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- The beach of the living dead ! These old workhorses continue to give good service long after the field work is finished. The sea is a cruel and harsh master but they don't give up easily !
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It's such a shame to see them rotting away, I'm a fisherman myself and understand that they need them for launching and retrieving, but if they had somewhere to store they probably wouldn't be as bad
It’s the salt
There is fisher here in Sweden that use a old volvo bm650 using it to launch his boat out and take it in he wash it off after evey use it to make sure that traktor doesn't Rust away is still looks like it when it was New just a Little bit Sun bleached now that traktors been there sense 1976 new
They better keep them going cos the new tractors in a few years , won’t last a week
This hurts to watch the TW 20 Rotting away
As much as this was painful to watch coming from a bluecollar background I understand the necessity of it.
I live near Caister, some very sad old beasts down by the lifeboat station. It is sad but it is not wanton destruction, just people trying to make a living. They are maintained and patched up but it is a losing battle.
The TW20 is mine, the 956 was my brother's, which has now gone and been replaced with another Muir hill.
Der arme 956 XL... Einfach schade drum. Und hier in Deutschland kann die inzwischen keiner mehr bezahlen.
The TW 20 and the 956 is almost criminal to leave it to the sea. 🚜
Being a commercial fisherman myself for the last 45 years, I found it very interesting that they launch their boats from the beach, and then haul them back up. But probably the way they have been doing it for years, and have no other options in their area.
I did see on one of the boats Gt Yarmouth, had a chuckle as I live in Yarmouth, Nova Scotia.
I can remember in my parents time and before that, pretty much all fishermen, were farmers as well. They had families to feed and money was not abundant at that time, so if you could fish and make a little, and farm to help feed, and sell a little, everything seemed to come together. It seemed as if it was a much happier time, not the jealousy that is so prevalent today.
Poor carb fishers: Getting framed for murdering good used tractors. You cant save them all and unless they make tractors from plastic and stainless steel only this cycle will continue...
If they could talk, they'd probably say....."Sure, I'm going to my death, but i served my time on the farm and now im living my later years. Im glad to have a second life" 🙂🚜
I was born in Norfolk and have lived here all my life. I too feel sad when I visit Cromer to see the decay and rust of these old tractors. At least they are still doing the job they were built for, not rotting behind a barn. Great Vlog, thanks for giving Cromer a mention Lord Muck.
I have an association with that particular Muir Hill 121 tractor going back 40 years.
It was originally supplied by Tractamotors of Melton Mowbray in 1974/75. I was born & bred in Melton Mowbray and lived there until 1997. In 1982 when I was an Agricultural Mechanic for R.Cripps we took this particular tractor in p/x for an IH 1255. This Muir Hill was then sold to Richard Chandler Agricultural Contractor and after the service, prep and clean I welded 14 Bettinson lugs, 7 each to each side of each of the wheel rims making a total of 56 lugs I welded on to this wheel set.
The pattern on each side of each rim was one master lug with two others at 120° arcs for cage wheels and 4 others welded at 72° arcs for dual wheels. In September 1983 I was then working for Scalford Tractors and this Muir Hill tractor was brought into us with a stuffed rear differential. Dick Barker the tractor workshop foreman was doing the repairs, but I was sent to over to Nelson Greens to strip out a S/H crown wheel, pinion, diff, half shafts and all the bearings, etc. Which I did from a scrap Muir Hill EX MOD military engineering loader-excavator.
in 1987 when I was working for Burgess Farm Industries, Richard Chandler traded-in this Muir Hill on a two new tractors deal. A Fiatagri 90-90DT with A/c, 540/1000/ground speed PTO and 4 remote spools; 3 double acting and 1 single acting. All 4 were plumbed to the rear of the tractor but three ball valves and tee’s also redirected one double acting and the single act service to the front for a winter mounted snow plough (lift + left & right angle) the second tractor was a Fiatagri 70-90DT fitted with a Chillton MX Loader and I mounted the manual cable joystick on the left hand side of the cab, thus allowing right handed gear and range shifts whilst working the loader. The Muir Hill was driven by me the 15 miles or so to the Thistleton Tractor and Farm machinery auctions and that was the last I saw of it….. for a while!
I moved to Norfolk in 2006 and in the past 2 years since retiring I have become a regular visitor to Cromer. I was last in Cromer on Thursday 25th of August with my 8-year-old Great Nephew and his two friends. We noticed this Muir Hill and I took down the serial number details, etc. and they matched those in my diaries.
Did you notice the anomaly with the wheels & tyres?
