THIS is what happens with Cheap Paints on Warhammer

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  • In this experiment, I am testing the cheapest paints I found as an alternative to standard miniature paints (Vallejo, Citadel, etc.). Can you use cheap acrylics to paint your warhammer army? Let's find out!
    I own hundreds of paints, that are worth hundreds of dollars. In this video, I put a cheap alternative to a test. You might consider collecting hobby paints for miniature painting hobby of it's own (like collecting unopened warhammer kits, am I right? hahaha :( ), but what if we could use cheap paints instead?
    In this experiment I wanted to test multiple miniature painting techniques - including non metallic metal and wet blending, but in the end, you will see that I didn't even get that far!
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  • @Zumikito
    @Zumikito  3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Videos like these take me 40+ hours to put together - if you like what I am doing, consider subscribing! 👊

    • @W.edgewargames
      @W.edgewargames 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love this because I'm a cheap guy, and I use Apple Barrel craft paint for all my Marvel Crisis Protocol @j.l.Benoit.

    • @an00bies
      @an00bies 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This one took 40 hours just for layering paints :D
      Btw, loved the format on this one ;)

    • @maverickman6486
      @maverickman6486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I started out using apple barrel as a better alternative to GW paints. At that time I did drybrushing and washes. I have invested in other paints now, especially reaper paints when trying doing layering and blending now. But apple barrel can definitely do a good job and has a bad rep.@@W.edgewargames

  • @pablocamargo8744
    @pablocamargo8744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    His beard is majestic

    • @burrito6662
      @burrito6662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It really is

    • @uglymeez236
      @uglymeez236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Really jealous 🤣 can’t wait to finally grow mine

    • @klumaverik
      @klumaverik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should see it under a full moon.🤯

    • @pablocamargo8744
      @pablocamargo8744 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@klumaverik 😀😂

    • @F4FQz
      @F4FQz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ...there is a human attached to it.

  • @dannythomson5239
    @dannythomson5239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    im trying to get back in to the hobby after a stroke and nearly 30 years of not painting, your videos have been truly inspirational. THANKYOU!

    • @thehat4244
      @thehat4244 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey! How's the journey? Just wondering if things are coming back for you.

  • @DUNGEONCRAFT1
    @DUNGEONCRAFT1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    GREAT video! You have a done a great service to the community with this experiment. I've tried to convince people on my FB group that cheap paints are just not worth it. You've settled the debate once and for all.

    • @Zumikito
      @Zumikito  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you! Well, definitely not the cheapest ones 😅

    • @radaro.9682
      @radaro.9682 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you put some effort into it, like taking a few seconds to thin a bit more you can make not absolutely dogshit craft paints it's perfectly acceptable to get to table top quality. If you're a new hobbyists and want to get into it but have very little budget they're fantastic learning tools. Their problems teach how to compensate and cope and if you're using them your concern isn't pro level quality.

    • @user-demon420
      @user-demon420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they are if you mix an thin them properly i painted my old resin ork boss snickrot with craft paint i turned into modelpaint i made shure to thinn it properly and added a sargent art resin medium to it to make it stronger and to make it stick and cover better

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    funny thing was I recently was doing the opposite. Painting a couple of Christmas ornaments and glass bulbs up using army painter paints instead of these crappy acrylics people normally use and the results were amazing

  • @jeffreycrowder2866
    @jeffreycrowder2866 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for doing all the leg work and advising us in a clear and concise manner
    Cheers

  • @mwep415
    @mwep415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I pretty much always use the acrylic paints you can get at Wal-Mart or Target for like a dollar (with the exception of citadel washes). I'm certain the actual hobby paints would be better for painting, but I think I spend enough money on the models already. Anyway, I've gotten quite proficient with them, and I think I'm a pretty good mini painter at this point. They work for me, and are way cheaper.

    • @Zumikito
      @Zumikito  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I mean, as long as it works! If it costs dollar per tube (which is 4x as much as these) I guess, it will be better quality as well

  • @spacendeman
    @spacendeman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting video! Good to see and hear the comparison between the paints! Keep up the good work!

