, I’m not dismissing any of her actions, she slipped up and (just like every human ever) realized her mistake and apologized. What I don’t agree with is everyone and their mom making thousands of assumptions about her based on this *one* incident. This next part is unrelated, but it seems like celebrities in Asian countries deal with so much sh*t even based on the most minute expressions they make, and subsequently this affects the way international fans (who are consuming the same media) think as well.
Even when the accusation was right, I'm not blaming her for it. As a person who pursue career, I understood the feeling of anger and desperate when your effort and hard work ruin by someone's reckless action. If I were in her shoes, I probably act the same. Despite the stylist accusation, look at them now. Their style better than ever!
The individual failed at their job and Irene was upset that it effected her performance for the ReVeLuv’s watching. She wanted to perform her best because they were not doing many stages at the time. She was only concerned about the fans getting to experience the best live show. Look at what she did for the ReVeLuvs in Jakarta. Irene was already announced as unavailable to perform due to sickness but she pulled herself together and show us why Wendy said “Irene is the greatest woman of her generation!”
let's be honest, not everyday is a good day to everyone and yeah what she did that day isn't right but people judging her whole being because of that incident, making up assumptions about her, making up lies about the incident, and even bringing her family in that issue doesn't sit right with me after that incident. Doing all of that for her one mistake when you don't even know the full story, the reason why she reacted that way and what really happened that day. She even apologized many times and even apologized in front of the stylist. I don't think the issue would be even that big if it isn't irene who they see as a cold person.
She’s one of the kindest, talented, loving, gorgeous person I’ve ever seen in my life, her kinda cold face makes you want to know more about her and when it happends, you fall in love with her, and you just don’t want to scape anyway, that’s what I think of her.
All Irene did was chew out an incompetent freelance stylist who wasn't capable of doing her job properly. So unless you've NEVER freaked out on a drive-thru attendant who screwed up your order six ways from Sunday, you don't get to judge. Every single one of Irene's present and former stylists stepped up to defend her, saying that Irene is a dream to work for, but she demands a certain level of professionalism. The stylist in question obviously wasn't capable of that.
"All" ??? Chewing multiple people out, once for 20 minutes is disgusting and gow can you even say chewing out at a fast food worker is normal like WTF. Not every stylist defended her many confirmed she was acting rude to them too
@ollespengler9691 The stylist in question also changed her story multiple times. First it was, "Irene screamed at me for 20 minutes," then it was "I was in a room with Irene for 20 minutes." She lied about the whole thing.
The demand for someone to have a certain level of professionalism isnt a bad thing. It may have sounded strict, but there’s nothing for anyone to get worked up over something that simple.
@misterwacky3186 Do you know who Edward Avila is? Kpop makeup artist to the stars? He was asked to comment on Irene's situation and he said "I don't know either party and I wasn't there to witness what happened, but I'll tell you one thing... after being in this business as long as I have, I can tell you for certain that NOTHING will pi** you off faster than incompetent staff. Irene is a homebody and notoriously shy around people she doesn't know well, so the stylist in question had to have been an utter disaster to set her off like that. It says volumes that the stylist in question was a freelancer who didn't have steady employment.
It wouldn't be such a huge issue if people would stop placing celebrities on a pedestal. No one is perfect so stop placing such irrational expectations on others regardless of success.
Coping so hard. So dumb and disgusting to say fans who dont want to support an idol who is SUPER rude to staff MANY times are asking for too much of her, as if thats a pedistal thats hard to reach. Like Dafuq are you on
I am Korean-American in my 30's and started getting very into Kpop around 2021. I'm mostly a fan of 4th Gen groups but have looked into a lot of the "drama" scandals of the past such as Garam, Soojin, Giselle, etc. And here Irene. From what I can tell these are cases of people being overly sensitive, cancel culture, which is just a thing that has sadly become the reality for most of society nowadays. Obviously, there is a fine line and you can tell when someone is downright malicious or just not a good person in general. That does not seem to be the case here. I fully side with Irene and not because she's "my queen"
As long as i remember, 2 months after the scandal.. There's anonymous speak up about the real story behind, op said she's from a small business that worked for the stylist. That day she was supposed to deliver her products for the photoshoot but the stylist was so rude and tossed her product to the ground just because op said there's no table left for her to display her product. Irene saw it and help pick it up and defend op. Op said that's the story behind the scandal. The stylist's ego was hurted and she seek for revenge just to show irene that she has a tittle in the entertainment to put irene to the ground.. Sadly, that story didn't blow up and just sink down like that because the damage already done.. I just wish that karma will do something, irene didn't deserve to be treated like this
I mean having a bad day or been irritated doesn’t give you the right to verbally abuse your staff for 20 minutes. Seriously, in what context been abusive can be justified just bc we’re human?
@@starcraft5331 we know, the stylist talked about the situation, Irene admitted everything and apologized. No matter what could happened, that doesn’t mean you can’t verbally abuse your employees, under any circumstance. Fr just tell me in what circumstances you would think the abuse could be dismissed. Or in what circumstances what the stylist experience wasn’t abuse?
