💯 they want to defund them they don’t want to stand up with the police black lives. Matters hates the police politicians, hate the police judges let the people out after the police do all the work to get them into the gels. It’s beyond bullsh!t
You forgot the role media played in all of this. People are quick to believe false statistics and misleading narratives. The media creates the narrative for ratings or otherwise, politicians capitalize on it and some of the people follow
It's actually getting harder to get into medical school. The mean MCAT score has been increasing by a few points each year. But in a lot of other places standards are being lowered. I know from my personal experience and current doctors that I've consulted with that had to do way less than current applicants to medical school.
yeah its part of the defund the police scam. democrats make police worse then they can blame them for the problems DEMOCRATS cause. super good system to get re elected
It’s the Globalist agenda. People need to wake up. God will allow for this to happens, we must pay for what’s been done to God’s animals at animal farms globally. Just as they have been enslaved, humanity will be enslaved. God is just.
@@NAT-turners-Revenge Maybe if a certain demographic wasn't incarcerated at high rates, despite being only 13% of the population, they would have more representation in the force...
Honestly, EVERY department in the United States is lowering their standards for police officers. When I was hired in 1995 at Fort Worth Police Department, NO ONE who had ever smoked marijuana was hired. NO ONE, no matter how long ago they had smoked marijuana. Every cadet was held to the highest standard. That’s no longer the case, any where.
Those guys need to smoke a blunt and relax. Too many Nazi like biases persist. They are hungry to get recognition and deglect even the basic of human etiquette and understanding. They should be called peace officers and should be giving out warnings rather than robbing people, creating a community of poor leadership.
My friend's a teacher. He said he had to pass so many exams to get a teaching credential. Now he says they are lowering the standards simply because of teacher shortage.
Shortage cause the pay sucks. Almost all teachers have to use their own salary to purchase materials for their class. Many of my friends have setup go fundme. It’s sad
There's no shortage. There was just a crack down on teacher child "relationships" and increase in OF accounts. It's more lucrative to be on OF than to teach.
I applied for the LAPD about 9 years ago and I got disqualified for having no credit now some random dude with bad credit can get hired, this is a load of bs 😡
It's because now, all the police officers have body cameras. They can not do anything illegal anymore because the officers who sign out for their shift, and the body cameras footages will be examined and evaluated by their supervisors for any misconduct! Technology changed the way people work now.
When the quality of Americans goes down, so do the standards of the country. America is the laughing stock of the world. There's no surprise the standards are dirt low.
I'm an instructor in the police Academy and the quality of cadets these days is not the same. Easily offended by telling them reality-based stories. They went to the administration to cry over the smallest things. .. and I know the military is going that route too.
I have a friend at the gym who’s worked for a PD for years. I told her I was thinking about becoming a police officer and she said “No, never! You’re too smart!”
Police seem to be independently operated and controlled by whims and opinions of themselves, supervisors, judges, townships, cities, counties, and states! (Police are not educated lawyers and many of them are without high school diplomas!). The job of a deputy or policeman attracts abusive sociopaths, psychopaths, perverts, and narcissists like drugs are to an addict more than any legal profession! Police must pay financial damage from their own pockets for unlawful acts against innocent taxpayers or the policing problem can only exacerbate further hate and demise! QUALIFIED IMMUNITY: "Must be ABOLISHED " ...!
@@turtletruthactually there are more cops with degrees than ever. Definitely with the free tuition paid by the agency and incentives for having a degree.
@@rodhtown LAPD, Detroit and Boston police applicants are no longer required to have high school diploma's! Applicants must still pass the oral, written, and agility tests along with 6-months of training and one year of supervised education! QUALIFIED IMMUNITY: "MUST be ABOLISHED" ...!
That is awesome. You have the mindset, discipline, determination, dedication to do whatever it takes to be a police officer. Good luck to you. I am in the same boat though I need to lose 80lbs and waiting for a BK to fall off my credit report. I hope you’re going to be that police officer one day.
At 34 years old, I applied for LAPD. I finished all of the testing with a 98% overall testing score. A form letter advised me that the city hired based on federal mandates and I would be notified... I called the background investigations office and was advised, off the record that they were going to hire women and minorities long before they would hire a 34 year old white male.
Back in 2011 I applied to the lapd. I was going through the beginning stages of the process and when it came time for the background test they said go ahead and write down any crime or drug you’ve done no matter how long ago just confess to it on paper and it will speed up the polygraph test and make it easier. If you don’t the polygraph machine will pick it up so you might as well write it down. Like an idiot who didn’t know any better I wrote down the three drugs I had tried back in high school which were weed, cocaine, and shrooms with dates . I turned it in and that same day an official took me outside and notified me that I was automatically disqualified for the cocaine even though that was 4 years ago they had a strict policy on cocaine. My heart dropped. They had hired wife beaters, racists, criminals, and murderers but refused to hire me? A kid with a clean record, good credit, drug free and able bodied candidate. I then tried with the sheriffs dept and it was the same crap, same reason. That’s when my dream of becoming a cop working for the narcotics division came to an end. Now look at them, now they’ll hire anybody. Fuck em.
Lol don't believe you at all. The vast majority of LAPD are whyte males. Then Hispanic males 2nd. Then BLK and then AZN. Basically it follows the natural demographics of LA itself.
Actually you can when no one wants to join the police. You kinda have no choice. Try running a city with little to no cops. Especially when the community hates police to begin with.
It depends what those "standards" are. Many of these standards are arbitrary. Like the chief said the chances of you running a mile as an officer in the LAPD are zero. They don't want cops to run anyway - they want them figuring out ways to catch someone peacefully and efficiently. They've recognized that cops running to apprehend a criminal makes them more likely to sustain serious bodily injury. Cops should be encircling and cornering dangerous criminals methodically - utilizing the full suite of tools and technology available to them - not chasing them down alleyways. Would you rather have a candidate that is physically fit or smart enough to avoid having to run? They have radios, helicopters, high speed police vehicles, guns, stun guns, etc that removes the need to be a cross country athlete. That doesn't mean physical assessments should be completely taken out - it just means they need to be tweaked and altered to fit the department's evolving methods. Having bad credit before you enter the police force has not shown conclusively that you are more likely to accept bribes. Many people with acceptable credit scores before they became officers accepted bribes. You could make an argument that poor people would not want to risk the only form of financial security they have for a pay out. What is an important factor in determining someone's trustworthiness are in depth psychological evaluations, background checks, and references from unbiased sources. Police departments have been shown to be discriminatory on subjective tests. Written tests are subjective. Multiple choice questions makes it impossible for police departments to be discriminatory because there is only one right answer on multiple choice tests.
@@ent1311 actually no lmao what city are you talking about Chicago Baltimore and Detroit need physically trained cops all that fat shit isn’t it dude and degrees need to be taken out ppl with degrees tend to be fucking retarded in reality
In 2004, I have been disqualified for admitting to stealing candies when I was 14. Never been in trouble. Obtained a 100% on interview and passed all their exams.
7-8 years ago I applied to a few departments in California, and was denied by all. That was a different time though, when many wanted to be officers. Nowadays it’s the opposite… many people don’t even consider law enforcement as a career. Why would they? It’s a crap show. From what I’ve been hearing many departments are struggling to find anyone.
Yeah people on the right dont want to join the military or law enforcement because of all the culture Marxism going on, so it’s gonna get worse when people are done engaging in the system
Standards are loosening because it's too difficult to be anything these days...you get reprimanded for the slightest infraction, this is across the board.
if you want higher quality people interested in being police officers maybe they should be allowed to do the job of taking bad guys off the streets instead of prosecuting them every time they do and letting violent career criminals back on the streets over and over again. nobody wants their hard work to be for nothing.
yeah its part of the defund the police scam. democrats make police worse then they can blame them for the problems DEMOCRATS cause. super good system to get re elected
The higher qualified people are going for careers like the FBI, ICE, or homeland security. All of the high school graduates are becoming patrol cops. LOL.
I don't agree with the financial part. Every person is different you cannot be good with money but have more integrity than someone with an 850-credit score.