  • @dareka9425
    @dareka9425 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I recently 3D printed the solar system for my school. Even though I printed only one of half of each planet they are still too big for me to waste whatever model paints I have left. So, I used the box of store bought craft acrylic paints lying around instead. I added Tamiya thinner to every paint and used an airbrush to paint the planets. The paints looked fine with one solid color but all hell break loose when newer layers of different colors are introduced. So, for Earth I applied newer colors through dry brushing with little to no thinner.

  • @kbrautig22
    @kbrautig22 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for going through that...would be cool to keep seeing morr acrylics to keep going n test out more

  • @ckoetael
    @ckoetael 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    At first I used acrylic paints that my wife uses for decoupage, then I tried vallejo, a colossal difference, ordinary paints absolutely do not want to fit well like vallejo, so I'd rather take normal paints and won't ruin my nerves :))

  • @orkinho1
    @orkinho1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn, I see you fell hard into the I need all these colours rabbit hole. Classic¡

  • @lv100Alice
    @lv100Alice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    seeing flying tiger made my danish hearth really happy :3 it's super neat when you want some cheap stuff but ok stuff

    • @Kondi2100
      @Kondi2100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰

  • @soylencer
    @soylencer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used to use cheap Apple Barrel craft acrylic, they were about $0.50 USD a tube and they last forever. They can be thinned well enough to work, if you're on a tight budget, but they're the cheapest I would try to go. The pigments are huge and get grainy if you overthin them, yet they have so much acrylic medium in them they peel like latex if you put them on too thick. But I did paint models that came out surprisingly well, and because they are were tacky they were actually somewhat useful for dry brushing... In fact it was because they were so tacky that I discovered dry brushing on my own by accident 😅
    But honestly if you were on a super budget your best bet is to just get the primary of a good brand. Vallejo Game Color is about $3.30 for 18ml. They mix well, they thin well, they coat well. Get Red, Blue, Yellow, Black, and White (if you have leftover money by a Brown, and a Silver) and you can make about any color you want. It's not as good as actual color, but for less than $20 you have a complete rainbow of paint. I've paint it on and off for years, and although I have improved the quality of paints I've purchased, I've never had a full set of colors, and some cases it just seems more convenient for me to mix a color myself.
    Thar said, the 2023 Vallejo Game Colors are great, and I wish they had a color set like that old one you bought

  • @kjnash4149
    @kjnash4149 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so good man 🙌

  • @rivalun7696
    @rivalun7696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been using Model Color paints since I got back into Miniatures and it's an amazing paint.
    The only downside, the Gold color doe's "vanish" when I turn the miniature (You can see through).
    My local Games Workshop gave me Golden Citadel Colour and my Marines just double in coolness

  • @fenfire3824
    @fenfire3824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you consider volume of paint per dollar, there are actually realy great colors, which are even cheaper. In the hardware Store the Mixing Acrylic color for Wall paints have a high pigment density and can be thinned down very well. I use them very oftenly for terrain and lately i used them for plastic terrain and i realy think, i would also use them for miniatures.

  • @HotelCharliHill
    @HotelCharliHill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love that your hovering subscribe button is only an inch and a half long on my awesome 65" TV because your videos are a gorgeous 4K. what a pleasure to watch!

  • @YanniCooper
    @YanniCooper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cheaper paints can be great for terrain (especially basecoats), but the extra effort required (IMO) doesn't make them worth it for painting miniatures.

  • @cuauhtemocsanchez8139
    @cuauhtemocsanchez8139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    seems like i lucked out. because i got some cheap paint and i does the job just fine. but i gotta be honest, i only use them for the "boring colors" like brown, black, white. the rest is citadell for me

  • @PandorasStar
    @PandorasStar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have beard envy! Great video again my friend, you are a legend

  • @Bluecho4
    @Bluecho4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's worth noting that there are degrees of cheapness when it comes to cheap acrylic paints. These were the absolute nadir of price and quality. A painter was never going to get anywhere with them. But I've gotten craft paint from hobby stores that cost roughly $1.30-2:00 a bottle (brands like Anita's, FolkArt, Ceramcoat, and DecoArt), that work decently well. You just have to work with it a bit to understand how to use it.
    As with everything, you get what you pay for. Scraping the bottom of the barrel is counterproductive.

