Like I said at the end of this video, there are a few characters in S tier that could go to broken. If that were the case then I'd say: Dragunov, Nina, Eddy, Yoshi, and Xiaoyu. NUFF SAID
@@liltokyodrift facts can’t be wrong because they are “facts” opinions can be. If I say the sky is brown that’s my opinion. However that don’t make me right
This tier list is just the average online player experience.... A bit delusional but a kinda decent effort . Also if you lab some characters your opinion will change drastically
Pretty much this 100%. I'm sick of hearing the community bitch about Yoshimitsu while he is never represented in tournament play. I really hope scrubs don't get him nerfed into the ground to near uselessness again.
@@Arnuld15Governator top yoshi players said they were ready for nerfs because he needed them and then they buffed him he isnt represented bc their is very few that play him at that level and even fewer who go to tourneys. while i agree this list isnt a great list, yoshi isnt over hyped he is really good right now and thats very clear.
This video is more about how much you like the characters. Maybe learn the match ups before doing a tier list because you pretty much put characters in S tier because you don’t like them.
@@the_lastshin2189 A tier isn’t low and I honestly think he should be lower. I don’t think he’s garbage tho but every character in this game is strong so it’s hard for me as a non pro player to know how strong he is. He’s probably B tier.
@@the_lastshin2189 themainmanswe did a good one, devil jin is bad bc he got absolutely no poking, which was his defining trait previously and made his moveset work, now they took his poking, gave it to jin and gave devil jin one of the best heat smashes + his heat state was pretty good as well Now they nerfed him every patch to the ground, his fundamentals, his heat smash is now garbage too, which leaves devil jin with nothing but electrics and stylish moves, otherwise he truly is bottom 5 currently
Not gonna lie, that Jun take is sizzling hot. It sure would be nice to have actual reasoning behind the placements and not just "oh em gee, so stronk, plz nerf, S-tier!" PhiDX and Arslan have both said she's really bad. I suppose two tourney players just don't understand what makes characters strong.
this. predictable strings, sucky lows and sacrificing health for a little bit more combo damage... some characters in Tekken have a 50/50 mixup without input difficulty.
King is so strong and broken that we see him in every grand final and wins every tourney since the game’s launch. That’s why all top 8 are full of king players because he is so broken and easy to win with at a competitive level of play.
People are knocking on this tier list because it doesn’t completely mirror ones from evo champions but this is literally a more accurate tier list for 99% of the online player base. Actually really respect that this isn’t just some low effort parroting of arslans list or something. That’s for the top 0.01%, but this list is actually more Accurate for the average player, even high ranks
thank you man! i got so much hate cause i didn't talk about frame data and all that stuff. this was purely from how i feel. so many people didn't understand that.
Wow…….. Didn’t think this is possible. I know I’m S-tier (maybe not like this Jin), but gameplay wise (for this Jin)?…..I’ve no idea. I actually thought I was weak. Good to know this game is balanced as is. Anyways, brilliant decision you made there. Highly commendable.
The argument you make about Hwoarang is an argument you could make about so many of the other characters too: They lose a lot of strength against people who know how to counter them. Eddy especially. That dude is not S-tier. Mostly people lose to him because they don't know wtf is going on, but it's a matter of his moves being confusingly telegraphed (intentionally so), they aren't actually scrubby or overly powerful. He is a true knowledge check character. Also, if you wanna make the case the Hwoarang is somehow in a lower tier because he is hard to master... Well, doesn't that same logic apply to Yoshi, Xiaoyu, Kazuya and Nina? It sounds like you are mostly going off of your gut feeling here, which is fine, but it doesn't really teach me anything about these characters' strengths and weaknesses.
They gave king the wavedash, because they didnt nerf his oki, but REMOVED it. He himself is in mixup situation if he muscle busters kuma or panda, which is absurd and makes no sense. They overnerfed him, or nerfed him in a wrong way, so they didnt event give him a wavedash, since he always had one, but they relaxed the execution. As long as alisa, xiayou, jin, Leo, and nina exists the way they do, no one has the right to rant about king. My opinion.
The evaluation of the characters in this clip is very nice, and I know that you do not like the character of Dragunov. It is true that his movement is slow, but he is one of the most damaging characters, and he is also the only character whose finishing move takes 35% of the opponent’s life ❤
One launch is round end for drag . U can get 70 percent damage . Then there is 50/50 wr2 and d2 , throw mix up . In heat he has launching heat engager. His damage should be half at least .