LAPD has been doing this for years. A former neighbor of mine was an LAPD patrol officer in both Hollywood and Van Nuys Divisions. After he resigned, he still had some friendships with some of his former LAPD coworkers and an LA County Sheriff Deputy he also knew. Throughout the 80's, 90's, and 2000's he told me that his friends said over and over again the Affirmative Action thing became worse by the minute and for years.... AND all the while city and county leaders continually created incremental ways to restrict officers in doing their job... AND all of this while the general public becomes more and more woke... AND hating the police right out of the gate. They are hiring people just to show *"WE ARE DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE."* The vast majority of male officers find every way possible to stay away from feemail officers and civilian staff because even the slightest of incorrect language and or behavior can result in an HR case, lawsuit, and or termination of job regardless of the situation as long as the whamen comes out the victor. They are hiring whamen who are being given multiple chances to pass physical and academic tests only to continue failing over and over again. So they lower the standards. Society is crumbling because we continue to go in directions of no return. For example on our MTA Los Angeles bus and especially subway and light rail lines... The rumor has gone around for years that officers need to make every possible effort to let certain suspects of a specific racial background... we can't say who because that would be "racial profiling," either go with a warning or to ignore all together out of fear of the situation escalating into a lawsuit, riot, or death. Absolutely nobody is allowed to say or do anything because our city, county, and state leaders continue to push whoake agendas that boggle the mind.
You are an ass clown. Do your homework on Affirmative Action and who it benefits the most before you make a misguided, ignorant statement. You need a History lesson.
That sounds so good!! but think about it for a second. What if the criminal is your family, you'd let them go. and if someone else "dealt with" your family member or friend you'd go to war with them. Then all of you would have to face justice. Who administers that? That's what used to happen in the "Wild Wild West".
@@arizonaranger527 you didn't think it through that far did you? You said something you thought sounded "Gangsta" You'll be the first to die in the wild Wild West .
This "Police Chief" is a joke! "When was the last time an Officer had to run a mile and a half?" Probably not very often BUT when is the last time an Officer had to run after a suspect at full sprint and then end up in a physical altercation to take the suspect into custody? Do you think and Officer who can't run a mile and a half in 12 minutes can accomplish that? Ny guess, having had to do it myself, is NO! Of course, the "Chief" can remedy that by forbidding foot pursuits. What a joke!
It's not about running 1.5 miles. It's about being able to run whatever distance you have to and be able to fight once you get there. You're right about the Chief. More like "Chef" of police.
Police used to be out heros, media portraying them as criminals will never help the society. One bad person does not make the entire world hell, the duty of police is to protect, that is a huge weight on anyone’s shoulder. I’m glad I live in a town where we respect police and hold criminals responsible.
Before I was hired by Glendale PD in 1990, I applied at LAPD and their recruiters put the following list on a white board showing what each gender and race needed to score on oral interview: White male: 95%, Hispanic male: 85%, Black male: 75%, Any female: 70% This was 33 years ago, so it usually gets worse.
@kylewilliams2510 yes it did and still does example Rafael Perez and David mack from the rampart scandal background tried several times to tell leadership they were bad news but were told to shut up because it was right after Rodney king and they needed blacks
Cheif Moore used bad logic. "Because the prior standards weren't perfect and there were still some bad cops, lowering the standards wont make a difference."
I think your logic is flawed. The logic is "regardless of diversity hiring requirements, the volume of violent crime justifies the demand for more officers,therefore requiring lower requirements in physical fitness." Not...whatever you said.
@@LouDog39 I don't have his exact language down as I didn't want to rewind, I should have put it in "[ ] "instead. I was referring to another part in the video where he said bad apples got through with our past criteria, so lowering them will make little difference. I give no opinion on lowering "standards," I just wanted to comment that he wasn't using good reasoning at that moment.
They need to talk next about on why the city lower their standards on having Gascon as the DA of LA. And why do criminals have more rights than law-abiding citizens.
I tried applying one time and I told them the truth about weed smoking and they didn’t want me anymore. Their physical training was so easy it was pathetic. They ended up hiring a guy that eventually got caught smuggling drugs into the jail. That’s what they wanted instead of me who was honest it’s them. That’s what they deserve.
Same here. I said I smoked once in HS… black balled for life. At the time I was training with one of their top guys in the department and he told me I should have lied about everything to get in. He said I thought I knew that.
@@twan5201986no way. I’m sorry that happened. I guess lying to get in , knowing your a righteous person might by the best bet to get in. And the guy said to lie to. Have you tried again?
Long story but absolutely true. This problem began decades ago and has spread like a cancer. In the early 70's I worked for a medium sized agency and decided to apply to the largest department in north - central Texas. I won't name it, but you can figure it out. I had two years experience and some college. This was well above average for an applicant at that time. I passed all the entrance requirements but was turned down. Several days later I received a call at home from a high ranking officer who worked in personnel. He told me confidentially that the reason I was not hired was because the department had accepted Federal money and they were obligated under Federal mandate to hire minorities. In the following 5 years I kept tabs on the hiring process out of curiosity. The department began sending patrol cars to a minorities' house to bring them to personnel if they needed a ride. Next they lowered the requirements concerning past lifestyle history, next they allowed minorities to be hired and trained for six months and only then were they given the entrance exam. If you want to know what's wrong with today's police agencies, this is where it began. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with disparaging a minority applicant, but has everything to do with the level of competence of recruits.
What a slap in the face to the senior officers by the chief at the end there. What he means is the new hires are easily manipulated and controlled because they don’t think for themselves and see the corruption at the top. They now believe it’s those “old school dinosaurs” that shouldn’t be on the job anymore that are the problem.
Been that way with the LAPD for years. Officers hired before 1980 were considered "true" police, and those hired after 1980 were the beginnings of the lowered standards.
My dad was hired in 1969 and I was hired in 1988 and we were both good LAPD cops. I moved and hired on in the PNW and my dad retired after 25 years. I did 32 years total and retired now. Would hate to start now in this woke day and age.
yeah its part of the defund the police scam. democrats make police worse then they can blame them for the problems DEMOCRATS cause. super good system to get re elected
Well considering that cops are being abused and provoked for a nice settlement check, they have to find a new class of people willing to tolerate that for $48K a year.
Their standards are getting worse because the profession stopped caring about the community. It's hard to get people when they are seeing and understanding what actual policing is.
So you want to keep it white! This has nothing to do with standards. If it did they’d include police corruption within its ranks. They’d include police brutality as well. Nope they want to keep things lilly white.
For anyone that doesn't believe the LAPD has lowered the hiring standards. Current LAPD sworn staff levels are at 9056 officers down from almost 10,000. This last academy class graduated a total of 44 recruits, many of which will not, or should not, pass field training. Next February, approximately 1400 senior officers and supervisors will leave the department due to forced retirements...Do you see a massive problem on the horizon?
It’s not just the police department. A bunch of government jobs are doing the same. There was a time once when you tried your hardest to pass the tests. Now, even if you don’t pass they’ll grab your hand and walk you through and allow you to work without benefits until you do pass. All this just to fill the positions. Many of the new people don’t qualify but become qualified.
Then again y'all.... I was Disqualified from PD for using Marijuana as a juvinile, Profiting from Sale of narcotics (Friend sold $10 with of weed and gave me $5) as a juvenile, and setting a napkin on fire in the school bathroom as a juvenile. Key word here, as a JUVENILE! All under 15 years of age, do you think I having served in the United States Army and wanting to dedicate my life to Law Enforcement should be shut down because of mistakes I made as a child? The LAPD here is clearly giving people like me the opportunity to be better, to right our childhood wrongs, to be lawmen. If you are a law enforcement officer now in a strict law enforcement agency, you are either a saint or a liar because we all know that you didn't make it being honest on that background.
There's reasons standards get lowered. A lot of people don't realize how difficult the process is to become a police officer. Factor in you have very few people who want to become police in this day and age. If you have 100 people who want to join an academy and only 50 spots available, you don't have much to choose from. If you have 1000 people trying to join their are better options to choose from. It's become a take what you can get and hope they work out. BE SAFE!
@grantechsweng5268 That's wild! The police department in Oakland, CA, is a little over 700 officers. Oakland has over 430,000 people. The police department should be staffed at over 1400. BE SAFE!
