For those of you that want more details on The Crew 2's actual gameplay, I've just published a full, detailed review for the game that should answer any and all questions. If not, feel free to ask! th-cam.com/video/rfBDmX0GKik/w-d-xo.html
I noticedd it a bit but wow thanks for showing the texture difference. I do think as a game the crew 2 has more fun to offer now, but the crew 1 had better vehicle specs as well as realism to the USA. I miss perf and street the most, but im happy offroading has improved even though regular cars haven't, such as the chevy truck and the charger which sound worse and are solower now, but the camaro sounds better. I just miss racing koinginseigs in my charger and 1000hp truck and winning, and drifting in the snowy (not anymore) mountains
The crew 2 has allot bigger scale maps and buildings then the crew 1, amazing how changes allot after generation then generation and maybe next gen might be even way more bigger scale and more weathers effects too that will be cool right. The crew 2 is so much better than any other games out there in my own opinion.
Maybe with all those graphic cards and enhancements it might look good but without all that just being default, the crew 2 blows the crew out the water@nick930
The Crew Storyline: Taking down an underground racing mafia that framed you for killing your own brother. The Crew 2 Storyline: Earn Followers by completing races.
main reason why The Crew 2 sucks balls and why The Crew is a memorable game, an interesting story and excellent OST. For me it kicks modern NFS and Forza asses
if you like something, it doesnt make it better. The Crew is an okay game but unfortunately the trailer was better that the actual game. As for now, Forza H4 is one of the most solid racing games out there even tho you dont like it, and Need for Speed just released a game that grants their ticket to the top if they contiune in the right direction.
That's all on Ubishit. Ivory Tower did a great job - but due to Ubi's business model of _'Mediocre for the masses'_ (which they're doing exactly right, in terms of doing the business model how it was meant to be), we get games with extremely pushed deadlines and underdeveloped aspects due to a heavy timeconstraint. This is why I dislike Ubi so much. Ivory Tower did an insane job on a technical level, the fast in-and-out, swapping vehicles and 10 minutes of instant replay with tweakability however you want. This shows their competency. But Ubi, being the publisher that they are, just didn't give them enough space to do what they wanted to do. Thankfully, they will be supporting this game for a long time, hopefully improving some of the flaws they have, and adding some necessary features. If Ivory Tower fails and doesn't make enough revenue - Ubi will probably eat the company and make it a part of Ubisoft itself - like they've done many times before. That also, is part of their business model, sadly..
It's not like they woke up in the morning and decided to do that randomly At the crew 1 u don't have to load a lot of the sky And u don't have to load the water Because u don't need it u play on land The crew 2 is different it take more resources to load
the whole point of a game like this is to immerse yourself in the gameworld. it should look and feel as real as possible and visuals play a key role here. the crew 2 isnt just an uglier game but a shittier game since it shatters that immersion.
cuk If you can afford a fucking PS6 (which doesn't even exist) is the only way you’ll EVER be able to play this game at it's fullest without blowing your system. Why do you think Forza lobbies are laggy?
@@festive5476 Yes, well, a little bit. In one of the updates back in 2019 (I think) they updated the lighting slightly to make it more natural and colorful looking.
The Crew: Large map with many places to explore The Crew 2: Large map with less places to explore The Crew 3: Large map with terrain only The Crew 4: No map
Very good comparison. The crew 1 looks better after wild run update. The crew 2 doesn't look natural if you are not looking into the setting/rising sun. Well in the second part they deleted cool places like the military base near Chicago, the NASA launch place near San Francisco... You can no longer see the detailed drivetrain of the cars and there are NO COPS. Sorry but I am so disappointed by the crew 2 because it's ofc an upgraded map in terms of textures (as you saw not always the case lol) but it's basically the same, a bit worse in my opinion. Maybe you could one day do a full comparison with many categories.
YEAHMAP i agree with you, but i think that the second one gets a bit of advantage thanks to the gameplay variety that, at the end of the day, is what most people enjoy
They said that they'll be doing future updates, so I bet we'll see cops being added in and a graphical improvement sometime next year. Bear in mind that the graphics engine had to be done from the scratch, because of the planes and boats.
YEAHMAP yeah, as some others said, i played the crew 1 since launch, and it was just as bad grapically and gameplay wise as the crew 2 is now. But after a couple of years they released so much more content. We already have confirmation of cops and pvp coming to the crew 2 in the future and a likely graphics overhual.
If they could mix the crisp graphics, damage, lighting from the original crew game and the reflective surfaces, huge variety of vehicles and gameplay from the crew 2 to the the 3rd installment of the game, it would be incredible.
Most of the building and house assets used in The Crew 2 looks like they were made by freshmen college students who are just getting started learning 3D modeling. The architecture in The Crew 1 actually had great model and texture detail in most of the assets.
The whole point of this game is that it doesn't consist of cities and streets only. Compare the forests, the water, grand canyon, yosemite and yellowstone they all look so much better.
Lenz Ma But if the cities themselves have this much of a downgrade considering that they are the most important parts of the map, it does mean less time was put into making the sequal.
Are u really in need for a perfectly textured bench on a racing game? This is not the player experience, its just looking at unsignificant details, which should be a downgrade since the visual quality while racing or flying or anywhere else is much much better, and map is a little bit bigger too. I dont understand why would anyone compare benches in a racing game...
did you even play GTA IV? it looks far better than both Crew 1 and 2. i wish kids weren't allowed to post their opinions on the internet. literally everyone who gave you thumbs up is a dumbass
Simple. The start of a brand new IP needs to catch the attention of consumers by being visually stunning. When that inevitably fails because the gameplay is weak, developers decide to instead reinvent that series and make it more "fun" and enjoyable. Graphics take a back seat because they already have an established fan base that are more interested in seeing gameplay fixes. Look at Crysis, they did the same thing
They've misplaced a lot of things in the crew 2(especially in NY) When playing I went to Detroit and noticed that there were three Penobscot buildings for some reason I feel like they rushed TC2 and needed another year to improve the game
Yeah In almost all the city's I seen 3 of new York's buildings there and they did a terrible job on the Chrysler, empire state building and the world trade center on the game
Imo the crew is still the king. Better story ( way better actually ). Better textures and feel. The crew 2 is Forza Horizon 3 just with the addition of planes and speedboats. The crew is so much better than the crew 2 imo.
Where the first game truly shined in terms of graphics was how dense and alive the world was, something which is lacking from The Crew 2. The amount of traffic and pedestrians have been cut to a tenth of what they used to be, barely any wildlife apart from the occasional deer in the headlights, no police presence, and overall the game feels like it was designed to be about as unimmersive as possible with that stupid vehicle switching ability and the map going all Inception on you during story events (seriously, what the fuck, why). So yeah, overall I'd say it's definitely a downgrade. Not just the graphics, the physics as well, the driving feels very unnatural and scripted, way too many assists and there's no sense of speed whatsoever.
Lmao. It’s not the crew’s fault all the time. A lot of the stuff is copyright. So yea. The crew 2 is way better if you keep playing it. The crew 1 has better graphics but the cars aren’t all that.
And something that I did not like very much, was that they have taken out so many real places that were in the crew 1, places like Madame Tussads, The Captain Theater, 6922 Boulevard Hollywood, or places like the Willis Tower and the Chicago Airport, and not to mention that they took out all the stadiums discovered of great importance, such as the Dodger Stadium etc, and also many building was removed from Downtown Los Angeles, buildings that if they appeared in the crew 1, however, the textures in the city...I´m also agree, They look very poor and I think they could have done better. Very good video!, Thanks for the comparison, I already leave my like and subscribe :)
Watched this and decided to pick up The Crew 1 on PC. You can imagine my immense disappointment when I found out how unstable it is even on a rig with a Ryzen 7 and 2080 Ti. Constant microstutters and eventual crashes with no error no matter how much troubleshooting you go through considering how common the issue has been reported by other players.. since launch. It's a massive shame considering how much more authentic and vibrant The Crew 1 is compared to The Crew 2. From the buildings to the plaza textures and the road textures and especially the lighting. The Crew 2 makes the world look like everything is brand new and overly polished, especially the roads. It almost looks cartoony for lack of a better word (or even plastic-y), whilst in The Crew 1 there's a lot of visual wear and tear in the world which just makes it feel a lot more authentic. Not to say that The Crew 2 is a bad game because it's definitely not. But I feel like trying out The Crew 1 has kinda ruined The Crew 2 for me.
I played both games and i prefer so much The Crew 2. It's a lot more fun, there are more people playing, the car customization (decals and maybe visual) is more expansive (so much better than TC1), and there's a lots of things to do around the map. The Crew for me is just another great car game but with a cliché revenge storyline and stuff. On the other hand, I think The Crew's graphics (lighting and shadows) are even better than TC2 for me
I love mindlessly driving around in the crew 2 while taking in the beautiful scenery. It's something I never do in the crew 1 because it simply doesn't look as good. Some parts are indeed downgraded, sadly. But overall I think the crew 2 looks quite a bit better overall. also, one thing to point out: why waste resources (GPU resources) to bench textures when you spend most of your time blasting past them at a minimum of 200kmh. I also think most of the players don't go into the settings and turn off motion blur. Because with motion blur you just won't notice the lower texture quality of a bench at all.