13:58 ‘it’s your fault for getting hit by it so.. get good?’ HILARIOUS that you apply this for your own character but ignore that for eddie, king, victor, all the other characters that YOU suck against
Hey wassuo Geralt! Didn't know you had video games in your timeline. Anyway, you're absolutely right. Cause you or me could say that for every character. In the end, it's a fighting game, you vs the other player. If you lose or are constantly getting hit by the same move, we only have ourselves to blame. The reason I said that for Hwoarang is because his entire 4444 string is duckable and super punishable. Am I biased? Sadly yes. But it's my Tier list soooo
Devil jin and reina in same tier :D You could just say you have no opinion. I underatand its your tierlist but can you tell me a single thing djin is as good or better than reina?
DJ is only there cause the LACK of knowledge i have on him with these recent patches. for some reason i see so many people saying he's bad. and Reina gets nerfed like every patch and just doesn't seem nearly as strong as she once was. again this is just my personal preference.
@@MadMikeYT ye he became rare do to so many nerfs, he did get nerfed every patch, and since he was quite incomplete, his biggest advantage was being the newest by a gameplay point of view, when his match-up was figured out, even without the nerfs he would be just high A, at most low top 10, but after those nerfs he is only better than panda, he has a small movelist and lost lots of combos and techs, like the ferrari tech, and since most of his original tools and fundamentals like poking were given to jin, he basically is a worse kazuya now, and it doesn't help the fact he is probably the second hardest character in the game Also his hellsweep now is bad, at most it can do 45 dmg out of a full combo that often whiffs, and he has no other decent low.
As a lili player i would say she is a tier. Her nerfs made her more unsafe. I get the voila kick and how her knockdown 50/50 resets were mad. But the other nerfs she got were unnecessary
This is NOT a tierlist! You don't even use over half of your tier-slots. Just OK tier? THRASH tier? Why are you making those tiers if they stay empty anyway? A true tierlist exist out of the tiers: S, A, B, C and D, with every tier having at least 3 to 4 entries (depending on how large the roster is). If you rate 90% of the characters A or S tier, you should not make a tierlist at all to begin with!
This tier list is like if a red rank was allowed an opinion. Zafina is not the worst character in the game, Reina is higher, kazuya, eddy, paul and claudio need to be lower, king is not the best character in the game, and honestly nearly everything in this list is wrong.
Actually clueless about the game. No offense, but a handful of these picks in the position they are in, i'd reckon most of the community isn't gonna take you seriously anymore.
Some of yall hating too much, I actually really liked this video. As a person who typically watches pro tierlist videos with a lot more explanation of the characters rather than going by feel, this was a real breath of fresh air 🤍
So, just a tought. The fact you put raven in A-->S means that you either suck at the game OR that you don't know his matchup nearly enough so you get "Raven Taxed". I don't think you suck at the game (despite you playing Whorang, eugh...) so there aren't many other options. Current Raven is a straight downgrade compared to T7 Maven,. He has the same problem Steve had with Lionheart stance but didn't get fixed, and on top of his general inconsistencies and Egregious risk/reward tools, his best moves got nerfed and he lost 4 launchers in the process (cause he had Soooooo many good ones...). The only reason you see any Raven player is because most of us are loyalists and some new player gets tricked by how stylish he is.
so is this just you ranting about where I put him? i didn't hate on him or anything so i don't see why ur mad but alright. in the end it's my opinion. if you don't like it, that's ok. you know you can make ur own list right? (Also u hating Hwoarang is just so funny to me cause most the people that complain about him are only salty cause he's a noob killer😅)
"Get Good" is not toxic at all bro. Hwoarang is what made me fall in love with tekken to begin with. You said it perfectly "the people who complain about hwoarang are the ones who get their butt kicked by him"
Hmm I like this interesting tier list but as a Jin main I believe his lows need to be 2 frames faster because his lows are all reactable at 20 to 22 frame including hellsweep minus d4. I know you brought up D2, but that move is 22 frame and it's pretty reactable and has to be used sparingly. I would put him A tier like hworang. No pressure tool other than the ones from zen stance and his stance cancel is almost impossible to do, meaning he cant block from his stance transition makes him also hard to use and compared to dragunov and Alisa his lows are mediocre because drags d2 is 18 frame and not launch punishable. His high to low transition pokes are also unsafe and slow like 2, 1, {4 4}. Finally, other than his heat smash his heat state power-up is almost non-usable except near the wall and his power crush is hard to use due to being too slow and it forces side change and his high power crush is 21 frame and only comes from the stance making it hard to use. Jin requires tremendous match up knowledge as well because other 50 percent of his damage comes from punishes .Again, this is just my opinion lol I would also put Alisa on broken because of her chain saw attacks and her movement and lateral movement is really good like Lili along with Yoshi with movement and flash