They lowered the standards for women and minorities. All first responder jobs have done that for years. A less qualified female or minority will be hired before other more qualified candidates.
1) I still think being able to run a 1.5 miles in 12 minutes is relevant. I think in general police should be able to match a firefighter’s physical fitness requirements and maintain a certain level of physical fitness. 2) Bad credit shouldn’t keep you from getting a job. I agree with the chief on this one. They had these requirements before and cops were and still are stealing left and right. 3) Written exams I think are important. As a civil servant you need to be able to properly communicate to the public. Writing is a good indictator of that.
1.5 miles in 12 mins is very tough. Not every fit person is built like a soccer player. I consider myself to be fit, but I’ve primarily lifted weights my entire life so I’m a “big” 225 pound dude. No way I’m running more than half a mile without getting winded. So technically I wouldn’t “qualify” yet I have a better/stronger physique than the average applicant. humble Brag.
@@briantbmoth6472 I see you have never bought a home, paid for college on your own and or help your wife and kids with their education. And if you don't have any of that, that's one thing. But if you do, well you know why people have bad credit.
In the 90's, I went through the process with several agencies, two of them flat-out told me my packet was signed and ready to go, but because I was white, I was denied (affirmative action). Now, nearing retirement with an outstanding agency that I am blessed to have worked for, I look back and think how unfair it was to be declined because I was white.
Hrmmm.... Imagine living through.. the founding of the country all the way to about 1980 where being not white made u lose job opportunities. Cry me a river. At least now days a black man and a white man have a decent chance of being turned down because of their skin color. I call that fair Welcome to my world being a nonwhite mix race with a foreign ass name.
L.A.P.D. changed n lowered standards around the early to mid 90's...A 30 year vet I knew said " Young Officers giving there hood gang signs back to gang members" so from then on.....
@@BPD1586 Well it did, Garden Grove PD and Baldwin Park both told me the same thing. I am happy and blessed to be where I ended up it's on you for not believing it. Affirmative action was real and wrong!!
Ah... Sounds like Detroit Police Department as well. The problem is that no one wants to be a cop anymore that these departments will take anyone that applies with a pulse.
This is nothing new! I was LAPD in the 90’s and I heard that back in the 80’s the dept hired clean gang members which meant people were know gang members but did not have criminal records. They would go into the military and then go into LAPD. Once hired by the dept they would relay information on drug busts, LAPD tactical plans, deployment plans etc. none of this surprises me at all. I’m so glad I left policing 20 years ago. It’s been ruined by so many things and it just gets worse. No wonder why there is such a huge disconnect from the police and the community. They create it and then the politics involved too have destroyed policing as well. Glad I left CA too!
Back in the early 90's when I was studying criminal law, the professor (retired police chief) asked for a show of hands as to who wanted to use their degree for law enforcement. He pointed to the minority students (black, brown, latino, women) and said you'll be fine and you'll get hired for sure. The rest of us were told it wouldn't matter how good you were, they will always get hired before you. Thank God for the "equality" of affirmative action.
If racists in positions of power didn't discriminate people based on race to begin with affirmative action wouldn't have been necessary. Sucks doesn't it. Somehow though if you are qualified and great at your job people will always assume you only got hired because you were black. But when we are kept out because of our race we are told we must not be qualified. Can't win with racism.
Funny I’m a Veteran and I applied for LAPD getting to the literally towards the last step in October of 2022 of the stupid process which was a psychological interview and I didn’t make it. Honestly I think it’s the opposite and that they are not hiring for for shit. Cause if what this video says is the case then I should’ve been hired right?
I too got all the way to the end but failed the psych interview. Their psych is fucking Joke and that’s a huge reason why they are always so short staffed. They loose so many good candidates that way.
@@rjchard2877 lots of weird shit. First you fill out a written psych test that consists of about 1,200 questions. You then have a an interview right after background investigation is finished and they ask follow up questions and will also come up with questions of their own to ask.
I don’t think they need “high standards” Is not like they’re going to arrest a nice person with common sense 😂 those criminals don’t need the best treatment like it was customer service
Cities in the north did the same thing with firefighters. They lowered testing requirements so that blacks could "compete" for jobs and promotions. Public schools and colleges do it, too.
It's definitely unfair to say that you can't trust somebody who has money problems especially someone who's trying to work for a law enforcement that already shows a form of integrity that individual is not going out into the streets to rob people to make ends meet joining the police force shows integrity
The dumbest people I ever worked for had a college degree. No common sense, minds made up before listening to another view. Cost the company so much money on useless projects, the company went out of business.
Personally I think the opposite. I cant think of any reason why a college degree should be required. That goes for most jobs in general, there are plenty of jobs out there that only require a degree because recruiters are too lazy to sort through applications and use degrees to artificially lower the hiring pool.
I knew this guy who applied to several different law enforcement agencies in LA County and would never get selected. After the summer riots during the pandemic he got a call from the LAPD and was basically handed the job.
I read into this over 35 years ago. Earned an associates in CJ, elite level athlete, 3.5 GPA, but upon my job searches, I could no longer ignore the big white elephant in the room: a dislike of my skin color. Spending half a decade while working full time with a family to support was such a travesty to myself. I’ll never let that one go, and it forges my outlook today.
Rofl if you weren't getting hired 35 years ago it wasn't because you were white. It's because there are huge red flags you aren't sharing with us. Also even today in 85% of the country there is absolutely no question that white people have an ADVANTAGE in the hiring process. Try getting a police job in many small Midwestern or southern police departments as a minority - it's not possible. In medium sized police departments in the south and midwest you aren't getting hired unless you can prove to them first that you are willing to be an uncle ruckus.
Same thing here, they skipped me and hired affirmative action candidates. Over time, just like Rafael Perez, this policy will return to bite them in the ass; once they lower those standards like they have being "woke" these candidates will just bring mayhem and chaos with them into the police force and discredit themselves and the idiots who hired them; serves them right! You actually did better for yourself by skipping police work altogether when reverse discrimination is this prevalent! Me thinks just watch the city destabilize itself like San Francisco did when our governor was there trying out his libtard policies. I hope you found better employment after all!
Chief Michael Moore was abducted when changes happened. I was deployed. Notice no one cuts corners of professional conduct to grand servrice to public when i suit up. In or out of uniform I the female will correct you. I passed 2020 highest score and lowest time. I move when i move
@eldebtor6973 Colleges, medical schools, honors classes, governments, they all accept students and workers according to race and not competency. Some competency is part of the decision. Both parties support the practice, as Whites benefit greatly, taking opportunities from Asians.
I hate to tell you this, but they have been doing this for years. I was hired in 1990. The standards are much different now. Take it for what it’s worth.
Every police department needs to look onto there hiring process and training. Way too many cops out there violating peoples rights and cops act like they have never heard of the Constitution
@FierceZs1 honestly, for me is one too many. But with people recording everywhere, it's showing all of us that cops don't know or don't care about the Constitution. And yes, I do believe there are a number of good cops. I have great respect for them. It sure looks to me the good ones are outnumbered by the bad one. Go after the bad ones and protect the good ones
@@jerryd1109 We had 60 million police interactions last year alone, if the bad outnumbers the good then by defintion there was over 30 million bad police interactions, yes?
Lol this is not even true. I have a clean very clean background including my credit and I passed all phases to get in LAPD and they STILL disqualified me at the very very end which makes me question of what it can mean
Same thing here, they skipped me and hired affirmative action candidates. Over time, just like Rafael Perez, this policy will return to bite them in the ass; once they lower those standards like they have being "woke" these candidates will just bring mayhem and chaos with them into the police force and discredit themselves and the idiots who hired them; serves them right! You actually did better for yourself by skipping police work altogether when reverse discrimination is this prevalent! Me thinks just watch the city destabilize itself like San Francisco did when our governor was there trying out his libtard policies. I hope you found better employment after all!
Many years ago, before I was born, Joe Explained very clearly why the department had very stringent physical and mental standards. This episode stuck with me for many years. He was explaining it to a potential Latino applicant who came in under the height and weigh limits. The applicant stated that it would be no problem because he knew some kind of martial arts. Joe told him there in lies the problem. Your physical presence has to be has to be such that it is intimidating to a suspect but reassuring to a victim.
