F1D Indoor Free Flight | Flite Test
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- Josh and Eric got to visit Joshua and Hope Finn while on the trip to South Carolina. Check out Joshua's passion for Free Flight!
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I have never flown these before but I immediately have the utmost respect for anyone who has build one of these things! they look almost like something mother nature would make, something that looks alive.
BlakeTiger had to make one for science Olympiad. It is incredibly difficult and ours only lasted 37.14 seconds
They look like dragonflies to me. :-)
God, sir, you are referring to God.
HENRY FORSTER our team had a rule against kits
HENRY FORSTER yeah, we just modified it to fit the rules
Its almost surreal looking how slow those things move flying around for such a long time.
***** the weight matter
I think most of the shots where recorded in 60fps and slowed down later, so that you can have a better look at the planes. But yeah, they are amazing!
BlackPixxelDE No, the planes actually fly that slow. The prop on a typical F1D turns at 40 to 50 RPM.
But the person s in the background looked really slowed down. But okay :D
BlackPixxelDE thats because if they moved fast, the air disturbances could break the plane.
when this guy was talking about the rubber bands from different years and even months....i felt like i was sleeping and seeing one of those dreams where you realize how unreal it is....
alisher rakhimov ehm what?
They do the same thing with competition bicycle tires.
alisher rakhimov its very interesting what do you mean
It is so unreal how people collect rubber bands from different suppliers and even years.....more unreal than collecting wine by brand and year.....
alisher rakhimov I know right
Sweet! I am 71 and this brings back many happy memories. You guys are awesome.....
Peace.
Hard to believe some of that wasn't slow-mo video. Amazing!
Joshua Bardwell I seen a penny plane in IRL years ago, its pretty mind boggling watching it go
IKR it looks so cool
Thanks for your great ideas
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@@colstace2560 well... maybe. But they really do move that slow. I'm doing a heavier faster class of these aircrafts for a competition that my school takes us to and our planes fly a bit slower than walking speed. Giving it any forward momentum would make it stall. It is very slow.
13:50 That has to be one of the coolest things I've ever seen in my life.
I am your 50th like hiter
An ornithopter
F1A, F1B also crazy
I remember my first balsa wood rubber band powered plane. I got it for Christmas when I was thirteen (1987). It took me months to carve out, glue up and dope the wings properly. I loved the process. Bonded with my Dad a bit too. I took it out for its maiden flight and...
...wound the rubber band in the wrong direction. As I launched it from my hand, the heady anticipation of the beauty of flight filling my mind, the propellor span in the wrong direction and the plane reversed itself forcefully into the ground, shattering into pieces.
If I had wound the rubber band the right way I would probably be in this video alongside these passionate souls, but alas it was my first and last journey into the world of balsa wood model aircraft.
Respect the rubber band, people. It can change the course of your life.
FliteTest. I can't thank you enough for this video. I built and flew 'penny'-type planes indoors in the early 70's in addition to flying control-line and single channel escapement r/c(kraft tube transmitter) Read all the magazines for years and now follow the hobby on the web, always with the greatest of joy and amazement. As blown away as I am by giant scale, 3D, multi-turbine, helicopter, drone, FPV, etc. F1D will, in it's way, always the 'purest' form of the sport of model aviation for me. Your own sense of wonder helps convery how incredible these craft are. They are not really 'models' of anything. They are their own category of craft, really: more 'swimming though the air than flying as some other commenters have noticed. Joshua is an inspiring builder and teacher. Filming in their home was perfect. It made the experience feel very 'accessible' and intimate. Great job and thanks to all. BTW...would this happen to be your most viewed and/or most commented on video? It wouldn't surprise me. I have already enthusiastically shared it with my fb friends a couple of times. Thanks again.
So refreshing to watch a video on youtube, with young people without actually cursing and using bad language. Kudos guys. Our whole family (of 5 kids) enjoy your videos very much. Keep them up.
This is what I love about Flite Test. Really awesome, and they encourage all the different types of flying.
Ive had the honor to know the Finns for a few years and they are great people. Josh has been helping me greatly with my own indoor planes over the years and I would not be having the success I have now without him. And Hope is even more awesome. :) They are doing great things for the hobby and have been blessed with a large audience.
