It seems most automotive 12v relays made in China and sold on Amazon don't have a diode in them and light bar sellers are including these with their kits. 12v automotive relays (Bosch style, I think) with diodes are harder to find now and I see them for like $25 for a single relay vs $12 for a 10 pack without diode. I took diodes, shrink tube and double male to single female blade terminals and made little diode jumpers to go across the coil connectors on those relays to compensate. So try that. However, on a light bar I have, the cheap rebranded Amazon type, it causes a lot of interference when switching on and off.
@@1windozesukI ended up getting a Bosch relay with a diode for like $20 llke you said. Definitely feel more comfortable with that protecting backflow into my trucks electrical system. I debated just buying a pack of diodes and wiring it in, thats definitely the cost effective way to go.
Not all coils require a diode, but it's common to use a diode with coils in certain circuits. Coils, particularly inductive loads like relays or solenoids, can produce voltage spikes when the current flowing through them is suddenly interrupted.
@@RGInnovationscan you please explain why using switches does not require the use of diodes in car relays?? I myself also wonder the relays used in automotive vehicles doesn't employ diodes at all. How does it work then?
@@RGInnovations thanks for the reply... One more confusion... When the circuit in the video is closed, the back emf voltage is created with reverse polarity. But, how does the back voltage flow from reverse direction entering the positive side of the diode and coming out of the cathode whose end is basically connected to the original source voltage 12V? Does it mean that the source voltage acts as a SINK when reverse voltage is happening? How does the back current flows from LOWER side to higher side? Doesn't a current always flow from high potential to lower potential?
Please do not mix voltage and current. When we supply 12volt, the current may be 500ma, or 1A, or 2A, but the voltage generated from relay is much higher and current is very very less, say some microamps. Since the generated voltage is AC, it does not depend on the diode polarity. It does not even reach to the DC power source, since the distance between the relay and diode is very less, obviously lesser than the distance of battery, it neutralizes the reverse voltage.
Dear sir , Your video is very informative. But if this video you can make with hindi language it is more effective & u can have more reach. Thank you sir.
So I have a 230v coil relay and a 10amp 1000v silicone rectifier diode for flyback but , this just blows the fuse on whatever power source I use to switch the relay, do you know what I'm doing wrong ?
@@RGInnovations Ikr, the problem im facing is that there is voltage drop of around 1V on the coil of the relay, adding diode with another voltage drop of 0.7v is no good since I have multiple of these in my circuit. How would you deal with this problem? (the power supply is 12V and im using 12 pcs of 18650 batteries)
If you have an input/trigger voltage that can be positive or negative (say existing dc controller for forward and reversing a brushed motor for example) how can you use a relay or relays to trigger the correct polarity on output of the relay?
Hello sir, I want to drive a water pump of around 1/2 kw from a input of 12v DC from a washing machine solenoidal input valve. Bcz I m facing water pressure issues. So I want to run pump as machine take water and automatically shut the pump as it stop to take water. So pls can you tell me detail circuit diagram for it or this same circuit will work for it
@@RGInnovations ohh ok sir.....no its just that i have seen a vedio where it is said that the relay switch,diode and the coil are a complete module built inside!
Thank you for sharing this great video.
This video proved very helpful to me regarding which diode to use
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Excellent explanation brother. Keep up the good work.
Thank you
Im down the diode rabbithole. Installing a lightbar in my truck. Why wouldn't these wire harnesses not have them included
Sorry could not understand what you wanted to say
It seems most automotive 12v relays made in China and sold on Amazon don't have a diode in them and light bar sellers are including these with their kits. 12v automotive relays (Bosch style, I think) with diodes are harder to find now and I see them for like $25 for a single relay vs $12 for a 10 pack without diode. I took diodes, shrink tube and double male to single female blade terminals and made little diode jumpers to go across the coil connectors on those relays to compensate. So try that. However, on a light bar I have, the cheap rebranded Amazon type, it causes a lot of interference when switching on and off.
@@1windozesukI ended up getting a Bosch relay with a diode for like $20 llke you said. Definitely feel more comfortable with that protecting backflow into my trucks electrical system. I debated just buying a pack of diodes and wiring it in, thats definitely the cost effective way to go.
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Nice info sir I want to know even across coil also diode is connected
Not all coils require a diode, but it's common to use a diode with coils in certain circuits. Coils, particularly inductive loads like relays or solenoids, can produce voltage spikes when the current flowing through them is suddenly interrupted.
thanks... how to keep relay energized after pressing push button?