It's not just benches. It's LOADS of assets that adds up to a much lower quality looking environment. If they didn't want you to notice the lower quality detail, don't add a photo-mode. But regardless, if you make that argument about graphics not mattering when you go fast, you're gonna make a lot of NFS and Forza Horizon fans mad, because immersion from detail goes a long way, regardless of speed.
if they mix things that appear on the crew with actually are in the crew 2 it would be a perfect game (i refer to graphics, night mode, collision animation, that the car will be destroyed, police, more cars like bmw e36, old more cars and the illumination)
Render distance is terrible, everything from buildings to trees are noticeably low res when only 150m away from them. there should be an option to change how far textures start to get low res, because i don't even have that good of a PC and my PC is no where near struggling to keep up with the game on ultra.
Whats funny is that the game has lower LODs than tc1 and lower res textures yet it still runs like shit, on the other hand tc1 never had any fps issues.
Ali Gjana Dude, i want to have what you are smoking for sure. Buddy of mine had to play on medium settings with his GTX 780 to reach about 50-60 fps stable in The Crew 1, and the fps would drop to 30 in the cities, even before the wild run update and The Crew 1 crashes all the time. In The Crew 2 he can actually play at high settings while having a stable 60fps, even in cities... And has yet to experience a single game crash... Even on my GTX 1080 The Crew 1 runs at a lower fps compared to The Crew 2.
the fact that TC2 doesnt have NPC Police honestly pisses me off. its one of the reasons the game feels so Dead. they added "Vault Security" vehicles and missions but thats not the same. one of my favorite things to do in TC1 was to mess with the NPC cops. I'd tease them in many ways including pretending to drive slow just to pull off like "ok OK im done, u got me. SYKE! no no for real now, u got me I'll pull over. JK!" and just zoom off at 300mph. Another thing i miss from TC1 was those time trial delivery crate things. those paired with Player Cops were fun as hell. they Have the models for police peds in TC2 as i see them Walking down the side walk not giving a damn about the hundreds of racers going rampant. they added a few new missions/races but tbh who asked for them? im sure players want Cops and Player Cops to come back.
theres also untextured police cruisers sitting in small patches of road construction. not to mention they just recently added Crown Vics that Players can drive both for new "Taxi Missions" or for just plain Street Race Events. the fact they add all the things players dont want is just bad
Why play as a police officer by purchasing a cop vehicle to chase these fake crash dummies in missions that didn't exist in free play? It all makes sense to me as to why they didn't add active police officers patrolling in the crew2. When adding planes and boats, you will find cop chase to be countless because they played a major role for solid ground vehicles. The Crew2 is not even close to GTA 5 lol because they could not make this game any more violent than smashing into other vehicles.
@@KevAng039 THANK YOU The sequel turned it into just another racing game. The 1st one with its storyline and capturing the atmosphere of different regions is so much better in my opinion.
@@TaylorTrace90 no problem, gotta call it like I see it. Seems like every game of a new ip, such as the crew, has a decent story, better environment that really captures the surroundings of its location better. The crew did that and the crew 2 did not. How many sequels turn the story over that much and make it into gathering followers to move up social media leaderboard. The sequel could have been so much better, when I played it, it felt dead in the water to me last summer or fall or whenever it came out. Hardly ever saw another person in the game, always saw generic ai drivers. Great potential ruined by a crap story, was really hoping to see a geographically correct looking USA but that didn't happen either. I know the distance isn't going to happen, but come on, why does Long Island run North and South off of NYC?
@@Nitrous0xide_ yes the graphics on the crew is amazing THATS why I have both games. I play crew 2 for the races. And I play the crew just for the roleplay and the police. Love both games.
The biggest gripe I have with TC2's visuals is probably the lighting. I could notice this as soon as I played it, it's like you're wearing sunglasses or looking through a tinted window. Furthermore, it makes desert landscapes like the Las Vegas region and grand canyon look discolored. What should be a vibrant red/orange/yellow in some places is more of a muddy brown color which takes away from the aesthetic in my opinion. Overall though, the visuals are an improvement, especially in the snow and various reflections. Just a shame they couldn't nail both.
personally I think they both look great but in different ways, the crew was more realistic and the lighting was closer to reality while the crew 2 is more picture like, vibrant colors and reflections with a lot of detail on the cars and the objects in its close surroundings but everything that is even remotely out of focus is blurred out and the lighting is again more vibrant but darker to let the colors shine in focus its like if the game was edited to have a depth of field picture effect constantly which is pretty as long as you never look away from your car
You should do a comparison on weather conditions, where The Crew 2 beats the previous game by a lot, the reflections and everything, also vegetation in the off-road areas should deserve a comparison too, TC2 has a lot more variety of vegetation.
Yeah that's a very good point. Though I did say specifically that the reflective surfaces in The Crew 2 are better. I was going to compare puddles in The Crew 2, but there's no way to force puddles on in the photo mode. You have to wait for the game to rain on its own Though.. granted... both game's vegetation is pretty outdated. The Crew 2's trees often remind me of the terrible vegetation in Mafia III.
It really is like mafia 3 , i was trying to remember where i have seen that quality of vegetation before but couldnt place it. But it truly is , they better come up with a HD texture pack or something . Game is only 27GB i wont mind install another 27GB for better visuals
I don't know... The Crew had so many more fun things! Emotional story, cops, military bases, airplanes that actually take off and land, and you felt like more of an outlaw badass. The Crew 2 took all of those great feelings away. Although The Crew 2 does have a bit of a graphics boost, as well as planes and boats and houses, but the story was cringe-worthy and the open-world was empty.
the crew 2 has do deal with flying at high altitude, added volumetric clouds, and new water rendering which looks nice, screen space reflections, and all that has to run on same hardware (consoles), with the same power budget, they had to cut somewhere else...
topper Harley But why isn’t there a balance? Couldn’t they make the skies look better while flying, the buildings and terrain better while driving, and the water surface better while in a boat? Surely they could, we have technology that allows objects to look more detailed when the camera is close, and less detailed when they’re far away, couldn’t that be adapted for each vehicle and the terrain they’re more likely to see? For example you wouldn’t need to render high quality roads and cars when you’re in a boat or plane, and you wouldn’t need high quality clouds and water when you’re driving a car, so the game would prioritize the objects you’re more likely to see up close and make them more detailed. But instead of that the game looks terrible everywhere
The crew 2 looks way better to me as the game doesn’t need you to look at every individual bench or tree. It’s meant for to drive around a huge map at very high speeds.
IDK. I mean I like my computer resources on the multiplayer part of a game called the crew. And not focused and everything else. If I want visuals I'll go play a single player game. But if you still wonder look at any game that requires many people, the more you connect the less the system has to use for the environment. Which means less stability.
Gameplay has literally nothing to do with graphics. "SO WHAT IF THE GAME HAS WORSE TEXTURES AND LESS THINGS, IT WAS MADE TO DRIVE AROUND" Yeah, nobody cares what it was meant to be, we are discussing graphics here.
@@The_Viktor_Reznov he should re-title to direct graphical comparison. Its a misleading title. But if we are talking about graphics. Be happy we arent using xbox and PlayStation 1 graphics. Or even ps2 and 360 graphics lol
But overall the graphics looks better on the crew 2, if you actually played both game, you would know the crew 2 looks so much better. If you don’t believe me, go each gameplay videos, this dude just tried find things that look worse in the game.
It's odd - it looks worse in side-by-side pictures, but when you're actually playing, the impression is that it looks much better. I don't understand why. Maybe it's to do with the reflective surfaces?
Glad you did this video. I was comparing my screenshots from crew 1 and noticed how much better they looked. True, there are some epic moments graphically in crew 2. But midday looks like a ps2 or ps3 game. I avoid these times to race because the trees and building look horrid. Like a 10 year old racer with a 4k update. Also, there were so many events that I loved from the crew 1. Some races that I would continually redo true to how incredible the stretch of environment was that they took place in. All those areas are completely barren now. And I cant find reasons to cruise as I cant see the terrain style from the stupid white cartoon map and there will be one get away skill for the entire region. Why!!!!!!!!