And you're a mighty fine model builder/designer/flier yourself!
Thats crazy! I thought you were filming in slow-motion the first time it was flying.
Hundreds upon hundreds of hours of watching all manner of content on TH-cam - I can't think of anything I've seen and heard that pleases me more than this video. What an honour and a treasure.
The best Flite test video i have seen, this guy is a real master and knows things that most rc ''modelers'' ignore.
Wow! Great episode. I'd love to hear more about the ornithopters at 13:50.
meeeee toooooo scale birds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ya that was the coolest thing they showed and they didn't even talk about it.
Joseph Galvan jSJj cmsncanc,,l,
They really should tell more!!!!!
+fatback2 If I get to FliteFest next year I'll talk to them about the possibility of doing more with orni's, but suffice it to say that flapping wings are regarded as something of a dark art, even by those of us who design and fly them. If you want to see a really good orni, look up "Ray Harlan's record ornithopter". I've see it in person and it's really big and really light.
The depth of the nerdom just involved in the rubber for the power band was absolutely astonishing. Wow
that ornithopter is stunning, i would love to see some more of it
The ornithopter is at 13:48.
One of my fave flitetest episodes since it describes something unique, elegant and mature. All attributes flitetest can use more of.
This is actually mind-boggling to me! So much detail and so amazing.
The amount of patience you need is unreal to me^^
He wasnt kidding about not sneezing! Ive built plenty of RC living room flyers, but these things are little works of art.
This has to be my all time favorite episode. This guy is absolutely inspiring. You could spend your entire life and never meet someone who does something this interesting and unique.
We agree! It was by chance that we got to meet him! Crafty Dan is friends with him.....Such a great community filled with talented people doing AMAZING THINGS! 👍😎
Fantastic Episode Guys, my son Thomas has wanted to know about F1D for ages now.
This guy is so deep into rubber bands...
The bands make this type of hobby possible
lmfao I guess that's what happens when you live in south Carolina
Haha, Zing!
I give this full thumbs up. We have a small club that do rubber powered indoor planes in Ayrshire Scotland. The average age of the members in the club must be 80. We need to promote more of this kind of modeling. This is cheep. You learn how to build balance and fly a plane. This kind of modeling is what anyone can do at any age. Love watching all your videos. Keep the hobby going as it's loosing momentum in the uk. All the local models shops are gone.
I'm up nr Oban Gordon, do you have a link for your Ayrshire club?
What I like about this video is the fact that someone made something simple and beautiful... they did it because of a passion of the hobby and the historic aspects. this stuff is cooler to me than any jet engine. I didn't even realize these were a thing! how cool
Daily dos of internet!
Me tooooo!
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My favorite TH-cam channel
this is my 3rd time watching this video, every time I am mesmerized how great they look flying around the room
Great video! it too have always been curious about these little guys but I have never found a nice concise video on the subject. Josh is just such a chill dude and can talk well in front of the camera, loved his details and website recommendations. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you Flight Test for posting this. I have always been fascinated by these aircraft. Im so glad you found someone so passionate about the hobby. Congrats to Joshua and Hope for finding each other, wonderful people
This was one of the most fun YT videos I've ever seen. I've been, mostly as an observer, a model airplane fan for ~6 decades, I've read about these planes, but I've never seen them fly. Truly amazing, delicate little flying machines.
Thank you so much for putting this video online!
Wow these are all so beautiful!
Great episode. These planes are surreal and awe inspiring. So amazingly complex and simple at the same time.
This is mind expanding stuff!! I'm 55... Been in the Hobby since 1984, and the only thing that I've even SEEN before, was the Peanut! And that only on an old AMA video.
Thanks to this wonderful family and you guys at FliteTest, for showing us a whole new World.
Carmine ✈🚂🚙
This has to be one of flite test best videos of all times, airplanes and rockets...I am not the only one that likes both of these AMA/NAR contest events . . .
I've always wanted to know more about these planes. So cool! Thanks for sharing guys!!
