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I love how y’all are covering less known wars like this. I would love to see you guys cover the Chinese-Vietnam wars in the 1970’s after America withdrew because I haven’t seen anyone cover it on TH-cam
I've only ever seen a small channel slightly dabble on it and I've been addicted to see more on it. It's such a cool concept and I'm surprised no one's capitalizing on it
@@RedOctober_ It is the responsibility of the new govt to check the pending issues from long, the other party can't send proposal each time a govt changes.
Even in India we aren't taught much about post independence history, it's nice to see foreign creators shedding some much needed light onto our post independence history
@@scholaroftheworldalternatehistoh, we remember and we don't forget. It's not something that needs teaching. The betrayal is well known. How india didn't cross the border to take the fight back. It's well known in India.
My grandpa fought in this war. He was captured by the Chinese but they didn’t execute him as they found a picture of my mom in his pocket and let him go home.
My grandfather served in this war in the Assam region. He was an engineer, and while the Chinese were close to Tezpur, he and a soldier laid a communication line through a forest leading towards Arunachal. He died before I was born otherwise I would have asked him to relate all his experiences. His brother remembers some things but he is losing his memories. I know a lot of Indians will not agree, but I personally think China took a very measured response to the developments that had taken place in our history. Even at war they were humane.
@@karandullet380 I just want to say that I agree with the humanity that this friend said, unlike some comments I saw before, who said that the Chinese are like devils
@@Samuel99173 you’re welcome! It’s usually overshadowed by the Vietnam War and could have erupted into a full on 2nd Korean War if Vietnam wasn’t happening at the same time
Love that you've finally covered this lesser know conflict. It's shaped an entire generation of military and defence policy for both countries. Much there for the world to learn from. Cheers
This host is talking nonsense, and he is talking nonsense here with a little knowledge. Look at the American "Christian Science Monitor" saying that China "won the war as easily as a knife cut butter"
He only covers what is at his best interest right now, which is to destabilize the India/China relation. His version of history is full of bias view and depicts China as scare to America supporting India, that is why the Chinese retreated during the short conflict, which is also created by the British Rai when they invaded India, as well as China.
tldr: British drew a line without consulting the Chinese then left the game. Indians believed in that line, the Chinese obviously didn't. Then there was a war.
That is actually not true. The CCP was willing to concede along the MacMahon alignment but India refused because it also wants Aksai Chin. India also start physically intruded into area north of the MacMahon line.
Now lemme explain it Simla convention had been signed between the British India and Tibbet in 1914, China had no locus standi over any agreements which were being signed between Britsh India and the independent state of Tibet, China had also occupied Kashmir lands in the year 1963,from Pakistan without consulting Indians according to an agreement, since India had never recognised Pakistan's control over the parts of Kashmir, by doing this China voilated the Indian intergrity over Kashmir, if China could dare to provoke India by illegally occupying Kashmir lands from Pakistan than India would surely retaliate, China initially hadissues over the MacMohan line but China never had any issue in the Jhonson line, this issue was created just after when India hsd supported Tibet and Dalai Lama against China, China had used and is still using border issues as a political tool against it's agenda, India's claims over the macmohan line are quite valid as well, It was,China had voilated the panchsheel agreemnet between India and China, China had voilated the Tibbetan uprising of 1959 China had compeled India to launch a forward policy against them, If it wasn't for China's obsession with the MacMohan line and later wiyh Jhonson line as wlel, then there would have been no war
@@PomegranateChocolateyess .. cos ccp didn't want conflict.. so they proposed solution where both sides agrees to the defacto border or status quo to be permanent border. But india refused .
@@Tamerlane33You clowns do realise that china has border disputes even with countries it doesn't share a border with? How idiotic are you people? There was No PRC when India got independence. CCP illegally occupied Tibet and started pressing India as well, you seriously need to read Non propaganda source of history mate
The farthest Chinese army attack on the eastern front of the Sino-Indian border reached the outskirts of Tespur, but did not enter the city. According to the memories of some veterans, they were stationed near the railway line of Tespur. After a while, the Chinese army received a message from Beijing. The order required them all to retreat and reach the stop line. During this period, the Chinese army did not suffer any pursuit.
@@ratuldey4031Mate, as you long, YOU are ready to fight in the frontlines. Go ahead If not, don't send innocents to die for your cause while you sit at home
China won the war with India but they didn't occupy any land there. The UK occupied India for a long time, when they left they drew a new map saying part of China's land belongs to India, that is why the conflict between India and China can not be resolved.
There was no “McMahon line” in original agreement. However, British rewrote it by adding McMahon line in British documents which means even Tibet did not sign an agreement including McMahon line. Historians found this point in recent years.
It can be seen that India can’t stay away from Britain.they will lose ability to distinguish right from wrong without the help of Britain. They have time to regret now😂
The creation of India's borders was complex and led to major issues that persist to this day. Sir Henry McMahon, on the British side, drew the McMahon Line, which is supposed to separate India from China. However, this line is not recognized by China, yet India uses it to claim territories that are under dispute. Moreover, when India and Pakistan were divided in 1947, the borders were hastily drawn by Sir Cyril Radcliffe, which led to further conflicts, especially over the region of Kashmir. The actions of these individuals during the British colonial period have repercussions even today. It's crucial to remember our history and seek peaceful and fair solutions to these territorial disputes.
The days of the West meddling are gone. Post Iraq and Afghanistan, we have no authority. Now we can't say what a male and female is in our own species, we're a joke. Every border was drawn by humans. Most have disgruntled humans on either side. It's moral vanity to play saviour. You're irrelevant.
I will go further. If you call your resolution to the border issue a "Forward Policy", you are the aggressor, full stop. The reason why there is a border issue is due to the attempted expansion of the British Raj into Tibet and Xinjiang. Of course, many are under the impression that it was somehow the Chinese engaging in expansion at the area when the reverse is true. Another reason is that the Indian Republic for some reason wanted to inherit that colonial policy. India is obviously the aggressor here because it called its border policy the "Forward Policy"! Just push the borders further forward, be half hearted in resolving things peacefully and expect the Chinese not to react. As seen from the clashes at 2020, India has learnt nothing and wants to continue from Nehru's mistakes.
after new China established in 1949. China got three important battles, the most difficult and tough one was Korea battle, the opponent was USA supported South Korea. the easiest one battle for China was india, I watched some documentaries and some Chinese soldiers who participated in the China Indian border war said that fighting the Indian army was much easier than they imagined
I don't know why would they think they won the war,they should feel ashamed for breaking trust. It was easy because china backstabbed india. India and China were almost equal militarily and economically, actually I would even say India had a better hand, china won only because, china attacked india,, when india wasn't expecting a "friendly china" to be offensive. At least we got a lesson to not trust any country on world stage.
My state of Arunachal Pradesh was one of the main battlefields of this war, Indian army was beaten because many troops that came here were from the plains unused to mountain terrain and low oxygen at heights, bad logistics meant they were ill equipped for harsh temperatures and low on food/ammo. The chinese ususally bypassed strong positions and cut off the supply lines regulary out maneuvering Indian positions. Our soldiers fought valiantly with many stories of indivdual last stands against overwhelming odds but ultimately were beaten . Our leadership(both civilian and military) severly underestimated the chinese who had much experience fighting in mountains with veteran troops from Korean conflict.
another thing is to consider is when the Chinese state in this iteration goes to war a lot of troops are in the rural west and up North (this is a generalization and certainly *NOT always* true), so the recruitment base is also slanted to favor mountain training and peripheral defense
@@明明-t9c still cant beat the peaks of himalays mountains . Stupido chinese bots 😂😂😂😂 Mt everest is the highest peak on earth not korean mountains . And btw korean isnt mountain terrain its elevated peninsula . Get your geography fact checked right . 😂😂😂
There is nothing sad about this. The Chinese army also defeated the British in Korea. The British can do nothing about it, and India does not need to be ashamed.
As an Indian I'm very happy to see wars (that on a global stage, were rather "insignificant"), I'd certainly like to see a video on the 1971 Bangladesh Liberation War which I feel is very overshadowed due to the Cold War, but many forget that south Asia was one of the fronts- especially since the Soviets sent their nuclear submarine and the Americans their nuclear carrier into the Bay of Bengal.
1960s decade was decade of wars and conflicts for India 1961: liberation of goa from Portugal 1962: sino india war 1965: second india pak war 1967: china india skirmishes 1971 : India Pakistan war
Chinese and Indians engaged in warfare reminiscent of ancient civilizations, with a strong emphasis on honor and respect for prisoners of war on both sides. This stands in stark contrast to the actions of Jihadists, Japanese, and Western imperialists. China demonstrated its military might, compelling India to modernize its armed forces, which in turn enabled India to successfully counter Pakistan's misadventures in 1965 and ultimately led to the events of 1971. Overall, it was a win-win situation for both countries involved, in my opinion
@@thebestevertherewas well Chinese conflicts always gave a gud lesson Galwan clashes taught us need of being self sufficient in terms of all products rather than importing from China Nothing to learn from Pakistan bcoz they don't have any shame Wherever they see our back they will stab all we need to do is reply in same manner
A powerful country is always standing behind all of us though she is not that perfect with the problems such as corruption, democracy. However, I firmly believe that she will be better and better.
এটা কি আপনার স্বৈরাচার দ্বারা আপনাকে খাওয়ানো প্রোপাগান্ডা? নেহেরু যখন সাম্রাজ্যবাদের বিরুদ্ধে একটি এশীয় জোট গড়ে তোলার চেষ্টা করছিলেন তখন মাও কাপুরুষোচিত আক্রমণ শুরু করেছিলেন। ভারতীয় সেনাবাহিনী আর কখনও একই ভুলের পুনরাবৃত্তি করেনি, নাথু লা এবং চো লা সংঘর্ষের সময় পিএলএ শূকররা তাদের করুণ জীবনের জন্য পালিয়ে গিয়েছিল। 😂
I'm so happy that you covered this event as my grandfather was there in gorkha army and he always tells me his story and now I know how it happened thank you.
Other wars that would be nice for you to cover are: Libya - Chad wars Ethiopia - Eritia war Peruvian war of 1995 Vietnam - Chinese war of the 1970s or 1980s where China invaded Vietnam
Fun fact: China once suggested to India, through Zhou Enlai, that China and India could swap South Tibet with Aksai Chin in order to avoid conflict. Nehru rejected this idea on the grounds that India is entitled to all British possession in India. Even though the British themselves didn't officially recognise the McMahon Line as the border with China
To everyone who's reading this comment and saying what a stupid move by nehru What this guy and the Chinese mean by South Tibet is almost a whole state in India called arunachal pradesh How the hell was he supposed to trade a full state with a place that's barren inhabited to almost every inch Classic Chinese propaganda
I think this video favoured Indian viewers more coz it doesn't cover CCP's warning to "withdraw troops or bear all consequences", which was the most serious diplomatic statement already. The most important incident- Zhou Enlai's visit to India in 1960, which is now considered the turning point and eventually resulted in war 1962, is not mentioned. What Zhou said in India is thoroughly recorded and interpreted in English can be found online. Another person worth mentioning is India's Defence Minister V.K. Krishna Menon at that time. Menon's meetings with China's foreign minister Chen Yi and Zhou Enlai failed to reach its purpose to reach peace and ease tension. Ironically, he was the person worsen the situation and led India unprepared for war as India's Defence Minister. Before the attack, China was trying all its means to address the serious consequences and Zhou's visit was last hope to use diplomatic means to solve the tension. China was very surprised that India wasn't very well prepared for military conflicts during the attack. I hope both sides learn history as lesson and try their best to avoid wars to come.