I wouldn't be surprised if they will put out another graphics update for The Crew 2 somewhere down the line. If The Crew 1 before Wild Run was compared to this then The Crew 2 would have won clearly. Weather, water and even rain reflections looks a lot better in The Crew 2. The Crew 2 also runs a lot better and is way more stable in terms of crashes (The Crew 2 hasn't crashed once for me) unlike The Crew 1, a buddy of mine is playing on a GTX 780 and can get 60fps stable on high settings, where as in The Crew 1 (even before Wild Run graphics update) he had to lower it to medium and sometimes to low in cities to maintain 60 fps. In map design some stuff has changed in The Crew 2, Las Vegas for example has gotten a lot more highway roads and intersection outside the city, Some area's have been revamped and the Desert and Forest area's especially looks a lot better in comparison to The Crew 1. With all that said though, if you already liked The Crew 1, chances are you will like The Crew 2. despite the graphical decreases, and the game still looks pretty good. I have been playing The Crew 1 from day one, and personally when i played The Crew 2 it looked a lot better to me. After seeing this comparison i see that's not the case in all situations, but i didn't notices these things when playing The Crew 2. The Crew 2 has a lot more gameplay variety and this is where the game shines imho. Thanks for reading :)
The problem for me in The Crew 2 is details on the map. You can drive in a garage but everything is messed up and by your home there’s a glitched garage entrance so when you enter it then it will make your car invisible until you drive out again. And you can find a lot of bad detailed stuff around the map. Like floating stuff. Holes in the ground and plenty of other bad detailed stuff that they didn’t even bother working on
There's something on TC2 that mekes me feel like playing in a giant movie set, specially in city's areas. It like I'm playing test drive unlimited with some grafic mods. I like the game but it feels very very weird
Well... I played The Crew 1 from the beginning and it was amazing! I was maxim level and everything, but I just got the crew 2 on Friday and I love it so far! but think of it like Destiny 1 and Destiny 2 there was a point where D1 was better than D2, but the second game will improve
The thing that I'm upset about is that they didn't include any story, i know that in ythe crew 1 story was kinda bad, but it gave me something for to remember the game, otherwise its just a driving simulator, and btw the character models on the crew 2 look like models for half life 1 from 1998. And the game doesn't have that feeling, the soundtrack that you get lost while you drive 400 km/h through a canyon or a mountain, speaking of the mountains, well just boot up the game and start sreaching for them, you'll propably never find them and that was one of the more enjoyable parts kf the map the challenging snowy road and the beautiful grphics quality
As a long time The Crew player, I find The Crew 2's graphics better. Yes, some textures are downgraded, but aside from that, it beats the first one, especially regarding vegetation, overall lighting and water.
The reason for the downgrade is that with the ability to fly planes, they needed to extend the viewing distance without crippling FPS. Unfortunately, it seems that nobody at Ivory Tower knows how to properly optimize a game (I'm not going to say nobody at Ubisoft, because e.g. AC Unity is actually pretty well optimized and almost ahead of its time visually). A good example that shows this failure are Screen Space reflections. The FPS hit is massive, the difference between low and high is around 5%, which is fine, but off to high is close to 30%. 30% FPS decrease for the "easy type" of reflections. The reason for this is, next to there being a little more reflective surfaces than necessary (you can live without some reflections on rough surfaces), that the quality of the refelctions basically doesn't decrease with distance. So, if I'm looking down a river and seeing shitloads of reflections, then all of them will be rendered at full quality, up to a distance at which they just disappear entirely. I wouldn't be suprised if objects and textures work similarly, and that's why we have reduced object density and environment textures. Now, that is probably the reason for the downgrade, but not an excuse. It's just terrible optimization, and while it is great that Ubisoft is adding content with updates, keeping the game fresh and exciting, it would be really amazing if they got working on this. Unfortunately, I don't think it would be worth it financially, so they won't bother.
I agree, after the last update Nov.13 the game is very different. To me they ruined it. It seems like they are using a cheaper model of the game. I wondered why until I was at the store and saw the price of TC2 is now 29.93 it was 49.93 not to long ago. Not sure if that has anything to do with it but downgrades are usually done for financial reasons.
@@pbjracing14yearsago49 I wonder the same. The planes are so boring and controll like garbage, the game would have been better if they leaft them out. You can't even use the second stick ffs. Even Diddy Kong racing on the N64 had significantly better airplane controlls than the crew 2. Well, DKR was actually a game with quality but still. It is 20 years difference.
They say they more focussed on bigger map. It means if the map we got in crew 2, if it was double its original size then we get graphics looking like gta san andreas and if the map is 4x bigger then graphics would be like vice city. Hell!!
In the original game, the cities have distinct personalities because of the effort made with a good number of real-life locations and landmarks recreated. In the sequel, a lot of this has been wiped away with generic models. I have been going back and forth between the two games comparing locations and it has been very eye opening. Seattle, Los Angeles, Chicago, Detroit -- all of them are a lot more detailed in the original. Crew 2 is not just the same map but with less polygons and lower-res textures. It seems like these locations are actually smaller in Crew 2, with some streets if not whole neighborhoods removed. In Crew 2 you can pick most any city and drive around its streets and there's not much to distinguish one from the next, but in Crew 1 every street looks somewhat different because there are more unique landmarks drawn from the real-life locations. And even when generic structure assets are used, there seems to be a much larger pool of them available and of course their models are more detailed. It's a shame, especially since as far as I can tell nobody really uses airplanes much in Crew 2 (air events are not often included in the LIVE Summits these days) and the theory is that the airplanes are what caused such devastation to the Crew 1 world map. There are other ways in which Crew 1 is better -- more skill types (8 vs 3, if you only count cars), larger numbers of skills (600 vs about 190), police chases, a lengthy campaign storyline that takes you on a tour of the map, and more. Don't forget data stations and hidden vehicles. Also, the Crew 1 world feels more alive with more traffic, more pedestrians, and various types of aircraft flying overhead. Holding out hope for a Crew 3 that returns the series to some of these things. (A return of Faction War would also be nice, but only if they can figure out how to prevent one faction from dominating at all times)
They need to iron out TC2 first before even thinking about a third game. What they did to the nighttime, for one, feels so unprofessional and i'm surprised that it hasn't been fixed to this day.
Nick, tomorrow the Demolition Derby update will be released and they confirmed some updates in the graphics, could you do a new comparison between previous and new graphics once it's out?
Possibly. I'm working on some Just Cause comparisons atm, and we have Super Smash coming later this week. But I'll see what I can do. Still would like to see how Crew 2 stacks up to Forza Horizon 4
But you'd have to pick which location to go to, for example: If I wanna go to London, I select it in the main menu. (The cycle continues for each country/continent)
That will probably mean that it won’t be playable on PlayStation or Xbox. It will probably only run on pc. Idk thought if it did run on PlayStation and Xbox the graphics would be horrible
@@tutorialsbyaaron6707 you’re forgetting Flight Simulator and the fact that Xbox Series X and PS5 have graphical power between the RTX 3070 and RTX 3060 Ti
@@tamman994 Flight Simulator is a satellite/ai rendered world and has little details, The Crew games are hand crafted replicas of the US. A Crew game in the entire world would take too long, cost too much, and be too buggy.
This really reminds me of the dissapointment Watch Dogs 2 brung after the 1st installment. Watch dogs 1 and The crew 1 both had a pretty sad back story which develops pretty well meanwhile Watch dogs 2 and The crew 2 both have the whole Social media basis. They feel childish, arcadish and bring no story development whatsoever... what can I say Ubisoft can really bring new features to the table on 1st installments
If you are playing The Crew 2 on PC with Nvidia graphics, you can add filters to the game to make it look different. I have it set so it looks close enough to how the first game looks.
I think your cherry picking here a little. First of all compare the flat square roads of tc1 to tc2, where they naturally weave and dip. There's also the grey hue and lack of colors that cover much of tc1. I don't know how it is on pc but on ps4 there's also the weird slight flickering of all static objects and buildings while moving.TC2 has far superior weather and atmosphere (volumetric clouds) Field of view effects as your moving, generally the use of far more assets and less repeats (minus some of the strangely missing landmarks) better vegetation by a lot. same for water. A lot of the pictures that are showing these "better textures" are a little misleading since its not showing the graphics in motion, how things look naturally when the game is running. what might look good in a screen shot might look like garbage when your in game or slowly rolling passed it. I'm not going to mention the reflections because you did cover that. I think this opinion that TC2 looks worse than TC1 is the popular opinion going around right now, due to a lot of people shitting on this game because its not Forza Horizon. In a world as big as the crew 1 and 2 its very easy to drive around and find things that look better or worse than the other, its impossible for ether game to always look consistent due to its massive size. If I wanted to make this game look worse then a ps2 game I could. Just by driving around and eventually finding something to pick apart and compare. Now I do get that that's kind of the point of these videos, and it represents your opinion, But I just wanted to point out that when all of the moving parts actually come together in game, TC2 looks IMO far better. Now if you want to stare at benches or debate how/where the grass grows? Then maybe stick with TC1. Just my opinion.