my mans kazyu is not S-tier in my respectful opinion kazyu is at the top of B-tier kazyus entire gimmick is 50-50 and he is a combo based character with a one duckable launch “Perfect electric wing god fist” and DF2 is a counter hit launcher which is punishable on block as well as WR2 “DF2 is down forward 2 and WR2 is while rising 2” but worth kazyu you need good execution and good fundamentals if you don’t have that you won’t make it as a kazyu play hworang at A-tier does make sense i would put him at low A-tier just because he has great frames doesint mean you can’t beat him people will always talk smack no matter who you play now for jack “this might be a little biased but i’ll try to keep it honest because he’s my main” Jack is basically hworang but better because Jack has the pressure of hworang with nearly Kuma level damage so i would put him in high A-tier or low S-tier i put him there because you can get around the pressure all you need to do is be patient and try to predict when Jack will use gamma howl 2 which is a guard break in heat is a high so if you duck it you can simply launch punish it try to NOT to get cornered by Jack because if you do the chances of you winning is 1-100 :/ ok i’m done lol Edit: ok i just got to the Kuma lol but Kuma is garbage almost all of his moves are minus and if you block ALL of kumas launchers you could just launch punish all of Kumas launches on block
I like this tier list because it shows a different prespective from the usual pros who know everything about the game while I do think you should specify that you are a casual player
Eddy simply isnt good. How in the world did you conclude he is A tier? Everything is launch punishable, duckable, or can be side stepped.......everything.
King is solid but not really that good compared to when tekken 8 first launch, he gets slap by everybody, only lost against two kings out of 25 and I was in tekken king
Uhm what is this list eddy in S tier he’s annoying but he’s not that strong same for paul S tier what to even play paul you actually have to be good at tekken same for bryan s tier hes in a tier hes super strong but his stuff is not easy to land, same for kaz no reason to be up their he’s a tier, lars devil jin need to be moved down, i could keep going cause i disagree with almost every one these placements.
Disagree on a few but I feel yah. Dropping Hwoarang while buffing some characters like Paul is one of the great mysteries. Or you can notice that a lot of karate characters have moves with huge hit boxes which also hit grounded and sometimes track. The top tier always seems to feature Paul, Jin, devil Jin, Steve, Feng... 🙄 Not a coincidence I'm sure. Also a Hwo main and always underwhelmed by his hitboxes and lack of tracking. Not asking for d3 4 to be reverted but people not crushing my (high 🤷🏾♂️) mids would be pleasant. Keep at it.
kazuya Higher than hwoarang😂 Without any argument and it wasn't because hwoarang is difficult because people know its moves and because Kazuya no one knows the moves it's a stupid argument Using this logic, Dragunov and King are the weakest characters 😂
Raven is trash tier . Why you even have a tear this is such an imbalance game you know it's so bad how can you call one character powerful when the entire game should be balanced their skill set and the players should determine the power yeah that's trash
The system changes hurt King far more than he benefits from having an easier wavedash. He didn't get "nerfed tracking on some throws". All of his command throws (except for one) now do not track. This means he now has to use an i18 move for homing. Also, if King is so broken, then why is he no longer regularly appearing in top 8s? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I can't help but ask
I’m happy with B tier for panda. Not too good but not too bad either, plus when I played tekken for the first time I played Gigas I loved him so I love panda and she’s super fun to play. I hope to get better with her :)
Don’t agree on Steve . He is more unsafe , less damage . B1 damage nerfed due to recoverable health . Good luck landing 2 B1 in a round to kill. Df2 is like 44 damage , basically shit . Guard break high for some 30 damage u miss then get launched . Play him once
Jack S TIER? XDDDD Man, plis don't make again Character Tier List If u think Jack or Yoshimitsu is are in a higher tier than Steve or Reina then u are really start play in this game. I think the problem is u are in Raijin where the game is just beginning cuz others ranks like Mighty ruler or FlameRuler is still kindergarten. For ppl in comments guys don't waste time for this bullshit video this guy is in Raijin rank so in this rank ppl starting learning others matchups so i wasted 23 min of my life. Mike nonstop says that some character ''annoys'' him, they annoying u because u dont know the matchup and this thing is annoying. Listen Mike this is not an attack on you, but leave the Character Tier List to someone from god of destrucion or Tekken god, because you lack knowledge in the ranges of all characters.