@@Mm29051 the stylist never said that Irene verbally abused her 20 minutes long. She just stated they were together for 20 minutes... The thing is the stylist never said what Irene actually said. So we can't really judge if it was really abuse, complaining or just an argument
Great video! I’m totally willing to admit that Irene may have spoken harshly but I am baffled with how people seized on one person’s account to paint her as the worst person ever. I am in a field that is super hierarchical, more than entertainment, to the extent that your career can be ended until the day you finally finish training. There is a lot of sympathy and support for trainees and people who are lower on the totem pole who claim to have been mistreated. But God, if I copy pasted what Kang Kook Hwa wrote on to a forum for my profession, I would’ve been roundly questioned about the details and no one would automatically say that my superior was wrong. There are always two sides to every story and we got almost no details. Anyway, she and KKH totally resolved the situation and it’s been years and many people who work with her absolutely adore her and defended her so I’m quite tired of the way she’s been misrepresented. She’s imperfect but I believe that on the whole, she is a good person who didn’t receive the disproportionate witch hunt and (ironically) abuse/attacks that she got.
Well done. I love to see it being done this way. Many people just present the style’s sides and never point out that no one knows what actually happened. Thank you for being respectful even though I’m sure you have opinions. Thank you for put bias aside. As a fan for Irene it makes it easier for me to educate people on what happened. This is how it should be done every time. 👏🏻 thank you , genuinely 🙇🏼♀️
she got a little mad at someone over someone not doing their job properly. Someone who is not in the public eyes so if things go wrong Irene or her members' reputation might be tarnished. And she apologized more than twice but do we know if the stylist had said or even felt sorry for what she did? Instead she went ahead and destroyed her career like how is that even fair? You can't just do anything and hope the goody idols to be nice about it. If anything, it just shows how easy it is for people to destroy the careers of these girls
Irene obviously had lots of training in acting and moving gracefully, you can tell she tries to be conservative and ladylike when the other members cut loose and act crazy. She's had training in manners and people mistake that for being a b*tch.
Yelling at a stylist just once, and it’s their first time working together, yet the stylist was prepared to record the convo? That’s intrusion of privacy and how come knets didn’t say anything about it? Who the hell brings a secret recorder to work and record someone they are working with for the first time? It’s like she is prepared for something to happen or maybe she made things happen to trigger Irene. And how does just one isolate incident make a person link to galpji ? This doesn’t make sense at all. Just one day u got intentionally triggered and u lost it,then u are cancelled zzz
@@evamakri9694 esp like it’s a “ one day “ job. And their previous work project was fine, but the stylist had forgotten about it, which means that was like her “first “ time meeting her and then she came so prepared to “kill “ her.
@@evamakri9694 and she may definitely have the recording of Irene yelling at her for sure. But , she may not record what actually caused this incident to even arise, she would have just recorded the part then Irene went crazy . And how would Irene even defend herself…
Somebody who is genuinely able to laugh so wholeheartedly like Irene can only be a true soul - there is no way of debating this - it is easy to defame a person and is usually done by people of low nature - it has become a sport - it is as if there are just too many people who are actually nothing and think they can tighten themselves by falling over others - if you don't find beauty in yourself you are not going to make yourself look better by trying to smear others - Irene and Red Velvet have done what we have wanted then to do - entertain us - and they did it beautifully - so stop it, stop looking for dirt -
I think people just wanna tag her as mean when she is kind of like Wonyoung that wants everything to be efficient but will also take no shit and will set boundaries to prevent her and her members from being exploited.
Should NEVER appologize to the "public"... IF there was an issue it's ONLY between the people involved. The fact the the so called 15yr "veteran stylist" went public with it, is frankly a form of blackmail and/or an attempt to cancel someone they didn't like. Sometimes Idols have a "bad day". They are People and HUMAN. IF that was even what happened, as it could have simply been an issue/disagreement with that one particular person as to what she wanted done. I.E. if a customer asked a stylist for something to be done a certian way, but the stylist did something different... there Should and Will be problems.
Thank you for this thoughtful video. I'm Twice as old as most people commenting here. From what I've researched ... It seems the Stylist was incompetent and got dressed down for it. Too bad, suck it up and do a better Job for the customer next time, rather than whine. Irene may have been snippy - but she has the right to insist that the people actually touching her face be of the highest quality as Irene is a very exacting, and meticulous person ... as she should be. It's part of job to look perfect. In the USA the stylist would have Not gotten an apology, it was Nice of Irene to do it.
the otherside to the story was that, that stylist is incompetent... if she styled Mariah Carey or Beyonce, do you think she would still be a stylist today? I dont think so...
Some accusations on celebrities ( like Ellen Degeneres) seem legit, but this one doesn't. The stylist goes to work, makes a mistake, gets yelled at so much "for the first time in her life" and "starts crying" but has the composure to grab the recorder and record the incident? Besides, stress-shouting is a staple if you are a high pressure gig.
Honestly some people just need to stop being so fucking sensitive. Like what do you expect Irene is a human she’s not a machine. She’s bound to get angry and we honestly don’t even know if it’s true or not because the whole story wasn’t released. I’m sure that stylist has gotten angry before and snapped. Doesn’t mean you can try to ruin someone’s career over it. She apologized. That should have been the end of that ordeal. But no people had to blow it way out of proportion. Now she’s even quieter and doesn’t go out as much. Like wtf is wrong with the world.