This is not cherry picking. These are very basic graphical effects. I didn't drive around and LOOK for something that looked bad. I picked a very specific point in the game world, not knowing what I'd find when comparing various elements. The bench, the tree, the grass, the ground, the lighting. I even went to several MAJOR sections of the game. All of these look worse based on the following properties. Texture Lighting Shadows Object Density Water Quality What you're asking me to do is cherry pick. Find anything that looks good in The Crew 2 just so I can say it's been improved. It hasn't. Just because there's new features like more offroading and therefore more vegetation, doesn't mean the graphics were improved. Same goes for the clouds, which were only put in because of the new aerial gameplay. Of course the Crew 2 would have more clouds... the Crew 1 didn't need them. Fact is, basic elements from the first game have been downgraded in this new game. Reflective surfaces are about the only thing that has improved when it comes to visuals. From a gameplay standpoint, I'm really enjoying the Crew 2.
Like the last game, a dlc with graphical enhancements will probably release in a few months, I just fail to understand why that couldn’t have been implemented during release. But for now the graphics are good enough to still have an enjoyable experience.
The point of crew 2 is the fun. Also the natural things like water or rocks are much better than in the crew 1. The cars textures are better and the dark ambient it’s pretty cool giving a cool aspect to the vheicles
There are plenty of games with not-so-great graphics that play amazingly that were $60, so dont pull "its $60" bullshit, about any game today is that much.
Inny74 this is supposed to be the successor of the crew and you expect people to be ok with the downgrade? It would make sense if it was just a singular game that doesn’t have any predecessors because no one would expect the new one to be worse than the first.
Science butReversed graphics dont matter as long as the game played better. Furthermore, I wouldnt consider the sequal as an overall "downgrade." Sure, the graphics werent so great, but it did add more stuff. Does it mean it is good? In my opinion, no. I still play the first game because the sequel wasnt for me. There is plenty of sequels that didnt have good graphics compared to the predecessor, but yet was better than the first game.
Science butReversed Also, the "downgrade" is pretty much the graphics, story and lighting anyway, barely anything that'll hinder the gameplay, as no person playing a racing game even expects a story. Even then you can just ignore the story and be on your way exploring the, albeit, ugly USA. Again, just to get it in your head: you dont need eye popping visuals to make a game good, or to make a console sell better than others anyway.
Inny74 the gameplay isn’t even in anyway appealing to be considered a 60$ game,they added new content like boats and plane but it’s in no way necessary to be a new game.the whole thing feels like a dlc to me so i find this game to be 100% disappointing. The story is also far boring than the first.
The best thing about the Crew 1 was the main story and the graphics of the game and the best thing about the Crew 2 was the game modes there was more things to do btw I loved the story from original game
Just typical Ubisoft. The first part, as I know, had been being made a few years (to make such a big map), so they, as always, downgrade everything to make 💰 work less troubles
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I noticedd it a bit but wow thanks for showing the texture difference. I do think as a game the crew 2 has more fun to offer now, but the crew 1 had better vehicle specs as well as realism to the USA. I miss perf and street the most, but im happy offroading has improved even though regular cars haven't, such as the chevy truck and the charger which sound worse and are solower now, but the camaro sounds better. I just miss racing koinginseigs in my charger and 1000hp truck and winning, and drifting in the snowy (not anymore) mountains
The crew 2 has allot bigger scale maps and buildings then the crew 1, amazing how changes allot after generation then generation and maybe next gen might be even way more bigger scale and more weathers effects too that will be cool right. The crew 2 is so much better than any other games out there in my own opinion.
I played a few days ago and it looks like I’m playing a psp game
Maybe with all those graphic cards and enhancements it might look good but without all that just being default, the crew 2 blows the crew out the water@nick930
Nick930 best the crew 1
The Crew Storyline: Taking down an underground racing mafia that framed you for killing your own brother.
The Crew 2 Storyline: Earn Followers by completing races.
main reason why The Crew 2 sucks balls and why The Crew is a memorable game, an interesting story and excellent OST. For me it kicks modern NFS and Forza asses
if you like something, it doesnt make it better. The Crew is an okay game but unfortunately the trailer was better that the actual game. As for now, Forza H4 is one of the most solid racing games out there even tho you dont like it, and Need for Speed just released a game that grants their ticket to the top if they contiune in the right direction.
olteanu ' obviously hasn’t played the crew. lol
Eqvnt and your doing all if that Just by racing or what
olteanu ' Nope all of Midnight club game are the Best raging ever .
this game needed another year
maybe even 2 lol
True
It was overhyped and revealed too early
That's all on Ubishit. Ivory Tower did a great job - but due to Ubi's business model of _'Mediocre for the masses'_ (which they're doing exactly right, in terms of doing the business model how it was meant to be), we get games with extremely pushed deadlines and underdeveloped aspects due to a heavy timeconstraint. This is why I dislike Ubi so much. Ivory Tower did an insane job on a technical level, the fast in-and-out, swapping vehicles and 10 minutes of instant replay with tweakability however you want. This shows their competency. But Ubi, being the publisher that they are, just didn't give them enough space to do what they wanted to do. Thankfully, they will be supporting this game for a long time, hopefully improving some of the flaws they have, and adding some necessary features.
If Ivory Tower fails and doesn't make enough revenue - Ubi will probably eat the company and make it a part of Ubisoft itself - like they've done many times before. That also, is part of their business model, sadly..
you havent played the crew 1 before the wildrun right???
The crew 3 is probably going to be back to 8 bit
yeah but we gonna be able to hit blocks with head, squish mushrooms.. could you do that in the crew 1 and 2?
I prefer the crew 2 ..
If the crew 3 is 8 then the map is going to be all of earth
The crew 3 is going to play like asphalt 8 and planes will be replaced by a mode where you write tweets insulting trump to get followers
Itsa meee maarioo with cars
Summed up, the crew 2 looks better as long as you keep driving
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The crew 2 looks like a free to play version of the crew 😂
Nah
@@giovanni763 yah
Nah
@@juancordoba8423 yah
True that.
Who would ever think it’s ok to release a sequel with worse graphics?
It's not like they woke up in the morning and decided to do that randomly
At the crew 1 u don't have to load a lot of the sky
And u don't have to load the water
Because u don't need it u play on land
The crew 2 is different it take more resources to load
Idk. They probably did it _just cause_ they could.
Payback felt like a step back, for one. Probably just me.
the whole point of a game like this is to immerse yourself in the gameworld. it should look and feel as real as possible and visuals play a key role here. the crew 2 isnt just an uglier game but a shittier game since it shatters that immersion.
cuk If you can afford a fucking PS6 (which doesn't even exist) is the only way you’ll EVER be able to play this game at it's fullest without blowing your system. Why do you think Forza lobbies are laggy?
No matter what, the first one will always be legendary and underrated to me.
I bought it a few weeks ago and am enjoying it quite a bit.
@@ealing456 lol i just saw this video and i already bought the crew 2 ....
but i think its worth because i bought it for 7 usd
@@user-bv2mw9jp9c fair enough. I'm sure you'll enjoy the second. I bought the first for £4 on the PSN store.
@@ealing456 which one should I buy?
Did anyone notice Lincoln memorial is a woman standing in the crew 2 😳wtf
Copyright....
@Super Scooper that's a memorial not a person also a person still can't be put in the game if they don't give allowance.
It was not Lincoln in the first game.
Lincoln has copyrights and does not want to be copied or used
Undoubtedly political reason by some of those PR people at Ubisoft ruining everything good and right since politics got into videogames.
"Why optimize our game if we can just downgrade it" lol
Nah the crew 2 in 2020 looks better now and is the best optimized game I've played in a while
@@bratulescunicusor7211 yep
@@bratulescunicusor7211 they upgraded graphics?
@@festive5476 Yes, well, a little bit. In one of the updates back in 2019 (I think) they updated the lighting slightly to make it more natural and colorful looking.
Optimizations actually means downgrading things, dummy
3:06 You didn’t even mention that Abe Lincoln is now some Greek goddess
That's quite bizarre. Why change Lincoln to what looks like Athena?
@@ealing456 ZOOOOOOOOOUS
@@venglomarci copyright issues
@@venglomarci It is not even Lincoln in the first image, what are you on about?
It is not always about politics or whatever.
In the first opus it's a Greek god wtf
The Crew: Large map with many places to explore
The Crew 2: Large map with less places to explore
The Crew 3: Large map with terrain only
The Crew 4: No map
Lmao
imo after playing tc2 tc1 seemed dead and boring af to me, i actually enjoyed tc2 alot
Crew 6:
The crew 5: No cars
@@linh344 :
The crew:illegal Street racing
The crew 2:Legal Street racing
:/
It's time for DRIVER to come back !
VortexStory this games graphics remind me of driver San Francisco.
Comander Mcgarret your comment reminds me how disappointed i was when i couldnt find 1970 Challenger in The Crew
VortexStory ikr
VortexStory i still got san fransisco on my pc.
Yes all driver games remake would be awesome
Very good comparison. The crew 1 looks better after wild run update. The crew 2 doesn't look natural if you are not looking into the setting/rising sun.