You know what is more reassuring then any giant person? A gun. Also a police helicopter overhead, two cops, a person who speaks intelligently, and any number of things. Silly arbitrary rules need to be discarded.
5:04 it’s f disgusting how they’re so worried about diversity and stead of keep the city clean and having the right police officers on the street I truly would not want a trans person to come and save me. I’m sorry.
I used to live in LA for years before I retired and left California for good. My son was well on his way to being hired by LAPD in 2008 until he went to take the lie detector test and literally from the point that he was hooked up to the polygraph the test administrator started giving him crap and accusing him of cheating and finally told him he was done and that he had to sign a paper saying he’d been cheating before he would let him leave. I have since talked to other people about my son’s experience and they also mentioned that they had experienced the same thing when they’d applied for the department or had a friend or relative who,had experienced this kind of harassment. The reason he wasn’t hired was because he is white and they wanted to hire women and minorities to keep their social justice advocates happy. Fortunately he was hired shortly after that by a much larger agency.
Interesting. After things didn't pan out with LAPD, I attempted LASD a couple years later (late 90's after their hiring freeze was over), and failed the polygraph. The administrator of the test was a jerk with me, and yet I was still called in to meet with my background investigator who became belligerent with me regarding my polygraph results. It was bizarre! I now know that polygraphs are garbage. I honestly wonder if my "calibration" question is what caused all the problems. The guy had me "lie" about my age. I happened to take the test just after my birthday, and it takes me a little bit of time to get used to not being the previous age anymore. I thought it was a terrible "lie" to use as a basis for a polygraph. Regardless of whether I resonated with my change in age, I think asking me to lie about something I know isn't a lie isn't really a lie, if that makes sense. He could have had me answer "yes" to, "did you kill Abraham Lincoln," and I bet it would have had a similar result. Anyway, your comment has me wondering if there was something else going on. I applied with a few other guys who happened to be white and none of us got very far. Who knows.
Same thing here, they skipped me and hired affirmative action candidates. Over time, just like Rafael Perez, this policy will return to bite them in the ass; once they lower those standards like they have being "woke" these candidates will just bring mayhem and chaos with them into the police force and discredit themselves and the idiots who hired them; serves them right! You actually did better for yourself by skipping police work altogether when reverse discrimination is this prevalent! Me thinks just watch the city destabilize itself like San Francisco did when our governor was there trying out his libtard policies. I hope you found better employment after all!
If they cannot get an adequate number of candidates that they want, they will absolutely "adjust" the standards for hiring, Academy and firing. It's just inevitable. This will absolutely result in Officers of lower quality overall.
5:27 the chief needs to be fired. He’s more worried about diversity and having all the wrong people and letting unqualified people get hired. No it’s not OK.
When the police lose the support of the politicians and half of the citizenry, this is the way it goes.
💯 they want to defund them they don’t want to stand up with the police black lives. Matters hates the police politicians, hate the police judges let the people out after the police do all the work to get them into the gels. It’s beyond bullsh!t
The politicians are the problem. They're worthless idiots.
You forgot the role media played in all of this. People are quick to believe false statistics and misleading narratives. The media creates the narrative for ratings or otherwise, politicians capitalize on it and some of the people follow
But people wount vote Democrats out even know alots going on in ny
Burn
Loot
Murda
Defund the police.
Keep it up democrats
It's happening in every field nationwide: teachers, cops, doctors, nurses, pilots, etc😳
I should be a doctor now
Exactly. It is happening every where, not just the police academies
It's actually getting harder to get into medical school. The mean MCAT score has been increasing by a few points each year. But in a lot of other places standards are being lowered. I know from my personal experience and current doctors that I've consulted with that had to do way less than current applicants to medical school.
yeah its part of the defund the police scam. democrats make police worse then they can blame them for the problems DEMOCRATS cause. super good system to get re elected
It’s the Globalist agenda. People need to wake up. God will allow for this to happens, we must pay for what’s been done to God’s animals at animal farms globally. Just as they have been enslaved, humanity will be enslaved. God is just.
Its not a excuse but I can see why there is lowing of standards. No one wants to be a Cop anymore and I don't blame them.
Why would anyone CHOOSE to be a pig??? 😝😝
80% of em are of "south of the border" heritage
They're not even allowed to do the job. Too much BS and PCrules.
@@NAT-turners-Revenge
Maybe if a certain demographic wasn't incarcerated at high rates, despite being only 13% of the population, they would have more representation in the force...
@@alf4fo sneak diss? It's right there before your eyes genius 😂
The most surprising thing about this to me is finding out LAPD had standards
Honestly, EVERY department in the United States is lowering their standards for police officers. When I was hired in 1995 at Fort Worth Police Department, NO ONE who had ever smoked marijuana was hired. NO ONE, no matter how long ago they had smoked marijuana. Every cadet was held to the highest standard. That’s no longer the case, any where.
Marijuana. Ooo noo not that devils lettuce 🤡
Correct. Some departments allow a misdemeanor conviction now...
Those guys need to smoke a blunt and relax. Too many Nazi like biases persist. They are hungry to get recognition and deglect even the basic of human etiquette and understanding. They should be called peace officers and should be giving out warnings rather than robbing people, creating a community of poor leadership.
@@6time686 which is fine if it was minor and a long time ago
stfu half these officers get drunk and violent.
My friend's a teacher. He said he had to pass so many exams to get a teaching credential. Now he says they are lowering the standards simply because of teacher shortage.
Good to know cause im looking for a job I don't wanna go to college but I'm still looking for work
What state or city is this in?
@@onesoloving1 Who are you speaking to? Me? I ask because it is typim
Shortage cause the pay sucks. Almost all teachers have to use their own salary to purchase materials for their class. Many of my friends have setup go fundme. It’s sad
There's no shortage. There was just a crack down on teacher child "relationships" and increase in OF accounts. It's more lucrative to be on OF than to teach.
I applied for the LAPD about 9 years ago and I got disqualified for having no credit now some random dude with bad credit can get hired, this is a load of bs 😡
Yeah, I had a similar experience with the LAPD . . . At the time, they were filling their quota of hiring illegals from south of the border!
It's because now, all the police officers have body cameras. They can not do anything illegal anymore because the officers who sign out for their shift, and the body cameras footages will be examined and evaluated by their supervisors for any misconduct! Technology changed the way people work now.
@@overlord5580 exactly, like 80%+ of them are those guys. And, the sheriff ones are nasty hombres to deal with. La raza lotalty
I applied about 14yrs ago before graduating from college. It was a no go
@@overlord5580 you are full of crap ,unqualified and bitter. Glad you did not make the cut..
The standards are lowered . It's sickening. Not just LAPD, but all over
When the quality of Americans goes down, so do the standards of the country. America is the laughing stock of the world. There's no surprise the standards are dirt low.
Well, you want someone to come or no one at all? City ambassadors and social workers can only do so much.
NYPD did the same thing back in 2020
Correct. Failing physical fitness tests, unprepared for interviews, poor interpersonal skills.
I'm an instructor in the police Academy and the quality of cadets these days is not the same. Easily offended by telling them reality-based stories. They went to the administration to cry over the smallest things. .. and I know the military is going that route too.
I have a friend at the gym who’s worked for a PD for years. I told her I was thinking about becoming a police officer and she said “No, never! You’re too smart!”
Police seem to be independently operated and controlled by whims and opinions of themselves, supervisors, judges, townships, cities, counties, and states! (Police are not educated lawyers and many of them are without high school diplomas!).
The job of a deputy or policeman attracts abusive sociopaths, psychopaths, perverts, and narcissists like drugs are to an addict more than any legal profession!
Police must pay financial damage from their own pockets for unlawful acts against innocent taxpayers or the policing problem can only exacerbate further hate and demise!
QUALIFIED IMMUNITY: "Must be ABOLISHED " ...!
@@turtletruthactually there are more cops with degrees than ever. Definitely with the free tuition paid by the agency and incentives for having a degree.
@@rodhtown Those aren't degrees my friend, those are attendance degrees! I know, I have one too!