16R38 on the fronts and 12R38 on the rears, but the rims and centres had been set out so both sets were the same outside overall widths. The rims & centres were also post 1983 GKN Sankey 8 stud X 8 bolt square dishes. Before 1983 the GKN Sankey wheels were 8 stud x 8 bolt octagon dishes. … so they are not the wheels I welded the lugs on for Richard Chandler.
Please see my photos of this Muir Hill Tractor: facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10159417867413387&set=a.10159041629578387
That's fantastic ! Imagine seeing it again after all these years. They seem to fit those square dish rims to the Muir-Hills at Cromer. Maybe the originals are worth saving...
Sad to see melod but as you say, bought fair and square to earn a living. To be honest l don't like crabs of any kind or shellfish. I am seem to recall seeing old tractors on trips to the beach.
Quite sad to see the TW, 956 and Muirhill there. To save them from their peril would require more than money because you need a place, time and resources to fettle them.
Very interesting stuff to see.
The thing worth considering is that old metal will get hard to replace… simple, rugged tractors and crawlers as long lasting as those aren’t made anymore.
I suspect the cost of a bi yearly waxoyl would be money well spent for the owners
they are still being made, the chinese and ex yugoslawia still makes em like the agromehanika tractors
That TW20, aw man
at least theyre not rotting in some rotting wooden barn in kansas forgotten and sad
they may be old and rusty..but hey at least theyre working
Can’t believe the old majors are still on the beach😢
I used to walk past all those tractors as a boy every year sad to see them disintegrate like that,keep up the good work mucker 👍
Truly heart breaking, that TW20 for christ sake
ATB
Dave
That was a tough watch! Christ, it's akin to visiting elderly friends/relatives in a care home...
Hard to see when you know what's going to happen isn't it ?
I am actually quite sad for the TW20 but all these tractors are serving a most brave and noble last chapter to help the fisherman provide for themselves. Very intersting would like to see these tractors in person thank you for sharing.
Great vid as usual! Reminds me of Hastings beach. There the fisherman are now using Komatsu’s and Cats and the odd big Thwaits dumper. But in years gone by they were nearly all Track Marshalls. Cheers
There is a place called coromane near ne where they do the same on a smaller scale.
Next thing the environmentalist will want to stop them because of the rust .
I know salt water is bad for them, but you’d think the owners would take better care of the tractors.
In fairness, for the facilities and the conditions, those fishermen probably do more to keep their tractors running than a lot of farmers would.
Lord Muck its crying shame to see so many classics rotting away it's just a pity they can't wash them down and store away from the weather ☹️
It's a sad sight. Ironic that a Fiat seems to handling it well!
That Tw 20 needs to be saved.. 😭
Nah a bit of filler will sort that Ford out Mucka..
Great video I saw a Ford 8210 slowly dissolving away in wales and there was a Ford 7810 that had just been left in the water after the harbour had been closed over night
I like an old clean tractor as much as the next guy but there’s something I love about seeing old machines serving out their final years like this. We don’t need a breeding pair, as long as there’s one perfect example somewhere I’m fine with it.
I live on the coastline in Ireland and my local mechanic says about 60% of his costumers problems are rust related problems. We have good views by the sea but large mechanical bills ☹️
As the owner of the TW20 ,i know its sad to see one on the beach here, but unfortunately the fordsons aren't big enough for my boat.
Yes it's a big boat Paul. Are you able to slow the inevitable ? Some kind of rust prevention ?
I have some rust prevention stuff to paint on it when I can get it dry, spray a diesel an oil mix on a lot of it, but being a public beach l get a few complaints, also council don't even give us use of a tap or electric down there
Have you tried ProLan from Withams ? Incredible stuff and also enviro-friendly
Will have a look, would like to try and keep this one going for a few years, had a 101 before this, that got stuck in reverse gear when I was being launched, you wouldn't believe they float.
@@LordMuck Thank you just ordered 5 litres,sounds like it will slow things down, when you come to Cromer again try to look me up,come for a trip to sea.
Rough tractors but great stories.
Salt air has always been brutal on sheet metal 🚜🇬🇧
Some fun if you run out of diesel to crack off a diesel pipe and not much sign of a grease gun ha haha 😆 😉
Been their in real life mate will you be at the eastern county tractor show I’ll be with a Ford son stranded n plate EPW 566
Its kind of sad to see them rot away like this i wish someone made a tractor just for fishermen so they dont get corroded
It's not always a death sentence, a neighbour of bought a 165 last year that spent the last 20 years bringing in and letting out boats on the beach and he's after fully restoring it, now it did need a good few new bits including, wheels, spindles and a cab but now she's as good as new. Shame to see such rare machines left to the elements.
That's good but the rust will probably return unfortunately. I've seen tractors blasted bare and repainted that had worked in water and the salt seems to get right in to them. I wonder if location (Atlantic, North Sea, English Channel etc) has an affect ? Is it possible some are worse than others as I've seen beach tractors in Wales but they seem to fare better ? It's good he saved the 165.