    • @kgoblin5084
      @kgoblin5084 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      " You just have to work with it a bit to understand how to use it."
      And it's worth pointing out that the same applies to expensive hobby paints - there are plenty of stinkers made by GW/Citadel & others.

  • @electricbill1778
    @electricbill1778 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you're mixing the colours you should have mixed yellow, magenta, and cyan NOT yellow, red, and dark blue. Essentially, you're adding pigments into the mix that you don't want, and they will make every colour look muddy.
    Also, if you want to do the cheapest way of getting started, nobody would use those paints, so why not find out the lowest number of proper pots you could use as a beginner instead?
    At a guess, I'd suggest - yellow, magenta, cyan, black, white, and a metallic, probably silver :)

  • @evankalmokoff6401
    @evankalmokoff6401 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok so im just starting out, and I have recently bought the Warhammer 40k Recruit edition box set, ive never painted miniatures before, but ive done three models when I was a kid. I have the exact paint set that you show at the start of your video the vajello one with two rows of colors in the green box. Ive been looking at lots of tutorial videos and it seems that the best brand is Citadel, I don’t have any of the proper colors to paint my models but, would it be illegal if I used flat blue or other color schemes besides what is shown?

  • @razzelmichaelsabidalas5642
    @razzelmichaelsabidalas5642 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been using regular acrylic paints on my minis since 1 bottle of Vallejo paint is already equivalent to a 24 color regular acrylic paint set.

  • @Gothic3174
    @Gothic3174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ach... české nápisy mne hřejí u srdéčka

  • @robertbritt3129
    @robertbritt3129 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use alot of Apple barrel from Wal-Mart not the dollar to dollar fifty ones they are thick and suck. However the 54cent matte paints are not watered down but there perfect for mini painting 5-10% thinner than citadel. I only use for colors i don't have in citadel yet. And a few velejo that go on really nice. But some pf the 54c paints are awesome and go on smooth as hell

  • @zyos11
    @zyos11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, you should continue this series trying different cheap brands, I hace ysed deco art for priming and it's quite decent

  • @baldurgunnarsson2578
    @baldurgunnarsson2578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow you really went all out on finding the worst paint possible and the end results made me laugh, especially since I have seen your true work.

  • @benruniko
    @benruniko 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought my first box set when I was 19 when i had a job flipping burgers. I bought my paint ($1 ea pot) from a cheap walmart type craft store. I wrangled it and got some good results after weeks of practice. Since this was years before TH-cam was a thing i had no references to go on besides some color photos in the rules pamphlets. I made it up as i went along. I would definitely cringe myself inside out if I ever saw that poor Ultramarines group ever again lol. I knew nothing about paint thinning, so it was ROUGH.

  • @jacobkotten338
    @jacobkotten338 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I painted gazkuhl with cheap Walmart paints took forever but came out looking good in the end

  • @htpkey
    @htpkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video! Do you know if paint thinners or flow improvers will help when painting miniatures with these cheap paints?

    • @Zumikito
      @Zumikito  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I didn't try it, but I don't think so - you would essentially reduce it to a wash (very matt one as well) but it wouldn't help it attach to the surface

    • @htpkey
      @htpkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Zumikito Thank you for your reply. I just wondered if it is possible to improve these cheap paints in some way (just as a test), it would probably end up costing you more time and effort to make them barely usable for miniatures. Have a wonderful weekend!

  • @LS-gc8bj
    @LS-gc8bj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually used colors from 1:52 for my very first test model xD it worked surprisingly well

  • @hewlett-packardlovecraft2297
    @hewlett-packardlovecraft2297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well hello there! Wonderful video, as always. I've been watching your channel since youtube recommended it to me, but through youtube on a ps3. Finally joined the pc world, and now I can comment on, and share your videos. I want to genuinely thank you for hours of quality entertainment, and am looking forward to all you have in store. Can't wait for your next one. I eagerly await your uploads, and have learned a great deal from you; you finally gave me the courage to start wet blending. Still not any good at it, but hey, at least I'm finally trying. Again, thank you for what you do, and have a great weekend.