Krishna Menon was the reason India was forbade to prepare, Nehru and Krishna Menon both considered Xàina to be an ally as a fellow Soviet Sympathisers in the east, both of them though weren't cómmunísts exactly but they did despise càpitàlism and nations that accepted capitalis ideas, with no history of any conflict between both the ancient civilizations who had been welcoming traders from either sides since ancient times Nehru never actually saw a wàr coming, furthermore Mao Zedong's primary intention for waging a wàr(which btw it wasn't, it was just a blitzkrieg on Aksai chín with ridiculously large force of 80K soldiers against a scattered 20K across the border) was to tarnish Nehru and consequently India's image on global scale as a major geopolitical player which they were quite successful at after the wàr And warning to face consequences doesn't justify the attack on another democracy, especially when it's just not us alleging Xaìnese to have expansionist imperialist motive, nobody wants a wàr but actually executing such feel good ideas like showering flowers and exchanging sweets with those who consistently encroach on yóur land is pretty hard to do when yóu don't live there
@@adrianbelko7683 It is pretty much a one sided claim to claim encroachment on your land when the other side claims it as well and it is interpreted in the same manner. The channel overall does favor against the Chinese perspective of historical events which is understandable (the majority of sources available in the West is the Indian perspective). If you would search up the Chinese perspective, it vastly contradicts the Indian perspective and the Indian perspective vastly contradicts the Chinese perspective. Neither are correct in their and either are wrong, the conflict is in border interests and not in humanitarian interests therefore morals can't quite applied.
@@adrianbelko7683 Like I said, the reasoning phrase and explaining phrase had been repeatedly and thoroughly done in India in front of Menon and Nehru by Zhou's visit.Differences remained and it wasn't successful for both sides(All contents available online in English). Both sides made diplomatic threats and statements. The border differences were made during British occupation, while China had been having regimes change. Thus, no written documents and formal agreement were made. I don't think it is acceptable to invite some (Tibet, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Taiwan etc) representatives to form an agreement and inform another domestic regime/government that the border has been re-arranged. If one has determined to do so, plz at least consider the livelihood of your citizens/soldiers and deter its enemies from attacking.
China though that India is creating instability in Tibet with the help of USA when in fact USA was using Pakistani territory to create instability in China.
Anecdote from the Chinese side: A squad of 3 Chinese soldiers charged 8 km behind Indian lines and took down 2 artillery positions guarded by 1st and 2nd Sikh battalion of the Indian elite 4th Infantry Division - an enemy dozens time their number. In the after-action report, the squad leader famously commented on thr Sikh’s bravery: “敌人非但不投降，还胆敢向我还击” (Instead of surrendering on sight, the enemy actually dared to shoot back). They were clearly too used to other Indian units’ lackluster resistance and were pleasantly surprised by the Sikhs. Squadleader’s name is Pang Guoxing, if you want to look him up 😅
@@ashishhembrom3905 they pushed a little too aggressively and out paced other units. It was night time so they lost contact with the main force. Then they decided to go big or go home (ended up doing both).
You show an Indian soldier wielding the FN-FAL SLR - our boys fought with WW1 vintage .303s. This wasn't a part of the IA up until '64 or '65. Ironically this is one of those changes that came to be because of this debacle. Overall great video. Excellent animation.
Yap the iconic SLR was issued only from late 60s-70s we were using the leftover Enfield 303 and Sten gun Tommy guns often only used by officers and for SAW we had the bulky 20 round British made BREN .
Seems like both countries were very much not wanting a full war and even kept their behavior under control. Such interesting piece of forgotten history.
Chinese and Indians fought how ancient Civilizations used to fight. With Honour and respect for POW's on both sides, Unlike the Jihadists, and the Japanese and Western imperialists. China showed its strength, which forced India to modernize its Military, enabling it to thwart Pakistan's misadventures in 65 and ultimately led to 71. A win-win IMO for both sides involved.
Wars are usually started with one side making gross underestimations of the other side such as “fire a few shots they will run away”, “Kick the door down off this rotten edifice and the rest will crumble.” Or “we can conquer them in 3 months”. History is full of such examples. Never underestimate someone’s will to defend their homes.
Im really thankful to you for covering such lesser known aspects of history, but let me tell you that in India it is a much known conflict and very few know about the Cuban Missile Crisis here. Also I really like all the efforts, especially the beautiful animation and the great puns, keep going bro, we all will support you always.
The effort put into these videos is amazing. What’s even better about the videos is the historical content that is not so know. Could you perhaps do a video about the Invasion of Czechoslovakia by Warsaw pact which was overshadowed by Vietnam war ?
Mao Zedong once said, "I've been thinking for three days and three nights, and I don't understand why India did this (launching military operations)." At that time, India was a friendly country of China
With the tiny brain of Mao Zedong he of course couldn't comprehend the seven-thousand-year old wizdom of India and her great people. Only you Chinese would take the craziest murderer in human history as your "great leader" and father of the state.
@@happyskippy It's okay. Indian wisdom knows there are better days ahead. India has seen it all and still survived for thousands and thousands of years.
He was lying like xi is lying today. Chineese started the agression. Nehru had a Tip that China is going to attack but he laughed why would china attack. We don't have any kind of enmity. But he was wrong.
The 1960s in India would be one of the most traumatic decades. Following the 1962 war, Prime Minister Nehru died. The new Prime Minister Lal Bahadur Shastri found himself leading the country defending itself in another war which broke out with Pakistan in 1965. Prime Minister Shastri expired in Tashkent after signing the Tashkent agreement which ended the war. The country would suffer a famine as well in the same decade.
If Chairman Mao did not withdraw his Troops in 1962..Half of Arunachal Pradesh province would have been under China and we who are now in Arunachal Pradesh would have been under Chairman Xi Xinping 😅 The Chinese Army reached Tezpur in Assam in 1962..
Only God could've saved us that day and he damn sure did. India was at that time,an extremely poor nation which suffered a series of tragedies even after independence. So China defeating India was no suprise. China had the hand of USSR upon them for weapons and logistics.While India had nothing other than lend lease British world war 2 era weaponary for the Army's basic structure
@@NobleDorito8698 During this war the USSR actually help India more than China, and yet those Chinese atheists were still the stronger side in the war, even after the Cultural Revolution (when they destroy many temples, god statues and religions). If you really want to defend India you shouldn't say "Only God could've saved us that day", because in most time God didn't do that.
@@user-justsomeone There's a whole reasoning why the world's been a mess for a long time but that won't fit your brain. Secondly,you lack basic historical education about this whole war. The USSR helped no one,not even China,other than supplying them alotta weapons before the 1962 War happened due to which China was morbidly stronger and modernised in terms of Millitary as compared to India. Indian soldiers still used Lee Enfields and WW2 Era weaponary which were left as a founding junction for the Indian army by the British Empire. Even in 1965 War,India only had Lend Lease WW2 British Centurion tanks while Pakistan had all new American Patton tanks in mass production along with modern American weapons for their service. While all this was happening,India was still but slowly joining ties with USSR. That's why after 1969 Sino-Soviet Spilit,USSR replaced China with India as one of it's key allies and they gave us alot of modern weapons and equipment and hell lotta technology. They also gave us money which we thankfully invested in Economic and overall development of India rather than the army. This being the key reason for the Indian Army having old equipment for a long time while India still being a grand economy. Now,about atheists, don't bring and divert topics through that. It wasn't the "Chinese Atheists"that magically made the PLA win the war. It were the Wild Wartime leadership of Mao which he was explicitly good at since he was fighting in the Chinese warlord era since the 1920's Talk about God,as I said,theres a whole reasoning why humanity has been suffering constantly for a long time and that reason your brain cannot digest. Had it not been for God,there was no way India would've safely existed even after independence because of all the decade long tragedies that constantly took place in India.
India keep hating on the British for "causing" this conflict yet they're the ones recognizing the borders drawn by their colonial masters. Their hypocrisy is astounding
If you look at the peoples of Northeast India, you will know that those territories are not Indian territories at all. If they do not belong to China, at least they should be independent instead of being occupied by poor Indian imperialism.
Indica name was given by Greeks before Britishers and there was the concept of Hindusthan or Bharatbharsh before. Though it's true that Pakistan's history is not before 1947.
@@orangutan4696When the British left, there wasn't any India either. Small Kingdoms were choosing to rule by themselves just like small Warlords in China. Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel brought all the small kingdoms together establishing Union of India i.e Bharat. Nepal, another small Hindu Kingdom was not colonised by Britishers. They could have with as well, but since they were colonised, their Monarchy had strong control on the public. Otherwise, it was a trend for hindus to finally come together to build what Ashoka Maurya once built.
India is a civilisation. Here activity prevailed when even Greece did not exist, when Rome was not thought of, when the very fathers of the modern Europeans lived in the forests and painted themselves blue.
My grandfather was too young for this one, but fought in the 1971 Indo Pak war. Our government made a series of bad decisions for this war, logistics were non existent...the soldiers fought on fistful of grains and even less bullets...God bless our soldiers
My granduncle served the Indian Army somewhere in the 60s. I’m not sure where he was during the Chinese invasion but he served in ‘65 and ‘71. He was very well respected of our family as we hardly have any members that served in the Army, especially defending our home state of Punjab. I wish I could talk to him but I was too young, he passed away in 2004. I agree that even if bad decisions were made by the government, we’ll make sure that the foreign enemies will pay a heavy price, for us Sikhs for example we had 20 men defending Bum La Pass against hundreds of soldiers. While the Chinese won, they payed the price of losing hundreds of men against our 20 defenders. I feel that every ethnic group no matter who are they and how alienated they are will have this pride of defending their homeland.
@@keiiryuu Anyone invading India is directly invading Bharat. That means Sri Lankans will be automatically at war with whoever is invading. Im Sri Lankan and ill die for India if it meant saving this sanskrutiya civilisation from outsiders. Because once India falls then SL will follow. We are all thats left of the unconverted Vedic civilisation..
@@keiiryuuFor the 1962 war, it does not matter who win, but you need know it is India provoke the military conflict. It could be solved if you did not build forts in the disputed area. And actually it is ridiculous for India to claim Aksin chin and South Tibet. These lands were stealed by British without agreement, and the residents of these lands at that time are Tibet rather than Indian. India should not claim these lands if it think itself as a country of the indian nation, as Tiebetan is not Indian and do not believe Hinduism. If india think it is a successor to british india, it also should hold a cautious attitude towards these lands as no agreement reached by Britain and previous Chinese government. And inadditional, the Tibetan local government also denied this agreement because Britain failed to let it independent from China.
British journalist Neville Maxwell's (author of India's China War) longstanding thesis that New Delhi initiated the Sino-Indian War, which occurred at the Himalayan border from 20 October to 21 November 1962.
This war was not a war of conquest. It was designed to teach India a lesson. When China destroyed the main force of India in the border area and the subsequent reinforcement, China declared the end of actions and retreated. China did the same thing in the border war with Vietnam. The West media often demonize China and bad-mouth the Chinese military. The biggest mistake India made was that they believed the West propaganda about China. China only stationed one field army in the entire Tibet. Only the border defense troops were involved in the fight. The lesson is: Underestimating China can be both deadly and humiliating.
@user-mm7zi4ue7d not long ago, a survey in India found that over 67% of Indians believed that they could win a border war against China. How could they possibly reach this conclusion were not they brainwashed by the news media? Even in your message you got many facts wrong. In 1962 the relationship between China and ussr already went sour. Both super powers at the time were on the side of India. The overall economy of India was stronger than China's. In fact, due to the failure of the great leap forward, there was widespread starvation in China. India was in a much better shape than China both internationally and domestically.
@user-mm7zi4ue7d Hot knowledge, starting in 1960 Sino-Soviet relations began to deteriorate, the Soviet Union began to gradually cancel and withdraw all kinds of assistance and experts to China.
Thx for all thoses brillant videos with oustanding narrative and animation, also i know you still don't do suggestion but yeah ww1 from belgian perspective would be brillant 🤩🤩🤩🤩
This conflict became one of the reasons for the Soviet-Chinese split, since the USSR supported India in this conflict, which China regarded as a betrayal.
Though the Sino-Soviet split probably started even earlier, in 1958, due to Krushchev's perceived abandonment of Stalinism by Mao. Not Communist enough, I guess. The US missed a main chance by not supporting India since Partition.