Bryan gets a ton of combo opportunities but landing them and playing bryan is extremely difficult his wall carry combos are insanely difficult cause they require insane execution
@@Notwedsquid ehh not really its overhyped his combos are not as easy as Dragunov but 2ndly bryan getting a combo is not Insanely hard just get a counter hit and u got a goodc combo
@@Dark_Ghosty yeah to get the counter hit you have to play defense he’s a defensive character, doing that with bryan at the higher ranks is extremely difficult when yoshi alisa exist, and his combos aren’t overhype to literally get the most out bryan you need his hard combos.
Like I said at the end of this video, there are a few characters in S tier that could go to broken. If that were the case then I'd say: Dragunov, Nina, Eddy, Yoshi, and Xiaoyu. NUFF SAID
Xiaoyu is not broken. Like seriously she’s one of the easiest characters to beat. And now saying that as a Xiaoyu main, but she really is not broken
@@bja808 gonna go ahead and hit "X" to doubt on this comment
@@bja808 bro yes shes not broken SHES MEGA BROKEN man that character pisses me off
@@bja808I know how to fight her but she is still s tier.
Some people should just..... not make tier lists......
lol on god
He literally started it out with it’s just his opinion
@@nfgwaka1343opinions can be wrong
@@Like100Strongits an opinion not a fact
@@liltokyodrift facts can’t be wrong because they are “facts” opinions can be. If I say the sky is brown that’s my opinion. However that don’t make me right
This tier list is just the average online player experience.... A bit delusional but a kinda decent effort . Also if you lab some characters your opinion will change drastically
Exactly
Facts!!!
You're delusional
Pretty much this 100%. I'm sick of hearing the community bitch about Yoshimitsu while he is never represented in tournament play. I really hope scrubs don't get him nerfed into the ground to near uselessness again.
@@Arnuld15Governator top yoshi players said they were ready for nerfs because he needed them and then they buffed him he isnt represented bc their is very few that play him at that level and even fewer who go to tourneys. while i agree this list isnt a great list, yoshi isnt over hyped he is really good right now and thats very clear.
Tekken players liking to fight a single character challenge ( impossible )
In high rank Victor is a monster to deal with LOL doing 50/50s 24/7 switching out stances I honestly think he's close to S tier.
this tier list is not good
That take on kazuya players is so real
This video is more about how much you like the characters. Maybe learn the match ups before doing a tier list because you pretty much put characters in S tier because you don’t like them.
I don't own the game yet and I agree. Why is devil jin so low? Lmao
@@the_lastshin2189 Devil jin is garbage
@@noah92930 Hmm ? Okay can you refer me to a respectable tier list? I wanna confirm some things
@@the_lastshin2189 A tier isn’t low and I honestly think he should be lower. I don’t think he’s garbage tho but every character in this game is strong so it’s hard for me as a non pro player to know how strong he is. He’s probably B tier.
@@the_lastshin2189 themainmanswe did a good one, devil jin is bad bc he got absolutely no poking, which was his defining trait previously and made his moveset work, now they took his poking, gave it to jin and gave devil jin one of the best heat smashes + his heat state was pretty good as well
Now they nerfed him every patch to the ground, his fundamentals, his heat smash is now garbage too, which leaves devil jin with nothing but electrics and stylish moves, otherwise he truly is bottom 5 currently
Reina is definitely S Tier lol
(even after the nerf)
Not gonna lie, that Jun take is sizzling hot. It sure would be nice to have actual reasoning behind the placements and not just "oh em gee, so stronk, plz nerf, S-tier!" PhiDX and Arslan have both said she's really bad. I suppose two tourney players just don't understand what makes characters strong.
this. predictable strings, sucky lows and sacrificing health for a little bit more combo damage... some characters in Tekken have a 50/50 mixup without input difficulty.
Zafina needs a 15 frame launcher and some of her counterhit launchers back.
King is so strong and broken that we see him in every grand final and wins every tourney since the game’s launch. That’s why all top 8 are full of king players because he is so broken and easy to win with at a competitive level of play.
king? u mean dragunov? idk if i've seen king in finals?
Mimimimimi crybaby, learn handle him.
@@MadMikeYT yeah that’s what i’m saying.. that’s irony.
I do hope they buff king so he can finally get top 8 in a TWT tournament. Despite being the 2nd most played, he is WAY too weak to get results.
@@_MEGGIDO sorry. kinda hard to tell in text
We need a tier list vid every month to see the new opinion or a new list vid after every patch notes
bet. sadly i think they said we aren't getting any character balancing for a while. i could be wrong tho
Kazuya mains being “pompous” is kinda lore accurate don’t ya think 😂.