    • @Zumikito
      @Zumikito  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sir, thank you! It's absolute pleasure to read comments like these! Thank you for your support

    • @hewlett-packardlovecraft2297
      @hewlett-packardlovecraft2297 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zumikito You're very welcome. It's hard to convey sincerity with a keyboard, but I genuinely look forward to every upload. Thanks for the reply, and keep up the good work.

  • @thatguyyugtaht
    @thatguyyugtaht 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always! I Hope you'll be able to make a living from these at some point, you deserve it. Cheers!

  • @ieuandeakin6497
    @ieuandeakin6497 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The purple you mixed with Kimera would be a lot darker since you used a blue that was a lot darker than the blue you used on the cheap set. So not sure the comparison there was quite on point :p

  • @WardenOfTerra
    @WardenOfTerra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best thing a person should do is to buy a Vallejo Game Color paint set.

  • @SpoonyBard88
    @SpoonyBard88 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I live in Walmart country, and they have Apple Barrell craft paints for 55 cents and there are like a hundred colors. They... work... but the coverage is insanely bad for most of them. However, as Jay of Eons of Battle has stated, their black is better than Abaddon Black, and they are a must for doing terrain, basing, and DIY projects.
    Brand new painters would be best served by buying 5 colors of their choice from a good line like Vallejo- black, white, brown, main color, and accent color. You can almost paint an entire Space Marine army with those. Slowly acquire paints only when you immediately need them.

    • @kgoblin5084
      @kgoblin5084 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Brand new painters would be best served by buying 5 colors of their choice from a good line like Vallejo"
      The problem is those paints aren't readily available for a lot of people - they either have to remote order them, or track down a games store which carries them. That's quite a lot to ask for someone new to the hobby... really the best thing for them is an option they can pick up, at a reasonably affordable price, from a local non-specialty store.
      I will hazard that the actual best paints for a new painter are artists acrylics - widely available thru general hobby stores, generally good composition, & high pure pigment (better than hobby paints honestly, which tend to be a mix of pigments to mimic particular materials). Even then though, they will have to learn some brand characteristics... a newbie wouldn't want to start with Liquitex Fluid Acrylics, for example - they're basically inks :/

  • @wildca1x1
    @wildca1x1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @zumikito I’ve been curious, have you considered trying like those standard school tempera paints that are in every grade school ever in the CZ
    Could be an interesting project

    • @Zumikito
      @Zumikito  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It came to my mind, but the thickness of the paint works against you

  • @crazkurtz
    @crazkurtz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use dollar store acrylic paints and brushes. They do fine. But I did buy a good brush from craft store for fine painting

  • @robertlavery6896
    @robertlavery6896 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flying tiger is such an odd shop.

  • @finmac4691
    @finmac4691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think an interesting idea would have been to try dry brushing with them? Since dry brushing uses up a lot of paint it'd be nice to know you can use a cheaper alternative for the same effect for dry brushing! - great video as always

    • @Zumikito
      @Zumikito  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      damn...I was thinking about it, but forgot lol - some drybrushing video is coming in the future, so most likely these will make a comeback for that

    • @finmac4691
      @finmac4691 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zumikito haha no worries looking forward to it

    • @guerrillavanilla
      @guerrillavanilla 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have had reasonable success drybrushing with cheap paints on terrain pieces

  • @beybladechallenge7536
    @beybladechallenge7536 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried. The acrylic paint I brought at Michaels is too thick. When you water out down, it’s too thin, and it leaves streaks. Ugh.

  • @wreagin1
    @wreagin1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should try adding some medium to the cheap paints to see if you can make them usable

  • @Hadesyungin
    @Hadesyungin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me: laughs in apple barrel

    • @captinundies6049
      @captinundies6049 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lmfao. Certain apple barrel colors fucking rock.

  • @JEGranberg
    @JEGranberg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any tips on handling buttery paints like Army Painter? It doesn’t have a good tooth for adhering to models in my experience.