@@rodhtown LAPD, Detroit and Boston police applicants are no longer required to have high school diploma's!
Applicants must still pass the oral, written, and agility tests along with 6-months of training and one year of supervised education!
QUALIFIED IMMUNITY: "MUST be ABOLISHED" ...!
@@turtletruth well I know many officers with master degrees ect…
Being a police officer is my dream job, just got my GED. Down 110lbs, starting college soon.
That is awesome. You have the mindset, discipline, determination, dedication to do whatever it takes to be a police officer. Good luck to you. I am in the same boat though I need to lose 80lbs and waiting for a BK to fall off my credit report. I hope you’re going to be that police officer one day.
Good for you
At 34 years old, I applied for LAPD. I finished all of the testing with a 98% overall testing score. A form letter advised me that the city hired based on federal mandates and I would be notified... I called the background investigations office and was advised, off the record that they were going to hire women and minorities long before they would hire a 34 year old white male.
I'll take things that never happened for a thousand...cool story though.
What a waste so sorry
Back in 2011 I applied to the lapd. I was going through the beginning stages of the process and when it came time for the background test they said go ahead and write down any crime or drug you’ve done no matter how long ago just confess to it on paper and it will speed up the polygraph test and make it easier. If you don’t the polygraph machine will pick it up so you might as well write it down. Like an idiot who didn’t know any better I wrote down the three drugs I had tried back in high school which were weed, cocaine, and shrooms with dates . I turned it in and that same day an official took me outside and notified me that I was automatically disqualified for the cocaine even though that was 4 years ago they had a strict policy on cocaine. My heart dropped. They had hired wife beaters, racists, criminals, and murderers but refused to hire me? A kid with a clean record, good credit, drug free and able bodied candidate. I then tried with the sheriffs dept and it was the same crap, same reason. That’s when my dream of becoming a cop working for the narcotics division came to an end. Now look at them, now they’ll hire anybody. Fuck em.
Lol don't believe you at all. The vast majority of LAPD are whyte males. Then Hispanic males 2nd. Then BLK and then AZN. Basically it follows the natural demographics of LA itself.
Based on your statement alone I’d say you are not all there sir.
You CANNOT lower the stander for this profession. Not everyone can or should do this job.
Actually you can when no one wants to join the police. You kinda have no choice. Try running a city with little to no cops. Especially when the community hates police to begin with.
lol actually I disagree the white ppl are the problem and women they shouldn’t be the majority of police officers
If you hadn’t noticed there has been a steep decline in police recruitment so they’re mainly looking for quantity over quality rn
It depends what those "standards" are. Many of these standards are arbitrary. Like the chief said the chances of you running a mile as an officer in the LAPD are zero. They don't want cops to run anyway - they want them figuring out ways to catch someone peacefully and efficiently. They've recognized that cops running to apprehend a criminal makes them more likely to sustain serious bodily injury. Cops should be encircling and cornering dangerous criminals methodically - utilizing the full suite of tools and technology available to them - not chasing them down alleyways. Would you rather have a candidate that is physically fit or smart enough to avoid having to run? They have radios, helicopters, high speed police vehicles, guns, stun guns, etc that removes the need to be a cross country athlete. That doesn't mean physical assessments should be completely taken out - it just means they need to be tweaked and altered to fit the department's evolving methods. Having bad credit before you enter the police force has not shown conclusively that you are more likely to accept bribes. Many people with acceptable credit scores before they became officers accepted bribes. You could make an argument that poor people would not want to risk the only form of financial security they have for a pay out. What is an important factor in determining someone's trustworthiness are in depth psychological evaluations, background checks, and references from unbiased sources. Police departments have been shown to be discriminatory on subjective tests. Written tests are subjective. Multiple choice questions makes it impossible for police departments to be discriminatory because there is only one right answer on multiple choice tests.
@@ent1311 actually no lmao what city are you talking about Chicago Baltimore and Detroit need physically trained cops all that fat shit isn’t it dude and degrees need to be taken out ppl with degrees tend to be fucking retarded in reality
Thats what happens when all the cops quit
they call the National Guard
@fatlu1378 privileged fucks like you always expects others to save you or do things for you voters like you ruined the country
@@fatlu1378lol that be even lower
*AFTER YOU want to HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
Stolen elections have consequences.. democrats=shithole cities
In 2004, I have been disqualified for admitting to stealing candies when I was 14. Never been in trouble. Obtained a 100% on interview and passed all their exams.
Ya. They DQ u. Its a waste of time to apply. They DQ u for a polygraph in the hiring process. Plus 2023 u will pay for the 1990's lapd mistakes .
@@kendalgee5808 Yeah, it’s greatly terrifying where our entire country is heading. Terrifying.
7-8 years ago I applied to a few departments in California, and was denied by all. That was a different time though, when many wanted to be officers. Nowadays it’s the opposite… many people don’t even consider law enforcement as a career. Why would they? It’s a crap show.
From what I’ve been hearing many departments are struggling to find anyone.
Most young people aren't interested in being crapped on all day by the community. It's adjusting to society.
And people are actually follish enough to vote for Gavin new some for President Democratic party is now the party of war they do nothing for us
The high of a power trip is what keeps these guys going now it seems...
@@AlexRamirez-vz1vjits your vote that keeps making this happen Trump2024
funny, but society have to bury the innocent killed by corrupt cops!
Yeah people on the right dont want to join the military or law enforcement because of all the culture Marxism going on, so it’s gonna get worse when people are done engaging in the system
I retired two years earlier than I wanted to (bay area dept), do to the lowering of hiring standards. No-one fails the academy anymore, ridiculous!
Good riddance!
Due to*
Ah, Police Academy has finally become reality. When was the last time an officer ran a mile? Its a health issue.
I saw this happen in Miami in the late 70’s into the 80’s compounded by affirmative action. The results can still felt to this day.
As long as they are protecting my community and livelihood, I support them!
The Chief another on that deserves a seat with the corrupt city council
Standards are loosening because it's too difficult to be anything these days...you get reprimanded for the slightest infraction, this is across the board.
Not true
@@rondas7772very true
@@rondas7772 I mean, George Floyd died of a drug overdose yet the modern myth is he was murdered
if you want higher quality people interested in being police officers maybe they should be allowed to do the job of taking bad guys off the streets instead of prosecuting them every time they do and letting violent career criminals back on the streets over and over again. nobody wants their hard work to be for nothing.
that is not going to change
career criminals, you mean the cops, right??
They dont want to be held accountable.
yeah its part of the defund the police scam. democrats make police worse then they can blame them for the problems DEMOCRATS cause. super good system to get re elected
The higher qualified people are going for careers like the FBI, ICE, or homeland security. All of the high school graduates are becoming patrol cops. LOL.
I don't agree with the financial part. Every person is different you cannot be good with money but have more integrity than someone with an 850-credit score.
LAPD has been doing this for years. A former neighbor of mine was an LAPD patrol officer in both Hollywood and Van Nuys Divisions. After he resigned, he still had some friendships with some of his former LAPD coworkers and an LA County Sheriff Deputy he also knew.
Throughout the 80's, 90's, and 2000's he told me that his friends said over and over again the Affirmative Action thing became worse by the minute and for years.... AND all the while city and county leaders continually created incremental ways to restrict officers in doing their job... AND all of this while the general public becomes more and more woke... AND hating the police right out of the gate. They are hiring people just to show *"WE ARE DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE."*
The vast majority of male officers find every way possible to stay away from feemail officers and civilian staff because even the slightest of incorrect language and or behavior can result in an HR case, lawsuit, and or termination of job regardless of the situation as long as the whamen comes out the victor. They are hiring whamen who are being given multiple chances to pass physical and academic tests only to continue failing over and over again. So they lower the standards. Society is crumbling because we continue to go in directions of no return.
For example on our MTA Los Angeles bus and especially subway and light rail lines... The rumor has gone around for years that officers need to make every possible effort to let certain suspects of a specific racial background... we can't say who because that would be "racial profiling," either go with a warning or to ignore all together out of fear of the situation escalating into a lawsuit, riot, or death. Absolutely nobody is allowed to say or do anything because our city, county, and state leaders continue to push whoake agendas that boggle the mind.