Well in the second part they deleted cool places like the military base near Chicago, the NASA launch place near San Francisco... You can no longer see the detailed drivetrain of the cars and there are NO COPS. Sorry but I am so disappointed by the crew 2 because it's ofc an upgraded map in terms of textures (as you saw not always the case lol) but it's basically the same, a bit worse in my opinion.
Maybe you could one day do a full comparison with many categories.
YEAHMAP i agree with you, but i think that the second one gets a bit of advantage thanks to the gameplay variety that, at the end of the day, is what most people enjoy
YEAHMAP give them time and im sure it will improve the crew 1 was very bad when it first came out
They said that they'll be doing future updates, so I bet we'll see cops being added in and a graphical improvement sometime next year. Bear in mind that the graphics engine had to be done from the scratch, because of the planes and boats.
Graphics don’t give you any variation in gameplay. I think that is enough to prove the crew 2 is a better overall product in general.
YEAHMAP yeah, as some others said, i played the crew 1 since launch, and it was just as bad grapically and gameplay wise as the crew 2 is now. But after a couple of years they released so much more content. We already have confirmation of cops and pvp coming to the crew 2 in the future and a likely graphics overhual.
If they could mix the crisp graphics, damage, lighting from the original crew game and the reflective surfaces, huge variety of vehicles and gameplay from the crew 2 to the the 3rd installment of the game, it would be incredible.
Don’t forget the 60 or so in game locations that were deleted, military bases, airports, whole towns...
And cop chases
i mean motorfest does look beautiful so yeah it is something
The crew 2 is an unfinished game and the the crew 1 looks amazing.
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The Crew 2 literally has nothing to do with a crew lol
(talking about the story, despite having people to help you with each racing level)
Flying Chickens .... you must be clever
It does cause you can go with friends in a crew and cruise together with you're crew
you can do that in any game what s your point
Why’d they take ou cops?
You can join crews and inv people to your crew
Most of the building and house assets used in The Crew 2 looks like they were made by freshmen college students who are just getting started learning 3D modeling. The architecture in The Crew 1 actually had great model and texture detail in most of the assets.
As a person who knows his cars, the crew 1 is literally the game for me. Honestly the best I’ve ever played
Agreed. People overlook it and the sounds and variety of things to do was perfect!
also agreed the thrill of being chased by police cars and having illegal street races just hypes me up to play the game
Me: can I have _The Crew_?
Mom: no, we have _the Crew at home_
The Crew at home: _The Crew 2_
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Yoda: “confused I am, make sense you don’t.”
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The whole point of this game is that it doesn't consist of cities and streets only. Compare the forests, the water, grand canyon, yosemite and yellowstone they all look so much better.
Lenz Ma But if the cities themselves have this much of a downgrade considering that they are the most important parts of the map, it does mean less time was put into making the sequal.
Lenz Ma nah bro the rendereing and shit in forest are shitir44
Are u really in need for a perfectly textured bench on a racing game? This is not the player experience, its just looking at unsignificant details, which should be a downgrade since the visual quality while racing or flying or anywhere else is much much better, and map is a little bit bigger too. I dont understand why would anyone compare benches in a racing game...
deniz esen yah That's The worst comparison i have ever seen
Aashiq yep true i love the game it is amazing
The thumbnail of crew 2 looked like gta 3 high key
Times square in Crew 2 looking worse than GTA IV
Rather worse than in GTA III.
did you even play GTA IV? it looks far better than both Crew 1 and 2. i wish kids weren't allowed to post their opinions on the internet. literally everyone who gave you thumbs up is a dumbass
@@adriank8792 So it's illegal to have an opinion?
Lol no
Adrian K that’s what I’m saying
The original crew looks like how the crew 2 should’ve looked and vice versa
Ill wait and see if The Crew 2 gets a graphics overhaul like The Crew 1 with Wild Run
Fiives because graphics make a game suddenly?
The crew 3
Mr. Bean ikr just play the game and have fun. If you want to miss out because the graphics aren’t horizon enough, the go ahead.
Owan Mah the graphjcs are pretty good for me they look great at times like when it rains
Fiives It probably will, but isn't really needed imho
Why do games do this? it's exactly like watch dogs 1 and 2... where 1 seemed more graphically solid but two tried to fit in more stuff to do.
Simple. The start of a brand new IP needs to catch the attention of consumers by being visually stunning. When that inevitably fails because the gameplay is weak, developers decide to instead reinvent that series and make it more "fun" and enjoyable. Graphics take a back seat because they already have an established fan base that are more interested in seeing gameplay fixes.
Look at Crysis, they did the same thing
Nick930 Couldn't have said it better myself!
wow ur so right! thanks for the info! great vid Nick!
I agree, but the graphics in WD2 are actually pretty great on it's own. And I play it on a standard PS4.
Brian Woo Same here. It is actually pretty great!
They've misplaced a lot of things in the crew 2(especially in NY)
When playing I went to Detroit and noticed that there were three Penobscot buildings for some reason
I feel like they rushed TC2 and needed another year to improve the game
Yeah In almost all the city's I seen 3 of new York's buildings there and they did a terrible job on the Chrysler, empire state building and the world trade center on the game
I feel like they forgot about the WTC
Tbh I don't think anybody outside of America would even notice!
Man, I just love your videos. I watch at least one every night. And the Mustang colour is on point 👌 I've got the same colour on my car.
The driver on the crew 2 looks like a character from ps2.. compared to the crew 1 driver.
I've seen a ps2 game made in 2000 that looked better than any of the drivers in tc2
Brian they fixed that
How
The characters got an overhaul
The crew 2 look better when your driving and offer nice point of view on high places but the crew 1 look better when you take attention to details
Niagara falls in crew 1 though(attention to details)
Exactly
The crew 2s outside building and lightning look like something out of a PS2 game...
it looks more like a xbox 360 game
Imo the crew is still the king. Better story ( way better actually ). Better textures and feel. The crew 2 is Forza Horizon 3 just with the addition of planes and speedboats. The crew is so much better than the crew 2 imo.
Where the first game truly shined in terms of graphics was how dense and alive the world was, something which is lacking from The Crew 2. The amount of traffic and pedestrians have been cut to a tenth of what they used to be, barely any wildlife apart from the occasional deer in the headlights, no police presence, and overall the game feels like it was designed to be about as unimmersive as possible with that stupid vehicle switching ability and the map going all Inception on you during story events (seriously, what the fuck, why).
So yeah, overall I'd say it's definitely a downgrade. Not just the graphics, the physics as well, the driving feels very unnatural and scripted, way too many assists and there's no sense of speed whatsoever.
Excuse me? The physics are way better than the first one lmao and the sense of speed is there atleast there isn't that terrible motion blur
@@drewdrawdrew nitro also felt weak af in tc1 in comparison with tc2 where u can actually feel and even upgrade the power of the nitrous
@ Your Name Here Now ur just waffling and hating on the game. How u soo triggered over something so little
Lmao. It’s not the crew’s fault all the time. A lot of the stuff is copyright. So yea. The crew 2 is way better if you keep playing it. The crew 1 has better graphics but the cars aren’t all that.
And something that I did not like very much, was that they have taken out so many real places that were in the crew 1, places like Madame Tussads, The Captain Theater, 6922 Boulevard Hollywood, or places like the Willis Tower and the Chicago Airport, and not to mention that they took out all the stadiums discovered of great importance, such as the Dodger Stadium etc, and also many building was removed from Downtown Los Angeles, buildings that if they appeared in the crew 1, however, the textures in the city...I´m also agree, They look very poor and I think they could have done better. Very good video!, Thanks for the comparison, I already leave my like and subscribe :)
They stilI have holly wood
Watched this and decided to pick up The Crew 1 on PC. You can imagine my immense disappointment when I found out how unstable it is even on a rig with a Ryzen 7 and 2080 Ti. Constant microstutters and eventual crashes with no error no matter how much troubleshooting you go through considering how common the issue has been reported by other players.. since launch.
It's a massive shame considering how much more authentic and vibrant The Crew 1 is compared to The Crew 2. From the buildings to the plaza textures and the road textures and especially the lighting. The Crew 2 makes the world look like everything is brand new and overly polished, especially the roads. It almost looks cartoony for lack of a better word (or even plastic-y), whilst in The Crew 1 there's a lot of visual wear and tear in the world which just makes it feel a lot more authentic. Not to say that The Crew 2 is a bad game because it's definitely not. But I feel like trying out The Crew 1 has kinda ruined The Crew 2 for me.
I played both games and i prefer so much The Crew 2. It's a lot more fun, there are more people playing, the car customization (decals and maybe visual) is more expansive (so much better than TC1), and there's a lots of things to do around the map. The Crew for me is just another great car game but with a cliché revenge storyline and stuff. On the other hand, I think The Crew's graphics (lighting and shadows) are even better than TC2 for me
dual 1080 ti , ryzen 5 3600x, 16 gb on ram, installed on my ssd and constant 60fps at max settings
I just want midnight club back 💔
Me too 😢😢
Yeah fucking rockstar cmon!