Go read Mr. Avtar Singh Bhasin book "Nehru, Tibet and China" or watch summaries of the book by watching podcasts on TH-cam featuring Mr. Bhasin, an Indian historian who spent years doing serious researches on Indian sources before writing his book. The titles of two of the podcasts are "India’s stand on China border irrational but Nehru’s handling was irresponsible" and." Book talk - Nehru, Tibet and China by Avtar Singh Bhasin". Note those words IRRATIONAL AND IRRESPONSIBLE. Warning: truth might be hard to handle.
"The Indian parliament announced a national emergency", it says all. India was in panic and begged help from USSR and USA. China was calm and merciful. India's problem is to always overestimate herself and underestimate China. Same thing is still happening now.
Don't know who was begging when some troops got beaten up from Galwan during 2020 border skirmishes. Your country donot have the courage to attack India and using this stupid reason of mercy. We know better how your Mao was merciful to your own people.
@@arpan9937 No the Indians escalated a minor clash by using heavy artillery, then immediately backed down and retreated when China threatened to use air cover to further escalate.
as a chinese,I think it is better not to compare, China is far behind the Uninted States,China`s military strength should be in the world`s sixth position , and only a developing country,people just working for food.I think the United States should pay more attention to india and South Korea,they are the Most powerful country over the world ,their devlepment is simply extraordinary. India in particular can now even be called the no.1 power in the universe and repalce the United States In a very short period of time ,the United States deeply underestimated their stength ,but as India`s neighbors we know how scary India is
as an Indian i know chinese products are best in universe, united states and western country just copy everything what chinese made, i ship of china is enough to destroy entire US navy, but chinese are humble and calm by not using its real power
Bcoz our then pm Nehru didn't believe in modernization of the army he had even thought of disbanding army in the 50s but our next PM lal bahadur shastri modernized our army bcoz of which we prevented Pakistan's invasion in 1965
@@joydip9044 We would have won if we went into Kashmir the same time China did in 1962 and taken back our Kashmir from Indian occupation. Biggest mistake of Ayub Khan was not go in when China engaged in 62.
@@driftmaniac689Funny you tried that several times after but you couldn't manage it. Because of your army's incompetency which continues till today. If you want your victory to be served onto plate when your enemy is week then you are the biggest coward. And what would you have done taking Kashmir starve them to death ? 💀🐷
pandat nero kept on fiddling indian flute... managed to loose 40K sq KM, new age fiddler wishva ka goo with it's boo has managed to loose further 4K sq KM to same antagonist china... so he proven to be real heir of pandat nero, more surprising is that india this time managed to loose without losing too many men... only 20 odd indians & they still managed to loose 4K sq KM. great saviour of indian men... mr chappan.... by this rate if india manages to save further 15K indian men, china will be bordering srilanka & there will never be any more need to save any more indians... 🤣🤣
@@sashabraus9422 it's quite rare, and large scale Xaìnese diaspora from Manchuria only arrived in India as settlers in 18-19th century, they all settled in West Bengal, that's what clicked in my mind while typing the above half of my comment, i know what that means
My grandfather participated in this war. He was one of the 20,000 members of the Liberation Army. The bullet hole from when he was shot is still there.
Actually many parts of india were not belonged to her before their British master came and invaded this land.....also Nepal was a part of tibet in Ching dynasty
In Arunachal Pradesh Jaswant Singh Rawat defended border single handedly with the help of local tribal girl. He tied lamp on the neck of sheeps which looked as if hundreds of indian army personnel r there
It's still a tense border to this day, as incidents in recent years have shown. This is why both sides agreed a while back to disarm their troops patrolling the border so that no shots can ring out and spark something more serious.
@@outofturn331 It is both politically dan militarily tense. iirc there were several cases of hand-to-hand fighting broken on the region in the last ten years, and it could've been a bigger diplomatic disaster had their respective government took a wrong turn during the incident. Kudos to each government for not going down that way
Like Ladakh and South Tibet (Arunachal Pradesh), Aksai Chin is traditional Tibetan territory and is part of China. But in 1865, just after the Second Opium War and the Taiping Rebellion, China was extremely weak, and the British colonist took advantage of the situation to further their invasion into Tibet. W.H. Johnson, an official of the British Survey of India, arbitrarily drew the "Johnson Line". It incorporated nearly 30,000 square kilometers of land, including Aksai Chin, into British India, turning Aksai Chin into British Indian Kashmir. The British authorities did not even notify the Chinese government of this unilateral demarcation, let alone request recognition. However, there had never been any signs of Indian occupation or symbol of sovereignty in Aksai Chin. In Nehru's own words, it was a barren and desolate land, "not even a blade of grass could grow." On the other hand, China resumed its control over the area since the founding of the PRC. When it started building roads connecting Xinjiang and Tibet in the 1950s and continued until the end, India was not even aware of it. From any perspective Aksai Chin has never been a part of India.
Wow. Your channel is a hidden gem. How come I wasn't aware of its existence till date. Beautiful storytelling. No doubt why you have over 2M followers.
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The Chinese army was simply more experienced and better led than the Indians. China had just fought a Civil War, stalemated the US/UN coalition in Korea, and conquered Tibet. Most of the Chinese troops were also used to the high altitude due to their time in Tibet. Meanwhile the Indians mainly dealt with disputes with Pakistan, so their best troops were also near the Pakistani border. This was the geopolitical equivalent to a teenager sucker punching a baby.
Nope the indian army was a 100 times more experienced. The only reason we lost was we had lack of advanced weapons and at that time only 1% of our GDP was spent on military while Mao had 4.2 million men in army and had done advancements. I don't know about indian army numbers at that time but I do know that in British Era there was 2.5 million men serving in army in WW2. Before leaving the British demobilized troops which was reduced to 350000 and to divided between india and Pakistan and also politicians did not do much for military. Otherwise indian armed forces are experienced. It's 1962 we lost. But just 3 yrs later we defeated Pakistan in 1965.
@@donaldduck1322 I'm not comparing both here but if you remember Pakistan was a major threat at that time because they had at least 756 tanks, we had had 609. If I talk about the air force and artillery I don't remember the numbers but half of them were deployed at China front and we had almost all subsonic jets while Pakistan had supersonic jets like the starfighter and sabre 86... but we still defeated them. That's a huge improvement from 1962.
@@rishavjana2729nowadays China would steamroll India even harder. The economic/military gap is even larger. India needs to stay on its knees with its white masters to stay safe tbh.
@@rishavjana2729And you just completely ignored what he said. Chinese troops were more experienced having soldiers who fought against Japan, in the civil war, Korea, etc. and generals who were leading men since the 1920s. India was never properly invaded in full force by Imperial Japan, did not have a civil war in the 40s, and didn’t fight the United States in the 50s. And keep in mind China never had air superiority in any of these wars.
There's a small mistake in the animation, the Indian Army didn't have automatic small arms other than the light machine guns and a sprinkling of Thompson submachine guns and Sten guns during the war. One of the reasons why the Indian forward posts were overrun was that Indian soldiers had to fight Chinese soldiers wielding AK47 with Lee Enfield bolt action rifles. It was only in the aftermath of the war that the Indian govt replaced bolt action rifles with the British SLR, a license made FN FAL that is shown in the animation.
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Impressive video, I am particularly fascinated by the diplomatic relationship the British Raj had with Tibet at that time, as you may already know throughout the 19th and early 20th centuries, several English diplomats were sent to negotiate and consolidate their central Asian expansionism. One such case was the travels of Younghusband to llhasa which he made a book about. The cadastral boundaries of both the NWFP and the area of gilgit baltistan are contentious to say the least. The preceding boundaries stipulated by the British was the Johnson line proposed in the mid 19 century named after the British civil servant, Johnson. Quite a many conferences were held between the British and the qing on deciding this matter like the peking (1906, i believe) and shofuu conventions.
Some inaccuracies in this vid: - 1914 Shimla Convention was a tri-party meeting between Britain, China and Tibet. British recognized Chinese rule over Tibet. - Border agreement wasn't ratified at Shimla, China refused to sign off and British didn't pursue further claim. Neither did British claim western sector Aksai Chin (Where Chinese built highway) - 40yrs later in 1951, newly independent India sent troops to occupy McMahon Line, and went beyond the line. India wanted to carve out Tibet as a buffer state, supported Tibetan revolt. India gave Jenkhentsisum a military base in Kalimpong, W. Bengal. Dispute is entirely India's own doing. Source: India's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible: Avtar Singh Bhasin
This TH-camr here is just trying to catch flame by naming the title as china war against India while it should India war against china. lol. If china do not have the humane approach with peace and equal proverty in mind. Would they have withdrawn and let India come back again in 1964 and again with the border harassment and lot of bullshitting again and again. Lol
Fun fact: China proposed to India multiple times to settle their disputes over South Tibet and Ladakh at the International Court of Justice. But India refused (actually, India never replied). Many experts believe the reason is simple, India doesn't have a case to defend their claims to Ladakh and South Tibet. This is all due to the fact that though British India used the McMahon Line as the de facto border between British India and China, the British Colonial Office in London never recognised the legitimacy of the McMahon Line signed between British India and Tibet, which they viewed as part of China
@@wonderworld7721 In his book titled "Nehru Tibet and China", Avtar Singh Bhasin. an Indian historian emphasizes that before undertaking negotiations to resolve the border issues the Indian public have to be educated of what exactly went on during those years from 1949 to the Indo-China war in 1962 lest PM Modi gets accused for giving away land to China. For those interested in knowing a version of history that differs from mainstream that pushes ideas like Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai; betrayal of Nehru by Mao; and stabbed at the back by China, pls watch podcasts on TH-cam featuring Mr. Bhasin. The titles of two of the podcasts are "India’s stand on China border irrational but Nehru’s handling was irresponsible" and." Book talk - Nehru, Tibet and China by Avtar Singh Bhasin".. Note those words IRRATIONAL AND IRRESPONSIBLE. And I'm certain that Mr. Bhasin is neither a com nor pro China.
As a (self described) history buff, I love your content. I also vicariously live through you, as I wish I had chosen my passion as my career path. Long live T.A.H!
You should do one about my people, The Hmong tribes that fought for the CIA in the secret war against communist Laos and Vietnam in 1970s lead by Gen Vang Pao.
Thank you for the unbiased view on this conflict, my only criticism is that at 10:36 the Chinese soldier has an RPK-74 which is inaccurate because China never had RPKs until the Type 81.
I didn’t know that india was still using enfields as their standard issue rifle in the early 60s, and ww2 era weaponry in general, they weren’t in good shape were they?
@@alaskanbullworm5500 Our Economy was devastated by Britian and we couldn't recover fast. Much of our population was uneducated (unfortunately) and we had no money to Modernise our army much. We asked for help from the US but they simply said that India was not being tough enough on communism that's why the US will not help her. The Soviets decided to stay neutral as China was also their Ally. With nobody to help,and as we were extremely poor even at that time and there was a lack of modern weaponary,we were doomed and finally,China took parts of our land defeating us
@@samanyupalthi I can understand indias government not wanting to get directly involved from a geopolitical standpoint(india has a delicate balance of western support for business interests and Russian support for defense against China/pakistan), though I can’t say I’m sympathetic to the average Indian view of supporting Russia invading ukraine because of Russia supporting them in the past/anti west resentment. geopolitics change.
Thank you so much for making this video. Bring an Indian myself, I never had a clear idea of this conflict. We're hardly taught in school of any historical events past world war and Indian independence . And most of the tales we hear about this war are factless
you guys lost, of course they are not gonna teach you any of it. Just like how Japan have state written history books where they were just having a picnic in asia and then the US nuked them.
@jokanxu730well we did but what you wrote is still wrong. The 1971 war was won and it's still isn't taught much like others coz it happened after independence
After the war we started rearming ourselves. We started persuing nuclear ambition. Research and analysis wing(R&AW Indias external intelligence agency. Previously Indias internal amd external intelligence was handled by IB intelligence beaurau) was established. There was change of leadership, 1962 war taught India a lot of valuable lessons. Lessons came handy during 1971 Bangladesh liberation war.
India not underestimate but wanted to have a helping hand towards the newly liberated china but china knew nehru was a bit too kind to them starving for friendship with unknown neighbors but china was looking just seeing for its own interests and surprisingly they betrayed our government too earlier than they could thought of it.