    • @Zumikito
      @Zumikito  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't met a person that would say that they absolutely love AP over other brands, I would simply stick to other paints if you can, otherwise I have no idea

  • @NeoReziel
    @NeoReziel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry, I dont understand at 08:33 . Do you mean that is it possible to remove acrylic paint from miniatures when they turn out bad? (I'm new to paiting, no hate pls).

    • @Zumikito
      @Zumikito  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure is. You can dip them into isopropyl alcohol and rub them with a toothbrush - at least this works very well for plastic and metal minis

  • @jackfu9882
    @jackfu9882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video!

  • @nenadsavanovic8628
    @nenadsavanovic8628 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro clicked on AliExpress and gave us all lead poisoning 💀

  • @Zir0w...
    @Zir0w... 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "And by brilliant i mean TERRIBLE!" xD I laugh so much! Thanks for this video! keep up your great work!

    • @Zumikito
      @Zumikito  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed!

  • @godwishyoutube
    @godwishyoutube 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love your beard man :D 10/10

  • @conman9957
    @conman9957 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont know if its because its a video but the 2 reds on the black look barely different to me, the more expensive one looks maybe 1.5x the thickness

  • @thescourge286
    @thescourge286 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wonder if they would be good for basing miniatures at very least???.... in theory inconsistency with any type of terrain can be a good thing, at least in most of my experiences doing it.

  • @DieTabbi
    @DieTabbi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried these colors two because a friend gave up acryl painting hobby. But they never worked for me. They dont coat. Normal acryl paint seems to work well on canvas not on plastic.

  • @neilcressey8189
    @neilcressey8189 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quick question. At the end you strip them by dropping them into a jar. What do you use to strip the minis? Cos, boy do I need to strip off some ugly messes.

    • @Zumikito
      @Zumikito  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isopropyl Alcohol is my go to thing for plastic minis - then I use tooth brush

    • @neilcressey8189
      @neilcressey8189 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great thanks! 👍

  • @lucosschlepski4026
    @lucosschlepski4026 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    woow quite a surprise!

  • @harleyhanthorn
    @harleyhanthorn ปีที่แล้ว

    I used some mont marte satin acrylic paints recently and they were pretty good

    • @lRAQl
      @lRAQl ปีที่แล้ว

      really?
      I want to buy the 48 color set with 36mL per squeezer but I'm hesitant, does it stick to plastics/resin? how many layers needed? does it mix well?
      Your help is appreciated.

  • @maxbrooks5468
    @maxbrooks5468 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tiger is the best, I miss it so much.

  • @bobikmalej
    @bobikmalej 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tyjo českej warhammer youtuber, házím sub! (y)

  • @UniquenessOnion
    @UniquenessOnion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is squig army from 40k?
    It looks awesome! Where can I get those miniatures.

    • @Zumikito
      @Zumikito  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's from Age of Sigmar! the kit is called "Squighoppers" or "Boingrot Bounders"

    • @UniquenessOnion
      @UniquenessOnion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Zumikito Thx for replying. Your painting advice is awesome.

  • @user-demon420
    @user-demon420 ปีที่แล้ว

    i suggest useing a resin acrylic paint medium and some thinner it helps alot i know cus i use mostly craft paint and make my own model paint out of it cus model paint is expensive and making my own is cheaper

  • @terricon4
    @terricon4 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ya, mid level crafts paints like folkart, americana, etc... can do decent for all basecoats and highlights/edges/etc.... and for like a fifth the cost of hobby paints. They tend to start having trouble when you do layering/blending/etc... but not all of them. I mean, I just had better luck with a cheap purple doing layering than with my expensive blue from Vallejo. The lower end craft paints like crafstman... oh ya they are like a half or less as expensive again, but you start getting that really chalky texture or super matte issue with those ones. I say get mid line crafts paints for most general basecoating colors and random things, and then get the hobby paints for special things like skin tones or other things you do lots of layering/blending with, or for some high saturation colors, some hobby brands have great high saturation colors that keep the saturation in thin layers, while not all high saturation craft paints keep it as saturated in thinner layers. Though some do by all means, it varies case by case though.
    In the end, mid line crafts paints are great for first time painters just roughing it on their first minis, and you can practice to see what types of models/colors you like painting with them, and then say you love orks, or dark angles, or necrons or tyrnids... you can then buy the more expensive hobby paints that will be best used on those ones afterwards, and then compare them to your crafts one to decide if the craft are still the better option for the basecoats/highlights/etc... for me they are 95% of the time better, as it goes on the same for those applications, but is again a fraction the cost.