Awesome video. Takes me back to the days of the great Cleveland Indoor Model Airplane shows held in the Public Auditorium. I never did microfilm planes .. too twitchy and delicate, but did do condenser paper planes, which are a bit more rugged and still can be flown indoors. Also enjoyed hand launched gliders and have had flight approaching 3 minutes with a hand launched glider. I also flew outdoor rubber powered, my last one going OOS (out of site) on a calm evening at a park. Began flying R/C when I was a youngster, and my 1st single channel R/C transmitter actually had TUBES in it, along with some big batteries. Just started re-learning to fly RC with a small indoor quadcopter (used to fly "Class D" aerobatics back in the day). Maybe you can get some more "old time" modelers sharing what modeling used to be like .. most people today have no clue what early pioneers went through just to get in maybe one RC flight at the field. Cheers
Nice job Flite Test!!! I flew indoor models like these for many years, and have never seen a nicer introduction video. As for having kids around these, my three boys grew up with them since birth. By the time they were three or four, they could not only launch one, but could carefully catch one of these slow flyers in mid air! Being around this type of stuff made them learn how to handle delicate things carefully. We went to the US nationals in 2005 as a family and had great fun competing.
Keep doing this guys, I appreciate and enjoy the educational and informative part of this channel as much as the flying! Cheers Josh, well done!
Definitely one of the best Flite Test videos. More technical details could have been given like how the old film was created on top of a bath of water and how it is placed on the wing frame. Also, in competitions, how the planes are controlled by helium balloons temporarily disturbing the air in front of the them. Read a great article in RCM about a F1D competition in a cavernous salt mine - I think it was in Hungary.
smiles a lot , this guy .love it! thumps up!
Infectious passion. Truly an engineer through and through.
WOW what a change of pace! I have known about these aircraft for a long time but had never had any exposure to them. Thank You Flite Test for this wonderful video.
Andre
I have always had a love of free flight planes, and love this episode. I remember a young astronauts program brought in a man that flew planes similar to these in our Gym. Even had one with a tiny motor that ran on CO2.
Needless to say the demonstration was amazing.
Thank you for the resources.
Single best video I can find. Thanks hero. Keep it up.
It's been a while since I've been around indoor fliers. Thanks for the refresher. Great video.
I gotta say your channel is so positive, so gracious and apparently your viewers are just as well-natured considering the consistently meager dislike to like ratio. Keep it up!
Most inspiring video on youtube for me since months thank youba lot for this video and thanks for the resources! God bless your wonderfull family!
Awesome report on a great aspect of modeling. Everyone should have a simple winder at a minimum.
My favorite FT video!
Thank you for the references and resources for anyone interested.
The polar opposite of my models, yet something I could see loving to master as much.
Thx flite test for making this video. I appreciate this very much and how much precision these take to make. Very impressed. I don't think I've ever seen something fly that slow!
Joshua and Hope need to do a (free fight) build video. What do you think?????
Amazing content guys. This is quite far from R/C, yet so interesting to watch!
This is so beautiful! I really was like "Wow" when I first realized how it flew indoor. Very gentle and gorgeous flight. Thank You for such an awesome videos that made me proud.
Those are just mesmerizing in flight. Great episode. Thanks to all.
This is awesome! Not for me, because I am not good with fragile things. But it is beautiful to see them fly!
Josh 3 is such a nice guy :-)
would like to see a project involving him and Peter.
that guy's a genius, i mean th high amount of planning and thinking that goes into even one of those planes is so amazing. what a work of art!
I'm a static scale modeller that was pointed towards F1D just for interest's sake. I really enjoyed this video - very interesting and educational. Well done!
I do t k ow what to say or where to begin on the fact that THIS IS AWESOME! I've realised that rubber band powered aircraft is just fine for me! This will be my next project after I complete a Cessna 150 (maybe a 170 I'm not sure). I never knew that this stuff actually existed. I never even thought of it!
Loved this!
Josh has such unprecedented and unique talent! I am amazed!!
one of the coolest flite test episodes I've seen.
Holy crap ! Got me thinking about my old delta dart !
The fact that this is being controlled by poking it with a stick is surreal. The planes look like a human attempt at making a dragonfly.
this is so outside the box of standard aviation.. well done! amazing aircraft and a great hobby! thank you for sharing it.
This man is an absolut artist! I have never seen anything like that, this is so poetic! Look at the child´s smile of Josh! I had the same during this video!