I think the problem with tractors
Everyone love’s them but not many people can afford to keep one store it and look after it.
Maybe if 2 or 3 enthusiasts get together and buy a tractor between them then more can be saved.
Interesting video , very sad to see some of those old tractors rusting away. I bet changing a wheel would be challenging. Those rusty nuts are bound to shear off .
Great vid mukker love going round looking at all the old kit at some beaches still earning a crust
Daddy why is that man crying?
Son he’s a tractor enthusiast
Great old tractors, shame they are going to rot away but they are keeping peoples livelihood going.
Search Ngawi beach NZ on youtube. Famous in NZ for its Crawler tractors.
Oh no you just don’t do that to a 956 😭
Cow Manure is pretty bad for corrosion.
Hello mucker!! Here in Portugal we have a big extension of beaches so in lots of them they use the same way to put in or out the wather the boats or to pull the nets with fish from the sea. I find lots os masseys,fiats,fords david browns a f some of then with french plates for example!! I have fotographed the mist of all that i can find allong the years!! A few years ago a saw a ford county in one of those beaches, every year i go there to try to see it again and since that day i never saw it again, but i didn't gave up to find it..yet!!🤣 nice vid mucker!!
Ive been to the big beach south of Lisbon laszt year and could find some Masseys pulling boats back in, they where in good condition tho not rusty at all, the nicer weather down there sure helps alot :)
What a brilliant video such a treat to see those amazing tractors I know a lot will say they are wasted but they are someone’s living vital to survival they can’t all be hidden away wrapped in cotton wool in someways that’s nearly as bad thanks again for such a great look at these machines doing what they were built for 👍😊
I do not know if it is still there but at Holkham beach there used to be the remains of something sticking out of the sand, all that could bee seen was an engine that was quite literally eaten in half by salt water, no idea how long it had been there but the design of the block suggested it was made in the late 20's or early 30's.
I remember that as a child, 40+years ago. I was always told it was a landing craft damaged in exercises. I remember sticking my hands into the sand in the dunes and pulling out handsful of .303 ammunition and cases from the D-Day rehearsals.
I understand the fishermen need em but I wish they had a place to not only store them but to also wash them off of the salt water and that’s trusting that they’d care to wash em. Heck at least they could occasionally spray them with wd40 to slow down the rusting.
Sanders let the TW go bad with rust rough man 🤣
Being in the U S I’ve never seen those brands of crawler tractor,Thank you for showing them to us …..
It can't be cheap buying some of the tractors so with that said to protect the investment a gallon of paint will protect the tractor so it will last a lot longer
I wonder what happens when the only stuff left on the market is from the post-electronics era and simply won’t take the same abuse? Got to credit the original designers of the older kit, it can survive some hammering, well beyond what it was originally planned for and without obsolecence designed in as it seems to be today. I take they view that the list of classics is now sealed forever, unrepairable electronics will prevent anything new from joining that list.
if you go down late at night, i bet you can hear them sobbing
That steep and shelved gravel beach reminds me of bracing winter walks from my then-home at Hemsby up to Winterton on Sea, where legs tired from walking on shifting gravel would be revitalised with a few pints of local ale in the Fisherman’s Return PH.
We have some similarly poorly shrimpers tractors here on Southport beach, with some lovely (?) improvised features like mudguards fashioned of the uprights from Dexion shelving and plywood to replace the long-gone tinwork.
So enjoyed this video that has links to periods of my life separated by almost 40 years - true nostalgia!
It's sad to see but also like you said a living has to be made. I've seen a few in 2002 in Zoutkamp the Netherlands 🇳🇱 also a fishing area in the province of Groningen. I seen a wonderful example that was fully restored wish I would've talked to him and ask what kind if live it had it was pulling boats around
My local seaside town (withernsea) has a heap of Murhills and MF 2680's just rusting away sadly
Good video. Shows just what the salt does to anything iron. With the amount of road salt that gets dumped on our highways in Ontario, Canada this was a common site for old cars and trucks. I used to buy the cheapest old beater just for the winter. If I got 2 winters I was money ahead. It is a shame to see so many go this way but they did give their all.
I think this video is the closest I will get to a holiday this year.
Someone should make a stainless and plastic tractor.
There's a product called fluid film. I put it on everything. Even hydraulic fittings last much longer. Always a good show !
Watched an old 360 slowly disintegrate over a few years on the west coast of Scotland went from vg to ng in 6 years sea finally claimed it
I remember the MH you were on about....you could have knocked the cab off with a tennis ball 🙈
In fact there was a Nuff universal four that was in better nick
Before the Fordsons In the early 70s there was rows of Marshall's, can just remember being shown them as a little boy.