@jacksmith6015 it's not that easy now India is modernising it's military and becoming self reliant in every sector we know it will take time but soon Bharath will emerge as a global power not for its interest but to help the weak nations of Africa,south America and many unknown islands who still have old type colonial mentality and respect towards their colonisers Bharath 🇮🇳 will help them to get out of that slave mentality which was imposed on their educations, factories labours, mining labours and from every field the materials which are in high demand and interest of their past invaded country.
So many inaccuracies, China was invited to 1914 Shimla Convention, it was a tri-party meeting between Britain, China and Tibet. (British recognized Chinese rule over Tibet) Border agreement wasn't ratified at the meeting, China refused to sign off. And British didn't pursue further claim. Neither did British claim western sector Aksai Chin (Where Chinese built highway) 40yrs later in 1951, newly independent India sent troops to take McMahon Line, and went beyond the line. India wanted to carve out Tibet as a buffer state under its influence. Supported Tibetan uprising, provided them a base in Kalimpong, West Bengal. Dispute is entirely India's own doing. Indian govt historian bare it all. TH-cam video, India's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible: Avtar Singh Bhasin
For China they just wanted to teach India a lesson, China doesn’t consider India as an enemy. Although China and India are neighbors but they are two different worlds in every aspect. But China won’t accept any Indian influence on Tibet, that’s what made China angry on India.
@@hmstransit909 Then tell your stupid Modi to stop rejecting the Chinese Yuan in BRICS and trespassing Chinese territory. India is more of a hindrance than anything.
India wanted Tibet, if not carve out Tibet a buffer state under its influence. Nehru supported Tibetan uprising, despite British recognized Tibet as China. Now, Imagine China did the same to Northeast states wanting independence ? How would India react?
During the Korean War in 1951, the Chinese defeated the 17-nation coalition forces led by the United States and wiped out 250,000 Americans and 60,000 coalition forces from various countries. China lost more than 300,000 people. This is recorded in the history of war. At that time, it directly entered today's Seoul, the capital of South Korea. Having beaten Vietnam into Hanoi in 1979, India need not feel depressed.
Hanoi beat China? Are you serious? When the French colonists and American colonists were about to occupy the whole of Vietnam, the Chinese Communist Party did not send instructors to train your army and provide materials. Vietnam may now be a capitalist country, and American troops are stationed!
Indian always blame their failure due to too many Chinese soldiers, while they never think about if the Chinese troop can defeat USA, how can India win this army, that's why Mao Ze Dong can not figure it out. Can you figure it out?
In 1979, China only managed to capture Lang Son, which was about 23 km from Chinese border and 150 km from Hanoi, after 2 weeks of combat against local militia. During the whole 2 weeks campaign, China estimated that it had lost 10% of armour vehicles (Reality was much worse) The Vietnamese did not even pull their troops out of Cambodia until 10 years later when China’s ally Khmer Rouge had no real power left.
I'm actually very surprised how. you create these detailed videos of so many different countries and I'm from India and I tell you that you know more about this war in 1962 than a lot of other Indians know and actually have to compliment you for doing such a nice research and creating this video
Chinese always get victories and territories while Americans Koreans Vietnamese Indian Filipinos always claim that they inflict heavy casualties on Chinese...🤣
Can you please make a video about Italy East Africa campaign.During World War 2 Italy conquered British-Samoliland and Frensh-Samoliland.Then they attacked Sudan and Kenya and conquered large areas.Italy was more succesful there.
I never knew both India and china have never declared war on each other 😊, Even in war we maintained diplomatic relations. I hope peace prevails between us 🕊️
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May you do video on yugoslav wars from all prespeectives?
Jesus loves you ❤️ please turn to him and repent before it's too late. The end times described in the Bible are already happening in the world.
@@L17_8 What is Jesus going to do for you?? Repent to the creator, not the creation.
I love how y’all are covering less known wars like this. I would love to see you guys cover the Chinese-Vietnam wars in the 1970’s after America withdrew because I haven’t seen anyone cover it on TH-cam
Would love to see that as well.
That's an amazing idea
Agreed
@@Layth09 yeah it’s wild how those wars are not covered here, they were really pivotal in creating US-Vietnam relations today I think
I've only ever seen a small channel slightly dabble on it and I've been addicted to see more on it. It's such a cool concept and I'm surprised no one's capitalizing on it
The sheer amount of conflicts caused by arbitrary lines drawn on maps by British and French authorities is quite extensive.
It was the fault of China. Britishers sent a proposal to Qing rulers of china but they never replied anything so it was accepted by default.
@@Satadru-z9z Qing were terrible rulers. When the government switched, the British never came back to re-negotiate with the new administration.
@@RedOctober_ It is the responsibility of the new govt to check the pending issues from long, the other party can't send proposal each time a govt changes.
@@Satadru-z9z😂 They want to carve up your country and you just accept the "proposal" as it is? Indian nationalists are so funny.
@@Satadru-z9zdidn’t think accepting by default was customary 😂
Even in India we aren't taught much about post independence history, it's nice to see foreign creators shedding some much needed light onto our post independence history
In cbse they don't but in my maharashtra board they did!
Lol yeah you guys dont like thinking about all the losses you sustained
@@scholaroftheworldalternatehist It's widely known in India that we lost this war. This isn’t China.
I guess that's fair. You all have 5000 years to cover anyway.
@@scholaroftheworldalternatehistoh, we remember and we don't forget. It's not something that needs teaching. The betrayal is well known. How india didn't cross the border to take the fight back. It's well known in India.
My grandpa fought in this war. He was captured by the Chinese but they didn’t execute him as they found a picture of my mom in his pocket and let him go home.
Neither of China and India should be victim of British colonialism
I am surprised that China was actually humane those times. If it was now he would have been executed for sure
将来要是打起来别怕。中国优待俘虏😂
Your grandpa was released not because of that picture. PLA well treated all captives and released them.
So many wumaos in the replies
My grandfather served in this war in the Assam region. He was an engineer, and while the Chinese were close to Tezpur, he and a soldier laid a communication line through a forest leading towards Arunachal. He died before I was born otherwise I would have asked him to relate all his experiences.
His brother remembers some things but he is losing his memories.
I know a lot of Indians will not agree, but I personally think China took a very measured response to the developments that had taken place in our history. Even at war they were humane.
It's good to see some positive attitude from the other side of the border. Otherwise, the vast majority of indian hate Chinese and Pakistanis.
非常高兴看到有正视历史的印度朋友😁
Explain humane?
@@karandullet380 I just want to say that I agree with the humanity that this friend said, unlike some comments I saw before, who said that the Chinese are like devils
@@karandullet380 And thanks for all the lies and hatred, one day you will taste it in full! hahahahaha
Nice to see you cover this lesser known conflict, another overshadowed war is the DMZ conflict aka the 2nd Korean War from 1966-1969
never heard of this DMZ conflict, thanks for sharing
@@Samuel99173 you’re welcome! It’s usually overshadowed by the Vietnam War and could have erupted into a full on 2nd Korean War if Vietnam wasn’t happening at the same time
Love that you've finally covered this lesser know conflict. It's shaped an entire generation of military and defence policy for both countries. Much there for the world to learn from. Cheers
This host is talking nonsense, and he is talking nonsense here with a little knowledge. Look at the American "Christian Science Monitor" saying that China "won the war as easily as a knife cut butter"
not both countries, just India😂
@@theinternationale-us2wcyeah, but china also got a bloody nose in the 1967 conflict
He only covers what is at his best interest right now, which is to destabilize the India/China relation. His version of history is full of bias view and depicts China as scare to America supporting India, that is why the Chinese retreated during the short conflict, which is also created by the British Rai when they invaded India, as well as China.
tldr: British drew a line without consulting the Chinese then left the game. Indians believed in that line, the Chinese obviously didn't. Then there was a war.
That is actually not true. The CCP was willing to concede along the MacMahon alignment but India refused because it also wants Aksai Chin. India also start physically intruded into area north of the MacMahon line.
Now lemme explain it
Simla convention had been signed between the British India and Tibbet in 1914, China had no locus standi over any agreements which were being signed between Britsh India and the independent state of Tibet,
China had also occupied Kashmir lands in the year 1963,from Pakistan without consulting Indians according to an agreement, since India had never recognised Pakistan's control over the parts of Kashmir, by doing this China voilated the Indian intergrity over Kashmir, if China could dare to provoke India by illegally occupying Kashmir lands from Pakistan than India would surely retaliate, China initially hadissues over the MacMohan line but China never had any issue in the Jhonson line, this issue was created just after when India hsd supported Tibet and Dalai Lama against China, China had used and is still using border issues as a political tool against it's agenda, India's claims over the macmohan line are quite valid as well,
It was,China had voilated the panchsheel agreemnet between India and China,
China had voilated the Tibbetan uprising of 1959
China had compeled India to launch a forward policy against them,
If it wasn't for China's obsession with the MacMohan line and later wiyh Jhonson line as wlel, then there would have been no war
India does not believe in this line, but this line is in favor of India
@@PomegranateChocolateyess .. cos ccp didn't want conflict.. so they proposed solution where both sides agrees to the defacto border or status quo to be permanent border. But india refused .
@@Tamerlane33You clowns do realise that china has border disputes even with countries it doesn't share a border with? How idiotic are you people? There was No PRC when India got independence. CCP illegally occupied Tibet and started pressing India as well, you seriously need to read Non propaganda source of history mate
The farthest Chinese army attack on the eastern front of the Sino-Indian border reached the outskirts of Tespur, but did not enter the city. According to the memories of some veterans, they were stationed near the railway line of Tespur. After a while, the Chinese army received a message from Beijing. The order required them all to retreat and reach the stop line. During this period, the Chinese army did not suffer any pursuit.
@@ratuldey4031 well the next war will probably be nuclear and all sides will collapse
@@ratuldey4031no we aren't you don't know a thing about the current situation do you?
@@Harsh_sikarwar.bro is wishing for a nuclear holocaust 😭
@@ratuldey4031Mate, as you long, YOU are ready to fight in the frontlines. Go ahead
If not, don't send innocents to die for your cause while you sit at home
@@ratuldey4031no india and china nowadays are diff weight class, india is not ready
China won the war with India but they didn't occupy any land there. The UK occupied India for a long time, when they left they drew a new map saying part of China's land belongs to India, that is why the conflict between India and China can not be resolved.
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There was no “McMahon line” in original agreement. However, British rewrote it by adding McMahon line in British documents which means even Tibet did not sign an agreement including McMahon line. Historians found this point in recent years.
*FREE TIBET, chinese GO BACK*
You can call it Tibetan land too but never chinese
It can be seen that India can’t stay away from Britain.they will lose ability to distinguish right from wrong without the help of Britain. They have time to regret now😂
The creation of India's borders was complex and led to major issues that persist to this day. Sir Henry McMahon, on the British side, drew the McMahon Line, which is supposed to separate India from China. However, this line is not recognized by China, yet India uses it to claim territories that are under dispute. Moreover, when India and Pakistan were divided in 1947, the borders were hastily drawn by Sir Cyril Radcliffe, which led to further conflicts, especially over the region of Kashmir. The actions of these individuals during the British colonial period have repercussions even today. It's crucial to remember our history and seek peaceful and fair solutions to these territorial disputes.
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The days of the West meddling are gone. Post Iraq and Afghanistan, we have no authority. Now we can't say what a male and female is in our own species, we're a joke.
Every border was drawn by humans. Most have disgruntled humans on either side.
It's moral vanity to play saviour. You're irrelevant.
I will go further. If you call your resolution to the border issue a "Forward Policy", you are the aggressor, full stop.
The reason why there is a border issue is due to the attempted expansion of the British Raj into Tibet and Xinjiang. Of course, many are under the impression that it was somehow the Chinese engaging in expansion at the area when the reverse is true.
Another reason is that the Indian Republic for some reason wanted to inherit that colonial policy. India is obviously the aggressor here because it called its border policy the "Forward Policy"! Just push the borders further forward, be half hearted in resolving things peacefully and expect the Chinese not to react.