@@TheJoshKarma Rockstar doesn't give about it, nowadays they keep focus updating on GTA V and Online.
The Future of Need For Speed Well comparing a crime shooter game to a street racing game isn’t quite valid but okay
Yea definitely shitted on nyc, they deleted so MANY OF THE LANDMARKS
Illest Visionz Willis Tower and O’Hare airport are missing in Chicago
Thats not the point
Yankee Stadium is also not in the Crew 2, it is the first one though.
Facts but they did it to the the other cities like Chicago for an example
Illest Visionz NYC had literally everything there, I'm sure some stuff was missing but Chicago was the city that was shitted on. Not NYC.
I love mindlessly driving around in the crew 2 while taking in the beautiful scenery. It's something I never do in the crew 1 because it simply doesn't look as good. Some parts are indeed downgraded, sadly. But overall I think the crew 2 looks quite a bit better overall.
also, one thing to point out: why waste resources (GPU resources) to bench textures when you spend most of your time blasting past them at a minimum of 200kmh.
I also think most of the players don't go into the settings and turn off motion blur. Because with motion blur you just won't notice the lower texture quality of a bench at all.
It's not just benches. It's LOADS of assets that adds up to a much lower quality looking environment.
If they didn't want you to notice the lower quality detail, don't add a photo-mode. But regardless, if you make that argument about graphics not mattering when you go fast, you're gonna make a lot of NFS and Forza Horizon fans mad, because immersion from detail goes a long way, regardless of speed.
Thanks for the video :)
It helped me a lot to choose wether to buy the crew or the crew 2
if they mix things that appear on the crew with actually are in the crew 2 it would be a perfect game (i refer to graphics, night mode, collision animation, that the car will be destroyed, police, more cars like bmw e36, old more cars and the illumination)
Gta 4=the crew 2 2:54
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swiss0001 gangster New Orleans=the crew
swiss0001 that’s what I thought
@@mrgames298 عربي
More like GTA sa =the crew 2
Render distance is terrible, everything from buildings to trees are noticeably low res when only 150m away from them. there should be an option to change how far textures start to get low res, because i don't even have that good of a PC and my PC is no where near struggling to keep up with the game on ultra.
Toby Mars I agree, my game run at only 60% of my VGA
Especially when it snows and you are in a plane, the trees which are only a few 100m away are completely white.
Whats funny is that the game has lower LODs than tc1 and lower res textures yet it still runs like shit, on the other hand tc1 never had any fps issues.
Ali Gjana Dude, i want to have what you are smoking for sure. Buddy of mine had to play on medium settings with his GTX 780 to reach about 50-60 fps stable in The Crew 1, and the fps would drop to 30 in the cities, even before the wild run update and The Crew 1 crashes all the time.
In The Crew 2 he can actually play at high settings while having a stable 60fps, even in cities... And has yet to experience a single game crash...
Even on my GTX 1080 The Crew 1 runs at a lower fps compared to The Crew 2.
Joey van de ende Lmao its cause you have msaa on, no one uses msaa its useless.
the fact that TC2 doesnt have NPC Police honestly pisses me off. its one of the reasons the game feels so Dead. they added "Vault Security" vehicles and missions but thats not the same. one of my favorite things to do in TC1 was to mess with the NPC cops. I'd tease them in many ways including pretending to drive slow just to pull off like "ok OK im done, u got me. SYKE! no no for real now, u got me I'll pull over. JK!" and just zoom off at 300mph. Another thing i miss from TC1 was those time trial delivery crate things. those paired with Player Cops were fun as hell. they Have the models for police peds in TC2 as i see them Walking down the side walk not giving a damn about the hundreds of racers going rampant. they added a few new missions/races but tbh who asked for them? im sure players want Cops and Player Cops to come back.
theres also untextured police cruisers sitting in small patches of road construction. not to mention they just recently added Crown Vics that Players can drive both for new "Taxi Missions" or for just plain Street Race Events. the fact they add all the things players dont want is just bad
Why play as a police officer by purchasing a cop vehicle to chase these fake crash dummies in missions that didn't exist in free play? It all makes sense to me as to why they didn't add active police officers patrolling in the crew2. When adding planes and boats, you will find cop chase to be countless because they played a major role for solid ground vehicles. The Crew2 is not even close to GTA 5 lol because they could not make this game any more violent than smashing into other vehicles.
we recently received an update for TC2 that has greatly improved the weather physics, graphics, and sound. Same with physics to some cars.
If Ubisoft makes the crew 3 with the good stuff from TC1 and TC2 i think we got something special
Thecrossingkhan 13 we already have something special with crew 2, its awesome lol
I think the story in crew 2 was so generic, gather followers and move up.
At least crew 1 had a grittier story and multiplayer up front.
@@KevAng039 THANK YOU
The sequel turned it into just another racing game. The 1st one with its storyline and capturing the atmosphere of different regions is so much better in my opinion.
@@TaylorTrace90 no problem, gotta call it like I see it.
Seems like every game of a new ip, such as the crew, has a decent story, better environment that really captures the surroundings of its location better.
The crew did that and the crew 2 did not.
How many sequels turn the story over that much and make it into gathering followers to move up social media leaderboard.
The sequel could have been so much better, when I played it, it felt dead in the water to me last summer or fall or whenever it came out.
Hardly ever saw another person in the game, always saw generic ai drivers.
Great potential ruined by a crap story, was really hoping to see a geographically correct looking USA but that didn't happen either.
I know the distance isn't going to happen, but come on, why does Long Island run North and South off of NYC?
@@KevAng039 imo TC2 is a downgraded FH4.
The Crew almost looks like real life at 2:38 compared to The Crew 2
That's why I LOVE the crew 1
Just missing a T-shirt
@@Nitrous0xide_ it’s kinda boring ngl
@@tutorialsbyaaron6707 I finished the story and I agree it gets boring but the graphics are crystal clear
@@Nitrous0xide_ yes the graphics on the crew is amazing THATS why I have both games. I play crew 2 for the races. And I play the crew just for the roleplay and the police. Love both games.
Off topic, but I love listening to synthwave music and driving aimlessly around America. The general vibe of the first game is something I love
I actually dowmloaded it so I could ride to it in my real life ride. Nice lil tune...
Doesn't the game even feature some synth wave music, from blood dragon?
Yup I’m gonna continue with Horizon 3
We have to wait until the crew 2: wilder run DLC to see some improvements.
Lol
don't forget The Crew 2: Calling No Units...
Haha
How about now? Hubbies update?
The biggest gripe I have with TC2's visuals is probably the lighting. I could notice this as soon as I played it, it's like you're wearing sunglasses or looking through a tinted window. Furthermore, it makes desert landscapes like the Las Vegas region and grand canyon look discolored. What should be a vibrant red/orange/yellow in some places is more of a muddy brown color which takes away from the aesthetic in my opinion. Overall though, the visuals are an improvement, especially in the snow and various reflections. Just a shame they couldn't nail both.
personally I think they both look great but in different ways, the crew was more realistic and the lighting was closer to reality while the crew 2 is more picture like, vibrant colors and reflections with a lot of detail on the cars and the objects in its close surroundings but everything that is even remotely out of focus is blurred out and the lighting is again more vibrant but darker to let the colors shine in focus
its like if the game was edited to have a depth of field picture effect constantly which is pretty as long as you never look away from your car
Today the game got a graphics update and now it looks like The Crew 1.
Thank goodness the play-doh days are just a memory.
You should do a comparison on weather conditions, where The Crew 2 beats the previous game by a lot, the reflections and everything, also vegetation in the off-road areas should deserve a comparison too, TC2 has a lot more variety of vegetation.
Yeah that's a very good point. Though I did say specifically that the reflective surfaces in The Crew 2 are better. I was going to compare puddles in The Crew 2, but there's no way to force puddles on in the photo mode. You have to wait for the game to rain on its own
Though.. granted... both game's vegetation is pretty outdated. The Crew 2's trees often remind me of the terrible vegetation in Mafia III.
Still, you should make another video comparing these points in both games if you really want to go in depth.
But also compare the realism. Like snow in Miami.
It really is like mafia 3 , i was trying to remember where i have seen that quality of vegetation before but couldnt place it.
But it truly is , they better come up with a HD texture pack or something .
Game is only 27GB i wont mind install another 27GB for better visuals
Filipe1020 true mate
I don't know... The Crew had so many more fun things! Emotional story, cops, military bases, airplanes that actually take off and land, and you felt like more of an outlaw badass. The Crew 2 took all of those great feelings away. Although The Crew 2 does have a bit of a graphics boost, as well as planes and boats and houses, but the story was cringe-worthy and the open-world was empty.
the crew 2 has do deal with flying at high altitude, added volumetric clouds, and new water rendering which looks nice, screen space reflections, and all that has to run on same hardware (consoles), with the same power budget, they had to cut somewhere else...
topper Harley But why isn’t there a balance? Couldn’t they make the skies look better while flying, the buildings and terrain better while driving, and the water surface better while in a boat? Surely they could, we have technology that allows objects to look more detailed when the camera is close, and less detailed when they’re far away, couldn’t that be adapted for each vehicle and the terrain they’re more likely to see? For example you wouldn’t need to render high quality roads and cars when you’re in a boat or plane, and you wouldn’t need high quality clouds and water when you’re driving a car, so the game would prioritize the objects you’re more likely to see up close and make them more detailed. But instead of that the game looks terrible everywhere
@@schwiftzone413 that's something that will definitely be possible with next gen consoles.