Unfortunately the salt kills them but there still earning there keep. Pretty much what happens to them on the West coast of Scotland. Most of them them are still in use.👍
Caister beach is exactly the same there little David brown 880 buried in the sand owner won’t sell it
I'm just glad they're getting used instead of just sitting and rotting
If you’re ever down the south coast check out Hastings beach, they have the same thing and there are some awesome rusting beasts there still being used
Hard to see them like that. But its also a testimate at just how well made they are, to keep running and working in that environment over the years until they just collapse.
As you said, the fishermen need to make a living too.
Great video. Keep up the good work.
I enjoyed that , something about old machinery, telling its own story 👍
I completely understand those that are disappointed in the slow death of these tractors.
I take a bit more controversial point of view - They are living out their working hours. There is no shame in running them into the ground.
I often visit withernsea that’s the same tractor’s spending their last years upto the axels in salt water.
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Great video lm the coastal environment is very harsh I live onthe east coast of Ireland right at the sea you’d be amazed how quick metal rusts I’ve a big fiat 160/90 but she’s in a heated shed other wise she rot to bits with the salty air
Oh dear that 956 would bring a tear to a glass eye and those Case’s aren’t far behind it for me, very interesting video 👌
Good afternoon One would think that the Council could come up with a jetty for the crab season. Sad to see the tractors ending up like they are. Good knows UK Councils can quote chapter and environmental verse , when they want to. Suits, get out there and sort the problem for these Crab people and don’t be changing them either !!! God knows you are being paid enough to protect the Environment !!!
You'd think they'd have a different way of shoring boats.
Well mucker what an excellent video throughly enjoyed that I didn't know they ever used tracked machines certainly opened my eyes well done👌
It's so sad to see that Ford and many others but still so cool to know their workhorses and to see them work when most tractors with just a bit of surface rust goes to a scrap yeard, I don't think I would mind buying a beach tractor, their probably cheap to buy and super reliable
They're probably rusted to fuck and everything is seized.
As someone who has a beach quad that we use for launching our boat… don’t buy anything that’s lived most of its recent life on a beach and in salt water. The salt destroys everything and just caused so much damage it’s not worth it.
Great video Kurt and Puppo, I feel Your pain, but I get it, it is what it is👌👍🙏🙂
Really enjoyed this one mucker. You should do a “mucker tractor tour” series 👍🏻
I live 10 minutes away from Cromer and have done all my life, seen a lot of tractors come and go over the years, hard to watch them sacrificed to the sea but those crab boys have to earn a living.
Nice video of all the great old tractors
A very interesting video. I've been told by a reputable TH-camr that a straight pipe works wonders on corrosion prevention on those old TWs. Some of those tractors including the TW20 are sort of immortalised in Google Maps.
He also reckons it's good luck to touch a cat inappropriately
seguramente funcionaran casi todos la falta detanta tecnologia los hace faciles deusar saludos muck
Its a shame that all they really needed to do was to pool together and build a shed down there somewhere to keep them out of the elements, but again there not farmers so I suppose a tractor to them is just a tool, they don't look at them the same way a farmer would who spends the full day in it..
I raise you a fisherman and give you a stock farmer... 😂
@@LordMuck 😆
Just the same it is rather sad to see the sad end of these machines
That TW is real shame. At least it’s still working 😊
Such a shame to see all that history rusting away at least they are going out working just as they was made to do 👍
I could cry 😢 bout that 1594 and the TW
Good but sad video, fully agree with you. At the far end of Skegness there's a few tractors, even more modern ones but the owners really do look after them and do throw alot of money at them to keep em going. But the inevitable will happen and the ravages of time and salt will finish them off.
Another great video Mucker I was wondering if you could could ever possibly do a video on how to go about buying a vintage tractor like a Fordson or Fergie what to look out for etc tips for beginners and the likes maybe a list on top 5 makes or models to start out with? Keep up the good work your content is a1
We are currently working on such a film
I liked this one.
That hotel behind you in Cromer is where my mum and dad had there honeymoon
That track Marshall with the choke in the ram is an old favourite of mine as it the one I used to launch my dive teams RIB (North Norfolk Divers)
Loved the vid Kurt thanks... Take care sir...
Cheers Kev 👍
We do the same to an old UTB thing, putting Ribs in and out of the Deben, only front wheels but the salt water eats everything!
The cut down white plastic patio chair on the Major gets my vote👌
I always liked when they split and would then pinch your leg or arse cheek when you sat down
@@LordMuck I had an auntie that used to do that.
The hungry must be fed...
Over the pond always interesting 🤔