As seen from the clashes at 2020, India has learnt nothing and wants to continue from Nehru's mistakes.
Tibet, the agreement was between independent Tibet and British India. China's claim is because they took over to Tibet.
@@cecaloather8701 what an immature conclusion. They called it forward policy so they must be the agressors..
Nincompoop westener
after new China established in 1949. China got three important battles, the most difficult and tough one was Korea battle, the opponent was USA supported South Korea. the easiest one battle for China was india, I watched some documentaries and some Chinese soldiers who participated in the China Indian border war said that fighting the Indian army was much easier than they imagined
Korea War, Vietnam War, India War, impacts to Asian history by priority.
I don't know why would they think they won the war,they should feel ashamed for breaking trust. It was easy because china backstabbed india. India and China were almost equal militarily and economically, actually I would even say India had a better hand, china won only because, china attacked india,, when india wasn't expecting a "friendly china" to be offensive. At least we got a lesson to not trust any country on world stage.
Obviously.. Fighting an unprepared enemy will be easier.. Maybe Vietnam had a hint..
Didn't they tell about 1967 conflict 😅
@@badlav120 😂
My state of Arunachal Pradesh was one of the main battlefields of this war, Indian army was beaten because many troops that came here were from the plains unused to mountain terrain and low oxygen at heights, bad logistics meant they were ill equipped for harsh temperatures and low on food/ammo. The chinese ususally bypassed strong positions and cut off the supply lines regulary out maneuvering Indian positions. Our soldiers fought valiantly with many stories of indivdual last stands against overwhelming odds but ultimately were beaten . Our leadership(both civilian and military) severly underestimated the chinese who had much experience fighting in mountains with veteran troops from Korean conflict.
another thing is to consider is when the Chinese state in this iteration goes to war a lot of troops are in the rural west and up North (this is a generalization and certainly *NOT always* true), so the recruitment base is also slanted to favor mountain training and peripheral defense
hahahahahaha 你知道朝鲜半岛的山海拔多高吗？
@@明明-t9c still cant beat the peaks of himalays mountains . Stupido chinese bots 😂😂😂😂
Mt everest is the highest peak on earth not korean mountains .
And btw korean isnt mountain terrain its elevated peninsula . Get your geography fact checked right . 😂😂😂
To summarize, the Indians got their butts kicked.
There is nothing sad about this. The Chinese army also defeated the British in Korea. The British can do nothing about it, and India does not need to be ashamed.
As an Indian I'm very happy to see wars (that on a global stage, were rather "insignificant"), I'd certainly like to see a video on the 1971 Bangladesh Liberation War which I feel is very overshadowed due to the Cold War, but many forget that south Asia was one of the fronts- especially since the Soviets sent their nuclear submarine and the Americans their nuclear carrier into the Bay of Bengal.
1967 Indo china war too
@@ajaypal14121 dude do you know the difference between war and skirmish?
@@unconscious1076 yeah ik it was 3 day battle sorry to say war and skirmish don't last that long with casualties more than 500 overall
@@unconscious10762020 was a skirmish. 1962 and 67 were not
@@ajaypal14121 i mean i wouldnt call it a war but yeah
1960s decade was decade of wars and conflicts for India
1961: liberation of goa from Portugal
1962: sino india war
1965: second india pak war
1967: china india skirmishes
1971 : India Pakistan war
定好的边界，只要你们印度别偷摸的天天搞小动作，边境就什么事情都不会有，和越南一个样子，在我心里当时的印度人唯一比越南人好的是，没越过边境线在村子里杀人。不过中印边界除了边防军也没什么人倒是了。😅
Chinese and Indians engaged in warfare reminiscent of ancient civilizations, with a strong emphasis on honor and respect for prisoners of war on both sides. This stands in stark contrast to the actions of Jihadists, Japanese, and Western imperialists.
China demonstrated its military might, compelling India to modernize its armed forces, which in turn enabled India to successfully counter Pakistan's misadventures in 1965 and ultimately led to the events of 1971.
Overall, it was a win-win situation for both countries involved, in my opinion
@@thebestevertherewas well Chinese conflicts always gave a gud lesson
Galwan clashes taught us need of being self sufficient in terms of all products rather than importing from China
Nothing to learn from Pakistan bcoz they don't have any shame
Wherever they see our back they will stab all we need to do is reply in same manner
@@thebestevertherewas stop copy pasting your comment everywhere
@@shiyianbut he isn't speaking wrong..
这不得不说，是印度创造的一个奇迹，明明是对中国的侵略战，却被自己硬生生的打成了首都保卫战 😂
敌人非但不投降，还胆敢向我还击。
哈哈哈哈
A powerful country is always standing behind all of us though she is not that perfect with the problems such as corruption, democracy. However, I firmly believe that she will be better and better.
এটা কি আপনার স্বৈরাচার দ্বারা আপনাকে খাওয়ানো প্রোপাগান্ডা?
নেহেরু যখন সাম্রাজ্যবাদের বিরুদ্ধে একটি এশীয় জোট গড়ে তোলার চেষ্টা করছিলেন তখন মাও কাপুরুষোচিত আক্রমণ শুরু করেছিলেন।
ভারতীয় সেনাবাহিনী আর কখনও একই ভুলের পুনরাবৃত্তি করেনি, নাথু লা এবং চো লা সংঘর্ষের সময় পিএলএ শূকররা তাদের করুণ জীবনের জন্য পালিয়ে গিয়েছিল। 😂
@@Ianuuang哈哈哈哈哈哈
I'm so happy that you covered this event as my grandfather was there in gorkha army and he always tells me his story and now I know how it happened thank you.
Underrated channel, you guys deserve all the support and money you get.
This man does his research correctly and isn’t biased.
@JackSmith-mk1ru?
@JackSmith-mk1ruwhy
@@brennanleadbetter9708he's pro west
@@brennanleadbetter9708he is pro west where Russia is concerned
I like how you always like to do videos on lesser known and/or more obscure wars, they’re very interesting to learn about.
More coverage of these less covered conflicts is greatly appreciated. Crazy that this still brews on today.
Other wars that would be nice for you to cover are:
Libya - Chad wars
Ethiopia - Eritia war
Peruvian war of 1995
Vietnam - Chinese war of the 1970s or 1980s where China invaded Vietnam
Libya Chad wars, discovering that Toyota’s are immune to land mines if you go fast enough
@@novaexplorer2397 The guy that found that out was probably smoking meth.
I think any wars in South America, especially during the Interwar (like Chaco War) would also be interesting
You meant third indochina war?
The Mexican Revolution would be interesting
Fun fact: China once suggested to India, through Zhou Enlai, that China and India could swap South Tibet with Aksai Chin in order to avoid conflict. Nehru rejected this idea on the grounds that India is entitled to all British possession in India. Even though the British themselves didn't officially recognise the McMahon Line as the border with China
Is there anywhere we can read up more on this
L move what could have been solved peacefully led to so many people dying and the tarnishing of relationship between two neighboring countries
Typical Nehru blunder
To everyone who's reading this comment and saying what a stupid move by nehru
What this guy and the Chinese mean by South Tibet is almost a whole state in India called arunachal pradesh
How the hell was he supposed to trade a full state with a place that's barren inhabited to almost every inch
Classic Chinese propaganda
@@rudra5953 oh i am sorry i didn't know that and commented
I think this video favoured Indian viewers more coz it doesn't cover CCP's warning to "withdraw troops or bear all consequences", which was the most serious diplomatic statement already. The most important incident- Zhou Enlai's visit to India in 1960, which is now considered the turning point and eventually resulted in war 1962, is not mentioned. What Zhou said in India is thoroughly recorded and interpreted in English can be found online. Another person worth mentioning is India's Defence Minister V.K. Krishna Menon at that time. Menon's meetings with China's foreign minister Chen Yi and Zhou Enlai failed to reach its purpose to reach peace and ease tension. Ironically, he was the person worsen the situation and led India unprepared for war as India's Defence Minister. Before the attack, China was trying all its means to address the serious consequences and Zhou's visit was last hope to use diplomatic means to solve the tension. China was very surprised that India wasn't very well prepared for military conflicts during the attack. I hope both sides learn history as lesson and try their best to avoid wars to come.
Krishna Menon was the reason India was forbade to prepare, Nehru and Krishna Menon both considered Xàina to be an ally as a fellow Soviet Sympathisers in the east, both of them though weren't cómmunísts exactly but they did despise càpitàlism and nations that accepted capitalis ideas,
with no history of any conflict between both the ancient civilizations who had been welcoming traders from either sides since ancient times Nehru never actually saw a wàr coming, furthermore Mao Zedong's primary intention for waging a wàr(which btw it wasn't, it was just a blitzkrieg on Aksai chín with ridiculously large force of 80K soldiers against a scattered 20K across the border) was to tarnish Nehru and consequently India's image on global scale as a major geopolitical player which they were quite successful at after the wàr
And warning to face consequences doesn't justify the attack on another democracy, especially when it's just not us alleging Xaìnese to have expansionist imperialist motive, nobody wants a wàr but actually executing such feel good ideas like showering flowers and exchanging sweets with those who consistently encroach on yóur land is pretty hard to do when yóu don't live there
@JackSmith-mk1ru 🤣🤣🤣 chíng chàng hān chī getting triggered like crazy
@JackSmith-mk1ru chíng chàng hān chī, i use Lava's phone and yóu spread cóvīd19 🤣
@@adrianbelko7683 It is pretty much a one sided claim to claim encroachment on your land when the other side claims it as well and it is interpreted in the same manner. The channel overall does favor against the Chinese perspective of historical events which is understandable (the majority of sources available in the West is the Indian perspective). If you would search up the Chinese perspective, it vastly contradicts the Indian perspective and the Indian perspective vastly contradicts the Chinese perspective. Neither are correct in their and either are wrong, the conflict is in border interests and not in humanitarian interests therefore morals can't quite applied.
@@adrianbelko7683 Like I said, the reasoning phrase and explaining phrase had been repeatedly and thoroughly done in India in front of Menon and Nehru by Zhou's visit.Differences remained and it wasn't successful for both sides(All contents available online in English). Both sides made diplomatic threats and statements. The border differences were made during British occupation, while China had been having regimes change. Thus, no written documents and formal agreement were made. I don't think it is acceptable to invite some (Tibet, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Taiwan etc) representatives to form an agreement and inform another domestic regime/government that the border has been re-arranged. If one has determined to do so, plz at least consider the livelihood of your citizens/soldiers and deter its enemies from attacking.
I am a Chinese and I hope that the people of China and India can be friendly for generations! May world peace prevail.
China though that India is creating instability in Tibet with the help of USA when in fact USA was using Pakistani territory to create instability in China.
@@SunilMeena-do7xnChina also provides weapons to Pakistan. So we have no choice
India is not deserved to be a friend of China.
@@swastik6705Yes, you have no choice, you cannot defeat China, so you can only be angry but cannot do anything 😂😂😂😂
印度在这场战役损失了几个旅 还要一个王牌师 和平☮️从来都不是乞求而来 而是靠自己的实力
Anecdote from the Chinese side:
A squad of 3 Chinese soldiers charged 8 km behind Indian lines and took down 2 artillery positions guarded by 1st and 2nd Sikh battalion of the Indian elite 4th Infantry Division - an enemy dozens time their number.
In the after-action report, the squad leader famously commented on thr Sikh’s bravery: “敌人非但不投降，还胆敢向我还击” (Instead of surrendering on sight, the enemy actually dared to shoot back).
They were clearly too used to other Indian units’ lackluster resistance and were pleasantly surprised by the Sikhs.
Squadleader’s name is Pang Guoxing, if you want to look him up 😅
lets not start a youtube comment war with India lol
How on earth were Chinese outnumbered when the Chinese had the major numbers at the conflict? Lol.
There is no doubt that the Sikhs and Gurkhas are Indias best military units
@@ashishhembrom3905 they pushed a little too aggressively and out paced other units. It was night time so they lost contact with the main force. Then they decided to go big or go home (ended up doing both).
Chinese folk tales very imaginative but funny.