The crew 2 looks way better to me as the game doesn’t need you to look at every individual bench or tree. It’s meant for to drive around a huge map at very high speeds.
Hazbro Gaming tree and bench poly simulator 2180
IDK. I mean I like my computer resources on the multiplayer part of a game called the crew. And not focused and everything else. If I want visuals I'll go play a single player game. But if you still wonder look at any game that requires many people, the more you connect the less the system has to use for the environment. Which means less stability.
Gameplay has literally nothing to do with graphics.
"SO WHAT IF THE GAME HAS WORSE TEXTURES AND LESS THINGS, IT WAS MADE TO DRIVE AROUND"
Yeah, nobody cares what it was meant to be, we are discussing graphics here.
@@The_Viktor_Reznov he should re-title to direct graphical comparison. Its a misleading title. But if we are talking about graphics. Be happy we arent using xbox and PlayStation 1 graphics. Or even ps2 and 360 graphics lol
Hazbro Gaming well explain this 2:38the crew 2 city looks horrible compared to the crew
But overall the graphics looks better on the crew 2, if you actually played both game, you would know the crew 2 looks so much better. If you don’t believe me, go each gameplay videos, this dude just tried find things that look worse in the game.
Not Royal Skyline Agree
Yep
It's odd - it looks worse in side-by-side pictures, but when you're actually playing, the impression is that it looks much better.
I don't understand why. Maybe it's to do with the reflective surfaces?
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Not Royal Skyline you got that right
The crew: looks better (graphics)
The crew 2: plays better (gameplay)
I never played the first 1 but personally I love The Crew 2. I started playing it on ps now a few months ago and have been addicted to it ever since.
Same just started yesterday it looks good to me and I get to play with the homies ☺️
Me too! I got it free on PS Now until it left last week so I went out and bought it!
@@johnlim211 Crew 1 is better
Glad you did this video. I was comparing my screenshots from crew 1 and noticed how much better they looked.
True, there are some epic moments graphically in crew 2. But midday looks like a ps2 or ps3 game. I avoid these times to race because the trees and building look horrid. Like a 10 year old racer with a 4k update.
Also, there were so many events that I loved from the crew 1. Some races that I would continually redo true to how incredible the stretch of environment was that they took place in. All those areas are completely barren now. And I cant find reasons to cruise as I cant see the terrain style from the stupid white cartoon map and there will be one get away skill for the entire region. Why!!!!!!!!
I wouldn't be surprised if they will put out another graphics update for The Crew 2 somewhere down the line. If The Crew 1 before Wild Run was compared to this then The Crew 2 would have won clearly.
Weather, water and even rain reflections looks a lot better in The Crew 2. The Crew 2 also runs a lot better and is way more stable in terms of crashes (The Crew 2 hasn't crashed once for me) unlike The Crew 1, a buddy of mine is playing on a GTX 780 and can get 60fps stable on high settings, where as in The Crew 1 (even before Wild Run graphics update) he had to lower it to medium and sometimes to low in cities to maintain 60 fps.
In map design some stuff has changed in The Crew 2, Las Vegas for example has gotten a lot more highway roads and intersection outside the city, Some area's have been revamped and the Desert and Forest area's especially looks a lot better in comparison to The Crew 1.
With all that said though, if you already liked The Crew 1, chances are you will like The Crew 2. despite the graphical decreases, and the game still looks pretty good. I have been playing The Crew 1 from day one, and personally when i played The Crew 2 it looked a lot better to me. After seeing this comparison i see that's not the case in all situations, but i didn't notices these things when playing The Crew 2. The Crew 2 has a lot more gameplay variety and this is where the game shines imho. Thanks for reading :)
Joey van de ende lucky, I've crashed twice and I'm a PlayStation player
Can't wait to see Crew 2 vs Crew Motorsport comparison
I was actually looking to play The Crew 2 after the Crew one because i assumed the age difference would have given it better graphics
Word
The Crew 2 looks unfinished.
Performance was also a big improvement I was looking forward to in 2. Crew1 was killer on your cpu and I would never run it without my cooler at max.
The problem for me in The Crew 2 is details on the map. You can drive in a garage but everything is messed up and by your home there’s a glitched garage entrance so when you enter it then it will make your car invisible until you drive out again. And you can find a lot of bad detailed stuff around the map. Like floating stuff. Holes in the ground and plenty of other bad detailed stuff that they didn’t even bother working on
There's something on TC2 that mekes me feel like playing in a giant movie set, specially in city's areas. It like I'm playing test drive unlimited with some grafic mods. I like the game but it feels very very weird
Well... I played The Crew 1 from the beginning and it was amazing! I was maxim level and everything, but I just got the crew 2 on Friday and I love it so far! but think of it like Destiny 1 and Destiny 2 there was a point where D1 was better than D2, but the second game will improve
The thing that I'm upset about is that they didn't include any story, i know that in ythe crew 1 story was kinda bad, but it gave me something for to remember the game, otherwise its just a driving simulator, and btw the character models on the crew 2 look like models for half life 1 from 1998. And the game doesn't have that feeling, the soundtrack that you get lost while you drive 400 km/h through a canyon or a mountain, speaking of the mountains, well just boot up the game and start sreaching for them, you'll propably never find them and that was one of the more enjoyable parts kf the map the challenging snowy road and the beautiful grphics quality
TheCrew is actually meant for driving simulator bcs the concept is from TDU
This is just nostalgic,i used to play the crew 1 so muchhhh
hey nick, is the crew 1 in the graphic comparison is with the wild run graphics?
As a long time The Crew player, I find The Crew 2's graphics better. Yes, some textures are downgraded, but aside from that, it beats the first one, especially regarding vegetation, overall lighting and water.
The reason for the downgrade is that with the ability to fly planes, they needed to extend the viewing distance without crippling FPS.
Unfortunately, it seems that nobody at Ivory Tower knows how to properly optimize a game (I'm not going to say nobody at Ubisoft, because e.g. AC Unity is actually pretty well optimized and almost ahead of its time visually).
A good example that shows this failure are Screen Space reflections. The FPS hit is massive, the difference between low and high is around 5%, which is fine, but off to high is close to 30%.
30% FPS decrease for the "easy type" of reflections. The reason for this is, next to there being a little more reflective surfaces than necessary (you can live without some reflections on rough surfaces), that the quality of the refelctions basically doesn't decrease with distance. So, if I'm looking down a river and seeing shitloads of reflections, then all of them will be rendered at full quality, up to a distance at which they just disappear entirely.
I wouldn't be suprised if objects and textures work similarly, and that's why we have reduced object density and environment textures.
Now, that is probably the reason for the downgrade, but not an excuse. It's just terrible optimization, and while it is great that Ubisoft is adding content with updates, keeping the game fresh and exciting, it would be really amazing if they got working on this. Unfortunately, I don't think it would be worth it financially, so they won't bother.
I agree, after the last update Nov.13 the game is very different. To me they ruined it. It seems like they are using a cheaper model of the game. I wondered why until I was at the store and saw the price of TC2 is now 29.93 it was 49.93 not to long ago.
Not sure if that has anything to do with it but downgrades are usually done for financial reasons.
Why did they have to add planes? The controls are so clunky and unintuitive! I absolutely hate what they did.
@@pbjracing14yearsago49 then go back to the first one
@@pbjracing14yearsago49 I wonder the same. The planes are so boring and controll like garbage, the game would have been better if they leaft them out. You can't even use the second stick ffs. Even Diddy Kong racing on the N64 had significantly better airplane controlls than the crew 2. Well, DKR was actually a game with quality but still. It is 20 years difference.
They say they more focussed on bigger map. It means if the map we got in crew 2, if it was double its original size then we get graphics looking like gta san andreas and if the map is 4x bigger then graphics would be like vice city. Hell!!
Bro I wanna know are the graphics improved through patches in 2020??
Have you seen the train tracks lol. They look like a 2 year old put them in the game.
The crew 2: sound
Forza: driving
In the original game, the cities have distinct personalities because of the effort made with a good number of real-life locations and landmarks recreated. In the sequel, a lot of this has been wiped away with generic models. I have been going back and forth between the two games comparing locations and it has been very eye opening. Seattle, Los Angeles, Chicago, Detroit -- all of them are a lot more detailed in the original. Crew 2 is not just the same map but with less polygons and lower-res textures. It seems like these locations are actually smaller in Crew 2, with some streets if not whole neighborhoods removed. In Crew 2 you can pick most any city and drive around its streets and there's not much to distinguish one from the next, but in Crew 1 every street looks somewhat different because there are more unique landmarks drawn from the real-life locations. And even when generic structure assets are used, there seems to be a much larger pool of them available and of course their models are more detailed.