What did we even do? 😂
People are knocking on this tier list because it doesn’t completely mirror ones from evo champions but this is literally a more accurate tier list for 99% of the online player base. Actually really respect that this isn’t just some low effort parroting of arslans list or something. That’s for the top 0.01%, but this list is actually more Accurate for the average player, even high ranks
thank you man! i got so much hate cause i didn't talk about frame data and all that stuff. this was purely from how i feel. so many people didn't understand that.
Kuma & Panda not in the same tier but almost have the same moves
Wow……..
Didn’t think this is possible. I know I’m S-tier (maybe not like this Jin), but gameplay wise (for this Jin)?…..I’ve no idea.
I actually thought I was weak. Good to know this game is balanced as is.
Anyways, brilliant decision you made there. Highly commendable.
Just got it today needed this
nga DO NOT USE THIS TIER LIST
The argument you make about Hwoarang is an argument you could make about so many of the other characters too: They lose a lot of strength against people who know how to counter them.
Eddy especially. That dude is not S-tier. Mostly people lose to him because they don't know wtf is going on, but it's a matter of his moves being confusingly telegraphed (intentionally so), they aren't actually scrubby or overly powerful. He is a true knowledge check character.
Also, if you wanna make the case the Hwoarang is somehow in a lower tier because he is hard to master... Well, doesn't that same logic apply to Yoshi, Xiaoyu, Kazuya and Nina?
It sounds like you are mostly going off of your gut feeling here, which is fine, but it doesn't really teach me anything about these characters' strengths and weaknesses.
He put hwoarang in the perfect tier so i dont know why the discussion of mastering is coming from same for eddy he just hates
Shaheen is the combo breaker champion this 2024?
i believe so yes... unless i'm thinking of a different tourney but it was like 2 months ago
King the only one in broken? Dragunov is way stronger for example
My favorite is Dragunov
They gave king the wavedash, because they didnt nerf his oki, but REMOVED it. He himself is in mixup situation if he muscle busters kuma or panda, which is absurd and makes no sense. They overnerfed him, or nerfed him in a wrong way, so they didnt event give him a wavedash, since he always had one, but they relaxed the execution. As long as alisa, xiayou, jin, Leo, and nina exists the way they do, no one has the right to rant about king. My opinion.
thx for sharing
The irony
King is broken tip tier
People also complain about his main (hwao) …”idk git gud”
Bro stay on multiverse😂
The evaluation of the characters in this clip is very nice, and I know that you do not like the character of Dragunov. It is true that his movement is slow, but he is one of the most damaging characters, and he is also the only character whose finishing move takes 35% of the opponent’s life ❤
His movement is NOT slow. He has a strong KBD and decent sidestep. I don’t know what you’re on
One launch is round end for drag . U can get 70 percent damage . Then there is 50/50 wr2 and d2 , throw mix up . In heat he has launching heat engager. His damage should be half at least .
13:58 ‘it’s your fault for getting hit by it so.. get good?’ HILARIOUS that you apply this for your own character but ignore that for eddie, king, victor, all the other characters that YOU suck against
Hey wassuo Geralt! Didn't know you had video games in your timeline. Anyway, you're absolutely right. Cause you or me could say that for every character. In the end, it's a fighting game, you vs the other player. If you lose or are constantly getting hit by the same move, we only have ourselves to blame. The reason I said that for Hwoarang is because his entire 4444 string is duckable and super punishable. Am I biased? Sadly yes. But it's my Tier list soooo
Devil jin and reina in same tier :D You could just say you have no opinion. I underatand its your tierlist but can you tell me a single thing djin is as good or better than reina?
This list is actually insane😂
It couldn't be more jarring to look at lmao.
DJ is only there cause the LACK of knowledge i have on him with these recent patches. for some reason i see so many people saying he's bad. and Reina gets nerfed like every patch and just doesn't seem nearly as strong as she once was. again this is just my personal preference.
Play reina and devil jin back to back and please tell me how equal they are 😂 really wild placing for devil jin ngl
@@MadMikeYT ye he became rare do to so many nerfs, he did get nerfed every patch, and since he was quite incomplete, his biggest advantage was being the newest by a gameplay point of view, when his match-up was figured out, even without the nerfs he would be just high A, at most low top 10, but after those nerfs he is only better than panda, he has a small movelist and lost lots of combos and techs, like the ferrari tech, and since most of his original tools and fundamentals like poking were given to jin, he basically is a worse kazuya now, and it doesn't help the fact he is probably the second hardest character in the game
Also his hellsweep now is bad, at most it can do 45 dmg out of a full combo that often whiffs, and he has no other decent low.