You are an ass clown. Do your homework on Affirmative Action and who it benefits the most before you make a misguided, ignorant statement. You need a History lesson.
@oldfriend227 Columbus, Ohio is the same way. Good luck getting promoted, or even hired if you're a white male.
@@linguisticman So Columbus PD has NO white officers or supervisors? None at all? Another privilege seeker who can't stand a level playing field...
Same in 1988. I had to take 3 oral interviews and score a 97 before I got an academy date. I'm a White male.
Another white guy complaining he can’t tell rape jokes at work because they hire women now.
I’m ready for LAPD AND LASD to step aside and let us normal law abiding citizens deal with these clown criminals ourselves Wild West style
That sounds so good!! but think about it for a second. What if the criminal is your family, you'd let them go. and if someone else "dealt with" your family member or friend you'd go to war with them. Then all of you would have to face justice. Who administers that? That's what used to happen in the "Wild Wild West".
Lol Goodluck
@@MarkelBeverley good
@@arizonaranger527 you didn't think it through that far did you? You said something you thought sounded "Gangsta" You'll be the first to die in the wild Wild West .
Get a CCW and read up on laws. You can always handle your business ''Wild West'' style as long as you know when to use deadly force.
This "Police Chief" is a joke! "When was the last time an Officer had to run a mile and a half?" Probably not very often BUT when is the last time an Officer had to run after a suspect at full sprint and then end up in a physical altercation to take the suspect into custody? Do you think and Officer who can't run a mile and a half in 12 minutes can accomplish that? Ny guess, having had to do it myself, is NO! Of course, the "Chief" can remedy that by forbidding foot pursuits. What a joke!
That's a good point.
It's not about running 1.5 miles. It's about being able to run whatever distance you have to and be able to fight once you get there.
You're right about the Chief. More like "Chef" of police.
1.5 miles in 12 minutes is pretty hard lmao i thought it was 15 minutes
Police used to be out heros, media portraying them as criminals will never help the society. One bad person does not make the entire world hell, the duty of police is to protect, that is a huge weight on anyone’s shoulder. I’m glad I live in a town where we respect police and hold criminals responsible.
This is what happens when you demonize the social groups who historically are drawn to this line of work.
Before I was hired by Glendale PD in 1990, I applied at LAPD and their recruiters put the following list on a white board showing what each gender and race needed to score on oral interview: White male: 95%, Hispanic male: 85%, Black male: 75%, Any female: 70% This was 33 years ago, so it usually gets worse.
Hey, what about asians? Did they have to score 110%?
Facts.
YUP same with the NY State Police
Lol that never happened.
@kylewilliams2510 yes it did and still does example Rafael Perez and David mack from the rampart scandal background tried several times to tell leadership they were bad news but were told to shut up because it was right after Rodney king and they needed blacks
Cheif Moore used bad logic. "Because the prior standards weren't perfect and there were still some bad cops, lowering the standards wont make a difference."
I think your logic is flawed. The logic is "regardless of diversity hiring requirements, the volume of violent crime justifies the demand for more officers,therefore requiring lower requirements in physical fitness." Not...whatever you said.
@@LouDog39 I don't have his exact language down as I didn't want to rewind, I should have put it in "[ ] "instead. I was referring to another part in the video where he said bad apples got through with our past criteria, so lowering them will make little difference. I give no opinion on lowering "standards," I just wanted to comment that he wasn't using good reasoning at that moment.
I bet Gates is spinning in his grave over that simp Moore.
They need to talk next about on why the city lower their standards on having Gascon as the DA of LA. And why do criminals have more rights than law-abiding citizens.
No shit they lowered the standards. Bring a police officer is an absolute joke let alone in LA.
I tried applying one time and I told them the truth about weed smoking and they didn’t want me anymore. Their physical training was so easy it was pathetic. They ended up hiring a guy that eventually got caught smuggling drugs into the jail. That’s what they wanted instead of me who was honest it’s them. That’s what they deserve.
Same here. I said I smoked once in HS… black balled for life. At the time I was training with one of their top guys in the department and he told me I should have lied about everything to get in. He said I thought I knew that.
I mean if someone’s not smart enough to at least lie to get the job why would they hire them?
@@SY-qg6qn Idk ask them that.
I'll take things that didn't happen for 500 alex? You have no idea who they hired or what happened kid.
@@twan5201986no way. I’m sorry that happened. I guess lying to get in , knowing your a righteous person might by the best bet to get in. And the guy said to lie to. Have you tried again?
Long story but absolutely true. This problem began decades ago and has spread like a cancer. In the early 70's I worked for a medium sized agency and decided to apply to the largest department in north - central Texas. I won't name it, but you can figure it out. I had two years experience and some college. This was well above average for an applicant at that time. I passed all the entrance requirements but was turned down. Several days later I received a call at home from a high ranking officer who worked in personnel. He told me confidentially that the reason I was not hired was because the department had accepted Federal money and they were obligated under Federal mandate to hire minorities. In the following 5 years I kept tabs on the hiring process out of curiosity. The department began sending patrol cars to a minorities' house to bring them to personnel if they needed a ride. Next they lowered the requirements concerning past lifestyle history, next they allowed minorities to be hired and trained for six months and only then were they given the entrance exam. If you want to know what's wrong with today's police agencies, this is where it began. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with disparaging a minority applicant, but has everything to do with the level of competence of recruits.
Yeppers, good ole Dallas pd.
What a slap in the face to the senior officers by the chief at the end there. What he means is the new hires are easily manipulated and controlled because they don’t think for themselves and see the corruption at the top. They now believe it’s those “old school dinosaurs” that shouldn’t be on the job anymore that are the problem.
It took me longer to become a Financial Banker than it did for 2 of my friends to become Police Officers here in Los Angeles
Been that way with the LAPD for years. Officers hired before 1980 were considered "true" police, and those hired after 1980 were the beginnings of the lowered standards.
My dad was hired in 1969 and I was hired in 1988 and we were both good LAPD cops. I moved and hired on in the PNW and my dad retired after 25 years. I did 32 years total and retired now. Would hate to start now in this woke day and age.
They should never reduce standards because this brings the worst of the worst officers during a time that we need better officers. 🙏🇺🇸
it is happening in every field
Well when the media demonizes all police officers the good ones (major) quits and you are left with unqualified and lower tier cops.
yeah its part of the defund the police scam. democrats make police worse then they can blame them for the problems DEMOCRATS cause. super good system to get re elected
Well considering that cops are being abused and provoked for a nice settlement check, they have to find a new class of people willing to tolerate that for $48K a year.
Their standards are getting worse because the profession stopped caring about the community. It's hard to get people when they are seeing and understanding what actual policing is.
*Affirmative Action and Direct Hires... probably not the best policy for hiring new recruits.*
So you want to keep it white! This has nothing to do with standards. If it did they’d include police corruption within its ranks. They’d include police brutality as well. Nope they want to keep things lilly white.
At least not for these particular positions!
I’m sure that played a part in mark “ged” furman got hired he was so qualified with his ged and his 3 attempts to graduate from junior college.
80%+ latino
@@NAT-turners-Revenge
Mucho criminal record for you senor...
standards were already low
Yeah for old wealth perhaps through stealing from Natives and using slavery.
Follow the money, that’s all the explanation you need. All for one none for all the money is how things are.
I got denied for drug related issues yet when you tell them the truth about your past they deny you 🙄
Wow
This should surprise absolutely no one.
For anyone that doesn't believe the LAPD has lowered the hiring standards. Current LAPD sworn staff levels are at 9056 officers down from almost 10,000. This last academy class graduated a total of 44 recruits, many of which will not, or should not, pass field training. Next February, approximately 1400 senior officers and supervisors will leave the department due to forced retirements...Do you see a massive problem on the horizon?
Yeppers, tons of mandatory OT on the horizon.
@@flguy6807that ain’t good thing either. Mandatory is a heck of a word
Good
It’s not just the police department. A bunch of government jobs are doing the same. There was a time once when you tried your hardest to pass the tests. Now, even if you don’t pass they’ll grab your hand and walk you through and allow you to work without benefits until you do pass. All this just to fill the positions. Many of the new people don’t qualify but become qualified.