Just one question. How long are the haters going to beat this dead horse issue? Her fans understand what having a bad day can do to you. And if the haters lives ever came under the scrutiny of millions of people every day. I wonder how they would fare in a situation like this even after you posted a public apology. Oh well opinions vary and we are all entitled to ours.
Such a scam! I really feel she got intentionally lead in to potray such anger, and then record it to use it against her. Someone must be so damn jealous of her achievements and want her down so badly
People seems to dismiss the scandal, yes she is human, everyone has a bad day, we know… but that don’t give you the right to verbally abuse your staff over 20 minutes until the point they cry. Like come on, she already had a reputation on been “difficult” with her staff, and even Belle Shao, really big name in China fashion industry, has spoken about working with her and how she feel sorry for the Korean staff that had to worked every day with her and her bad attitude……. I hope she really had change, i actually don’t hold anything against her, she didn’t personally hurt me and she already apologized to the people she hurt. Years had pass so it’s ok to move on I guess, but it’s not like we should dismiss abusive behavior and make excuses, like she’s humans but her employees too
@@lampsphere1530 pleaseeee that info it’s not confirm at all!! A clear example of how fans can’t admit when and idols do something wrong, they just invent excuses 😂 and believe me, I’d read everything related to the scandal so seeing that kind of lies… it’s a little bit funny.
Belle Shao is kinda known in the China weibo industry not just as someone with a big fashion name (she actually doesn't have much followers at all and the only reason why her post abt irene gained traction is because she deliberately went into the tags mentioning irene's name to post about it LOL literally her post has #IRENE道歉 on it, which she definitely knew stans were camping in esp since she posted after irene apologised--in weibo when you make a post that has a hashtag right in front like hers did, that means you actually went INTO the hashtag itself and posted in the front page forum there deliberately lol not that you tagged it subconsciously), but she's also known to jump on idols that she doesn't like lmaoooo (as mentioned back then by other cfans from other chinese artists unrelated to irene when her fans were trying to determine the validity of her statements) in fact they worked with irene only once and back in 2016. there was no specific issue mentioned, just that belle shao kept baiting the fans by saying omg if i say it it will be too much and the end of ur unnie's career. she's known to do this amongst a lot of other cfans lol esp for clout and attention. hell, even the fashion magazines credit her but despite that never tag her official weibo despite her having it for years lol. in fact a lot of cfans take belle shao's words with a HUGE pinch of salt. in fact now she's pretty much faded back into silent obscurity.
@@veach737 i don’t know how her “followers” had something do to with her influence in the fashion business, she already had worked with much more important people than Irene lmao no need for her to lie, even if she just wanted attention
@@Mm29051 its nothing to do with her followers lol its more of the fact that she's kinda known to do these things, and other fans from other fandoms of other chinese artists actually advised in taking her words with a pinch of salt due to prior experiences. but up to you i guess. plus, she was definitely not following rv or any of rv's tags (you can see that in her weibo), but deliberately went into a tag where irene's stans were to make a post after her apology to add fuel to the fire. so compared to the first stylist who accused irene i'd be less inclined to believe belle shao because all these are also signs of how usual cnetz/ xyh and popular pple trying to stir things up even more do--going into a already somewhat settled controversy to stir up more trouble/anger/rage /fight back from fans. its a regular tactic in the chinese weibo soc med, but something u probably wouldn't know since i doubt you hardly went into weibo yourself or have an account. weibo/chinese soc med has fanwars and fights like these every other day and is extremely toxic, so the reason why pple take her words with a pinch of salt is because even pple with accolades and some name like her do the same thing on REGULAR, if they want to purposely cause trouble for some other artists that they don't like etc. they simply throw accusations without proof, saying that i'll never say what happened etc so that the rumour gets spread bigger and bigger. its basically twitter but 1000 times worse lol. not that this invalidates what the first stylist said abt irene or anything but usually any sign of some controversy of the artist esp in china, you look at their baidu bar first rather than other supposed "accounts" that suddenly speak up or throw accusations, regardless of their name, fame or anything. because in china their baidu bar is the biggest n also the ones most closely working WITH the artist and the company. this is also why when lucas' controversy came out it was set in stone and completely tanked because--his baidu fanstation / his main fanstation in china completely closed down. usually these chinese fanstations are also sasaengs, so they know a lot of things abt the artists compared to most of others who claim they do, so their words are more of a holy grail than that of others because of how intrusive they are into the artist's lives. till now, irene's main chinese baidu bar is still supporting her, and they were the ones that actually advised in fans not engaging with belle shao, because belle shao was replying to every single angry fan against her words with even more infuriating challenges and mockery, which again, is another common thing that those that wish to cause fanwars or problems do.
If you like Irene just like no need to justify if she mean or not. Just like the mean girl that's okay . In a industry with 1000s of people there are some divas
@@tomandjerry2568 The stylist worked with her prior and she previously had said she was lovey to work with. Then she came out with the cryptic message. Then we only got the stylists side and not Irene’s . Then we got MUAs, former staff etc. say how good Irene is and come to her defense. So who are you to dictate what opinion I should have on Irene? She did something wrong and owned up for it. What more do you want? Do you want justice? The stylist got justice, the stylist has moved on. So why haven’t you?