Great work in showing this part of the hobby FT! Compliments :) Very nice to broaden people's view as a whole And entertaining to watch! :D
Cheers :)
interessant Eric Laermans ?? :)
thanks to this video i built my first ezb and I'm loving it.
+joshuawfinn I love how nicely the ezb flies and I've had it for some time now so im thinking of building an f1d or a f1l soon. But before I do build one of them i want to perfect the variable pitch propeller system I made for the ezb and try to make it even lighter. also I like the fully elliptical wing on your newest f1d, is it designed to reduce drag?
oh and congrats on making the 2016 US team
+Sierra_bravo yes the elliptical wings are for drag reduction. seems to work well, too. they are really challenging to build, but they sure do look cool, and really rigid too.
+joshuawfinn do you make the wing tips just by bending the balsa or do is there some special process to soften the material and then shaping it, like putting it in some very hot water. Also I like your low ceiling f1d design since most of the time im flying in a room with a 10' ceiling. That would probably be the first f1d model I build.
To bad my local hobby store is closed today or I would of bought some more 1/32" balsa and started building the plane.
Take a trip over to nffsblog.wordpress.com and look up the tutorial by Joe Kerr on wet forming. I personally just wet the wood and start bending. It's worth noting that if you pull the wood around the form, it's much more likely to kink than if you push it around it.
Where are you located? I might be able to connect you with some indoor fliers in your area. It's way more fun to fly in higher sites, and it's also more fun to fly with other folks.
I should add that Nick Ray and I have agreed that F1R is the optimum small site model once you get past the fiddliness of them. They are easy to transport and they fly even longer than F1D's.
+joshuawfinn thanks for the link and the tip, i'll have to to some reading/research on F1R. I personally enjoy flying in my living room, the challenge of adjusting the incidence and angles of the surfaces on the plane to make it fly at a certain altitude in a certain pattern is what I love about indoor ff. It would be nice to not have to worry about crashing into the ceiling though. Also im located in NC around the Charlotte area. Im not really looking to make indoor free flight my main hobby since im fully invested in radio controlled model aircraft. I specifically am really into f3a or pattern and do go to some pattern competitions, but i do really like the idea free flight.
I used to build these way back in the 50's and went on to glow plug and then RC. What fun it was learning how to build a flying model and to fly and sometimes crash. Great video.
Probably your best video. What an amazing and inspiring family!
Great episode! Just like eric I had always seen the pics in magazines but never in person. This guy is a wealth of knowledge and it was great to hear the history of these. Now, what will peter come up with after seeing these? :^)
Let us know if you like this...
It's got over 840 000 views, yes I think we like this!
Amazing episode! really incredible. Thanks Flitetest
Amazing very light models. So far, this was my favorite video
Fantastic video here. I live in England and have recently been researching my family tree. I found out that one of my 3x Great Grandad's was a half-brother to Stanley Spooner (1856-1940). Stanley created founded, and edited the world's first magazine devoted solely towards aviation. It was called: "Flight". It went on sale in January 1909. This encouraged me to look back through back issues of that magazine on the internet. The rubber band gliders in this video are reminiscent (in shape at least) to early outdoor rubber band powered gliders, that were homemade, and used by some modellers in the early years of aviation:www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1913/1913%20-%200288.html?search=ModelsOne of these models during those years actually achieved a distance of 260 yards.
wow, i work with rubber bands all day and didnt know there was so much thought that went into them
Now that’s real skill and dedication .... and most of all a scene of beauty.
Whole family of model airplane pilots and builders and every generation specialized in different types of model aviation so cool and diverse
Anyone coming from Dailydose 🤔🤔
Na but that’s cool to hear that more multi-million sub TH-camrs are talking about this hobby
Very cool. Nice job FliteTest. Can we get a build video for one of these planes?
Here is a link to a 87 min long build video. Lots of techniques to learn.
vimeo.com/68616979
I watch Josh and Eric's expressions as they look at these planes.... They are astounded to say the least. Hey Josh you need to have Eric on more videos. Eric shows a lot of great representation of flite test. You guys did a awesome job on getting these penny planes on your shows. Thanks for sharing. Very interesting topic for sure.