Then again y'all....
I was Disqualified from PD for using Marijuana as a juvinile, Profiting from Sale of narcotics (Friend sold $10 with of weed and gave me $5) as a juvenile, and setting a napkin on fire in the school bathroom as a juvenile.
Key word here, as a JUVENILE! All under 15 years of age, do you think I having served in the United States Army and wanting to dedicate my life to Law Enforcement should be shut down because of mistakes I made as a child?
The LAPD here is clearly giving people like me the opportunity to be better, to right our childhood wrongs, to be lawmen.
If you are a law enforcement officer now in a strict law enforcement agency, you are either a saint or a liar because we all know that you didn't make it being honest on that background.
There's reasons standards get lowered. A lot of people don't realize how difficult the process is to become a police officer. Factor in you have very few people who want to become police in this day and age.
If you have 100 people who want to join an academy and only 50 spots available, you don't have much to choose from. If you have 1000 people trying to join their are better options to choose from.
It's become a take what you can get and hope they work out.
BE SAFE!
Baltimore is losing 200 a year and only new recruits at 100 a year. In 10 years they will have 1000 less on staff
@grantechsweng5268 That's wild! The police department in Oakland, CA, is a little over 700 officers. Oakland has over 430,000 people. The police department should be staffed at over 1400.
BE SAFE!
The chief is a politician. Not a police officer.
They absolutely skimp on the psychological part of the interview process. They have for years.
I personally know of at least 3 people that should never have passed the psych test but did somehow
@erewrewrewr you can't get "stuck" on it, if you fail the psych part you're blacklisted. They must be a super psycho to fail it.
They lowered the standards for women and minorities. All first responder jobs have done that for years. A less qualified female or minority will be hired before other more qualified candidates.
1) I still think being able to run a 1.5 miles in 12 minutes is relevant. I think in general police should be able to match a firefighter’s physical fitness requirements and maintain a certain level of physical fitness.
2) Bad credit shouldn’t keep you from getting a job. I agree with the chief on this one. They had these requirements before and cops were and still are stealing left and right.
3) Written exams I think are important. As a civil servant you need to be able to properly communicate to the public. Writing is a good indictator of that.
1.5 miles in 12 mins kinda though. Although it would be nice if all officers can do that, but I think like 1 mile in 9 mins is more reasonable.
You people are idiots the oft doesn’t matter look at all the fat cops amazing psych testing for all these bullies
Bad credit speaks to your ability to run your life.
1.5 miles in 12 mins is very tough. Not every fit person is built like a soccer player. I consider myself to be fit, but I’ve primarily lifted weights my entire life so I’m a “big” 225 pound dude. No way I’m running more than half a mile without getting winded. So technically I wouldn’t “qualify” yet I have a better/stronger physique than the average applicant. humble Brag.
@@briantbmoth6472 I see you have never bought a home, paid for college on your own and or help your wife and kids with their education. And if you don't have any of that, that's one thing. But if you do, well you know why people have bad credit.
Them: “let’s defund the police.”
Also them: “the police are lowering their standards, shame on them.”
The hiring of gypsy cops is another nationwide problem brought on by the low number of applicants.
In the 90's, I went through the process with several agencies, two of them flat-out told me my packet was signed and ready to go, but because I was white, I was denied (affirmative action). Now, nearing retirement with an outstanding agency that I am blessed to have worked for, I look back and think how unfair it was to be declined because I was white.
just imagine to be black and being not able to get a place to live, because you are not white enough???
Hrmmm.... Imagine living through.. the founding of the country all the way to about 1980 where being not white made u lose job opportunities. Cry me a river.
At least now days a black man and a white man have a decent chance of being turned down because of their skin color. I call that fair
Welcome to my world being a nonwhite mix race with a foreign ass name.
L.A.P.D. changed n lowered standards around the early to mid 90's...A 30 year vet I knew said " Young Officers giving there hood gang signs back to gang members" so from then on.....
Cool story...but I'll take things that never actually happened for 100.
@@BPD1586 Well it did, Garden Grove PD and Baldwin Park both told me the same thing. I am happy and blessed to be where I ended up it's on you for not believing it. Affirmative action was real and wrong!!
Ah... Sounds like Detroit Police Department as well.
The problem is that no one wants to be a cop anymore that these departments will take anyone that applies with a pulse.
So, I'm still curious exactly what standards were lowered other than the physical ability test and credit/financial background.
This is nothing new! I was LAPD in the 90’s and I heard that back in the 80’s the dept hired clean gang members which meant people were know gang members but did not have criminal records. They would go into the military and then go into LAPD. Once hired by the dept they would relay information on drug busts, LAPD tactical plans, deployment plans etc. none of this surprises me at all. I’m so glad I left policing 20 years ago. It’s been ruined by so many things and it just gets worse. No wonder why there is such a huge disconnect from the police and the community. They create it and then the politics involved too have destroyed policing as well. Glad I left CA too!
It’s not just the LAPD doing this though. This is happening everywhere.
Back in the early 90's when I was studying criminal law, the professor (retired police chief) asked for a show of hands as to who wanted to use their degree for law enforcement. He pointed to the minority students (black, brown, latino, women) and said you'll be fine and you'll get hired for sure. The rest of us were told it wouldn't matter how good you were, they will always get hired before you. Thank God for the "equality" of affirmative action.
If racists in positions of power didn't discriminate people based on race to begin with affirmative action wouldn't have been necessary. Sucks doesn't it. Somehow though if you are qualified and great at your job people will always assume you only got hired because you were black. But when we are kept out because of our race we are told we must not be qualified. Can't win with racism.
Funny I’m a Veteran and I applied for LAPD getting to the literally towards the last step in October of 2022 of the stupid process which was a psychological interview and I didn’t make it. Honestly I think it’s the opposite and that they are not hiring for for shit. Cause if what this video says is the case then I should’ve been hired right?
I too got all the way to the end but failed the psych interview. Their psych is fucking Joke and that’s a huge reason why they are always so short staffed. They loose so many good candidates that way.
What does the psych interview consist of?
@@rjchard2877 lots of weird shit. First you fill out a written psych test that consists of about 1,200 questions. You then have a an interview right after background investigation is finished and they ask follow up questions and will also come up with questions of their own to ask.
Just recruit from other cities.Get them fresh from the military or colleges.
LOL. yeah they really know the details not just theory. LOL
sure, hire dumb people... that makes sense!
some cant think for themselves and the others dont know what an order is!
I will be there to deter them
@@enlightened1310 Until you need the police
Standards have been lowered NATION WIDE! Every industry has lowered the standard to meet demand.
What the hell is it matter anyway? They’re not gonna arrest anybody.
You don’t have to be in shape to just watch people do crimes like they do in LA.
Its happening in the medical industry also. Very scarry.
Problem is not cops it is a DA Gascon
I don’t think they need “high standards” Is not like they’re going to arrest a nice person with common sense 😂 those criminals don’t need the best treatment like it was customer service
They have been lowering standards since 1992. Used to be a great department.
They lowered standards long before then. It started when affirmative action became law.
Cities in the north did the same thing with firefighters. They lowered testing requirements so that blacks could "compete" for jobs and promotions. Public schools and colleges do it, too.
It's definitely unfair to say that you can't trust somebody who has money problems especially someone who's trying to work for a law enforcement that already shows a form of integrity that individual is not going out into the streets to rob people to make ends meet joining the police force shows integrity
I fully agree!
Becoming a police officer should require more than just a HS Diploma!
Absolutely not
Yeah a PHD! 😂
The dumbest people I ever worked for had a college degree. No common sense, minds made up before listening to another view. Cost the company so much money on useless projects, the company went out of business.
Personally I think the opposite. I cant think of any reason why a college degree should be required. That goes for most jobs in general, there are plenty of jobs out there that only require a degree because recruiters are too lazy to sort through applications and use degrees to artificially lower the hiring pool.
@@bluewolf5895 think about how much money the tax payers have paid in lawsuits because of officers violating people’s rights!? Or not knowing the law?