I understand you are a fan. I was living in Korea during this, you should probably tell the story a little more. It was multiple people on both sides that had negative and positive to say. There were people that backed up the claim about her nasty behavior, and there were some that were saying she’s not like that. You are making it seem like it’s just one person.
how do u misunderstand multiple claims of bullying ? there are several idols in her position or higher that don't feel the need to treat their staff like crap but go ahead and cheer her on
State your sources please. And I'm not talking about a stylist who suspiciously disappeared once she was questioned. Irenes apology is not admission of guilt, it's most likely mandatory damage control demanded by sm
She also doesn’t treat her staff “like crap” when these allegations were made back up dancers, make up artists currently and previously worked with, and even stylists came to her defense. They posted on their stories and even made Instagram posts in her defense. When that one allegation came forward so many staff came to her defense because they showed videos of Irene treating them well and giving them gifts for special occasions. So yeah I will continue to cheer her on
Ok so all the other staff who worked with her for years,the members,fellow sm idols,non sm idols who adore her what about them!? I'm not saying scolding your stylist is a good thing offcourse it's not but what's the reason she scolded them for? Do we know that prolly we don't right? So do we have the rights to speak up about who's bad or who's the victim!!? No right?
@@rayanosama8406 I never said she murdered someone but she definitely did a scandal and instead of holding her accountable you are the one who are defending her even though she herself admitted to it. And yes I'm minding my business you are the one who is replying to my comment so you mind your business I can write whatever i want to. Stop babying your idols.
@@whatiwanttosee And do you have any reading comprehension or not??? I didn't said anyone did murder I just said that they you all will do anything to save your faves no matter what they do. Stay delusional and keeping licking their asses.
I will never forgive her for what she did to that poor stylist..don't forget first she denied it and when the stylist said she recorded their conversation only then Irene apologized to her
She never denied it, just SM and Irene didn’t say anything at first. As for what she did, we don’t really know what or why apart from that she yelled at her.
She never denied it stop spreading rumours also you noted that the stylist accused her of scolding but you didn't asked the stylist for the real did u? Nobody asked that right! Nobody knows that what happened so stop spreading hate towards her! The controversy ended years ago and everybody moved on u u should too
You are the only channel who has critical thinking which makes content base on fact i've ever seen. Thank you for your honesty and not spread fake news like others. I hope u'll be successful than the channels who spread fake news for engagement 🫶🏻
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Someone told her to be "mentally prepared to meet her" yet Irene's whole team defend her along with other 60 employees of SM, at least she should have bring some sort of proof.
and the thing is that the stylist was literally lying. the stylist had worked with her before and even made a post that basically had a love poem in the caption yet deleted it once the scandal started
yeah!
Maybe sm told them to lie to defend her to not let shares drop even more
I believe she is one of the most genuinely good person on earth. What you believe is your choice but I dont believe gossip medias.
I LOVE IRENE FOREVER ✨
Thank you for this. So many people are quick to judge this young lady. How many idols of her caliber have you seen Iron a young members school clothes (Yeri) and make sure she was neat and did well in school. Made sure she ate well and did what was needed. Think of how hard it is for her to be around most males that are wanting to have such an icon for a trophy. No wonder she does not like being around men. Men are very disrespectful to this young lady. It is simply not right.
Your video is wonderful and i thank you from the bottom of my heart. She is a beautiful human being and cares for her members the way she is supposed to.
Aww thank you ❤️ yh I agree with u
@@gumihoi Please keep up the great work and please keep supporting this beautiful Human child.
But does this change the outlook of netizens?
@@owl9704a I wish you would see Irene for who she is and I wish you would stop being delusional!
@@owl9704a My mom always says that if someone shows you who you are believe them the first time
That controversy always bugged me since it came out. It felt like everyone was just waiting for her to get into some sort of scandal so they could justify their hate. Specifically by the fact that no one knows what actually happened, as others have said, both sides of the story are important and Irene’s side will never see the light of day yet ppl still run around as if she was caught m*rdering someone in 4k. Also it just doesn’t hold up when u actually look at it, when this happened irene was already a professional in the industry, she’s not a child, I think it calls more to question on what exactly did the stylist do to elicit such an extreme reaction from her in the first place. There’s also something inherently wrong with the phrase “be mentally prepared when meeting her” it feels like everyone has forgotten that U DONT KNOW SOMEONE UNTIL U MEET THEM. If u allow others to skew ur perception of ppl then that says more about u than them, the underlying acceptance u take from that advice is evidence enough that no matter what the person is actually like, u have already decided that ur not gonna like them bcuz of preconceived notions, which is quite frankly, childish but I digress. Regardless, I’m not dismissing any of her actions, she slipped up and (just like every human ever) realized her mistake and apologized. What I don’t agree with is everyone and their mom making thousands of assumptions about her based on this *one* incident.
This next part is unrelated, but it seems like celebrities in Asian countries deal with so much sh*t even based on the most minute expressions they make, and subsequently this affects the way international fans (who are consuming the same media) think as well.