Excellent show. Teaching the theory and history of any facet model aircraft is always a great idea. Would love to hear more about propellers and their pitch specs. Throwing together some parts and putting things in the air is great to watch, but learning the why and wherefores helps understand why things go wrong and how to make them better. Keep mixing up the fun flys and the lessons!
4:55 when you realize that this is not slowmo
i am an ultimate piece of rubber born may 1999
Sounds like you beat the rubber in may of 99
Very cool show! I’m putzing around with ornithopters and ready enjoyed what you guys presented. Thank you!
I've been eagerly awaiting this episode when it was announced a little while back.Such a fascinating segment of model aviation still practiced today no less! Please keep up this kind of variety of videos, guys.Perhaps a episode on control line flight or lighter than air modeling,as a suggestion.
Try making a rubber band powered quadcopter!!
@saladnuts Not for a rubber powered free flight one. Kids were flying tricopters in Science Olympiad last year. Very stable.
@@joshuawfinn yes also for a rubber band one lol.
@@peterzingler6221 then how did students get them to fly without a stabilizer?
@@joshuawfinn simple. Pendulum
Awesome! I was captivated by F1D since I first saw it! But also like Eric, I have found finding these aircraft in person elusive. It's so great to see that there is a real interest in this side of the hobby. I've been looking forward to a documentary that is a long time in the making called "Float." You can find updates about the project here, I'm sure it's going to be great!!
www.kickstarter.com/projects/bensaks/float-documentary/posts
You can find more indoor flying opportunities at freeflight.org--look for the contest calendar.
these are one of my favourite type of model aeroplanes :) so glad to see you guys did a video on this!
A heartwarming video of human ingenuity. Sweet couple - thanks for this nice video!
Holy Jesus my brain hurts.
only a small pain, then ??
Flite Test - Ultra light weight r/c build using these build methods?
its amazing that something as simple as a rubber band can be so well tuned as this hobby uses
That is some fine tuned specialized flying stuff there. Who ever heard of 10+ minute flights from a rubber band? I learned about a dozen new things from this one video alone. Excellent stuff guys!
I wonder if he could build a helicopter the same way?
Actually, I've done just that. They look pretty cool in flight. My best flight so far is just shy of 8 minutes, flown at the Minidome in Johnson City, TN, at the 2012 nationals.
That's awesome. Do you have any videos?
Zach Mikko
- go to his channel and search for helicopter.
goddam everyone is named Josh
hi Josh. I'm Josh
That was awesome to watch and learn about. Thanks for sharing with the group.
Amazing !!!! This is where the future of of human flight is created. Andrés from Santiago, Chile.
One plane comes to mind here. Gossamer Condor.
MacCready actually based his Condor design on the indoor models he had flown in the past, so the connection you made there is very real.
Yeah. The large wing without many ribs, clear covering, and large slow prop helped.
Sam Dubois You can see the full documentary about the Gossamer Condor on TH-cam here th-cam.com/video/l4wlC1Qex8A/w-d-xo.html
sciencetoymaker I have seen it more than once. Very good film. I'm constructing an hpa myself.
Sam Dubois Wow! Have you seen the NOVA episode where the team from MIT recreates the mythical flight of Daedalus using an HPA of modern materials? Part 1 is here th-cam.com/video/cZjHcjyLprw/w-d-xo.html
BTW, are you familiar with walkalong gliders?
Ugh... at 15:23 Eric, a professional videographer, taking a vertical video? What????
Or photo
ha! I'm not sure I would have caught that if you hadn't said anything...
Slug Life
There would be no difference in detail between portrait or landscape mode because there is no change in resolution or magnification. Only aspect changes. Horizontal is better and easier on the eyes because that's how the world is layed out. Even your eyes are horizontal. Portrait mode is only good for.... portraits.
Haha.....I think I was taking square framed pics actually. (Now you got me paranoid) I went back through all the vids on my phone from that day and none are portrait. All my vids are landscape. I will say I went most of that trip without a lot of sleep so who knows. LOL! 😜
fasfan if you want to take a background for your phone however portrait is the way to go xP
Great interview, Josh! Nice to see you on here, and I hope it helps get people interested in the hobby!
This was very cool. Did not even know this kind of thing existed. Very refreshing video to watch! Thanks to Josh for that.