I’m loving this kind of content especially focusing on lesser known conflicts if only the TH-cam algorithm rewarded this kind of content
十四亿中国人知道 这不是少数人所知的战争
Please do a series of videos on the English Civil Wars. It's such a fascinating and complicated period in British history.
You show an Indian soldier wielding the FN-FAL SLR - our boys fought with WW1 vintage .303s. This wasn't a part of the IA up until '64 or '65. Ironically this is one of those changes that came to be because of this debacle. Overall great video. Excellent animation.
Yap the iconic SLR was issued only from late 60s-70s we were using the leftover Enfield 303 and Sten gun
Tommy guns often only used by officers and for SAW we had the bulky 20 round British made BREN .
This is literally more insightful than my own history class
Seems like both countries were very much not wanting a full war and even kept their behavior under control. Such interesting piece of forgotten history.
China and India had a mostly very peaceful history for thousands of years. British drawing random lines on the map caused so many wars in the worlds.
Chinese and Indians fought how ancient Civilizations used to fight.
With Honour and respect for POW's on both sides,
Unlike the Jihadists, and the Japanese and Western imperialists.
China showed its strength, which forced India to modernize its Military, enabling it to thwart Pakistan's misadventures in 65 and ultimately led to 71.
A win-win IMO for both sides involved.
@@qiyuxuan9437 yeah well… the Brits and their very idiotic border and sovereignty meddling left a mess behind pretty much everywhere…
@@thebestevertherewastea was fantastic after terrorist modi send abhinandan 😂
@@qiyuxuan9437 Yes, everything is Britains fault, keep speaking English :)
Excellent work! I enjoy how professional and detailed the story goes. 5 stars is not enough.
Especially with more recent events, I've been really curious about the history of tensions between India and China.
Thank you for these awesome vids
Wars are usually started with one side making gross underestimations of the other side such as “fire a few shots they will run away”, “Kick the door down off this rotten edifice and the rest will crumble.” Or “we can conquer them in 3 months”.
History is full of such examples. Never underestimate someone’s will to defend their homes.
Or capture other's homes 😂
@@outofturn331 aggressors usually get their asses handed to them.
@@JvmCassandra may be, but that wasn't my point
@@JvmCassandra Like in Vietnam China was handed over its ass
中国有3个战士让几个营印度士兵投降。
Hi, your continuous dedication to telling history is admirable!
Although it is a biased history. lol
Im really thankful to you for covering such lesser known aspects of history, but let me tell you that in India it is a much known conflict and very few know about the Cuban Missile Crisis here.
Also I really like all the efforts, especially the beautiful animation and the great puns, keep going bro, we all will support you always.
其实在中国这场战争也很少被提及，只是没有想到近几年中国和印度居然又因为边境问题起了冲突，中国这边才开始回顾这场战争，跟这个视频介绍的差不多。就是英国人搞出来的地区陷阱
China held fire while the Indians retreated and buried the Indian dead with honors. Class.
Love how you are covering less known conflicts!💯
The effort put into these videos is amazing. What’s even better about the videos is the historical content that is not so know. Could you perhaps do a video about the Invasion of Czechoslovakia by Warsaw pact which was overshadowed by Vietnam war ?
Mao Zedong once said, "I've been thinking for three days and three nights, and I don't understand why India did this (launching military operations)." At that time, India was a friendly country of China
With the tiny brain of Mao Zedong he of course couldn't comprehend the seven-thousand-year old wizdom of India and her great people. Only you Chinese would take the craziest murderer in human history as your "great leader" and father of the state.
@@beautyqueen03"Indian wisdom" resulted in comprehensive defeat of Indian army in 1962? And mass poverty in 2023?
So why did Chinese invaded and start illegal constructions in Aksai Chin??
@@happyskippy It's okay. Indian wisdom knows there are better days ahead. India has seen it all and still survived for thousands and thousands of years.
He was lying like xi is lying today. Chineese started the agression. Nehru had a Tip that China is going to attack but he laughed why would china attack. We don't have any kind of enmity. But he was wrong.
The 1960s in India would be one of the most traumatic decades. Following the 1962 war, Prime Minister Nehru died. The new Prime Minister Lal Bahadur Shastri found himself leading the country defending itself in another war which broke out with Pakistan in 1965. Prime Minister Shastri expired in Tashkent after signing the Tashkent agreement which ended the war. The country would suffer a famine as well in the same decade.
Political instability was also there
If Chairman Mao did not withdraw his Troops in 1962..Half of Arunachal Pradesh province would have been under China and we who are now in Arunachal Pradesh would have been under Chairman Xi Xinping 😅
The Chinese Army reached Tezpur in Assam in 1962..
Only God could've saved us that day and he damn sure did. India was at that time,an extremely poor nation which suffered a series of tragedies even after independence. So China defeating India was no suprise. China had the hand of USSR upon them for weapons and logistics.While India had nothing other than lend lease British world war 2 era weaponary for the Army's basic structure
@@the_other_cartographer6945if the army can get there the rest can too. 👌
@@NobleDorito8698 During this war the USSR actually help India more than China, and yet those Chinese atheists were still the stronger side in the war, even after the Cultural Revolution (when they destroy many temples, god statues and religions). If you really want to defend India you shouldn't say "Only God could've saved us that day", because in most time God didn't do that.
@@user-justsomeone There's a whole reasoning why the world's been a mess for a long time but that won't fit your brain.
Secondly,you lack basic historical education about this whole war.
The USSR helped no one,not even China,other than supplying them alotta weapons before the 1962 War happened due to which China was morbidly stronger and modernised in terms of Millitary as compared to India. Indian soldiers still used Lee Enfields and WW2 Era weaponary which were left as a founding junction for the Indian army by the British Empire. Even in 1965 War,India only had Lend Lease WW2 British Centurion tanks while Pakistan had all new American Patton tanks in mass production along with modern American weapons for their service. While all this was happening,India was still but slowly joining ties with USSR. That's why after 1969 Sino-Soviet Spilit,USSR replaced China with India as one of it's key allies and they gave us alot of modern weapons and equipment and hell lotta technology. They also gave us money which we thankfully invested in Economic and overall development of India rather than the army. This being the key reason for the Indian Army having old equipment for a long time while India still being a grand economy.
Now,about atheists, don't bring and divert topics through that. It wasn't the "Chinese Atheists"that magically made the PLA win the war. It were the Wild Wartime leadership of Mao which he was explicitly good at since he was fighting in the Chinese warlord era since the 1920's
Talk about God,as I said,theres a whole reasoning why humanity has been suffering constantly for a long time and that reason your brain cannot digest.
Had it not been for God,there was no way India would've safely existed even after independence because of all the decade long tragedies that constantly took place in India.
True.
British: Draw random a single curved line over a map.
India & China: War over those line.
The British: Draw a random straight line over a map.
The Middle East: Cowabunga it is!
It seems that India has completely set itself up as the agent of imperialism in South Asia
Yes, it's Britains fault you lost
India keep hating on the British for "causing" this conflict yet they're the ones recognizing the borders drawn by their colonial masters. Their hypocrisy is astounding
If you look at the peoples of Northeast India, you will know that those territories are not Indian territories at all. If they do not belong to China, at least they should be independent instead of being occupied by poor Indian imperialism.
Google: Without British rule, there wouldn't have been a political union called India.
Indica name was given by Greeks before Britishers and there was the concept of Hindusthan or Bharatbharsh before. Though it's true that Pakistan's history is not before 1947.
@@arjyachatterjee6874 Meaning British win the border dispute between India and China.
@@orangutan4696 Okay, sorry for misunderstanding.
@@orangutan4696When the British left, there wasn't any India either. Small Kingdoms were choosing to rule by themselves just like small Warlords in China. Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel brought all the small kingdoms together establishing Union of India i.e Bharat. Nepal, another small Hindu Kingdom was not colonised by Britishers. They could have with as well, but since they were colonised, their Monarchy had strong control on the public. Otherwise, it was a trend for hindus to finally come together to build what Ashoka Maurya once built.
India is a civilisation. Here activity prevailed when even Greece did not exist, when Rome was not thought of, when the very fathers of the modern Europeans lived in the forests and painted themselves blue.
My grandfather was too young for this one, but fought in the 1971 Indo Pak war. Our government made a series of bad decisions for this war, logistics were non existent...the soldiers fought on fistful of grains and even less bullets...God bless our soldiers
My granduncle served the Indian Army somewhere in the 60s. I’m not sure where he was during the Chinese invasion but he served in ‘65 and ‘71. He was very well respected of our family as we hardly have any members that served in the Army, especially defending our home state of Punjab. I wish I could talk to him but I was too young, he passed away in 2004.
I agree that even if bad decisions were made by the government, we’ll make sure that the foreign enemies will pay a heavy price, for us Sikhs for example we had 20 men defending Bum La Pass against hundreds of soldiers. While the Chinese won, they payed the price of losing hundreds of men against our 20 defenders.
I feel that every ethnic group no matter who are they and how alienated they are will have this pride of defending their homeland.
@@keiiryuu Anyone invading India is directly invading Bharat. That means Sri Lankans will be automatically at war with whoever is invading. Im Sri Lankan and ill die for India if it meant saving this sanskrutiya civilisation from outsiders. Because once India falls then SL will follow. We are all thats left of the unconverted Vedic civilisation..
And even in this situation, your government still adopt the advance policy to provoke a military disbute.
@@keiiryuuFor the 1962 war, it does not matter who win, but you need know it is India provoke the military conflict. It could be solved if you did not build forts in the disputed area.
And actually it is ridiculous for India to claim Aksin chin and South Tibet. These lands were stealed by British without agreement, and the residents of these lands at that time are Tibet rather than Indian.
India should not claim these lands if it think itself as a country of the indian nation, as Tiebetan is not Indian and do not believe Hinduism. If india think it is a successor to british india, it also should hold a cautious attitude towards these lands as no agreement reached by Britain and previous Chinese government. And inadditional, the Tibetan local government also denied this agreement because Britain failed to let it independent from China.
@@Xinnmgoh and congrats, your social credit score must have went up for obeying your lord and master Xi!
BRACE YOURSELF : Here come the angry indians complaining about the map on every video
More like a troll rubbing in that India lost
@Ohmygodstfu2045 And I think we all know who the fatherless child is.
@@Ohmygodstfu2045what about ukrainian trolls and western trolls on russia
@@mr.incogniton9478Whataboutism gotta love it.
Truth is harsh to you
I already know that this video is gonna be a banger
British journalist Neville Maxwell's (author of India's China War) longstanding thesis that New Delhi initiated the Sino-Indian War, which occurred at the Himalayan border from 20 October to 21 November 1962.
This war was not a war of conquest. It was designed to teach India a lesson. When China destroyed the main force of India in the border area and the subsequent reinforcement, China declared the end of actions and retreated. China did the same thing in the border war with Vietnam. The West media often demonize China and bad-mouth the Chinese military. The biggest mistake India made was that they believed the West propaganda about China. China only stationed one field army in the entire Tibet. Only the border defense troops were involved in the fight. The lesson is: Underestimating China can be both deadly and humiliating.
@user-mm7zi4ue7d not long ago, a survey in India found that over 67% of Indians believed that they could win a border war against China. How could they possibly reach this conclusion were not they brainwashed by the news media? Even in your message you got many facts wrong. In 1962 the relationship between China and ussr already went sour. Both super powers at the time were on the side of India. The overall economy of India was stronger than China's. In fact, due to the failure of the great leap forward, there was widespread starvation in China. India was in a much better shape than China both internationally and domestically.
Invading countries to teach them as lesson?? No wonder no one trusts China in Asia.
@user-mm7zi4ue7d Hot knowledge, starting in 1960 Sino-Soviet relations began to deteriorate, the Soviet Union began to gradually cancel and withdraw all kinds of assistance and experts to China.
@user-mm7zi4ue7dif Indian is not stupid then you might want to redefine this word of “stupid” :)
Thx for all thoses brillant videos with oustanding narrative and animation, also i know you still don't do suggestion but yeah ww1 from belgian perspective would be brillant 🤩🤩🤩🤩
This conflict became one of the reasons for the Soviet-Chinese split, since the USSR supported India in this conflict, which China regarded as a betrayal.