As a lili player i would say she is a tier. Her nerfs made her more unsafe. I get the voila kick and how her knockdown 50/50 resets were mad. But the other nerfs she got were unnecessary
King at the top and Alisa in A may be the most egregious things on the list.
This is NOT a tierlist! You don't even use over half of your tier-slots.
Just OK tier? THRASH tier? Why are you making those tiers if they stay empty anyway?
A true tierlist exist out of the tiers: S, A, B, C and D, with every tier having at least 3 to 4 entries (depending on how large the roster is).
If you rate 90% of the characters A or S tier, you should not make a tierlist at all to begin with!
This tier list is like if a red rank was allowed an opinion. Zafina is not the worst character in the game, Reina is higher, kazuya, eddy, paul and claudio need to be lower, king is not the best character in the game, and honestly nearly everything in this list is wrong.
Being a tekken 8 player and you hate fighting 90% of the roster is funny asf to me
2:25 as Lili Enjoyer i apology for the suffering i put towards you 😅😂
I just downloaded demo should i buy full game?
100%
@@MadMikeYTomg you responded ❤❤
As a Shaheen main i could confidently 100 percent say.... Curse you king players
Being shaheen main and complaining about kings is crazy😂 Bro has crazy shit like hop kick that is zero on block or save lows
@okaberintaro3936 and yall got heat smashes that takes half of my lifebar 💀
@@DaRizzardOfOz76 like every heat smash does that lol?
Actually clueless about the game. No offense, but a handful of these picks in the position they are in, i'd reckon most of the community isn't gonna take you seriously anymore.
Some of yall hating too much, I actually really liked this video. As a person who typically watches pro tierlist videos with a lot more explanation of the characters rather than going by feel, this was a real breath of fresh air 🤍
thanks bro. i'm glad u enjoyed it
Putting Eddy in S tier is criminal and he should be at B-tier.
Mulgold and Shadow are S tier, Claudio is B tier. Plus they are playing on borrowed time because he probably won't be back in future games, maybe DLC.
So, just a tought.
The fact you put raven in A-->S means that you either suck at the game OR that you don't know his matchup nearly enough so you get "Raven Taxed".
I don't think you suck at the game (despite you playing Whorang, eugh...) so there aren't many other options.
Current Raven is a straight downgrade compared to T7 Maven,.
He has the same problem Steve had with Lionheart stance but didn't get fixed, and on top of his general inconsistencies and Egregious risk/reward tools, his best moves got nerfed and he lost 4 launchers in the process (cause he had Soooooo many good ones...).
The only reason you see any Raven player is because most of us are loyalists and some new player gets tricked by how stylish he is.
so is this just you ranting about where I put him? i didn't hate on him or anything so i don't see why ur mad but alright. in the end it's my opinion. if you don't like it, that's ok. you know you can make ur own list right? (Also u hating Hwoarang is just so funny to me cause most the people that complain about him are only salty cause he's a noob killer😅)
@@MadMikeYT yeah, should have put some "sarcasm" disclaimer on that Whorang hate.
nothing against the character, Just hate for the memes
@@barba3377 all good man
"Get Good" is not toxic at all bro. Hwoarang is what made me fall in love with tekken to begin with. You said it perfectly "the people who complain about hwoarang are the ones who get their butt kicked by him"
5:09 IM A DRAGUNOV LOYALIST! just thought id say that.
Mike put lee in S before people complain about b33 and wr34
uh oh where's Drac?
@@MadMikeYTchanged his name to Dante in game now
@@Freebie81ahahah
Eddy S? Bro? He's bottom tier according every pro, I think you should just lab him, I think I've never lost to eddy
Howarang main who dosent know any frame data talking😂
Jun is S Tier
No Lie
How so
She's annoying asf but not s tier. It's a matchup check
@@Goobster56her strings are annoying to counter and she can launch u in alot of different ways
@@havok705all of her launchers r punishable 😭her strings r so easy to counter, if u lab it
@@havok705 most of her strings are pretty easy to duck and her launchers deal permanent damage to her
Hmm I like this interesting tier list but as a Jin main I believe his lows need to be 2 frames faster because his lows are all reactable at 20 to 22 frame including hellsweep minus d4. I know you brought up D2, but that move is 22 frame and it's pretty reactable and has to be used sparingly. I would put him A tier like hworang. No pressure tool other than the ones from zen stance and his stance cancel is almost impossible to do, meaning he cant block from his stance transition makes him also hard to use and compared to dragunov and Alisa his lows are mediocre because drags d2 is 18 frame and not launch punishable. His high to low transition pokes are also unsafe and slow like 2, 1, {4 4}. Finally, other than his heat smash his heat state power-up is almost non-usable except near the wall and his power crush is hard to use due to being too slow and it forces side change and his high power crush is 21 frame and only comes from the stance making it hard to use. Jin requires tremendous match up knowledge as well because other 50 percent of his damage comes from punishes .Again, this is just my opinion lol
I would also put Alisa on broken because of her chain saw attacks and her movement and lateral movement is really good like Lili along with Yoshi with movement and flash
my man wrote an essay. i respect it😎
yeah honestly D2 is probably my least favorite move in the
Jin will never be buffed my guy he’s top 5 rn
@@zackariahp1873Jin is not broken but he’s really strong and needs no change. He’s perfect.