@@tomandjerry2568 girl be quiet… no one cares
@@tomandjerry2568then u should be in her place😂😂
@@tomandjerry2568 Her Stylist was incompetent and got dressed down for it.
@@tomandjerry2568 Her Stylist was incompetent and got dressed down for it.
@@eldestreveluv7273 What Irene did was wrong!
Even when the accusation was right, I'm not blaming her for it. As a person who pursue career, I understood the feeling of anger and desperate when your effort and hard work ruin by someone's reckless action. If I were in her shoes, I probably act the same. Despite the stylist accusation, look at them now. Their style better than ever!
At most , Irene should just Apologize for losing her cool, but what’s with all these backlash ,, doesn’t make sense
The individual failed at their job and Irene was upset that it effected her performance for the ReVeLuv’s watching. She wanted to perform her best because they were not doing many stages at the time. She was only concerned about the fans getting to experience the best live show. Look at what she did for the ReVeLuvs in Jakarta. Irene was already announced as unavailable to perform due to sickness but she pulled herself together and show us why Wendy said “Irene is the greatest woman of her generation!”
A human simple as that, y"all act as if all of you never get mad or fight and are the kindest beings in the world.
let's be honest, not everyday is a good day to everyone and yeah what she did that day isn't right but people judging her whole being because of that incident, making up assumptions about her, making up lies about the incident, and even bringing her family in that issue doesn't sit right with me after that incident. Doing all of that for her one mistake when you don't even know the full story, the reason why she reacted that way and what really happened that day. She even apologized many times and even apologized in front of the stylist. I don't think the issue would be even that big if it isn't irene who they see as a cold person.
She’s one of the kindest, talented, loving, gorgeous person I’ve ever seen in my life, her kinda cold face makes you want to know more about her and when it happends, you fall in love with her, and you just don’t want to scape anyway, that’s what I think of her.
All Irene did was chew out an incompetent freelance stylist who wasn't capable of doing her job properly.
So unless you've NEVER freaked out on a drive-thru attendant who screwed up your order six ways from Sunday, you don't get to judge.
Every single one of Irene's present and former stylists stepped up to defend her, saying that Irene is a dream to work for, but she demands a certain level of professionalism.
The stylist in question obviously wasn't capable of that.
"All" ??? Chewing multiple people out, once for 20 minutes is disgusting and gow can you even say chewing out at a fast food worker is normal like WTF. Not every stylist defended her many confirmed she was acting rude to them too
@ollespengler9691 The stylist in question also changed her story multiple times.
First it was, "Irene screamed at me for 20 minutes," then it was "I was in a room with Irene for 20 minutes."
She lied about the whole thing.
The demand for someone to have a certain level of professionalism isnt a bad thing. It may have sounded strict, but there’s nothing for anyone to get worked up over something that simple.
@misterwacky3186 Do you know who Edward Avila is? Kpop makeup artist to the stars?
He was asked to comment on Irene's situation and he said "I don't know either party and I wasn't there to witness what happened, but I'll tell you one thing... after being in this business as long as I have, I can tell you for certain that NOTHING will pi** you off faster than incompetent staff.
Irene is a homebody and notoriously shy around people she doesn't know well, so the stylist in question had to have been an utter disaster to set her off like that.
It says volumes that the stylist in question was a freelancer who didn't have steady employment.
This is such a high quality video I was so surprised when this only had 300 views
Aww thank you ❤️
It wouldn't be such a huge issue if people would stop placing celebrities on a pedestal. No one is perfect so stop placing such irrational expectations on others regardless of success.
Coping so hard. So dumb and disgusting to say fans who dont want to support an idol who is SUPER rude to staff MANY times are asking for too much of her, as if thats a pedistal thats hard to reach. Like Dafuq are you on
Irene is my bias wrecker and I love her
I will always love Irene~ ❤
Yes...now I can say they totally misunderstood her
It’s not good that she yelled at the stylist and we don’t know why. But it was one time and out of character for her and she apologised
I am Korean-American in my 30's and started getting very into Kpop around 2021. I'm mostly a fan of 4th Gen groups but have looked into a lot of the "drama" scandals of the past such as Garam, Soojin, Giselle, etc. And here Irene. From what I can tell these are cases of people being overly sensitive, cancel culture, which is just a thing that has sadly become the reality for most of society nowadays. Obviously, there is a fine line and you can tell when someone is downright malicious or just not a good person in general. That does not seem to be the case here. I fully side with Irene and not because she's "my queen"
As long as i remember, 2 months after the scandal.. There's anonymous speak up about the real story behind, op said she's from a small business that worked for the stylist. That day she was supposed to deliver her products for the photoshoot but the stylist was so rude and tossed her product to the ground just because op said there's no table left for her to display her product. Irene saw it and help pick it up and defend op. Op said that's the story behind the scandal. The stylist's ego was hurted and she seek for revenge just to show irene that she has a tittle in the entertainment to put irene to the ground..
Sadly, that story didn't blow up and just sink down like that because the damage already done.. I just wish that karma will do something, irene didn't deserve to be treated like this
I don't think about her being mean bcz everybody has bad day
Or maybe she was just irritated about something
However,she a human too
Exactly!!