  • @aaron2157
    @aaron2157 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want this man to paint Aaron Kaufmans car

  • @mrfivegold
    @mrfivegold หลายเดือนก่อน

    Acrylic paint isn't bad. It just required patience.

  • @vaskal8677
    @vaskal8677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Broke me is interested in this video

  • @valeriomorena3038
    @valeriomorena3038 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kayvaan Shrike used as a sacrificial miniature?! ... Noooo! 😱

  • @LocalBaptistChristian
    @LocalBaptistChristian 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys dont use water colour?

  • @normanberg6502
    @normanberg6502 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be interesting to see these through air brushes

  • @nbell63
    @nbell63 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this, THIS is what I have learnt from today's video:
    the beard doesn't stop at the neck
    - the arms - it continues down the arms!!
    😮
    (at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if that ultra-Elvis coiffure isn't just a side-beard comb-over!) 😮😮

  • @susiduo3438
    @susiduo3438 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone who started with cheap paints I can relate :D

  • @TeeeCeee
    @TeeeCeee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You went really far with price here. I use tube artistic paints all the time (not so cheap as these but unexpensive) without problem. It is totally possible. Key is use of matt medium to get better spread of paint. You will use more layers because of transparency but you will get thin layer after all.
    You can get most of effects but you need to be patient. Acrylic delayers and flowers can be handy.
    From my experience using underpaint style of painting is better suited for such transparent paints (ala Dana Howl style of painting). Moreover because of transparency they are easy to use for highlighting and drybrushing. But patience is key here.
    Just another tool in palette of possibilty. You will not get Golden Demon using tube paints but you can get good results (and unexpensive)

    • @gensischosen251
      @gensischosen251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      finally somone agree with me, you can get good results bu cheap paints, also how i used matte medium thou? if i put matte medium on cheap arcylics paimts to make them better? im too poor to buy expensive paints like them do i will use matte mediums

    • @TeeeCeee
      @TeeeCeee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gensischosen251 You need to experiment a little with matt medium and others mediums too. Start with 50/50 with paint. As I wrote you will get thinner layers because matt medium changes viscosity. If you overdo it will be too watery. You don't improve paints as such so you don't make them better.
      Lately i start to use citadel technical contrast medium with standard acrylic paint as first base on preshaded (black & white) primed mini. Essentialy you are glazing whole model (very thin layers) from the start. Shadows are created thanks to black/ white undercoat and contrast medium gives flow to paint to went into recessess. You can get instant shadows this way and instant highlights and very small amount of paint. It was not my objective, but this way is more fast and pleasant way to paint miniatures for games. If you are interested in preshading check for example Dana Howl channel. She described this process thoroughly

    • @gensischosen251
      @gensischosen251 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TeeeCeee ok also is cheap paints or tube arcylic paints will do the job on Minis and terrains? will you teach me how to do well for cheaper paint techiques?
      and btw i dont buy pplastic minis cuz my city dosent have dnd minis so that why i made my own by making Paper mache clay and all hobby paintings methods like Dana howl and another hobbiest will do the same on paper mache clay minis just like plastic?

    • @TeeeCeee
      @TeeeCeee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gensischosen251 Sure they can be used on terrain too. Acrylics are great on paper, xps, polystyren foam etc. All depends on used primer (it should be suited to material) which increases adhesion for paints. You can also use acrylic gesso if you want (it is applied using brush and has ability to shrink when dry) which is good and cheap. You have a lot of material on YT for it (The DMsCraft, TheTerrainTutor, Wyloch's Armory, Black Magic Craft etc. etc.)