@zackariahp1873 haha I'm not saying
He is weak he is strong but not s tier strong lol
Finally someone who say leo is a he not a she
king isnt broken... and not even S. he is a strong A.
my mans kazyu is not S-tier in my respectful opinion kazyu is at the top of B-tier kazyus entire gimmick is 50-50 and he is a combo based character with a one duckable launch “Perfect electric wing god fist” and DF2 is a counter hit launcher which is punishable on block as well as WR2 “DF2 is down forward 2 and WR2 is while rising 2” but worth kazyu you need good execution and good fundamentals if you don’t have that you won’t make it as a kazyu play
hworang at A-tier does make sense i would put him at low A-tier just because he has great frames doesint mean you can’t beat him people will always talk smack no matter who you play
now for jack “this might be a little biased but i’ll try to keep it honest because he’s my main” Jack is basically hworang but better because Jack has the pressure of hworang with nearly Kuma level damage so i would put him in high A-tier or low S-tier i put him there because you can get around the pressure all you need to do is be patient and try to predict when Jack will use gamma howl 2 which is a guard break in heat is a high so if you duck it you can simply launch punish it try to NOT to get cornered by Jack because if you do the chances of you winning is 1-100 :/
ok i’m done lol
Edit: ok i just got to the Kuma lol but Kuma is garbage almost all of his moves are minus and if you block ALL of kumas launchers you could just launch punish all of Kumas launches on block
Jun higher than Feng, Drag, and Jin? King is broken but Jin, Drag and Alisa are fine? Uhh hello?!
Good tier list man beside kazuya because he is my main I agree a lot with you
Lol putting law in a tier and eddy in s tier is so criminal
u think eddy should be higher?
@@MadMikeYTlowerrr, eddy is a tekken 8 character, not broken, not weak
@@MadMikeYT I would say b tier personally
Yeah law is an easy S lol
Chat GPT ass tier list, what in the world
#staymad
My main is B tier pull out the cane move
This list is valid asf🗣️🔥💯
very different from what pro players think. You should add to the disclaimer that this is for beginner to intermediate players
i said at the beginning that this is just my personal opinion...
I like this tier list because it shows a different prespective from the usual pros who know everything about the game while I do think you should specify that you are a casual player
maybe. i mean i do say in the beginning that this is just my personal preference
Dawg...why aren't Jun and law is broken...Jun can just heal before going in for another combo...and its just law
@@jerrywilkinson because she's not? Why would a character that's not even top 10 would be broken
Jun and law are easy to beat.. well for me at least.
@@mangekoo3682not my Jun 😉
Lars should be broken because he’s has good combos and good making comeback
Buff Claudio pls 😊
If you dont like to fight ,just dont fight .see thats easy😂😂
But this is true.Alisa is too much😢
eddy above nina and nina next to kazuya XD lmao
This is more of a characters i hate the most tier list. It makes zero sense whatsoever 😂
I only play as the S tier characters
If you put dragonuv first, then you can put anything you want i would agree with everything else you said. Otherwise everything wrong on this list.
if its to put the whole roster between S and A just dont make tier list it'll be faster
it's like you hate almost every character lol
Eddy simply isnt good. How in the world did you conclude he is A tier? Everything is launch punishable, duckable, or can be side stepped.......everything.
king mains have no balls.
King is solid but not really that good compared to when tekken 8 first launch, he gets slap by everybody, only lost against two kings out of 25 and I was in tekken king
Dragonov is ss+tier
Reina below Kazuya and DVJ is not that bad……please play the Mishimas before you speak on them dawg
Uhm what is this list eddy in S tier he’s annoying but he’s not that strong same for paul S tier what to even play paul you actually have to be good at tekken same for bryan s tier hes in a tier hes super strong but his stuff is not easy to land, same for kaz no reason to be up their he’s a tier, lars devil jin need to be moved down, i could keep going cause i disagree with almost every one these placements.