Sorry your question is not clear to me.
also sir why cant we use resistor if the only need is to provide low resistance path to current?
Resistor will continuously flow current, so it will heat up and burn.
Hi, very nice and informative video. Want to know whether can use the same diode for and any 12v relay?
Yes, IN4007 can be used.
@@RGInnovations okay. Thanks for the reply.
i have a question, when we install a relay in the car or any automotive, nobody put diode in it. Won't there be a problem?
car relays are usually connected with switches, in such cases, diode not required.
@@RGInnovationscan you please explain why using switches does not require the use of diodes in car relays??
I myself also wonder the relays used in automotive vehicles doesn't employ diodes at all. How does it work then?
If there is any delicate circuitry used, then there must be diode installed, else the circuit would damage
@@RGInnovations thanks for the reply...
One more confusion...
When the circuit in the video is closed, the back emf voltage is created with reverse polarity.
But, how does the back voltage flow from reverse direction entering the positive side of the diode and coming out of the cathode whose end is basically connected to the original source voltage 12V? Does it mean that the source voltage acts as a SINK when reverse voltage is happening?
How does the back current flows from LOWER side to higher side? Doesn't a current always flow from high potential to lower potential?
Please do not mix voltage and current. When we supply 12volt, the current may be 500ma, or 1A, or 2A, but the voltage generated from relay is much higher and current is very very less, say some microamps.
Since the generated voltage is AC, it does not depend on the diode polarity. It does not even reach to the DC power source, since the distance between the relay and diode is very less, obviously lesser than the distance of battery, it neutralizes the reverse voltage.
Dear sir ,
Your video is very informative. But if this video you can make with hindi language it is more effective & u can have more reach. Thank you sir.
I am also using this method but I wanted to de energize the 12v relay faster. How can i do that?
It is the fastest way
So I have a 230v coil relay and a 10amp 1000v silicone rectifier diode for flyback but , this just blows the fuse on whatever power source I use to switch the relay, do you know what I'm doing wrong ?
What load are you using with the relay?
Is it recommended to always connect diode to the relay, or are there some cases where it is not necessarily?
you should use a diode with any dc inductive coil load.
@@RGInnovations Ikr, the problem im facing is that there is voltage drop of around 1V on the coil of the relay, adding diode with another voltage drop of 0.7v is no good since I have multiple of these in my circuit. How would you deal with this problem? (the power supply is 12V and im using 12 pcs of 18650 batteries)
If you have an input/trigger voltage that can be positive or negative (say existing dc controller for forward and reversing a brushed motor for example) how can you use a relay or relays to trigger the correct polarity on output of the relay?
In motor controller modules, there are internal flyback voltage controller, so need not to use separate diode.
what diode should i use for a 5v relay?
1N4007
Is it normal for a relay to heat up when coil is energized for long run?
usually does not heat if applied rated voltage and current
@@RGInnovations the relay is rated at 12v 80a. My battery pack when charged is around 16v. Is that the issue?
yes
@@RGInnovations ok thanks.
What about 220v AC relay???
Not needed for AC relays,
Hello sir, I want to drive a water pump of around 1/2 kw from a input of 12v DC from a washing machine solenoidal input valve. Bcz I m facing water pressure issues. So I want to run pump as machine take water and automatically shut the pump as it stop to take water. So pls can you tell me detail circuit diagram for it or this same circuit will work for it
use a 220v 15amp relay
@@RGInnovationswill rest of thing be same in circuit except relay ?, Sir may you pls tell a brief information about my issue,, if possible....
Bcz I m novice about electronic. I try to learn it by it own through DIY work
yes, use a diode in the opposite polarity of the power supply...
@@RGInnovations thankyou sir. I appreciate your channel and you prompt action on my query. ...
Is this a type A, B, or C relay?
Type C
24v relay me konsa dioade lagega?
1N4007 will do.
but sir isnt the diode is already built-in?
No the diode is not built in.
@@RGInnovations ohh ok sir.....no its just that i have seen a vedio where it is said that the relay switch,diode and the coil are a complete module built inside!
If it's a module then diode should be there, but in a single relay, diode is not built in.
@@RGInnovations ohhok sir thank you
please keep your video language in urdu hindi. we can measure the back current with dmm that how much volts are back.
the back current flows for very small amount of time, dmm may not be able to monitor such small time. you can measure with DSO.