It's a shame, especially since as far as I can tell nobody really uses airplanes much in Crew 2 (air events are not often included in the LIVE Summits these days) and the theory is that the airplanes are what caused such devastation to the Crew 1 world map.
There are other ways in which Crew 1 is better -- more skill types (8 vs 3, if you only count cars), larger numbers of skills (600 vs about 190), police chases, a lengthy campaign storyline that takes you on a tour of the map, and more. Don't forget data stations and hidden vehicles. Also, the Crew 1 world feels more alive with more traffic, more pedestrians, and various types of aircraft flying overhead. Holding out hope for a Crew 3 that returns the series to some of these things. (A return of Faction War would also be nice, but only if they can figure out how to prevent one faction from dominating at all times)
They need to iron out TC2 first before even thinking about a third game. What they did to the nighttime, for one, feels so unprofessional and i'm surprised that it hasn't been fixed to this day.
Nick, tomorrow the Demolition Derby update will be released and they confirmed some updates in the graphics, could you do a new comparison between previous and new graphics once it's out?
Possibly. I'm working on some Just Cause comparisons atm, and we have Super Smash coming later this week. But I'll see what I can do. Still would like to see how Crew 2 stacks up to Forza Horizon 4
if a crew 3 is made, there needs to be world wide gameplay options
But you'd have to pick which location to go to, for example:
If I wanna go to London, I select it in the main menu. (The cycle continues for each country/continent)
That will probably mean that it won’t be playable on PlayStation or Xbox. It will probably only run on pc. Idk thought if it did run on PlayStation and Xbox the graphics would be horrible
@@tutorialsbyaaron6707 you’re forgetting Flight Simulator and the fact that Xbox Series X and PS5 have graphical power between the RTX 3070 and RTX 3060 Ti
@@tamman994 true…. Should’ve thought of that.)
@@tamman994 Flight Simulator is a satellite/ai rendered world and has little details, The Crew games are hand crafted replicas of the US. A Crew game in the entire world would take too long, cost too much, and be too buggy.
This really reminds me of the dissapointment Watch Dogs 2 brung after the 1st installment. Watch dogs 1 and The crew 1 both had a pretty sad back story which develops pretty well meanwhile Watch dogs 2 and The crew 2 both have the whole Social media basis. They feel childish, arcadish and bring no story development whatsoever... what can I say Ubisoft can really bring new features to the table on 1st installments
Such a shame it's online only. The mod community would've had a great time creating a more fleshed out map in either game.
If you are playing The Crew 2 on PC with Nvidia graphics, you can add filters to the game to make it look different. I have it set so it looks close enough to how the first game looks.
I think your cherry picking here a little. First of all compare the flat square roads of tc1 to tc2, where they naturally weave and dip. There's also the grey hue and lack of colors that cover much of tc1. I don't know how it is on pc but on ps4 there's also the weird slight flickering of all static objects and buildings while moving.TC2 has far superior weather and atmosphere (volumetric clouds)
Field of view effects as your moving, generally the use of far more assets and less repeats (minus some of the strangely missing landmarks) better vegetation by a lot. same for water. A lot of the pictures that are showing these "better textures" are a little misleading since its not showing the graphics in motion, how things look naturally when the game is running.
what might look good in a screen shot might look like garbage when your in game or slowly rolling passed it. I'm not going to mention the reflections because you did cover that. I think this opinion that TC2 looks worse than TC1 is the popular opinion going around right now, due to a lot of people shitting on this game because its not Forza Horizon.
In a world as big as the crew 1 and 2 its very easy to drive around and find things that look better or worse than the other, its impossible for ether game to always look consistent due to its massive size. If I wanted to make this game look worse then a ps2 game I could. Just by driving around and eventually finding something to pick apart and compare.
Now I do get that that's kind of the point of these videos, and it represents your opinion, But I just wanted to point out that when all of the moving parts actually come together in game, TC2 looks IMO far better. Now if you want to stare at benches or debate how/where the grass grows? Then maybe stick with TC1. Just my opinion.
Very well put sir. The crew 2 is so immersive with the size of its map
I disagree with both of you. Try tdu2 and honestly alot better than the crew and the crew 2.
Proteus XL Wow you seem upset. I'm not arguing I'm just saying that these companies could do alot better.
This is not cherry picking. These are very basic graphical effects. I didn't drive around and LOOK for something that looked bad. I picked a very specific point in the game world, not knowing what I'd find when comparing various elements. The bench, the tree, the grass, the ground, the lighting. I even went to several MAJOR sections of the game. All of these look worse based on the following properties.
Texture
Lighting
Shadows
Object Density
Water Quality
What you're asking me to do is cherry pick. Find anything that looks good in The Crew 2 just so I can say it's been improved. It hasn't. Just because there's new features like more offroading and therefore more vegetation, doesn't mean the graphics were improved. Same goes for the clouds, which were only put in because of the new aerial gameplay. Of course the Crew 2 would have more clouds... the Crew 1 didn't need them.
Fact is, basic elements from the first game have been downgraded in this new game. Reflective surfaces are about the only thing that has improved when it comes to visuals. From a gameplay standpoint, I'm really enjoying the Crew 2.
Like the last game, a dlc with graphical enhancements will probably release in a few months, I just fail to understand why that couldn’t have been implemented during release. But for now the graphics are good enough to still have an enjoyable experience.
The Crew wasn't ready
The point of crew 2 is the fun. Also the natural things like water or rocks are much better than in the crew 1. The cars textures are better and the dark ambient it’s pretty cool giving a cool aspect to the vheicles
At the end of the day its not about the graphics in a racing game. The gameplay itself has improved and thats what atracts new players
Just like the first Crew, hopefully The Crew 2 will get a graphics update at some point.
"tHE gAmPlaY iS WhAt MAtTeRs"
Yeah if it aint 60$.
There are plenty of games with not-so-great graphics that play amazingly that were $60, so dont pull "its $60" bullshit, about any game today is that much.
Inny74 this is supposed to be the successor of the crew and you expect people to be ok with the downgrade? It would make sense if it was just a singular game that doesn’t have any predecessors because no one would expect the new one to be worse than the first.
Science butReversed graphics dont matter as long as the game played better.
Furthermore, I wouldnt consider the sequal as an overall "downgrade." Sure, the graphics werent so great, but it did add more stuff.
Does it mean it is good? In my opinion, no. I still play the first game because the sequel wasnt for me. There is plenty of sequels that didnt have good graphics compared to the predecessor, but yet was better than the first game.
Science butReversed Also, the "downgrade" is pretty much the graphics, story and lighting anyway, barely anything that'll hinder the gameplay, as no person playing a racing game even expects a story. Even then you can just ignore the story and be on your way exploring the, albeit, ugly USA.
Again, just to get it in your head: you dont need eye popping visuals to make a game good, or to make a console sell better than others anyway.
Inny74 the gameplay isn’t even in anyway appealing to be considered a 60$ game,they added new content like boats and plane but it’s in no way necessary to be a new game.the whole thing feels like a dlc to me so i find this game to be 100% disappointing.
The story is also far boring than the first.
i'd like u to do a revised version with tha upcomming new heist update in november 2020 for The Crew 2
I like the concept and racing part of it along with the sounds but if you want to go graphics wise this game could use another year or maybe 2
Like if you have both the crew 1 and the crew 2
ethanmiller6305 well I dont have either but what do you think I should get the crew or the crew 2?
@@Zenketsu0 i got crew 2 and I love it
First ones better cause it has a storyline and it doesn’t copy forza horizon 3
I have project cars and project cars 2 )
"It's all beta, the game will look better on the final version"
Oh to be naive in the gaming industry.
When I played the beta I really thought the graphics were downgraded for the sake of quick downloads. The Crew 2 is such a disappointment
funny, because they're saying exactly the same excuse about Halo Infinite now. "it's an early build, it hasn't launched yet!" we never learn
Ivan Rosa gears of war 4 beta graphics looked horrible but in lunch the textures were 100% better then the beta
Why y’all complaining about these graphics while it’s just a FREAKN race game. The copyright was a problem for them.
The best thing about the Crew 1 was the main story and the graphics of the game and the best thing about the Crew 2 was the game modes there was more things to do btw I loved the story from original game
Getting the crew after vacation. Cant wait
Just typical Ubisoft. The first part, as I know, had been being made a few years (to make such a big map), so they, as always, downgrade everything to make 💰 work less troubles
And then they mix TC with TC2 and say it's the NEW TC3
We are talking of 3 yrs ago the crew 2 has released many more updates and has improved on everything
Did this change after updates? Compared to The Crew 2 in 2021?