Eddy is so ass bruh every goddamn low out of stance is launchable and characteris super linear lmao
How Eddy is S tier while everyone said he isn't good
Infact he maybe even worst than tekken 7
Soo explain
Cmon eddy😂💥
Disagree on a few but I feel yah. Dropping Hwoarang while buffing some characters like Paul is one of the great mysteries. Or you can notice that a lot of karate characters have moves with huge hit boxes which also hit grounded and sometimes track. The top tier always seems to feature Paul, Jin, devil Jin, Steve, Feng... 🙄 Not a coincidence I'm sure. Also a Hwo main and always underwhelmed by his hitboxes and lack of tracking. Not asking for d3 4 to be reverted but people not crushing my (high 🤷🏾♂️) mids would be pleasant. Keep at it.
Asuka main❤❤
kazuya Higher than hwoarang😂 Without any argument and it wasn't because hwoarang is difficult because people know its moves and because Kazuya no one knows the moves it's a stupid argument Using this logic, Dragunov and King are the weakest characters 😂
Eddy isn't even top 10 anymore, but he is annoying.
I like this list
Raven is trash tier . Why you even have a tear this is such an imbalance game you know it's so bad how can you call one character powerful when the entire game should be balanced their skill set and the players should determine the power yeah that's trash
King is not broken ...
The system changes hurt King far more than he benefits from having an easier wavedash. He didn't get "nerfed tracking on some throws". All of his command throws (except for one) now do not track. This means he now has to use an i18 move for homing. Also, if King is so broken, then why is he no longer regularly appearing in top 8s?
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I can't help but ask
rank?
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Paul is not S tier lol
I’m happy with B tier for panda. Not too good but not too bad either, plus when I played tekken for the first time I played Gigas I loved him so I love panda and she’s super fun to play. I hope to get better with her :)
I hate these D pad crazy inputs just to do combos. What happen to the combos with x,o,square, triangle
I want dlc characters:
Armor King
Mokujin
Lei Wulong
Bob
And team battle mode in Tekken 8🫡
i dont think king is good at all i never lost to him just sidestep lmao he is only pain if you are low rank
Hwoarang doesn't need buffs, lol😂😂😂
Even a nerfed Hworang is op his kit is the right hands is unstoppable
Don’t agree on Steve . He is more unsafe , less damage . B1 damage nerfed due to recoverable health . Good luck landing 2 B1 in a round to kill. Df2 is like 44 damage , basically shit . Guard break high for some 30 damage u miss then get launched . Play him once
Jack S TIER? XDDDD
Man, plis don't make again Character Tier List
If u think Jack or Yoshimitsu is are in a higher tier than Steve or Reina then u are really start play in this game. I think the problem is u are in Raijin where the game is just beginning cuz others ranks like Mighty ruler or FlameRuler is still kindergarten. For ppl in comments guys don't waste time for this bullshit video this guy is in Raijin rank so in this rank ppl starting learning others matchups so i wasted 23 min of my life. Mike nonstop says that some character ''annoys'' him, they annoying u because u dont know the matchup and this thing is annoying. Listen Mike this is not an attack on you, but leave the Character Tier List to someone from god of destrucion or Tekken god, because you lack knowledge in the ranges of all characters.
Bro doesnt understand tierlists
Kazuya Aint s tier my friend
What in the scrub is this tier list, Eddy S? 🤦
Bro Bryan gets so many combo opportunities but his combo dmg and wall carry shouldnt be above average
Bryan gets a ton of combo opportunities but landing them and playing bryan is extremely difficult his wall carry combos are insanely difficult cause they require insane execution
@@Notwedsquid ehh not really its overhyped his combos are not as easy as Dragunov but 2ndly bryan getting a combo is not Insanely hard just get a counter hit and u got a goodc combo
@@Dark_Ghosty yeah to get the counter hit you have to play defense he’s a defensive character, doing that with bryan at the higher ranks is extremely difficult when yoshi alisa exist, and his combos aren’t overhype to literally get the most out bryan you need his hard combos.
@@Notwedsquid I agree, bryan player here, his combos are hard to execute, you need a proper timing.
Bro can't even make a good tier list 😂
This tier list is just emotions of a basic player who has no understanding of this game. Not a single mention of frame data or smth just emotions
dang that's crazy. it's almost like i said "this is just MY OPINION" at the beginning of the vid🤔