并不是，因为苏联想在中国东北驻扎军队，并且不归还沙皇侵占的土地
并不止这一个事件，是很多事件连起来造成的中苏冲突。
首先是苏联不遵守列宁的承诺归还被沙俄侵占的中国领土
第二是在毛泽东去了苏联见过斯大林以后知道了斯大林的心里没有苏联人民，斯大林享受奢华生活，斯大林总是以高高在上的态度对待毛泽东。
在这个时候中国和苏联就有了意识形态的分歧，只是还没有明说，知道斯大林死后赫鲁晓夫上台以后中国政府才开始公开抨击苏联政府，说苏联是修正主义。
还有就是苏联想要在中国有军事驻军，军事港口，建长波电台这些设施等。
但是最主要的还是意识形态上的分歧，在毛泽东眼中的苏联不是一个共产主义国家该有的样子。拍军队去镇压其他社会主义同盟国，而当时的中国在文化大革命时期，毛泽东要人民去评判政府，评判旧社会的规矩，评判官僚和一切来实现无产阶级专政。
反观当时的苏联的无产阶级没有太多的政治权利，没有批判政府的权利，没有反对赫鲁晓夫的权利。
Chinese r not trustworthy.
Though the Sino-Soviet split probably started even earlier, in 1958, due to Krushchev's perceived abandonment of Stalinism by Mao. Not Communist enough, I guess. The US missed a main chance by not supporting India since Partition.
The China-Soviet split started in 1956 after Nakita Khrushchev's anti-Stalin speech which eventually led to the total breakup of friendship in 1960.
mao Said back then: why did Nehru start this war? I don't understand.
想了十天十夜没想明白😂
Mysterious confidence from India
Mao also said: lmao. Border is ours.
@@WilliamChan-sq1vqما زلت أفكر في الأمر.
Nehru was not elected prime minister of India
He was worst leader india has got
His policies were complete blunder.
Love this channel. History must be taught and learned. I didn't know about this conflict.
Thank you for making a video on this. I wanted to learn more about India's post-Independence history and would await more Indian history videos 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Hey, are you Indian like me? Please reply to me!
Go read Mr. Avtar Singh Bhasin book "Nehru, Tibet and China" or watch summaries of the book by watching podcasts on TH-cam featuring Mr. Bhasin, an Indian historian who spent years doing serious researches on Indian sources before writing his book. The titles of two of the podcasts are "India’s stand on China border irrational but Nehru’s handling was irresponsible" and." Book talk - Nehru, Tibet and China by Avtar Singh Bhasin". Note those words IRRATIONAL AND IRRESPONSIBLE. Warning: truth might be hard to handle.
Hey Griffin and team, keep up the great work. This topic is perfect….important but less known. Nice to take a break from WW2.
"The Indian parliament announced a national emergency", it says all. India was in panic and begged help from USSR and USA. China was calm and merciful. India's problem is to always overestimate herself and underestimate China. Same thing is still happening now.
Don't know who was begging when some troops got beaten up from Galwan during 2020 border skirmishes. Your country donot have the courage to attack India and using this stupid reason of mercy. We know better how your Mao was merciful to your own people.
You're not allowed on this site. That's your calm and merciful government for you.
It is this smug attitude that made China one of the most unlikable countries on the planet.
Emergency is always imposed during any war. India asked for diplomatic support, but 1967 Chinese got a bloody nose when they overestimated themselves.
@@arpan9937 No the Indians escalated a minor clash by using heavy artillery, then immediately backed down and retreated when China threatened to use air cover to further escalate.
as a chinese,I think it is better not to compare, China is far behind the Uninted States,China`s military strength should be in the world`s sixth position , and only a developing country,people just working for food.I think the United States should pay more attention to india and South Korea,they are the Most powerful country over the world ,their devlepment is simply extraordinary. India in particular can now even be called the no.1 power in the universe and repalce the United States In a very short period of time ,the United States deeply underestimated their stength ,but as India`s neighbors we know how scary India is
as a chinese，i think you are right😊
as an honorary chinese, i totally agree
Yes India is the real creator of the new order. Why didn't they anticipate this earlier!
as an Indian i know chinese products are best in universe, united states and western country just copy everything what chinese made, i ship of china is enough to destroy entire US navy, but chinese are humble and calm by not using its real power
Is this sarcasm or mocking i dont really know?
It's interesting to see both armies still using some WW2 era weapons and uniforms in the 1960s
Bcoz our then pm Nehru didn't believe in modernization of the army he had even thought of disbanding army in the 50s but our next PM lal bahadur shastri modernized our army bcoz of which we prevented Pakistan's invasion in 1965
@@joydip9044 We would have won if we went into Kashmir the same time China did in 1962 and taken back our Kashmir from Indian occupation. Biggest mistake of Ayub Khan was not go in when China engaged in 62.
@@driftmaniac689Funny you tried that several times after but you couldn't manage it. Because of your army's incompetency which continues till today. If you want your victory to be served onto plate when your enemy is week then you are the biggest coward. And what would you have done taking Kashmir starve them to death ? 💀🐷
@@joydip9044 Ok
@@driftmaniac689 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
The Chinese warred like proper gentlemen here. Kudos to them!
Because China doesn't want to be an enemy of India, but the Indian government's expansion policy has seriously violated China's sovereignty!
pandat nero kept on fiddling indian flute... managed to loose 40K sq KM, new age fiddler wishva ka goo with it's boo has managed to loose further 4K sq KM to same antagonist china... so he proven to be real heir of pandat nero, more surprising is that india this time managed to loose without losing too many men... only 20 odd indians & they still managed to loose 4K sq KM. great saviour of indian men... mr chappan.... by this rate if india manages to save further 15K indian men, china will be bordering srilanka & there will never be any more need to save any more indians... 🤣🤣
As a Chinese Indian, thank you so much for covering this.
Wth does that even mean mate ?
Yóu from west Bengal right ?
@@adrianbelko7683 An ethnic chinese living in India. Or an Ethnic Indian living in China.
@@sashabraus9422 it's quite rare, and large scale Xaìnese diaspora from Manchuria only arrived in India as settlers in 18-19th century, they all settled in West Bengal, that's what clicked in my mind while typing the above half of my comment, i know what that means
@@adrianbelko7683 not quite. I am ethnically half Indian and half Chinese
Bro's genes be fighting each other.
My grandfather participated in this war. He was one of the 20,000 members of the Liberation Army. The bullet hole from when he was shot is still there.
damn, my grandfather fought in the same war but he was an ambulance driver. I hope your grandfather is okay.
致敬🫡
@@MasterQ18 Are you from India?
Actually many parts of india were not belonged to her before their British master came and invaded this land.....also Nepal was a part of tibet in Ching dynasty
In Arunachal Pradesh Jaswant Singh Rawat defended border single handedly with the help of local tribal girl. He tied lamp on the neck of sheeps which looked as if hundreds of indian army personnel r there
indians & their fairytales.... always fascinating but rarely any real substance... in reality possibly worst warriors & biggest losers....
It's still a tense border to this day, as incidents in recent years have shown. This is why both sides agreed a while back to disarm their troops patrolling the border so that no shots can ring out and spark something more serious.
It's a HUGE border, not necessarily tense all along
@@outofturn331 It is both politically dan militarily tense. iirc there were several cases of hand-to-hand fighting broken on the region in the last ten years, and it could've been a bigger diplomatic disaster had their respective government took a wrong turn during the incident. Kudos to each government for not going down that way
Like Ladakh and South Tibet (Arunachal Pradesh), Aksai Chin is traditional Tibetan territory and is part of China. But in 1865, just after the Second Opium War and the Taiping Rebellion, China was extremely weak, and the British colonist took advantage of the situation to further their invasion into Tibet. W.H. Johnson, an official of the British Survey of India, arbitrarily drew the "Johnson Line". It incorporated nearly 30,000 square kilometers of land, including Aksai Chin, into British India, turning Aksai Chin into British Indian Kashmir. The British authorities did not even notify the Chinese government of this unilateral demarcation, let alone request recognition. However, there had never been any signs of Indian occupation or symbol of sovereignty in Aksai Chin. In Nehru's own words, it was a barren and desolate land, "not even a blade of grass could grow." On the other hand, China resumed its control over the area since the founding of the PRC. When it started building roads connecting Xinjiang and Tibet in the 1950s and continued until the end, India was not even aware of it. From any perspective Aksai Chin has never been a part of India.
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No we arunachalee never been part of yours
@@tuterruyi5178 🤔
Wow. Your channel is a hidden gem. How come I wasn't aware of its existence till date. Beautiful storytelling. No doubt why you have over 2M followers.
Good video,may you do video on colaps of SFRJ (Socialost Federal Republic of Yugoslavia) from all prespectives.
Serbian Perspective: We had lost the great power of the Europe with the trust issues in the brothers that lived together for 40+ years under tito 😢
Slovenia Perspective: Communism is bad... let's run away
Croatian Perspective: Let's take the arms to defend the suppression of our people by those Serbians😡
Bosnia Perspective: Let's become the warzone of 3 different ethnicities and be doomed 😢😢
Albanian Perspective: PER KOSOVE!
North Macedonia: If all are leaving, Why shouldn't we?
The source of every conflict: the British drew a line
Great analysis. Pity that there is no Indian channel that is honest like this one.
The Chinese army was simply more experienced and better led than the Indians. China had just fought a Civil War, stalemated the US/UN coalition in Korea, and conquered Tibet. Most of the Chinese troops were also used to the high altitude due to their time in Tibet. Meanwhile the Indians mainly dealt with disputes with Pakistan, so their best troops were also near the Pakistani border. This was the geopolitical equivalent to a teenager sucker punching a baby.
Nope the indian army was a 100 times more experienced. The only reason we lost was we had lack of advanced weapons and at that time only 1% of our GDP was spent on military while Mao had 4.2 million men in army and had done advancements. I don't know about indian army numbers at that time but I do know that in British Era there was 2.5 million men serving in army in WW2. Before leaving the British demobilized troops which was reduced to 350000 and to divided between india and Pakistan and also politicians did not do much for military. Otherwise indian armed forces are experienced. It's 1962 we lost. But just 3 yrs later we defeated Pakistan in 1965.
@@rishavjana2729 defeat Pakistan is totally the same thing with defeat China😁
@@donaldduck1322 I'm not comparing both here but if you remember Pakistan was a major threat at that time because they had at least 756 tanks, we had had 609. If I talk about the air force and artillery I don't remember the numbers but half of them were deployed at China front and we had almost all subsonic jets while Pakistan had supersonic jets like the starfighter and sabre 86... but we still defeated them. That's a huge improvement from 1962.
@@rishavjana2729nowadays China would steamroll India even harder. The economic/military gap is even larger. India needs to stay on its knees with its white masters to stay safe tbh.
@@rishavjana2729And you just completely ignored what he said. Chinese troops were more experienced having soldiers who fought against Japan, in the civil war, Korea, etc. and generals who were leading men since the 1920s. India was never properly invaded in full force by Imperial Japan, did not have a civil war in the 40s, and didn’t fight the United States in the 50s. And keep in mind China never had air superiority in any of these wars.
There's a small mistake in the animation, the Indian Army didn't have automatic small arms other than the light machine guns and a sprinkling of Thompson submachine guns and Sten guns during the war. One of the reasons why the Indian forward posts were overrun was that Indian soldiers had to fight Chinese soldiers wielding AK47 with Lee Enfield bolt action rifles. It was only in the aftermath of the war that the Indian govt replaced bolt action rifles with the British SLR, a license made FN FAL that is shown in the animation.
Impressive video, I am particularly fascinated by the diplomatic relationship the British Raj had with Tibet at that time, as you may already know throughout the 19th and early 20th centuries, several English diplomats were sent to negotiate and consolidate their central Asian expansionism. One such case was the travels of Younghusband to llhasa which he made a book about. The cadastral boundaries of both the NWFP and the area of gilgit baltistan are contentious to say the least. The preceding boundaries stipulated by the British was the Johnson line proposed in the mid 19 century named after the British civil servant, Johnson. Quite a many conferences were held between the British and the qing on deciding this matter like the peking (1906, i believe) and shofuu conventions.