    • @TeeeCeee
      @TeeeCeee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gensischosen251 Paper mache miniatures. Very niche I guess. Lots of people plays with printed, paper ones. Miniature painting is generally 3d sculpture painting which artificially emphasizes light volume, so if you use similar size all miniature technics will be useful.
      Btw I live in big city and all I my hobby buys I make are via internet. We live in XXI century. We don't need to have hobby shop in our city.
      You can learn a lot from hobby youtubers like Zumikito Miniatures, if you are interested in scratch build, check for example Rustic Frame (they create also miniatures and uses very basic materials), Boylei Hobby Time (partially model sets, partially scratch, he shows process of painting too), Wyloch's Armory (he is very interested in skratch building). Craft acrylics are like standard for terrain buildiers. You can learn a lot from these YT clips.

  • @Soldier4USA2005
    @Soldier4USA2005 ปีที่แล้ว

    Model paints. Like most things, you typically get what you pay for.
    He's proven that somewhat false with his pain comparison video, but all it did was prove Citadel/GW paints aren't worth it. Vallejo and one other (can't remember which) were the top contenders for best paint brand.

  • @RisingApe
    @RisingApe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice, bit different to the usual stuff, fun though

  • @theeinqusition1
    @theeinqusition1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dawg I use apple barrel paints. Litteral 99 cent paints.

  • @SmallSoldier
    @SmallSoldier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really think in most cases you get what you pay for. Good advice for nubies just starting out.

  • @caletzm
    @caletzm ปีที่แล้ว

    Like video it need lots more light for any of the black primed miniature no justice when need to see the cheap actually fail or win

  • @stilgardragonclaw5834
    @stilgardragonclaw5834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:16 That's how I paint. 😂

  • @zacharyhall7466
    @zacharyhall7466 ปีที่แล้ว

    my miniatures look amazing compared to other people's miniatures (masterwork from hobby lobby vs citadel) so what's up with that?

  • @overlookedundead8711
    @overlookedundead8711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are litteraly the paints i got when i first got into painting hahahaha

  • @etherdemon
    @etherdemon ปีที่แล้ว

    I've used watercolors on minis. It's really not that bad. You'll be layering a lot.

  • @MFewwy
    @MFewwy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man, you are Czech :D, I will check out flying tiger for the stuff for miniature panting
    Dekuji!

  • @carlostroncoso4475
    @carlostroncoso4475 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried the same with some super cheap acrylics I bought at a dollar store, because I'm so poor I have to sculpt my own miniatures. I got to the same conclusions, they are usable with very poor coverage except when it comes to durability. They'll come off at the slightest touch, so much that you can'y use washes or drybrush.

  • @angelharris3727
    @angelharris3727 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah the resulting color is darker because red yellow and clue are not primary colors. The real primary colors are magenta cyan and yellow

  • @marcosfernandezrivas
    @marcosfernandezrivas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There will be posible making a video explaining how you use the isopropilic alcohol for removing paint on minis?? A 5 min explaining will be awesome. Thanks for your videos ❤️❤️

    • @Zumikito
      @Zumikito  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That might come in the future, but it's literally like explained in 30 seconds - I dip plastic minis into a jar of isopropylalcohol over night and go over them with old toothbrush in the morning.. That's it!

    • @marcosfernandezrivas
      @marcosfernandezrivas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zumikito thanks for your answer, i really enjoy your work.

    • @oliverp3545
      @oliverp3545 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Something else aswell is to keep the thing your holding it in and having it on something like a washing dryer taped down, the shaking causes a small vacuum which will help shake off alot of the paint.

  • @JesseDahirKanehl
    @JesseDahirKanehl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why not include some middle of the road paints like Folk Art and Apple Barrel? I think they'd do better than super cheap paints.

  • @oggabogga2345
    @oggabogga2345 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    video idea - can you use normal acrylic paints (not cheap)

  • @robertlong2337
    @robertlong2337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whenever you want to get rid of more paint I'm open LOL

  • @SulliverVittles
    @SulliverVittles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why'd you do my boy Shrike dirty like that? :(