I mean having a bad day or been irritated doesn’t give you the right to verbally abuse your staff for 20 minutes. Seriously, in what context been abusive can be justified just bc we’re human?
@@Mm29051 we can't just make assumptions
Bcz we were not there with them with the situation happened
And we never knew what happened at that place.
@@starcraft5331 we know, the stylist talked about the situation, Irene admitted everything and apologized. No matter what could happened, that doesn’t mean you can’t verbally abuse your employees, under any circumstance. Fr just tell me in what circumstances you would think the abuse could be dismissed. Or in what circumstances what the stylist experience wasn’t abuse?
@@Mm29051 the stylist never said that Irene verbally abused her 20 minutes long. She just stated they were together for 20 minutes... The thing is the stylist never said what Irene actually said. So we can't really judge if it was really abuse, complaining or just an argument
Great video! I’m totally willing to admit that Irene may have spoken harshly but I am baffled with how people seized on one person’s account to paint her as the worst person ever. I am in a field that is super hierarchical, more than entertainment, to the extent that your career can be ended until the day you finally finish training. There is a lot of sympathy and support for trainees and people who are lower on the totem pole who claim to have been mistreated. But God, if I copy pasted what Kang Kook Hwa wrote on to a forum for my profession, I would’ve been roundly questioned about the details and no one would automatically say that my superior was wrong. There are always two sides to every story and we got almost no details. Anyway, she and KKH totally resolved the situation and it’s been years and many people who work with her absolutely adore her and defended her so I’m quite tired of the way she’s been misrepresented. She’s imperfect but I believe that on the whole, she is a good person who didn’t receive the disproportionate witch hunt and (ironically) abuse/attacks that she got.
This is so well said !!
I love Irene
Well done. I love to see it being done this way. Many people just present the style’s sides and never point out that no one knows what actually happened. Thank you for being respectful even though I’m sure you have opinions. Thank you for put bias aside. As a fan for Irene it makes it easier for me to educate people on what happened. This is how it should be done every time. 👏🏻 thank you , genuinely 🙇🏼♀️
Thank you!
@@gumihoi you are welcome
she got a little mad at someone over someone not doing their job properly. Someone who is not in the public eyes so if things go wrong Irene or her members' reputation might be tarnished. And she apologized more than twice but do we know if the stylist had said or even felt sorry for what she did? Instead she went ahead and destroyed her career like how is that even fair? You can't just do anything and hope the goody idols to be nice about it. If anything, it just shows how easy it is for people to destroy the careers of these girls
Irene obviously had lots of training in acting and moving gracefully, you can tell she tries to be conservative and ladylike when the other members cut loose and act crazy. She's had training in manners and people mistake that for being a b*tch.
Yelling at a stylist just once, and it’s their first time working together, yet the stylist was prepared to record the convo? That’s intrusion of privacy and how come knets didn’t say anything about it? Who the hell brings a secret recorder to work and record someone they are working with for the first time? It’s like she is prepared for something to happen or maybe she made things happen to trigger Irene.
And how does just one isolate incident make a person link to galpji ? This doesn’t make sense at all. Just one day u got intentionally triggered and u lost it,then u are cancelled zzz
Yes I agree. If there was a recorder present, then obviously the action was premeditated.
@@evamakri9694 esp like it’s a “ one day “ job. And their previous work project was fine, but the stylist had forgotten about it, which means that was like her “first “ time meeting her and then she came so prepared to “kill “ her.
@@evamakri9694 and she may definitely have the recording of Irene yelling at her for sure. But , she may not record what actually caused this incident to even arise, she would have just recorded the part then Irene went crazy . And how would Irene even defend herself…
I dont know why... but i will always support her.
Because you are a parasocial weirdo who ignore peoples wrongs
Somebody who is genuinely able to laugh so wholeheartedly like Irene can only be a true soul - there is no way of debating this - it is easy to defame a person and is usually done by people of low nature - it has become a sport - it is as if there are just too many people who are actually nothing and think they can tighten themselves by falling over others - if you don't find beauty in yourself you are not going to make yourself look better by trying to smear others - Irene and Red Velvet have done what we have wanted then to do - entertain us - and they did it beautifully - so stop it, stop looking for dirt -
You are so fucking delusional
She mistreated her stylist
Her Stylist was incompetent and got dressed down for it. @@tomandjerry2568
I think people just wanna tag her as mean when she is kind of like Wonyoung that wants everything to be efficient but will also take no shit and will set boundaries to prevent her and her members from being exploited.
This is such a well made video❤
Thank you ❤️
@@gumihoiirene ❤ why is the stylist angry
because of her their styles get better and most things are their shorts are normal before it was like could see underwear
Irene ❤
Should NEVER appologize to the "public"... IF there was an issue it's ONLY between the people involved.
The fact the the so called 15yr "veteran stylist" went public with it, is frankly a form of blackmail and/or an attempt to cancel someone they didn't like.
Sometimes Idols have a "bad day". They are People and HUMAN.
IF that was even what happened, as it could have simply been an issue/disagreement with that one particular person as to what she wanted done.
I.E. if a customer asked a stylist for something to be done a certian way, but the stylist did something different... there Should and Will be problems.