Some inaccuracies in this vid:
- 1914 Shimla Convention was a tri-party meeting between Britain, China and Tibet. British recognized Chinese rule over Tibet.
- Border agreement wasn't ratified at Shimla, China refused to sign off and British didn't pursue further claim. Neither did British claim western sector Aksai Chin (Where Chinese built highway)
- 40yrs later in 1951, newly independent India sent troops to occupy McMahon Line, and went beyond the line. India wanted to carve out Tibet as a buffer state, supported Tibetan revolt. India gave Jenkhentsisum a military base in Kalimpong, W. Bengal.
Dispute is entirely India's own doing.
Source: India's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible: Avtar Singh Bhasin
He was trying to explain an unverified story and treat the act as history
This TH-camr here is just trying to catch flame by naming the title as china war against India while it should India war against china. lol. If china do not have the humane approach with peace and equal proverty in mind. Would they have withdrawn and let India come back again in 1964 and again with the border harassment and lot of bullshitting again and again. Lol
I was not familiar with this war. Thanks for teaching us about it!
Please do a vid on the Soviet-Afghan War please!
Sup my man
@sergioventura2595 dang, you're here early.
@@conserva-chan2735Yup
Great video! Please consider making a video on the Sino- Vietnamese War. Keep up the great work!
My uncle.fought in this was. Was a prisoner of war. Ran from the chinese camp to reach India.
中国一向优待俘虏，在朝鲜战争，我们俘虏了很多联合国军人，会给予和中国士兵相同的待遇，甚至为他们办了代表各自国家的运动会。我爷爷年轻时也在朝鲜俘虏了三个美国军人，也保证了他们的生命安全，听他回忆那几个人都对他表示了感谢。我们坚信战争不是随意对待生命的借口。
China faced massacre of Nanjing ..may because of that Chinese were more sympathetic towards war prisoners@@zixianzhao5832.
Fun fact: China proposed to India multiple times to settle their disputes over South Tibet and Ladakh at the International Court of Justice. But India refused (actually, India never replied). Many experts believe the reason is simple, India doesn't have a case to defend their claims to Ladakh and South Tibet. This is all due to the fact that though British India used the McMahon Line as the de facto border between British India and China, the British Colonial Office in London never recognised the legitimacy of the McMahon Line signed between British India and Tibet, which they viewed as part of China
com propaganda !!..
@@wonderworld7721 In his book titled "Nehru Tibet and China", Avtar Singh Bhasin. an Indian historian emphasizes that before undertaking negotiations to resolve the border issues the Indian public have to be educated of what exactly went on during those years from 1949 to the Indo-China war in 1962 lest PM Modi gets accused for giving away land to China. For those interested in knowing a version of history that differs from mainstream that pushes ideas like Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai; betrayal of Nehru by Mao; and stabbed at the back by China, pls watch podcasts on TH-cam featuring Mr. Bhasin. The titles of two of the podcasts are "India’s stand on China border irrational but Nehru’s handling was irresponsible" and." Book talk - Nehru, Tibet and China by Avtar Singh Bhasin".. Note those words IRRATIONAL AND IRRESPONSIBLE. And I'm certain that Mr. Bhasin is neither a com nor pro China.
Moral of the story: don’t let the British draw your borders
How could you do that when you are their slave while they are the masters?😢😢
As a (self described) history buff, I love your content.
I also vicariously live through you, as I wish I had chosen my passion as my career path.
Long live T.A.H!
This video is rather one sided and pro India. It also leaves out certain facts but that is to be expected in this current climate.
You should do one about my people, The Hmong tribes that fought for the CIA in the secret war against communist Laos and Vietnam in 1970s lead by Gen Vang Pao.
Hmong people are the same of gran torino?
@@EPK123 yes sir, although I don’t really like that movie cause it’s about Hmong gangs etc but i do appreciate Client Eastwood mentioning about us.
Lol arent Hmong the descendants of the defeated Chiyou tribes...hahah l00sers lost southern China to the Huang-Yan
@@zhongguo108 what a lame and incel comment bro lmao
The country with the most Miao people is China. Who are you fighting for?
Thank you for the unbiased view on this conflict, my only criticism is that at 10:36 the Chinese soldier has an RPK-74 which is inaccurate because China never had RPKs until the Type 81.
I didn’t know that india was still using enfields as their standard issue rifle in the early 60s, and ww2 era weaponry in general, they weren’t in good shape were they?
@@alaskanbullworm5500 Our Economy was devastated by Britian and we couldn't recover fast. Much of our population was uneducated (unfortunately) and we had no money to Modernise our army much. We asked for help from the US but they simply said that India was not being tough enough on communism that's why the US will not help her. The Soviets decided to stay neutral as China was also their Ally. With nobody to help,and as we were extremely poor even at that time and there was a lack of modern weaponary,we were doomed and finally,China took parts of our land defeating us
@@NobleDorito8698 kind off a lost opportunity on Americas part. Also the Chinese were battle hardened after decades of warfare.
@@alaskanbullworm5500 Yeah thats why India stands Nuetral in Russia - Ukraine war! Nobody helped us then so why we should now sort of mentality!
@@samanyupalthi I can understand indias government not wanting to get directly involved from a geopolitical standpoint(india has a delicate balance of western support for business interests and Russian support for defense against China/pakistan), though I can’t say I’m sympathetic to the average Indian view of supporting Russia invading ukraine because of Russia supporting them in the past/anti west resentment. geopolitics change.
Thanks for covering Indian history on this channel
Love from India 🇮🇳 ❤
Thank you so much for making this video. Bring an Indian myself, I never had a clear idea of this conflict. We're hardly taught in school of any historical events past world war and Indian independence . And most of the tales we hear about this war are factless
因为印度战败了，所以印度政府试图隐藏历史❤
you guys lost, of course they are not gonna teach you any of it. Just like how Japan have state written history books where they were just having a picnic in asia and then the US nuked them.
@jokanxu730well we did but what you wrote is still wrong. The 1971 war was won and it's still isn't taught much like others coz it happened after independence
Man keep it up team your animations is awsome the funny things you had make it more fun to watch the videos 😁
After the war we started rearming ourselves. We started persuing nuclear ambition. Research and analysis wing(R&AW Indias external intelligence agency. Previously Indias internal amd external intelligence was handled by IB intelligence beaurau) was established. There was change of leadership, 1962 war taught India a lot of valuable lessons. Lessons came handy during 1971 Bangladesh liberation war.
@JackSmith-mk1ruQue the troll comment.
@JackSmith-mk1ru China invaded Tibet and then occupied it.
@JackSmith-mk1ru chíng chàng hān chī bàt sóup delicious
@JackSmith-mk1ru Ignorance is bliss as they say
@JackSmith-mk1ru Loser Winnie the pooh supporter
The motorcycle stunts of the Indian military parade are impressive, not only funny but also confident
But the bat eating stunts of the Chinese army in late 2019 were not really impressive for neither India nor for the world
The PLA was 1 hour by train from New Deli before they retreated. (You missed that fact)
But later they changed their mind. India was not worth colonizing.
And US was 1day away from mass scale airstrike
Man China acted so mature in this war
朝鲜半岛没有重武器，也打的很成熟，美国人直接被打怕了。。
India has always underestimated China and let China walk all over India.
U think civilians of India would just watch and let that happen?!!! Even if amry become weak ... Civilians would participate. ❤🇮🇳
India not underestimate but wanted to have a helping hand towards the newly liberated china but china knew nehru was a bit too kind to them starving for friendship with unknown neighbors but china was looking just seeing for its own interests and surprisingly they betrayed our government too earlier than they could thought of it.
china saved it self.. china cannot fight a total war
@jacksmith6015 don't ever underestimate the Indians.
@jacksmith6015 it's not that easy now India is modernising it's military and becoming self reliant in every sector we know it will take time but soon Bharath will emerge as a global power not for its interest but to help the weak nations of Africa,south America and many unknown islands who still have old type colonial mentality and respect towards their colonisers Bharath 🇮🇳 will help them to get out of that slave mentality which was imposed on their educations, factories labours, mining labours and from every field the materials which are in high demand and interest of their past invaded country.
Can you make a video on the Bangladesh Liberation War of 1971 or Indo-Pak War of 1971
So many inaccuracies,
China was invited to 1914 Shimla Convention, it was a tri-party meeting between Britain, China and Tibet. (British recognized Chinese rule over Tibet)
Border agreement wasn't ratified at the meeting, China refused to sign off. And British didn't pursue further claim. Neither did British claim western sector Aksai Chin (Where Chinese built highway)
40yrs later in 1951, newly independent India sent troops to take McMahon Line, and went beyond the line. India wanted to carve out Tibet as a buffer state under its influence. Supported Tibetan uprising, provided them a base in Kalimpong, West Bengal.
Dispute is entirely India's own doing.
Indian govt historian bare it all. TH-cam video, India's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible: Avtar Singh Bhasin
For China they just wanted to teach India a lesson, China doesn’t consider India as an enemy. Although China and India are neighbors but they are two different worlds in every aspect. But China won’t accept any Indian influence on Tibet, that’s what made China angry on India.
China, India, and Pakistan should resolve their disputes peacefully and start cooperating more if they want to seriously challenge the West hegemony
@@hmstransit909 that’s right.
@@hmstransit909 Then tell your stupid Modi to stop rejecting the Chinese Yuan in BRICS and trespassing Chinese territory. India is more of a hindrance than anything.
@@hmstransit909This is hilarious then why do Indians come to the USA wanting better opportunities?
India wanted Tibet, if not carve out Tibet a buffer state under its influence. Nehru supported Tibetan uprising, despite British recognized Tibet as China. Now, Imagine China did the same to Northeast states wanting independence ? How would India react?
You made my day with this... Cheers 🍻. Now to actually watch it 😅 and form opinions I can live and die by 💀
During the Korean War in 1951, the Chinese defeated the 17-nation coalition forces led by the United States and wiped out 250,000 Americans and 60,000 coalition forces from various countries. China lost more than 300,000 people. This is recorded in the history of war. At that time, it directly entered today's Seoul, the capital of South Korea. Having beaten Vietnam into Hanoi in 1979, India need not feel depressed.
Hanoi beat China? Are you serious? When the French colonists and American colonists were about to occupy the whole of Vietnam, the Chinese Communist Party did not send instructors to train your army and provide materials. Vietnam may now be a capitalist country, and American troops are stationed!
You don't know what your talking about
@@KeithPegram-t3ethey're the average chinese bots
Let them think as id they're the next nazi germany(of 1939)
Indian always blame their failure due to too many Chinese soldiers, while they never think about if the Chinese troop can defeat USA, how can India win this army, that's why Mao Ze Dong can not figure it out. Can you figure it out?
In 1979, China only managed to capture Lang Son, which was about 23 km from Chinese border and 150 km from Hanoi, after 2 weeks of combat against local militia.
During the whole 2 weeks campaign, China estimated that it had lost 10% of armour vehicles (Reality was much worse)
The Vietnamese did not even pull their troops out of Cambodia until 10 years later when China’s ally Khmer Rouge had no real power left.
I'm actually very surprised how. you create these detailed videos of so many different countries and I'm from India and I tell you that you know more about this war in 1962 than a lot of other Indians know and actually have to compliment you for doing such a nice research and creating this video
Because India lost the war, the Indian government will not publicize this history of failure.
Chinese always get victories and territories while Americans Koreans Vietnamese Indian Filipinos always claim that they inflict heavy casualties on Chinese...🤣
Can you please make a video about Italy East Africa campaign.During World War 2 Italy conquered British-Samoliland and Frensh-Samoliland.Then they attacked Sudan and Kenya and conquered large areas.Italy was more succesful there.
No they weren’t they got pushed out of the area
I never knew both India and china have never declared war on each other 😊,
Even in war we maintained diplomatic relations.
I hope peace prevails between us 🕊️