  • @thomasgross8289
    @thomasgross8289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just finished painting my first ever miniatures, the elite edition start collecting box. I started out building terrain and have enough for more than 3 tables lol. My skill improved rapidly and have made some really great pieces.
    I bought into the belief that you couldn't use cheap paint for miniatures and ordered a starter set from army Painters.
    I have years experience running a 4 color process printing press and understand color very well.
    The first disappointment was how the paint mixed. Most paints are a mix of different pigments like fire yellow, or cardinal red...meaning they are a primary color mixed with some other pigments whereas the primary colors, yellow, cyan, and magenta are ...the pure color.
    The "special " paints mixed quickly just goes gray or brown and takes more experimenting to make good mixes and imo is less predictable than the primary colors.
    I painted the first with the army Painters paint and the lack of a variety of the same color was disappointing and not being familiar with the paint line had a hard time knowing what shade would be darker or lighter so I used the apple barrel paints.
    The second mini I painted was with them. I chose 3 different shades of red and painted a blood angels kinda scheme, I say kinda because idk the exact scheme, like thier specific markings and such and it came out pretty damn good tbh.
    The next i did the same but more the grim dark style using a oil wash I made from cheap oil paint and again..nice.
    Now I next tried the imperial fists and discovered quickly i didn't like yellow paint, any mixing results in...yuck lol. I striped off a lot of paint doing yellow but started playing with understanding and started getting good results but really not my favorite style of painting.
    I just really like mixing colors and I think one pigment paints or oils are going to be good for me but life has bankrupted my hobby money for the foreseeable future and will have to wait.
    My long winded point is, the cheaper paints do a lot better than you think and i wasn't blown away with the more expensive stuff, certainly not worth the price imo, overall.
    Way more important in getting quality brushes, a fine pointed brush that holds more paint.

  • @gearshiv
    @gearshiv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahh man I got some comically cheap crap from the dollar store that should be hilarious

  • @chouleo
    @chouleo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its really time for an FAQ video. Where is he from? US, Poland or Denmark?

    • @Zumikito
      @Zumikito  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha, I am not sure that people will be as interested in that, either way I am from Czechia!

  • @PhillipUranus
    @PhillipUranus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The real question is how hard is it to get paint out of that amazing beard??

  • @ruaridhmackenzie3215
    @ruaridhmackenzie3215 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crackle paste in flying tiger too!

    • @Zumikito
      @Zumikito  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      DAMN really? Didn't find it there!

    • @ruaridhmackenzie3215
      @ruaridhmackenzie3215 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zumikito yeah I was surprised to find it too, worked great for the base I wanted it for. (I gave the rest away)

  • @a-sheepof-christ9027
    @a-sheepof-christ9027 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ruined 3 of my Breacher Tau Units trying to use cheap hardware store acrylics (El Greco color assortment).
    They have much too thick consistency, and thinned down, they failed to properly disperse (like in 3:11 it remains grainy and uneven),
    or they fail to cover and adhere to the miniature.
    DO NOT believe anyone (looking at Ninjon) who claims cheap paints are viable;
    even the best will struggle with them.

  • @tflwulf69
    @tflwulf69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to disagree to a point, I bought a whole bunch of cheap acrylics which were okay but went off really quick even in a wet palette but I did buy two massive tubes of black and white for undercoating, which on a wet palette work great. I advise adding a tiny drop of water with them if using a large amount i.e. mass base coating.

    • @oliverp3545
      @oliverp3545 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Airbrushing is the best solution to wanting to use cheap paints.

    • @tflwulf69
      @tflwulf69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oliverp3545 Yeah that really is the next step for me, but after painting for 20 plus years an never being told to thin my paints and now just discovering a wet pallete I want to learn how to use that fisrt...an air brush is on the list though.

  • @timd4524
    @timd4524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never had a problem with the cheaper acrylics myself. Been using them for decades. Matter of fact, painted several GW games with them since 1989.

  • @EndyTheGamer19
    @EndyTheGamer19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shrike nooooooooooo

  • @FreelancerND
    @FreelancerND 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hapf measures.
    You should have used cheapest gouache 😁

  • @guerrillavanilla
    @guerrillavanilla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ruined a bunch of miniatures at the start of my journey with so many cheap paints. I would have SAVED money by buying one high quality starter set from VLJ.

  • @umgakwarhammster4191
    @umgakwarhammster4191 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Are you from Czech republic?? Cuz i see crowns