Thank you for this thoughtful video. I'm Twice as old as most people commenting here. From what I've researched ... It seems the Stylist was incompetent and got dressed down for it. Too bad, suck it up and do a better Job for the customer next time, rather than whine. Irene may have been snippy - but she has the right to insist that the people actually touching her face be of the highest quality as Irene is a very exacting, and meticulous person ... as she should be. It's part of job to look perfect. In the USA the stylist would have Not gotten an apology, it was Nice of Irene to do it.
the otherside to the story was that, that stylist is incompetent... if she styled Mariah Carey or Beyonce, do you think she would still be a stylist today? I dont think so...
Some accusations on celebrities ( like Ellen Degeneres) seem legit, but this one doesn't. The stylist goes to work, makes a mistake, gets yelled at so much "for the first time in her life" and "starts crying" but has the composure to grab the recorder and record the incident? Besides, stress-shouting is a staple if you are a high pressure gig.
Honestly some people just need to stop being so fucking sensitive. Like what do you expect Irene is a human she’s not a machine. She’s bound to get angry and we honestly don’t even know if it’s true or not because the whole story wasn’t released. I’m sure that stylist has gotten angry before and snapped. Doesn’t mean you can try to ruin someone’s career over it. She apologized. That should have been the end of that ordeal. But no people had to blow it way out of proportion. Now she’s even quieter and doesn’t go out as much. Like wtf is wrong with the world.
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Just one question. How long are the haters going to beat this dead horse issue? Her fans understand what having a bad day can do to you. And if the haters lives ever came under the scrutiny of millions of people every day. I wonder how they would fare in a situation like this even after you posted a public apology. Oh well opinions vary and we are all entitled to ours.
Such a scam! I really feel she got intentionally lead in to potray such anger, and then record it to use it against her. Someone must be so damn jealous of her achievements and want her down so badly
she mean?even better
WE ALL LOVE HER ! ,SO FUCK THE HATERS ! LOL ! 😂😢😮😅😊❤🎉
Definitely not misunderstood because Eugene and Yoona never acted that way
She ruined the group tbh
@@joeblack3623u again...alive. I thought u already died😂😂
She don't like anyone it is her nature 😂evil
People seems to dismiss the scandal, yes she is human, everyone has a bad day, we know… but that don’t give you the right to verbally abuse your staff over 20 minutes until the point they cry. Like come on, she already had a reputation on been “difficult” with her staff, and even Belle Shao, really big name in China fashion industry, has spoken about working with her and how she feel sorry for the Korean staff that had to worked every day with her and her bad attitude…….
I hope she really had change, i actually don’t hold anything against her, she didn’t personally hurt me and she already apologized to the people she hurt. Years had pass so it’s ok to move on I guess, but it’s not like we should dismiss abusive behavior and make excuses, like she’s humans but her employees too
You do know that the reason she shouted at the staff was because she ask them not to give them too sexy outfits and the staff still did.
@@lampsphere1530 pleaseeee that info it’s not confirm at all!! A clear example of how fans can’t admit when and idols do something wrong, they just invent excuses 😂 and believe me, I’d read everything related to the scandal so seeing that kind of lies… it’s a little bit funny.
Belle Shao is kinda known in the China weibo industry not just as someone with a big fashion name (she actually doesn't have much followers at all and the only reason why her post abt irene gained traction is because she deliberately went into the tags mentioning irene's name to post about it LOL literally her post has #IRENE道歉 on it, which she definitely knew stans were camping in esp since she posted after irene apologised--in weibo when you make a post that has a hashtag right in front like hers did, that means you actually went INTO the hashtag itself and posted in the front page forum there deliberately lol not that you tagged it subconsciously), but she's also known to jump on idols that she doesn't like lmaoooo (as mentioned back then by other cfans from other chinese artists unrelated to irene when her fans were trying to determine the validity of her statements) in fact they worked with irene only once and back in 2016. there was no specific issue mentioned, just that belle shao kept baiting the fans by saying omg if i say it it will be too much and the end of ur unnie's career. she's known to do this amongst a lot of other cfans lol esp for clout and attention. hell, even the fashion magazines credit her but despite that never tag her official weibo despite her having it for years lol. in fact a lot of cfans take belle shao's words with a HUGE pinch of salt. in fact now she's pretty much faded back into silent obscurity.
@@veach737 i don’t know how her “followers” had something do to with her influence in the fashion business, she already had worked with much more important people than Irene lmao no need for her to lie, even if she just wanted attention
@@Mm29051 its nothing to do with her followers lol its more of the fact that she's kinda known to do these things, and other fans from other fandoms of other chinese artists actually advised in taking her words with a pinch of salt due to prior experiences. but up to you i guess. plus, she was definitely not following rv or any of rv's tags (you can see that in her weibo), but deliberately went into a tag where irene's stans were to make a post after her apology to add fuel to the fire. so compared to the first stylist who accused irene i'd be less inclined to believe belle shao because all these are also signs of how usual cnetz/ xyh and popular pple trying to stir things up even more do--going into a already somewhat settled controversy to stir up more trouble/anger/rage /fight back from fans.