I knew this guy who applied to several different law enforcement agencies in LA County and would never get selected. After the summer riots during the pandemic he got a call from the LAPD and was basically handed the job.
I read into this over 35 years ago. Earned an associates in CJ, elite level athlete, 3.5 GPA, but upon my job searches, I could no longer ignore the big white elephant in the room: a dislike of my skin color. Spending half a decade while working full time with a family to support was such a travesty to myself. I’ll never let that one go, and it forges my outlook today.
Rofl if you weren't getting hired 35 years ago it wasn't because you were white. It's because there are huge red flags you aren't sharing with us. Also even today in 85% of the country there is absolutely no question that white people have an ADVANTAGE in the hiring process. Try getting a police job in many small Midwestern or southern police departments as a minority - it's not possible. In medium sized police departments in the south and midwest you aren't getting hired unless you can prove to them first that you are willing to be an uncle ruckus.
Same thing here, they skipped me and hired affirmative action candidates. Over time, just like Rafael Perez, this policy will return to bite them in the ass; once they lower those standards like they have being "woke" these candidates will just bring mayhem and chaos with them into the police force and discredit themselves and the idiots who hired them; serves them right! You actually did better for yourself by skipping police work altogether when reverse discrimination is this prevalent! Me thinks just watch the city destabilize itself like San Francisco did when our governor was there trying out his libtard policies. I hope you found better employment after all!
What? Taking away the police budget means lower quality standards who couldve predicted that if only people were warned this would happen
Chief Michael Moore was abducted when changes happened. I was deployed. Notice no one cuts corners of professional conduct to grand servrice to public when i suit up. In or out of uniform I the female will correct you. I passed 2020 highest score and lowest time. I move when i move
What do you expect when politicians want to defund and diversify.
Lowering standards and are overfunded aswell smh
The chief says they hire qualified minority candidates. He did not say the police department hires the best qualified candidates regardless of race.
duh. companies do this too.
@eldebtor6973 Colleges, medical schools, honors classes, governments, they all accept students and workers according to race and not competency. Some competency is part of the decision. Both parties support the practice, as Whites benefit greatly, taking opportunities from Asians.
learn to speak english before you comment on here
@@asianamericanadvice6016 we took the opportunity to stop the genocidal fascist japanese empire. chinese and koreans were too incompetent.
I hate to tell you this, but they have been doing this for years. I was hired in 1990. The standards are much different now. Take it for what it’s worth.
They had to lower the standard because there's nobody left with higher standards in the USA, 2023.
they fired the best they get the worst.
Every police department needs to look onto there hiring process and training. Way too many cops out there violating peoples rights and cops act like they have never heard of the Constitution
Define way too many
Liberal Big cities are the open air concentration camps
@FierceZs1 honestly, for me is one too many. But with people recording everywhere, it's showing all of us that cops don't know or don't care about the Constitution.
And yes, I do believe there are a number of good cops. I have great respect for them.
It sure looks to me the good ones are outnumbered by the bad one. Go after the bad ones and protect the good ones
@@jerryd1109 We had 60 million police interactions last year alone, if the bad outnumbers the good then by defintion there was over 30 million bad police interactions, yes?
@@FierceZs1 Are you stupid or what?
Lapd is a joke and our mayor is even a bigger joke
The standards had to be lowered as no one wants to be anywhere near LA
Honestly its a reason they lowered their standard, anybody in they right mind wont do that job for 40k lmafo.
Besides being one of the worst agencies it’s still the hardest to get into.
Only if you're a WMA.
@@thebronzetoo true
Lol this is not even true. I have a clean very clean background including my credit and I passed all phases to get in LAPD and they STILL disqualified me at the very very end which makes me question of what it can mean
Same thing here, they skipped me and hired affirmative action candidates. Over time, just like Rafael Perez, this policy will return to bite them in the ass; once they lower those standards like they have being "woke" these candidates will just bring mayhem and chaos with them into the police force and discredit themselves and the idiots who hired them; serves them right! You actually did better for yourself by skipping police work altogether when reverse discrimination is this prevalent! Me thinks just watch the city destabilize itself like San Francisco did when our governor was there trying out his libtard policies. I hope you found better employment after all!
Any idea why?
They need someone who is willing to not always do “what’s right”
I take it you might be a white male?
Many years ago, before I was born, Joe Explained very clearly why the department had very stringent physical and mental standards. This episode stuck with me for many years. He was explaining it to a potential Latino applicant who came in under the height and weigh limits. The applicant stated that it would be no problem because he knew some kind of martial arts. Joe told him there in lies the problem. Your physical presence has to be has to be such that it is intimidating to a suspect but reassuring to a victim.
You know what is more reassuring then any giant person? A gun. Also a police helicopter overhead, two cops, a person who speaks intelligently, and any number of things. Silly arbitrary rules need to be discarded.
600 hours to be a cop 1600 hours to be a hairdresser do the math 🙄
It’s not just California it’s the whole goddamn United States
They did the same thing in fire departments across the country in order to get women to pass the physical tests.
5:04 it’s f disgusting how they’re so worried about diversity and stead of keep the city clean and having the right police officers on the street I truly would not want a trans person to come and save me. I’m sorry.
Blame yourself for making idiat comment!
Here in Illinois, Gov.Pritzker just signed a bill so illegal immigrants can be police officers…..I’m getting out before it’s too late.
Florida is hiring.
We need to fund the explorer program and start them from very early.
Gee I wonder why they lowered standards? Maybe it's because of how we treat police and how much we've stigmatized the job?
I used to live in LA for years before I retired and left California for good. My son was well on his way to being hired by LAPD in 2008 until he went to take the lie detector test and literally from the point that he was hooked up to the polygraph the test administrator started giving him crap and accusing him of cheating and finally told him he was done and that he had to sign a paper saying he’d been cheating before he would let him leave. I have since talked to other people about my son’s experience and they also mentioned that they had experienced the same thing when they’d applied for the department or had a friend or relative who,had experienced this kind of harassment. The reason he wasn’t hired was because he is white and they wanted to hire women and minorities to keep their social justice advocates happy. Fortunately he was hired shortly after that by a much larger agency.
Interesting. After things didn't pan out with LAPD, I attempted LASD a couple years later (late 90's after their hiring freeze was over), and failed the polygraph. The administrator of the test was a jerk with me, and yet I was still called in to meet with my background investigator who became belligerent with me regarding my polygraph results. It was bizarre! I now know that polygraphs are garbage. I honestly wonder if my "calibration" question is what caused all the problems. The guy had me "lie" about my age. I happened to take the test just after my birthday, and it takes me a little bit of time to get used to not being the previous age anymore. I thought it was a terrible "lie" to use as a basis for a polygraph. Regardless of whether I resonated with my change in age, I think asking me to lie about something I know isn't a lie isn't really a lie, if that makes sense. He could have had me answer "yes" to, "did you kill Abraham Lincoln," and I bet it would have had a similar result.
Anyway, your comment has me wondering if there was something else going on. I applied with a few other guys who happened to be white and none of us got very far. Who knows.
@@SuperJ213 It’s all about hiring the correct minority groups, nothing about public safety and hiring qualified recruits.
Same thing here, they skipped me and hired affirmative action candidates. Over time, just like Rafael Perez, this policy will return to bite them in the ass; once they lower those standards like they have being "woke" these candidates will just bring mayhem and chaos with them into the police force and discredit themselves and the idiots who hired them; serves them right! You actually did better for yourself by skipping police work altogether when reverse discrimination is this prevalent! Me thinks just watch the city destabilize itself like San Francisco did when our governor was there trying out his libtard policies. I hope you found better employment after all!
If they cannot get an adequate number of candidates that they want, they will absolutely "adjust" the standards for hiring, Academy and firing. It's just inevitable. This will absolutely result in Officers of lower quality overall.
5:27 the chief needs to be fired. He’s more worried about diversity and having all the wrong people and letting unqualified people get hired. No it’s not OK.
Diversity? Like 70%+ of them are of the, how shall I say? South of the border heritage
Probably “lowering standards “ because it’s hard to find people who are willing to fight the bullshit that has been created.
Who wants to risk their life for shit pay?