its a regular tactic in the chinese weibo soc med, but something u probably wouldn't know since i doubt you hardly went into weibo yourself or have an account. weibo/chinese soc med has fanwars and fights like these every other day and is extremely toxic, so the reason why pple take her words with a pinch of salt is because even pple with accolades and some name like her do the same thing on REGULAR, if they want to purposely cause trouble for some other artists that they don't like etc. they simply throw accusations without proof, saying that i'll never say what happened etc so that the rumour gets spread bigger and bigger. its basically twitter but 1000 times worse lol.
not that this invalidates what the first stylist said abt irene or anything but usually any sign of some controversy of the artist esp in china, you look at their baidu bar first rather than other supposed "accounts" that suddenly speak up or throw accusations, regardless of their name, fame or anything. because in china their baidu bar is the biggest n also the ones most closely working WITH the artist and the company.
this is also why when lucas' controversy came out it was set in stone and completely tanked because--his baidu fanstation / his main fanstation in china completely closed down. usually these chinese fanstations are also sasaengs, so they know a lot of things abt the artists compared to most of others who claim they do, so their words are more of a holy grail than that of others because of how intrusive they are into the artist's lives.
till now, irene's main chinese baidu bar is still supporting her, and they were the ones that actually advised in fans not engaging with belle shao, because belle shao was replying to every single angry fan against her words with even more infuriating challenges and mockery, which again, is another common thing that those that wish to cause fanwars or problems do.
If you like Irene just like no need to justify if she mean or not. Just like the mean girl that's okay . In a industry with 1000s of people there are some divas
She isn’t mean though? She’s always considerate of others and people were so quick to call her arrogant after the one scandal she was in.
@@IreneisbaeYou are being so damn delusional
@@IreneisbaeWhya are you defending her?!?! She made a stylist cry!
@@tomandjerry2568 The stylist worked with her prior and she previously had said she was lovey to work with. Then she came out with the cryptic message. Then we only got the stylists side and not Irene’s . Then we got MUAs, former staff etc. say how good Irene is and come to her defense. So who are you to dictate what opinion I should have on Irene?
She did something wrong and owned up for it. What more do you want? Do you want justice? The stylist got justice, the stylist has moved on. So why haven’t you?
@@IreneisbaeI wish you would stop being delusional
I understand you are a fan. I was living in Korea during this, you should probably tell the story a little more. It was multiple people on both sides that had negative and positive to say. There were people that backed up the claim about her nasty behavior, and there were some that were saying she’s not like that. You are making it seem like it’s just one person.
how do u misunderstand multiple claims of bullying ? there are several idols in her position or higher that don't feel the need to treat their staff like crap but go ahead and cheer her on
State your sources please. And I'm not talking about a stylist who suspiciously disappeared once she was questioned. Irenes apology is not admission of guilt, it's most likely mandatory damage control demanded by sm
There was only one claim though? And the rest were proven to be fake so?
Bro really making shit up. There was only one claim. Yes, I will continue to cheer her on.
She also doesn’t treat her staff “like crap” when these allegations were made back up dancers, make up artists currently and previously worked with, and even stylists came to her defense. They posted on their stories and even made Instagram posts in her defense.
When that one allegation came forward so many staff came to her defense because they showed videos of Irene treating them well and giving them gifts for special occasions.
So yeah I will continue to cheer her on
Ok so all the other staff who worked with her for years,the members,fellow sm idols,non sm idols who adore her what about them!?
I'm not saying scolding your stylist is a good thing offcourse it's not but what's the reason she scolded them for?
Do we know that prolly we don't right?
So do we have the rights to speak up about who's bad or who's the victim!!?
No right?
You people will do anything for your idols even if they murder someone.
Well she didn't murder someone so mind your business 😊
@@rayanosama8406 I never said she murdered someone but she definitely did a scandal and instead of holding her accountable you are the one who are defending her even though she herself admitted to it.
And yes I'm minding my business you are the one who is replying to my comment so you mind your business I can write whatever i want to. Stop babying your idols.
You people will say anything to bring someone down. So one sided. Is this even close to a murder? Lol . Your life must be a lie
@@whatiwanttosee And do you have any reading comprehension or not???
I didn't said anyone did murder I just said that they you all will do anything to save your faves no matter what they do.
Stay delusional and keeping licking their asses.
@@rayanosama8406You are one of them.Do you realise how harsh words can be?
I will never forgive her for what she did to that poor stylist..don't forget first she denied it and when the stylist said she recorded their conversation only then Irene apologized to her
That's what I'm saying these fans go lengths to protect their idols.
@@chilllllllllll exactly
She never denied it, just SM and Irene didn’t say anything at first.
As for what she did, we don’t really know what or why apart from that she yelled at her.
She never denied it stop spreading rumours also you noted that the stylist accused her of scolding but you didn't asked the stylist for the real did u?
Nobody asked that right!
Nobody knows that what happened so stop spreading hate towards her!
The controversy ended years ago and everybody moved on u u should too
awww she hurt you so bad you cant forgive her
You are the only channel who has critical thinking which makes content base on fact i've ever seen. Thank you for your honesty and not spread fake news like others. I hope u'll be successful than the channels who spread fake news for engagement 🫶🏻
Thank you so much, I try my best ❤️
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